I’ve just taken delivery of this model and this video is exactly what I needed to calibrate it as the written instructions from the manufacturer were not best, so thank you very much. Liked and subscribed. 👍

Many thanks, I found this video invaluable for dialling/calibrating the table. The whole thing needed tweaking 0.5 deg and +0.5mm here and there - now its spot on!

@TheWoodgrafter

2 жыл бұрын

Excellent news, Mine cuts really accurately now, I have also added the Incra mitre express and am getting some really impressive results. Cheers Andy

Great info Andy. Thanks for this (and thanks again for the router table plate help!).

@TheWoodgrafter

3 жыл бұрын

Hi, Thank you for the feedback. Andy

For safety reasons, when using the rip fence, it is good practice to ensure that the ripping width is smaller than the other dimension of the workpiece (not doing this can cause the workpiece to fly across the room, a major concern in a professional workshop 😋). The miter gauge should be used to support the workpiece along its largest dimension, and one should ensure that the rip fence doesn't extend behind the axis of the blade (which usually means using a spacer of sorts when using the rip fence as a stop for cross cuts). Regarding dust collection, I'd expect connecting a dust hose to the blade guard dust port would improve things (although there will likely still be some dust coming out), while making things safer as well

@TheWoodgrafter

3 жыл бұрын

Hi Francois, Thank you for the feedback, really good tips. I will put this advice into practice. The feed in on this device is pretty small, so the mitre gauge is limited - A cross cut sled will be introduced very quickly, as will a feed in extension. The cross cut sled will also remove the need for the spacer - so better all round. Yes, I now have. Y connector giving me top and bottom dust extraction, a 1000 times better. Kind Regards Andy

Thanks for the tips!

Great video - ive always found a quick way of setting up these type of gauges, is to make a cut on some scrap wood, measure the cut, and then set the gauge to that measurement - done.

@TheWoodgrafter

3 жыл бұрын

Hi Richard, Yes that makes sense, super simple as well. Cheers Andy

Probably the most comprehensive review I have seen of this machine and I have been looking at them all on youtube. Thank you, it help me make my mind up and place my order last week. Can you put some details regarding the Incra fence looks most interesting? Regards Bernard

@TheWoodgrafter

3 жыл бұрын

Hi Bernard, Glad I could help, I have made a series on the Incra fence - check it out here. kzread.info/head/PL3YiLaPydV_85PKpVxwpQtBZV9xzGJz1U Cheers Andy

Hi Andy, I had the same reaction to the dust collection issue. I did manage to reduce it by using the blade guard and attaching another hose to a Y splitter. It’s still not perfect, but it does reduce the amount of dust above the table. Really informative video from you again. Many Thanks 😉

@TheWoodgrafter

3 жыл бұрын

Hi Mike, I have done the same thing with a Y splitter and connected it to the Festool CT. Works pretty well, I will show that on the next video. Cheers Andy

@mikehewitt6484

3 жыл бұрын

@@TheWoodgrafter cheers Andy, keep up the good work and the great videos 😉

@TheWoodgrafter

3 жыл бұрын

Cheers Mike, Will try my best Andy

@georgebevan9058

3 жыл бұрын

Hi Mike, likewise I had the dust issue with my DWE7492, but you'll find that if you use the blade guard with the secondary dust extraction port, coupled up to your main dust port, or like me two separate sources of dust extraction, you'll significantly reduce the dust over the table. However, as with any table saw, as well as any other type of powered saw, 100% dust collection is a pipe dream, so the only real solution is to have dust extraction from both dust ports & to wear a half decent half face mask, preferable one to FPP3 standard. Keep up the good work with your videos, they're all very informative.

Thanks for you video, I’ve just bought the same saw so perfect info. What make are your digital angle finder (not the trend box)? Tia

Yeah! Almost finished my workbench!

@TheWoodgrafter

3 жыл бұрын

Nice, Can’t wait to see the photo’s Andy

@samrix5793

3 жыл бұрын

@@TheWoodgrafter yeah I'll put them up on the forum!!

Nice video. Would be useful to add a video on the blade guards/knife.

Nice video again Andy. Tempted to upgrade from my Metabo TS 254 M to this one. The Metabo is a decent machine, but I think DeWalt is the only small/jobsite saw maker that actually delivers reliable accuracy. One plus of the Metabo is that it does quite well with dust collection. It has a plastic sheet underneath the blade that prevents the dust coming up (on first powering on the saw it cuts through that, shooting some plastic chips up). Maybe DeWalt can implement it as well.

@TheWoodgrafter

3 жыл бұрын

Hi Michael, It will be interesting to put this through it’s paces on a real project. That should really start to show the pro’s and con’s. That is when you get to know a machine. That will be next weeks video. I am not familiar with the Metabo so can’t comment I’m afraid. Cheers Andy

Great video Andy, for me this is a site saw where I would say the dust extraction isn’t going to be great without a overhead crown guard with extraction. I’m surprised with the sound levels of this machine and also the brake on the blade when you switched it off or was that just me thinking it took more then normal to come to a stop. I’m looking at the flexvolt version of this saw and I’m hoping it will be a little bit quieter. stock level on power tools at the moment is very hit and miss at the moment.

@TheWoodgrafter

3 жыл бұрын

Hi, Yes lots of things seem to be on back order at the moment. I have now rigged up the saw with overhead extraction (the one that came with the table) and used the Festool Y connector to connect to the shop vac. Works pretty well. The blade does stop pretty quickly, not as quick as my Kapex or TS55 but not to bad. Yes noise remains the issue, hopefully a decent cabinet will calm that down. Andy

Does the saw table need to be level when calibrating the saw blade?

Nice video Andy. I’ve ordered mine now from Anglia Tool Centre for £454.80 👍🏻.

@TheWoodgrafter

3 жыл бұрын

I hope you like it, I still haven’t reached that point where I can list the pro’s and cons. I am concerned about the limited feed in, so need to find a way around that. Certainly for safe cross cutting. Dust collection when you put on the top guard is actually pretty good. It is loud! But the fence is good, although would like to have seen a t-track on it for feather boards. Should be a quick modification. But overall, I think it is going to be OK. Cheers Andy

@idlersdream826

3 жыл бұрын

@@TheWoodgrafter I’m pretty sure it’ll be fine for me too. I’ve seen lots of positive reviews and I need something small as I don’t have much space left. I’ll be building a small wheeled cabinet for it with folding outfeed similar to the Eric Sorensen design.

Hi Andy, We also bought one machine two weeks ago and had the same consequences as you. Your test was thoroughly, thank you for that. However one view point was missing, the flatness of the table top. In our case is not even, moreover it has some of 0.2 mm dips in the middle sections between the two guide rail grooves (and it has a not even insert). Using a straight edge on the entire surface light shines through on the spots; and those places are clearly visible under good light conditions too. I don't know how the exact manifacturing of this moulding works, but the simmetrical, manifacture related patterns are visible on the surface which are independent of caring or packing. This and the plate inaccuracy is should be a dealbraker for me for the money, but how we stand now upon the situations in the world (here in Hungary the stocks are low) and there is no suitable competitor in this price range, size, equipment and fence system, so there is no way to blame with it at the shop. Anyway my question is connected to the level of the table top. Do you have any deviation or mark on it. Does it matter at all? I know with larger sheets it won't be a problem but smaller pieces I think it will be wise to use a zero clearance insert or use a sled to make the surface even in detriment of the depth of cut. Should I care about the above or the abrasion and time will even the surface and my feelings about it? I know this is a job site table saw but i have no workshop now, but addicted to woodworking and i live in a flat so have small, temporary space in our living room to work. Thank you in advance for your answer!

@TheWoodgrafter

3 жыл бұрын

Hi Wood DIY I covered this in the final video in the series - I have a completely flat top on mine. Not sure if I am lucky or you are unlucky. I think it would matter for narrow stock that require rip cuts that effectively lie on the side of the valley you describe. As the cut would not be square. As you say, for panels that bridge the dip - I don't think it matters. Andy

Does the fence sit at 90 degrees to the top, I've seen a couple of videos where it was out slightly? Is it easily adjustable if found to be out?

@TheWoodgrafter

3 жыл бұрын

Hi, Yes mine is 90degrees, I can’t see any obvious adjustment. Cheers Andy

@DrunkenKnight71

3 жыл бұрын

@@TheWoodgrafter thanks for the reply

HI. I'm currently looking at buying a table saw. Did you compare saws? I'm wondering if £100 extra for the Axminister might be a better option? I've heard the DeWalt screams really loudly when in use. is that true?

@TheWoodgrafter

3 жыл бұрын

Hi Craig, I did look at the Axminster and it looks like a great product with a great set of options. However the fence seems pretty poor so would need and upgrade. The DeWalt is very loud, very loud! it is running way over 90db in use - and if you are making a cut without the top dust collector then the dust collection is not that good. I wanted a cheap, accurate, portable saw as it only gets used once in a while - most of my cuts are made with the track saw. It works for what I want, however. If I wanted a solution that was used all the time I think I would look elsewhere. Andy

@craigcummings96

3 жыл бұрын

@@TheWoodgrafter cheers for that. ill do some more research. regards craig

Here in North America those portable often called contractor saws aren't regarded as being accurate or great dust collection. Not sure if they were designed to be used in fine work but at least here they're often regarded as a saw for a jobsite and thats it. Meant for ripping down plywood for sub floor maybe some rips for hardwood floor but nothing like joinery. Not to say it can't be done with them but out of the box they're not known to be accurate. I've been on numerous jobs where they'll get a new one delivered on site and the carpenters will open it and start using it no calibration. The dust collection isn't a concern here it seems North America or at least Canada looks at dust a lot lighter than the UK or Europe in general. The saws aren't bad for this it's just the intended use behind them is different than what you're expecting. The work they're often used for is not work that is closely examined enough to see if a mitre joint is 0.3 degree off.

yeah the yellow plate isnt great. i did try to make a zero clearance but when the blade is high the mechanism comes up high and its a pain. i ended up just living with it. i dont think it makes any real difference tho. just like i never miss the dodgy riving knife i removed.

@TheWoodgrafter

3 жыл бұрын

Hi, I have seen a few videos of shop made plates, so may give it a go at some point. I like the riving knife design on this one, but I think the design has been improved over time. Regards Andy

Just bought one of these today, and it went straight back - out of the box, the blade was about 6 mm out of alignment relative to the mitre tracks, and I could only correct it to within about 2 mm. (I was able to make it *more* than 6 mm out though). In addition, the fence was slighlty dented (about 1 mm out of true at one end), and the table was not flat, with a peak near the throat plate giving a corner-corner discrepancy of almost 3 mm. So I'm moderately peed off, with the only bright spot in my day being the no-nonsense Screwfix returns policy. I'm hoping that my problems were one off manufacturing defects since I expect a lot better for the 500 quid I handed over.

@TheWoodgrafter

Жыл бұрын

Ouch that is a shame, it does seem a bit hit and miss with a number of these mid price site saws. They are probable working to a tolerance and you got a bad one, mine was close enough so I could tune it. Thank god for good customer service. Hope you ha be better luck with the next purchase. Have a look at the Axminster range - some interesting gear. Andy

@scollyer.tuition

Жыл бұрын

@@TheWoodgrafter Well, I've now had a second unit, which has also been returned. (The third is awaiting collection at Screwfix 🙂) The second unit had a good motor alignment and fence, but major problems with the table flatness again: about 3 mm deviation across the front edge of the top - I've put up a video here: kzread.info/dash/bejne/npdrzdaGZdjXiNY.html

Taking a decibel reading with the meter in contact with the saw will not give you a true 'airborne' reading (mechanical transmission). Indeed, any measurements outside an anechoic chamber is fraught with difficulty. Best to wear hearing protection regardless. Dust collection- not using the top safety guard/ dust collector will inevitably mean more uncollected dust. I have one of these and a 'proper' table saw- which emits at least as much dust. Mine is an older model- wish the riving knife was as easy to change!

@TheWoodgrafter

3 жыл бұрын

Yes, I will do a proper DB test when I use it anger. I always wear hearing protection with any tools - so agree with that point of view. I have since used this with the top haired and a Y connector. In that configuration the dust collection is pretty good Yes that riving knife change is excellent really pleased with that. Andy

@vichole4737

3 жыл бұрын

@@TheWoodgrafter Enjoying the videos. Can you cover a bit more on dust extraction in your episode 3. I’ve bought one from ffx - love it but the dust extraction is rubbish.

9:06 the device is problably working fine. the table is not necessarily level on both sides

@TheWoodgrafter

3 жыл бұрын

Hi, The table in this particular version of the device is level across the table, however - others have reported that they have a dip in the center of the table. Cheers Andy

@fibiger12

3 жыл бұрын

@@TheWoodgrafter yes my table bend downwards slightly in the middle

@fibiger12

3 жыл бұрын

when i say device i mean the angle finder thingy. a side note. the angle finder has to be 90 degrees from the fence when it sits on the blade.

@TheWoodgrafter

3 жыл бұрын

Ah got it, The table is pretty level on mine - but you have a valid point. The Trend angle finder thingy I have is not the best, in fact I don’t really tend to use it very often. Cheers Andy

That’s a Construction saw Andy, I believe you’ll soon get tired of the imprecision and your workshop being covered in dust (not to mention your lungs). Take a comparative look at a table saw like the AC216TS at Axminster (no affiliations). Best... Paul🙂

@TheWoodgrafter

3 жыл бұрын

Hi Paul, Yes, I walked into this with eyes open. The table cuts pretty accurately now it is tuned, in fact out of the box it worked really well. I have now managed to attach extraction top and bottom, and dust is not that bad. As it will only be used occasionally, I wanted to limit cost and size is a big consideration as I have pretty much maxed out the shop space now. Time will tell if it stays or gets sold on for something else. Cheers Andy

Audio level measurement is incorrect. The SPL quoted will be at a 1m distance from the motor. Also, don't rest the SPL meter on a surface when taking a measurement.

@TheWoodgrafter

Жыл бұрын

Thanks for the tips Geoff, Andy

make sure you wear goggles too as you will get shards spitting in your face. good saw tho i love mine.

@kanedNunable

3 жыл бұрын

i have some blocks behind mine as it does tend to slip about on MDF

@TheWoodgrafter

3 жыл бұрын

Thank you for the tips. Yes I have noticed those hard rubber feet tend to slide. I will probably mount it on a rubber mat inside the cabinet when I build it. Should dampen some noise pollution and stop it moving. Cheers Andy

The YT safety police will have a field day with your table saw practices No push stick and the risk of massive kickback with your first cut. Cutting with a piece longer in width than length. Many will know your a experienced bench hand joiner but even I was surprised for a YT vid.

@TheWoodgrafter

3 жыл бұрын

Hi Chewy, Yes that first cut wasn’t finest moment. However I have quickly realised that the infeed is not that big on this table, so the mitre gauge has limited use. A push stick would have made it worse, and increased the ‘twist’ potential of the board. But yes not my best moment. I think a cross cut sled would be the ticket, and when I build the cabinet a larger lead in area. Both of these I think will be essential to turn this into the machine I need. I also think a ‘gripper’ will be a worth while purchase. Sorry if I distressed you. Andy

@DuncanEdwards.

3 жыл бұрын

@@TheWoodgrafter I wasn't distressed at all but the YT police will be lol. The gripper is nice but something like the push stick made on Fisher's Shop YT channel will be better on a Dewalt. Yes a sled will make life so much better especially if you make one following William Ng model.

This Trend is piece of c...p. Had it in the past and returned as it was so unreliable.

@TheWoodgrafter

3 жыл бұрын

Hi Luke, You are really are dependant on the fit of the 30mm bush and the quality of the bit. Any errors multiply over the width of the board. I invested in a quality bit from Trend and a quality bush from Festool. Cheers Andy

@lukenfoci

3 жыл бұрын

@@TheWoodgrafter Hi, I was refering to inclinometer :). Only bought Trend as my trusted Wixey died after 6 or 7 years of service. Got Trend of Amazon... and sent it back as it was so bad. No two readings were the same.

@TheWoodgrafter

3 жыл бұрын

Sorry wrong video, yes that is a rubbish device. Never had any success with it.