Dialectics of the Gods: Deleuze, Hillman, Jung, Schelling, and Hegel

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Grant Maxwell is the author of Integration and Difference: Constructing a Mythical Dialectic, A book which confronts the perennial problem of opposition in philosophy with respect to the notions of integration and difference. This is a robust work which covers many figures in Philosophy from Hegel to William James to Isabel Stegners. In this discussion we delve into the sections of the book that specifically concern the relationship between Deleuze and American archetypal psychologist James Hillman and the work of F.W.J. Schelling.
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  • @nlothervoicessc4286
    @nlothervoicessc4286 Жыл бұрын

    Y’all have the best podcast around. Craig, thank you so much for sharing your dream and interpretation, I admire your vulnerability. Love you guys, seriously.

  • @jero4059
    @jero4059 Жыл бұрын

    The Acid team is getting better and better every season. I can notice the seriousness and gravitas in their chat. Less homiliy and more good questions. Thank you for interesting thoughts. Horizon ascends!

  • @paulgartner1753
    @paulgartner1753 Жыл бұрын

    Im begging for an Episode on Tiqqun and/or Hölderlin

  • @richidpraah
    @richidpraah Жыл бұрын

    Finally some worthwhile figures on this thing!

  • @blablabla63923
    @blablabla63923 Жыл бұрын

    This was damn good. I’m currently a few chapters in on Grant’s book - which is fascinating - so this was excellent timing. Liked the bit about how in depth psychology there is a movement from an original projection of ego on to others to a later, more nuanced withdrawal of the ego, letting the other be Other. It’s a tough dialectic - wanting to construct packs of resonant enunciation but also allowing pack members to have a sort of momentary unique own-ness.. I would also recommend Stenger and Prigogine’s Order out of Chaos, which is a damning critique of static Newtonian dynamics and the Western tradition from Greek atomism onward in favor of recent findings in diversification and instability via dissipative structures and probabilistic processes - it’s just beautifully written, high style, polemical but playful, and it has this continuous chorus of intellectual voices via block quotes, similar to Grant’s book. -Anyway thanks for this and, yes, I think a follow-up part two convo is in order ;)

  • @yabyum108
    @yabyum108 Жыл бұрын

    Richard Tarnas' book The Passion of the Western Mind is, as you say, excellent.

  • @ageofbumfires5216
    @ageofbumfires5216 Жыл бұрын

    Really digging this episode, very, very interesting and clear. 49:30 hate to be the "that's just the path of Buddhism" guy, but that's just the path of Buddhism. Selective watering of store conciousness seeds. Personally (emphasis personally), I always wonder why I keep getting sucked back in and consuming hundreds of pages and hours of philosophy only to rediscover Buddhism hiding there in plain sight, when I could just for once seriously practice the 8 fold path and be alive and present for every precious moment and stop searching for some more sophisticated, correct answer. No one knows where the pinnacle was or if it can be, I'm very much tired of chasing something I may already have or be under simply a different name.

  • @thenowchurch6419

    @thenowchurch6419

    Жыл бұрын

    Most modern philosophers of the West were re-inventing/discovering the insights of the Buddha. They tended not to have a method of meditation and enlightenment though which Buddha did.

  • @clumsydad7158
    @clumsydad715810 ай бұрын

    really cool talk and enjoyed the authors background and the conflux of thinkers wrestling for reality and the interpretation of the unconscious, which we've still yet just barely been able to resolve, but i do like the dynamic perspective here and the necessity of humans to be humans and that they have to enact and act out aspects of the psyche, whichever shade or color of humanity they are prodded to elicit. how we interpret ourselves is still heavily shaded by our materialistic and often times paternalistic thinking, but in continuing to dig deeper we align ourselves better with our natures and that of other life on earth, which hopefully will let us sustain and survive, for we have no other true home in the solar system and possibly not even galaxy.

  • @peeingcaddis
    @peeingcaddis Жыл бұрын

    Fantastic podcast, thx

  • @AcidHorizon

    @AcidHorizon

    Жыл бұрын

    Glad you enjoyed it!

  • @kimfreeborn
    @kimfreeborn Жыл бұрын

    Hillman "“A mistake in my attacks on the hero has been to locate this archetypal figure within our secular history after the gods had all been banished. When the gods have fled or were declared dead, the hero serves only the secular ego. The force that prompts action, kills dragons, and leads progress becomes the Western ‘strong ego’ - capitalist entrepreneur, colonial ruler, property developer, a tough guy with heroic ambitions on the road to success.” Jung "The archetype is ‘that which is believed always, everywhere, and by everybody,’ and if it is not recognized consciously, then it appears from behind in its ‘wrathful’ form, as the dark ‘son of chaos,’ the evil-doer, as Antichrist instead of Savior-a fact which is all too clearly demonstrated by contemporary history.”

  • @clumsydad7158

    @clumsydad7158

    10 ай бұрын

    a hero is like a god, a mythic element, an aspect of the psyche. society will be stable and sustainable when we realize that every person, every 'job' is important, a link in the chain, each part of life on earth a miracle and realization ... the immanence that is all around, unavoidable, essential.

  • @tsenotanev
    @tsenotanevАй бұрын

    i find it really strange that the rather sensible opinion that deleuze is overflowing with manure is so underrepresented ...

  • @hast3033
    @hast3033 Жыл бұрын

    This book seems interesting, too bad its too expensive like all other routeledge published books 🙃

  • @benjaminfranklin7263
    @benjaminfranklin7263 Жыл бұрын

    The artist is not dead, apparently.

  • @terencewinters2154
    @terencewinters2154 Жыл бұрын

    God's? You are too free with the adjective.

  • @Jersey-towncrier
    @Jersey-towncrier10 ай бұрын

    You know I started listening to this and got a little ways in and then I heard you trashing Dr. Jordan Peterson and I was a little disgusted to say the least. I have been studying. Carl Jung for over 10 years and I can assure you that he understands Dr. Jung very well. I have watched his videos and read mostly all of Jung's literature, so I don't need anyone to tell me that Peterson doesn't understand him. You're just angry that a psychiatrist and psychologist of the first order has gone on the national stage and humiliated the entire profession of psychology even while exposing academia. I know you wish to do away with the concept of gender so terribly that you're even willing to throw a true hero like Peterson under the bus to get yourself some attention, but you really need to do better than that.

  • @darkness_before_dawn-kp9rx

    @darkness_before_dawn-kp9rx

    10 ай бұрын

    You should read more critiques of Peterson. This podcast episode tries to reconcile Jung's work with that of critical theory scholars such as Deleuze & Guattari. Accordingly, their reading of Jung is from a psychoanalytical, continental and critical philosophy background. Your treatment of gender as the supreme object of political and intellectual fetish is indicative of your own lack of understanding regarding the grander meaning of critical theorists. Peterson himself is a psychologist (and a very conventional one in particular), which would make his humiliation of psychology more of a self-own rather than any substantive critique of critical theory or psychoanalysis. I assume your response (if there is any) will be the typical drivel which Peterson manufactures of "Postmodern Neo-Marxism". Try to understand and critique the distinction between these three terms: Marxism, Modernism, and Post-Modernism. These three intellectual traditions, particularly Marxism and Post-Modernism, are radically different in their substance and goals (try to point out where Marx talks about gender distinctions). Good day to you.

  • @Garrett1240

    @Garrett1240

    10 ай бұрын

    lol, surely a bot wrote this.

  • @Jesse-fk3xc

    @Jesse-fk3xc

    9 ай бұрын

    he says a lot of people felt they needed to reject Jung at the time because of his association with Peterson who is a right wing masogynist lol I had to tune out after that one

  • @Lmaoh5150

    @Lmaoh5150

    5 ай бұрын

    Lmaoo

  • @A.H.A.B

    @A.H.A.B

    3 ай бұрын

    ​@@Jesse-fk3xclol, peterson, "right wing". Or maybe that's just his target audience as an influencer seeking to influence identity, worldview, and lifestyle. He's made a ton of money with this public image. Indeed he has influenced the youth during these tumultuous times.

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