Brian, you have your concept backwards. Your eyes are *not* the light source! The light is not coming *from* your eyes, but *to* them. How do you keep getting this easy concept reversed? 🙃

1:43 The gradient in the fish tank is not the same gradient in the atmosphere. Also, the can is still obstructed bottom up.

Yes, Brian. These are valid points. Think of it this way at this part of the video 1:00. The cityscape on the photo is fully visible through the water gradient, ok? Then the viewer lowers his angle and the MEDIUM CHANGES THE APPEARANCE of the entire cityscape which is STILL entirely in line of sight. I think that should make sense to most. Maybe not @Earthislife1031, but most.

If I remember correctly, Ranty debunked his video the next day after the sugar had time to settle. Background surface appearing higher than foreground object. tch?v=oGMkIqAidK4&t=154s&ab_channel=MickWest Refraction: Seeing over the curve... of my driveway(Tj Wiets) =Dktw9ncLuhg&ab_channel=TjWiets =C3Emxia5OEg&ab_channel=TjWiets

With spring coming, I like to offer people a very simple little observation that everyone can do. At the edge of the water up to their ankles, with their eyes watching a boat disappear on the horizon. When it disappeared take X40/X50 binoculars and observe it until it disappears again. Put down the binoculars and take a camera with a more powerful zoom, digital or not, X90 / X120 and find the boat again. This allowed many people to understand that boats do not disappear behind the pseudo curvature of the earth.

@larryscott3982

3 ай бұрын

And when you only see 1/2 of the ship, then what?

@stat_mike9720

3 ай бұрын

@@larryscott3982seems it’s just water swells that cover the bottom. Even then, the horizon is flat and is proven another way, using RF, that does not bend over a curve, yet is received 10 times farther than it should according to a globe model.

@Earthislife1031

3 ай бұрын

​@stat_mike9720 OK, then what happens when I'm on the top of a 25 story building?Looking at a boat through my p900 and the boat is still obstructed by the water? I have made this observation myself.

@marcg1686

3 ай бұрын

Alternatively, you could just stand at the water's edge with a camera equipped with a powerful zoom lens and observe the ship disappearing bottom first over the horizon, which it will, and then trying to zoom it back in, which you won't.

@larryscott3982

3 ай бұрын

@@stat_mike9720 ‘seems it’s just water swells’ got it. ‘Looks like’ is FE standard of ‘pruf’. So pics of ships off shore at anchor for a day or more the visibility of the hull should come and go. It doesn’t. But even an hour the swells then should cause visibility to come and go. But it doesn’t. There are days of course with chop and waves. But there are plenty of days at ebb tide and high tide and smooth water.

Wow! Do y you really not understand what is being said? Wow!

2:45-- Brian, I think the "rising" language is confusing but take it to mean that the image is being "raised up" from beyond the physical curve. Everything is superior-miraged, it has to be--in their model.

@curious1585

3 ай бұрын

That's incorrect

Dude, you're wrong again! 😂😂😂 You keep saying the same stuff, but it keeps being wrong. When you lowered the camera, did you happen to notice that, while cityscape image seemed get smaller vertically, both the top and the bottom *appeared higher?*

Aren't you tired of being wrong all the time, Brian?