Demon’s souls is about a world that is dying. Elden ring talks about a world going to be reborn. It makes sense one theme is like a lament, and the other is a choir

@untipo.

Жыл бұрын

A thinking about the fact that elden ring is a sequel of dark souls and that dark souls is a sequel of demon's souls everything fits perfectly

@fallen9997

Жыл бұрын

​@@untipo. ER is not a sequel to DS, it is a whole another world, just like DS isn't a sequel to DeS. It's 3 different worlds.

@untipo.

Жыл бұрын

@@fallen9997 yes they are, but they are all connected by the branches of the Old one. Every world is constructed above the ashes of the previous, not by the chance you can see a cultural evolution of their society (for example you can see how the society of ashes of ariandel evolved into bloodborne's society). That's proved by the fact that miyazaki confirmed the connections between Déraciné and Bloodborne (he called the connections as little nodes), if you don't believe me read: "our full hideata miyazaki interview" and "the significance of Déraciné to bloodborne".

@fallen9997

Жыл бұрын

@@untipo. those little nods are just references. So no, they are not connected at all besides the gameplay mechanics and developer.

@untipo.

Жыл бұрын

@@fallen9997 Please read this interview about sekiro and deracine by miyazaki, i assure you that, at least for deracine and bloodborne, these aren't just references: "As to creating these kinds of odes or references to our other games within Sekiro, we’re actually being a little bit careful because ­- working with other publishers means you have to be careful with how you treat this material and this content (NOTICE THAT E.R. AND DS ARE BOTH PUBLISHED BY BANDAI). So, if it’s Dark Souls to Dark Souls III, it’s easy to put in odes and references here or there since it’s the same publisher. For instance, with Déraciné, that was released recently for VR, we had an ode to Bloodborne in there - both titles are published by Sony. Actually, that reference, that nod itself caused a much greater stir than we expected. Way more than we expected (HE IS SPEAKING ABOUT THE RUMORS OF BLOODBORNE 2). When we were given that idea like, “Why don’t you just put a little nod in there? It’d be great.” And we tried it and it blew up. So, we just want to tread a little bit more carefully around that front (HE MEANS CAREFULLY ON PUTTING NODES INTO SEKIRO)."

I'm so glad someone finally pointed this out. I'm a huge fan of the original demon souls melody. So I immediately recognized the similarities when the first Elden Ring gameplay trailer dropped. Thanks again for this!

@untipo.

Жыл бұрын

Did you also notice how the lore of the 2 games are connected? We are actually walking on the old one branches 😂

@jasurbekibragimov7153

21 күн бұрын

And nexus looks like elden ring

@Gakusangi

20 күн бұрын

I mentioned this on the first trailer XD

My brain has been expandeded

@Munnwort

Күн бұрын

so has expanded

First the Dark Souls Plin Plon, now this

I knew there was reason I liked it so much.

I heard this from watching so many ER challenges and I'm so happy I wasn't the only one. All these games are Demon's Souls' baby

@DerKlownstein

Ай бұрын

hell yeah brother thanks for sayin’ that

Holy fuck how did I not notice this?

Oh wow I didn’t notice they’re nearly identical. Nice callback.

I have been signing the elden ring theme all this time thinking "oh that sounds like the demon souls theme"

Judging by comments it looks like the video hit the algo again, props to you brother

@DerKlownstein

20 күн бұрын

Thanks my dude. And yeah I assume it’s the hype leading up to the DLC.

I've been thinking of getting a tattoo with this melody It encapsulates Miyazaki's work from origin to climax in a single leitmotif

Thank you youtube algorithm My eyes are open now +99 insight

Imagine someone saying "This is just a reuse. Why you having fun "

Allant vs Radagon would be epic. The worst betrayer, who sold his soul and his kingdom to the greatest devil, vs the most loyal follower of god, who gave his soul and his body to his goddess even efter she was rejected by the heavens.

@dziosdzynes7663

25 күн бұрын

Radagon IS Marika

@the_furry_inside_your_walls639

19 күн бұрын

They were two different people before Marika was punished by the Greater Will and had her body taken away for the destruction of the elden ring. Radagon, on the flip side, tried to repair the ring and gave his body to do so. As a part of Marika's punishment, she'd be forced to share Radagon's body as he fruitless tries to repair the ring in vain.

@guibeck8259

17 күн бұрын

Ok lore lord

they used this motif and slight variations of it in lots of songs across all of their games

I knew there was a reason why I kept feeling a sense of familiarity before it played

Both are amazing soundtracks! Home is where the bonfire is!

I thought I was crazy! My ears perked up at that bit like "Wait a second!"

Although Demon's souls OST is my least favorite in the series, I still find it really good and nostalgic, really no OST from these games are bad in anyway, they're all great.

FINALLY SOMEONE POINTED THIS OUT I literally noticed it a few weeks ago

@DerKlownstein

18 күн бұрын

Hell yeah!

i played elden ring and demons souls remake back to back and i thought they were almost same.

@DerKlownstein

Ай бұрын

The original was so ahead of it’s time. The fundamentals haven’t changed. Love the remake too, it manages to keep a similar atmosphere and tone while adding its own flair with the new levels of photorealism. If anyone has a PS3 who liked the PS5 version, it could be a cool experience to play an old copy. They go for cheap I’m sure, the red platinum hits version too (just different packaging, same game).

When I first heard the Elden Ring main theme I thought it was going to be a successor to Demon's Souls

@DerKlownstein

Жыл бұрын

what’s demon souls

@untipo.

Жыл бұрын

It's a direct sequel of dark souls 3... That is a sequel of demon's soul

@questionablezoomer764

8 ай бұрын

@@DerKlownsteinoh so you don’t even know what you’re doing or talking about

@DerKlownstein

8 ай бұрын

@@questionablezoomer764 lmao, sure buddy

@questionablezoomer764

8 ай бұрын

@@DerKlownstein "wHaT’s dEmOn’S SoUlS?"

I like Demon Souls and Dark Souls 1 OST more then the newer games with all their choir like songs

@DerKlownstein

19 күн бұрын

I have definitely grown tired of going around every corner just to hear the same basic choir bullshit

@McDudes

19 күн бұрын

@@DerKlownstein Yeah only really fits in bloodborne

@DerKlownstein

19 күн бұрын

@McDudes I want to make it clear to anyone reading this far: I don’t think Souls boss music is “bad”, I just think it’s rarely distinct enough from other bosses for me to find it memorable or engaging. And yes, Bloodborne did very well with it imo.

@McDudes

19 күн бұрын

@@DerKlownstein Yeah I agree. Music is still good just that all tracks start blending into each other at some point. And aren't as memorable as something like Tower Knight in Demon Souls or Gwyn and Moonlight Butterfly is Dark Souls 1

OHHHHHH MY GOODNESS IS THIS PAYING HOMAGE TO ITS PREDECESSOR?

idk But Demons souls 'AaaaAaaaA' 🤝 Dark Souls 'Plin Plin plon'

I wonder if Miyazaki uses the same melody to make us think that these games are connected somehow...

Demon's souls

@DerKlownstein

Ай бұрын

Yes.

The Elden ring song reminded me of allants theme

Gosh !!!! 😮😮😮😮😮 That's great 👍🏻

Fromsoft LOOOVES this lil leitmotif. If you look for it, you’ll find it EVERYWHERE. It actually has a name! Can’t remember what it is though…

micolash’s theme as well as one reborn’s also reminisce this motif

@DerKlownstein

Жыл бұрын

Sorry, I don’t hear it. In The One Reborn I can hear a cello preceding the crescendo at the end that can be mistaken as this leitmotif, but it’s too distinct.

@ghostrhythm

Жыл бұрын

@@DerKlownstein in 2:34 micolash’s theme it reminded me a bit, but they are very different indeed

...wait, I recognize that from somewhere, is that not the same leitmotif from the Bloodborne Cleric Beast fight theme?

@the_furry_inside_your_walls639

19 күн бұрын

I think its in Micolash's and One Reborn's themese as well.

@MikeL-eo9lp

19 күн бұрын

@@the_furry_inside_your_walls639it all connects

We wuz demonz

Yooo! Didnt know people also knew!

I played Deltarune before either game so when I first heard it I was like “is that fucking Chaos King”

Accident? I think not

Nice

It's like pop vs indie

bro used same ableton template

If you didn't have enough with the recycled bosses in Elden ring now you have recycled music too. 10/10 Masterpiece GOTY

Gg

Demons souls ost are way better

I wonder if Fromsoft is trying to tie together all the Soulsborne games…? Elden Ring has Aliens just like Bloodborne and it implies that they landed on earth on a meteor, which was an old theory how the First Flame came into being

@DerKlownstein

Жыл бұрын

Pretty sure like pretty much everything they do it’s purely thematic. For example even Patches doesn’t really tie into the games canonically. He’s just kinda there cause Fromsoft made the game.

@Garl_Vinland

Жыл бұрын

@@DerKlownstein Yeah but things feel different in Elden Ring, like they are trying to make some kind of Soulsborne Universe out of it.

@untipo.

Жыл бұрын

​@@DerKlownstein no you can even canonically speak about the evolution of patches (except for armored core): * In demon's souls he become an undead (soul starved) * In dark souls he born Hollow (like everything was born before the disparity came), but thanks to Humanity (the dark soul) he could take back his human appearence * After the destruction seen in ringed city he went inside the painted world of ariandel and entered the paint made with the blood of the dark soul * Inside the blood painted world he studied a lot to transpass worlds and time and thanks to the help of a great one like Amygdala he succed in that... * Then he came back to the real world, that after the destruction seen in ringed city and the convolution of the world, it became the elden ring's world (a world inside the deep fog like demon's and dark soul)

@untipo.

Жыл бұрын

​@@Garl_Vinland you are totally right. Bloodborne is an evolution of the society inside Ashes of ariandel (werewolfs, hunters and a culture base on blood), instead elden ring's society is an evolution of what we have seen in ringed city and the age of the dark. If you are interested i can post some easter eggs... The only spoiler i can make you is that in elden ring (and dark soul) we are walking on the Old one's branches 😌

@DerKlownstein

Жыл бұрын

How is Amygdala in Dark Souls? Where does that come from?

They even reused a melody from a previous game. Couldn’t even keep it’s own identity with a unique theme song (especially because it’s a new IP), unlike any other main theme in these games. Hell even the Dark Souls games have more different main melodies from one another than DeS and ER, and they’re connected too.

@DerKlownstein

11 ай бұрын

please google “leitmotif” and read up on even a tad about music theory

@questionablezoomer764

11 ай бұрын

@@DerKlownstein why? I’m just saying I thought it was lazy for them to give such an obvious homage to DeS that it loses it’s own identity. One thing is subtlety (which I like), but here they reused the most recognizeable part and made it so obvious that they didn’t bother / lacked interest to make a unique theme song, like DS’s, BB, and Sekiro. I didn’t like that choice, among alot of other stuff in the game.

@tobigomez3069

10 ай бұрын

​@@questionablezoomer764and? It's a leitmotiv, and it's not something that only Miyazaki do, a lot of directors and creators do references or have a unique things as a mark of their job (the Moonlight Sword for example exist in almost every game that From Software made since Kingsfield)

@questionablezoomer764

8 ай бұрын

@@tobigomez3069 I think it’s lazy. We all know they could make a better one if it was unique, it’s not like it wouldn’t be great.

@DerKlownstein

Ай бұрын

@@questionablezoomer764 I hated Elden Ring, but there were good things about it.

Heu okkk … Stupid vidéo 👎🥱

@DerKlownstein

2 күн бұрын

thanks for watching