So, have you felt the good pain of Desperate Explorers yet?

@Shadenir

Жыл бұрын

This was the first empire I tried after First Contact dropped. Really enjoyed it!

@destrinbriar1019

Жыл бұрын

Small tips for this. Doomsday can be great if you build a few science ships and exit the first blackhole system you find. If you get worm, you can restore your homeworld to tombworld with buffs. Turn eco and you get infinite alloys. For the pops, colonize the bad worlds with the tradition with 1 extra pop and move them home as they slowly spawn and drop a gene clinic asap. Adds pop growth and habitability on the bad pops. Build a city or two to increase housing and add clerks because they dont get penalties and you will keep things in check with the extra energy and pop growth. Throw a few robots down and you can either move them and a few pops to a planet to be a vassal or keep em as pops for spiritualist as they have 100% habitability.

@iikkuowo6735

Жыл бұрын

yes, i tried to make it even better by giving myself non adaptive to really make it so i cant be picky, used barbaric despoilers too for the reputation hit, the only hospitable planet i could take was in the middle of an empire that hated me and i managed to claim it before they did, it was a great ride

@jebbus132

Жыл бұрын

Careful there ASpec, your Slaanesh is showing

@asteropax6469

Жыл бұрын

Got the mirror event which led to my homeworld getting duplicated. No doomsday modifier on the duplicate. Thank the gaming gods for that.

Me: "Oh it's the hand image... will ASpec say it?" A few seconds later ASpec: "This is a hand, not a spaceship"

@A_Spec

Жыл бұрын

It's a tradition now

@isaacgorski6054

Жыл бұрын

My brain still refuses to see the hand. Desperately. I long for those days again

@Ian501st

Жыл бұрын

​@@isaacgorski6054 Me too

@championsgaming1

Жыл бұрын

Its ruined my perception of that image forever now 🤣

@samueltrusik3251

Жыл бұрын

HERESY! It is a burned spaceship!

I think it would've been interesting if the Subspace tech tree worked backwards for ship classes. You start out with massive battleship-style ships and have to unlock smaller ships along the way as you miniaturize the technology needed for FTL travel.

@starhalv2427

Жыл бұрын

Game economy demands otherwise, but feel free to make it a mod.

@SneakyThePagan

Жыл бұрын

that sounds like a hella cool mood, and with some modifiers, might actually even end up being balanced if i dont forget i might look into making this myself

@benrodir2

Жыл бұрын

Would be nice, Battleships in space never make sense, they would be giant targets, imagine losing 50,000 people with one reactor hit. Feels like corvettes with jump drives would rule the universe.

@angermacfadden2702

Жыл бұрын

Would need a whole line of undergunned battleships until a real navy gets evolved

@angermacfadden2702

Жыл бұрын

​@@benrodir2 It would all come down to missiles anyhow really. Any non missile weapons would be mainly for anti missiles.

at 18:16 imagine that, you are living in an arid world full of sand and rough conditions to live in, and just in the next orbit there is a paradise world that you could've been born on, but your species didn't evolve there, damn that is such a bummer

@JB-xl2jc

Жыл бұрын

I wonder if that would have massive impact on their spaceflight development. I mean just imagine that instead of our Mars, Mars was instead a lush perfect planet. We would probably be much more open to space travel and colonization. Fascinating

@_apsis

Жыл бұрын

species are built for the situations they find themselves in, so i doubt the species would have a problem living in the environment they’re used to being in

@hherpdderp

Жыл бұрын

​@@_apsis Yeah a dessert species reaction to finding a lush jungle planet is probably similar to stepping on seaweed.

@N0TYALC

Жыл бұрын

Arid, sandy conditions aren’t rough to creatures that evolve in such conditions.

@_apsis

Жыл бұрын

@@N0TYALC ^^^^^

I love that Dacha's modus operandi is literally "I'll give you $100 to fuck off"

@A_Spec

Жыл бұрын

That's what I was going to say in the video but KZread don't like Dem words.

I went "Eager Purifier" instead. They just couldn't wait to get out there and purge some xenos.

@therealspeedwagon1451

Жыл бұрын

I really should do that. Let’s just say they always had an idea that other alien life exists among the stars and that they are destined to exterminate that life by any means necessary.

Tried this, had to invade a primative world and then transfer all my pops. True XCOM ish moment trying to take a space age world with like 4 rushed armies

@marcusaustralius2416

Жыл бұрын

I had the same experience My homework detonated perhaps 3 years later, it was brutal

@terrykrugii5652

Жыл бұрын

I had a similar experience prior to the First Contact DLC. I got lucky and had to deal with bronze age primitives though, so I did not suffer nearly as much

My first Campaign with this, I was playing Starburst Galaxy, and spawned on one of those long, spindly hyper-lane routes. Thing was, the lanes were so long, I *COULD NOT* jump to the Main Galaxy. So I was stuck with 2 low-habitability planets until I could research Hyper-Drive Tech (which I fortunately got in the starting roll, but still took years). And then I find myself boxed in, with a neighbor that had habitable planets. On the bright side, I was able to get past Raiders, which had cut of a section of stars, with the subspace ships, and found a planet that was my class! Perfectly protected, unless the Khan comes from them.

I love how, after ASpec desperatley searches for a world to live on and barely finds it in the form of a throwaway world, a Relic World and another Gaia spawn right next to him just as a Galactic Middle Finger.

One thing I love to do With Domesday is with the Gigastructural Engineering Mod. After the planet explodes I G.L.U.E. it back together. Then use the Geo Stabilizer to make it colonizable Terraform it back to its original planet type. And finally move my capital back to it.

@l0rf

Жыл бұрын

A big F you and uno reverse card to the universe, a clear statement of your superiority. I'm fully behind this.

@Talon1124

Жыл бұрын

I have a new challenge run for myself now thankee.

@OriginalUnjustifier

Жыл бұрын

"Your planet's gonna asplode, you need to leave right n-" "No." "Pardon?" "I said no." *undooms your planet*

@pauloaraujo5156

Жыл бұрын

or using the worm to reassemble your doomed planet. quite poetic

@erichawman8483

Жыл бұрын

One of the first empires I created was a Doomsday origin to test it. Soon as I got the Gigastructures mod, I ran them through it just to do this. Perfect redemption.

This First Contact content is really enabling some new fun eager stuff.

"I'm sorry politicians... I'm out of influence, and you caused this climate chaos in the first place, so you get to stay on the planet you ruined... have fun!"

A second part would be very welcome! I want to try it with normal empires, but I've had the idea of also using Rogue Servitors. The robots will be fine, but your biotrophies will need a suitable world. And going back to an old doomsday hivemind build of mine, with a consciousness that evolved on a dying world, this civic would work really well there.

Starting as Eager Explorer Bulwark under Imperial Fiefdom origin is pretty OP. Overlord be like: Here NASA have some destroyers.

@john-vince5311

Жыл бұрын

that image is now stuck in my head lol.

Man it’s like you sampled a piece of the new candy and now your about to consume the whole bowl 😁

@A_Spec

Жыл бұрын

OMNOMNOMNOM

@side-beeetaloniswolfwolfac4179

Жыл бұрын

Apparently Aspec has gone all in on the Prethoryn diet of COMSUME.

See after your Eager Explorer's video I made a Corticeptic Drones Eager Explorers Hivemind with Slingshot To The Stars so I could move out and quickly find the systems that grant me my bio fleets and take them for only 5% of the normal distance upcost.

Thank you so much Apec for this! I liked this interesting start. Please do continue this as a play through and explore the wider galaxy. I would like to see how you build up to be a galactic power from this start!

Would love to see more of this play through. It looks fun. Especially the fun discovering you had Cybrex the whole time..

I wish they would create a Planetless Civic, basically what the Quarian Fleet did in ME in Stellaris where they have to recover damaged or destroyed ships and salvage them or rebuild them as they make their way through the Galaxy and instead of Districts, they have certain Ships being Special and Significant. I.E. (Flagship, Greenhouse, Research, Patrol, and Scouts) Flagship is essentially your Capital. Greenhouse is your Food via Hydroponics. Research is self-explanatory. Patrol is Military and Combat Ships. and Scouts are Science Ships. @Aspec thoughts?

> "Are we going to take the hyperdrive.... of course we are not!" This is the moment you had me.

This makes me long for the yonder days of when we had 3 different starting ftl drives to pick from.

A very thematically accurate flag.

I just did a game with this civic, Toxoid, Void Dweller & Incubators, it was a great combination. Starting with 10 less pop wasn't an issue because with Incubators you have bonus grown with fewer pops & because habitats have small max pop your Incubator growth bonus only drops from +30 to +16 on a maxed out habitat world. Too bad my game gets too slow after year 2400 and I don't have the patience to wait for the crisis ☹️.

Awesome video! I love how you turned a lot of lemons into lemonade... I'm curious to see where you go from here!

I'm playing this right now as Lithoid Subterraneans, on Grand Admiral Ironman. Made an ally early when a pre-ftl civ rose up (I had just scanned the system too) and I have two more being observed. Pretty fun ngl

"We'll turn the hyperlanes off, how in the galaxy would they reach us then?"

I'd be interested to see you work with that Dyson sphere and continue. I'm playing a Quantum Sling / Eager atm and having fun. Enjoyed your vid; as usual.

Will try now!! Would’ve loved to have seen it through to end

Played this as a UNE oligarchy variant with fanatic materialist and authoritarian corvee system and it's been a lot of fun seeing the emergent story from finding the spiritualist holy world of pristine jewel to begin the tension that would run through the run or the bromance with the commonwealth that grew from them coming to our defense against a spiritualist neighbor who saw an easy target leading to the martial alliance that would span the galaxy, and the political struggle to be recognized ending on being the most politically powerful civilization in the galaxy from desperate authoritarian refugees to immortal egalitarian technocracy of sythetics returning to a tereaformed mars it's been an incredible history to watch unfold.

I wonder if the subspace tech will eventually bring back warp...and maybe bring the fabled warp beasts with it?

Idea to refine Aspec's "Desperate Explorers" run: 1.) Switch the homeworld type to Ocean. 2.) Take the Anglers civic 3.) Set negative traits to "non-adaptive" and "slow breeders" On the one hand, food production is a non-issue if you find a new homeworld! On the other hand, you will have an EXTREMELY bad time if you can't evactuate EVERYONE, and even so you aren't guaranteed survival. Also the additional difficulty from the harsher negatives from colonizing any world that ISN'T an ocean world pretty much guarantees you either get one or die

@A_Spec

Жыл бұрын

I'm guessing that pain and pleasure are the same thing for you.

@terrykrugii5652

Жыл бұрын

@@A_Spec Overcoming such massive hurdles will give me an overdose of dopamine, yes yes

Really liking the Lifeboat name eh? Naming both initial planets that.

7:23 Technological ascendancy! ASpec knows whats good. ;D

always nice to see an a-spec video you have such a great radio voice

@A_Spec

Жыл бұрын

And a face for radio to boot.

The only start my girlfriend can play and actually feel like anything is happening is the doomsday start. Its time to introduce this to her now as well :) hehehe.

@Gamerznation704

Жыл бұрын

Also, when she plays she does her best to evacuate the planet which is admirable :).

Iv bin playing stellaris sens it came out. This gives me the same joy that I had. Now if only we can have a way back to wormholes.

This was cool please continue.

Been doing a role play of eager explorers. Using only eager explorers science and construction ships and also investing heavily into jump tech. Trying to avoid using hyperlanes

Please continue this series 🙏

Damn, I need too try it out! I've also played played with this civic and I have to say that it's not the only challenge here. For example, I wanted to get 'The Path Not Taken' achievement and when I was about to colonize the last two required worlds, some freakin' anomaly gave me the hyperdrive technology....

would really be nice if there was a continuation of this series

“this is a hand not a spaceship” lol, been there before. gotta love stellaris event arts🤣

I really want to run a build that has the remnant origin, with rogue servitor and exploration protocols. The background being the biologicals were idiots and the machines want to observe primitive empires ASAP to figure out what happened and how to avoid it happening again. Only issue is that the game has the game breaking bug where primitives in the atomic age have a 5% chance of nuking themselves each month, which ends up being a very high chance of nuking themselves over a few years. Do love the irony with that bug too. It arose from a fix that lessoned the chances of dastardly asteroids showing up and smiting civilizations that didn't have a benevolent advance civilization to protect them. It's almost like the primitives decided that if the gods weren't going to spare them from being conquered, they end themselves if they are allowed to discover nukes and left to their devices. Though I might just decide to deal with it because I really want to play some stellaris.

Synergy with hyper relays would be a good change with this start, so to get to new space you have to jump and for regular hassle free movement and trade routes you need relays.

It's like in times of ancient past when we had 3 different typ of engines to start with and I like it!

11:15 the star system "Skat" would like to introduce itself.

He's our hero! Liked.

Evacuate everyone important! Leaves politicians behind haha

@A_Spec

Жыл бұрын

No one misses them anyway

This was the first game I did on buying the new dlc but started next to purifiers who invaded me before I had researched corvettes.

Just finished an MP version of this with 4 empires each w/ Doomsday and Eager explorers in a small galaxy.

@A_Spec

Жыл бұрын

Better known as a knife fight in a phonebooth

Jumping in now 💯.

Show Us More This Was Nice.

I remember how the very early Stellaris was pure chaos with 3 way of star travel. Warp was convenient. but jack of all trade, master of none. Hyperdrive was fast, but could get trapped easily Wormhole was so micro intensive. But it was like Jumpdrive currently, in a way.

This reminds me of Stellaris1, a game about space esploration. Like Master of Orion before it. Good old days...

Did he name two planets the same name?

Also, that's quite some poetic justice, those elites that probably lived lives of opulence in the dying world, in the end, got the short straw and had to stay behind while their servants got the opportunity to go on and live better lives x)

@Raycheetah

Жыл бұрын

Sure, because millions of lives being cut short is always a perfect expression of "social justice." =9[.]9=

@matheusGMN

Жыл бұрын

@@Raycheetah I didn’t say it was social justice, I said it was poetic

@Raycheetah

Жыл бұрын

@@matheusGMN Based on class warfare propaganda you posted, yeah, that's what I read between the lines. ='[.]'=

@matheusGMN

Жыл бұрын

@@Raycheetah seeing things that aren't there is called Schizophrenia, you should go see a doctor instead of being here posting on youtube

My issue with this start having tried it is the lack of auto pathing, it'd be nice if I could tell my ships to move and they would do a sequence of jumps

More!

I feel the desperate explorers overtaking me …

seeing 24 habitable locations in one system is hilarious. void born, the worm event and Helito event makes 1 overpowered system

Problem with turning hyperlanes off is that even if *you* don't care about hyperlanes- other empires certainly do. Knowing the hyperlane layout is critical to predicting the movement of AI vessels and creating defensible chokepoints

Aspec has the most ridiculous luck with his desperate exploring! Just needs the Surveyor now for his Tall goodness, Dyson, Matter decompressor, Cybrex, gaia, gaia, gaia

6:00 Praise the goatse.

As much as I love Eager Explorers and its variants I really think it needs a bit more tweaking. First of all it's annoying as hell that you can't queue up multiple jumps. Seriously, just make the ship wait for its jump drive to cool down, can't be that hard to implement. Then there's the fact that once you get hyperdrives you have to choose between them or the subspace drives... and the latter are just worse in most aspects. At the very least the Science and Construction ships should have access to both IMO. Would be a huge QoL improvement and actually give Eager Explorers a bit of an edge over other empire types. At the moment you start out with a massive deficit, have to micromanage every single jump, and the unique stuff you get in return is mostly rendered moot the moment you research hyperdrives. Hell, as far as I'm concerned it would also be fine if you could put subspace _and_ hyperdrives onto your military ships. Really, instead of researching normal hyperdrives, why not run with the theme and simply further develop the subspace drives to increase its range also be able to access hyperlanes? They could get a malus to the charge time to make up for it or something like that.

Being able to jump right over early game obstacles seems really, really overpowered. Just jump over the mining droids, the aggressive space whales, the crystals, the dragons, even the fallen empires. Get all those extra anomalies, events, etc. Being boxed in by an FE goes from a restart situation to basically being unbeatable for the whole early to mid game.

"I'm gonna give you a gaia world to [translation unavailable] off!"

Yeah go for Dacha, I beat them on the opening attack, but after a bit they came back and kicked me out quite a surprise!

Human pops whom's original homeworld was blown up with their new capital on Sol X? That sounds like a fantastic theme for a sci-fi novel, eager explorers is such a fantastic civic, it's making me almost want to see us being able to have more 'origins' as civics.

ive been playing with a modded origin that gives my pops Relic/Ecumenopolis habitability for a while so "Weapon Trails" is something i IMMIDIATELY notice lmao

Honestly this is one mode I am going to do, the whole doomsday thing wasn't that much of a challenge. And just depends on RNG, and remembering to evade your population before zero (Tho ran into a bug if I dont leave at least 1 pop behind it messes with the event)

Btw Aspec, Dacha is russian word for summer house out of city

@A_Spec

Жыл бұрын

I am aware

I think it was rather courageous of the leadership to make sure the common people were transported off world before they themselves left. Too bad politicians in the real world didn't think that way.

@QwertyCaesar

10 ай бұрын

Think of it this way - who would want to become a politician on a doomed world with your civilization looking to the stars for survival? If you wanted to survive you'd find a job involving yourself out in the void.

@ADobbin1

10 ай бұрын

@@QwertyCaesar Then you wouldn't be a politician would you.

You ever try out the Dyson swarm mod?

I still think they should make being able to see hyperlanes locked behind the hyperdrive tech.

I'd like to see this empire become the crisis, it would be interesting.

Plz continue this play through

Halitosis system?! What is this goodness you speak of? Is it only in Stellaris PC, but not console? I have been playing on console since 2019, but only occasionally on PC. I have heard for the 6 Gaia world system, but never seen it on console!

And you did exactly what I want to do with all the politicians. Awesome

Doomsday is the Dark Souls SL1 of Stellaris, I play it more than anything else. Adding it to eager explorers is amazing

Oh my good, this is such a good idea. Never thought that you can combine doomsday and eager explorers, thank you Aspec

@A_Spec

Жыл бұрын

Enjoy!

i really like eager explorers but i wish you got some kind of tangible reward or bonus for never researching normal hyperlane travel other than a achievement. on my start i was locked out of a line of systems because it was too far away from any of my other planets and as your empire gets bigger the limited range of the jumps gets annoying to micro since you cant queue jumps one after the other maybe a research or project to make the range bigger or something like that would be nice

Please keep going.

The random "This is a hand, not a spaceship." made me laugh and scare my cat, lol.

Hyperlanes, assuming the ai will still use normal drives. you'll want the lanes on the map for defensive planning.

"Boyz !!! WE NEED TO SEIZE DAKKA !"

The planet broke before the people did.

So.. when your ships get to ignore all hyperlanes... Does your influence when creating outposts get to ignore the cost of the jump distances too?

Also, one question, isn't the people of Dacha strenghts based on 70% of your strenght? doesn't that mean if you had chosen war, they'd have like 20 basic corvettes? (since you're very far behind in the game because of your starting situation) I think you could've really gamed the game when you found them that early...

@matheusGMN

Жыл бұрын

@@Astraeros yeah, which is what I said in the comment

Love the civic, just way to many bugs. You can't use L gates. At the moment had to leave my campaign, as I can't get in to deal with the Tempest. Other stuff is more quality of life, like more ui to tell when I can jump again (days etc)

So we got the old Warp tech back in this expack, but where are my Wormhole Generators? Give me my beloved Wormhole Generators back. D':

i only played warp back in the day

22:18 wasn't it already cold and lifeless with only politicians left behind?

2:29 which ship sets is he using? or is it a mod?

@lindalobstadefenda

Жыл бұрын

the toxoid one.

WHAT DO YOU MEAN IT'S A HAND?! HOW HAVE I NOT KNOWN SINCE RELEASE?!

Now activate Gigastructures and make a GLUE to put your home planet back together again

"Please take this massive Gaia World and **translation error** off."

Are you nuts ASpec? That does NOT scream Captain Planet! THAT Screams Slaver Lords from Galaxy Rangers :P

You could have triggered the edict for doomsday, it’s called emergency evacuation or something and got to evacuate all your pops for free.

@A_Spec

Жыл бұрын

I didn't even know that existed:x

Where is cloaking technology in the tech tree

I did this the other day, lucked out with an okay planet nearby and spent 30 years getting it ready and transferring everyone to it... except one pop refused to leave and I kept not having enough unity to force the final evacuation of Earth. It was a ruler. Lol burn then.