Details About King Edward I We Didn't See In 'Braveheart'
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Edward I (actually the fourth, but who's counting?) is familiar to most as the antagonist in the 1995 film Braveheart. Played to malevolent perfection by veteran Irish actor Patrick McGoohan, Edward is typically remembered as a tyrannical but brutally effective ruler. A more restrained portrayal of an aging ruler by Stephen Dillane can be seen in 2018's Outlaw King, but there have been no major portrayals of Edward's rule as a whole or of him in his prime.
The real Edward I was one of the most influential monarchs to ever take the English throne. His lengthy reign shaped the course of not only English history, but also Scottish and Welsh history for years to come.
He lived an eventful life full of adventure, intrigue, innovation, and savage cruelty against those who opposed him. This collection showcases some of the most interesting details of Edward's life that haven't been shown on screen. Yet.
#edwardthefirst #braveheart #weirdhistory
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*_"As King, you must find the good in any situation."_* -King Edward I
My favorite part in Outlaw King is him walking up to the trebuchet and saying “the Garrison just surrendered this morning, but it took 2 months to build this so we’re going to use it.”
@Rome.s_Greatest_Enemy
3 ай бұрын
well can't disagree with him .... if I waited that much sure I can fire a shot
Braveheart has been my favorite movie since I was 7 years old, I'm 35 now. Knowing its historically incorrect for almost 15 years now, I still believe it's an amazing movie.
@kanyebreast6072
Жыл бұрын
It truly is an amazing movie. But Mel Gibson and the scriptwriter never claimed it was historically accurate. They both made it very clear that they used artistic license in order to make the movie as exciting as possible. So I didnt like the way this video was so critical of the makers of Braveheart.
@lft3636
Жыл бұрын
Edward I is 6’2. And then there’s William Wallace who is 6’7
@carlhicksjr8401
Жыл бұрын
There's a lot of movies out there that are historically awful but damned entertaining. As you can tell form my pic, I'm a Civil War reenactor and I'll tell anybody who asks that it's because I saw too many John Ford cavalry movies as a child. 😁 I'm also a fan of the Heston/Loren 'El Cid'. But I'm well aware that those movies bear no resemblance to historical fact. That's alright. That's not what I'm watching those movies for.
@philcooper279
Жыл бұрын
How do you feel about the BBC series Auschwitz? A piece of advice, forget about history, your too easily lead, take up gardening instead.
@philcooper279
Жыл бұрын
@@kanyebreast6072 A piece of free advice, keep away from history, watch cartoons instead, if you want some excitement in your life, find a girl . Mel Gibson, is known to 3 a supporter of the IRA, as well as a believer in anti semitism . Braveheart is a complete load of nonsense, though, perhaps, quite suitable, for people of your intellect.
Longshanks’ dedication to his wife Eleanor of Castile was always fascinating. His building Eleanor Crosses to stand in her memory was touching. Another interesting period of medieval history is the White Ship disaster that lead to the Anarchy.
@annabaker8137
Жыл бұрын
The white ship event is so bizarre and strange for just how such a little event can have a huge impact on history in the way English History played out and world history too.
@mnomadvfx
Жыл бұрын
"Another interesting period of medieval history is the White Ship disaster that lead to the Anarchy" More interesting is the end of the Anarchy and the genesis of the Plantagenet bloodline of English royalty in Henry II - husband to Eleanor of Aquitane and father to Richard the Lionheart and the famous King John (who himself was Edward I's grandfather).
@annabaker8137
Жыл бұрын
@@mnomadvfx exactly what I mean, if that ship never sank we probably wouldn't have a Hundred Years War
@jessfawkes5727
Жыл бұрын
I think he was one of the few kings that was loyal to his wife and didn’t take up a mistress. N yeah that disaster is really interesting
I kinda wish how you mentioned how Edward I was an especially loving husband. There's no record of him ever having mistresses or bastards, and was genuinely in love with both of his wives such that when Elanor died he went into a state of utter grief. As she had died in Scotland, Edward I went with the body personally to Westminster Abbey, and along the way he had numerous crosses erected known as Elanor crosses. He only remarried ten years after Elanor died As for Margaret of France and Edward's marriage he fell in love the second she insisted to come with him on his wars like Elanor had. The marriage was so loving that when he died and people approached Margaret of France with offers of marriage because she was still 26 she refused and said "when Edward died, all men died for me." Mind you this was medieval times and she was a princess, this was extremely rare. Nevermind how he laid the groundworks for the influence the House of Commons had in Parliament that would morph into the beast it is now
@richardkretzmer8478
Жыл бұрын
Thanksgivings o
@richardkretzmer8478
Жыл бұрын
Thanks
@TheScottm52
Жыл бұрын
These are very well-done historical videos.
@daveandow2809
Жыл бұрын
Elanor died at Harby in Nottinghamshire in 1290.
@SantomPh
Жыл бұрын
Elanor died in Nottingham, England. And the House of Commons is a shouting gallery that does very little good.
And this is why I come to history channels. I don't expect Hollywood to be historically accurate, but these channels get as close to accuracy as possible. Thanks!
@schoolssection
Жыл бұрын
To rely upon Hollywood for history is like depending upon social media/internet for truth.
Princess Isabelle (sp?) is a fascinating character in real life. Her father was the french king that brought the Templars down and burned them all at the stake because he didn’t want to pay his debts to them. But his daughter was an apple that didn’t fall far from the tree.
@professorsprout3382
Жыл бұрын
You got my history habit itching gotta check on Isabelle now. Greetings from the order of the Jedhi. You may be a Sith but do you have your emblem on the nose of your mighty Yaris? I have a gold order of the Jedhi on the nose of my wee little Yaris and a flying pig attached to the antenna as a tribute to KPIG. You might like KPIG nerds unite. "Keep the bacon shakin". Party on Sith.
@mnomadvfx
Жыл бұрын
"But his daughter was an apple that didn’t fall far from the tree" She only had that opportunity because Edward II was as weak as his father was strong. Had he been even half his father he would have had too much power and cunning for her to ever get the best of him.
@SafetySpooon
Жыл бұрын
@@mnomadvfx If he'd been half the man his father was, she wouldn't have needed to a damned thing. She only rebelled because he was turning the country over to his "favorites".
@carlhicksjr8401
Жыл бұрын
And it isn't as if Sophie Marceau wasn't **stunning** in the film or anything....
@kellyshomemadekitchen
Жыл бұрын
@@SafetySpooon exactly!
Braveheart was such a good movie it doesn’t even bother me how inaccurate it is
@michaelgryboski1
Жыл бұрын
That describes a lot of historical films. As a graduate of T.C. Williams High School, I am well versed in the numerous factual errors of "Remember the Titans." They include the school being already integrated when Coach Boone showed up, Coach Yoast having 4 daughters instead of one, and the final game actually being a shut-out with a score of 27-0.
@white-dragon4424
Жыл бұрын
Obviously you're not English.
@BoylenInk
Жыл бұрын
Well I’m happy for you. I watched it in the theater and absolutely loved the movie. Loved it so much I went and studied the history of Scotland’s war with England. I found the incredible difference between the movie and true history too much. I’ve never watched the whole movie again. There are limits to creative license and Braveheart passed that limit without slowing down.
@Bobmudu35UK
8 ай бұрын
People in the UK knew it was bollocks.
@Brown87
6 ай бұрын
Same, bud; it was a great movie and I wish all the snowflakes would stop bitching about the dates, names, facts, etc 😐 Hollywood movies about wars, battles, historical events, etc, will always take some creative control over the film in order to make it more dramatic 💯
I was just reading up on the history behind Braveheart yesterday, out of interest in Longshanks and his son! Couldn’t have been a better time to release this video. Thank you!
@MrMetalman419
Жыл бұрын
if you havent seen it already you should watch 'outlaw king' the movie is based on the rise of Robert the bruce
@Wyattinous
Жыл бұрын
@@MrMetalman419 I’ll add it on the list! Thank you for recommending it to me.
@BBeowulf
Жыл бұрын
Yeah Braveheart is an entertaining film but almost entirely historically inaccurate, offensively so to people interested in history. I’d love a good movie about Longshanks, he’s one of medieval Europe’s greatest warrior kings who had so many heroic qualities, endured some very interesting life experiences and was an all out gentleman with his love life. His life would make a very entertaining movie. He was almost a stereotype of some fictional hero, much more than the villain he’s portrayed as in Braveheart.
Yes he was a ruthless expansionist. Succeeded in conquering Wales something that William the Conqueror couldn't even do.
@HexxyEEE
Жыл бұрын
Didnt he get very lucky with all the infighting among the Welsh at the time? Not denying his military prowess
@jameshazelwood9433
Жыл бұрын
@@HexxyEEE Wales was very important to the Plantagenet Norman's because it was still ruled by a Welsh elite. Scotland was always different because the elites were Norman's
@mnomadvfx
Жыл бұрын
William didn't have a couple centuries worth of Norman dominion over England working for him. Never underestimate the value of highly entrenched infrastructure. Wales was also never William's ambition which was well sated by the conquest of England - easily argued to be a far larger prize in European eyes at the time. By comparison Wales would have been only a footnote in his history.
@rainstriderstreamflower5645
Жыл бұрын
He also massacred a town!
@HexxyEEE
Жыл бұрын
@@rainstriderstreamflower5645 I think I read about that massacre, it was in the welsh trilogy by sharon kay pennman. Really great books, try them!
Dang StarWars is more historically accurate than BraveHeart
Never lose this narrator.
In Scotland we learned about William Wallace and Robert the Bruce at school with many things being left out. You pretty much have to do your own homework to find out about Longshanks and other Royalty throughout the years.
I enjoy the art of the time you always show. Love Medieval art, poetry & music.
Thank you for the history that I never knew I needed.
@alicerivierre
Жыл бұрын
Ditto, my main dude!
@chickwing667
Жыл бұрын
@@alicerivierre exactly, next he's going to tell us about why the football war happend
I learned a few years ago that I'm apparently descended from Edward I, Robert the Bruce, and William Wallace. When my oldest heard that, at age 5, she became convinced that she was a princess and started wondering why I wasn't making a claim for the throne. "First of all, sweetie, we're Americans." "Okay." "Secondly... our claim died nearly a thousand years ago." "But... we have a claim." "Yes, we do have a claim." "Yay! I'm a princess!"
@mmhthree
Жыл бұрын
Just about anyone of English heritage alive today will find them as grandfathers. When I found out I was totally excited. It's really neat, just not all that rare at this point in time.
@cambs0181
Жыл бұрын
William Wallace didn't have any children!
@AmnaNoor366
Жыл бұрын
I recently found out I'm descended from Edward I also, through his daughter Joan of Acre. Never knew anything about my father's side of the family except for a few names so I started my research from there. I couldn't believe what I had found! So many English ancestors, with a lot of them being upper class. Also found a lot of French ancestors, which would make sense I guess. What fascinates me the most is being related to people that have a written history and are well known.
@misscoffeebeans
8 ай бұрын
This is so cringe.
Fantastic video keep it up your doing amazing job
Braveheart was so wildly inaccurate that is pains me to see that people view it as historical non-fiction.
@shaunsteele8244
Жыл бұрын
it's based on the poem by Blind Harry, which relies more on embellished myths and legends about Wallace than historical fact
@GearheadDaily
Жыл бұрын
@@shaunsteele8244 be that as it may, people still view it as true history.
As a number of people have commented Edward was a loyal and loving husband. But the most obvious fact about Edward is his greatness. Among Medieval English monarchs only Edward III rivals him. He spent almost all his reign under canvas on campaign. He was a great military leader and understood the importance of maintaining control over conquered lands by means of bastides and planted towns. He was also a gifted politician. When the conquered Welsh said they would never accept a Prince of Wales who had spoken English, he presented his six month old son. His greatest monument is Caernafon castle. It abandons the rules of castle building (learned from the Crusades) in favour of a single curtain wall, 30 feet thick in places. The towers are octangular and banded to mimic the walls of Constantinople. This was a nod to the Welsh who were still Romanised and therefore thought themselves culturally superior on account of higher standards of personal hygiene, among other things. Edwards great symbol of English domination over the Welsh at Caernafon is now for many Welsh people, a great symbol of the nation. The town itself is the heartland if Welsh nationalism with virtually everyone a first language Welsh speaker.
@Jerepasaurus
Жыл бұрын
I believe he also learned from the Welsh the superiority of the Longbow, which was not standard for war in England at the time. The famous English Longbow was originally the Welsh Warbow, as the Welsh were the first peoples of Britain to invent it. The Welsh never get enough credit for their contributions, or recognition for having held out being conquered by invaders for a thousand years or so.
@jontalbot1
Жыл бұрын
@@Jerepasaurus That’s not true. In Shakespeares Henry V there is a Captain Fluellen who is Welsh. You will have to forgive the spelling. And all historical accounts make clear it was the Welsh archers wot won the battle of Agincourt. What l find really interesting is that the descendants of the English veterans at Caernafon joined on the side of Owain Glyndwr. Small confession: I am English but a lover of Wales. Wonderful, beautiful country
You didn't mention that the beginning of the movie calls him a Pagan so that all the Christians watching the movie will immediately think he's a savage barbarian, and contrast him with the Scots kneeling to pray before battles and Steven thinking he hears the voice of god and such. Given how conservative Catholic Gibson is, I'm a) not surprised he would use that as code for "evil man" but also b) surprised he would demonize a Catholic who literally went on crusade.
@shaunsteele8244
Жыл бұрын
yes he was a Christian king and even fought in the Crusades, but I'm sure from the point of view of the Scots he was as "pagan" as they come.
@sarahc9567
Жыл бұрын
Yes! This always bothered me!
@JPabloRL
Жыл бұрын
I’d rather be pagan then Catholic anyways.
@lorneclose7312
Жыл бұрын
History as always is written by the victors. From a Scots point of view longshanks was evil and nothing short of usurper. And to the Scots he was a pagan just as the Scots were probably viewed as being by the English.
@brianbell564
Жыл бұрын
You can be a Catholic King, fight in the Crusades and still be an evil asshole to the Scots. Just saying…
Very interesting history and thanks for sharing.
Why is there a picture of the 16th century reformer and theologian Marin Luther at 3:54 point of the video?
Very interesting. He's my ancestor and I'm always fascinated in family history. Thank you for sharing.
@charlesburfoot1799
Жыл бұрын
I e never let facts get in the way of a good story
When I first heard that Braveheart was completly innacurate I couldn't understand why Hollywood seems unable to stick to real events.... Then I remembered that one of my favorite movies of all times is also completly innacurate: Amadeus by Milos Forman. I guess you can forgive all these innacuraties when the rest of the elements are great: script, direction, acting, costume desing, cinematography... Braveheart is a great movie and so is Amadeus
@carolynsilvers9999
Жыл бұрын
It drives me crazy that movie writers clobber history. Often the true story is far more interesting. Not to mention, many. people rely of these film as facts... No wonder society repeats mistakes repeatedly.
@sleepybunny2
Жыл бұрын
@@carolynsilvers9999 The movie never claimed itself as historical. You can't expect a drama movie to stick to the historical facts.
@earlwheelock7844
Жыл бұрын
They call it ( poetic licence in the film industry )
@differentfins
Жыл бұрын
Pretty sure Mel Gibson has it out for England. He has his films to taint English history, sure some of the tyranny was factual but he really made England look like bad guys in his movie and pretty sure it was intentional propaganda.
His nickname came from the fact that he was 6'1" in an era where the average male was about 5'3".
@Michael_De_Santa-Unofficial
Жыл бұрын
Edward I was 1.88 (6'2") metres tall, and the average male was 1.73 (5'8") metres tall.
@sethmaki1333
Жыл бұрын
@@Michael_De_Santa-Unofficial meh, 5'8" is still short lol
@robertlees7528
Жыл бұрын
Blind harry had the wallace at 7foot tall!
@plugmanjohnson7456
Жыл бұрын
@@robertlees7528 yes, and if he were here he'd shoot fireballs out of his arse
@LookHereMars
9 ай бұрын
@robertlees7528 Yeah, and he shoots lightning bolts from his arse.
Braveheart is a great movie, despite it's inaccuracy. It inspired me to learn more about the Scottish War of Independence, which is a very fascinating subject. The Scots did defeat the English at the Battle of Sterling Bridge in 1297, although much differently than in the movie. The actual battle had the Scots on one side of the river, and the English on the other. The Scots waited for the English to advance and cross the single bridge over the river, and when they did the Scots either killed them as they crossed or pushed them into the water, causing them to drown due to the weight of their armor.
@robert.257
Жыл бұрын
Stirling is spelt like that.
@Si_Mondo
Жыл бұрын
An astounding victory for the Scots.....and that's coming from an Englishman.
@richardarcher7177
Жыл бұрын
Apparently when they were making the Stirling battle scene in the film a Scot raised the question of where was the bridge in the production. When he was told that including the bridge would create problems the Scot replied: "Aye, the English thought the same."
@andrewalden8364
Жыл бұрын
If you think that movie was great, you probably think Abe Lincoln was an actual vampire killer.
Braveheart is a great movie very exciting . People confusing entertainment with history seems to be the real problem .
Literally just watched an hour and 30 doc yesterday on People Profiles on Edward. Great watch, this video is great for smashing braveheart, as an historian I can't help but laugh at Gibson on that horse FREEEEEDOM
Princess Isabella was like 5 or 6 at the time that Braveheart took place. BTW she was a fascinating person in her own right.
Very good video! I've never seen "Braveheart" though because I don't watch movies. It's more interesting to read history or catch videos like this one that compile interesting facts.
Edward gave the Prince of Wales and the Scottish people a chance to pay him homage and keep their lives and lands. However, if he was defied, he was absolutely ruthless until his enemies submitted. He was a lot like Henry II, but not a overtly cruel king like his grandfather, John I. Very much a King of his era. His Uncle (Simon de Montfort) earned his wrath because he had threatened his mother in London. Actually. Edward was a mama's boy.
@baileywright3113
Жыл бұрын
Love this tidbit! Thanks for sharing
@gasmonkey1000
Жыл бұрын
I mean Henry III was too busy praying to hovern so who else is he gonna look up to aside from his crusader uncle and mother? And, yeah, after having his mother threatened it's no wonder why he went full savage on Montfort and his kids (who correct me if I'm wrong had a hand in Edward's education)
@schoolssection
Жыл бұрын
Why do call King John "cruel".
@gasmonkey1000
Жыл бұрын
@@schoolssection Cause he was. He starved a vassal's family to death, he was abusive to both of his wives, murdered his nephew Arthur, and was fond of sexually assaulting the daughters of his barons.
The only thing I liked about Braveheart was the musical score. I would put the CD in my computer and play Quake. The two were a good match.
The Welsh should be grateful to Edward for building the wonderful tourist attraction castles for them.
@schoolssection
Жыл бұрын
And for rarebit and corgis.
Wow. I knew almost nothing about those times. I love the Braveheart movie so much but I pretty much thought it was all fictional. Sounded like Edward was pretty popular name back then. King Edward sure seemed to be busy King. Very interesting. Thanks 👍
@CeleWolf
Жыл бұрын
Edward was a popular name til quite recently.
Thanks for this! 👑
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Very interesting fakts. Thx
Trebuchet are fascinating weapons, used to be a 10 or so ft one near our high-school band practice field for nearly my whole time there. Not sure if it was built buy a high school or middle school class. 32 now so yeah, quite a while ago.
@FailingArtist
Жыл бұрын
Yeah, I saw one in Scotland. You never really get a sense of how big they are until you’re standing next to one. Pretty cool!
@stevezodiac491
Жыл бұрын
There is one in the grounds of Urquhart Castle, next to Loch Ness.
Excellent video. I love reading historical fiction. Actually they keep the main factors in place. My favorite part of the video was your comment you go dude. 😂
Love him or Hate him, just remember.....you CANNOT Judge a historical figure by today's standards! Things were VERY different back then, it's over 700 yrs ago, ffs! Personally, I admire all 3 men, King Edward, William Wallace & King Robert the Bruce! They all had their good points & bad. As we all do! As for Braveheart, I do love the film, but I know that it has almost NOTHING to do with reality! Great video, loved it, thank u! 🥰
@renaissanceredneck3695
Жыл бұрын
Very well said!!
@Vonklieve
Жыл бұрын
Tell that to SNP supporters!
@joeyjohnson4826
Жыл бұрын
no they were much worse farther back the plantagenets were quite the ruthless bunch but they were Norman's after all they were warrior Kings it was the f****** dark ages 😂
@lovepurple83
Жыл бұрын
Um-you can judge an historical figure. At least by some human standards. Edward I was a ruthless killer. He was a giant dick-yesterday and today.
@schoolssection
Жыл бұрын
@@joeyjohnson4826 A Brit friend once remarked to me "the Plantagenets were a bloodthirsty lot". The Normans (Vikings) were not much better.
The part of Queen Isabella & William Wallace in the movie was a substantial one. I guess I should not be surprised that the writers of Braveheart got that wrong too (since as you say she was only an infant then, and most understood the French language).
@macjames3289
Жыл бұрын
The writers didnt get it wrong. It's a film 📼 🙄
@mnomadvfx
Жыл бұрын
"and most understood the French language" Norman French =/= French. Norman French was heavily influenced/hybridised with the Germanic language of its founders who were of similar heritage to the Vikings that invaded England numerous times in the centuries prior to the Norman conquest.
@hetrodoxly1203
Жыл бұрын
@@macjames3289 A film portraying real historical people and events should have a resemblance of accuracy, i agree it is a fantasy film, they should have made it about fictional characters.
@macjames3289
Жыл бұрын
@@hetrodoxly1203 I simply do not agree, unless of corse there is a statement at the beginning of suggesting so? That's a genuine question 🙋🏻♂️ So unless stated why can the writer not simply use the characters for his own purposes to tell a story. Our ancestors have been doing this very act forever. On a large scale such as the Bible, or down the local pub.......... Brave Heart is my most excellent example ♥
@hetrodoxly1203
Жыл бұрын
@@macjames3289 You're entitled to disagree but i stand by my first post, where do you draw the line 'Hitler the good years' what would you have thought of the film if they'd portrayed Wallace as a murdering tyrant.
VERY INFORMATIVE. HE WAS MY 28TH GREAT GRANDFATHER. 👍
@schoolssection
Жыл бұрын
He was the late Queen's 19th great grandfather. Crunching numbers at 25 yrs/generation, you haven't been born yet.
Thanks! Your channel is fascinating. 🎃
I mean if I were Edward, I would want to control my whole island (Britain) too. Can't really blame him
@gargantuanclaymore6824
Жыл бұрын
The Romans conquered Briton but couldn't conquer Scotland. Hardly his island eh? You also can't really blame your auntie from scrubbing her gooch with your toothbrush seeing as shite spills from your gob anyway.
@michellepeoplelikeyoumurde8373
Жыл бұрын
S S unfortunate initials or did the parents know something
@shaunsteele8244
Жыл бұрын
@@michellepeoplelikeyoumurde8373 fortunate initials if you know who the real bad guys are
I Need you to do a video about the history of the Dutch East Indian Trading Company... please please 🙏!
An Irish lady I know, said that kilts were brought over from Ireland when the Irish came across the Irish sea and occupied the Scottish Highlands. I asked when _did_ the Irish come to the Highlands? She had to look it up. "Around the 6th century." When _did_ the kilt become fashionable in Scotland? She had to look that up too. "Around the 16th century." "Are you trying to tell me that the Irish brought them across the Irish sea and then waited 1000 years before trotting them out for the very first time?" "OK. No."
@CeleWolf
Жыл бұрын
It was a tourist thing...the different tartans and kilts as we know them. Not Irish
@ryanautrey2269
Жыл бұрын
Well, if I'm going to watch a movie with Scots in it, they ought to be wearing kilts so we can really get the impression that they're Scots. That's probably the concensus.
@bazmc1153
Жыл бұрын
It was more of a survival kit for the Highlanders back then as it wrapped round there whole body. But it was modified by an Englishman for Scottish soldiers to wear like the black watch.
Not to mention Edward the first challenged Wallace to 1 on 1 combat Edward was known as strong warrior and never was unhorsed in Jousting
This is my favourite presenter. Good voice acting too.
Excellent! Unbiased depiction of my ancestors, thank you☺
@jmccoomber1659
Жыл бұрын
Says everybody who thinks they're English...
@rubymontano1599
Жыл бұрын
@@jmccoomber1659 actually I've done my family genealogy back several thousand years, literally.. My maternal side 3 of my mother's 4 grandparents are descended from the entire Scottish throne , except the Bruce and all the Plantagenet Angevin line. It is foolish to say you're something you're not, so I only say what I know.
@rubymontano1599
Жыл бұрын
@@jmccoomber1659 and as a side note my Hispanic last name is adopted.
@jmccoomber1659
Жыл бұрын
@@rubymontano1599 Whenever folks "do" their genealogy, why is it they're always descended from royalty, aristocrats, or famous people? I don't think there's been enough DNA sequenced from the tiny number of authenticated royalty skeletons for anyone to prove they're related to those long-dead monarchs.
@rubymontano1599
Жыл бұрын
@@jmccoomber1659 for many that is true I have several everyday folk too a father and son from Nottingham in the 1300s Thomas Sherwood sr and jr they were woodcutters. I never believed the stories in my family about Charlemagne or the others until I started doing my research. I was on the computer for probably a week straight in total awe i have a few lines I can't even get past the 1800s but some reach way way back it was really cool. The nice thing about famous relatives is historical documentation it made it easier, plus for me it wasn't just one random ancestor but multiple and over dozens of generations. Most my European ancestors came to America btwn 1609 and 1699 and had charters and old money their history was well documented I'm more fascinated by my commoner ancestors lives.
For no reason they were expelled by many nations
I might be alone on this, but in the movie Braveheart, I was cheering for King Edward.
@gargantuanclaymore6824
Жыл бұрын
Don't make me fuck you up.
@kanyebreast6072
Жыл бұрын
@@gargantuanclaymore6824 And how you gonna do that, big man?
@gargantuanclaymore6824
Жыл бұрын
@@kanyebreast6072 You want some too jobbie picker? You'll get swung about like a wet trackie
@sirwelch9991
Жыл бұрын
In real life, he was hard not to follow in circumstances due to his acumen.
@igorivanov299
Жыл бұрын
Longshanks was the man. I also supported him. The more I read up on the King, the more I admire him. A great King and visionary. A King that cared for his countrymen.
Great video. Pleaso do make more about medieval times.
Another movie villain suggestion for a Weird History vid: Banastre Tarleton who Col. Tavington is based on in The Patriot
None of the Saxon Kings were numbered. Numbering only started with the Conquest, William I & II, Henry I & II, etc. And enough of Edward's children survived that it's a near mathematical certainty that every Englishman and Englishwoman alive today is his descendant.
I once read he didn't like being referred to as "Eddy Baby," he would become quite animated whenever it happened.
From the sounds of it, the movie depiction was made to make a glorious epic, rather than a history lesson. I don't remember if there was a disclaimer to this effect but it just goes to show the truth can be "boring" and might not sell tickets.
2:03 Isn’t that Edward vi? As in Henry viii’s son?
Laughed at your comment about the last episode of GOT. That was hilarious
I usually don't base my historical knowledge on Hollywood movie productions.
when narrator said braveheart is a classic film I feel so old right now.
There is an 90 minute Kind Edward documentary on "Bio" (KZread Channel) that was just released it's long, but informative, I'd say worth it overall...
I am SHOCKED, SHOCKED to hear that Braveheart was historically inaccurate!
Real history is better than Hollywood history. It's best when they work together to be awesome.
If people are just getting their history lessons from the movies then they deserve the believe it then 🤣😂🤣 Enjoyed your video so I gave it a Thumbs Up
I heard he was the first king to speak what we call, modern day English. It was his current language mixed with Welsh because he wanted to unite the Welsh with his kingdom.
@schoolssection
Жыл бұрын
I would not call the King's speech "modern day English" - Edward was about a century before Chaucer.
Edward was Edward the first because he was the first to rule over the whole of England. The other Edwards were Kings of regions of England, such as East anglia and Sussex. O'level history may not have taught me much, but we sure did learn about our royalty! That said great video as always. Edit for spelling
@aureliusmacfeidh5331
Жыл бұрын
Edward the Confessor ruled over England. The kingdom of England was a thing since King Aethelstan (grandson of Alfred the Great of Wessex). Two university degrees in history may not have taught me much, I guess...
@janepearce5382
Жыл бұрын
@@aureliusmacfeidh5331 well I'm happy to concede defeat, clearly I was not taught correctly. Which is not really a problem given that the royals were and still are an absolute bore!
@aureliusmacfeidh5331
Жыл бұрын
@@janepearce5382 Maybe that's why I'm so interested. I'm a very boring person, you see ;)
@janepearce5382
Жыл бұрын
@@aureliusmacfeidh5331 ha, I'm sure your not boring. History isn't boring. Being made to learn about (to paraphrase,) a succession of people whose only claim to success is coming out of a Queen is! As you can tell I don't rate royalty, but I did look up Edward the Confessor and I found it interesting so thanks.🙂
@aureliusmacfeidh5331
Жыл бұрын
@@janepearce5382 Thank you for your kind words :) By the way, should be interested in a Hollywood-esque tale of knighthood I highly recommend looking up William Marshal!
wow amazing guys
Will & Ed's Excellent Adventure
Wah so benevolent!
How about the most infamous British king-Richard III?
If The Patriot was as historically anachronistic as Braveheart the American militiamen would have been wearing Vietnam era combat fatigues, and wearing Native American war paint!
I don’t care that the movie “Braveheart” was historically inaccurate because the Longshanks character as it was presented in the movie is hilarious. If you haven’t heard Patrice O’Neal’s review of “Braveheart” from the “Opie and Anthony Show”, you are TRULY missing out. You will cry laughing at his take on “Longjeans”. I’d link you, but KZread seems to censor comments that contain links to other KZread videos, more often than not, for no reason anyone can understand.
@negativeindustrial
Жыл бұрын
Here. We’ll try it this way: kzread.info/dash/bejne/gXmJ0pKLpLa6g7A.html Perhaps they will only censor this comment.
@RobertK1993
Жыл бұрын
Who cares if historical inaccurate it's entertaining movie.
@Godzilla00X
Жыл бұрын
I could listen to patrice talk about movies for hours.
@jlshel42
Жыл бұрын
"If Jurassic Park was made by Sci-fi channel, it'd be called 'Prehistoric Forest'." -paraphrasing the late, great Patrice O'neal.
@JohnSmith-rw2yn
Жыл бұрын
could you please give me your assessment on the er. current. SITUATION!!
Love Medieval videos 🥰😎
"It is depended on who you believed the good guys to be" - Mesogog It is a reference to my best attempt to deal to this whole "why real good people are portrayed as villains in historical movies while the the real bad guys in the history are portrayed as the good guys in the historical movie" mess that I often see in some movies. Why is this? I know that the world is not black and white and many people did many messed up things for themselves and their loved ones. But the fact that nobody decided to throw away this trope already is beyond me. And by that, I mean stop making the villains as some sort absolute and unreasonable greedy monsters in human fleshes. I know, I know, the Middle Ages is anything but a nice world similar to ours. But hey, everyone can be reasoned with by using something else in that period, mainly money and religion, to secure another period of peace before another war will broke out.
Trying to find actual history in Braveheart is a heck of a task
@PhantomFilmAustralia
Жыл бұрын
I love Braveheart. Awesome entertainment. If I want history, I'll watch a documentary.
@joeboggio4002
Жыл бұрын
@@PhantomFilmAustralia I agree! As a history lover I cringe, but as a film lover I am thoroughly entertained. Lol
According to my family genealogy, I am a direct descendant of King Edward I (Longshanks). My first thought was, "oh no, I'm related to the bad guy from Braveheart!!!" hahaha!
@Boogeyyyman
Жыл бұрын
I hope at least your boy will a gentle son.
@schoolssection
Жыл бұрын
You and how many millions of Brits?
@ak8990
Жыл бұрын
@@schoolssection oh I am sure of that, I just thought it was funny when I saw that in my genealogy
@squeesquooart
Ай бұрын
Same here 😅
Did they mention Oliver Cromwell who defeated the Scottish Welsh Irish army's all at once ?
W.H. do you think you can debunk any myths surrounding the Wild West and American Revolutions? Thanks a bunch!
Always loved the movie despite the inaccuracies even more so when I found out my family comes from Ireland, Scotland, and wales lmao
When I saw BH as a 9 year old I loved the shit out of it and still do. Yeah its not accurate worth a damn but most 90’s movies weren’t say except for Saving Private Ryan. Mel is and will always be my favorite actor.
@andym9571
Жыл бұрын
The problem is a lot of people did think it was accurate. It kicked started an independence movement in Scotland. There were quit a few things left out in SPR by the way. When asked " why were there no Brits in the film ? " Spielberg said " there were no Brits at Omaha". A fact he got completely wrong.
@geechyguy3441
9 ай бұрын
@@andym9571 There wasn't really any need to show Brits fighting alongside Americans when the British armies had their own beaches to take on that same very day, there is no historical doubt that Omaha was an American force against the Germans. The Canadians, Americans, and British all had their own respective sectors and Omaha was an American sector. Also Mel Gibson ironically was in one of the most historically accurate pieces called "We Were Soldiers" about a battle in Vietnam. And the fighting actually is realistic and the facts are true as far as I'm concerned of how the battle went.
@andym9571
9 ай бұрын
@@geechyguy3441 There were quite a few Brits who landed at Omaha. Communications mainly but a lot if the landing craft were manned by Royal Navy personnel and Royal Navy ships helped to bombard the area.
@geechyguy3441
9 ай бұрын
@@andym9571I'm not saying there weren't Brits at Omaha, I'm saying it's ok that Spielberg chose not to show them cause the main effort was by Americans on this beach. I wouldn't of expected to see any Americans if this was a movie about Gold or Sword beach, and if it was about Juno beach I'd be fine with only seeing Canadians
@andym9571
9 ай бұрын
@@geechyguy3441 Thats absolutely fine. I agree. Spielberg didn't know that there were Brits at Omaha though.
Braveheart was before my time but I do love me some weird history.
@Cervezadog
Жыл бұрын
It's a good movie. You should watch it if you have a chance
Can't trust Hollywood's versions anymore. Thank you for this greaat video .
Trés bon!
How about King Richard (The Lionhart) and his brother John (compare the Robin Hood stories to the real people)?
What a shock.. American movie maker totally rewrites history. Who'd have believed such a thing could happen...🇬🇧
Good
Braveheart made me love him as a “villain/tyrant” AoE 2 and KZread made me love him as a King
O, Flower of Scotland when will we see your like again,. That fought and died for your wee bit hill and glen, And stood against him, proud Edward's army and sent him homeward to think again.
Scotland: exists Edward the first: and I took that personally
Edward I was the first king of Great Britain, uniting Scotland, Wales and England. A true hero.
@requiredparticular6831
Жыл бұрын
Pretty sure Robert the Bruce would have something to say about this…
I grew up with a guy we called 'Tall Eddie'... He didn't like Mel Gibson either.
You're video actually made me like the guy. Thanks for clearing things up;
3:20 Edward Longshanks is officially my favourite King of England!
If I had to choose a king I wanna hear about it's Henry VII.
There's a house in Romsey, England, I believe it's called King John's house but it has nothing to do with King John. However troops of Edward I were once stationed there and one drew a cartoon image of Edward I on the wall. It was a profile view and he drew him with a big nose.
Do a video about Baldwin lV, the leper king of Jeruzalem!
My ancestor.. lol I’m related to him through the Jewett family line.
My favorite English king. I really enjoyed this video 💕