Demodulating signals with modDemix

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The first Make Noise module was the modDemod, released in early 2008. The name is short for modulation/demodulation, which is the process of extracting a signal from a carrier wave in communications technology, for example in radios. The modDemod has been out of production for a long time, but its legacy lives on in the modDemix.
A Morphagene Reel of this demodulated vocal track can be found at freesound.org/people/makenois...
www.makenoisemusic.com/modules...

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  • @brettnaucke
    @brettnaucke4 жыл бұрын

    the subliminal messages in this :)

  • @JubileeGiggles
    @JubileeGiggles3 жыл бұрын

    I was running voice recordings from my phone through my moddemix, but needed to refresh my info on how to use it. So now I am watching this video on my phone with the audio run through the moddemix and into headphones, and I think it's freaking awesome. Modception

  • @LaymensLament
    @LaymensLament2 жыл бұрын

    okay, this is a version of vocalsynth i can get behind. thanks for the great and clear explanation.

  • @MAKEN0ISEMUSIC

    @MAKEN0ISEMUSIC

    2 жыл бұрын

    Glad you enjoyed it!!

  • @blaythessteuer
    @blaythessteuer4 жыл бұрын

    so cool. this only further solidifies my stance that people that buy a shared system and then take the moddemix out to free up some HP are missing some cool stuff

  • @MAKEN0ISEMUSIC

    @MAKEN0ISEMUSIC

    4 жыл бұрын

    I often tell people I think it's our "most underrated" module, whatever that means

  • @jacobstern2150

    @jacobstern2150

    4 жыл бұрын

    When I was ordering my first batch of Eurorack modules I threw in a ModDemix because I was like, well it's not super expensive or space consuming and I guess I can use it as a VCA. Little did I know how much value I would find in that thing...

  • @andrewleonard2678

    @andrewleonard2678

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@jacobstern2150 -- same here, it was in my first stack of module purchases just last month, originally as a VCA+... I love finding new uses for it.

  • @CaptainAhorn
    @CaptainAhorn3 жыл бұрын

    This is a really good re-creation of the Star Wars radio communication effect heard in the Death Star attack. The effect was created by transmitting audio over single-sideband radio.

  • @hidetepes
    @hidetepes4 жыл бұрын

    Walker has that very particular gleam in his eye which only someone who spends as much time around a modular synth like he does would have and it borders on a welcomed aura of the best kind of insanity....Or maybe it`s just me idk

  • @MisterNiles

    @MisterNiles

    4 жыл бұрын

    I see it too. I suspect it may also have something to do with listening to many hours of lectures from the archives of Naropa Institute and Esselin. Maybe I'm only projecting. It's going around a lot these days.

  • @hidetepes

    @hidetepes

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@MisterNiles Surely that mixed with some quarantine side effects hah

  • @MAKEN0ISEMUSIC

    @MAKEN0ISEMUSIC

    4 жыл бұрын

    my background is mostly in "continental" philosophy. but i think you might just be picking up vibes from my left eyebrow, which curls up like Dali's mustache no matter what I do.

  • @theproblembelief7549

    @theproblembelief7549

    11 ай бұрын

    @@MAKEN0ISEMUSIC My background is in applied philosophy aka sociology. It is surprising how often I notice links between synth technology/music and e.g. Deleuze and Guattari!

  • @Oxix52
    @Oxix523 жыл бұрын

    Great video! I have often felt that the modDemix was a very underrated and underused(by me) module. It’s really cool that you used some of the images from that old moddemod video from 12 years ago.

  • @jaredmaly5161
    @jaredmaly51613 жыл бұрын

    this is great! Would love to see more modDemix videos!

  • @BrunoWiebelt
    @BrunoWiebelt4 жыл бұрын

    this videos are really good , because I learn something every time

  • @insoul8
    @insoul83 жыл бұрын

    I can recognize so many vocal effects in movies that were doing just this effect.

  • @Flohr
    @Flohr3 жыл бұрын

    Missed this one when it first posted but the KZread algo blessed me with it today. Great stuff Walker! And I agree with all the comments, ModDemix is amazing! One of my favorite Eurorack modules from any manufacturer.

  • @MAKEN0ISEMUSIC

    @MAKEN0ISEMUSIC

    3 жыл бұрын

    Glad you dug, Eric!

  • @theproblembelief7549
    @theproblembelief754911 ай бұрын

    This is such a good video. I have a Moddemix and it is such a powerful and essential model for me!

  • @MAKEN0ISEMUSIC

    @MAKEN0ISEMUSIC

    11 ай бұрын

    Glad you enjoy it!

  • @SpongeLab
    @SpongeLab4 жыл бұрын

    Great stuff, I really must get a shared system the possibilities are endless, fantastic!!!!

  • @CatFish107
    @CatFish107 Жыл бұрын

    You just showed me how they did a lot of the vocal fx in the original starwars movies. Super recognizable. Thanks for the "aha!" moment.

  • @MartinDoudoroffLLC
    @MartinDoudoroffLLC4 жыл бұрын

    Fun and splendidly educational!

  • @MAKEN0ISEMUSIC

    @MAKEN0ISEMUSIC

    4 жыл бұрын

    Thank you!

  • @woodlandcritterpunch
    @woodlandcritterpunch4 жыл бұрын

    Man I've been away from euro and syntha in general for a bit now to work on visual stuff but I think you might have just put the spark back in me. Great as usual

  • @MAKEN0ISEMUSIC

    @MAKEN0ISEMUSIC

    4 жыл бұрын

    Glad to hear it! Happy patching :)

  • @NutritionalZero
    @NutritionalZero4 жыл бұрын

    Due to the pandemic and cutting my own hair for months, my hair accidentally looks exactly like Walker’s now. I’m very happy and will continue cutting my own hair.

  • @MAKEN0ISEMUSIC

    @MAKEN0ISEMUSIC

    4 жыл бұрын

    Haha, nice! I got this -do when i requested something "bed-head proof" and I've stuck with it for the last 4 years or so -W

  • @LeonTrimble

    @LeonTrimble

    4 жыл бұрын

    Do you also look like your own zoom recorder?

  • @db_illin
    @db_illin24 күн бұрын

    Awesome video!

  • @paulkomada1917
    @paulkomada19172 жыл бұрын

    Finally I got the contact :) Thanks for the message

  • @sweepstakes
    @sweepstakes4 жыл бұрын

    Thanks for waiting for me to buy a ModDemix before releasing this video 😁

  • @ryanpage4006
    @ryanpage40063 жыл бұрын

    I just sold my moddemod and replaced it with a moddemix, it took me a while to build a clone of the original moddemod that had the same tone of the original. Even with a minuscule number of parts (two basic components repeated throughout), it's amazing how much variation can occur. I'm glad that moddemix can reproduce some of the qualities that I loved about the original, but... the clone I built is not leaving my home system anytime soon. Tony really has an ear for interesting sounds.

  • @galenbaby
    @galenbaby Жыл бұрын

    My palete must be expanding, because this hit the spot tonight.

  • @thomas_ad
    @thomas_ad4 жыл бұрын

    Absolutely genius piece marking the dawn of post-post-Modular infotube

  • @MAKEN0ISEMUSIC

    @MAKEN0ISEMUSIC

    4 жыл бұрын

    Are we already two "posts" in? Oh my how time flies... :P

  • @dwightpeters
    @dwightpeters4 жыл бұрын

    Such a great video! You did prove, though, the other uses other than fun by getting so many unique tones and textures

  • @MAKEN0ISEMUSIC

    @MAKEN0ISEMUSIC

    4 жыл бұрын

    Haha, good point. Thanks for watching!

  • @alexbarn
    @alexbarn4 жыл бұрын

    Another great video!!

  • @MAKEN0ISEMUSIC

    @MAKEN0ISEMUSIC

    4 жыл бұрын

    Glad you like them!

  • @vibe010
    @vibe0102 жыл бұрын

    Mind blown!

  • @CinematicLaboratory
    @CinematicLaboratory4 жыл бұрын

    Totally awesome video. I know it's described in the manual but for some weird reason I did not get it - even though it's so obvious when you see this video. This doesn't mean the manual is bad, it just needs audio :). Thanks a lot!

  • @MAKEN0ISEMUSIC

    @MAKEN0ISEMUSIC

    4 жыл бұрын

    The manual may describe using a single sine for both inputs, or maybe inverting it for one of them. I think the dual sine as shown here is quite more interesting :)

  • @KeithCanisius
    @KeithCanisius4 жыл бұрын

    Love this stuff

  • @MAKEN0ISEMUSIC

    @MAKEN0ISEMUSIC

    4 жыл бұрын

    Thanks for watching!

  • @rodrigoperez-segnini5704
    @rodrigoperez-segnini57044 жыл бұрын

    Haha, so I just bought a modDemix, thanks for the inspiration!

  • @MAKEN0ISEMUSIC

    @MAKEN0ISEMUSIC

    4 жыл бұрын

    Awesome, happy patching!

  • @rodrigoperez-segnini5704

    @rodrigoperez-segnini5704

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@MAKEN0ISEMUSIC I'll share videos once it gets here.

  • @mimcri
    @mimcri4 жыл бұрын

    so cool ... i stilllovethemodDemix

  • @MAKEN0ISEMUSIC

    @MAKEN0ISEMUSIC

    4 жыл бұрын

    Me too!!

  • @midirausch
    @midirausch4 жыл бұрын

    This was awesome thanks

  • @MAKEN0ISEMUSIC

    @MAKEN0ISEMUSIC

    4 жыл бұрын

    Thanks for watching!

  • @apparently_sonam
    @apparently_sonam4 жыл бұрын

    Knowledge! Walker's glasses are definitely off! Pow!

  • @MAKEN0ISEMUSIC

    @MAKEN0ISEMUSIC

    4 жыл бұрын

    Once I figure out how to speak animatedly without the lighting setup reflecting off them in a distracting way, they may return...

  • @disastrousrobots
    @disastrousrobots4 жыл бұрын

    Cool, I'm live sampling radio signals into my mixes using my amateur radio gear! Hope to share a few videos of this

  • @MAKEN0ISEMUSIC

    @MAKEN0ISEMUSIC

    4 жыл бұрын

    Please do! Link in these comments!

  • @disastrousrobots

    @disastrousrobots

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@MAKEN0ISEMUSIC fab, here's an example of where I headed kzread.info/dash/bejne/eJ-Aw7h7qpOxncY.html

  • @h.r.terror9421
    @h.r.terror94214 жыл бұрын

    Damn you guys. Just ordered the moddemix 2014.

  • @MAKEN0ISEMUSIC

    @MAKEN0ISEMUSIC

    4 жыл бұрын

    Hope you enjoy! Happy patching :)

  • @h.r.terror9421

    @h.r.terror9421

    4 жыл бұрын

    MAKEN0ISE I wasn’t expecting to have GAS today. 😜

  • @edjwise
    @edjwise4 жыл бұрын

    I am loving the at home series. I am sure that you have a lot of ideas, but I wanted to ask if you can revisit trainlet synthesis?

  • @MAKEN0ISEMUSIC

    @MAKEN0ISEMUSIC

    4 жыл бұрын

    Yeah, that'd be fun! The last time I did those I think it was mostly in mono, so going deeper could be a good time :D

  • @kenschestok9515
    @kenschestok95154 жыл бұрын

    ... and I have another module to add to the “really need to get” list!

  • @kenschestok9515

    @kenschestok9515

    Жыл бұрын

    2 years later from my original comment, I have picked one up and am rewatching this to make sure I'm not missing anything on using it.... love the subliminal splice @1:02 mark!

  • @oldsoulsound
    @oldsoulsound4 жыл бұрын

    Hey curious are you just going from the zoom straight into the ModDeMix? Great demo by the way.

  • @MAKEN0ISEMUSIC

    @MAKEN0ISEMUSIC

    4 жыл бұрын

    I boosted the signal with the preamp in the CV Bus.

  • @RioRoye
    @RioRoye2 жыл бұрын

    Beautiful examples! Are you running the output of the zoom through a preamp before patching it into the system? Sounds like it's at a modular volume level already.

  • @MAKEN0ISEMUSIC

    @MAKEN0ISEMUSIC

    2 жыл бұрын

    Yes, it is being run through the preamp at the left end of the CV Bus.

  • @RioRoye

    @RioRoye

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@MAKEN0ISEMUSIC ahhh ok. Thanks for clarifying!

  • @p07a
    @p07a4 жыл бұрын

    Great video. You can hear some side bands in there which sounds like frequency-shifting. I wonder if it’s possible to emulate the Bode filter/freq shift with the system.

  • @MAKEN0ISEMUSIC

    @MAKEN0ISEMUSIC

    4 жыл бұрын

    i've wondered the same myself. It requires waves that are phase shifted in quadrature and if I recall correctly, fairly precise tuning. Allen Strange has a number of interesting applications of frequency shifters that I hope to explore in video someday.

  • @p07a

    @p07a

    4 жыл бұрын

    MAKEN0ISE I look forward to it if it ever happens!

  • @ateb213

    @ateb213

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@MAKEN0ISEMUSIC please that would be great!

  • @MisterNiles
    @MisterNiles4 жыл бұрын

    was that a young Patti Smith or was it Sad Barrett? What were you saying about radios? AM something?

  • @jimmy_jamesjams_a_lot4171
    @jimmy_jamesjams_a_lot41714 жыл бұрын

    I ALWAYS wondered how George Lucas got those funky radio sounds in his early student film, ‘THX 1138 EB, Electronic Labyrinth’! I always thought they were just using actual radio receivers somehow and adjusting the tuner slightly. These crazy radio effects can do a lot to add some spunky character to sounds. THANKS FOR SHARING!!

  • @MAKEN0ISEMUSIC

    @MAKEN0ISEMUSIC

    4 жыл бұрын

    Yes, this is really fun to explore on almost any sound! Thanks for watching and commenting :)

  • @FelipeTellez
    @FelipeTellez4 жыл бұрын

    !?!? cool!!!!

  • @geraldgoodiii6993
    @geraldgoodiii69934 жыл бұрын

    The modemix can also be made to self oscillate with a feedback loop. So can the OPTOMIX .. funny thing is for something to get stuck in a feedback loop there needs to be something to FEED BACK.. but in these cases there isn’t .. ghosts in the machines I guess. Shared System is just a lot of ghosts in a box. I’ve had mine for like 4-5 years now . I don’t crack it out as much as I used to or have time for (deadlines on releases and life stuff).. but it’s always a treat still to this day. I’m still rockin the original CV Bus one. I added the Erbeverb (yup.. didn’t come with back then), MMG, and an additional function generator (Function).. why do I never see people adding that third function generator ?

  • @MAKEN0ISEMUSIC

    @MAKEN0ISEMUSIC

    4 жыл бұрын

    Well, there's no such thing as total silence and "no-input" feedback methods are a great way to exploit this :)

  • @Valeofthesilent
    @Valeofthesilent4 жыл бұрын

    Arite Walk, wheres my morphagene reel with the offset modulated voice part? It’s absolutely relevant to my interests.

  • @MAKEN0ISEMUSIC

    @MAKEN0ISEMUSIC

    4 жыл бұрын

    Here ya go freesound.org/people/makenoisemusic/sounds/528156/

  • @Valeofthesilent

    @Valeofthesilent

    4 жыл бұрын

    MAKEN0ISE Aaaaaw man thanks a lot, feels so good knowing one can always count on you, pure genius!

  • @juliantaylor5956
    @juliantaylor59564 жыл бұрын

    I immediately thought about Star Wars Republic Commando

  • @MAKEN0ISEMUSIC

    @MAKEN0ISEMUSIC

    4 жыл бұрын

    haven't played it, is it a particular sound or phrase that reminds you of it?

  • @juliantaylor5956

    @juliantaylor5956

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@MAKEN0ISEMUSIC Yeah there's this part in the beginning of the game's intro cut scene where you're in a republic gunship and there's radio chatter and it sounds exactly like the first moment you used the mic. I have no doubt the created it through similar means. In fact most of comms sound design probably used similar modulation, which is cool because it adds some realism in a way

  • @MAKEN0ISEMUSIC

    @MAKEN0ISEMUSIC

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@juliantaylor5956 this is interesting to me because one of my favorite podcasts (Dev Game Club) is hosted by Brett Douville, the lead designer of that game. -W

  • @juliantaylor5956

    @juliantaylor5956

    4 жыл бұрын

    MAKEN0ISE Oh wow! Small world haha. It’s definitely one of my favorite games so props to the devs! I might check out that podcast too, it sounds interesting

  • @mattschurenko3032
    @mattschurenko30323 жыл бұрын

    Isn’t the carrier the signal that is being modulated/demodulated?

  • @sfiche
    @sfiche4 жыл бұрын

    not sure what I’d do if my boss asked me to “say it in tune with the carrier waveform.” does that mean emulating the waveform with your voice?

  • @MAKEN0ISEMUSIC

    @MAKEN0ISEMUSIC

    4 жыл бұрын

    the modulating VCOs are tuned to a frequency, so singing a word in tune with that frequency will have a different effect from normal speech. the voices in that clip were from 2008, when Tony was the sole employee of Make Noise - Kelly, the other voice, is now the CEO so nobody's anybody's boss in that soundbite, FYI :)

  • @TRaddcliff
    @TRaddcliff4 жыл бұрын

    the pay attention subliminal message distracted ha ha ha. it caused me to lose you. ad Jodi Foster

  • @fakshen1973
    @fakshen19734 жыл бұрын

    All Star Wars radio communications.

  • @Headforthehillsmusic

    @Headforthehillsmusic

    4 жыл бұрын

    100% my first thought.

  • @JubileeGiggles
    @JubileeGiggles3 жыл бұрын

    rebel fleet

  • @pugix
    @pugix4 жыл бұрын

    Walker, now let's hear what modulation/demodulation with FM sounds like!

  • @MAKEN0ISEMUSIC

    @MAKEN0ISEMUSIC

    4 жыл бұрын

    That might be trickier. How would you do it, Richard?

  • @ModArch

    @ModArch

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@MAKEN0ISEMUSIC FM modulation is covered in all Oscillators with FM inputs, right? And if I remember my classes on comms engineering correctly, a crude FM demodulation can be achieved by using a PLL circuit tuned to the carrier frequency. Phase and frequency offsets between mod and demod carrier might yield some interesting sounds.

  • @KF7IJZ
    @KF7IJZ3 жыл бұрын

    No one thought the Cybermen from Doctor Who???

  • @pavolw4560
    @pavolw4560 Жыл бұрын

    hello, im courious...can moddemix handle audio signal from external gear? or is external input module needed?

  • @MAKEN0ISEMUSIC

    @MAKEN0ISEMUSIC

    Жыл бұрын

    modDemix does not amplify the signal, you will usually need some kind of preamp if you want to get a modular level signal out of it.

  • @blush_response
    @blush_response4 жыл бұрын

    Contact!!!!!!!!!!

  • @MAKEN0ISEMUSIC

    @MAKEN0ISEMUSIC

    4 жыл бұрын

    good eye ;)

  • @studio48nl
    @studio48nl4 жыл бұрын

    @3:09, shouldn't you demodulate with an inverted signal? How does it work?

  • @MAKEN0ISEMUSIC

    @MAKEN0ISEMUSIC

    4 жыл бұрын

    Yes, probably technically should but I didn't want to slow down the runtime too much, and the difference is actually pretty minimal.

  • @studio48nl

    @studio48nl

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@MAKEN0ISEMUSIC aha, thanks. 👌🏼👍🏼

  • @Frozen_Smoke1972
    @Frozen_Smoke19724 жыл бұрын

    Nothing but Oof! as far as the eye can see.

  • @Odihmantich
    @Odihmantich7 ай бұрын

    Is there a way to make the modulator signal not bleed into the resulting sound? thanks

  • @MAKEN0ISEMUSIC

    @MAKEN0ISEMUSIC

    7 ай бұрын

    If you demodulate using a multed copy of the modulator, instead of a second oscillator tuned to the same frequency, then you will hear what “accurate” demodulation would sound like. This will have less apparent presence of the demodulator in the sound, but may also not be as sonically interesting.

  • @Odihmantich

    @Odihmantich

    7 ай бұрын

    No, I mean at 2:38 as soon as you begin monitoring the output, as I understand we hear the modulator signal even before your voice is introduced. Is there a way to avoid that? Like so that there would be silence between your spoken words.

  • @danwomack8523
    @danwomack85234 жыл бұрын

    Those subliminal messages make me want to club baby seals. #MakeNoiseControlsMyThoughts

  • @Boneless_Chuck
    @Boneless_Chuck3 жыл бұрын

    "Chapstick"

  • @jangbi08
    @jangbi084 жыл бұрын

    I’m I the only one thinking of ‘Prince of Darkness’? “This is not a dream... We are using your brain's electrical system as a receiver”

  • @MAKEN0ISEMUSIC

    @MAKEN0ISEMUSIC

    4 жыл бұрын

    Haven't seen it but I will now!

  • @jangbi08

    @jangbi08

    4 жыл бұрын

    MAKEN0ISE kzread.info/dash/bejne/c2iMls2dc6q-fZM.html it also features a decent synth heavy soundtrack!!

  • @levkamenev3904

    @levkamenev3904

    3 жыл бұрын

    OMG I love that movie!!! Its one of my favorite background films when I'm working on recording!

  • @jeanfatale
    @jeanfatale Жыл бұрын

    I still don't get this. :D

  • @ourworld215
    @ourworld2154 жыл бұрын

    pay attention its a satellite no a tesla tower no harp ahhh its all fuzzy ...fuzzier

  • @LarcTald
    @LarcTald4 жыл бұрын

    Malcom X

  • @MAKEN0ISEMUSIC

    @MAKEN0ISEMUSIC

    4 жыл бұрын

    Flattered, even if I’m not sure I see the connection ⚡️

  • @LarcTald

    @LarcTald

    4 жыл бұрын

    ​@@MAKEN0ISEMUSIC Haha! That's what I hear in the intro -)

  • @alanc6752
    @alanc67524 жыл бұрын

    Pay attention...lol

  • @alanc6752

    @alanc6752

    4 жыл бұрын

    Excellent video.

  • @MAKEN0ISEMUSIC

    @MAKEN0ISEMUSIC

    4 жыл бұрын

    Thanks!

  • @HyrimBot
    @HyrimBot2 жыл бұрын

    lol

  • @BrunoWiebelt
    @BrunoWiebelt4 жыл бұрын

    PAY ATTENTION lol

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