Forgot to mention that the PS2 version also has full mouse and keyboard support.

@ghost085

8 жыл бұрын

Really? And how well does it play?

@killer1one1

8 жыл бұрын

I can confirm, it plays SUPER well with mouse and keyboard. Granted, the framerate is all over the goddamn place, but it's definitely playable. You can rebind the keys too, and adjust mouse sensitivity if I remember correctly...

@corndogonastick5349

4 жыл бұрын

OldsXCool I’m glad they bothered to put that in, but it begs the question. Why not just play it on pc lmao?

@charlescampuz5812

4 жыл бұрын

CorndogOnaStick Shitty PC? Keep in mind, the ps2 port was made not long after the original release. Getting the game up and running on a conventional family PC from the late 90s might’ve been a tad too much for most hardware.

@NickBailuc

4 жыл бұрын

so did the dreamcast. along with a developer console

What was revealed recently about the Dreamcast port was that it was meant to be released on TWO discs, with the second containing multiplayer and another single player campaign (possibly opposing forces), but that second disc has yet to materialize.

@viewtifulvash6068

8 жыл бұрын

Dammit, Larry. I see you everywhere! Lol ;)

@Larry

7 жыл бұрын

***** But its on the first disc.

@joeyl853

6 жыл бұрын

Nick D I actually played on DC and PC. The DC version had an official Dreamcast mouse and keyboard sold separately. I think their was also cross play if I'm not mistaking.

@winlover37

6 жыл бұрын

Larry Bundy Jr Really? That's pretty cool. Do you have a source that I can look at? Never heard of this.

@UnboxedtvNet

6 жыл бұрын

I wonder if the multiplayer would have incorporated the Modem

Last levels are missing. Feels like a Valve product indeed.

@bergonath8851

8 жыл бұрын

Sick burn, bro.

@ut2k4wikichici

8 жыл бұрын

i raged then i remembered ive been waiting 10+ years for black mesa and 8 years+ for Half Life 3/ep3 FUCK

@laze_amvs424

8 жыл бұрын

lol

@liblope

8 жыл бұрын

it's a joke genius....

@haruhisuzumiya6650

8 жыл бұрын

and the "on a rail" levels is Cut from the game, had to mod it. T-T

14:47 You predicted Half-Life VR years before the announcement.

@mysteriousbob

4 жыл бұрын

Its been known that Valve were working on a Half-Life VR project for years now, the only surprise was that they finally formally announced it.

@Dev-nr4dw

4 жыл бұрын

@@mysteriousbob Not in 2016 when this was made.

@ShadyPaperclips

3 жыл бұрын

@@Dev-nr4dw they probably already knew about it and were just teasing everyone. Alanah Pearce also did this years before the announcement, but everyone thought she was just joking.

@Harkness78

3 жыл бұрын

@@Dev-nr4dw Yeah dude, everyone knew Valve had a major internal VR FPS in development since the Vive and the Oculus hit the marketplace, and that it was Half Life related.

@Amadeus_Eisenberg

2 жыл бұрын

Everyone: "If they make a new Half-Life game, the internet is going to blow up!" Half-Life Alyx releases: ......nobody cares I didn't even know it existed for a while. Not even a spark was heard. And I still don't see anyone talking about it much. I think the little geniuses at Valve have finally managed to sedate the crazy Half-Life fanbase completely 👏🏻

These Retros are fantastic from the first one and from episode by episode they are just getting better. Very impressive stuff DF, thanks.

@sugarhieroglyph

8 жыл бұрын

I second this.

@AlphaZeroX96

6 жыл бұрын

Not really in my opinion.

Half-Life for PS2 has also another great feature: quick save.

@dark1x

8 жыл бұрын

Ah, I totally forgot to include the bit about saving. Yes, the quick save is fantastic and saving to memory card works well too...but the DC version is terrible for saving. The save file grows as you progress through the level eventually exceeding the size of a VMU. It resets with each new main level. There is at least a password system, though.

@andrewz4515

6 ай бұрын

​@thegamereviewandreallifech1910 iirc the game on Dreamcast had a memory leak issue. Another reason as to why it never came out and prob why it had a password system.

Not gonna lie, loved playing Half-Life 1 on the PlayStation 2. Specially when i played it co-op with my best friend and siblings.

These retro segments are excellent!

@Krisztian5HUN

8 жыл бұрын

the best

@JamesOutLoud

8 жыл бұрын

agreed!

I once left my Quake II CD in while playing Half-Life. The tram sequence worked just fine, and all of the Half-Life audio was present because I had run the installer and whatnot, but as soon as the next map loaded upon getting off the tram... Quake II music started blaring out of my laptop's speakers.

@scoundrel8440

2 жыл бұрын

That's why you don't play games while another game's CD is still inserted into your PC. Especially when that game uses the CD to play music.

maybe it is time to do oblivion now whith the psp version leaked.

@jacobroming4768

8 жыл бұрын

Also, nice big rigs over the road racing referense!

@crowg7823

8 жыл бұрын

PsP version for Oblivion?

@icipher6730

8 жыл бұрын

PsP version for Oblivion.

@spartin149

8 жыл бұрын

Source? I don't believe this

@icipher6730

8 жыл бұрын

hari 365 Sorry, do I look like your personal Google searcher? Even the ISO of Travels beta has been around for two goddamn months already.

Great episode

This is amazing, you have no idea how much i enjoy these DF Retro videos. Keep them coming.

Can't wait till the Half Life 2 port comparisons. You had PC, the original XBox (Remarkable that it ran on 64MB of RAM) , XBox 360 and PS3.

@someone-wi4xl

8 жыл бұрын

very remarkable

@bucket9486

8 жыл бұрын

I'm so hyped for the next episode, it's not even funny.

@BOLPutube

8 жыл бұрын

+Bucketninja Never gonna happen though.

@Polygonien

8 жыл бұрын

don't forget the port to Android/Nvidia Shield

@IMDRanged

8 жыл бұрын

Also that free Steam graphical upgrade released last year.

3 years passed, the xen level is still in development.

@sadstormtrooper

4 жыл бұрын

Not anymore

I love the work on these videos, such a seemingly dull topic made interesting. Please keep it up.

Please keep doing these! As someone who loves history and tech, these are great!

listening to the magnificent soundtrack of Half Life brings me back to my childhood, Great video!

John, I hope you are always the one to make these videos. I love these!

I'm not sure if you guys will see this, but these retro videos are amazing, I really enjoy taking a look back into really old tech and the games that were made at the time (and ported). I'd love to see more frequent uploads of this Retro series but I'm sure you have your hands full.

great work on these retro stuff. very informative.

Within my first 5 minutes of playing half life, it instantly became one of my favorite games of all time. The pc version was my first, but don't pass up the ps2 version if you come across it. What a great port!

@Amadeus_Eisenberg

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah, PS2, my go to system for Half-Life!

back when games look better on release than in alpha

Epic video! Really enjoyed it. Looking forward to future episodes.

DF is one of my favorite KZread channels. Thanks guys!

They need to get back making games

@mapacortes2117

8 жыл бұрын

They are :D remenber Source2 its almost finished so expect to see Valve announcing a game "soon"(in a few years)

@someone-wi4xl

8 жыл бұрын

they are working on games , they simply don't talk about them until they are finished (they don't want to make the same mistakes they did previously), they didn't make source 2 engine for fun

@KayX291

7 жыл бұрын

So far they've made Source 2 just for DOTA2 and CS:GO and that's it.

@pira707

7 жыл бұрын

KayKay91 there's no point in creating an entire new engine with possibly new and improved physics just for an old game. I don't think valve will do full on conversions either...

@marcellofunhouse1234

5 жыл бұрын

they did it;s a shitty dead dota 2 card game glad it;s dead

I do have a strong suspicion that the Dreamcast game would load a lot faster if it was a final game on GD-ROM, also I suppose you could cheat and use an SD card (some people made an adapter) I think the pirated SOF (on CD) used to have a lot worse load times than the GD-ROM SOF; in any case the PS2 version clearly also has better framerate, which could also be improved on the DC for a final release, but I wouldn't expect it to be better... regarding the PC; the current Half Life on steam seems to run with forced AA and AF, it lacks support for Direct3D and software mode like the original CD had, also the audio is lower quality than the CD release (low bitrate MP3), I remember once testing half life with a Pentium 133 in software mode, and it was surprisingly playable (like at least 10FPS), but it looked... interesting at 320x200 or whatever the res was, but this was just a quick run on starting levels, when I tested Hl1 on my Pentium II 400 in OGL and GLide mode (with a voodoo 2 and also voodoo 4 4500) it sill had significant slowdowns on big areas (limited a lot ore by the CPU side) to bellow 30 (but a lot faster than the Dreamcast footage here)

@ToothpickMan11

3 жыл бұрын

The Dreamcast version has significantly shorter load times with a GDEMU, while I wouldn't recommend getting one just for that it does make it more playable.

@brpadington

2 жыл бұрын

Dream cast is kinda hit or miss with CD media. Some burns run and load well and others don't.

@megakarlachofficial

Жыл бұрын

actually, the Steam version of the soundtrack are higher quality (with some of them exceed 200kbps bitrate) than original Retail (WON) release, this wasn't the case before around 2013 (SteamPipe), which most of the audio sounds very low quality on the pre-SteamPipe version. And for the D3D Renderer (and EAX/A3D Audio), they existed before SteamPipe also killed it.

Another interesting video for the Retro series, keep it up John! Looking forward to seeing to see what you revisit next.

Love these Retro videos DF, Thanks.

Why did this video seem like a creepy pasta?

@GMCecil4

8 жыл бұрын

I think the Half-life music in the back ground is why, it's very creepy but good music.

@Michformer

8 жыл бұрын

The remix of the Black Mesa theme at 11:14 still sends bone-chilling shivers down my spine whenever I listen to it.

@JavedAlam24

8 жыл бұрын

It's the half-life music. Lol creepy 'pasta'. I'm stealing that.

@fieldofsenses

8 жыл бұрын

eh it happens, but if you know HL very well just like i do, you will instantly recognize the soundtrack.

@nate567987

3 жыл бұрын

plus Big rigs over the road raceing

Steam: "Recommended to you: Super Noah's Ark 3D" Next DF Retro video confirmed.

@scoundrel8440

2 жыл бұрын

Super 3D Noah's Ark*

Great video, love these DF Retro features.

Lovely article and video John, love this series, please keep them up, my favorite youtube channel atm and probably favorite series too.

I played through it on Dreamcast just because. It was fascinating and alot of fun

@dragonwake

6 жыл бұрын

referral madness I'm not sure. The controls we're weird. Abxy move and the joystick looks.

@retroboy-fh1ji

6 жыл бұрын

Daniel Stanford like MDK 2?

@mrratchet

5 жыл бұрын

referral madness - I know it's 9 months late but yes, the DC version has full DC keyboard and mouse support.

1:10 WTF? Playing Quake with a "stick"?

@CyberKiller

3 жыл бұрын

Oh yeah, in the 90's joysticks were a common controller for PCs and other computers. I played Doom 2 on a joystick too, though it wasn't a too great experience, but compared to playing on a keyboard only, it was mostly the same (yes, it took years for the idea of mouse looking to make circles in the gaming community). The PC had the best joysticks too, analog control was awesome (Amigas and older machines had digital sticks) and each button could be assigned a different function not like on other computers where all 10 buttons would be the same (sic!).

I am really enjoying these DF Retro videos. Looking forward to future episodes

Great video. My first exposure to HL was the excellent PS2 port. I've replayed it so many times!

do you guys agree with the favourable words about HL: Source? People ripped it apart for being buggy as I recall?

@dark1x

8 жыл бұрын

I've seen a few remarks suggesting that and I remember issues back in the day, but after playing through a large chunk of it for this video, it played very well. There are some minor scripting changes and things work slightly differently but it seems solid.

@tomaspostorivo

8 жыл бұрын

+John Linneman hey man, I have a question, what is the name of the song that appear in game analysis? for example it appeared in need for speed most wanted wii u vs ps3 vs xbpx 360

@dark1x

8 жыл бұрын

Could you like me? The slow motion videos just use our in-house DF music (which was made for the site). The FPS comparison one just uses the in-game sound from MW.

@tomaspostorivo

8 жыл бұрын

+John Linneman obviously, so I wouldnt be able to download that song

@tomaspostorivo

8 жыл бұрын

+John Linneman please, try age of empires II in DF retro, I love that game, that is why I bought the hd version

Its incredible how bad the early ps2 games looked. Now compare this to RE4, GT4, Tekken 5, God of war 2, FF12, Killzone etc.

Half life was one of the first games I ran on my new computer in 1998. It was a 333Mhz K6-2, with an 8mb diamond fire GL paired with an 8mb monster2 voodo2 card and 32 mb of system ram. It ran amazing!

I spent the whole day watching DF videos...so worth it!

Lost it at the big rigs reference

Remember when Valve made games? And I don't mean the "stealing small dev teams and their games like EA" games (like TF2, Portal, and Dota 2).

@JackStillAlive

8 жыл бұрын

Those were good times. Sadly they are making too much money on 400€ skins :(

@wordsshackles441

8 жыл бұрын

That's the way of the future ; more money in an ever smaller amount of hands, fueled by an anthropomorphic mass of illiterates.

@walkingDaLine100

8 жыл бұрын

Well, soon enough we got source 2 and it's matching games coming out

@xenotone3284

8 жыл бұрын

You'd rather they just churned out sequels like other studios, rather than vastly improving the whole industry and helping bring proper VR to the masses?

@kodemasterx

8 жыл бұрын

what about CS??? also another MOD

Great work, really love this series!

DF Retro huh, kinda sounds like Retro Ahoy. :P

@renegeeder

8 жыл бұрын

***** That's true, I didn't mean it negative though, I love these kind of videos.

@dark1x

8 жыл бұрын

His videos are incredible. Retro Ahoy is definitely an inspiration for me. I just wish I had the silky smooth voice going on. So good!

I wonder if HL2 episode will also feature the Nvidia Shield port.

@miknoian

8 жыл бұрын

I hope so. I ended up buying a Shield Portable just for that. Too bad the port ran like garbage, with drops into 15 fps during some of the larger areas and fights.

I love these DF Retro videos! I hope you do a DF Retro comparing all the different versions of Counter-Strike (i.e. all the original mod versions, retail release, console versions, etc.) sometime in the future.

Keep these retro videos coming, they're great. :D

this brings me back to your Daytona USA episode. that game was launched in 1993 and those graphics simply destroys quake and even HL1.

@retroboy-fh1ji

6 жыл бұрын

Magnum Daytona USA was way ahead of its time. The first time i see the game i think that was a DC/PS2 game.

@retroboy-fh1ji

6 жыл бұрын

Magnum Also the DC port of Half-Life​ looks like mid end N64 graphics (Turok 3 comes to my mind).

@BrySkye

6 жыл бұрын

Sure they do, but each Model 2 arcade board also cost about $15,000 in 1993 money. Jurassic Park also came out in 93 and stands as an example of the bleeding edge for the time. Getting the graphics was one thing, making them affordable for mass production and home use was another all together. The benefit for Sega, being *so* far ahead of their time, was that those arcade machines not only stunned people initially, but were good enough to provide a definitive experience for many years, completely outclassing the entire 5th gen console cycle.

What happen SEGA? Where's your Blast Processing?

@Krisztian5HUN

8 жыл бұрын

in the Sega MegaDrive

@NorthsideChamps16

8 жыл бұрын

Blast Processing was a marketing gimmick for the Genesis/MegaDrive. not the Dreamcast

@Garbagehead5

8 жыл бұрын

That version was never released, and its poor performance was more of the developer's fault, not SEGA.

@mikealpha8779

8 жыл бұрын

blast processing was a real thing actually ..incredibly

@Relugus

8 жыл бұрын

The Megadrive had a much faster processor than the SNES, as proven by slowdown being common in SNES games while being almost unheard of in Megadrive games.

This was a great little retrospective. Looking forward to the HL2 one.

Amazing content as always. Nothing comes close on KZread to your retro videos. Also thanks for making us wait through those load times in real time?

They should re release all the valve games on PS4 would be awesome. The super orange box

@dark1x

8 жыл бұрын

This is an idea I could get behind (but they will never do that) :(

@Edmundostudios

8 жыл бұрын

+John Linneman something like Rare Replay but valve. I would definitely buy it :D

@FightCain

8 жыл бұрын

I still have that Orange box in my 360 lol.

@Edmundostudios

8 жыл бұрын

+EliteDeltaTeam so do I

@JCOdrjones

8 жыл бұрын

Pffffffft, no. That sounds silly.

That ''you're winner'' cameo tho.

I really like those retro videos! Please keep making them! I actually played the PS2 version of HL some years back. It's not too bad. Except for the weird targeting system but those were common on console shooters at the time.

Another awesome video, guys.. you rock!

i like half life ..

@someone-wi4xl

8 жыл бұрын

same here

@Pyrashusband

6 жыл бұрын

WJG Indonesia don't we all?

a face for radio

@jzilla1234

8 жыл бұрын

only joking

@12coco100

8 жыл бұрын

you still said it

@jzilla1234

8 жыл бұрын

yes i did

I love these videos, dude. Keep it up!

Retro reviews +1 thumbs up guys good work as always!

Half life is a timeless clasic ^_^

"You're winner" Nice meme

Love the retro treats keep them coming DF 👍

Great vid..I played the demo as a kid and not the full till a few years ago and they felt so different...never knew why

You guys need to do Doom next. The console ports were very different apparently.

the first one is the best by far

Best episode so far, great work. :) Chronicles of Riddick: Escape from Butcher Bay / Dark Athena would be nice to see presented some day. It's an interesting case of a console --> PC port and the expansion/sequel which also came out on several different platforms.

Subscribed! Congratulations for the very good video!

These framerate issues are exactly why i'll always be a pc gamer, i mean the ps2 version of HL will always run the same, no matter what, but with a pc, performance and graphics can be improved in the future, always. Like i can play disohonored 1 in 4K without buying the game again for a newer console, and having to deal with bad framerate, like in all "remasters" nowadays.

@dffggddffhjvh8039

5 жыл бұрын

stfu

@dffggddffhjvh8039

5 жыл бұрын

there are no fps in remasters nowadays so stfu

If the PS2 Version runs at 512*448 and the DC runs at 640*480, does that mean if we divide the two resolutions, 229376/307200, the PS2 is running at .75% of the resolution of the DC? Does that also mean the PS2 is doing 25% less work than the DC to output graphics to the screen? Someone with more technical knowledge please explain.

played tons of HL myself since mid '99. this is a very well made video. liked subscribed AND faved !

Your videos are awesome, just discovered it.

Wow, he's complaining about AMD CPUs back then, even though back then, AMD actually made better CPUs than Intel

@dark1x

8 жыл бұрын

I'm talking purely from nostalgia there (just a fun anecdote). I built my first PC with an AMD K6 233 and was crushed by how much faster my buddies machine was running Quake engine games using a Pentium 200mmx. Both of us had Voodoo 1 cards at the time. Some of the later Athlon CPUs were really damn good, though.

@Pan_Z

8 жыл бұрын

John Linneman Should probably repharse that. AMD and Intel kept trading for fastest CPU as each new CPU generation released. AMD would release their new CPUs, they would be fast. Intel would release their CPUs a few months later, and they would be faster. When the Athlon 64 hit, AMD was clearly faster. Intel could only manage a paperweight launch and had to bribe PC manufacturers not to use AMD CPUs.

@CMSonYT

8 жыл бұрын

wasn't it the P4 that made AMD > intel?

You were right at the end about a follow-up version in VR :D

I love this series, please continue to make more episodes!

Can't wait for future episodes and DF: Retro Hardware.

That was great. I remember playing co op with a friend on ps2. It was really fun! I cant wait to see what you have to say about half life 2 on xbox original. That was the way I played it. Never played it on PC!!!

The music was a bit distracting (too creepy or maybe just cause it's loud) but otherwise great video! Love the fact you do both the latest & greatest as well as the retro games.

Please make more of these retro videos, they are awesome. I love the technical detail in them, as a 50 year gamer I remember them all. What about some Amiga classics like Xenon, Ruff n' Tumble, but to name just two out the dozens if not hundreds of great games. Commodore 64 and the 8 bit Atari had many excellent games.

Great video! Can't wait for the HL2 one!

1998: Ocarina, MGS and Half-Life. What a year.

fabulous again DF thank you!!

The nerdy part of me love these videos. Wish they were available when I was younger.

Gr8 video.Keep on the good work.

I freaking love DF Retro episodes.

Great feature, keep em coming John

Thanks for the quality content :) subbed

It’s worth noting that the Dreamcast models and texture were what ended up getting used in the Steam release of Half-Life due to hardware of that release being vastly superior.

Thanks for another great video!

These are so much fun to watch.

Very nice video. Looking forward to the HL2 one ;)

DF has aged the shit out of John. This video is only 5 years old, but he looks like a baby here.

DF Retro rising and shining!

Thanks for this revisited title...played it 18 years ago !

Great video and great series

i love the reviews on this channel :)

Idk but I always find DF Retro really interesting. It's fun looking back at older games and seeing the various ports. You've piqued my interest with the brief glimpse at Soldier of Fortune on the DC too. :P

love those retrooooooo series!!!! thank you! :)

DF retro are the best. Seen it since before you announced it at eurogamer and its become better and much better on each episode.Keep up the goodwork,john.

Sehr interessant, ja bitte mehr DF Retro es ist immer sehr Detailliert und informativ :) weiter so würdet ihr vielleicht auch eine analyse zu der Metal Gear serie machen? Ich denke das würde auch einige interessieren ;)

Love the retro videos! MORE PLEASE! Also how did you record footage from the PS2 and Dreamcast?