Defending PTI, Digital Media and Thought Behind Things - Syed Muzamil Hasan Zaidi -

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Syed Muzamil Hasan Zaidi is a content creator and a podcaster - he hosts the popular podcast 'Thought Behind Things'.
Syed Muzamil Hasan Zaidi comes on The Pakistan Experience for a detailed discussion on Imran Khan, PTI, Digital Media, Podcasting, Mental Health, Cyber Trolling, Elite Privilege and the Aurat March.
Does Syed Muzamil support PTI?
Has he been a part of the PTI digital media wing?
Does Muzamil regret trolling people?
Find out this and more on this week's episode of The Pakistan Experience.
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The podcast is hosted by comedian and writer, Shehzad Ghias Shaikh. Shehzad is a Fulbright scholar with a Masters in Theatre from Brooklyn College. He is also one of the foremost Stand-up comedians in Pakistan and frequently writes for numerous publications.
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Chapters:
0:00 The importance of conversations and perspectives
10:55 Populists - the left, right and centre
22:06 Pakistani politics, policies, and programs
33:54 Defending Khan and PTI
47:10 Muzammil's early work, DMW
1:00:33 Political benefits, biases and the Imran Khan interview
1:19:30 Personal criticisms addressed
1:31:35 Twitter crisis, the dangers of social media, and mental health
1:50:44 Aurat March and online perspectives
1:56:16 QnA, analysing PTI and Khan

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  • @ahsanpervaiz7722
    @ahsanpervaiz772228 күн бұрын

    Who is here after dil ki baat series

  • @abdullahnazir2579

    @abdullahnazir2579

    27 күн бұрын

    🙎😜@ahsanpervaiz7722

  • @masoom_shahzad

    @masoom_shahzad

    27 күн бұрын

    Me 😁

  • @usd00

    @usd00

    27 күн бұрын

    Me 🙋🏻‍♂️

  • @zahrakazmi7073

    @zahrakazmi7073

    27 күн бұрын

    meinnnn

  • @zahirjunejo7490

    @zahirjunejo7490

    26 күн бұрын

    Me

  • @musaraza6554
    @musaraza6554 Жыл бұрын

    41 minutes se zyada nahi dekh ska, the guy who is hosting the podcast manipulates and wrongly phrases the statements whenever he wants and then repeatedly tells Muzamil not to wrongly phrase statements. GREAT!!

  • @knowtounknown8946

    @knowtounknown8946

    27 күн бұрын

    😂 left exactly the r same minutes lol, host is like an idiot. Not sure what He was trying to prove, extreme sarcastic behavior and low intellect. He should treat Muzzamil well

  • @azamali735
    @azamali735 Жыл бұрын

    I'm not a TBT/Muzamil fan, but one thing I would put up here: Muzamil has some serious balls. Knew what he was walking into, and yet went it.

  • @shsfehyr

    @shsfehyr

    Жыл бұрын

    He came off looking better look at the contrast professional look, clean cut and disciplines as opposed to sgs who’s unkempt and undisciplined

  • @liliths_

    @liliths_

    Жыл бұрын

    Ahh the personality worshipping of Pakistanis never disappoints

  • @faeznadeem4145

    @faeznadeem4145

    Жыл бұрын

    Is ko kehte h beela bnda

  • @owais3862

    @owais3862

    Жыл бұрын

    Muz is a cheetah. Sacha bnda ha darna kyun tha.

  • @axzostavicii7765

    @axzostavicii7765

    Жыл бұрын

    @@faeznadeem4145 lol ur a pti fan😭

  • @jalidahmad8485
    @jalidahmad8485 Жыл бұрын

    2 burgers trying to show that they were from middle class while reality is both are from the elite class which isn't wrong but them trying to show that they were from middle class is what makes the convo idiotic.

  • @fatimahassan184

    @fatimahassan184

    Жыл бұрын

    Absolutely!

  • @KishmalaIslam

    @KishmalaIslam

    Жыл бұрын

    Jealous much?

  • @absolutearc2599

    @absolutearc2599

    Жыл бұрын

    They are middle class, its your perception that middle class people are the one hanging out of bus. Thats poor class bro :) Elite class would be sons of politicians, malik riaz etc Your base line of classes is wrong

  • @pakichadgaming

    @pakichadgaming

    Жыл бұрын

    @@KishmalaIslam the meatriding is crazy

  • @terminator9735

    @terminator9735

    Жыл бұрын

    Do you pay their bills? Nahi na! Then chill kro and stop making an issue out of something for which they are not even answerable to anyone

  • @rabailzsyed1535
    @rabailzsyed1535 Жыл бұрын

    This podcast is so raw and authentic. It takes a lot of courage to come forward, own your mistakes and apologize. Kudos to Muzamil!

  • @AliHamza-my2ry
    @AliHamza-my2ry Жыл бұрын

    This wasn't a podcast this was more of an interview even though Shehzad is claiming multiple times he does a podcast not an interview, but in his whole podcast he's trying to attack Muzammil on the things they disagree with. Credit goes to Muzammil for apologizing and not making it look like Shehbaz Gill vs Rana Sana Ullah. That clip shouldn't have been published yet Shehzad not even published he's publishing it in short videos on social platforms to get views.

  • @ShubhamMishra-bu1eq

    @ShubhamMishra-bu1eq

    Жыл бұрын

    Shehzad don't give softball to anyone neither allow podcast to go off track

  • @abccba9483
    @abccba9483 Жыл бұрын

    Wow Muzammil is a lion for showing up and owning up. Hats off 👏👏

  • @thebcde
    @thebcde Жыл бұрын

    Why are people praising this podcast? This was more of a debate. Host was not even letting guest complete his point. Host acted like he had personal grudges against the guest. Tameez honi chahye if you have invited someone as a guest

  • @eishaqasim9740
    @eishaqasim9740 Жыл бұрын

    Line of questioning is so feisty and well researched. The confrontation part was definitely epic. This also makes me realize how articulate and vigilant one has to be at all times being an activist, social media personality or journalist. It is nothing like having a convo in our 'elite drawing rooms'.

  • @dinozaurpickupline4221

    @dinozaurpickupline4221

    9 ай бұрын

    it was not to bring personal issues

  • @malissariaz3529
    @malissariaz3529 Жыл бұрын

    Muzammil's podcasts have always been very constructive and productive.

  • @sajidrees
    @sajidrees3 ай бұрын

    Muzammil is The Man Articulate detailed answers tackled by the usual whataboutery of Ghias

  • @Soundon2022
    @Soundon2022 Жыл бұрын

    Well spoken Muzamil. Shehzad on the other hand only tried to label Muzamil as a PTI supporter for 2 hours.

  • @syedmustjabhaiderbukhari2728
    @syedmustjabhaiderbukhari2728 Жыл бұрын

    Very happy to see such an amazingly healthy discussion. This is what we need to understand that we are all humans. We learn, unlearn! We do mistakes. But the most important thing is that we should always accept our right or wrong doings.

  • @mazfars

    @mazfars

    Жыл бұрын

    And such podcast show others that we can have different opinions that can be voiced in a mature and healthy manner.

  • @bashaarh4224
    @bashaarh4224 Жыл бұрын

    An absolute treat of a podcast. Credit to Muzammil for owning up and apologising while setting the record straight. Hats off to Shehzad. As inspiring as always. Can't wait for the second part.

  • @sidaz22

    @sidaz22

    Жыл бұрын

    There is a second part?

  • @xk3168

    @xk3168

    Жыл бұрын

    An absolute cringe of a podcast. No manners shown by shahzad bhai. Lg rha hai bol news ya republic tv chl rha hai

  • @xk3168

    @xk3168

    Жыл бұрын

    Like he was telling about economic policies .. and shehzad sir interrupted him hafiz sheikh, asad umar then tareen etc...

  • @zaidsaleem1723

    @zaidsaleem1723

    Жыл бұрын

    Such a petty host. It's literally like muhalay ki phupo. "Tuny mere baray main yeh kaha woh kaha" What a stupid person.

  • @ayseltazir7960

    @ayseltazir7960

    Жыл бұрын

    An immature take … the host of the podcast should never bring a guest to speak with the hidden agenda of settling personal scores.. this is what it seemed like grow up this isn’t playground “ u said this now apologize” Ever heard of freedom of speech .. we are all entitled to our opinions he disagreed with u over politics .. it wasn’t personal

  • @hamzanaveed6933
    @hamzanaveed6933 Жыл бұрын

    Great podcast, love your podcasts as always, here I will appreciate Muzammil for confronting every single thing and trying to clear especially in front of public, it really need guts to constantly face the criticism patiently and dont react, both of you guys has taught the public how to resolve any personal matter in a civilised manner❤

  • @muhammadzakir5636
    @muhammadzakir5636 Жыл бұрын

    What a man Muzammil is! Amazing podcast! Hats off for facing every question so fiercely yet comfortably.

  • @axzostavicii7765

    @axzostavicii7765

    Жыл бұрын

    But still Pti sucks

  • @faraazsiddiqui1450

    @faraazsiddiqui1450

    Жыл бұрын

    @@axzostavicii7765 PMLN and PPP sucks more than PTI.

  • @azizkhan938
    @azizkhan938 Жыл бұрын

    Boht sakhat podcast. Aag aur paani ka milaap. Kudos to Shehzad for inviting Muzammil and hats off to Muzammil for being as honest as possible.

  • @Usmankhan-tb1bm
    @Usmankhan-tb1bm Жыл бұрын

    Kudos to Muzammil for coming on the podcast and facing these tough questions like a champ. Didn't think he had it in him. Although I love Shehzad, I think sometimes he starts cutting people during a conversation. It's counter-productive and makes the other person defensive, instead of answering the question.

  • @imaliazhar

    @imaliazhar

    Жыл бұрын

    The cutting-in is absolutely necessary for keeping the guest on topic because on uncomfortable topics. Keeps the conversation sharp and interesting otherwise people start blabbering and jump from one topic to another without addressing it properly.

  • @Usmankhan-tb1bm

    @Usmankhan-tb1bm

    Жыл бұрын

    @@ThePakistanExperience bro batain karna aur TV show host karney mein faraak hai.

  • @wajeehamujeeb127
    @wajeehamujeeb127 Жыл бұрын

    Shahzad was getting offended and was not letting Muzammil talk properly. Just because you know alot of terms it does not mean you cannot be immature and negative. I just can't grope the fact that PPP and PML-N had held jalsas during Covid. Asifa ardari with Masters in Global Health urged people to come out. As a student of Geography and Disaster Management , i feel COP 27 and other climate change work has been going on in the concerned departments. Please keep the politics aside. Politicians are just shit.

  • @alihaider5190
    @alihaider5190 Жыл бұрын

    why would shehzad discuss something on the public forum that muzammil discussed in private?

  • @alihaider5190

    @alihaider5190

    Жыл бұрын

    @@ThePakistanExperience thanks for the update

  • @Faiza-Irfan
    @Faiza-Irfan Жыл бұрын

    This was such a brilliant podcast - I loved loved every bit of it - it was heartening to see men expressing their vulnerability especially leading Podcast owners of the country - 👏👏👏👏thanks for spreading the message of openness, apology, empathy and mutual respect in the end - thank you Shehzad and Muzammil for this episode - brilliant work guys!!

  • @DanishAyubCarpeDiem
    @DanishAyubCarpeDiem Жыл бұрын

    you invited Muzamil yet you didn't even let him complete any of his arguments.

  • @Faiza-Irfan
    @Faiza-Irfan Жыл бұрын

    Honestly, I have never seen Muzammil’s podcast but after seeing this episode I will definitely look into that - because it takes integrity and grace to own your mistakes and apologize-

  • @cryptowithdani7200
    @cryptowithdani7200 Жыл бұрын

    I have been listening to many Pakistani podcasts since two years now and I don't remember if I heard this long podcast. This might be the longest podcast in Pakistan as far as I know, correct me if I'm wrong. Pakistani content is heading towards right direction ❤️

  • @hamzamujahid4286
    @hamzamujahid4286 Жыл бұрын

    Halfway through this podcast I made up my mind to write mean about you and your podcast but then I decided to watch full lenght and man what a podcast it was. Loved it to bits. Kudos to both of you.

  • @maryamazaz2634
    @maryamazaz2634 Жыл бұрын

    New follower here and I must say, this podcast managed to keep me engaged throughout. It was refreshing to see raw, honest and productive conversations like these, it’s incredibly brave to have difficult conversations where both parties manage to see their own vices and hold each other accountable.

  • @case497
    @case49717 күн бұрын

    @Muzzamil bhai... hats off❤️❤️❤️ Love you always 💞 such a humble person, how difficult for you to face such an arrogant opponent but you have done great,kudos to you! Shezad ghias will remember his this behavior and one day he'll apologize you publicly...✅

  • @Roadbunkrz
    @Roadbunkrz Жыл бұрын

    Muzamil is so well behaved and calm in this podcast. Very genuinely done podcast. Loved every bit of it.

  • @murtazaali7038
    @murtazaali7038 Жыл бұрын

    Uncomfortable conversation for Muzamil for sure but he kept along with the conversation so that was great! Shehzad didnt show any mercy and Muzamil was lost for words on a number occasions. I guess Muzamil had the answer but couldnt really construct them as bouncers kept on coming!

  • @hafsakhan2226
    @hafsakhan2226 Жыл бұрын

    @46:41 shehzad says why are you relying on ppl's comments ... n he himself relied on Muzammil's comment... n created a viral scene in podcast ! 👏 wow 👏

  • @thesherazjaved7478
    @thesherazjaved7478 Жыл бұрын

    What an amazing podcast. Both guys have opposite views on some topics and atlast they both agree on one conclusion. These type of debates should be encourage so that the audience can get a rational and critical analysis. Respect❤️🙌🏻👍🏼

  • @sohaibahmadkhan6108
    @sohaibahmadkhan6108 Жыл бұрын

    Host was hell bent to roast him but Muzammil Hassan take it as mature learned man

  • @f.50

    @f.50

    Жыл бұрын

    you've clearly never watched TPE before, you just came here from the TBT group to comment here

  • @alihaider5190

    @alihaider5190

    Жыл бұрын

    @@f.50 I watched tpe when it started streaming, and shezad has come a long way, but I think personal confrontation could have gone off cam, would have been magnanimity on the side of shehzad . .

  • @f.50

    @f.50

    Жыл бұрын

    @@alihaider5190 why? Both are sort of public figures with a public beef, if they decided to settle it publicly, why do others have a problem with that.

  • @alihaider5190

    @alihaider5190

    Жыл бұрын

    @@f.50 because it wasn't apparently looking settled, rather pushed, however, shezad has given a detailed comment on this that it is settled... Visuals have great power :)

  • @danyalmuhammad2598
    @danyalmuhammad2598 Жыл бұрын

    I believe that discussing private chats in a public show and making the other guy apologize to you in front of the entire world is unprofessional.

  • @ahmerahmed6559
    @ahmerahmed6559 Жыл бұрын

    Kudos to both of you for having this conversation.

  • @chillimilli5116
    @chillimilli5116 Жыл бұрын

    what's up with host continuously attacking the guest & all these sarcastic comments in between then pulling up screenshots of private group? Host have no manners about conducting a podcast. Learn from Muzamil, see how calm and tolerant he is. Maybe host was trying to create drama for views. Disgusting.

  • @samibabar9543
    @samibabar9543 Жыл бұрын

    I really felt bad for Muzammil when he broke down to tears. Political discourse aside, you two were having very real and vulnerable discussion. Too good!

  • @tutorstown973

    @tutorstown973

    Жыл бұрын

    Where did he?

  • @ibrahimsaud9589

    @ibrahimsaud9589

    Жыл бұрын

    @@tutorstown973 1:43

  • @xk3168
    @xk3168 Жыл бұрын

    I will come here everyday to comment that shahzad sir needs to learn ..how to listen to another's point of view and not to interrupt when someone is trying to explain

  • @ahsanjahangir8834
    @ahsanjahangir8834 Жыл бұрын

    Its wonderful that there’s a conversation between the two sides. A humane one. Great stuff Shehzad. Keep these coming. Hats off to Muzammil that he came to the podcast and had this difficult conversation.

  • @abdmalik08
    @abdmalik08 Жыл бұрын

    First time watching you and love the podcasting style! Really enjoyed the civil discourse. New favourite Pakistani podcaster for sure 💃🏻

  • @RzwnUll
    @RzwnUll16 күн бұрын

    Muzamil is far more professional, polite, decent and has the loudest thoughts but yet very well expressed. Shahzad has such a casual attitude and his thoughts are so rigid and based on a pre prepared mind set of bashing.

  • @humaira917
    @humaira917 Жыл бұрын

    2 hours into the podcast and I am so happy I deleted all my social media (except youtube) five years ago. Life is much more peaceful and intentional.

  • @jahanzaibsiddiqui9944
    @jahanzaibsiddiqui9944 Жыл бұрын

    Good to see "ACTUAL DISCUSSIONS" happening. So good to see such content

  • @liliths_

    @liliths_

    Жыл бұрын

    Actual discussion? I found this guy muzammil an absolute disappointment. If this guy is the reflection of Pakistan’s youth, no wonder pakistan is the way it is.

  • @ctscan3088

    @ctscan3088

    Жыл бұрын

    @@liliths_ agreed, underwhelming just like his podcast.

  • @zeeshantaj55

    @zeeshantaj55

    Жыл бұрын

    @@liliths_ he just keeps on shilling about himself and his idiotic achievements.

  • @ammarannadeema6416

    @ammarannadeema6416

    Жыл бұрын

    @@ThePakistanExperienceIt was a good podcast but it was not cool to discuss private msgs on public podcast you could hav solved this issue with him personally. secondly u both r knowledgable but muzamil seemed more logical and precise during arguments also him saying again and again that i m not defending and yet u used this caption for ur podcast seems that u r badly trying to prove him a pti worker ,starting from dmw discussion to caption all ur effort was in proving him to be son pti payroll. Be precise and avoid personal biases while on podcast otherwise ur podcasts are great. Good luck

  • @Harishumayun0345
    @Harishumayun0345 Жыл бұрын

    Such an intense podcast! I commend both of you. Great stuff.

  • @maryqtT
    @maryqtT Жыл бұрын

    I'm halfway of this podcast and I can't stop myself writting down some thoughts here. First of all I am a huge fan of Shehzad's podcasts. He's having conversations, nobody is having!! Having that said, this podcast has something, it is so so so real. So raw! I do not know much about Muzamil, so many of the background stories I had no idea about. Still, you could perfectly see on the first hour his need of defending himself. Like I felt kind of pity for him, even a little anbnoyed where he wasn't ready to assume some facts... Later, how bravely Shehzad put out some "personal" attacks to him and I was about to cry. This felt so real, so humaningly true. Finally a podcast that make us see how we humans are, full of flwas, full of doubts, full of 'feelings'. I love how this shows that we must sit down and talk peacefully, even when we complain, do it right, listen to each other. And right now I'm where Muzamil starts to cry. I had to stop to write this down before it changes my perspective at the end of the podcast. This converstation has touched me differently Shehzad. You're doing such great job MashAllah! Hope to sit down someday talking about everything in your podcast, Regards xxxxxxxx

  • @asmapatel2065

    @asmapatel2065

    Жыл бұрын

    ❤ 👌

  • @usamatabbassum7350
    @usamatabbassum7350 Жыл бұрын

    This is called a genuine conversation. A genuine podcast. Although, this is my 1st, if not the second podcast I am watching on The Pakistan Experience, but the way Mr. Ghiaz questioned every question to Mr. Muzammil was amazing. And the way, Mr. Muzammil answered each and every question was great.

  • @waqasbukharis
    @waqasbukharis Жыл бұрын

    This is nothing but a senseless argument... Host keep interrupting guest.. closing this video... Its nuisance... Please keep integrity of podcast.. it is like a tv debate that we hate and come to KZread for some meaningful discussion.. very disappointed

  • @HiHassanIftikhar
    @HiHassanIftikhar Жыл бұрын

    1:43:35 It hurt me so much that good people go through this. It is part of life that make you more strong.

  • @waqarwajid_56

    @waqarwajid_56

    Жыл бұрын

    Yeah social media is really fucked up

  • @zaidsaleem1723

    @zaidsaleem1723

    Жыл бұрын

    YOU READ MY MIND. The host is such a petty person

  • @drsairasarfraz
    @drsairasarfraz Жыл бұрын

    I am a fan of (a kind of) Muzammil. Only because he knows what he is doing....he knows how to motivate ppl .... And honestly muzammil you spoke very well on this podcast. And they you cries for Hamna's pain....you took my heart away ....crying....brb 🥺

  • @ahmedaliabbasi
    @ahmedaliabbasi Жыл бұрын

    Muzamil has this awesome ability to stick to the message.. also handled the hosts inability to do the same..walked away holding his own

  • @bashaarh4224
    @bashaarh4224 Жыл бұрын

    Also loved learning more about Muzammil. Had no idea about the social media interaction between you two. Almost feeling regretful about asking you when this is coming out at Napa on Sunday. I might have probably come across as a troll but I meant what I said, I'm an avid listener and a huge fan of you in general. Thank you for sharing your thoughts with us. It is a privilege to be able to sit in a room with you. Metaphorically, at least.

  • @dbs1919
    @dbs1919 Жыл бұрын

    Funny how Shahzad Ghias was constantly judging Muzamil for being politically biased despite his own biasedness due to personal grudges & political inclinations which was evident throughout. Hats off to Muzammil for being so patient to all this hypocrisy while maintaining his eloquence at the same time. Even the middle class discussion came out of Shehzad trying to corner him publicly which was just based on a private group discussion. Shehzad you're doing a good job but sorry to say you've always been negative & the first time I witnessed this is when you blamed Tabish Hashmi for looting some amount of money from you in the QWS show ... remember? You have this habit of bringing up personal issues on live shows which obviously can always be sorted offline. Here's the link to that show: kzread.info/dash/bejne/gKOIk7Oko66cgNo.html ( Skip to 1:02:00)

  • @HiHassanIftikhar
    @HiHassanIftikhar Жыл бұрын

    Muzamil bhai ki respect aor barh gyi meri nazar mein. He is gem of a person ❤️

  • @humayun007
    @humayun007 Жыл бұрын

    2:17:46 How could Shaukat Tereen possibly have acted on his own? If he acted on his own, why was he not given a show-cause notice by PTI? Afterward, PTI leadership even came out in his defense. Muzammil accepts IK tried to crash the economy by fixing fuel prices but chose not to accept that Shaukat Tareen acted on IK's will when he tried to sabotage the IMF deal. Muzamil Bhai really needs a detox from PTI propaganda.

  • @AdilAmeerPutin
    @AdilAmeerPutin Жыл бұрын

    I like the conversation except Syed's insistence on separating himself from PTI's rhetoric. He is using an elitist framing, blaming every bad argument made in the favor of pti on "aam aadmi" and posturing as the "parha likha" spokesperson. Edit: I wrote that after watching the first 30 minutes. By halfway through the podcast, his mask of respectability completely shatters. Thank you Shehzad for holding his feet to the fire.

  • @maazshah381
    @maazshah381 Жыл бұрын

    The major reason behind muzamil bhae's lack of understanding of populism is that he doesn't understand what providing simplistic solutions for complex problems means. ( For example, "Roti, kapra, Makan" is not a simplistic solution, yes these are mere three words but their implementation requires changing the overhaul of Pakistan's governance model; "Vote ko izzat do" is not again a simplistic solution, you have to implement rule of law and democratic culture in letter and spirit to follow this slogan which is quite a lengthy task; "Tax the rich" is again not a simplistic solution to a complex problem; but arresting two or three political opponents for correcting the entire flaws in Pakistan's governance model is surely a simplistic solution). There is a huge difference between providing a simple solution for complex problems and providing well-thought-out solutions portrayed simply for a complex problem. Muzamil bhae words pe mat jaeye concepts or nature of the argument pe Jayen. And in the last muzamil bhae just like the scientific or factual things you or I can't change the definition of populism according to our point of views. Populism is a political concept and it lies at the forefront of Modern Political Science, its definition or concept is neither established by far-right nor far-left, it is an academic work.

  • @fatimariaz5432

    @fatimariaz5432

    Жыл бұрын

    This comment needs to be much higher up the thread!

  • @snkamil

    @snkamil

    Жыл бұрын

    💯

  • @HKG432

    @HKG432

    Жыл бұрын

    well said brother

  • @umerfarooq2045
    @umerfarooq2045 Жыл бұрын

    Having watched this podcast, I convinced that Musamil was way way more open minded and pragmatist who was having a policy oriented approach than Shahzad bhai who was more into the political rhetoric and historical debate on war between politicians and establishment than practical solution to the various problems faced by the country.

  • @holidayplatform2570

    @holidayplatform2570

    Жыл бұрын

    Lol Muzamil created multiple fallacies.. and salute to shehzad not letting him get away with bullshit

  • @faraazsiddiqui1450

    @faraazsiddiqui1450

    Жыл бұрын

    @@holidayplatform2570 For me both are biased as Shehzad is Noon league supporter and Muzamil is PTI supporter.Both are needed to disaffiliate themselves from political parties.

  • @holidayplatform2570

    @holidayplatform2570

    Жыл бұрын

    @@faraazsiddiqui1450 He is not affiliated In any way with N league... How can you be so sure he is patwari ..

  • @ridaanwar5487
    @ridaanwar5487 Жыл бұрын

    If I had a conversation with my viva teacher... this would be the entire show

  • @alihaider5190

    @alihaider5190

    Жыл бұрын

    hahahahahahahahahaha , thanks for making me laugh in a time of stress

  • @redcancerian
    @redcancerian Жыл бұрын

    I loved this podcast the way you two opened up to things that arent and will never come in the spotlight. ❤

  • @owaisahmad7841
    @owaisahmad7841 Жыл бұрын

    Love the civilised manner in which the two young men talk about their differences without hiding their biases. I like it. To me positions either one takes on different issues including with respect to each other is not important. What is more important is their honesty, openness, civility and respecting each others views. Wish Pakistanis could take the tight message from this discussion.

  • @aunthegeek5788
    @aunthegeek5788 Жыл бұрын

    This was fantastic, keep it up both of you.

  • @azamsaleem4116
    @azamsaleem4116 Жыл бұрын

    1:22:04 He is not doing podcast. He is just pursuing some personal agenda.

  • @usamamushtaqbhutta8908
    @usamamushtaqbhutta8908 Жыл бұрын

    Other comments will let you know regarding the awesomeness of this podcast. However, as someone who has watched loads of Muzamil's podcasts, I also got emotional from 1:43:05 to 1:44:07. Considering the fact that he knows the power of words and uses it effectively, that moment was very surprising for me. Cheer up lad! All of us make mistakes, but accepting them takes real courage.

  • @abdulrehmankhan4860

    @abdulrehmankhan4860

    Жыл бұрын

    Ooh shut up you become emotional

  • @usamamushtaqbhutta8908

    @usamamushtaqbhutta8908

    Жыл бұрын

    @@abdulrehmankhan4860 I really respect your opinion. Just an advice, your words really show your background and upbringing, so kindly use them wisely. May Allah bless you :)

  • @positivevibes.873
    @positivevibes.873 Жыл бұрын

    I'm surprised that sometimes the host is not even one percent ready to hear. 😅😂

  • @mehnazfarhan7073
    @mehnazfarhan7073 Жыл бұрын

    Both of them are being real to the core … an epic podcast

  • @MuhammadAbdullah-vx4pk
    @MuhammadAbdullah-vx4pk Жыл бұрын

    Yaar your questions are getting very mature , precise and relavant recently. Good work

  • @adityaadi4435
    @adityaadi4435 Жыл бұрын

    Seems like Muzamil is trying to learn. He is a bright person. We all have believed in things we are ashamed of now. Let people heal , let them learn and grow. Let’s not put them down so they feel scared to change. Good to hear his side. Hope he brings more guests who challenge his beliefs.

  • @ridaanwar5487

    @ridaanwar5487

    Жыл бұрын

    If at the end you say I'll still vote the same party then you've your mind made up for not liking things in a rational way and admitting the horse you bet on turned out to be sick

  • @minhajraza6740

    @minhajraza6740

    Жыл бұрын

    Great Analysis 💯👍🏻

  • @ajslife3961
    @ajslife3961 Жыл бұрын

    It is less of a podcast and more of a scrutiny of Muzamil Hasan Zaidi.

  • @opdcanatan
    @opdcanatan Жыл бұрын

    Thank you so much to the both of you. Lots of love your way (and Humna too)!!

  • @rayyanuddin6346
    @rayyanuddin6346 Жыл бұрын

    Thought process of syed muzzamil is so pure, deligent and mature. Amazing podcast.

  • @saadalikhan4147
    @saadalikhan4147 Жыл бұрын

    To host: Arey Bhai aglay ko bolnay to do Khair it's a great Convo to hear

  • @IndusBoy
    @IndusBoy Жыл бұрын

    Best PodCast bashing Eachother with healthy discussions and opening up as a Human Enjoyed every second PTI vs PMLN vs PPP was enjoyable 🎉♥️

  • @sewaligoswami781
    @sewaligoswami781 Жыл бұрын

    Damn! I felt it in my heart. So many genuine heartfelt moments in this one. Amazing.

  • @rebeakhwaja9117
    @rebeakhwaja9117 Жыл бұрын

    Cant wait to put the kids to bed an be glued to this episode!!

  • @mazfars
    @mazfars Жыл бұрын

    These are the types of discussions that are healthy for our future. You know I don't agree with your views but you are doing an amazing job having these kinds of discussions. Resubscribed.

  • @thehungrylecturer
    @thehungrylecturer Жыл бұрын

    This wasn't just a hard conversation for you both, but for me as a viewer too. Took me around 3 weeks to completely watch this podcast in bits and pieces.. but the last 10 mins or so helped me let go of all the uncomfortable feeling I had while watching it. Good job🙌🏻

  • @saraaliq

    @saraaliq

    Жыл бұрын

    💯

  • @muhammadzain7299

    @muhammadzain7299

    11 ай бұрын

    true

  • @KhanG-ug4sn
    @KhanG-ug4sn Жыл бұрын

    my two favorite podcast creators in one frame love it please make part 2🌹🖤

  • @muffihps
    @muffihps Жыл бұрын

    Maybe this was not the best occasion to confront a guest about some remarks ( albeit of personal nature ) he has made in the past and try to embarrass him in a Podcast that ten of thousands of people would ultimately watch. Also, I felt at many points, Shehzad was not allowing the guest to talk and cutting him off in the middle. Could have perhaps adopted a more polite approach.

  • @omerfarooq4642
    @omerfarooq4642 Жыл бұрын

    Shehzad, the way you confronted Muzammil was incredible! A mix of yorkers and bouncers that put him on the back foot. I hope he refrains from doing the things he had done previously, although highly doubt it

  • @rafiazafar2616
    @rafiazafar2616 Жыл бұрын

    Shehzad, I have been watching your podcasts since the last one year and this today has won my heart. I love you for the bravery with which you confronted Muzammil. I admire you for your honesty and not trying to become a people pleaser just because they're on your podcast. Muzammil is doing great work too, i like his podcasts too. But with your podcasts, I as a Pakistani feel more connected and heard because you really ask the most important, relevant and difficult questions. i have learned how to ask good questions from you. thank you and more power to you!!💕

  • @tulipseverywhere
    @tulipseverywhere Жыл бұрын

    ok i am feeling pity for the host,,,he is literally belittling muzamil... may allah have mercy on the host and on muzamil too.

  • @aimenmohsin12
    @aimenmohsin12 Жыл бұрын

    You're so good at confrontations Shahzad. I find them scary!😭

  • @ehtishammalik5830

    @ehtishammalik5830

    Жыл бұрын

    No way😂😂

  • @taimurkhan686

    @taimurkhan686

    Жыл бұрын

    @@ThePakistanExperience we want that therapy too

  • @umairarshad2100
    @umairarshad2100 Жыл бұрын

    Whattay podcast. Loved every minute of it.

  • @justasimplehuman2099
    @justasimplehuman2099 Жыл бұрын

    Such a great podcast I haven't listen to this kind of podcast where one just ask and the other was like yeah you are right and huge respect to Syed Muzammil that he try to listen and give his version which can be questionable and criticized but these kind of intellectual debate will surely progress to the country and make us enlightened huge respect to both of you ❤

  • @mahirazafar4262
    @mahirazafar4262 Жыл бұрын

    They both gonna remember this conversation for many years to come. And that's the beauty of having an open conversation. I do disagree with a few points made by Mr. Shehzad on personal instances, same as I disagree with Mr. Muzammil's view points about politics. But then again, this podcast wasn't about listeners as much it was about them. They sat, had long convo on and off camera, cried, laughed and try to learn through their mistakes. It's beautiful. More power your way ❤️

  • @jiltariq
    @jiltariq Жыл бұрын

    1:38:15 why should one not protect oneself when someone is bullying them. I’m glad Humna and Muzamil stood up for themselves. Shahzad has just called Muzamil to the show to ask him regarding things he said about him.

  • @saintsam7397
    @saintsam7397 Жыл бұрын

    Never been a Muzamil fan before this podcast. A sane man and quite a reasonable person as well. Shehzad’s confrontation part was a lil petty, itna b personal nai tha wo comment, but damn he really was hurt. Kudos to Muzamil for his answers. And yeah Shehzad’s take on PTI seems very biased, as if there’s nothing okay about that party when compared to others, which is weird.

  • @amajeedsyed2291

    @amajeedsyed2291

    Жыл бұрын

    I agree too.. in the garb of criticism .. Shahbaz displays a very bitter biasness against PTI.

  • @justasimplehuman2099
    @justasimplehuman2099 Жыл бұрын

    1:43:10 Muzammil stay strong don't show your weak side to others ALLAH is with you, i Love you so much stay strong buddy ❤

  • @unseenrealities5332
    @unseenrealities5332 Жыл бұрын

    best ever show to watch...amazing..there is some stuff between both of them which they sorted during the conversation .i hope we should do that

  • @alimuhammadbaig5054
    @alimuhammadbaig5054 Жыл бұрын

    when an unstopable force meets an immovable object 😎

  • @manishmohapatra8320

    @manishmohapatra8320

    Жыл бұрын

    Chessbase Indian fan spotted 😂🔥

  • @mosthonestcommentor

    @mosthonestcommentor

    Жыл бұрын

    Stupid muzammil can't even differentiate between the left and liberals

  • @CoolWinter

    @CoolWinter

    Жыл бұрын

    People like you are the reason god created middle finger. Shehzad keeps being successful, famous, kind, beautiful and rich and No jobless troll could ever change that. Jealousy is a disease. Get well soon

  • @sanaiqbal4469

    @sanaiqbal4469

    Жыл бұрын

    @@ThePakistanExperience Ofc, Muzamil bhai is unstoppable force😃

  • @Javachipxoxo

    @Javachipxoxo

    Жыл бұрын

    Ghandu motay tuje baat bhee karni ati Bsdk Kheta who is who Loray tu samajhta kia hy apnay app ku gandi awaz waly

  • @unknownstar9330
    @unknownstar9330 Жыл бұрын

    One of the best podcast i have seen. Both you are brave inspite of differences in almost everything you both sat and discussed beautifully

  • @sydzainraza
    @sydzainraza Жыл бұрын

    It's always wonderful to see two people with differing political opinions sitting together and talking things out. I was pleasantly surprised to see Muzammil agreeing with a lot of toxic things that PTI supporters do. It was also great to see him openly say that he doesn't agree with the views of bigots like Ali Mohammed. Clearly such conversations need to happen so we can see how much more we agree on rather than disagree. Thank you for always trying to do your best to heal the divide Shehzad! Your podcast continues to surprise and helps unlearn so much.

  • @jiltariq
    @jiltariq Жыл бұрын

    1:49:27 what an important discussion, people think that a public forum is a free for all. One can say anything and not be held accountable. More power to the both of you for handling this whole thing so respectfully and decently. If only everyone could act as responsibly on social media and in real life. Please remember if at any point your current roles bring you to a breaking point - chuck it! Nothings worth your mental health

  • @rafayq
    @rafayq Жыл бұрын

    Didn't expect this to drop today! Looking forward to it!

  • @TheSaboorAnsari

    @TheSaboorAnsari

    Жыл бұрын

    @@ThePakistanExperience better release quality podcasts like these over the weekend (just a suggestion)

  • @usaeedusama9162
    @usaeedusama9162 Жыл бұрын

    Loved the podcast, learnt alot from it. Feels like 3 hours passed by in just a glimpse

  • @amnaiya
    @amnaiya Жыл бұрын

    Imran Khan and PTI needs to FACE the fact that if they want to gain LEGITIMATE support they NEED to COME on THE PAKISTAN EXPERIENCE! ❤

  • @baigubaid007
    @baigubaid007 Жыл бұрын

    @1:13 that time when i found out it’s not a podcast but a personal grudge.

  • @alihaider5190

    @alihaider5190

    Жыл бұрын

    And taking it out on social , Uncalled for

  • @superg8787
    @superg8787 Жыл бұрын

    Could clearly see flaws in how the guest paints narrative but that's how discourse works. U listen as well. Loved it!

  • @arslansohail6254
    @arslansohail6254 Жыл бұрын

    Loved the podcast hats off to Shahzad Bhai❤ I changed my thoughts about you after this podcast

  • @mustafakamal3657
    @mustafakamal3657 Жыл бұрын

    Btw great podcast 👍 loved it. Learned a lot of things.

  • @muhammadali6981
    @muhammadali6981 Жыл бұрын

    tough talk man, both of you hats off , i love listening you guys.

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