DELEGATION in Power Apps | Must Know to build efficient Apps

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In this Power Apps tutorial video, we will dive deep into the KEY concept of DELEGATION in Power Apps that every App developer needs to understand for building efficient and performant applications. Working with large data sets requires using data sources and formulas that can be delegated and hence it's important to understand differences between delegable and non-delegable queries against different data sources. Key is to write Power Apps formulas that support delegation against delegable data sources like SharePoint, Dataverse, SQL.
We will learn how delegation works to minimize the amount of data that must be brought to your device. Delegation is where Power Apps will delegate the processing of data to the data source, rather than moving the data to the app for processing it locally.
We will explore how a Gallery loads data from a large data source in batches when delegable queries are performed (optimized loading of data), understand the network calls in play using Monitor, learn about PowerApps "data row limit" (500 - 2000 data row limit), learn how to write delegable formulas to work with large data sets, learn how collections, variables etc. work when delegation is in play, learn how certain formulas may not display a delegation warning and much more..
This video is a must-watch for anyone looking to deep dive into Power Apps DELEGATION - A key concept that every Power App Maker, whether a beginner or an expert, must be aware of.
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Table of Contents:
00:00 - Introduction to delegation in Power Apps
00:30 - What is delegation?
01:19 - Delegation in action with large data source (SharePoint List)
02:15 - Gallery optimized loading of data
03:35 - Which data sources and queries support Delegation?
04:35 - Data row limit for Non-delegable query
06:52 - How to identify delegation warnings in your Power App?
07:42 - Write delegable queries in Power Apps
09:26 - Hidden delegation challenges - Watch out
10:45 - Partial delegation with Collections and Variables
12:34 - Must Know about delegation

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  • @nickc655
    @nickc6554 ай бұрын

    Yet another awesome video Reza. Thank you so much!

  • @RezaDorrani

    @RezaDorrani

    4 ай бұрын

    You’re most welcome

  • @lpm76
    @lpm76Ай бұрын

    The advice to stich together collections to load large data sets is probably the most shared (bad) advice in the community. Thank you for making such an excellent video that highlights this.

  • @RezaDorrani

    @RezaDorrani

    Ай бұрын

    I couldn't agree more. What surprises me is that folks are using those techniques to avoid delegation.

  • @lpm76

    @lpm76

    Ай бұрын

    ​@@RezaDorrani I think it is because delegation is sometimes explained as the maximum number of rows PowerApps is able to work with, which is not true at all! A better explanation would be: It is the maximum number of rows it SHOULD work with, but LOCALLY and not server side. The example where you scrolled to the second page of your dataset showed this so beautifully together with the row count. It showed that when you respect delegation, PowerApps will actually help you paginate your dataset and ensure you still get the correct result from your queries. I mean how nice is that?! You don't even have to do anything; Power Apps just handles it for you. I stitched together collections in the beginning because I read bad advice and the worst thing about it, is that it kinda works; it performs badly, but it gets the job done. It was only later until I learned about delegation from gurus like you and Shane, that I understood my approach was severely flawed, and that by understanding delegation I realized that it makes my life much easier. I simply didn't understand that PowerApps could filter 1.000.000 rows server side trough delegable queries, but still be limited to only show 500/2000 rows locally. But it makes sense when you think about as you said, that the whole system is in place to urge you to minimize the amount of traffic between the app and the server. I still have many apps where the delegation is set to 2000 rows, but when you think about, how often do you really need to present more than 500 records to the user at the same time? Probably never. And how many apps have tables with more than 500 records? Probably all of them. Delegation works brilliantly when you understand it, and that's why I wanted to show my appreciation for your work Reza, because your video can improve the whole Power Apps community in a place where it is most needed.

  • @KartheekReddy5
    @KartheekReddy54 ай бұрын

    Great Video as usual. Thanks for the Info

  • @mikemorrison1931
    @mikemorrison19314 ай бұрын

    That testing tip for setting return query to "1" row was awesome!

  • @RezaDorrani

    @RezaDorrani

    4 ай бұрын

    👍

  • @KaiWeissmann
    @KaiWeissmann4 ай бұрын

    Thanks for this great overview of Delegation!

  • @RezaDorrani

    @RezaDorrani

    4 ай бұрын

    Most welcome

  • @hamytube
    @hamytube4 ай бұрын

    Thank you @Reza, for another excellent and informative video . Tons of thanks. 👍

  • @bwebmasta1
    @bwebmasta13 ай бұрын

    Great video as usual, very informative!

  • @raslaankhan5146
    @raslaankhan51464 ай бұрын

    Thank you for a refresher!!!

  • @RezaDorrani

    @RezaDorrani

    4 ай бұрын

    Welcome!!!

  • @dougydoe
    @dougydoe4 ай бұрын

    A really good refresher course on this all important topic. Hopefully, a few more functions will become delegable soon. Thanks for sharing. Appreciated.

  • @RezaDorrani

    @RezaDorrani

    4 ай бұрын

    Glad it was helpful!

  • @shubhamkoolwal139
    @shubhamkoolwal139Ай бұрын

    informative and well explained with example...

  • @RezaDorrani

    @RezaDorrani

    Ай бұрын

    Thanks

  • @vigneswarikrishnakumar5895
    @vigneswarikrishnakumar58954 ай бұрын

    Well explained Reza. This really helps.

  • @RezaDorrani

    @RezaDorrani

    4 ай бұрын

    Glad to hear that

  • @user-de2kl6mh9k
    @user-de2kl6mh9k4 ай бұрын

    Thank you for this useful reminder

  • @RezaDorrani

    @RezaDorrani

    4 ай бұрын

    Always welcome

  • @oluwatobiyusuf
    @oluwatobiyusuf2 ай бұрын

    Thank you another amazing video, Reza

  • @RezaDorrani

    @RezaDorrani

    2 ай бұрын

    My pleasure!

  • @shaikhfirdos2723
    @shaikhfirdos27234 ай бұрын

    Amazing tips as always ❤❤ Thanks Reza

  • @RezaDorrani

    @RezaDorrani

    4 ай бұрын

    Glad you like them!

  • @djpowerage
    @djpowerage4 ай бұрын

    Thanks!

  • @RezaDorrani

    @RezaDorrani

    4 ай бұрын

    Welcome!

  • @josephcarlos8463
    @josephcarlos84634 ай бұрын

    Dude you are amazing. I learn best from examples like you show. Thank you so much. The Superbowl is on right now and I'm learning from your video. I'm learning here to advance my personal power, otherwise I would be wasting time. Thanks :)

  • @josephcarlos8463

    @josephcarlos8463

    4 ай бұрын

    BTW what version are your currently using?

  • @RezaDorrani

    @RezaDorrani

    4 ай бұрын

    Thanks so much! Enjoy the super bowl.

  • @RezaDorrani

    @RezaDorrani

    4 ай бұрын

    version of?

  • @MrLuizclaudio09
    @MrLuizclaudio094 ай бұрын

    1:13 Very Good

  • @bestyapper
    @bestyapper4 ай бұрын

    Awesome video Reza. In regards to collection, one of my client keeps insisting that we load 6k to 8k into a collection and I have to use concurrent function. Takes about 30 secs and the app's performance is slightly worse, not App breaking but not as nice at all.

  • @RezaDorrani

    @RezaDorrani

    4 ай бұрын

    Loading > 2k records is not advisable. Performance will take a hit.

  • @victorconnan6282
    @victorconnan62824 ай бұрын

    Great video as always! I saw in documentation the 'in' Fonction is delegable in dataverse but I try to filter a gallery on a multi choices column and get delegation warning. Does a workaround exists? I try addcolumn(concat to filter on string but performance is not great because the app needs to collect the whole table.

  • @RezaDorrani

    @RezaDorrani

    4 ай бұрын

    in is delegable for certain data types not all. Check documentation.

  • @tausifshaikh312
    @tausifshaikh3122 ай бұрын

    It's been great Reza sir if you post on your experienced basis,scenario based interview questions its been really helpful for us You are Gem 💎💎 for us Regards

  • @RezaDorrani

    @RezaDorrani

    2 ай бұрын

    That is not an area I am well aware of.

  • @nirjasmuhammed
    @nirjasmuhammed4 ай бұрын

    if the function is non delegable then the intellisense should be showing the delegation warning,..... surprised to know the issue with ' with ' function ... thanks for this amazing video sir............

  • @RezaDorrani

    @RezaDorrani

    4 ай бұрын

    I agree that the warning must be shown. I will take that feedback to the team.

  • @MuFeR.

    @MuFeR.

    4 ай бұрын

    "With" not having a warning is expected in the example shown at ~10:40, it would be the same as if you did 1) ClearCollect(colStudentData, Students), 2) Filter(colStudentData, Region.Value "South") (no delegation)

  • @DavidAdediran

    @DavidAdediran

    4 ай бұрын

    ​@@MuFeR. I agree. Delegation warnings should only be for functions that is expected to work in the data source. With is a purely Power Apps function that can not be delegated. So a warning is misleading.

  • @adityapadmawar8754
    @adityapadmawar87544 ай бұрын

    Very well explained Reza sir! Thanks for creating this video. I have seen Power Apps slowing down with 1000 rows in SP list. What is the best or recommended source/backend for any Power App?

  • @RezaDorrani

    @RezaDorrani

    4 ай бұрын

    Thanks! There is no single answer to best data source. Answer is "it depends". I deep dived into this concept during the LIVE training workshops.

  • @adityapadmawar8754

    @adityapadmawar8754

    4 ай бұрын

    @@RezaDorrani Okay..thanks

  • @JohnHall
    @JohnHall4 ай бұрын

    1) Don't trust the warnings for delegation (either that they do or don't show as delegable) 2) Delegation ONLY becomes an issue for your apps if the dataset gets large (>500 or >2000 once you change the defaults). 3) You can test to see if you have some delegation issues by setting an abnormally low query limit for your app (down from 500 to a smaller #) 4) All Delegation issues can be solved through better queries, better data organization, using Power Automate & ParseJSON, etc. (which all mean Dataverse isn't required to solve delegation issues in most scenarios) 5) Microsoft is likely to push better delegation features within Dataverse first (but that doesn't mean you should use Dataverse unless your app requires it or your organization is focused on supporting Dataverse more widely)

  • @RezaDorrani

    @RezaDorrani

    4 ай бұрын

    Thanks for sharing

  • @ManojShukla31
    @ManojShukla312 ай бұрын

    Hello Reza, It's again a nice video. I have question regarding delegation. I set delegation limit to 2000 (that is max limit) in this case if my search result crosses the limit i would get only 2000 records, how do i get rest data which couildn't come beacuase of limit.

  • @RezaDorrani

    @RezaDorrani

    2 ай бұрын

    Welcome! Thats the limitation if your query is not delegable. Better not to use search function and use StartsWith in that scenario.

  • @tonya3308
    @tonya33082 ай бұрын

    Great videos! Do you know how to turn the Comments off when using the Edit mode in PowerApps?

  • @RezaDorrani

    @RezaDorrani

    2 ай бұрын

    I am not aware as I have not come across anyone wanting to turn it off. Check documentation and see if there is something provided for it.

  • @michelelomonaco5118
    @michelelomonaco5118Ай бұрын

    Good morning Reza, I have a sharepoint table with 2 columns, the first: ID_PARENT is numeric and the second PROJECT is a text and contains 8500 records. If I use the Filter(StartsWith(PROJECT,"PROJECT001")) function I get all the records of PROJECT001, if instead I use the Filter(StartsWith(ID_PARENT, 10)) function I get only the data that are in the first 2000 records. Maybe the problem is that you can't use StartsWith with numeric fields? Thank you.

  • @RezaDorrani

    @RezaDorrani

    Ай бұрын

    you can't use StartsWith with numeric fields

  • @michelelomonaco5118

    @michelelomonaco5118

    Ай бұрын

    @@RezaDorrani Thank you.

  • @udayreddy2605
    @udayreddy26054 ай бұрын

    Hi Reza, Thanks for this video. Really Helpful. Quick Question: I am working with around 0.5 Million rows SQL table. On this table we need to perform a group by operation and create landing page and for slicers we need to perform a distinct on column and get all different values from that column. The challenge here now is Group by & Distinct are non delegable Power Fx functions when connected to a SQL connector. There is no way that I can found to do this with other delegable functions. How do we approach this problem now?

  • @adarshmc8158

    @adarshmc8158

    4 ай бұрын

    Create sql views

  • @RezaDorrani

    @RezaDorrani

    4 ай бұрын

    Table shaping functions are not delegable. Sql views may be an option

  • @udayreddy2605

    @udayreddy2605

    4 ай бұрын

    ​@@adarshmc8158 @RezaDorrani - Thanks for the idea, I can create a sql view for group by post which also I will end up with a table greater than 2000 rows, On this table if I am using distinct its still an issue as it picks up the values from only first 2000 rows and I end up not having all unique values from my column. Anny idea on how do I tackle this after creating Views. Thanks in Advance

  • @user-bo4qe9ww5n
    @user-bo4qe9ww5n2 ай бұрын

    Thanks for this great video. Very Helpful!! May we use Power Automate to bring more than 2000 items to Power Apps and keep them into a collection? Using Get Items action?

  • @RezaDorrani

    @RezaDorrani

    2 ай бұрын

    Welcome! Delegation over anything. Why do you need to load 2000 records in collection via flow?

  • @user-bo4qe9ww5n

    @user-bo4qe9ww5n

    2 ай бұрын

    To avoid the delegation issue. I understand we should not work with large local collections but, sometimes, it can help when you need to use non delegable queries as CountRows or Distinct and the number of records are, e.g., between 1 and 10000 (no more).

  • @RezaDorrani

    @RezaDorrani

    2 ай бұрын

    @@user-bo4qe9ww5n I would not recommend doing that as it will have performance implications. Thats why one has to use better data sources like Dataverse that offers max flexibility in terms of delegation and more.

  • @ABCD-ABCDEFGH
    @ABCD-ABCDEFGH4 ай бұрын

    So it’s not a good idea to load sharpoint data in collections and use collections as data source? Should we connect to SharePoint data source directly if your records are more than 2k?

  • @RezaDorrani

    @RezaDorrani

    4 ай бұрын

    Collection is not a data source. It is only a space to temporarily load data for the users session. Best to connect directly to data sources.

  • @balaji830
    @balaji8302 ай бұрын

    I have a really large list with about 90K records. Filter and StartsWith does not show any records. I don't see any delegation warning but no results either. To be precise, it is very errant in showing results. Sometimes I see results and sometimes I don't even when I know there are records that start with the term provided.

  • @RezaDorrani

    @RezaDorrani

    2 ай бұрын

    Depends upon the query you have framed. I have not come across any issues with lists > 500k records as well. I recommend posting your issue/query with screenshots on the forums at powerusers.microsoft.com

  • @kevindibb6534
    @kevindibb653415 күн бұрын

    I have a SQL (Synapse) datasource with about 60,000 records. What's the best way to work with this?

  • @RezaDorrani

    @RezaDorrani

    15 күн бұрын

    I have no clue about that

  • @dhavalbendale5509
    @dhavalbendale55094 ай бұрын

    Hey Reza, can you pleaseeee let me know how to get the attachments through ms forms. Setting is disabled for external users, but i need it anyhow to put the documents as attachments in the saem list item created by form submitted. Please Help!!!

  • @RezaDorrani

    @RezaDorrani

    4 ай бұрын

    I have done videos on it. Ms forms anonymous users - there is no option for attachments. If setting is disabled - there is no other option that Im aware of.

  • @dhavalbendale5509

    @dhavalbendale5509

    4 ай бұрын

    Thanks for swift reply. But can you pleasee let me know any other options but ms forms to get the responses as well as attachments from external organisations into our sharepoint.

  • @RezaDorrani

    @RezaDorrani

    4 ай бұрын

    @@dhavalbendale5509 Im not aware of other options.

  • @annisamegarestya8800
    @annisamegarestya88002 ай бұрын

    Hi Reza, If I want to make an app that can connect Dataverse and Web Apps, Can we make a connection between them?

  • @RezaDorrani

    @RezaDorrani

    2 ай бұрын

    Whats web apps? Power apps can connect to multiple data sources.

  • @annisamegarestya8800

    @annisamegarestya8800

    2 ай бұрын

    @@RezaDorrani Can we input data from a web (HTML, CSS, JavaScript) to a dataverse?

  • @RezaDorrani

    @RezaDorrani

    2 ай бұрын

    @@annisamegarestya8800 Not that I am aware of

  • @ankithguptha5184
    @ankithguptha51844 ай бұрын

    How to upload multiple files to dataverse record and save it to share point doc library.And send notification email to user in that particular dataverse record with multiple documents attached in the email

  • @RezaDorrani

    @RezaDorrani

    4 ай бұрын

    I do not have a video reference on this scenario and would have to try it out to provide guidance. I recommend checking or posting your query on forums in case someone has done something similar powerusers.microsoft.com

  • @malikhan0123
    @malikhan01234 ай бұрын

    CAN we show more than 2k line items in gallery, gallery is delegable or not

  • @RezaDorrani

    @RezaDorrani

    4 ай бұрын

    Thats what the video explains. If query is delegable and you keep scrolling down, gallery will keep loading all the data.

  • @malikhan0123

    @malikhan0123

    4 ай бұрын

    @@RezaDorrani i mean can it load after 2k line items..it would be good if you shown that in video

  • @RezaDorrani

    @RezaDorrani

    4 ай бұрын

    @@malikhan0123 Try it out and see. It will load as many as you need. I dont see any user doing that though as scrolling to get data to find is not ideal. Better to have good filters on screen.

  • @NimbusBI
    @NimbusBI18 сағат бұрын

    how to handle countrows function under a filter query? like: CountRows(Filter(datasource,logic)) > 10

  • @RezaDorrani

    @RezaDorrani

    18 сағат бұрын

    Countrows is not a delegate function unless you use dataverse (limits are documented)

  • @jeevithaelango671
    @jeevithaelango67122 күн бұрын

    Hi Reza, can you please help me to load more than 6000 records in powerapps

  • @RezaDorrani

    @RezaDorrani

    21 күн бұрын

    If you keep scrolling in gallery it will load as many as you need

  • @KrishnaKumari-tr2vi
    @KrishnaKumari-tr2vi4 ай бұрын

    😢😢😢😢😢

  • @RezaDorrani

    @RezaDorrani

    4 ай бұрын

    Good or bad?

  • @KrishnaKumari-tr2vi
    @KrishnaKumari-tr2vi4 ай бұрын

    Ko

  • @RezaDorrani

    @RezaDorrani

    4 ай бұрын

    ?

  • @KrishnaKumari-tr2vi
    @KrishnaKumari-tr2vi4 ай бұрын

    V। ❤❤❤❤❤😂😂

  • @RezaDorrani

    @RezaDorrani

    4 ай бұрын

    ?

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