I’ve had several conversations and exchanges online about the history of slavery and modern slavery, including telling people the estimated numbers of slaves around the world today. The point is, I’m surprised that the public and the media are so unaware of the history of the current slavery story. Information has always been available and there have always been journalists, historians, cultural anthropologists, and most people will be surprised by this --- the Intelligence Community (my previous occupation). Most of what I know has come through the Intelligence Community; however, hundreds of articles from various media sources tell the public about the modern-day slave business. I’m more than curious as to why there are so many people today shocked and claiming ignorance about this problem. Am I wrong or does it really seem like Liberals are the most likely group to be completely unaware or in shock by the existence of slavery today? Why are so many Americans completely ignorant of the East African/Middle East Slave Trade, the Ottoman Slave Trade, and Africa's current slave trade? Why are these same people completely ignorant of the slave trade across Mexico, Central and South American slave trade, as well as the current East European and Asian Slave Trade? I’m going to share some of the articles from sources that Liberals consider authoritative. As of this post, I’ve checked that these are still available to read online. The internet is filled with content by arguably reputable sources on this topic as well as the history of slavery. 1. “No region is 'immune' as the number of people in 'modern slavery' climbs to 50 million” published by NPR, Juliana Kim 13 September 2022. 2. “Selling children for profit: Over a million children are sold as slaves every year. Many work in dangerous conditions and more than 20,000 children are killed every year while working.” www. theworldcounts. com 3. “800,000 Modern-Day Slaves Are Living in Russia, Report Says”, July 23, 2018, The Moscow Times. 4. “The Libyan Slave Trade Has Shocked the World. Here’s What You Should Know” TIME . com by Casey Quackenbush, December 1, 2017 3:58 AM EST 5. From Africa in Transition and Africa Program “Confronting Africa's Role in the Slave Trade” published by the Council on Foreign Relations Blog Post by John Campbell, September 26, 2019 10:01 am (EST). Also on KZread www. youtube. com/watch?v=dV7o31P4q4g&t=6s 6. Slavery was recorded in 20th century Ethiopia and continues to exist in Mauritania today. By Martin Plaut 21 February 2018 in The New Statesman 7. “Slavery before the Trans-Atlantic Trade” from the Lowcountry Digital History Initiative (website). 8. Arab & East African Slave Trade; History & Facts, Study.com content by Kayla Armstead, Charles Kinney, Jr. 9. “50 million people in modern slavery: No justification for ‘fundamental’ human rights abuse” published by the United Nations 12 September 2022, currently on the UN website. 10. Modern slavery shoots up by 10 million in five years” 12 September 2022 by David Molloy, BBC News. Notice that the BBC lists 10 million versus the 50 million claimed by the United Nations. 11. “MODERN SLAVERY IN UNITED STATES” Estimated number living in modern slavery: 1,091,000 published on www. walkfree. org 12. “Forced labour, modern slavery and human trafficking” published on the International Labour Organization.

@SecretScholars

4 ай бұрын

Thank you for this

@reesereyes6986

4 ай бұрын

That's a lot of coverage. I'm shocked just by seeing the numbers. I have heard and seen similar news before of my own countrymen suffering modern day slavery. It is appalling. But I think this important news is being drowned by other less important matters most media platforms produce and circulate today. It goes against the Left's narrative and maybe that is why they are trying to silence this.

@peregrine9745

4 ай бұрын

I haven't read the articles (yet), but just a note from parsing article #10 vs #1 - it's "up by" as opposed to "climbs to". So it could be that slavery is up by 10M to a current total of 50M. But now I need to read the articles themselves. Thank you for sharing these. I was ignorant not of the fact of modern slavery, but of the scope.

@cherylporter6086

4 ай бұрын

Thank you for sharing these sources, I too have wanted to understand this a little better. Why as Americans we seem to be obsessed with slavery and wrongs of the past but do very little about learning from and changing that problem today.

@josephsilo187

4 ай бұрын

Keep in mind "slavery" was re-branded by the UN to "human trafficking". The number is even higher than 50 million.

I agree. Engaging with someone who isn't terminally online is a great way to learn from eachother. It's WAY out of the echo chamber here. It's beneficial for both parties involved.

@LeekowalskiWalker

4 ай бұрын

That wasn't the point of the criticism lol that is a non sequitur

@logan-zf2wr

4 ай бұрын

@Leekowalskiwalker I think the commenter is trying to say that, despite the criticisms, the overall (potential) benefit gleaned from these conversations vastly outweighs the issues we may have with the guest. These conversations are very important, and I think we should do our best to have more patience in facilitating them, even if such tact would never be reciprocated. I could be looking at this completely wrong though, just wanted to express my thoughts, and defend what the channels trying to do.

@jcdenton4911

2 ай бұрын

@@logan-zf2wr It's also a great way to latch onto trending online parties and garner views/comments from each of their "fanbases" and make money. Adverts are enabled on these videos. 90% of the 14 year old males watching this type of content are watching on their phones with no idea of ad-blockers and just sit through ads which generate money for the creator. Money.

@jamk2668

4 күн бұрын

How can you not see this is all scripted to a degree? Lol. It's shocking to me that people don't even approach this possibility.

@Lazlo-os1pu

3 күн бұрын

Everyone watching this is highly likely to be terminally online. It’s funny to at and criticise others for being “terminally online” just because they have a different opinion to you, while you’re digging into highly online political communities

I think in an age where the conversation can be so difficult we should reward anyone willing to come to the table, the man off-camera included.

@sooperd00p

4 ай бұрын

It would make sense for a coal miner to have no idea what an SJW is but a university professor should really be a lot more cognizant of pop culture. Engagement alone is a pretty low bar for value, imho. Some people paint on a canvas in their spare time and then other people engage with the contemporary discord of painting. I am a artist...there is zero value in merely existing in the studio. In the summer, there are spiders who have more "engagement" with my studio than I do.

I wouldn't pay too much attention to comment sections. My comments included.

@Nowhy

4 ай бұрын

Now that is a quality comment!

@scottybreuer

4 ай бұрын

Duly noted. I will now paradoxically ignore this comment, thereby demonstrating that I did not, in fact, ignore it.

You can be smart and still come to the wrong conclusions.

@marycrawford9428

4 ай бұрын

Intelligence versus wisdom, Education versus common sense,

@Markielee72

4 ай бұрын

I have worked with some of the smartest yet idiotic people. Intelligence doesn’t make you less prone to taking on bad ideas. It just makes you better at defending them to other people and to yourself. Smart people can believe some truly ridiculous things and then deploy all the reason and logic at their disposal to justify them.

@kurt2612

4 ай бұрын

So true. I am a nerd and I realized that science is only our "current understanding" of limited data. Most of our "facts" are actually based on theories, which is defined as being unproven. Yet academia deems all of their conclusions based on theoretical models as correct to higher education students. We're creating generations of followers and actively participating in suppressing original and creative thinking. It's a problem.

@ShawnMcCool

4 ай бұрын

Intelligence is the weight that you put behind confirming your bias.

@rednarok

4 ай бұрын

I've heard some say the more education you have, the smarter you perceive yourself, the easier it is to convince yourself of false conceptions.

It really is as simple as "They hate the movie because it was a right-winger doing the things" The right-winger could literally cure cancer and leftists would still hate them. I tried to debate Christians for a long time and leftists for a long time. Christians are by far the more open minded and rational group.

@drockopotamus1

4 ай бұрын

What made you lean that way? Was there a particular topic that tipped you toward Christians over whatever leftist is in your view? I'm a Christian liberal (closer to progressive than centrist), if that means anything to you. Just didn't want you to feel this was a disingenuous question.

@SomeCanine

4 ай бұрын

@@drockopotamus1 First off, there's no such thing as a progressive Christian. You're either a Christian or a progressive. You cannot be both. Progressives are consumed with a desire to destroy all establishment types. That makes religion their number one target. Sometimes they will wear religion like a skinsuit but they only ever do it to destroy it from within. As far as the topic at hand, Christians in general I think just aren't used to contentious debate like progressives are so they have more of a normie approach to life. They ask questions and act baffled rather than get mad any time they run up on anyone with an opposing view point. Christianity is more of a way of life to most Christians than a true belief set like progressivism is. Christians get dragged into the life by their parents rather than making the choice for themselves. As such, they are much less likely to push back extremely hard and generally won't give many examples to support their arguments. There are theologians obviously who are far more knowledgeable but for the most part, Christians don't really know what they worship. They are just tribal. I say all that but I should also add that because they aren't so hostile and because they behave better, they tend to come across as much better people. IMO, what you do and not what you say matters more in life.

@j.w.213

4 ай бұрын

you're insulting, not debating.

@taffysaur

4 ай бұрын

@@j.w.213 How did you arrive at that conclusion? Certainly not based solely on the above comment. There’s not enough information to make that assertion.

@SomeCanine

4 ай бұрын

@@j.w.213 Insults are ad-hom attacks. I don't use those. False accusations like this are typical of people who have poor reasoning skills though.

The comment section on most channels is usually a dumpster fire.

@formulaic78

4 ай бұрын

Which is sad cos for those of us with thoughtful opinions it's the only way to express ourselves where more than a couple of people will hear us. Source: author of double digits unsold novels and screenplays!

@MAC...

4 ай бұрын

It depends if the youtuber shadow blocks people... where if blocked, the commenter can comment but no one else can see the comment... Chris Williamson mentioned he does this... with a one strike your out rule... as a result his comment sections are generally more kinder than one would be on some controversial topics..

@formulaic78

4 ай бұрын

@@MAC... That's also unfortunate cos it means channel owners can block people with thoughtful opinions they happen to disagree with, perpetuating the echo chambers.

@laze4534

4 ай бұрын

@@formulaic78 What's the plot of what you'd consider your best novel?

@formulaic78

4 ай бұрын

@@laze4534 it's about a chimp that is cognitively enhanced to the level of a human and then learns what it is to be human.

"...engaging with the idea, not the person." That is what some of us, even after watching and listening to Warren´s first videos and knowing that the "idea" is what it´s all about, are forgetting to do when entering comments.

Organizations against sex trafficking have been around for some time. They have been struggling to get the problem out to the public to garner support and express the need for action. This is not a new topic and the film is certainly difficult to watch, but I'm really glad that people are now giving it their attention.

@jackeagleeye3453

2 ай бұрын

The problem is Tim Ballard is similar to Jussie Smollett, and he takes away from the message of the movie. Like if Jussie Smollett did a movie about the problems with racism, a lot of people would dismiss it because of Jussie's own personal actions, even if the movie itself was good. Same thing is what is going on with Ballard.

@rebeccaruth78

2 ай бұрын

@@jackeagleeye3453 "Ye who is without sin cast the first stone." Regardless of whether or not the allegations are true against Tim Ballard. Human Trafficking does exist. It is happening and these children need to be protected. Smearing the man to bury the message is harming children and women around the world. We need to remember the bigger picture and open our eyes to their suffering. Tim Ballard can take care of himself. These children and women are defenseless. It is time we start getting out priorities straight and give attention where we can truly make a difference.

@jackeagleeye3453

2 ай бұрын

@@rebeccaruth78 I will say everyone knows it is happening, and obviously it needs to be combatted. Tim Ballard is a horrible spokesperson for this subject though, many on the left feel at least, because of his affiliations with Qanon as well as past controversies within his own organization (such as sexually harassing women, exaggerating his accomplishments, and putting his employees in harms way). Tim Ballard accuses democrats, without evidence, of working with sex traffickers.

@Outplayedqt

Ай бұрын

@@jackeagleeye3453I lean slightly towards your side here. Cognitive decoupling allows me to believe that this movie certainly should’ve been made and distributed to raise awareness for such a tragic, worldwide issue, AND they shot themselves in the foot by hiring an actor with such a seedy past. Although I was distressed by the end of the film and certainly wasn’t remotely laughing at the QR code like that streamer was, it reminded me of the NFT fad. Read the room, for Christ’s sake. You made the film, plenty of us enjoyed it - now you’re blasting me with an ad that gives me similarly annoying vibes of a YT ad? I can’t tell whether a C-suite exec or their zoomer child offered up that idea of the QR code. It’s a film, and entirely out of place and inappropriate. just my 2c

@grieffoundation8451

11 күн бұрын

@@jackeagleeye3453 TB’s Jordan Peterson interview was insane. Crazy stats & claims aplenty. And that’s the central issue with TSOF. It makes claims about CSA (an unassailable topic) and then when those claims don’t bear scrutiny critics are called the p-word. Of course cs trafficking exists and of course it is terrible. Slavery bad too. But we have to define those terms. For instance - Ballard (a Mormon) claims the US is the world center of cst. But the US also has a large number of legal child marriages each year - often within minority faith groups. Are those kids trafficked? I

Warren Smith is a gift. Renaissance of the Dead Poet Society.

@Adam-TheLiftedKing

4 ай бұрын

Tradition, Honor, discipline, Excellence

@petercrowley453

4 ай бұрын

Or do you mean “resurrection”?

@Pamela_Lang

4 ай бұрын

💯

My husband and I used to work with nonprofits fighting sex trafficking, specifically of minors, fifteen years ago. Even then, we knew that the number of slaves was higher than it ever had been. My hubby went undercover and filmed sting operations happening in Cambodia and South Africa. One of my best friends growing up was a survivor. What we learned is that unless the evil touches you personally, it is very difficult to accept and change. I remember writing articles for my college newspaper on the rampant selling of minors in Southeast Asia. One man wrote a very long article declaring I was “blowing it out of proportion.” The risk this kind of persistent evil is to our communities is often just too hard for people to bear. But, like Gandalf says in the film version of The Hobbit, it is the small everyday deeds of ordinary folk that keep the darkness at bay. I still believe this with all my heart. I am so so glad I found this channel. It is giving me so much hope for humanity.

@AC-mp7cx

4 ай бұрын

talk about it when it happens in the usa and europe

@scottybreuer

4 ай бұрын

​@@AC-mp7cx It happens here too.

@flappyturtlesnatch

4 ай бұрын

"Let us suppose that the great empire of China, with all its myriads of inhabitants, was suddenly swallowed up by an earthquake, and let us consider how a man of humanity in Europe, who had no sort of connection with that part of the world, would be affected upon receiving intelligence of this dreadful calamity. He would, I imagine, first of all, express very strongly his sorrow for the misfortune of that unhappy people, he would make many melancholy reflections upon the precariousness of human life, and the vanity of all the labours of man, which could thus be annihilated in a moment. He would too, perhaps, if he was a man of speculation, enter into many reasonings concerning the effects which this disaster might produce upon the commerce of Europe, and the trade and business of the world in general. And when all this fine philosophy was over, when all these humane sentiments had been once fairly expressed, he would pursue his business or his pleasure, take his repose or his diversion, with the same ease and tranquillity, as if no such accident had happened. The most frivolous disaster which could befall himself would occasion a more real disturbance. If he was to lose his little finger to-morrow, he would not sleep to-night; but, provided he never saw them, he will snore with the most profound security over the ruin of a hundred millions of his brethren, and the destruction of that immense multitude seems plainly an object less interesting to him, than this paltry misfortune of his own. To prevent, therefore, this paltry misfortune to himself, would a man of humanity be willing to sacrifice the lives of a hundred millions of his brethren, provided he had never seen them?" - Adam Smith

@creatrixZBD

3 ай бұрын

❤

As a 65-year-old woman who has led a very full wife I find you refreshing. It's easy at my age to write off a whole generation but listening to you Has given me a more positive outlook for the future. Best of luck to you with your channel.

@MizJaniceResinArt

4 ай бұрын

I'm 55 and totally agree. I've been sort of ignoring the whole debate a bit, but recently watched what happened at Evergreen State so wanted to understand the conversation better. I'm so glad I found this young man's channel.

@mickadams1905

4 ай бұрын

Nice comment, your typo gave me a chuckle too 😊

@grantsamson2384

4 ай бұрын

Was this wife you speak of very full because you fed her? And where did you lead her to?

@TLouise1959

4 ай бұрын

@@grantsamson2384 If you can't figure out a typo I don't know why you're even on this channel. You probably need to go back to first grade. I use vr because I'm partially blind. Sometimes it gets the words wrong. Good Evening.

@opinion3742

4 ай бұрын

How is it easy to write off a whole generation? Surely that would be the absolute height of idiocy?

How is it the populace knows nothing about the extent of child-trafficking? We have policy makers more concerned about the optics of their team than the truth. When you can’t question policy decisions or their disastrous results, we no longer have policy makers who serve us, we have a royal governance

I personally appreciate your fellow teacher engaging with you in these conversations because I find them interesting so I hope it continues. It’s good to see two people with different viewpoints discussing subjects in a civil, respectful manner.

@Dragons_And_Giants

4 ай бұрын

And that they work together & seem to have the same intention.

Extemporaneously talking is tough, you both need thick skins as the “Internet” is fickle, shallow, petulant and inpatient. Likely those who zing out rude comments have their own issues or simply reflexively comment without thinking too deeply themselves. Many KZreadrs edit their content so slow or meandering answers are weeded out. You’re presenting the material raw. It’s an original and unpolished format which has merit especially because it differs uniquely from other content. Please both of you keep doing what you’re doing. It’s why we watch. If you alter your content to please the complainers (who’ll never be satisfied anyway) you’ll alienate those who like the content thus destroying your product (kind of like what Hollywood has done to itself). Best of luck on your brave new journey.

@QUAKACE

4 ай бұрын

Well said

@dukecity7688

4 ай бұрын

Well said.

I am glad we can all agree that child sex trafficking is absolutely horrific. Even though I don't agree with the other teacher's opinions on other topics. I am glad he is open to the discussions. That's more than I can say for most people. We need more conversations! Thank you💕

@PequaKnight

4 ай бұрын

Those critical to the Sounds of Freedom movie are giving a tactical response to a serious issue. Instead of engaging the points the movie makes, the critics look at the political calculus and attempt to deny any validity to those they deem as the enemy (ie. conservatives)

I am a 59-year old educated in Eastern Europe and in the US. You are likely the most thoughtful person on social media today.

It always blows my mind to find out how many educated people aren't aware of conflict minerals and the slavery and human abuse behind them. Not to mention the human trafficking that takes place worldwide. It shows how well it is covered up and not talked about the way it should be, especially since we all support it as we walk around with smart phones and other technologies we take for granted each day.

@rucker69

4 ай бұрын

especially with the connections to those technologies, i.e. cobalt for batteries

@averagejoeadventure

4 ай бұрын

@@rucker69 Looking at images of cobalt mines in the Congo will make any human with basic empathy sick to their stomach.

The massive amounts of respect you have for others regardless of their perspective is a big part of what I love about these videos. how are we going to find common ground otherwise? We are all to some extent products of whatever societal structure we are born into, with our own bias, wisdom, virtues and ignorance.

It was hard hearing all the hate for this amazing movie that is trying to shed light on human trafficking. How they are attacking Tim now. Absolutely shameful. Destiny sometimes talks sense but also a crap tonne of garbage.

@Mrs_Puffington

4 ай бұрын

Destiny is one of those word-fencers who seem more keen on winning arguments than uncovering truth. The technique is impressive at first, but very shallow when you unpack what is being said. I think it is a defensive strategy, and if I apply Iain McGilchrist's hemisphere hypothesis, it appears to be a very left-hemisphere-driven approach.

@adamthemyth

4 ай бұрын

​He would've been one of the Sophists that Socrates exposed in The Republic 0:10 l​@@Mrs_Puffington

@ShallaBal82

4 ай бұрын

@@Mrs_PuffingtonAgreed. To be fair, I haven't watched much of him, but from the few debates I've seen of his, he tends to talk over, louder, and with more condescension than his "opponents", so he tends to "win" simply because he's toeing the line of bullying. He's kind of like Steven Crowder who could have had such a great thing going with his "Change My Mind" series, but he's just so bad at arguing/debating that it makes the content impossible to watch without finding tons of holes.

@cathymadsen2930

4 ай бұрын

I had followed Tim and OUR on KZread for years before the movie came out. I didn't watch the movie because I had watched the uploads and they broke my heart enough and had told the story of how they were created. When I saw the corporate media, or the media with CIA connections with their presenters, I knew it was an evil response.

@christopher_ecclestone

4 ай бұрын

​@@Mrs_PuffingtonI agree. He's more interested in being right than in being correct.

People are weird. They will click to watch a video where the entire point is to have an honest and respectful conversation about difficult topics, then they will devolve into children and insult the person they disagree with. Ignore those fools. Cheers to you, and to the invisible dude behind the camera 🙏

If CNN was so hell bent on discrediting the movie, it raises the thought, “What is someone or a group within CNN trying to hide?” Are they a part of this sinister situation

@MizJaniceResinArt

4 ай бұрын

The fact that they immediately jumped to "this is about pedophilia in Hollywood and a conspiracy theory" makes me think the same. There's nothing that even Remotely points to that conclusion...not in the movie and not in Any of the discussions of this film that I've seen.

@1faithchick7

4 ай бұрын

One of their former higher ups is a pedo. He tried to get a mom to sell her 14ish year old to him.

@_-.Everlast.-_

4 ай бұрын

It's basically CIA propaganda arm, they need these pedos that do the unimaginable, to do worse, to you.

@christopher_ecclestone

4 ай бұрын

Without doubt. Anytime the mainstream try and shut something or someone down, it's always to hide the truth. And any time they deem something as Misinformation, there's usually some truth in that too. They pretend they're trying to protect us from lies, but it's always to hide the truth.

@muskratdove

4 ай бұрын

It wasn't just CNN, it was the entire machine of the legacy media. And IMDB changed the weightings to pull it down. In Canada, where the agenda is entirely pro-alphabet, the movie was mocked and derided in every possible way. The thought that it raised in MY mind, is that it the tasty rewards that the movie exposed were being pulled from the grasp of those whose fantasies it interfered with...

I believe the reason Destiny behaves this way is because that’s what happens online. People attack you or your arguments, and the easiest way to retaliate is to point out small inconsistencies or minor factual errors, ignoring the bigger picture. This way, they don’t have to engage with the underlying message but can still earn their victory points when their chat/community says, “TRUE”, “GOT EM”. Many people enjoy having ‘gotcha’ moments to boost their ego. I don’t think I’m immune to it either. I believe people are so jaded by reality and suspicious of everything that they question any produced content. They question the message, the reason it was made, and the people presented in the content. It’s a perpetually suspicious mind that believes there’s a cabal of powerful elites pulling every string, that every action has a purposefully malicious intent, and that people aren’t necessarily inherently good. Feeling like there’s no way someone would go out of their way to do good for no benefit of their own. An understanding of how the world works, and that rich and powerful people do manipulate things behind the scenes, creates an extremely wary society. The problem is that it also fuels fears that everything is fake, that everything is manipulative.

"Some men just want to watch the world burn".

I have been harsh on the dude not gonna lie however, i have to give him that he seems good faith. As long as someone is arguing in good faith he is good in my book.

Ballard is a good man.. OUR funding is very limited.. (not sure if OUR has made anything from the film itself.. just increased donations through their website)the work is toxic to any corporate funding.. the idea that slavery is not prevalent in the World is a semantic one where the only version acceptable by the Left (not classical Liberals) is that Chattel Slavery is Worst and therefore the Only type there is. I have spent more than 25 years of my life chasing child abusers, CP creators and human traffickers.. We in the West are able to isolate ourselves by choice, from the ugliness of the World. Distracting ourselves from much of the worst of humanity. To choose Blissful Ignorance is a godsend for many. I am somewhat jealous of that. As someone who has had to uncover, identify, document and present it as evidence.. The subject is very difficult for 99.99% of the population.. many claim they can “Handle It” but once in the depths of it.. to explain what has happened, is happening( to obtain search warrants).. Juries, court reporters, lawyers, witnesses and even bailiffs and judges need frequent breaks, cry openly and sometimes vomit. I don’t talk to anyone outside of LE about any of it.. The mind builds the images when described and the nightmares never stop. I wouldn’t wish mine on anyone. It is a chosen trauma though.. I chose the field.

@saradolansky1891

4 ай бұрын

@WalterPidgeonsForge thank you for taking on child predators. Child s3xual exploitation is part of the dark underbelly of society, even so-called modern societies such as ours. (Psychopathy and f3tishism/deviance seem to exist in all societies, in various parts of the world and throughout time, unfortunately.) Thank you for sharing a little of your experiences working to combat this evilness.

@gailcarey3597

4 ай бұрын

Thank you!🙏

Anything, that highlights the horror of child trafficking, from whatever source - to shine a light, to start the conversation. This is a bad thing in the USA? Why would anybody want to attack a movie that is telling that message?

@cantileveredapotheosis

4 ай бұрын

I would argue that factual accuracy is important. A number of people used the Rolling Stone "A Rape on Campus" as a 'conversation starter' defending the article as having a purpose beyond being a factual treatise on rape. Many people used the article as factual information as an indictment against Cavanaugh, saying that the article had proven gang rapes happen and therefore Cavanaugh could have been involved in one and therefore be blocked from becoming a Justice.

@vladkagreen1824

4 ай бұрын

The perpetrators?!

@saradolansky1891

4 ай бұрын

​@@vladkagreen1824exactly! Those who benefit from the status quo (including from society's overall ignorance/apathy on the realities of child trafficking in North America). Seek to identify those individuals and organizations - particularly those with considerable money and political influence - who stand to lose if child trafficking is seriously exposed and curtailed i.e., child predators, f3tishists, s3xual devi@nts. (They are unfortunately among us, part of society. Some of the most dangerous are at the top of the food chain, so to speak - and want to keep their position.)

@danielreviewsmovies8735

3 ай бұрын

1. It's a dogshit movie. 2. It basically scammed everyone. 3. It's not even an accurate look at everything that happened.

@HankD13

3 ай бұрын

@@danielreviewsmovies8735 Cleary a really bad idea to start a conversation on child trafficking.

It's so refreshing to see someone think critically. I wish it weren't and that it was commonplace, but here we are. Thank you.

"[Destiny] Is very intelligent, though I'm not sure he's wise" D doesn't argue from 30sec clips so if you want to have a chat with Destiny just reach out, he talks to everyone regardless of clout. The point he was making is the framing and timing of the sex trafficking story was being used as a rhetoric indictment of Bideon's Presidency when it didn't happen under his watch at all. Weaponizing outrage from feigned substance. "Ok, is sex trafficking not still happening?" - That wasn't the question he was asked, lets not strawman his position. "So because that example was incorrect, are conservatives wrong to be outraged about sex trafficking?" - Of course not, the weaponization of untruths to manufacture outrage towards Bideon was his contention. "Am I reading that wrong?" - Stripping his answer of nuance by extrapolating 2 underlying questions that weren't being asked I'd argue is intelligent, though I'm not sure was wise.

@tok1879

4 ай бұрын

Well said

@graphikeye

4 ай бұрын

Thank you. The fact that this had to be spelled out is bizarre.

The interview with Jordan Peterson and Jim and the real man behind this movie is one the most moving interviews I ever witnessed. Must see.

I hope you and the other teacher read this. My wife is liberal with some conservative values and I'm conservative with a few liberal values. We agree on a lot of things, and disagree on many things. I think my viewpoints are correct, but so does she. What's great about our relationship is we challenge each other which makes us reevaluate our positions to make sure we are correct in what we believe. Sometimes she's incorrect, and sometimes I am (not often, but don't tell her. Lol). We have both become more informed because of us having to debate our differences and then correct when we're wrong. More importantly, we are a stronger couple than any couple who are either both liberal or both conservative. My weaknesses are her strengths and her weaknesses are my strengths. I disagree with your friend 100%, but I like him. He's respectful open to conversation, and is willing to change his mind if you can show him why your viewpoint is correct. What is there to criticize? Because he sees the world differently? I think the people making those mean comments are NPCs just like the far left. They act in the very same way as the people they complain about. Anytime someone has to resort to name calling and saying rude things about people it's because they're not intelligent enough to make comments to refute anything the other teacher said thst they dont agree with.

I think it is so important to have open and honest respectful conversations with people who have different perspectives and opinions. Thank you both for letting us into your conversations.

I think there's something here about viewing life through the lens of Idealism vs. Practicality.

@chrissy7388

4 ай бұрын

This should be the next debate topic

@susanzeidler3960

4 ай бұрын

Or utopia and reality

@delirob8721

4 ай бұрын

I agree. I think that's a topic worth exploration with these two.

Warren, some of the comments are harsh. But, the level of detachment from common things like not knowing what an SJW is or not understanding what a "quotable line" is, makes me question how the guy can be taken seriously. Unless of course he just recently came out of an old order Amish community or a Hasidic community in Williamsburg.

@chadpyle

4 ай бұрын

Yeah, I don't think he's being intellectually honest. He can't be so old or so young that he doesn't know what sjw means

@digit861

4 ай бұрын

Exactly. Regardless of how nice and humble he is- how many people would pick him to teach their children?

@tysondanby2525

Ай бұрын

I have brought up this terminology (SJW) to people my age (college), and I would say about half of them do not know what it means. It's hard to realize when terms such as these are used so prevalently online, but terms like "SJW" really are a sort of jargon.

Persuading people can result in something positive. Lambasting people is counterproductive.

@sooperd00p

4 ай бұрын

Disagree. You persuade a child to potty on their own. You absolutely lambast a fellow adult when their ideology has proven to be seriously harmful. And still, the adult remains steadfast in his or her way of thinking. If you think that's some sort of one-sided shouting match...that's just you. The definition of lambasting is: harsh criticism. I was in grad school fine arts program recently...lambasting was our other major. no shouting, some hurt feelings, and then some great work.

@graceygrumble

4 ай бұрын

@@sooperd00p There are other definitions and none of them are pleasant if you are on the receiving end. Mud-slinging, insults and lies have become common parlance in the political world. People are entrenched in their positions, producing heat but no light. Is that not divisive? I think the divisive nature of political discourse is a problem. If you disagree, I'd just ask you to look around.

I went to see the movie in a theater to bear witness to the horrible truth of child trafficking.

This is the first video I have watched. So I’m coming from an outside perspective. The off camera guy is right to not bother reading the negative offensive comments. They pollute the conversation. If I don’t agree with something you say I will say what I don’t agree with and give my contrasting opinion politely with intent for both parties to learn something. Unfortunately there’s a lot of mean people on line and who knows what AI is doing.

I love the speed with which this channel is growing! I seems that young people - and older ones too - are absolutely robbed of real discussion that allows us to share perspectives, and to grow, and to change our minds, grow our characters. I'm very grateful to all the people who patiently listened to some of my dumbest ideas over the decades and asked me smart questions that caused me to change my own mind. Critical thinking and discernment are skills that we must all be exposed to, and learn, and most importantly, practice.

Yay for longer videos! More!

He will literally talk to anyone, just provide detail. His Discord, Twitter, and email on his website are all ways you can contact him.

That looked like the best iced coffee ever!!!!

That human trafficking and child abduction is happening anywhere in the world is distressing enough. To think there could be such a divergence of perspectives is bewildering. The “influencer”, was bizarre ; the emotionality, the venal motives he ascribed to the films producers, the insults……… wow

There is a little known Black Sabbath album called Dehumanizer that came out in 1992. The song “master of insanity“ is quite prescient for our times. It’s like the negation of wisdom is an operating concept/goal in the control of social milieu. A maxim that all actions of this kind follow regardless of the perpetrator’s awareness of it. Negate all wisdom, and ye shall have control and power! Say it with me “I am the vine and you are my branches“. Be as gods!

There is no Q Anon - there is Q and there are Anons. Your off-camera teacher friend suggested that Adrenochrome had been debunked, and perhaps he was referring to Pizzagate as well. He's wrong. The term "follow the white rabbit" is in reference to the chemical composition of the drug. Aldous Huxley wrote about it; Alice in Wonderland was undoubtedly inspired by the author's experience of the drug; it's also featured in a famous scene in the Jonny Depp movie "Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas". There is a synthetic version, but the body produces it when under extreme stress. Satanic Secret Societies are said to extract Adrenochrome, by torturing humans into releasing adrenalin into their blood, and then drinking it. Blood rituals are nothing new - they were practiced by ancient cults and were said to give them increased life, or immortality on some level. The "street name" for Adrenochrome is "Ambrosia" - the food or drink of the Greek gods, often depicted as conferring longevity or immortality upon whoever consumed it. As for Pizzagate, the 4 journalists that exposed the elite pedophile network connected to celebrities, politicians, billionaires all died mysteriously. And Efrem Zelony-Mindell, a former VICE reporter - the one who supposedly debunked the story - was recently sentenced to 90 months in prison for possession of distributing sickening child rape videos and photographs. Draw your own conclusions....

@gianni_schicchi

4 ай бұрын

What’s the chemical molecular structure

@delirob8721

4 ай бұрын

I won't say you're wrong, because no one has learned how to prove a negative. Every one of the claims you're making require pure conjecture. This is not a great way to convince people with the most basic tendency toward critical thought.

@DRP3ck3r

4 ай бұрын

And you can read Q's drops and think for yourself

@looking-glass135

4 ай бұрын

@@DRP3ck3r Yes, exactly 😊

@looking-glass135

4 ай бұрын

@@gianni_schicchi C9H9NO3

Guys. I wouldn't pay respect to disrespectful comments. You guys are having a respectful conversation. That's what important. Don't waste your time on name calling. I always say, those that resort to name calling have already lost the argument. Keep powering on. and don't take these comments to heart.

I think its BC Tim Ballard was working W/The UN when Corporate media was covering it. To go into different countries W/a team of specialists, to help save Children. He quickly realized the UN wasn't wanting to help save any children after all, and he then had to fund the operation to save the children himself

It all comes down to each individuals core motivation. Most left leaning motives come from the pursuit of pleasure. Most right leaning motives come from personal responsibility. Everything stems from either root cause.

If you can’t keep your arguments civil then you don’t deserve to be included in a debate with other people

@LeekowalskiWalker

4 ай бұрын

Incorrect

@LeekowalskiWalker

4 ай бұрын

You can't dismiss a point because you don't like how it was presented. Maybe you chose not to debate with that person but it doesn't stop them being right.

@NoBody-hw6se

4 ай бұрын

Civility is wasted on clowns.

@mpmedia6735

4 ай бұрын

@@LeekowalskiWalkerI don't think op stated anything about the correctness about the position.

@NadyoSadyo

4 ай бұрын

Tell that to Trump 🙂

I absolutely love listening to these conversations. Even when I disagree with one or the other, I am made to think deeply about my own opinions and ideas about the subject. Especially when I disagree.... Love it

"Your perspective is valuable because it's shared by a large number of people" is exactly why all other political/social/commentary channels fall flat when it comes to bridging the divide between different minded people, the disregard and ridicule of those who do not share your opinion

I think the big mistake we make in public conversations is we speculate why & where people are coming from. We all stop listening once we feel unseen

I appreciate that you engage with someone you love and respect, and don’t share, or need to share, every perspective with. I have attended community college and trade schools, lots of self directed learning, but have not felt that I could get an actual liberal arts education… grammar, logic, rhetoric… and then the quadrivium, from any place I have the time or money to attend. You, your friend, and others educators publishing digital media are helping weirdos like me out here, hungry for the conversation. Thank you 🙏

I appreciate the invisible teacher 😊 Without him this is not possible. Why has it become so hard to listen to opposing viewpoints. Let’s normalize these good faith conversations. PS: Can we have some shorts from these videos 😊

Keep up the good work Warren, much love brother keep workin

Watching this channel is nice because it gets away from what is going on today and shows what real discussions should be and used to be like, many many years ago, between two people. No yelling and no trying to cut each other off. It is nice to listen to this. Also, the gentleman behind the camera is fine. You have your beliefs but you also show you are open to conversation with an open mind just like the gentlemen on camera

I love the content you're putting out, you were needed here!

Ooh yes - Steven and Warren need to have a sit down and chat: I guarantee that would make an extremely fascinating conversation. You’re both exceptionally observant and logical; you’d be watching each other’s side of the conversation as much as your own and the breakdown of each others characters by one another would be truly entertaining and educational to watch. 🙏🙌☀️

I made the comment along the lines "sad part is this is a teacher" and I'll try and defend my comment. Some years ago before the obvious failure within our education system from K thru college became apparent to most, I had a conversation with a retired teacher that was running for office about education in my area. This teacher was all for eliminating gifted programs and putting those kids back in the standard classroom. Their reasoning was that doing that, would allow the gifted kids to help the low performing kids and thus bring up the low performers. I pointed out that doing so would bring down the gifted kids at the same time. They acknowledged this as a correct statement. I further pointed out that doing so would mean mediocrity for all students. They were fine with this. The reasoning and rationality they displayed was displayed in the video I commented on. Now, if this unseen person is there to Steelman the opposing view and doesn't truly believe what is said, I retract my comment and acknowledge they are doing a superb job.

@fadedglory1045

4 ай бұрын

Public school is child abuse 🤦🏼‍♀️

@M.D.M.X

4 ай бұрын

Not knowing that retired teacher's reasonings, I do agree in a way. Here's why I think it wouldn't be the simple conclusion of "mediocrity for all" as a result: -- In contemplating the integration of gifted students within regular education settings to facilitate mutual improvement, it is crucial to adopt a nuanced perspective on attributions and outcomes. The notion of mediocrity arising from such integration overlooks the multifaceted benefits that can be derived when diverse individuals/talents intersect. Firstly, the measure of success should not be confined to a singular lens but should embrace the unique viewpoints that different individuals bring. Placing gifted students alongside their peers doesn't inherently diminish their abilities. Rather, it fosters an environment where talents are harnessed collaboratively, not competitively or separately. Moreover, the conventional idea of educational improvement may not fully encapsulate the potential gains for gifted students. Rather than solely focusing on academic advancement, considerations should extend to fostering a sense of belonging, social integration, and the opportunity to apply their intellect in meaningful ways. Like any other talented individual, whether in sports or otherwise, recognition and appreciation for their contributions are pivotal for their holistic development. In this collaborative model, both groups stand to benefit. Gifted students gain opportunities for social interaction and inclusion, while regular students receive valuable guidance and insights. By leveraging each other's strengths to address weaknesses, both groups are enriched in ways that are meaningful and relevant to their respective needs. Ultimately, the integration of gifted students into mainstream education can lead to a holistic enhancement of all involved, where it truly matters.

@j.brandon7402

4 ай бұрын

@@M.D.M.X It does not "diminish their abilities", it doesn't allow them to use them to their fullest. Gifted students to not need to be placed with other students for "social interaction". What makes you think they don't socialize or that the classroom is their only opportunity to do so? Gifted students are more often a part of clubs and volunteering as well.

@reddirtwalker8041

4 ай бұрын

@@M.D.M.X Nice speech but no. Education like sports as an example improves the person through being challenged. Not arguing that some social aspect may be gained, but excellence in either isn't about social.

@M.D.M.X

4 ай бұрын

@@j.brandon7402 They can still do that what would've been given to them without separating them and as you said they're often a part of clubs and volunteering that can just as easily be utilized towards their fullest. While also having the opportunity to use their intellect in a helpful way. It's not like they'd be teaching the classes, so how is potentially assisting sometimes gonna prevent their potential? Kind of dramatic, no? As for socializing, being forced into a small isolated bubble (classes/clubs) with a few others you just share some arbitrary intellect level with is very limited and creates a severe disconnect with most of the population, the sense of not belonging and the potential believe that that is the only thing worthy about yourself shouldn't be worth the couple hours a week at most that they may have spend on helping out.

Thank you so much for your content, truly. I keep getting recommendations from KZread for the most negative, divisive, and sensationalist content, and I'm tired of seeing it. I appreciate your delivery, open-mindedness, inquisitiveness, and altogether calm demeanour more than I could ever put into words.

What I like about your videos is the insight into how others might perceive issues. In a way you show how to bridge that gap. I think what is frustrating from both sides is how to understand where and how they come to the conclusions they represent. It's very refreshing to hear and see this.

There is great value in your conversations. Speaking for myself, I never get to hear someone like this in the real world although i read their comments every day on social media. I have to live by their rules because they vote. This is what is most terrifying.

Scrolling the comments here so far overwhelmingly positive. The hateful comments are people that hate themselves.

Warren the fact that you are able to articulate the way i appoach a situation (both you and I obviously) , is very helpful for me.

I think a huge part of the audience’s harsh reaction to the people off screen in these videos is not knowing enough of the context of who they are and under what circumstances they have agreed to speak to you. A brief contextualising introduction would help frame these conversations a lot and knowing that this person is a friend of yours will soften the criticisms.

Please!! Keep on doing what you guys are doing! Only two people have managed to grab my attention - one was Jordan Peterson because he was the first high profile person who admitted in an interview that he is wrong about something - and the second is you

On the slavery issue raised near the beginning of the video; weather or not the numbers today are greater than any time in history... if the numbers are even close, that in and of itself should be hair-raising. The argument over weather todays numbers actually exceed historical numbers seems ridiculous. That this issue is _not_ more widely known and discussed in public spaces, by news organizations, educational institutions, governments, etc does raise certain... questions.

@liz9284

4 ай бұрын

I don’t know that there’s an “argument” about the numbers, I think the point is more about how we’re supposed to be move “civilized” today, we were supposed to have “progressed”, yet there are more ppl in slavery now than before. So society hasn’t progressed, it’s just found new ways to enslave ppl. I also think statement about the numbers is a way for ppl to frame their outrage about it. Or it should be anyway. If ppl are outraged by a couple hundred thousand African slaves (I can’t remember the exact number, maybe a little more or less than that) in the US a few centuries ago, then they should care about slavery today as well. I think the numbers give perspective so that can’t dismiss modern slavery as easily as they might otherwise, bc it would be easy to think that it couldn’t be that bad in modern society.

@BlackSilver23

4 ай бұрын

@@liz9284 I absolutely agree. I guess I just feel that the raw number, itself, should be enough to motivate people. A brief search just produced a number between 40 and 50 million people. That is outrageous. Of course, there probably begins an argument about what constitutes slavery, comparisons between "chattel slavery" and other forms of involuntary servitude, etc. Nevertheless, it is a conversation worth having, and I am consistently amazed that the issue is not more broadly known.

"How could there be such different reactions?" is a wonderful point to explore. It can be easy to jump to comparing different points without looking at the varied extremity of reactions as its own topic. That really helps us look the state of culture over all.

Interesting points and quotable lines.... Thanks for putting out this video

If someone is willing to have the discussion without flinging insults, they should be given the same respect. I love insults. I'm not afraid to give or receive them. But we have allowed it to get out of hand, to a point where people just use it to duck or dodge engaging with the point a person is trying to make. Everything is superficial and tactical anymore, and it is by design. Major media sources COULD NOT SURVIVE without strawman, being deliberately obtuse, talking over people, dishonest portrayals. This prevents problems from being solved, because they do not want problems solved. They want them amplified and multiplied. Haven't we had enough of that?

YMS is hard captured by a set of prescriptive ideals that reacts to topics that are considered conservative in anyway. It’s similar to the vitriol I remember seeing from KZread personalities riding the Atheism wave in the 2010’s, especially from those that were raised in very religious households. “Fanatical,” is the word that comes to mind.

It's not a quote, it's data... this is the deception of this world. Glad to hear of the engagement.

Best video yet besides the viral one... keep up the hard work

Sweet first video, this will be nice to listen to while doing some cleaning.

The discussion method is deceptively in depth. If Warren was speaking with someone who was not his friend, I would expect a more defensive, obstructive confrontation. This process was able to cover more ground through the question and answer format.

Still believe he's a bit- under qualified. I've never had an educator in my life sound so insecure and unsure of critical thinking. Glad he's open to debating and growing, but the lack of knowledge and CT skills are concerning as this is the biggest issue we have right now is educators not getting proper educations in order to teach our children thinking skills and not ideology. Glad he's your friend and you guys can do this but doesn't change the fact that one of you is exactly what kids/teens need and one of you is much further behind.

I’m not sure what constitutes “wise”. I think there are lots of different interpretations of what is wisdom and what is folly. I saw Candace as unwise and condescending when disrespecting Destiny’s lifestyle choices that go against many societal norms. I don’t know much about his ex wife but he is probably very high in openness to new experiences and so there’s a good chance he was willing to try to be in a relationship with someone who might ultimately cause him stress because he saw an opportunity for a unique experience. I don’t think it’s unwise to try something that most people wouldn’t. Geniuses often engage in behaviors that most people wouldn’t. Navigating the world differently is often strongly correlated with genius because geniuses think differently. It’s what allows them to see what others don’t. Was Einstein wise in his social relationships? Many would say no. As for the clip on Piers, all of those guys had short hot takes. Destiny had the least obnoxious take. Piers Morgan isn’t a show designed for well-considered conversations. He’s probably not wise in every context but he’s certainly not a fool in every context and does seem to think deeply about certain topics. I’m left of center and I had a conversation about the border with conservatives a few days ago. I asked them to explain their concerns. One of them was the sex trafficking across the border. I asked them how many people were being trafficked and they said no one knew because the trafficked aren’t easily discoverable. I am a numbers person. I’m persuaded by magnitudes. If no one has any idea the magnitude of the problem, how am I supposed to rate its importance in relation to other problems facing our country? People might say that if even one child is trafficked, it should be a problem for us to take seriously. Okay, but how seriously? Because children will be trafficked no matter what we do. If we stop them at the border, that doesn’t mean they won’t be trafficked. I think there is a purpose for people to have different kinds of brains. I’m not easily persuaded by emotion and I get annoyed when people try to convince me of a big problem by appealing to my emotions. I feel like I’m being manipulated and I don’t trust the information. I am persuaded by facts and figures but there are plenty of people who find my approach to categorizing the importance of problems using a sort of numerical triage as cold. It doesn’t at all mean that I am cold though. It just means I want to direct my limited emotional energy to the right problems that I can help solve. My utter pragmatism can seem very heartless to others but I just think differently. I recognize in Destiny a similar rejection of emotional appeals in favor of numerical triage. That doesn’t make him unwise. The world needs both the number brains and the emotional brains.

You’re 36? I thought you were in your 20s. Great genes.

@Gengh13

4 ай бұрын

Don't underestimate lifestyle, booze, cigarettes and plastic surgery ages you a lot.

The movie hit me because I've specialized with sex traffic victims in the center of the county where most victims are grabbed. It's a billion plus dollar game. Most of the kids you'd find in NY came from Kansas. It's the center heartbeat of USA and sex trafficking. It's typically recruiters however- not someone snatching them from a van like movies show you. A friend or new bf who makes promises or in foster care- a promise to get them out and on their feet. They brainwash them that they're taken care of and loved. It's a brilliant evil scheme that works too well. Many victims after the fact continue to try and get themselves into bad and dangerous situations because- like a program on a computer- they program them. It's heartbreaking. I come off harsh with your colleague because having worked with kids for years- this isn't someone who would cut it. At all.

Hey man as long as you are trying to make people think for themselves you are doing great work. Help people get out of the following without thoughts

Wouldn’t it be more productive to discuss the many civil comments directed towards each of you? The thing I like most about the discussions is the civility and lack of ad hominem attacks yet the focus when it comes to audience push back is completely centered around the uncivil responses. I’ve read through comments on multiple videos and see plenty of valid points, arguments, and opinions. A constructive criticism such as what is the other teachers process of reaching a conclusion or what level of evidence would need to be presented to you to change your mind on a certain subject would be quite valuable not just for the “content” but for him as a person. It’s great to challenge beliefs but pushing someone to examine how and why they’ve come to hold certain opinions forces them to look at the overall manner and mechanisms with which they process information.

youre crushing it man. These people cant stay logically or morally consistent.

You’re right- no one should belittle anyone willing to have these earnest conversations

I’m a fan of the dude you’re interviewing 🤙 glad to hear him talk about the comments etc.

Man, I wish you had more subscribers. Maybe soon. Forcing people to think is such a lost art. I have my own strong opinions on matters, but why not take a step back and think about it with the mindset of "you might just be wrong?" You are doing excellent work, Mr Smith.

@JoATTech

4 ай бұрын

He got 30k new subs within a week ... I guess he can reach million end of the year :D. Unless "algorithm" decides not to propose his channel to anyone ;).

@WhoFlungDung

4 ай бұрын

Yeah, this is just the beginning of his discovery. He will only grow.

Try not to get lost in the hatred of trolls. Keep doing what you are doing because it is genuine. People are watching and listening because of this not in spite of it.

Congrats for hitting 60k🎉🎉🎉 it’s going up fast❤❤❤ Can we have a name for the off-camera guy? Or a nickname?

I have been trying to talk to people about this issue for over a decade. No one cares. Or It makes them too uncomfortable to engage with. Honestly i never had as little faith in humanity as when i started trying to get people engaged. I do understand on some level it being "too dark" ... but the audacity of your mental well being is more important than these kids lives is wild. People like their rose covered glasses.

I hope you go on Tim Pool’s culture war podcast

@mybrainhurts3727

4 ай бұрын

Warren and Ana Kasparian would be an interesting combo for that show.

This movie was produced in part by people that have right, leaning beliefs. That alone will polarize and remove critical thinking from the other side.

@1faithchick7

4 ай бұрын

Which is stupid. I watch right and left leaning shows. That doesn't determine the truth of the story. The truth is the truth, the story is well done or it isn't.

I value the example of a respectful conversation. Truly as viewers, we lack a mountain of context within which to ‘judge’ a conversation such as the one starting this video. One can appreciate the art of conversation and simultaneously critique the demonstrated opinion of the off camera person. What was concerning in the video referenced, were the unconscious judgements being brought to light (hence a critique of him teaching & grading students) I appreciate and enjoy the conversation all the more - its valuable to show civil critical discourse. Thank you.

Warren's conversation partner is not an 'SJW stereotype' to my mind, that would suggests someone on the cutting edge of progressive activist ideology, and he does not appear to be either an activist or to be closely following activist ideology. Rather I think he's a very typical 'default progressive'. He holds precisely the types of beliefs that I would expect from a liberal arts education in a deep blue state. Many of those beliefs he has probably not examined in great depth before (everyone around him holds the same beliefs), and certainly he is not as rigorously logical as Warren, but he seems intelligent and genuine. It is inevitable that an unprepared statement of his positions will lean a bit on emotion and lack rigorous logic, but then, these are conversations with a focus on critical thinking, not formal debates. And the better for it, TBH. Formal debates have a nasty tendency to turn into Gish Gallup wars, i.e. listing off as many *alleged* facts to make as many disparate points as possible to support a position, in the hopes that the opponent will not be able to refute all of them due to lack of time or lack of preparation. It's not an exercise in logic at all, but in scoring points either with third party observers by attempting to make your opponent look foolish, or else actual points with judges in debate societies. The conversations are much better explorations of ideas than more typical debate formats, if we have any interest in either getting closer to the truth or refining our ability to consider today's societal problems logically.

@slatanek

4 ай бұрын

The teacher seems like a normie NPC type, closed off in a CNN bubble.

@BjoernLewin

2 ай бұрын

so, are you trying to analyse this for us now 🙄

As a teacher myself from the left I’d be happy to chat with you

It’s not surprising there might be more enslaved people today than at any other age. We’re 8 billion people on this planet right now. In the Roman Empire we could count for an estimate that goes from 10 million to ~20 max, enslaved people at its peak. For the Atlantic slave trade it’s around 12 million. In comparison today’s estimate it’s 50 million. 1 in 150 people… it’s chilling. Obviously in certain areas it will be more/less prevalent than others. But still. In comparison, you have less chances of being killed by a shark, a cop, cancer or heart attack (leading cause of death worldwide). Edit: is so shocking how some people are so in denial of slavery today. I would understand if it was a matter of numbers but… it’s just crazy. Although I had a flatmate who didn’t believe organised crime and mafias were “still a thing” today.

I got stuck on "quotable lines". It's a term used by people doing superficial literary analysis; a way of summarizing a character or a plot. It's become popular with screenplays and movies. Movies are often criticized as having "no quotable lines". Characters in movies "connect" and fall in love by reciting quotable lines they both love. Someone can compliment you by saying "that's a quotable line" about something you said, meaning you a very deep and worthy of being portrayed in a movie. The people who accused you of that appear to be saying the opposite, that you are "fake" and "not real", like something in the very fake movies they probably watch too much of. They're trying to say you are an actor in a movie reciting lines written by someone else. A lot of people react to learning something new, especially if it challenges it destroys their deeply held beliefs, by pretending that it's not real and creating elaborate constructs to make it appear unreal.

The interesting thing is the way they asked people to “pay it forward” with tickets was already a method Angel Studios had in place before this release. They did the same thing with The Chosen season 3 premiere that was in theaters and they’ve done it with The shift and Cabrini and Dallas Jenkins continued the same model with The Chosen Season 4 under his new company. In a world where crowd funding is used to by pass the corporate oligarchs this isn’t weird. They may have had real world stats and passion behind the subject matter of Sound of Freedom but the criticism of “get all your friends to see it” is not unique to this film in independent media or even Hollywood. Hollywood also wants you to get all your friends to see their movie.

Even though I may not agree with both of you completely, I respect both of you greatly for getting on the internet and letting it know what you think. It takes bravery to take all the hate of the millions that only have the internet to be their friend. Also note stop cutting context from things it makes you look manipulative.

Im guessing that was YMS i actually enjoyed his stuff havnt watched him much lately but even some more recent critiques i enjoyed. It seems with this movie he really didnt think critically about it at all. I saw sound of freedom about 2 months back and enjoyed it wholeheartedly, i didnt even really see a political agenda about it at all… other than the guy mentioning god a good bit but from what ive seen of the guy the main character is based on thats seems accurate to his character. The movie did make me uncomfortable in moments but overall it was a great movie and politics wernt really in it at all.. i dont understand Adam’s reaction to it. Like he doesnt shy away from criticizing shitty liberal plots in shows like 13 reasons why… Idk im gay and as a young teenager it was cool coming across YMS who is a gay movie critic who wasnt afraid to make non pc jokes about movies, its unfortunate to see his shitty handling of this movie.

I am so inspired by you sir. Appreciate all you do. Thank you I also like your fellow teacher/friend. I like the blind side view. Very interesting. 2nd fan!

I watched Destiny few times. He's very good in winning arguments. But it does not mean he's always right but his skilled in linguistics and for sure read Schopenhauer's "The Art of Being Right (Eristische Dialektik)", so usually wins the argument because his opponent is just weaker in battling with words. But I've also seen some of his earlier "work" - for example video where he forces a girl to a sex act. So I'd say he does not practice what he preaches. I lost respect for him seeing his behaviour outside the discussion panels.

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This never happened. Either stop lying or being so gullible. Destiny is good faith. People hate him because he is liberal and pro Israel. He humiliates Nazis and lefties online so has many enemies. Just call into stream if you want to talk, he's very open. Go in with good faith and he'll be nice.

Warren you need a player that IS well informed.