Step 1: Avoid the 5th pick

@Htiy

Ай бұрын

Never

@Chef-David

Ай бұрын

Plan for it!

@gameknotz3602

Ай бұрын

Challenge impossible 😊

@pepegajones6541

Ай бұрын

1-5 ain’t much of a difference, Sarr barely separates himself from the rest of the lottery and the pick might actually be easier to trade if at 3-5 because the salary of the player wont be so high

@gameknotz3602

Ай бұрын

@@pepegajones6541 okay but who’s trading picks in this draft? Unless it’s for a salary dump nobody is trading up. Even so bigger market teams aren’t giving up valuable assets.

Monty needs to be shown the door. Develop and build from there.

Pistons fan here. Suffered through almost every game. This is a really good analysis and agree with the changes that need to happen.

Great video man. You hit on a lot of great points. Especially letting go of Monty.

Thanks for the video about my pistons 👍🏽

Just started watching but I’m already appreciative. Thanks my guy

Yes! Preach! Cade and ivey need to be staggered. They gotta play together too but Ivey is more valueable on ball, but not invaluable off ball. It's the coaching not the players

@scottwickett1273

24 күн бұрын

Trade Ivey before everyone else finds out he sucks.

You raise an interesting argument about the impact of coaching. I actually think it can make a big difference, but it's really hard to quantify. I've heard other fans argue re who would have done a significantly better job with this roster? They're the same ones ready to quit on the young talent like Ivey and duren. I'd be keen to get a strong coach in and give these youngsters one more year in a well balanced system supplemented by decent NBA role players, perhaps a low level star player they may be lucky enough to pick up. Essentially this would finally give us clean data to assess the potential of these youngsters.

Great vid

Nice breakdown!

Don't like Monty Williams as a head coach. I feel he did a very bad job coaching this team. Who would you want as coach for Detroit?

He said he fell off the Troy Weaver train the moment he drafted Killian Hayes?? Damn...that was his first pick 😅

@UtilitySports

Ай бұрын

Yup

@bobbybagseed

29 күн бұрын

Weavers done a great job actually. Signed Grant and flipped him for Jalen Duren. Signed Bogdonovic and flipped for first round Grimes. Got the most coveted coach even though he didn't want him. Still has the most flexibility as any team. Hit on the high draft picks.

@Mrdonjuliothewicked

11 күн бұрын

​@bobbybagseed you are crazy.

@bobbybagseed

11 күн бұрын

@@Mrdonjuliothewicked nah you just don't fucking watch the team every night like we do. Once Bogdonovic got healthy we took Boston to OT, beat Utah when they were good, Beat OKC. Took LAC to the buzzer twice. By that point it was too late. But before last year Pistons were expected to definitely make the play in tournament. Insert Monty Williams and injuries. Which vet was out there that we missed on? over pay Cam Johnson? FOH. Pistons are in a great position. Just wait to see Ausar and Ivey grow

@Mrdonjuliothewicked

11 күн бұрын

@@bobbybagseed 1. It's not that serious lol. 2. Yeah idk how many non Detroit fans watched every single game of the Pistons either. Doesn't change the fact that the roster is not constructed well at all.

Shelton can you please fo a podcast on the Maimi Heat. Heat fans want to know what they will do for the 2024-25 season? Thank you! Great podcast,keep up the great work.

need a blazers off-season vid. please give me some hope man

Monty Williams adjustments are terrible. Monty has no imagination. Terrible hire by Tom Gores....

I think Troy Weaver will be "Gone Fishin'" REAL soon.

@scottwickett1273

24 күн бұрын

I sure hope so!

Great video! Thoughts on Detroit targeting Mikal Bridges in a trade?

@scottwickett1273

Ай бұрын

They can't afford him.

hope you have Pelicans preview coming soon

I agree the Pistons need to be better, but it is very unlikely that exist a clear way for being REALLY better. I can see, depending on who will be the new president of basketball ops, they trying to erase so many of Troy Weaver's mistakes by making some sparkling decisions this offseason. Giving a lot of money for Tobias and Klay will for sure make the team better for the next season, but in exchange will compromise a big part of the future. To me, the ideal scenario is trying to bring free agents that fit in the timeline of Cade without paying an absurd amount of money. Toppin is a good name. Monk will be too expensive. Melton is young and a good 3 point shooter and point of attack defender, probably not very expensive too. Hartenstein will probably need more than 20mil to trande NY for Detroit, so I don't know if it's the best idea. Bitadze is a solid center that would cost way less.

You need to look at Iveys splits post all star break. He looked awful and if hes on the team next year it has to be off the bench unless he dramatically improves from 3

@Acheeka77

Ай бұрын

He also was like the only starter playing with g league dudes.. how come he can’t get the same excuse as Cade

@pheralanpathfinder4897

Ай бұрын

@Acheeka77 Agreed! Plus the Pistons win percentage was about the same with Cade and with Ivey instead of Cade. If Ivey ​isn't super high potential what does that say about Cade?

@scottwickett1273

Ай бұрын

@@pheralanpathfinder4897 Nothing, it says nothing at all about Cade. Cade is good, Ivey is bad.

If you can find a way to pry Mikal Bridges from the Nets, you do it. The Nets don't have a first rounder in this draft ,and may want to get into this draft.

For the Pistons off-season they just need any kind of direction. If the front office actually cares about going into a direction that includes the team playing meaningful games in March & April next season, then the first move should be firing Monty. The new Head Of Basketball Operations that'll be hired (Looks like it'll be Jon Horst), needs to brutal with his moves. I'm sure Monty is a good coach, but imo he's not the coach suited for the specific Pistons roster. Monty always seemed like a money hire, more than a hire that can build something special for a number of seasons with this young core. I think candidates like Kenny Atkinson, Charles Lee & Chris Quinn are the kinds of coaches that would fit what I'm saying. Next would be what to do with some of the team-options/non-guarantees that are on the roster. Waiving Evan Fournier's $19M team-option might be the easiest decision to be made. Then there's Troy Brown Jr who is non-guaranteed for $4M, I can see them possibly keeping him on the roster as a cheap rotation wing. However if it was up to me, I'm waiving him as well, as Troy didn't show me enough to warrant staying on the team. There's also Metu & Umude who both have club options, and I personally would keep Umude but waive Metu. Umude showed me this past season, that he'll fight for his minutes and that stuck with me. He's also scheduled to make only $2.1M next season, so keeping him would be cheap. Then there's the million dollar question, Should some of the young core be traded? I am talking about Ivey, Ausar, or Duren, not Cade who is the focal point and the face of the franchise. Part of me wants a new coach that excels in developing and creating relationships with players to have a chance in doing that with the young core. I completely get it if any Pistons fans want to see Duren or Ivey being traded, and if Monty is still the HC then I am 100% on board with that. Him playing Killian Hayes over Ivey for most of the first half of this past season, is still something that I haven't gotten over. Now it's free agency time, where the Pistons HAVE to do well in. For me they should follow the Rockets blueprint in how they approach free agency. Sign vets that can contribute to winning basketball, come in and change the culture, and provide as a mentor to these young players. I'll just get this out of the way, re-signing Fonteccio should be of high importance, and something of a 3 yr; $45M contract ($15M AAV) would probably get it done. Now it's time to spend this cap space, and I would begin with getting a true defensive big that'll push Duren. For me that player is Hartenstein, who has deserved this payday he's going to get. He's been a vital part of the success that the Knicks have had this season/playoffs. I think a 4 yr; $72M offer ($18M AAV) might do it. Next this might be a pipe dream, but KCP would be my next target. There is no reason for KCP to leave the Nuggets, but he has a player-option that he might decline. If he does do that, then I would tempt him with big money for a low number of years. A 2 yr; $40M offer ($20M AAV), would allow him to go back in free agency one more time to get a good enough contract. Once again this is mostly a pipe dream, but he was drafted by the Pistons, maybe he would want to return for a better role. Then there's everybody's favorite target, Tobias Harris. Look I am just straight up going to say that he's going to be playing for the Pistons come next season. There's just too much smoke for there not to be fire, so for me all it comes down to is what kind of contract will he get. In no world should he be getting $30M a year on his next contract, but if he agrees to something like 3 yr; $75M ($25M AAV) with the third year being a team-option then I'm all for it. Maybe I could be talked into a 4 yr; $100M deal with the 4th year being a team option, but I would feel a lot more comfortable with the first scenario. Onto the draft where it's also of great importance that they get this pick right. If this pick stays at one, then I can really only see three options, Sarr, Risacher, or Buzelis. I have been on record saying that I believe Matas is going to rise up big boards with his individual workouts. There's also the fact that his agent Michael Tellem, is the son of Pistons vice chairman Arm Tellem. This draft is just not one that I like that much, and because I feel this way there's no real consensus number one player imo. I think I still am going to lean towards Risacher with this pick, because of his floor spacing and he's young enough where I feel like his offensive game will get better with more experience. So imo this would be my ideal off-season for Detroit: 1. Fire Monty Williams and hire Kenny Atkinson 2. Waive Fournier, Brown Jr & Metu (Keep Umude) 3. Re-Sign Fonteccio 4. Sign Tobias (On a friendly contract), Hartenstein & KCP (More of a pipe-dream) 5. Draft Risacher at #1 PG: Cade/Ivey/Sasser SG: KCP/Ausar/Grimes SF: Fonteccio/Risacher/Umude PF: Tobias/Stewart C: Hartenstein/Duren

@Saulgoodmanman

Ай бұрын

Lol they can't fire monte. Do you see his contract? They have to pay all that out . They have no money for anyone else

@victorakwaowo7998

Ай бұрын

@@Saulgoodmanman I promise you if the new Head Of Basketball Operations comes in and says “I want Monty fired”, then Gores will fire him on the spot and take on his money. This is a billionaire we’re talking about here.

@jsports2665

Ай бұрын

I like it all except the hartenstein contract... way to much

@victorakwaowo7998

Ай бұрын

@@jsports2665 That’s fair, what would you do instead at the center spot?

@Crymson1

Ай бұрын

@@Saulgoodmanman All reports are that Gores is willing to take the hit. And you're exaggerating the cost. $13 million isn't much more than the average player salary in the NBA.

Who is piston draft 2024

Klay and Dwight

I think the Pistons should be built like the Chris Paul Clippers.

If they pick Haliburton they more than likely wouldn't have gotten cade too. So which one would you build around?

@chilidaemon7113

Ай бұрын

Hali is better than Cade

@justin313rdallday

Ай бұрын

The one playing in the playoffs

@scottwickett1273

Ай бұрын

Cade.

Jalen Duren is a STUD!! No way I would bail on him. This kid has all star written all over him.

@UtilitySports

Ай бұрын

Agreed

@pheralanpathfinder4897

Ай бұрын

What does Duren do better than Drummond?

@azmotov9733

Ай бұрын

​@@pheralanpathfinder4897Duren already is much more athletic than Drummond and has a much higher ceiling at only 20 years old. Drummond put up a lot of empty stats in his time, whilst Duren is a great lob threat for Cade and showed some pretty great defense at the start of the year before he got injured.

@lovedenaro6729

Ай бұрын

@@azmotov9733Duren is putting up empty stats too.

@pheralanpathfinder4897

Ай бұрын

@@azmotov9733 Defensive metrics aren't reliable so I can't provide a definitive comparison of their defense. That said Drum blocked way more shots early in his career and was the best roll man of his era. RJ Drum was mostly winning 30 games early in his career with a not great roster. The only thing Duren has been better at is FT shooting. That does matter but unless he vastly improves from three or suddenly becomes an elite defender he isn't better than Drum. Back in the day I was a huge fan of Drum but his style of play is no longer valued in the NBA.

Pistons need a vet like Booker to duo with Cade in order to be competitive at least play in

@scottwickett1273

Ай бұрын

They can't afford Booker.

@waaawiebaaaldo3692

Ай бұрын

Tobias Harris is good

I think the kid from Tennessee Dalton Kennect (don't know how to spell his last name) would be a great pick at #5. His upside is 2nd in this draft IMO behind Rob Dillingham

@scottwickett1273

24 күн бұрын

He is older than half of the players already in the NBA, he doesn't have upside.

They should bring in CP3 and move Cade to shooting guard. Trade Ivy while he's still seen as having potential.

Yes we will cry about picking 5th

Charlotte w the number 1

They could improve on 2025 at least play in

Jaden Ivey was the biggest let down. Very disappointed in his play this season. Ivey Jump-shot was at the bottom of the barrel... terrible..

@Lionheart831

Ай бұрын

Jaden Ivey isn't the issue; rather, it is the inadequate coaching that poses the real challenge.

@phil1980boy

Ай бұрын

@@Lionheart831 I am not vouching for Monty Williams as he is a stubborn old man who makes no adjustments in game and should be FIRED ASAP! But no excuses for Jaden Ivey. He was terrible this season. No EXCUSES!

@pheralanpathfinder4897

Ай бұрын

33% from three and 54 TS% is far from the bottom

@scottwickett1273

Ай бұрын

@@pheralanpathfinder4897 It's still nowhere near good enough for his projected role, and he's still a bad FT shooter too.

please help us, UtilitySports - signed, Distraught Pistons fan 🙏

Go get John Collins and Kris Dunn. We need some damn vets

Monty is not the right coach for the team or he’s too stubborn to be open minded and utilize his players correctly

@scottwickett1273

24 күн бұрын

It doesn't matter who the coach is when you have the very worst GM in the history of the sport.

EVERYBODY IS ON THE TRADING BLOCK.. EVERYBODY!!

Get Miles Bridges and Buddy Hield in free agency. Trade the pick for Brandon Ingram. Resign fontecio and grimes.

@pheralanpathfinder4897

Ай бұрын

Ingram is oft injured and shoots fewer 3s than Stew. At the right contract extension I'm in but he is asking for Blake Griffin money

@julioescobar8872

Ай бұрын

@@pheralanpathfinder4897 Minor injuries, every player in the nba is often injured. Ingram can easily shoot more 3s. Beef stew is trash. Has no gravity on the court. Defenses dont respect him and defensively hes too small to protect the rim and too big and slow to guard the perimeter. Im takind BI over Stewart any day of the week

@scottwickett1273

Ай бұрын

@@julioescobar8872 Stew is the second-best player on this team. Also you are a disgusting slimeball monster for wanting Miles Bridges, why do you love woman beating so much?

With Monty, it wasn't just about the roster. Phoenix Monty bore very little resemblance to Detroit Monty. Detroit Monty would have had not even the slightest chance of getting another job in the NBA. How he declined from competent to among the worst coaches the modern era has ever seen is anyone's guess. This isn't an exaggeration. He was outrageously incompetent. I've never seen its like.

Its almost like Montys wife died and he planned to take a year off after overachieving with Phoenix lol He was horrible tho

Pistons just got on lucky with injuries they're not a bad team !!

@scottwickett1273

Ай бұрын

Lol that's not true. They have a very bad roster because they have the very worst GM in league history, that's how you go 14-68.

Ivey should play pg and Cade should be the sg or sf since all he wants to do is shoot anyway 🤷 he has the steph curry approach to being a pg 😂 just shoot. Never stop shooting lmfao

@scottwickett1273

Ай бұрын

No, this is false. You don't know what you're talking about.

Sign Monk and Claxton. Draft Matas. Trade Duren and Ivey. Trade for Kuzma (good contract for a 20ppg wing) Monty’s gonna be here so get him players he’ll play. He hates Ivey and messed up Duren’s head. Cade/Sasser Monk/Grimes Fonteccio/Ausar Kuzma/Matas Claxton/Stewart

@jstylez.z

Ай бұрын

Grimes? Really?

Ain’t no lottery system. We all know it’s rigged. We’re use to it now .Let’s get ready for the 5th pick again guys in the worse draft in years 🤷🏽‍♂️😂

@Wake-up1776

Ай бұрын

If it's rigged they'd give us pick 1 in a weak class with no clear cut #1 because our pick will be extremely expensive and picks 3, 4 or 5 could easily end up being the better player

Avoid picking 1st in this draft. Way too expensive for a draft without a clesr cut #1

Fire troy and Monty Get Miami gm and assistant gm as president of basketball and gm Iggy or rondo as coach resign Flynn and fronttechio get Jonathan Issac (if don't pick up option if magic do get bridges) Klay Thompson cappella in Free agency trade Stew sassor three second and 2030 pick swap for herb Jones start Cade Klay herb Jones Jonathan Issac duren with Ivey Flynn fronttechio asuar capella off bench

They need to go sign Miles Bridges day 1 of free agency