Dennis McKenna: Deceptive Psychedelics, Consciousness
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Dennis McKenna is the brother of Terrence McKenna and is an ethnopharmacologist / research pharmacognosist. His knowledge of psychedelics is extensive. Listen now early and ad-free on Patreon / curtjaimungal .
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LINKS MENTIONED:
- Brotherhood of the Screaming Abyss (Dennis' book): amzn.to/3QmjzmT
- ETHNOPHARMACOLOGIC SEARCH FOR PSYCHOACTIVE DRUGS: espd55.com
- Dennis' website (BioGnosis): mckenna.academy
- Karl Friston TOE podcast (Cautions on Consciousness): • Karl Friston: Derealiz...
TIMESTAMPS:
00:00:00 Introduction
00:01:19 Dennis McKenna's working habits / quotidianness
00:02:45 Microdosing doesn't work
00:03:49 "Hang up when you receive the message"
00:08:35 Psychedelics aren't meant to be taken isolated from community
00:13:22 Terrence, the family, and Brotherhood of the Screaming Abyss
00:18:46 Ethnopharmacologic Search for Psychoactive Drugs (ESPD)
00:27:49 MDMA's uses (and designer drugs)
00:40:31 Mycelium vs. fruiting bodies
00:46:03 Psychological metamorphosis without hallucinogens?
00:56:46 Staying "grounded" and not being "high" all the time
00:59:23 Terrence never found ground and got lost
01:12:13 Perils of investigations into consciousness
01:14:47 Gender differences in psychedelics
01:15:24 Love in disunity rather than pure "connectedness"
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TIMESTAMPS and LINKS : - Brotherhood of the Screaming Abyss (Dennis' book): amzn.to/3QmjzmT - ETHNOPHARMACOLOGIC SEARCH FOR PSYCHOACTIVE DRUGS: espd55.com - Dennis' website: mckenna.academy/ - Karl Friston TOE podcast (Cautions on Consciousness): kzread.info/dash/bejne/hYuoqLdqfMzaY7A.html 00:00:00 Introduction 00:01:19 Dennis McKenna's working habits / quotidianness 00:02:45 Microdosing doesn't work 00:03:49 "Hang up when you receive the message" 00:08:35 Psychedelics aren't meant to be taken isolated from community 00:13:22 Terrence, the family, and Brotherhood of the Screaming Abyss 00:18:46 Ethnopharmacologic Search for Psychoactive Drugs (ESPD) 00:27:49 MDMA's uses (and designer drugs) 00:40:31 Mycelium vs. fruiting bodies 00:46:03 Psychological metamorphosis without hallucinogens? 00:56:46 Staying "grounded" and not being "high" all the time 00:59:23 Terrence never found ground and got lost 01:12:13 Perils of investigations into consciousness 01:14:47 Gender differences in psychedelics 01:15:24 Love in disunity rather than pure "connectedness"
@johndillon6330
10 ай бұрын
Didn't see the bit on Not Trusting The Entities?
@KafkasKumpel
10 ай бұрын
Where is the part that this whole convo is titled with?
@frankie8958
10 ай бұрын
I was really hoping that this interview would have gone into all the studies and work with Ayahuasca and psilocybin in the mental health and addiction fields.John Hopkins has done work in this field and it was very promising and beneficial. In the addiction part with cocaine and heroin there was an 80% rate of success of them Not going back to drug use. That's higher than any known program out there. In cases of severe depression and anxiety I believe it was 86% of them not having to come back for 6 months and up to 2 years after the initial 3 sessions with qualified professionals. These people who were interviewed all went into the spiritual aspects of how it helped them.He could have went in depth on why in these two particular fields its a bad idea to take the psychedelic properties out of the medicine. It's really a matter of big pharmaceutical companies not liking the idea that it takes so long for people to come back to buy a product. When they can take it apart and only sell you the chemical part of it so you keep coming back. I really love this channel but I feel short change with this particular interview
@christomorpho
10 ай бұрын
@@frankie8958 I agree. The discussion is lacking content.
@recommens-comedy-central9761
10 ай бұрын
Can you look into shared holusinations as in esp collective, 2 or more people sharing the same experience when doing Dr ugs. Short story male and female on mdma the male was seeing white stallions while having intercorse and found the woman saw white stallion as well.After the fact, Spooky.
I like what Curt is turning this channel into. Archiving so much information from many different point of views coming from people operating from many different paradigms. He’s building a holistic tapestry of knowledge and wisdom. This channel could be remembered as a philosophical goldmine for future generations at this rate.
@blugreen99
10 ай бұрын
Keepp throwing around the word PARADIGM it's impressive bs. Holistic tapestry.,great stuff!
@nickrhodes6485
10 ай бұрын
Curt is the reluctant hero of these topics, who doesn't love that??
@richardl.currier4052
10 ай бұрын
@@blugreen99 lol
@WinstonTheAmazingCanadian
10 ай бұрын
Big word hurt small head @@blugreen99 Feel not smart, angry
@andypeutherer4218
10 ай бұрын
Like a wacko encyclopedia, very profitable thse days. Steven Greer for example shameles profiting off nonsence peddlers.
It is kind of beautiful that with Dennis sometimes the speech patterns of Terence come through, for a moment I feel like I am listening to Terence. It makes me think of all the people that cocreated us, all the generations that preceded us and how they shaped what we are today.
Wow, another excellent episode. Curt, you have the most expansive range of guests and we appreciate every single one. Thank you for your hard work. I love seeing the success of your channel!
@gofai274
6 күн бұрын
Don't you find it cringe tho that people don't engage with anything negative? It is getting absurd - today ppl are weak and are afraid even of opposite opinions and they are positive 100% of times. Life is both negative and positive... Yeah it is joke like to me how unconsciousness even these ppl that think they are awake are... They are just scared of truth...
My favorite thing about this is the door into some other reality between his headphone spaces
Terrence was the most brilliant mind of XX century, because he was a great messenger. He was so much ahead of his times, that some of his ideas are still to be rediscovered. He knew more about the nature of AI than we know today. I remember him talking about virtual machines in mid 90' and being basically lough at, and today the whole economy stands on VMs. Brilliant mind beloved by the people but somehow dismissed by intelligentsia, even his own brother.
@frankwise88
6 ай бұрын
Glad someone else recognizes that.
Thank you for this presentation. "to remember how little we actually know... there's a lot that remains unknown." Here is an excerpt from Steps to Knowledge about staying open to "true instruction." "True instruction is available. It has been waiting for you to reach the point of maturity where you realize its necessity in your life. It is born of recognizing your limitations in light of that which is your true need. You must love yourself to become a student of Knowledge and continually love yourself to proceed. There is no other obstacle to learning but this. Without love, there is fear, for nothing else can replace love. But love has not been replaced, and true assistance is available to you." (Marshall Vian Summers, STK)
The Tibetan book of the Dead tells us that the visions sounds and experiences of the trip are come from within one's own creative intellect. Terence McKenna was convinced that there were external entities that were communicating to him. This will be an interesting program.
@BallBatteryReligion
4 ай бұрын
It's fascinating and kind of ironic that a religion spanning millennia that had no exposure western science for centuries has been tapped into this philosophy of mind, non dual consciousness and the influence and ability of our perceptions and subjective experiences, at least in essence. Wheras the intellectual fields in the west seem to only recently be finding it. That's why I think we can't dismiss these things. Turns out those fellas in the robes sitting under trees might've been onto something lol.
@R3l3ntl3sss
4 ай бұрын
I think all external entities are in the end just different reflections of the Self. I think there is nothing really beyond the Self. All is the Self
McKenna!! What a legend
@MarinTvarog
10 ай бұрын
Yeah, both of them. Learned so much from Terence and from Denis. 💚🌍👌🍄🌳
I did salvia one time with my brother. We were in our backyard at night and i remember shrinking to the size of an ant and being lost in the grass. What a trip. Once was definitely enough.
@gloriaharbin1131
10 ай бұрын
Oh Sheeet! Glad you didn’t get eaten by a grasshopper.
@Alex-ip1dn
10 ай бұрын
@@gloriaharbin1131 hahaha it was like living in A Bugs Life movie for 60 seconds
@purplepimple2610
10 ай бұрын
My couch became a hungry bottomless pit
@nicholasbrunning
10 ай бұрын
That drug scares the f out of me
@netcurtains
10 ай бұрын
Doubt,
I used to think science provided the best model of reality and used to have a head full of riveting tidbits I'd read from Scientific American (and SA Mind). Then it became apparent to me how important thinking about what little I really knew was in connecting the dots and therein discovering missing links purely by being a thinking animal, a platonic rationalist, more than an empirical, sensing, "measuring" animal. Nowadays, while logical postivism is still an important pillar of my understanding of reality, philosophy and art have taken me closer to the nonphysical, immeasurable factors of reality, images of art and philosophy aren't limited to physicalism. What you see isn't what it is per se, but what it is filtered through your habitual tendencies of questioning. Psychedelics have made me change my definition of so many things...like what is experience, what is experienceable, or what can even be remembered and re presented, mediated through memory or symbols. In other words, unmediated reality may be impossible to communicate, impossible to fully experience if experience is something that must be remembered and represented consciously by my free will. A sense of wonder at the prodigy of every phenomenon has been better for my understanding of what is than easily sated curiosity. Curiosity becomes bored or short tempered when it doesn't have the answers whereas wonder is an endless well.
Always great to hear from Dennis, great questions, i felt a little strange when the interviewer claimed not to know about the experiment at La Chorera, highly reccomend the True Halucinations vid
I love both Terence and Dennis McKenna. To my mind, Terence got caught in the web of his imagination and Dennis got caught in the web of his reason. The magic is more than merely the sum of the Brothers McKenna. The magic is the balanced and Holistic understanding and integration of the information that they both shared with us.
@providief
10 ай бұрын
One left brained, one right brained perhaps
@matthewmaguire3554
5 ай бұрын
I miss Terence’s wit and the Irish sense of mischief just for the hell of it…In Ireland it’s called a sense of Craic.🍀
Brilliant episode as per! Important conversations and always love to the sound of a McKenna, with their Jedi voice 😝
Thanks Kurt for interviewing this psilocybin pioneer - if you want to speak with additional psychedelic progressives I recommend reaching out to Hamilton Morris - the "McKenna Brother" of our generation
@netcurtains
10 ай бұрын
Pioneer?peeples have being taking shrooms for 100s of years
I've listened to many interviews with Dennis and this is a great one Curt! Thank you!
Took lsd 2 weeks ago at Melbourne Zoo. OMG! Best day out EVER
Gosh, this came out at the right time for me. About to embark on a medicinal Ayahuasca journey in a few days, and hope to have the right mindset and not freak out. Can't wait to watch this one. Thanks Curt! 🙏🏼 ❤
@jedi36mindtricks
10 ай бұрын
Please share your experiencea
@toriscott1881
10 ай бұрын
Have a wonderful journey!❤
@stop-the-online-crooks
10 ай бұрын
@@jameskim3915 SCAMMER
@michaelschmichael3973
10 ай бұрын
Watching this before first Ayahuasca is not a good idea
@deepsp_ce
8 ай бұрын
bring bottled water 😉
Dennis, Your extended Irish family will always be there for you... ☘🍀🥦🍄
Extremely excited for this one! Dennis is the man!
Excellent interview Curt. Thank you.
The portal backgrounds always distract me because the edges are never sealed. Fascinated by the ceiling fan whirling between the headphones and dome 😂🤣😂🤣
It’s hard for me to say the messenger matters more than the message. Whether you’re good or bad, trustworthy or not, what you say can be looked at individually. It’s not just entities in that space. It’s all entities, human and otherwise, who speak half truths. Having trust is a hard thing in a world filled with lies .
@dhaktizero4406
10 ай бұрын
mara is not your enemy you dance with her willingly because you wanted to deeply and truly and it's good if you let it be
@iamlovingawareness2284
10 ай бұрын
@@dhaktizero4406 honestly I’m not sure who is an enemy and who is not. It seems each being has a Will of its own. By the time that will is clear it’s often too late. I say I’ve turned away more than I have danced. If beings have the capacity to enter into peoples minds then they are more competent than myself. The issue is that discernment and doubt are cousins. I don’t know what to think. I doubt and do everything to defend my heart from parasites.
@dhaktizero4406
10 ай бұрын
@@iamlovingawareness2284 ... Dis turn from Dis all the ways of Dis are destruction all the ways of para-dis are construction Dis Para-Dis this is where we dance in the middle dis is take para-dis is give there is no enemy but Dis but this enemy must be held closer than any lover do not let dis wriggle free and make of thee kali dancing destruction in the temples of Dis Dis loves this nay the way is crooked you have to be care-filled and wary the scary hairy times are to strengthen ya if you ain't dead the world still loves and needs ya so dance in the ghost dance like it's your last chance ... trust yer dancing shoes ...
@louiepooh1510
10 ай бұрын
@@iamlovingawareness2284 Trust in Steel. They can say anything they want but they can't just enter minds without permission or a fight. Turned into fight club for me when I caught the most trusted one lying.
I absolutely adore the scientific openness and calibre of guests this channels brings. For anyone interested in ethnopharmacology i can recommend "The cosmic snake" from Jeremy Narby.
@adamjohnson286
10 ай бұрын
"The Cosmic Serpent" by Jeremy Narby
Loved this interview, Kurt! I'm a big fan of Dennis and his work.
Hello Curt, I am so glad you got Dennis on! By the way, would you consider inviting the physicist Nassim Haramein? He is going to publish a paper called "The origin of mass and the nature of gravity" and he is trying to develop the use of quantum vacuum energy as a power source. You always ask important and intelligent questions so it would be a treat to see you two have a conversation. Cheers
@jasonshults368
5 ай бұрын
Is he selling these quantum vacuums? I'd like to clean all probable messes today.
1:20:00 It’s not just reductive materialism that is the reason people are working on finding a psychedelic without the trip. It’s partly coz the cost of assisted therapy is enormous… 12 sessions including 3-4 x8hours with two clinicians. That’s the current protocol model and will cost up to $20,000 here in Australia. Not just for “spiritual” reasons do I prefer the traditional practices for these things. So great that you just let Denis talk with only a few nudges Curt! Thanks for this. 🙏🏽❤️
@alexandrazachary.musician
10 ай бұрын
@@jameskim3915 no thank you. I’m working within a framework of clinical psychology and will not do anything that is problematic for my registration as a practitioner.
Good job Kurt, You’re really compiling quite a list of interesting guests
❤ I was looking for an explanation for a long time. Thanks a lot Curt!
What good grounded information and guidance from a wise man. Thank you Dennis and Curt!
one of your best interviews I think!
The Brotherhood of the screaming abyss was a great read. Thank you so much for sharing it.
Thank you curt this was amazing! I'm sharing on Facebook!
Indigenous people always had a shaman or guide for anyone taking a psyche trip. This culture is not well formed enough to deal with these types of wanderings without an experienced guide. Really appreciate how respectful Dennis is about mind altering experiences.
@fancycrafts7774
10 ай бұрын
Well the western esoteric traditions specifically stress the importance of taking your own path, on your own. People should use whichever method is best for them.
@humanbeing3337
10 ай бұрын
@@fancycrafts7774 exactly the point - western esotericism “developed in the late 17th century” in Europe from intellectual/egocentric practices
@fancycrafts7774
10 ай бұрын
@@humanbeing3337 yes yes, white people bad.
@fluranranran5452
10 ай бұрын
@@humanbeing3337 its all good whether it is solo trip or collective trip Collective trip, from a shaman drumming, can be bothering Individual trip i prefer it as it doesnt bother me and can contemplate on my psyche. It is still relevant that we lost touch with that such rituals played a rone in collective context, that it was usually shaman who took psychedelic, and providing wisdom.
@SofaKingShit
10 ай бұрын
I agree but you have to work with what you have. Funnily enough I never feel lonely when on something, maybe because l have pets and an upbringing that gave me trust issues. And then there's the companionship of the whole universe, you know, the "all is one" sort of thing.
Such a beautiful taxonomy of ideas from that man. I had a great time listening to you too interact!
For those interested in learning more about how to ground yourself BEFORE having a psychedelic experience, review Antero Allis work about Anchors in the 8 Circuit Model of Consciousness. I came to it after a jarring 2C-E experience which broke down all biases and gave me the rawest neutral look at reality ever.
@brianmcglade8164
10 ай бұрын
Robert Anton Wilson's " Prometheous Rising " is a detailed explanation!
@Aedonius
10 ай бұрын
@@brianmcglade8164 Yes. Antero Alli took RAW even further. When he wrote Angel Tech, he spoke with RAW and gave him one of the first drafts and told him he inspired him. The Anchors are something only Alli came up with. Anchoring lower circuits is essential for safe navigation of the higher circuits on psychedelics.
@brianmcglade8164
10 ай бұрын
@Aedonius Your so correct! Love Antero! His work is unparalleled. The book you mentioned is definitely a " Modern Shamans Guide to Reality Selection ".
@deepsp_ce
8 ай бұрын
make sure you're at a really nice music festival 😄👍🏼
This was so great! I hope they can talk again. Love this channel. Great work as always Kurt. I also couldn’t stop thinking that these 2 remind me of Dr.Bunson Honeydew and Beaker.
Excellent interview! I've been thinking a lot about AI analogy with psychedelics, so great that you touched that topic! Thank you for sharing!
Very interesting. Looking forward to this.
Always have the best guests
Amazing interview! Thank you
AFAIK Allan Watts said "when you get the message, hang up the phone" regarding having a daily meditation practice not use of psychedelics. He was not against meditation or psychedelics, He was against anything rigid and rule bound like a strict daily spiritual practice.
What an amazing gentleman. Great show.
I tried Ibogaine and it helped me get off fentanyl. I have been feeling like I am overdue for a while, but not necessarily Ibogaine, as that is a very intense, 2-3 day experience...
@Aedonius
10 ай бұрын
how did you do it? Flood dose with multiple smaller doses?
@benhudson4014
10 ай бұрын
@@Aedonius once one takes a flood dose of pure iboga alcoloid extract you are definitely Not topping up (48hr journey from birth to death)
Really liked this video! First time to your channel, i like your style of conversation and the questions you ask are on point. Great job ToE!
@TheoriesofEverything
5 ай бұрын
Welcome! So happy you are enjoying :)
Sulgin is the grandfather of underground chemistry and both books are now rarely in print due to political antipathy. The carbon ring is the basis of all his organic chemistry and each arm has its own definite outcome, some purely psychedelic while others without any effect,. Adding one molecule creates a whole world of difference, the analogues are innumerable.
@stop-the-online-crooks
10 ай бұрын
@@jameskim3915 SCAMMER
Daaamn, I love that dude. Curt, you're the best!
Excited for this! I even named my geckos Terrance and McKenna.... Unfortunately McKenna is no more, but Terrance is still kicking. I actually hatched them from eggs over a decade ago! Coincidently, it was right around the time I was first exposed to these compounds and their wondrous effects.
@jasonshults368
5 ай бұрын
On an utterly unrelated note, my daughter named her gecko Molly.
@MattAngiono
5 ай бұрын
@jasonshults368 I wouldn't say that's utterly unrelated lol 😉
Erowid and Shulgins work on t.i.h.k.a.l. and p.i.h.k.a.l. are some of the best resources for anyone who intends to use any psychoactive substance. That includes caffeine alcohol and nicotine, which many people omit because they are legal in most places
Amazing, everytime, Curt... I do not know how you manage to keep up with the various areas of knowledge. Remind me of what David Paulides once said in terms of his knowledge regarding areas not specific to his skillset, his response to a person asking him was "it is like being as wide as a pancake but just as thin" when it comes to what is outside his direct skillset. Good Show, I often think these medicines gave humans the insights way back when to advance forward, I think there is a reason why our brains are wired so to speak to readily acccept these substances. What Dennis said, I heard so many times, proper use in controlled conditions have proven how super effective some of these are when it comes to addiction, depression and the medical community is starting to take this much seriously as they did in the past. Lastly, Curt, your content is super useful. This channel should have way more subscribers, but I understand it is not for all.
Very informative. I love your courage and love for curiosity Curt!!! Physics to psychedelics! Bless
@wallytangofoxtrot4721
10 ай бұрын
Physichedelics
@life.esoteric
10 ай бұрын
@@wallytangofoxtrot4721 😄😄
Such a great conversation!
Just viewing, but this is phenomenal, thank you Curt
This is sort of needed, there are a lot of Terrence McKenna wannabes out there that lack his mental faculty but like talking psychedelics up to anybody within hearing range.
@stephensarmento3529
9 ай бұрын
It's his brother...
@gendashwhy
9 ай бұрын
Terrence McKenna was a one-off. If only he was still here. Same with Ram Dass before his stroke. Find your inner psychonaut. We all have the same potential. Be amazing.
In regards to "Hang up once you receive the message"; during my last profound mushroom experience roughly 8 years ago, I was speaking to an entity that I referred to as "the mushrooms" or "the grid" which had the appearance of a shifting and warping grid bearing a somewhat mischievous grin. The grid would not answer my questions, and specifically anytime I spoke to it as if we were separate entitieies I felt scolded... it was as if I was being tested and failing repeatedly. In the end was actually told something along the lines of "we've shown you enough. Don't come back until you've made use of it"
@stop-the-online-crooks
10 ай бұрын
@@jameskim3915 SCAMMER
I really appreciate you curt
The need to take them regularly perhaps comes from the fact that we're usually not exactly the same person that we were some time ago.
Time stamp for the "Entities"? Thanks in advance.
If our ancient stories and folklore are full of warnings against interaction or trusting 'paranormal' entities, then yeah... Caution is a good place to start. I'd say 'assume you are being told half/mix/un-truths' should be S.O.P.
@timbeck6726
10 ай бұрын
Long story short in point form. Salvia-accelleration. Then gravity pulled to the floor, bright kailediscopic colours(fractals)then white blinding light. I'm on the floor of a 50s diner(black n' white tile floor). A teen girl( in a poodle skirt) picks me up and says "We want you to stay", then all the patrons started murmering "We want you to stay"...it was a "hyptnotic drone chant". I was comfortable because i knew my body was elsewhere(bilocation,etc)but felt my will and capacity slipping/ draining away. I forced myself up off the floor(in this reality/real life)again with flashes of coloured light and extremely heavy gravity. Once i was fully erect did i "come too". Pleasant bizarre panic but strangely comforting. Were THEY benevolent or Malevolent? I don't know but i sure as shit wasn't staying...i'm just a tourist!
@dhaktizero4406
10 ай бұрын
you are tricking yourself do you love yourself or hate yourself who is doing why for what is important to know do you know your self? the play is to catch your conscience King
I'm not sure why Dennis attributes false ideas entirely to these substance experiences, when people often have false ideas when lucid or sober, sometimes for most their life even perhaps, a conclusion that satisfies is elusive regardless of mindset
@acetate909
10 ай бұрын
He didn't attribute false ideas "entirely" to psychedelics. His opinion is that not all epiphanies experienced in an altered state of conciousness are legitimate and one should contemplate the validity of the ideas attained during a psychedelic experience for several sober ddays. He never claimed that every new idea that one gains under the influence is invalid. He simply implied that it's important to differentiate the legitimate from the fantasy. He mostly spoke of the beneficial aspects of psychedelic experiences so it's curious that your comment misrepresented this conversation in such a specific way.
@eturnall383
10 ай бұрын
He suggested that he and his brother had some delusions after taking psychedelics. Maybe delusion is miscommunicated insights and not just dysfunctional but can be insightful.
Excellent questions. Ive watched pretty much all of Dennis podcasts, interviews, etc lol. And on one of the last ones he was like, im tired of talking about the experiment at la chorerra. But yeah. Lets see what the podcast brings...
Thanks for this!!! 😊
After a bad trip I was in a delusional state for a couple years. I couldn't ask other people around me to ground me because I didn't fully believe they existed. I fell into solipsism, and I strongly suspected others were just aspects of me. I kept it together, but inside I was lost. Now I still value psychedelics, but I don't take the visions literally.
I use as much wisdom and careful consideration to judge what an entity thinks as well as what an academic thinks. My religious instincts are correct 100x more often than any atheist I've ever talked to.
Great great episode!
I can't believe you got Dennis McKenna on the podcast! Not sure if this would stray too far from your channel's theme since he focuses more on mycology, but maybe you could have Paul Stamets on, as well? It would be interesting to hear him go into detail on how extraordinary fungi is, it's capabilities (like that one experiment where it was slime molds, I believe, that was able to navigate a maze "intellectually"), health benefits of fungi, or how it could be used for fighting climate change, or how his perspective of the world has been influenced by studying mycology, but also by his use of psychedelics.
@TheoriesofEverything
10 ай бұрын
I've been trying to get Paul on for a little while. Getting closer!
@necromancer-x
10 ай бұрын
@@TheoriesofEverything I'm so glad to hear! Also wanted to mention that I'm a huge fan of the podcast, and that you're doing so great. I feel so happy to find like-minded peers who are interested in the nature of reality, whatever it might be. I'm autistic/ADD, so I've always been disassociated from "real life", but these questions and feeling "not real" have been with me for as long as I can remember. For the longest time, I thought I was all alone.
@deepsp_ce
8 ай бұрын
be careful asking him about the health benefits 😉
Great great discussion!!!!!
Another great video..😌👍
Hi Curt. I'd like very much you interview the creator of the channel Quinn's Ideas, he has excellent analysis and very insightful perspectives. As always, thanks you very much for all your awesome videos! Please keep us updated of so much great info! Thanks!
1:07:08 good to do a little background research before interviewing.
I missed the part where he said don’t trust the entities?
This looks fascinating!!!
Weird timing. I just spoke with them yesterday, they were extremely helpful, great sense of humor.
@adamjohnson286
10 ай бұрын
The DMT entities, you mean? Yeah, 99 percent of experiences are positive. It's just about going in with the right attitude, having the proper "set and setting," as Timothy Leary called it.
@1ntrcnnctr608
10 ай бұрын
ask “them” about time pls n report back. thx
Reflection and connecting with one's inner emotional landscape occurs ideally in the ABSENCE of mind/mood altering substances. The non-psychedelic perspective shift occurs when one reconciles the internal psychological and emotional environment, with the external world around us and it changes the way one deals with day-to-day challenges. By external world I mean interactions with nature, animals, and other humans. Psychedelics might be useful for certain people, and its only one way, but certainly NOT the only way to connect with "Source."
@FoursWithin
8 ай бұрын
Of course it's not the only way but it's a very good and sure way. It's also great for many other things.
@JosephCarrion
8 ай бұрын
Agreed @@FoursWithin
Removing the experience from compounds is simply a continuation of the pharmaceutical approach to healing. Pharmaceutical 'management' is a path that has not been effective for us over many decades. Doing this to psychedelics is a horrific misuse. Yes greed driven.
@frankie8958
10 ай бұрын
100% agree..
I'm of Celtic origin, individuals in many cultures would use for vision questing as youth come of age , and as mentioned individual sickness of the soul or social disharmony.
Thumbnail is great btw.
"Why would you hang up the phone on your teacher..." far out, I like that
Alistair crowley said 2 profound things...1 was that he believed in a future coming psychedelic Revolution...2 he also said, what we call angels and demons, people in the future will call something else....
Terence mentioned something about synthetic drugs having no soul. I find it useful to get lost in Terence, and come back to Dennis as a realty check.
@deepsp_ce
8 ай бұрын
he is right though. there is a difference, although miniscule, but one with experience can tell the nuances seperating synthetic and organic 👍🏼👍🏼
Great job here
Good job ❤️🔥
Can someone please timestamp where in the interview the thumbnail is referring to
Had mystical experiences on LSD. Wanting to confirm them, I went on to daily meditation and self-inquiry without any psychedelics or pot. With that, I experienced far greater realizations with clarity and knowing than any psychedelic provided, including a total kundalini awakening. Since then, psychedelics became boring and I couldn't wait for them to wear off.
..I won't ever get enough of exploring my mind in its "natural" state...shout out to Sadh Guru...
What a great conversation! I can relate to this stuff and the McKenna Brothers have been contributing to my insights and delusions (enjoyable) for 30 years!
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10 ай бұрын
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10 ай бұрын
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10 ай бұрын
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10 ай бұрын
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10 ай бұрын
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What I love the most is he didn't intend on being a paranormal channel it kinda came to him.
@TwiztedDezign
10 ай бұрын
There is no such thing as "Paranormal". Only the natural we don't understand.
@psilopsychic
10 ай бұрын
@@TwiztedDezignfacts
@nickrhodes6485
10 ай бұрын
@@TwiztedDezign agreed
@daa5249
10 ай бұрын
@@TwiztedDezign But 'Only the natural we don't understand' isn't a term or name needed for classification.
@TwiztedDezign
10 ай бұрын
@@daa5249 that's just philosophical mastubation now.
Thanks man
The strangest thing, to me, is the "effect" wearing off; each time I take psilocybin I feel I have "awakened" achieved enlightenment. There is nothing more necessary beyond this. Each time I have the sense that I have reached a sustainable state of awareness - but each time...I come down. Go back to sleep. How can that be? Why??
Hyper associative right hemisphere activity is what psychedelics trigger.....but the sharp integration of the logical left is required to attenuate this. The asymmetrical relationship of the left and right is then sparked up....this harnesses the progressive track of development.
In ordinary reality, one can never avoid the concept of " chop would and carry water"
I loved this interview. Psychedelics without psychedelic effects... 😂 that's what pharma industry and governments wants: Make people feel better and be more productive, but without (often painful and challenging) learn- effects. So that you have to take it again and again 🤑, and don't change your mindset.
No link to the brain forest café podcast ?
When you get the message, hang up the phone, but be prepared to pick it up when it rings again.
Thanks!
@TheoriesofEverything
8 ай бұрын
Thank you so much!
Curt , if one compares the process of dreaming with the hallucinogenic experience one might surmise that both evolve a process of synaptic refreshment= board spectral firing and all sites, ergo hallucinations
Wow this is amazing!
@EvelynBonnie-qd8dh
10 ай бұрын
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Superb interview. Always the cleverer McKenna, although I love Terence I’ve always preferred to hear Dennis’s opinion on the trip, it’s more balanced.
Dennis is a wealth of knowledge, very interesting guy.
@FrankEmmanuel799
10 ай бұрын
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10 ай бұрын
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10 ай бұрын
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Well he finally figured it out.