The purpose of this video is to compare the factory available wheel options at the time of ordering a Tesla Model Y. Tesla has never published the range delta between the factory wheel options (unlike the Model S and X). Most owners will use the wheels that they paid for at the time of purchase. Sure, there are 3rd party wheel and tire combinations that will produce different results (e.g. due to weight, rolling resistance, etc.). However a 3rd party wheel or tire comparison is out of scope for this video. Perhaps I will do this in a follow up video if there is enough demand. Cheers.

Sure glad I stuck with the 19s. Thanks for comparing and letting us know the results dude. Very informative. 👍

@ElectricCanuck

2 жыл бұрын

I’ll be happy to put on my 19s for winter for sure. 😎

@jeffyeah4256

2 жыл бұрын

@@ElectricCanuck I ordered a y long range, 19 inch..Do you think 19 inch looks too awkward and small on the Y or looks fine? And the 19 inch factory Tesla rims look cheesy..Where would u buy black color 19 inch rims at that look good like the 20 inch?

Is the range difference mainly due to the size/weight or the shape/cap on the geminis? How efficient is the design of the inductions in wind resistance compared to the capped geminis? I've seen induction replicas in 19" size available so I'm wondering how those might compare in range

Besides the range, is ride quality any different? And what about the tires' wear and tear? Do you need to replace the 20-inch more often?

Great video because it is Very detailed yet concise . And I know this may sound pedantic, however, I wish you showed what they looked like on the vehicle. I love in london and wanted to get the model Y long range AWD, however not sure whether to upgrade to 20nch wheels as it gets pretty cold here in uk

Great video, thanks! what difference is there in comfort with 19-inch and 20-inch wheels? Is the 20-inch too stiff and uncomfortable on bumpy roads?

@ElectricCanuck

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you, Angelo!! I honestly struggle to tell the difference in comfort between the two. If I were a blindfolded passenger I wouldn’t be able to tell them apart. Cheers.

@shawn1900

Жыл бұрын

@@ElectricCanuck I am so glad you answered this question; comfort is more what I am looking for. There is an extra 3 month wait time for the 19"

Were driver weights the same?

I wonder what the difference would be with the Uber Turbines 21".

Also curious if tires were the same. We're in the process of testing 18 vs 19 on our MY, and we're noticing identical range, but we are using the same tires on both sets of wheels.

@ElectricCanuck

2 жыл бұрын

In Canada the 20" are Goodyear Eagle F1 rubber and the 19" are Continental ProContact rubber. The aim for my video was to take a look at range with the stock wheel/tire options.

@DailyMotor

2 жыл бұрын

@@ElectricCanuck That's a great perspective as well, comparing what people can order and equip directly from Tesla. Nice! If you decided to add another data point and compare with the same rubber, we've had good relationships with Continental and Bridgestone with getting sponsored tires so you could do an apples-to-apples test as well. Just a thought. Great video!

@ElectricCanuck

2 жыл бұрын

@@DailyMotor many thanks! I might take you up on that sometime. 👍 Let me know when your 18” test is done. I’d love to watch it. 😀

Could you please tell what's the name of App which you record the journey? Thanks in advance

@ElectricCanuck

2 жыл бұрын

Tezlab. Cheers.

Good stuff, just ordered my Model 3, should see it in April!

@ElectricCanuck

2 жыл бұрын

Congrats!! 👍Welcome to the Tesla family.

Hey, awesome vid. Quick question, I am in the process of getting 19" winter tires and rims. Does is it matter which 19" rims I buy to mount the winter tires on? There are Tesla OEM aftermarket alloy wheels (copies) that I can buy at $250/each or buy any other 19" rims from other manufacturers that look far better and cost slightly more with the same bolt pattern? I have a 2023 Y LR with the 19" Gemini wheels with the hubcaps. I will not be able to use the hubcaps on the other manufacturer rims which I know will knock off some range but it's a small price to pay for having sexy wheels. Thanks.

@davidnewkirk2438

Жыл бұрын

Hey what did you end up choosing? Any suggestions would be great, thanks

@SuperStarReview

Жыл бұрын

@davidnewkirk2438 hey bro I just saw this. I spoke to Tesla and if you do not buy their wheels, they can possibly deny you for warranty work for related/unrelated issues. Also, they advised that aftermarket rims are not recommended. This was enough for me to not change the rims. I ended up buying just the winter tires from Nokians and installed them on to the original Tesla rims.

@davidnewkirk2438

Жыл бұрын

@@SuperStarReview interesting! Good to know. Thanks for the reply

I just ordered a PMY and will dump the 21” for some 19s. Looking at a package from TSportLine unless I can find someone who wants to work a trade. Am hoping I can revived most of the 23 mile delta between a P and LR Y and gain the ability to rotate my tires. Thanks for verifying the delta many folks talk about but new we have facts. Cheers.

Very useful vidéo.Considering the price of Wheels and the economy on road i have made my choice. Thank you very much from France for this very accurate test . 🇨🇦❤️🇫🇷❤️🍾👍

@ElectricCanuck

2 жыл бұрын

Je suis content que cela ait été utile. 😀

Omg that’s crazy! Over 30 Km range difference (my commute isn’t too far off). I liked the look of the 20” Induction wheels, but may powder coat the 19’s & save.

@ElectricCanuck

2 жыл бұрын

I'm thinking about selling my Inductions and going back to 19". It makes a big difference as you say. Cheers.

Thank the comparison video. 19” is my choice! 👍🏻

@ElectricCanuck

2 жыл бұрын

You're welcome! Always glad to help.

Are the tire widths the same on both tires? Is the difference just the rotational mass of the bigger wheel taking more range ??

@ElectricCanuck

2 жыл бұрын

Yes, they are both 255 width.

@ElectricCanuck

2 жыл бұрын

By the way, since I made the video, Tesla is now showing the range difference based on which wheel/tire package you choose. It closely matches my findings. Cheers.

Were the aero covers on the 19’s? If so, I’m wondering how much effect they would have.

@ElectricCanuck

2 жыл бұрын

My wife's Model Y has the unaltered factory 19" Gemini wheels on this video. The wheel covers are indeed on. 👍😎

@andersmad

2 жыл бұрын

"tesla bjørn" measured a loss of 3% with the plastic off

Torontonian here. Ordered my Y in October, might not get it till June godfuckkingdamnit

Sería interesante saber está prueba que consumos da un model Y largo alcance con llantas Géminis a comparar con un model Y performance.

@ElectricCanuck

2 жыл бұрын

¡Estoy de acuerdo! Ojalá tuviera un model y performance para probar.

Could the difference in distance driven be due to the difference in the circumference of the tires (19" vs 20"). The 19" wheels would turn more often during a given route, simply because of the smaller circumference. Just wondering... Thanks!

@ElectricCanuck

2 жыл бұрын

Possibly! I am definitely not an engineer or a math whiz, but hopefully someone who is an engineer can chime in. I would love to know...

@user-ro1is1us7z

4 ай бұрын

I did the math, circumference of both ( 19” & 20” ) are exactly the same 28.035” 19” rim comes with larger side wall tire which exactly compensates for 20”rim with shorter side wall tire ( low profile ).

Excellent video, Paul! Do you have any subjective ride quality difference opinions?

@ElectricCanuck

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you Mitchell!! I do not notice any difference between the ride quality between my wife's Model Y and mine. Then again I have buns of steel. Haha.

@mitchellbarnow1709

2 жыл бұрын

@@ElectricCanuck How about your wife's opinion?

@ElectricCanuck

2 жыл бұрын

Lol, she’d definitely be more sensitive to it, and she reports that she feels no difference. 👍

@mitchellbarnow1709

2 жыл бұрын

@@ElectricCanuck I am very glad to hear that, Paul! Might be the mega casts and the battery pack that make the Model Y super solid? Have you ever considered coil over suspension for the 3 or the Y?

@ElectricCanuck

2 жыл бұрын

@Michell I’ll have to Google that!! So, no haven’t considered it.

Did you correct distance for speedo error? i.e. GPS mileage.

@ElectricCanuck

2 жыл бұрын

No, but that would have been a good idea!

@bernhardleopold6702

2 жыл бұрын

Probably the difference in distance recorded is from his deviation. I would rather trust the kWh consumed vs. the rated consumptions then. This would result in 9.6/9.1=1.055, so only 5.5 % more range for the 19". Based on 525 km rated range for the 19" the 20" would get 497 km, 28 km less.

are you sure that increasing [diameter] causes range drop? are you sure that`s not just the [wheel cover] providing better aero drag？Also what about tire pressure? it doesn`t make sense to me. would you swap their wheel to do it again to make sure it`s not the car`s issue?

@ElectricCanuck

2 жыл бұрын

I am 100% certain. See this article and video from Engineering Explained. www.cnet.com/roadshow/news/want-more-range-from-your-ev-get-smaller-wheels/

@jeffma7202

2 жыл бұрын

@@ElectricCanuck you are mixing all sorts of factors in your experiment thus you can't use "rotational momentum" to explain. There are high quality 20in forge wheel lighter than stock 19 inch wheel. since aero is different, regular 19inch wheels may cost much more fuel . Remember wheel diameter only plays a role when you are accelerating, so for highway driving its negligible. while Aero is active at all time.

@ElectricCanuck

2 жыл бұрын

@@jeffma7202 Hi, Jeff, the sole purpose of the video was to use the factory available wheel options to compare. Most owners will use the wheels they pay for at the time of purchase. Sure, there are 3rd party wheels and tire combinations that will affect the results, but that is out of the scope of this video. Again, the aim was solely to compare the factory options since Tesla did not publish any details about the range impact for the factory choices. I hope that this clarifies. Cheers.

you got about what Tesla (or really the EPA) predicts for the difference in range between the two tires. So- no real surprise. I'd think that for most people, the only time range is an issue is during a long trip, usually highway speeds of 75-80mph. Given that air resistance is the primary driver of drag, I'd expect that the high speed difference is a bit less than mixed driving distance. ???

tezlab calculated efficiency based on km driven and clearly tezlab was off by 1.2km which is about 2% so you can not use the efficiency calculation which tezlab gave you to compare. Also, it would be important to have both vehicles set to same AC temp and both use use auto pilot to eliminate any variation. Just some thoughts...Thanks for the comparison

@Those_Weirdos

7 ай бұрын

Using autopilot introduces tons of variables. Like “I’m going to randomly slow down 50% for no goddamned reason”.

Any difference for you regarding comfort?

@ElectricCanuck

2 жыл бұрын

I find the 19” offers a more comfortable ride. Cheers.

@ElectricCanuck

2 жыл бұрын

But it’s not a huge difference.

Wnat tyre pressures..?? That matters just as much

277 miles on a full charge, is this real world drive to low SOC and then calculate? What is the projected range displayed by the vehicle when charging to 100%? Thanks!

@ElectricCanuck

2 жыл бұрын

Hi, Steven, if I charge from low SOC to 100% (which I do not do very often, I usually just charge to 90%) the projected range is 486 kms (301 miles). Keep in mind that the "projected range" takes into account your efficiency history. After 6 months and 7,000 kms (4,349 miles), Tezlab app shows my battery's maximum range as 514 kms (319 miles). This implies a 2.1% battery degradation, which seems about right to me. No idea how Tezlab app calculates this.

@StevenSato

2 жыл бұрын

@@ElectricCanuck thank you! In the video you mentioned 277 but not the SOC you saw that at. TBH I am seeing 302 projected incar on 100% charge. Thanks again.

Same tires on both cars? In Europe the 20'' are delivered with Michelin Pilot Sport EV, while 19" are delivered with Hankook tires. Michelin claims the pilot sport EV extends the range by up to 60km (37 miles). Even bigger difference between 19" and 20" with the same tires?

@greenridge7945

2 жыл бұрын

Michelin were comparing the PS EV with the PS 4S I think. Same sizes. The PS EV is rated B and the Hankook is rated A in Europe.

@ElectricCanuck

2 жыл бұрын

In Canada the 20" are Goodyear Eagle F1 rubber and the 19" are Continental ProContact rubber.

What about the different car colors! That surely affected the results! (There is a competition for stupidest comment, correct?)

@ElectricCanuck

2 жыл бұрын

Hehe! Always. 😁

its feb 6, 2022. 19" rims are backordered till dec 2022, and 20" rims till august 2022 on tesla's site right now. That's crazy. Guess 20's will have to be my choice

@ElectricCanuck

2 жыл бұрын

Oh wow, this supply shortage thing is wearing thin. There are some good aftermarket options for the 19s, but not sure if there is the same supply issue. 🤔

silly question but how much bigger does the car look with 20 inches compared to 19, is it noticeable at all?

@ElectricCanuck

2 жыл бұрын

It’s not really noticeable at all, at least to my eyes. Cheers.

@DunguBook

2 жыл бұрын

@@ElectricCanuck thank you

Tire pressure, HVAC use, battery temperature, tire temperature, tire wear? All unknowns that keep this from being a definitive test.

@ElectricCanuck

2 жыл бұрын

Hi, Brandon, we both had HVAC temp set to 20.5⁰C. Both cars are new with 6,000 kms and 7,000 kms mileage. Tire wear is not a factor. I checked the tire pressure, both average of 40 PSI across all 4 corners. Both cars were parked outside in 16⁰C ambient temperature for hours before the test. This is a definitive test 100%. Cheers.

@demodave99

2 жыл бұрын

@@ElectricCanuck I'd be curious to see what would happen if you swapped the wheels from the two cars and replicated the test. I assume the range will vary slightly from each car in real world testing, even if they are the same model/year.

I might of missed it but why would anyone get the 20" wheels then? what's the trade off?

@ElectricCanuck

2 жыл бұрын

Hi, DJ08, there is argument to be made for wider tires e.g. more surface area to grip the road, but the larger diameter is mostly about style preference. At least that is my understanding. Cheers.

@monicaballes9873

Жыл бұрын

Looks!

@Rex-bk4gh

Жыл бұрын

I have the white on white (interior) Model Y. It's a $50K car and didn't want it to look pedestrian..lol. The black rims makes it look nicer on the white, but that's just me. I think it's a good middle ground between 19" Gemini and 21" Uber turbines of the Performance. Either way it's your car for your use so whatever makes you happy.

Do we Northern people need winter tires? if so what works? Maybe a show on it?

@ElectricCanuck

2 жыл бұрын

Depends if you get a lot of snow, but I usually recommend winter tires. For the Model Y, I went with the Continental Contact 7s. I will do a video when we get our first snow around November. In the meantime, if you search "winter" or "cold" on my channel, I have done a lot of winter driving videos with Model 3 and Model Y. Cheers.

@voric2893

2 жыл бұрын

@@ElectricCanuck Thanks, we get about a foot of snow in Edmonton.. but the city doesn't plow much. lol. I got a Model 3 coming in a week. And I used your referral code. :)

@ElectricCanuck

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you so much, John!! Definitely get winters. You said the magic word... Edmonton. 😋

What about ride quality?

@ElectricCanuck

Жыл бұрын

It’s way better with smaller tires. In my opinion anyway. Larger tires make the ride a little harsher.

7,6 % saving from 20" to 19" or 8,2% more costs from 19" to 20". But you drove really slow. 36min for 53,6km is 89km/h in average... That's really slow. For a german the more important speed is about 120 or 130km/h for long trips and that's where the Gemini Wheels with Covers shine the most. Savings will be even higher there 10-13% more consumption from 19" to 20".

36km additonal range, damn. That is huge, Great test buddy.

@ElectricCanuck

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks @Franklin!!

What about road noise? I test drove a 2021 with induction and it was very loud. I’m wondering if the 19s are noticeably quieter. For me the range difference is negligible. The lose of range isn’t going to change what charging station you go to on a road trip. And for my daily lifestyle every Telsa and trim has more than enough mileage for school, work, and play. Edit - good video, glad I found it. Much better than your typical KZread Tesla video. 👍

@ElectricCanuck

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you so much for your kind comment! Yes, I do find my wife's MY with the 19s a bit quieter. It's not a huge difference, but it's perceptible. Cheers.

@JY-lg6ee

2 жыл бұрын

@@ElectricCanuck and I reduce my MYL 19 inches tires presuree from 42 psi to 38 psi, ( Elon said 10% is fine, and Tesla SC did it for me ) it is lot better , but I lost about 5% of range, which is not a big deal to me, make sure 38 psi is when tires have been sitting over night. This tires works from 25 PSI to 50 PSI depending on the loads you have,. MY is very heavy , so high tires presurss is needed but ride comfort suffer

Hubiera sido mucho mejor si intercambiaba las ruedas entre los carros y volvia ha hacer la misma prueba

What about the wind?

@ElectricCanuck

2 жыл бұрын

We went at the exact same time and I followed about 100 feet behind my wife. The wind would have been identical. 👍

@tallbrownie8109

2 жыл бұрын

@@ElectricCanuck not sure if wind is identical...

@ErikReidt

2 жыл бұрын

@@ElectricCanuck fair enough!

Appreciate for doing your test. However, as both cars completed the same route ( same distance ), the 1.2km difference in ranges covered is showing that the 20" wheels are slightly bigger in diameter than the 19". Therefore I am afraid the results are not accurate.

I think your splitting hairs. I have the 2021 Model 3 performance range is not a issue for under 150 mile ventures imo because I charge at home and superchargers are everywhere even though I have never had to use one.

@ElectricCanuck

2 жыл бұрын

Some Tesla owners or perspective owners are obsessed with range. This. may not be you, but don't assume it isn't important to others.

@orionism42

2 жыл бұрын

@@ElectricCanuck That may be true but I like performance in 0 to 60 mph and 0 to 100 mph that’s what I like I’m not concerned that much with range even though mine will go around 300 miles on a charge I’ve never had to experience running out of electrons

@ElectricCanuck

2 жыл бұрын

I totally understand and I’m the same. I enjoy the performance aspect. 👍 cheers.

It’s close. To be fair. If I use auto pilot on follow distance 1 vs 3 I lose about 6-7% efficiency on average due to slip stream. If you by nature follow a car more or less close then your wife. Or follow a truck and the other follows a car the wh results could change DRAMATICALLY. I followed a truck all the way to work the other day seeing if I could get below 100 - similar distance to your test… and got 98 wh/km over 55km. I average 139wh/km in my RWD California built model 3.

Or , we could have 19 on WHITE model Y during winter and switch to 20 on BLACK model Y during summer 😁

@ElectricCanuck

2 жыл бұрын

Hehe, yes ;-)

I Can deal with the loss of range

More rubber is always better.

@ElectricCanuck

2 жыл бұрын

100%!!

@mitchellbarnow1709

2 жыл бұрын

@@ElectricCanuck I believe that Latex would be best!

I wish they had 18 inch option

@ElectricCanuck

2 жыл бұрын

That would be interesting for sure, especially for winter.

@mitchellbarnow1709

2 жыл бұрын

@@ElectricCanuck Maybe a nice 50 mm sidewall with the 18" wheels?

19 all the way, and cheaper to replace.

@ElectricCanuck

2 жыл бұрын

That's another good advantage for sure!!

Brand ambassador? Tesla pays/hired you?

@ElectricCanuck

2 жыл бұрын

Lol, no. Like anyone doing this, were the unpaid marketing team. 😋

What about the weight difference between you and your wife?

This video is a good start but it would be 10x more credible if he swapped the wheels and showed similar results - it’s basic variable control