It was beautiful to share the excitement we felt as we uncovered this mystery together lol! It’s awesome to uncover a big piece of God of War history, a big win for the community.

@godzillazfriction

2 ай бұрын

before this theory occurred, i was thinking about the next GoW games' event's and was primarily focusing on older Kratos going back to Greece, and face some roman anomaly or just resurrected Greeks which the Kratos from GoW III would enact his vengeance just like the current Kratos, and so the topic of 2 marked warriors fighting each other surprised me in this video because i was thinking about a concept that is similar to this with the whole 2 marked warriors battling out and not knowing one another, but difference is that the current Kratos would know who he'd be going against...

@ramkhapandi

2 ай бұрын

Agree i thank you both of you🫂for this discovery

@JV-km9xk

2 ай бұрын

video ideas: best qtes in the series best movement sections in the series i.e; pegasus section, crossing the lowlands, sliding segments in gow ascension, icarus flight, etc.

The fact that Deimos was voiced by Elijah Wood, a high profile actor, in GoW3 only for him to do one voice line and not coming back to GoS (probably because he's too expensive) is also pretty sus

@KaptainKuba

2 ай бұрын

Didn't even think about that. Good point

SPEECHLESS!! It's just the explanation I wanted for Deimos' "unreal" design in GOS (a muscular guy who spent many years enslaved didn't seem like the most appropriate thing to portray). Once again you took it out of park, Kuba; and I also watched the Midgard video, you are both geniuses at figuring this out and making complete sense of it. This video needs to go viral!!

@KaptainKuba

2 ай бұрын

Thank you! I agree this is one of the coolest discoveries in for the community

Bro. This was awesome. Thanks you two. This was hella interesting.

@aa3988

2 ай бұрын

Gotta see what Bigvee thinks abt this theory

@mournvile3411

2 ай бұрын

I would've loved god of war 3 as much as you do too if that was the story my most favorite game is god of war ghost of Sparta but if they made deimos appearance in 3 that would've been awesome and for ghost of Sparta they could've made it something completely different like the game about deimos which in the end gets him enchained

@saulgoodmansfingerr8527

2 ай бұрын

Give us our OHKO

@theretardkratos

2 ай бұрын

shut up

man couldve never imagined after soo many years there was still a theory like this to be found

@KaptainKuba

2 ай бұрын

The thing I find amazing is that it was under our noses the entire time

This Undoubtedly feels like a Massive Discovery and is making me miss something I never knew I was missing

15:56 😮finally so many days later got to hear this line🔥👍🏻

WOW this was the story we deserved. What we got is still amazing and that says alot but this would have been epic!

@KaptainKuba

2 ай бұрын

right?! having Deimos in it and the Prophecy of the Marked warrior in GOW 3 makes so much

Athena might've just remained dead at the end of GoW 2 instead of coming back. If the entire Flame/Pandora/Hope plot line didn't exist but the story was about Deimos she wouldn't have any reason to be there. In fact her death would've had more emotional impact that way. Her return as an entirely different character and surprise twist villain was always a bit awkward.

10:30 oh my god, that makes so much sense now, I was just vibing to that track before already, but now that track has a completely different meaning

@KaptainKuba

2 ай бұрын

Right?!!!!

Oh!, so thats why in GOW3 theme song they included both kratos and demos's name KRAtoss, DEemosss

@james-nf5ck

Ай бұрын

its not deimos its thrimos which means rage

Great video. This also explains why in the Rage of Sparta theme, it repeats 'Kratos, Deimos' over and over. That never made any sense to me until now 🤔

Haven’t had an eye opening theory video like this one in a long time. You guys killed it🔥

Top tier work from you both - enjoyed both parts!

@KaptainKuba

2 ай бұрын

Thank you! Just a few minutes ago I was watching one of your videos about Blasphemous, big fan of your work ♥️

Yeah, i like this version more I guess, and Flame of Olympus wouldn't even exist there, because it's such an obvious MacGuffin, i hate how we spend the whole game working around this Flame and it doesn't even matter in the end. Well, anyway, they did what they could considering the director changing and all that. Still made one hell of a series with great and memorable story line. Upd. Also, because the Flame wouldn't exist in original version, i think the concept of Power of Hope wouldn't exist either. I think Stig come up with this concept and liked it very much, liked the ending it could bring with Kratos releasing Hope to the world, that exactly because of that the original idea got replaced.

@MariusBoss11458

2 ай бұрын

I dunno... I like the Power of Hope thing. Which leads into God of War Valhalla. And him becoming the God of Hope.

@thelegandgamer2830

2 ай бұрын

​@MariusBoss11458 It came out of nowhere the games before gow3 didn't hint it at all that why in my opinion the power of hope is the most bs thing to put in gow3 out of nowhere just to redeem Kratos at the end by releasing it to the world

@CoolSaver

2 ай бұрын

@@MariusBoss11458 this i like too, don't get me wrong, it's the Flame and all the hustle around it that bothers me. It's like the bad version of Dragon Scroll from Kung Fu Panda. There it had meaning, even if it's empty, it helps the main character realise something important and get a self-confidence. Here it do nothing, except giving us something to play around the whole game, all the important things for the story Kratos got from Pandora, which also needed a way to sacrifice herself somehow, and yet again, very convenient and useless Flame comes into play. It's so out of nowhere and just to push the plot, that even Kratos states smth like: "Flame of Olympus? Never heard of it".

@_Nonnez_

2 ай бұрын

​@@CoolSaverI 100% agree with you but I still like the idea of the Power of Hope. I just hated how it related to the Flame of Olympus because narratively it was rushed and made no sense. The hope theme should have been it's own separate thing and be slowly hinted from the last games. However at least we got Pandora from this messy story and she was honestly one of my favorite parts of GOW 3.

10:33 yeah exactly i still thought that why song name was this when there is fight between father & son. Now it's perfectly fit why it name was this😳🔥👍🏻thanks

this was really amazing to watch well done Kaptain

Absolutely LOVED the content, keep it up guys! 🙌

This concept story are actully much cooler then what we get now, but i don't know why they decided to change the story, i guess there's some problem about this story but c'mon this story just simply to cool to the point that it make's me a little bit upset

@CoolSaver

2 ай бұрын

I think it's because the person who got to direct the game decided to do something cooler in his opinion. And what is the central theme of GoW3? The Power of Hope. I gotta admit, it's a pretty cool concept, it's the strongest part of GoW3's story. I think because Stig come up with this idea they changed the story.

This is a awesome theory. You and Midgard did a amazing job making this discovery

If there is a remake to God of War 3 they should make it 40 hours long and throw in the Demos plot as well, because whats one more subplot in the like 5 we already got in 3. I'm being serious it could maybe be done if they switch around the opening boss fight. The one thing that bothered me about 3 is that Hades is the first major boss after Kratos loses his powers again. Hades is the ELDEST of the big three. The way it could work is that the gods give the titans hell at the start forcing Gaia that the need another warrior to distract the other gods while Kratos goes for Zeus. So Kratos gets off and heads to the underworld meeting Hades who went to stop him; and sees the warrior chained up and starts screaming in rage as soon as Kratos enters the room. and the screams intensify through each phase of the opening boss fight. Once Hades is dead the warrior is filled with so much rage that he frees himself and the player is thrown imminently into a second boss fight with no healing. Its a heads they win tails you lose boss fight and both the warrior and Kratos end up falling into the river Styx losing his powers then meets ghost Athena. The rest of the game plays pretty normally except Poseidon is now the mid game boss,(plus it works as a theme; underworld, ocean and then sky) Pandora subplot can stay(maybe cut the labyrinth down a tad), only the warrior is also now tearing through Olympus in rage as well popping up every so often. Instead of Zeus taunting Kratos causing him to let go of Pandora, the warrior attacks Kratos making him let go, Kratos kills the warrior, horrified that its Demos; with absolutely nothing left but rage he goes to were Zeus is waiting for him. Fight goes the same, except Gaia never betrayed Kratos but stabbing her through the heart to kill Zeus just adds to the looooong list of the worst things he has done. In 2 he unintentionally kills an ally but in 3, means to an end.

Another great vid Kuba thanks

This is extremely incredible! The apparent importance of Deimos to the franchise before the release of GoS would never have crossed my mind, and would give way to the explanation of his discarded designs as well as his not-so-notorious appearance in the final version of GoW 3, leaving some vestiges of what could have been, a great contribution, they are geniuses!

A really good theory, and its MEMBERS ONLY? todays a good day, great job to both you and middy, loved it

@KaptainKuba

2 ай бұрын

glad you liked it man! it was def one of the most fun collabs I've done

This is why I like your channel You Show Information About The Things That We Did Not Know Thanks!

@KaptainKuba

2 ай бұрын

Im gald you enjoyed it

Duuuude. I asked myself that question. It was odd that brothers of blood played in that part. Now it makes sense. Great work!

Deimos felt like such missed potential. I mean kratos's iconic tattoo was based on him. But i took his brief appearance as consistent with the isolation and death in the very few that he cared about. All still physically attached on his body as a reminder.

Bro...this may be the best GoW theory I've ever seen, each part is very well placed to fit with each other, I honestly don't know if I prefer the original GoW 3 or the GoW 3 that your theory presents....

@KaptainKuba

2 ай бұрын

Thank you! I think I would have liked the og more but I can't say for sure. Maybe it was cut for story reasons

If you search us Deimos from Greek Myth it says "He is the personification of fear. He is the son of Ares and Aphrodite, and the brother of Phobos." In GOW3 Hephaestus asks Kratos if Aphrodite has conquered "another" god of war. Also, Zeus was consumed by the evil "Fear".

I am pretty sure that they are planning remakes and will use these bits as they wanted thats why they are not revealing information that would be useless to them unless they want to recreate their original ideas

@KaptainKuba

2 ай бұрын

It would be interesting if they did

@UzairAli-iy5jh

2 ай бұрын

@@KaptainKuba thanks

I think Zeus wouldve actually been the one to kill Deimos making Kratos even angrier at him than he already was

Love videos like this

They better use this story concept in the future

😮👍🏻wow bro i was requesting you for this topic and you made it thank you so much kap👍🏻

@KaptainKuba

2 ай бұрын

Ive been sitting on this for such a long time lol finally had a theory to go with it

@ramkhapandi

2 ай бұрын

@@KaptainKuba yeah and it was awesome bro i hope they will go for this story in god of war 3 remake as you also said in tweeter that they are taking some liberty from story i hope they bring this story can't wait to fight with demos 1v1 in gow 3 combat system🔥🥹

Only one problem with that is I don’t know how the final fight would’ve happened, in the current story Zeus pushed kratos into killing pandora else he would’ve saved her, this is why he got even more motivated to kill Zeus. But in that story if Deimos would’ve been killed when they had been fighting multiple times already, when he finally died kratos would’ve felt defeated and realised that there was no point in vengeance as it has only been destroying him and his people. So he wouldn’t have fought Zeus and let Zeus kill him

nice one Kap & Mid🔥

14:25 I mean, at least Deimos appears in God Of War: Ghost Of Sparta, so that got answered, eventually.

Good vid, I enjoyed it ❤

@KaptainKuba

2 ай бұрын

Appreciate it

This was a really cool video I actually really do miss the character Deimos

I miss these videos man, and the background music

As a big fan of Deimos, I really appreciate you making this video!!! You did an excellent job with finding and explaining the evidence!!! Also I love the idea you made for the possible story Deimos could have in GOW 3!!! He has so much potential and I'm glad you're showing it!!!

@KaptainKuba

2 ай бұрын

Thank you for the kind words, I'm really glad you enjoyed the video ♥️

@_Nonnez_

2 ай бұрын

@@KaptainKuba You're welcome!!! 😊💖💖💖

"Your Pawn Has Failed you Gaia. Perhaps you should have chosen the Other one!" Zeus 2010

If and when they do a remaster, I don't mind having this story line. Change is good!

video ideas: best qtes in the series best movement sections in the series i.e; pegasus section, crossing the lowlands, sliding segments in gow ascension, icarus flight, etc.

We can only pray to the gods if there is a remake that they use all the stuff they left out, they could make the best remake/reboot of the triology ever

crazy how a great game could have had its weak point improved and become something even more legendary.

Naaa this is crazy that this long later we are finally finding this out, y’all cooked with this video fr

@KaptainKuba

2 ай бұрын

Told you lol

the theme for god of war 3 would've made much sense since the theme mentioned Kratos and Deimos.

I would love a classic GoW spin off series based on Deimos. A what-if timeline.

By the way, i also was thinking at least a few times why this composition was called "The Brothers of Blood". Thought it's just an obscure pointing to Kratos being of Zeus' blood. Well now it makes a lot of sense, thank you :D

Hey Kuba fan of yours from Greece !! Let me add something about Brothers of Blood OST. There is nothing in the lyrics that suggest a fight with Zeus.

Let them remake the game with this story it would be even more fire

This was a pretty comprehensive video... Also we missed out on Froddo (Elijah Wood) being a big part of GoW 3

BROOOOOOOO this is mind blowing, i am in shock....

literally mother 3 ending its an interesting original concept but i like what we got more, which is a more uniquely mean spirited and cold story

Judging by the God of War 3 artwork, Deimos appears to have made a deal with Hades by becoming his champion (similar to his champions in God of War Ascension). Question: When Hades, during the battle on Olympus, absorbs the soul of the Titan Oceanus, does he also gain his power (such as his sea of darkness both in the Underworld and on earth)?

GoW3 story-problem was having to much unnecessary stuff, like the flame, the box, Pandora and Athena. So removing all that and having Deimos instead sounds better. Less is more. BUT your theory about how the story would play out doesn't really add up either. It's not a plot hole that Hades is sent to the underworld to stop Kratos for good, Kratos is the main problem. The rest can manage the titans. (Which they do fine, until Kratos shows up and helps Perses and kills Helios for example.) And Kratos needing the Soul is also not a plot hole either, it's basically 1 door and 1 key that Kratos has to use. In GoW1 Zeus had the power to open another door for him, and in GoW2 Gaia helps him before he was taken down to the underworld. BUT BACK TO DEIMO: Why would Kratos save the marked warrior if he didn't know who he was? Was he told the prophecy and hoped the marked warrior would help him? He was mainly after Zeus, so releasing him would just create yet another problem for him as now he has to race another who also wants to kill Zeus. And Kratos learning who he was after killing him would not work as an "emotional twist", if we just got a flashback AFTER we kill him. You didn't like the 3rd act in Ghost of Sparta, but your theory in GoW3 ends up being a worse version of it. It would not mirror GoW1 because the flashbacks in that game are basically Kratos's PTSD aka Nightmares triggering during the events of the game. At that point in GoW3 he doesn't suffer from them the same way because he's consumed by hatred and vengeance. So even if we got flashbacks with Deimos BEFORE the reveal, it wouldn't really make sense, and it would be obvious who the marked warrior was. And Zeus' line about "Choosing the other one" makes LESS sense now if Kratos JUST KILLED the "other one" in this story. He's not rubbing it into Gaia, when HER marked warrior is the one still standing. His line already makes sense as he is cocky as fuck and thinks nothing of Kratos, so he's remarking how Gaia should have focused on- and saved Deimos at one point before his death, instead of Kratos at the beginning of GoW2.

Didn’t everyone think that brothers of blood ost was meant for the battle with Hercules before? It makes more sense now

I really hope that if Santa Monica Studios remake the original God of War trilogy, they bring back the Deimos plotline in GOW 3 and other abandoned content!!! SMS can also fix the plot holes/story inconsistencies and add more lore!!!

Just thought of a crazy theory, as soon as I saw Deimos! What if Deimos soul surivived after all this time wandering the underworld & found the blades of hades! And ruled over the underworld! Man Deimos is such a slept on character

"Wil Wheaton................ I'll take my revenge." - Sheldon

In God of War Ragnarök, have you noticed that Kratos obtained Freyr's flying boat but he never actually uses it? I truly believe that Kratos will uses it to travel to the next pantheon.

@martinc8965

2 ай бұрын

He uses it to reach the Crater to rescue Birgir, which canonically did happen, since it was Birgir who gave him the firework that Kratos ends up using at Ragnarok to regroup and change plans.

I dont even need a continuation of the norse games just give me this

@ryanmoore6259

8 күн бұрын

The norse games are great.

So basically they teased Kratos Vs Deimos in GOW 2, Planned to be in GOW 3 but due to the actor price they dropped it and rushed the plotline?

@badd7407

2 ай бұрын

Well i brutally simplified.

That demonic deimos design is🔥

I believe the story Would probably be better With Deimos in it for longer then a few minutes

Man damn. As much as i love gow3 i feel like we was robbed of an even better story

This story would have been 100 times better

Welp that would explain why the God of War 3 story never sat well with me and is one big Mess. Even the Battle with the Titans Vs the God's being over within the first act seemed like a Giant cop out.

@martinc8965

2 ай бұрын

Although I also didn't like that, we can't say that it was disappointing because since gow 2 in the cinematics the titans (especially Gaia) had been telling us that the gods in the titanomachy were already superior to them, it was logical to expect that future versions of Those of us who fought in gow 3 easily beat tabs, but those of us who were disappointed were a bit... stupid. Or well, quite stupid.

Calling it now. They could make a remastered not remake of GOW3 but this time is the full story. The cut content feels like a spell done by a powerful deity even fooling the game experience lol

@Dachin55555

2 ай бұрын

That’s never gonna happen and you know it

@martinc8965

2 ай бұрын

They will not do it because the content cut is not something that only gow 3 experienced, it is something typical of the saga, I think the ones that had this the most were chains of Olympus, gow 2, gow 3 and gow 4.

WOW this is amazing, it makes so much sense to me for some reason, it would of been better if that would of been happened to be honest in my opinion.

At 13:16 I thought Zeus was referring to himself. As in the titans should have never fought against the Olympians.

If they ever remake gow 3 I want them to add Deimos in it

Best video yet

@KaptainKuba

2 ай бұрын

Im glad it delivered lol

@RMX-ART

2 ай бұрын

@@KaptainKuba yess always does

That's a good story 🎉

Kaptain i think the mark warrior prophecy indicate scar on kratos right eye not his tattoo bcz when the deimos was kidnapped ares leave the scar when he try to save so called mark warrior (deimos)

Maybe if they remastered the old god of war games they may just remake them to their original story line or add more things then the original god of war 3 did like imagine Orion trying to hunt Kratos and then you fight against Deimos and then in the fear world against Zeus you fight Phobos

I hope in the remastered Version of the game They add the Road to Sparta

So now Kratos running slowly from a rolling thing is the new Subway Surfers gameplay to put in the background?

Damn you guys are awesome

Somehow I remembered somewhere Kratos has suit and chef skins.

Kratos killing his brother before getting the mask out, then killing his father after he says "kratos my son, release me"

Wow you did it the gods interfeen 🎉❤

to shift gear to something unrelated isn't it sad(?) that old games when having cut contents still leave an awesome game. Where as now, a rush and cut game usually end in catastrophe

After all, GoW 3 remains a classic, but I won't lie, the discarded story, in addition to making a lot of sense, could also have been interesting... But that's okay, we still had Ghost of Sparta which is one of my favorite chapters and which I hope they remake It. However, I would love to see Cory close what he starts as director at least once 😂 cliffhanger in GoS, Gow2, GoW 2018... but he never closes though 😩😂

hey with this Santa Monica could twist the remake (if there is one on the way), into something else entirely if they want to

I love MidChronicler

Hey Kap, I remember there was something about the three wise men in GOW 3, did Cory write that?

@KaptainKuba

2 ай бұрын

I beleive that was Jaffe's ending

I like how god of war 3 turned out stif did a good job

I have a theory, ATREUS WATCHED THE RIFT WITH THRUD, before the fight between Kratos and Thor in Ragnarok Kratos tells Atreus to take the mask and thrud and go. they are not there in the whole fight. After the death of Thor they suddenly appear and no explanation of where they was. After ragnarok Atreus knows where to look for giants which is mysterious .I think he saw in the rift with the help of the mask

Damn you weren’t lying when u said it would change my view of gow 3 completely. What if they implement this story in the remake🤯 lmao but as usual, good vid kuba 🔥

@KaptainKuba

2 ай бұрын

Told you! But I don't think they would because they would have to rewrite the entire Greek saga

Unrelated question: If we had a trilogy remake (with the graphics we saw in Valhalla) Kratos would have the voice of Cristopher Judge, or T.C Carson?

If i would choose only one game in the serie to have current gen graphics it would be ghost of sparta

Kuba & mid 🤘🍻

crazy though the one difference plot point could twist the entirety of gow3, Pandora wouldn't exist, even the higher plane of existence might not even a thought.

😍😍😍🎉🎉🎉Lets goooo

mine is chains of Olympus, ghost of sparta is second for me

dang it

This is pure speculation and theories of a Greek saga that has already ended, it is of no use if it had been, it also has several errors such as the Brothers of Blood soundtrack, this already existed before gow3, it appears in gow 2 in the fights with Perseus and Zeus, I also believe that Deimos magically appeared in Gow3 without ever being mentioned in the main stories of Gow1 and Gow2 it would have been forced

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