Fine fine fine, we'll post a video of just the M12 w/ the XC6.0 as well guys. Hold tight. Edit: here she is: kzread.info/dash/bejne/fYB3rLqoqrDUado.html

@MoonsOfEmpire

3 жыл бұрын

Aye show us the goods!

@TheCamaro5

3 жыл бұрын

yeah i wanted to see the difference from the 2.0 to the 6.0. I have both batteries and can tell a big difference. I wonder how that m18 stubby would do with a hd battery.

@2koolforyou88

3 жыл бұрын

I was just about to say lol I run my milwaukee stubby with a 6.0

@dylanbrdn7996

3 жыл бұрын

Have you seen the relatively new m12 impact ratchet? would be fun to see how it holds up to the stubby with various batteries

@Cannibal440

3 жыл бұрын

@@dylanbrdn7996 I don't believe there is such a thing as an impact ratchet. There are several M12 ratchets and the relatively new right angle impact wrench(probably what you are thinking of) but it does not ratchet. I have one BTW and it is very handy. Can't wait for the torque test.

Congrats to Dewalt on their new compact impact wrench! Im invested in the m12 line so I wont switch for one tool but I am glad for competition in the 12V space to make everyone put out a better tool.

@greatbay1961

3 жыл бұрын

he says m12 comfortable in hand but I can say total opposite dewalt ergonomics and battery switching by far superior to m12. great to hold once for a few seconds but work with them all day and come back and tell me how comfortable they are

@scottcoleman7304

3 жыл бұрын

@@greatbay1961 dewalt is infinitely better in hand. Way better ergonomics than Milwaukee. The forward and reverse buttons on Milwaukee are garbage too. I cannot stand holding a Milwaukee in my hand all day

@legendarypillow1450

2 жыл бұрын

It’s good to see the hero dethroned

@LanceD188

2 жыл бұрын

@@greatbay1961 I hate the m12 battery switching, it is frustrating and sometimes feels stuck. I really like my Milwaukee M12 tools but it would be irritating if I had to work in a professional environment all day with them.

@josh33025

2 жыл бұрын

I'm the other way I have mostly dewalt stuff but I decided to invest in just the m12 line because milwaukee makes some automotive tools that dewalt doesn't.

I'm a Red tool fan. I dont mind seeing dewalt take the checkered flag. Im not going switch brands cause one is 10% more powerful but as others have mentioned itll keep all brands striving to put out the most powerful tool. Thats something i do like. 👍

@krikorpapazian2437

2 жыл бұрын

& diwalts gives better results with 6.0 battery!! I guess he should know about it 😏

I used kzread.infoUgkx4ynqaujg7rZKFapA8s29kTpRszJGa3-K this for the first time today to replace the front wheel bearing on my rwd 98 dodge dakota. This had absolutely no issue removing or reinstalling the lug nuts and it took off the axle nut without any struggle. Sounds like it's got some muscle to it. Time will tell

This is the best Friday morning break time treat. You guys do some great testing. Thanks for putting together another great test. I'm no Dewalt fan but it's great to see them getting represented here. Looking forward to more great videos guys, keep crushing!

Just got out of work. I’ve been anticipating this tool for a while. Thank you for your testing! Subscribed!

You forgot to mention how cute the Milwaukee is... it is the cutest of ALL tools. Another thank you to Jordan.... a guy I wish was my neighbor.!

@monono954

2 жыл бұрын

The Bosch takes the cake in cuteness.

@jivdis1x

2 жыл бұрын

cuteness is in the dewalt 12v battery

I like what you did on the air hammer video. Setting the timer to 8 seconds and wait until 5 seconds before starting. I understand that was a necessity, but it should be your standard through all testing now!

Love my M12 1/2" impact! I can pull both front wheels, calipers, and caliper brackets on my truck and reassemble and still have 50% or better battery left on a 4Ah or 6Ah battery. This weekend drove 70 1/4"x5" lag screws into landscape timbers on a single charge with a 6Ah battery. Fits right in with the other Milwaukees I own.

Thank you for the review, the DeWalt DCF901 will be a day one purchase once available in my region and should complement my DCF899 nicely.

Great video!! Regardless of brand I am continually amazed at the power available in modern lithium battery tools.

I was not expecting this result. Good vid!

I just stumbled across your channel now and i love the format. Super informative and easy to follow, you definitely earned a subscription from me. One video I’d love to see is a comparison between the m18 fuel impact driver and the m12 fuel impact driver. As an electrician by trade an impact driver is a staple of my tool kit. I’ve been using m18 for a while now but my coworkers seem to love their m12 saying it can do everything the m18 does with less weight. I’d love to see a side by side between the 12 and 18 like you did in this vid👌🏼 but either way keep the awesome content coming 🤘🏼✌🏼

I'm a superintendent, I do tile, drywall, framing, ect. I use the m12. Folks give me grief but when I pass em up with my little tool that can hang from my pocket they usually end up switching to the red side. For the size, mobility,, and just over all great feeling in your hand, the m12 is hard to beat. Great content, I am now subscribed

It's about time DeWalt came out swinging against Milwaukee. Pretty impressive and that form factor w/5Ah battery is pretty desirable.

@vanceplace1349

3 жыл бұрын

I’ll put my flex volt tools up against Milwaukee any day of the week

I finally bought the new DCF901. I was hesitant because it did not have the 3 mode selection switch like it's little brother, the 902, and the M12 Stubby. But, it doesn't need it. The variable speed trigger provides sufficient control over speed and torque when spinning off nuts, like lugs. You simply let off from full trigger pull when the nut breaks loose and it slows quickly and will not fling the nut. Same with installing. You simply let off when the nut bottoms out. The trigger allows low speed use for avoiding crossed threads. The smaller 902 is a better tool for all around use to remove and install smaller hardware and with the mode switch, precise use to avoid breaking hardware and stripping threads. And, with a 3/8" square to 1/4 hex, and it's mode switch, the 902 is good for a wood screw impact driver around the house and for working on a motorcycle. The 5ah on the 902 gives it at least 20% more power, enough for car and light truck lugs torqued to 100ft lbs or less. I rotated all 4 tires on my car with it yesterday and it was a pleasure. The 901 was just faster. Together, they make perfect set of impacts for almost every nut and bolt on a motorcycles, passenger cars and light trucks, and all but the big hardware on full size trucks.

Man I'm starting to binge these videos haha, keep up the great work! As a auto tech the M12 stubby with 6.0 is my go to. I swear it has enough kick for 90% of work.

@FAMOUSSLICKRICK

2 жыл бұрын

Yes sir, I totally agree with you. In a real world M12 Stubby is a proven and amazing little work beast.’ 😎

@l00nybin

2 жыл бұрын

3/8" or 1/2" version?

@elihamou6902

2 жыл бұрын

@@l00nybin I have the 1/2". My HD 1/2" sockets make the most of the stubby, takes off 90% of lugnuts I work with

@FAMOUSSLICKRICK

2 жыл бұрын

I have the 1/2 drive too. Awesome little strong impact.

Would be cool for the DCF894 and DCF899 to be compared to the new DCF901 and DCF903

Just bought the DeWalt as I'm already heavily invested in their 12v, 20v, & 60v platforms...hoping to pick it up tomorrow from the store and start playing with it 👍 thanks for all your videos!

@stitchthisditchthat259

2 жыл бұрын

How’re you liking it?

@ABH313

2 жыл бұрын

@@stitchthisditchthat259 I'm loving it! Probably my favorite impact wrench 👍

This is awesome guys keep up the good work

Having used the milwaukee, I'm %100 sure that %10 difference could be made up with a 6.0 AH battery.

@RexxDIY

3 жыл бұрын

Agree 100%

@idoit4urmom

3 жыл бұрын

The 6.0 makes a considerable real world power increase on the m12 stubby without a doubt

@jimmymac601

3 жыл бұрын

No it won’t. It could last up to 50% longer but unless the electronics are completely different it will not.

@idoit4urmom

3 жыл бұрын

@@jimmymac601 I have been using the m12 stubby daily for over 2 years, using a 6.0ah removes bolts that it won't budge with a 4.0ah "real world results not just opinion"

@jimmymac601

3 жыл бұрын

@@idoit4urmom sure it does chief. Sure it does.

Beautiful job as always 🙏🏼

U should do a test that shows batteries when there are low on power to see how much power they actually lose

@neilhansen3025

3 жыл бұрын

Lithium battery power is not like NiCad batteries. It delivers the same power output until its no longer capable then it will abruptly stop.

@AutodromoF1

2 жыл бұрын

@@neilhansen3025 this is not true, at least on dewalt 12v models. The tools definitely start slowing down.

Glad to see Dewalt finally get a win against Milwaukee in these tests. I have pretty much all the Dewalt 20 volt tools and just recently bought a couple of the 12 volt. Really like the way the 12 volts feel and they have enough power handle all but the toughest jobs.

@nocandopdx

Жыл бұрын

I agree with the 12v DeWalt feeling much better, they really thought it through with how they designed the batteries in terms of the charger compatibility which at the same time allowed them to slim down the grips on the 12v tools with the added convenience of being able to set down the drill and drivers and not have them tip over even with the smallest battery packs. I hate using the small M12 batteries for that reason alone, I have half a dozen of them laying around that I never really use because anything you put them on becomes top heavy. Thing is I only have two 12v DeWalt tools because, well, there's not much to choose from and I really thought DeWalt abandoned that line of tools so I was planning on of getting rid of them because I have seven M12 tools and figured I can get an 8th, but with the recent come back DeWalt is making, I'm going to see if they might offer some more specialty tools before I pull the plug.

Hey, I have this bumblebee but MAC branded. I dident actually know the torque but I've been using it to blast lug nuts and anything else half inch. She's a hell of alot lighter than my old snappy, cordless, 1/2, and even lighter than my air 1/2 gun. Honestly this baby has been good to me so far.

Wow this was really great for dewalt rlly happy they stepped it up even if it 10% I own the m12 stubby and others already bought them but rlly good to know their decent alternatives now 12v for people that already have dewalt

I'm a Milwaukee guy but don't bear any malice toward any other tool brand. The DeWalt is impressive. I was blown away when the M12 stubbies were released. I own all 3. I'm not a fan of slide packs, but I have big hands. One little addressed factor, which is a big one for me is how many tools you can fit into your bag, cart or box. The larger bases on slide pack tools is EXTREMELY limiting in the this department. But then, Dewalt doesn't have that many 12v tools, so......... well.... they need to get busy on new tools. there are over 100 tools in the M12 line. THAT was why I chose Milwaukee after my Dewalt cordless tools were stolen. Both brands make excellent tools. The release of the M18 stubbies was a big nothing burger to me. I suppose for those who only want one battery, which is a valid point, it kind of makes sense. But not really. The ratchets are already M12. That said, it's awesome to see DeWalt get one up on Milwaukee. Real competition means more, better tools will be in the pipe soon from all the major brands. Well done DeWalt.

Great video review my brothers. I have that same Milwaukee 2555-20 Impact Stubby and I love it. Mine is very strong for me. I was on the fence about buying a Dewalt Impact Wrench, because there torque numbers were way off from what always state they are. Very weak for me and really deceiving. I guess it’s like a lot of other companies deceiving there customers with false torque numbers in the power tool companies. I was very impressed by this Dewalt Impact even though both impacts didn’t meet the manufacturer torque claims. I love your channel for being fair and balanced in seeking the truth about really torque claims. 🇺🇸😎🇺🇸😎🇺🇸

Thanks for this test!

I do not think either is a bad choice. To me what makes either a solid choice is what other tools you already have. If you have more batteries that are compatible it makes more sense to stick with one of these over another just for that convenience since they are both great at what they are intended to do. They have reasonable power for tight spaces. If more power is needed there are tools that excel in those areas sure but they usually fail to fit in a tight spot and using extensions costs us power and causes more fatigue as we use these tools. Thank you for a well made video. I love this channel.

@DiligentDave1966

Жыл бұрын

The only thing is that the Dewalt is less expensive than the Milwaukee.

Well that was underwhelming. I've been running the m12 stubby with all the sizes of batteries including the 6.0 and that tool just can't brake a % of the bolts loos that where not torque anywhere near the 250ftlb spec. I do use it every day and you couldn't pry it out of my hand at this point. The Dewalt 12v only putting up 10% more is not good. The m12 has been out for years and Dewalt had all this time and the best they could do is put a big # on the box and 10% more than m12 not impressed. Thanks torque test Channel for getting the video out so quickly. Great job as always!

Impressive showing from the DeWalt, I can't deny that they have some decent tools. I just can't give up the wider selection of tools Milwaukee has. My ratchet saves so much time.

@ianjay4596

3 жыл бұрын

Dewalt will be coming out with these as well. Kobalt has a 24v ratchet

@andrewk8636

3 жыл бұрын

Yep I'm invested in dewalt 20v and 60v but am on the verge of investing in Milwaukee m12 platform for the ratchet. I tool on my own cars often so it'd come in handy

@ianjay4596

3 жыл бұрын

@@andrewk8636 I'd go dewalt 12v if I was you. Same charger as the 20v and the lil 3/8 impact is a beast for brake jobs. They are also ganna come out with a ratchet and right angle impact I heard. And the new 3/8 and 1/2 inch oil and corrosion resistant 12v impacts with 400 ft pounds are dropping very soon. Like a week or 2 soon in stores

@nordicpride9708

Жыл бұрын

@@ianjay4596 The Dewalt ratchet is too bulky vs the Milwaukee

I am a auto mechanic. And have the Milwaukee 3/8 stubby you tested here. It does have some balls for how small it is. I use it everyday and it surprises me on some bolts it will break loose. If it won't break em loose I bust out my ridgid high torque 1500 foot pounds you guys also tested recently. Haven't had a bolt yet that it won't loosen. Or break off lol. Great videos!

@TorqueTestChannel

2 жыл бұрын

Hey thanks Brandon, that Ridgid is hard to beat!

Best channel on KZread. I’ll keep my Milwaukee m12 stubby for that difference

@miguelledezma1394

3 жыл бұрын

The dewalt is cheaper and better. Aimed for dewalt fans

I am glad to see this.. I never got the M12 series because the grips are way to thick and not comfortable. I bought into the DeWalt 12 volt extreme lineup and never looked back. This impact is cool.

@aaronporter2180

3 жыл бұрын

Same I can't stand the torpedo style batteries

I'm a DeWalt guy, I have two impacts a 999 drill and some older one, plus the big 60 volt circular saw and the cheap sawzall. And I use these things professionally. With that being said I'm more impressed with the power they are getting out of that little Milwaukee because that thing is really compact. I think if I were ever doing a 12 volt kit I would probably go Milwaukee at this point.

Love my aircat and m12 . M12 is just easy to grab and use . But thanks and can't wait to see the flex. I need a full size 1/2 better then my mid torque rigid

I wonder if the extended anvil impacts suffer from the same torque loss as a regular impact does with a similar sized extension

Is there a website with all the results? That would be amazing!

I feel like Dewalt finally stepped it up

@kiradelong9698

3 жыл бұрын

I just bought one just waiting to get the 5ah battery but with the 3 ah batteries I have it’s doing great. It’s way better then both my 3/8 dewalt impacts and is smaller, not gonna lie and say it’s a monster but it takes lugs off on trucks with little effort. I have done probably 10 brake jobs so far and it has removed every caliber mounting bracket and suspension parts which is impressive since I live in Michigan one of worst salt states. It’s worth the $110 price tag honestly and the battery’s are still cheaper then Milwaukee’s 2ah I paid $69 bucks for the 5ah if you buy a 2 pack it’s just over $110 bucks.

@natesmodelreveiwsetc.9626

3 жыл бұрын

@@Lee-lb9qh wait is it bugger than the dcf899

@Rproject1295

2 жыл бұрын

@@kiradelong9698 you may pay more for the Milwaukee batteries but they outlasts the battery charge way longer that dewals and Milwaukee tools are build for torture not just heavy duty work but tortured once before my cordless drill was totally sumerge in water and left out for the rainy day and just let it dry and was working the next day like nothing same when dropped from 2 stories home and working amazing Milwaukee is the toyota or honda a of the tools

@Rproject1295

2 жыл бұрын

@@kiradelong9698 you may pay more for the Milwaukee batteries but they outlasts the battery charge way longer that dewals and Milwaukee tools are build for torture not just heavy duty work but tortured once before my cordless drill was totally sumerge in water and left out for the rainy day and just let it dry and was working the next day like nothing same when dropped from 2 stories home and working amazing Milwaukee is the toyota or honda a of the tools

@kiradelong9698

2 жыл бұрын

@@Rproject1295 no that’s not true dewalt battery’s last a long time if not longer then “red lithium “ make the Same power use nearly identical cells. Yes Milwaukee has great tools, they aren’t hundreds of dollars better especially the battery’s. I own and use both brands daily I love both tools and like certain ones more then others but both absolutely get the job done no problem.

Thx I must of missed this I have u subscribed n notifications on would love to see the Capri stubby in action

I have one of those little M12s and have used it hard for a year now and is still is suprising on level 3.

I look forward to the next video that compares torque between batteries on the M12 platform. It would be cool to see a knockoff battery thrown in the mix, as I'm wondering how aftermarket cells effect the torque performance. There's also a dispute on whether a 1/2" anvil delivers more torque than a 3/8". I'd love to see a video comparing the two, without adaptors.

@Squirrel765

3 жыл бұрын

So with your question of the M12 4.0 vs 6.0, there is no way the 6.0 could perform better than the 4.0 besides runtime. The cells used in the 4.0 are actually better than the cells used in a 6.0. In lithium tech, when you go up in capacity you almost always sacrifice something else (either size, max discharge, or efficiency). This is one of those cases where the Samsung cells used in the 4.0 actually have a higher discharge rate than the cells used in the 6.0. Then there's the discussion with the CPs, and the same thing applies. Tldr: use a XC wherever you can. 3.0CPs suck everywhere. 2.0CP the best CP and 4.0 is the best XC.

@omarm6678

3 жыл бұрын

@@juanc5149 I already watched the real shop tools video. The use of a 3/8 to 1/2 socket adaptor on the 3/8 may be the reason for the increased torque. As socket mass might play a bigger role in torque output than anvil size. Which is why... I'm interested in this test being redone without the use of an adaptor, in order to determine the role anvil size plays on it's own. Also, I really don't care about the marketing backstory that Dewalt or Milwaukee pedals that their impact wrenches are forged with the envy in their competitors success. All I'm wondering is whether the difference in torque is due to the 5.0ah v 4.0ah battery.

@omarm6678

3 жыл бұрын

@@Squirrel765 I initially thought the XC 4.0ah Samsung 20r cells (drains at 44amps total) would outperform the 6.0ah's 30q cells (drains at 30 amps total). But as proven in torque test's new video this isn't the case, the 6.0ah outperforms the 4.0ah initially then they both even out. Likely because the stubby doesn't reach 30amps, and the 6.0ah is able to maintain 12v for longer.

@Squirrel765

3 жыл бұрын

@@omarm6678 Capacity is irrelevant in this test due to the short runs, so it isn't like the 6.0 can provide a higher voltage for longer. Actually, due to the higher discharge rate of the cells used in the 4.0, they theoretically vdroop less. Something else is going on here as to why the 6.0 performs better. Could just be the actual batteries used (older cells are, more they vdroop), or the acceptable error rate between runs. Doesn't really matter in the end though! Actually what he said is completely correct: the tool doesn't use the more amperage the 4.0XC can provide. His tests proved this. :) Anyway an interesting outcome. Would love to see the CP2.0 vs CP3.0 vs XC though!

@cowpker4life333

3 жыл бұрын

@@Squirrel765 with batteries the higher capacity actually will allow the battery to out put more amps and stay at a higher voltage if cells are of same quality will also put less strain on higher ah batteries. The difference you see in power tools with bigger batteries tends to come from the difference in voltage drop between batteries underload a lower ah a bigger voltage drop normally.

Awesome review! Dam that Dewault is not bad but I have the Milwaukee stubby already and love it!...I might fit in that Dewault in the rotation though.

I like slide battery vs pole. The mil plastic memory tabs a bit of a pain

Ima stick with my m12 stubby. I don’t think 10% is enough to make me want to consider the DeWALT.

@ianjay4596

3 жыл бұрын

Better is better

@o1mtbiker

3 жыл бұрын

Either battery platform work well, if you’re already in one or the other it’s best to stick with that same platform. It cost way to much to switch over and start fresh. Me personally the 20v dewalt line works best.

@ianjay4596

3 жыл бұрын

@@o1mtbiker not really. The dewalt 12v line is very easy to get into. Better tools at a cheaper price

@o1mtbiker

3 жыл бұрын

@@ianjay4596 how is reinvesting in a new battery platform cheaper? Besides I don’t think they make anything in the 12v line that’s better then 20v which I’m very deep into already.

@ianjay4596

3 жыл бұрын

@@o1mtbiker you use the same charger and some items like lights, radios and power bank chargers work on both 12v and 20v. Also, the atomic 20v compact 3/8 impact is 150 and only has 100 or 135 ft pounds of torque. The 12v xtreme 3/8 kit is 99with 2x 2.0ah, x5.0ah, charger bag and impact with 200 pounds of torque

I will say this about Milwaukee vs DeWalt. I'm a GM automotive technician. 1 year ago I bought the Milwaukee 1/2" impact, long story short, the both batteries quit within a year. First one quit after 4 months, second one after 10 months. I just sent my batteries out to Milwaukee for warranty, so I'll see how that goes. But in the meantime, my Dewalt 1/2" gun that is about 6 years old, is currently taking the place of my milwaukee, with the original battery, and it still lasts all day long before needing a charge. That same battery, also powers my at home tools (circular saw, screw gun, drill) and that one battery is still going strong. So lately, I have some doubts about Milwaukee.

love the style, tech and narration of your vids. I'm sick & tired of the shouty salesdep hype-sters out there; influenza-rs?

@TorqueTestChannel

3 жыл бұрын

"influenza-rs" haha, using that! I'll be the 1st to admit that my own voice damn near puts me to sleep. But I was the only one of us 3 willing to do voice-over. And i may be bias, but since we watch a lot of tool channels retrospectively I have to agree, the tools and performance is what I'm usually after. Getting shouted at depends on my mood :P Belts and boxes does it best IMO - Torque

@wim0104

3 жыл бұрын

your type of voice is what we all need in the high-anxiety divisive culture we all suffer from

@galvanizedgnome

3 жыл бұрын

Slap that like button ✋ now! Wim with a five dolla holla!

Nice to see the dewalt perform well for those of us trapped in the team yellow sunk cost fallacy.

Excellent, excellent work!

YO..let me find out you make these torque tests too???!!!! Word? You got it man challenge accepted. I'll watch 😁😁✌️

Im excited about this one

While I was hoping the M12 would have done better I'm not surprised at the numbers. It's still a good little tool for what I use it for and bravo to DeWalt for their new tool's performance, may the competition improve the breed!

@drevil5546

3 жыл бұрын

This is also a 6Ah battery vs 4Ah. Milwaukee sells a 6Ah. They need a re-test with matching Ah batteries.

@markk3948

Жыл бұрын

I watch another channel and he put that m12 on a nut torqued to 500 or 550 ft lbs and it removed it

@DennyMK007

Жыл бұрын

@@drevil5546 it’s 5Ah vs 4Ah. If you paid attention you’d know that. Still, I think you have a valid point. Tests should be done with equal Ah batteries as it does make a difference.

I’ve got the M12 at work and it’s a monster. Will pull out head bolts on a 5.7 hemi no problem.

Great video. No where near the 400 ft/lbs as I’m sure we all expected. Will definitely be interesting to see Milwaukee’s M12 Gen2 Stubby which I’m sure is already in the works as a response to the Dewalt, but really how much more power do we need out of a sub compact impact? Can’t wait to see the Flex compared to the M18 High torque.

@kevinragsdale6256

3 жыл бұрын

Idk why we allow companies to lie about specs and get away with it.

@TorqueTestChannel

3 жыл бұрын

Keeps us busy :)

@derekbross6958

3 жыл бұрын

@@TorqueTestChannel Very true. Love the channel. Keep up the good work.

@miguelledezma1394

3 жыл бұрын

Depends on the size of the bolt

I'd like to see some of the cheaper, more common impact drivers tested as a baseline. Like the raggedy m12 non fuel that's been around forever, see what it does as a baseline for how much better the fuel line is etc.

@joes.7536

2 жыл бұрын

Me too because I own all the older ones before they came out with the fuel line. I have some fuel models too. But I never felt that the brushless was that big of a jump. Like 10-15% maybe.

I think Dewalt’s ‘working torque’ is what it can tighten to in forward or reverse and ‘breakaway torque’ is how tight of a bolt it can break free on a sunny day with no rust or corrosion.

Can across Torque Test when they 500 subs. Love this channel!!!! I would like to know how to send impacts in to be tested.

awesome little dewalt the 903 is awesome also

I'm curious to see if the extra amp hour would make a difference.

I have the dewalt 3/8” model (911) and it handles everything I throw at it when it comes to my car. Breaks lugs and driveshaft bolts like glass. Haven’t tried anything over 130ft lbs though.

Honnestly, yeah the dewalt has a couple more ft-lbs of torque. I had multiple dewalt impact wrench and their big problem is that the casing snaps, all this torque and vibration make that clipped plastic casing break, broke 2 of them in under a year, versus the milwaukee M12 that i now had for 2 years and its still going as strong as the first day i bought it. It has a bolted hammer cover, compared to the dewalt. I'd rather avec 20ft-lbs less of torque, but a tool that i can rely on and trust! My 2 cents Also, you need to test it again with a 6.0 battery!

Yes! Bumblebee ftw

@TorqueTestChannel

3 жыл бұрын

Having been so long without DeWalt on the channel, I'm glad it didn't disappoint! - Torque

Remember one of these tools is 2 years old and the other is brand new...similar to comparing the Brad/Framing guns...Milwaukee’s current gen 2 models looks great compared to dewalt a older flywheel stuff but time catches up to everyone

Awesome. Yep I'm sold. Being able to pick up just the M12 bare tool over having to buy a full M18 kit to get the same performance is just the icing on the cake. I would have been very impressed if that new DeWalt crept up around the 300ft-lb mark. That's a lot to ask of a compact 12v tool.

The 2019 12v Xtreme DCF902 came with a sub par 2ah battery. Even 3ah was a bit undersized. The new 5ah makes a significant improvement in the tool's seat of the pants performance. It breaks loose lug nuts in half the time, and performs the same on all 5 lug nuts, where before, the power dropped off enough to not be able to remove all 5. The Man Cave channel tests all the 12V Xtreme tools, and they all perform better. Perhaps Dewalt giving a free 5ah battery with new tool purchase in March-April was their way of making things right? The new DCGLF901 & 903 tools use a larger brushless motor, purportedly the same as a 20v tool. Which one? I'm speculating they used 20v Atomic brushless motor. Eventually, someone will take the tools apart and compare. They'll likely find a combination of incremental improvements that take advantage of the 12v, 5ah battery: A larger motor, larger hammer & spring, and higher amperage motor control circuit, in a slightly larger case. All which, when combined, double the specified torque of the 12v impact tools. Personally, I'm pleased with the improved output the 5ah battery provided my older 902 tool. I needed about 20% more torque from it and it seems to have it early in the curve. The drill and driver are much improved, as proven by Man Cave.

I will be looking for a 3/8 impact soon and I think this DeWalt will be great!

@t.moffett5805

2 жыл бұрын

The 3/8 impact has half the power of the 1/2.

@andybub45

2 жыл бұрын

@@t.moffett5805 I don’t need a 1/2 that small.

@agoogleuser1188

Жыл бұрын

@@t.moffett5805 late as hell but they came out with a 400 rated 3/8s

What kind of bits would you recommend for an impact gun I wanna find a set as of now I just have some Garbo freight Pittsburgh ones they didn’t have any when I bought my impact gun

I just got the 902(3/8) kit with two 2ah and a 5ah battery for $99 from Lowes. I was going to go milwaukee, but for the price I couldn't say no.

@TorqueTestChannel

3 жыл бұрын

That's a good price just for the batteries alone!

@Robreese24

3 жыл бұрын

If you want more batteries, I saw the 2ah 12v batteries at my local lowes on clearance for only $19 a piece!

@SouthwestD313

3 жыл бұрын

@@Robreese24 they didn't have any of those cheap 2ah batteries in when I was there. They had the tag though.

Have you thought of an episode where you try to find the test methods of the manufacturers for their torque numbers? like different lube, different thread pitch, looser or tighter threads, acme thread and try to eliminate the friction between the bolt head and surface using 2 hardened washer and a thrust bearing?

any plans to review the M12 FUEL™ 1/2" Right Angle Impact Wrench

I have 12v compact, and 18v Hi Torque. I'll probably add an 18v hammer drill, but wont bother with the 12v drill (although it would be nice for tight areas, and something to just grab and go, or take home on weekends) Either way, I had the first gen 3/8 12v fuel, and that lasted forever, it still works, just that it's a bit flogged out, and starting to show its age. If I didn't already have the milwaukee batteries, I probably would have gone with DeWalt, I know that they make extremely good tools as well.

Some input. Just bought a DCF903 (3/8" version of this dewalt) and I'm in love. It's performing better than coworkers M12s and absolutely destroys my Snappy 14.4. I haven't really found the battery size to be a hindrance at all, unlike a full size 18v battery. Great weight and balance in hand, better than M12 IMO. My snappy is old, but it's only ever been good for around 100lb/ft since new and the dewalt will easily crack off a fresh half inch bolt torqued to 175lb/ft vs the M12 hanging up around 150lb/ft. Haven't really had to beat on it yet!

The 3/8th m12 is probably my most used power tool. It’s small but powerful. If I need more beans I grab a 1/2 inch impact.

I just got the dewalt 12v great gun love it

Do you plan on testing more Dewalt tools? I would like to see the DCF894B

For the very little difference I love the compactness of the m12 stubby, that's why I got it. If i need power I'll pull out my mid torque, won't need more than that lol

@miguelledezma1394

3 жыл бұрын

The handle sucks tho

I’d be interested to see how the Kobalt 24v impacts compare. The Mid Torque 3/8 and driver both list 150 ft. lbs./1800 in. lbs. (same anvil), but their “high torque” impact lists 650 ft. lbs and the XTR as 1200. These all have a 12 month 100% satisfaction guarantee so if you have a Lowe’s nearby you should be able to buy, test, and return if you so choose.

Those are tools I wanted to see! Have both 12v platforms, I hesitated if it is right to wait for dewalt release. From specs I expected them to be a tie, now I am totally vote for yellow with my money.

@ZeGermanHam

3 жыл бұрын

Milwaukee still has a much better 12v and 18v platform than DeWalt when it comes to automotive tools, though, so take that into consideration.

I recently purchased a Skil brand impact driver, it was pretty cheap, and came with a battery and charger with supposedly 1800 inch pounds, but that like Mulwaukee numbers. Hoping you can test those claims! Would be nice if it was pretty close, 5 year warranty sold me over dewalt

Have you done the DCF902 (same as this but 3/8 Version) vs the Milwaukee M12 3/8 Stubby? The DCF902 is only rated at 200 breakaway vs the 400 of that, so I'm curious how it compares.

Been waiting for one, can you test big brother dewalt high torque 1/2 impact

Good for dewalt. Not an easy feat to battle the red that I will STILL reach for. M12s just fit my hand better. I do kind of wish you would've compared with the 6 ah m12 battery for shits n giggles but regardless, excellent test as always. Well done and cheers chaps!

Will you please do a video on the following: use Waitly, 9ah batteries on the 2904, 998, and XPH14 drill and compare the Torque values on that setup? I think that would level the playing field regarding batteries. I don't have a torque meter, but when I did the above experiment I found that the Makita and Dewalt came in 1st, and the 2904 kept tripping.

Another great video! I have a bosch 1800 freak I'll send you for testing if you are interested.

Looking forward to the Mac version of this dewalt, because they always seem to put just a little more juice in their Mac products than the dewalt.

After running mine every day for a little over a month it's been very good takes off lug nuts easily and even with the annoying wheel locks. I'm on the lube line so we are constantly doing tire rotations and the gun doesn't have problems breaking truck lug nuts I thought it would but it doesn't it does very good, I'll update in another month

Holysh*t, did the king of compact impacts just got beaten?

@aaronporter2180

3 жыл бұрын

Yes and no the dewalt does make more power but it is also bigger so I would call it a wash

@ezrawaters6653

3 жыл бұрын

Also, the M12 would make maybe 5% more power using the XC6.0 vs the XC4.0 battery

@TorqueTestChannel

3 жыл бұрын

@@ezrawaters6653 more run time aint always meaning more peak current flow :P

@ezrawaters6653

3 жыл бұрын

@@TorqueTestChannel very true. I was expecting it to bump power from other videos I’ve seen until I saw your update video. Maybe it’s a placebo from the larger number on the battery

I need to get my hands on one of these DeWalt 12v

I just bought the 12v DeWalt and I’m super happy with it. Has good power considering it’s compact size. Dewalt definitely needs to expand their 12v line of tools, as Milwaukee has just about every tool under the sun in their M12 line.

I'd like to see the 3/8 dewalt tested one day

Would you test the new DeWalt 3/8 against the older 12v Max 3/8?

Not all tools, but most now you only really need the 12 volt versions, at least for Dewalt and Milwaukee. Makita I would stick with the 18 volt but they have compact 18v tools as well.

I saw a video of the m12 with the 6.0 battery bust 450 ft/pound bolts consistently. Seems to run better with that battery and succeed it’s ratings

Please test DCF901 vs 902 with 2ah & 5ah battery. The 902 came with a 2AH battery, which caused severe drop off of torque after a few lug nuts, or less than a minute of use. But, does 5AH on 902 increase peak torque, or just maintain max torque over time? I ask, because many of us bought the 3/8" DCF902 after it was released in 2019, and it would good to know if the new Dewalt 12v Xtreme are worth the cost of upgrade, or if one could simply use cheater bar for the occasional tougher nut the 902 cant crack, with a 5ah battery. One should note that the new Dewalt DCF901 and 903 impacts lack the unique speed and torque control features of it's predacessor, the DCF902.

Have you tested the Kobalt Max 3/8" impact? Not the right angle, but the regular one?

I've been waiting for this

Now Dewalt just needs to release the damn things already

Can we get a supercut of you wiping off every torque number ever with acetone/brake parts cleaner? :V

@TorqueTestChannel

3 жыл бұрын

... how did you know we use brake kleen to remove those!

@mattt4183

3 жыл бұрын

@@TorqueTestChannel As Eric O if you can use his brake cleaner sound for the vid LOL

Hey when will you do the high torque makita? (Xwt8)