Gary Gorniak for Governor. Its so refreshing to hear someone speak common sense about wolves and to be spot on on every fact regarding wolves and whats happening with the UP deer herd. I also want to add, a big thank you to Discover the U.P.!! I am in awe that you have spent the time and devoted your space giving Gary the platform for people to hear his voice and the voice of the common sportsman that knows more about whats really happening in our U.P. outdoors than our own Michigan DNR. Hopefully we have reached a turning point in they can't hide the crash any longer. With the mandated online reporting and the mild winter this year, the DNR's lies will be very exposed this next deer season of 24 for sure. However, Chad Steward did try to create a talking point, saying they are still going to send out deer surveys via mail implying because they're not sure of the accuracy of online reporting yet. Will the DNR never quit trying to make up excuses as to the low harvest numbers. Enough is enough. Lastly, just because the DNR issues doe tags, it does not mean we hunters have to buy or use them. If you want to do a small part and help return the numbers back upwards, then I'd encourage you to lay off the does for a few years regardless of what population numbers are being stated by the DNR. Its seems its really up to us to practice conservation from here on, the Mi DNR has clearly failed.

Absolutely correct Politics.

@REIronminer

4 ай бұрын

Keep voting for them DEMS

Nice to hear from people that actually spend time in the UP woods that see and understand what’s going on. No longer any coyote’s in the UP where I hunt, but there are more wolves than deer. I believe that some of the DNR so called biologists are educated beyond their intelligence!

Keep up the good work Gary. We appreciate your efforts.

I'm from Wisconsin. It no longer is a trophy state at least the Northern half. Our camp in Bayfield county 11 hunters. 9 days. Hunt all day wet dry or cold. We sit. We drive. Our totals this year were 7 seen. None harvested. 7 deer 9 days 11 seasoned hunters. You ain't alone

@brettharnisch6952

4 ай бұрын

Same here. Our camp in is Bayfield County. 11 hunters hunted all 9 days. Spotted 7 deer. Harvested none. I drew the bad card opening morning at 7:24am I had a pack of 8 wolves come through. Same thing here. We sit, we drive, we still hunt. Cover a lot of ground in general. 🤷‍♂️

Thanks Gary..I'd love to help you any way I can. You are so CORRECT!!!

Great video, thank you for sharing. Hopefully things change soon.

I live in southeast Chippewa county and have hunted all over the UP for 50 years I see fewer deer now than all the years I have hunted. Even back in the 70s I saw way more deer. I had a photo of a cougar on trail cam last feb 27th sent to dnr have never had a responce

@tonydentonarms4112

4 ай бұрын

I started hunting in 1975 we hunted two year before we seen a track. This year and last year I never seen a deer sad

@davidolson8559

4 ай бұрын

The real problem in Michigan is 58,984 deer-involved crashes in Michigan in 2022. Wolf kills don’t even come close to any of this in any particular manner. You’re barking up the wrong tree. Literally. Hunters you want more deer tell your friends and neighbors to quit driving. I’m sure you know somebody that’s had one this year.

@brucebigos1054

4 ай бұрын

@@davidolson8559 check the car deer accidents in the UP. I rarely see dead deer on the road they are all down state where I presume you live.

@tonydentonarms4112

4 ай бұрын

@@davidolson8559 you have a lot to learn

I couldn't agree more with what he is saying. There are more wolves than deer in north western Chippewa county.

GARY THANK YOU you are spot on with the wolf topic just seen 5 at my friends cabin .hunted 46 years in da up

Best interview I've ever seen..Gary has it totally right. I hope the dnr listen to him. It's a sad sad deal what's happened to the deer herd in upper peninsula. I've hunted there 35 yrs saw and felt what happened when the wolves showed up. They ruined the UP in so many ways

His idea of a diverse group of ideas is what is needed now with our geopolitical environment. I pray my grandchildren can enjoy a thriving wildlife ecosystem Stay safe and harness up my fellow wildlife enthusiasts

@roberthollinshead2325

4 ай бұрын

It's almost done Bryan. The folks protecting the wolves and bowing down to their controllers hold all the power. A few more years and the Northern herd won't ever recover. If the wolf numbers get taken down drastically it will still take 10-20 years for the herd to recover to the population numbers you probably experienced. And that's if the wolf numbers continued to be managed. Think hunting will survive through this? Will it be legal to hunt during the deer herd recovery stage?

I live in the Eastern UP and I don't see nearly as much small game as ten years ago. Yet, I hear wolves howl 3-4 times a week and see tracks daily in the winter. I also see tracks frequently in river banks in the mud. Rarely do I see a shooter buck.

@timjones8184

4 ай бұрын

The snow shoe hares are all but gone from the western U.P. Along with the deer.

Thank you so much Gary for your hard work and pointing out thus disgusting wolf problems we have. I could write 10 pages on the problems they have caused in the UP including the complete destruction of our deer herd. I've spent weeks over 35 yrs of hunting there and trapping. Anybody wants to argue..I'm here!!!

Great video!!!

My family has property and a camp in Moran twp as well. 3 years ago, the last year we hunted for Deer there, we saw 10 wolves chasing 1 doe. Since then we have had 6-8 cameras in a 2 mile radius of our camp and we have seen only 1 doe. Last spring the doe had a fawn with her. By August she was alone again. Last September and October we spent a lot of time scouting and Bear hunting in the area. We saw quite a few Bears no Deer and numerous Wolves on all our cameras. There has been logging activity in the area over the past 20 years however there is still good winter habitat around there with cedar, balsam and hemlock as well as poplar so they cant blame the decrease in Deer on just that.

Thank you for showing this .

12 times bow hunting and 8 times gun hunting I never saw a deer this year in Mackinac County. I fish night and day on the Carp River in Mackinac County and never saw a deer on the river all Spring, Summer, and Fall.

@ChrisWilliams-nu1sf

4 ай бұрын

So after your fishing observations you thought things would be better during deer season?

great video. nothing will get done with who we have in charge. and the attorney general sending a letter to the judge? a governer is anti hunter and putting a person in charge of the dnr that was in charge of the damn lottery. know one will say anything in fear of loosing there job.

Hunting just down the road from you Rexton. Last 3 years have been terrible use to see 4 to 10 deer a day now most days don't see any. Don't know how it could get this bad. Why do we have doe permits? We won't have a hunt able herd if this continues. Winter is nothing like it was in the past.

We have the same issue here in Northern Wisconsin. We had more wolves on Bear baits then bears last year are deer population is near nonexistent

Like around here,deer are all around town ,but not much in woods,same with iron river area.

That's 631 per county. I've noticed the coyotes are getting very brazen around my camp. I was charged by one last fall while grouse hunting. And coming much closer to the cabin. Are they getting that hungry.

I live in Northern Wisconsin and have the same problem. Guess our politicians are enjoying our licence fee's. I say we stop buying license's and vote these people out.

I like the comment, "refuse to buy a deer tag", if you don't see deer I guess your out squirrel hunting! Think what a statement hunters could make If Michigan sportsman groups could get hunters/sportsman aligned if those in charge of DNR and NRC don't start coming to the table with real life solutions and better deer and wildlife management decision and not purchase deer tags for a season creating a boycott, hit em where it hurts in the pocket book, maybe they would listen and want to work together. Unfortunately, this would probably hurt a lot smaller business which is not the intention. I would definitely do it for a year if it would get things moving before situations get worse.

@REIronminer

4 ай бұрын

That is the only thing they will listen too…. But their Marxist elite bosses do not care. This is their goal. It is purpose driven.

Minnesota Wisconsin an Michigan Department of Natural Resources have been under estimated the population of wolves for quite some time .The logging practices have not help the situation over harvesting of evergreen cover especially!

As a hunter for 50 years i have watched populations go up and down, this is bad. We (hunters)paid for moose reintroduction but never received a chance to hunt them. Are moose declining also?

Deer hunters realize the problem because we are the true conservationists. I'll share your video but today's politicians don't listen once elected and we're not represented by the DNR. I've watched this deer biologist and he clearly doesn't have a clue about deer and management.

@maxwellkaiser7205

4 ай бұрын

The guy in the video is a biologist?

Deer hunting is going to be like pheasant hunting in Michigan, it's over with, the DNR childishly won't take responsibility because they don't own all the property, even though their responsible for game management, the best deer population in Michigan is where the DNR has the least amount of control, deer hunting is just done in the upper peninsula, its just like what happened to the elk herd in Idaho when wolves were introduced it went from 30,000 elk to less than 1000 elk, it's just over

@REIronminer

4 ай бұрын

While I agree it is over; I disagree that the MDNR won’t take responsibility. They own it. It has been purpose driven. While it’s easy to say it’s politics; it’s also easy to miss that it is ideology that drives the politics. I.e. the policy. We are where we are on purpose driven policy; until the hunting community realizes that….and tells the folks whom are driving this disaster that we are done working with them; we & the deer herd are doomed.

@robinflint6100

4 ай бұрын

@@REIronminer yes blame the citizens and not the Manager's of the game, that's what the DNR childishly does about the pheasant population, taking responsibility would be admitting they have a wolf problem and they won't do that, I get it you have a relative that works for the DNR, saying it's not the fault of the people who manage the resource is rediculous and par for the course for the decline of the country, nobody wants to take responsibility, even for their own job performance, it's just childish and rediculous

Just wait till Chad Stewart ends baiting up there

Russ Mason started this problem

What is a wolf supposed to eat if not deer? Seems normal

The picture survey is not going to be accurate. Have you seen how they’ve placed the cameras anybody? What a joke. They aren’t getting the pictures. The ones they put in northern Marquette county were in bad spots and the ones in Chippewa county off H-40 were also in terrible spots. I personally saw the cameras in Chippewa county and the wolf tracks in the snow all over, they didn’t get a single pic of a wolf for a week or more at one spot but they came through regularly. If they really want wolf pictures just ask and we can provide them.

Insurance company pay offs. L'anse has more deer downtown than the forest.

@jonstafford2691

Ай бұрын

My camp is between l'anse & skanee. We get a few pics of wolves every year but still have good numbers of deer. Last fall we also had good numbers of fawns with adult does. With the record mild winter of 2024 deer numbers should be good going into fall.

Predation, hunting, disease, exposure...so many things affecting numbers..

@roberthollinshead2325

4 ай бұрын

Wolves are the single biggest issue.

@REIronminer

4 ай бұрын

You been down to that Fire Station already eh…

@roberthollinshead2325

4 ай бұрын

@REIronminer if that's a comment towards me no... I don't need or want any THC.

FMDNR Social carrying capacity is long gone.

Us hunters are not in the DNRS agenda.

Two thousand is still way low. Iron county alone has hundreds. There's definitely a problem when they push inside the city limits and destroy backyard herds

Politics the number one cluster out there

Dnr and government doesn't understand who pays for things.

Wolf and coyote numbers are up not to mention cats . One of the biggest things they have to do is get rid of the two buck tags and move the youth hunt to deer season. The DNR regulate the deer Hurd by the amout of revenue the dnr needs. I started deer hunting when I was 12 . We hunted two years before we seen a track and we are not far from that now

Hunting is more than killing a buck.

If the wolf count between the DNR and the public is so different, why is it so difficult to do a count and figure it out? What is DNR’s reasoning for saying the wolf count is so low? If the public says there’s 2000, prove it. Both sides need to justify their numbers or quit talking about it until you do.

@roberthollinshead2325

4 ай бұрын

The DNR has already been caught fudging the wolf numbers. This is a top down problem within the DNR. The DNR should have nothing to do with monitoring these Federal installed animals but should be boots on the ground protecting our Michigan deer herd. We are paying for the demise of our resource the deer.

It is cheaper to go out of state and enjoy quality deer hunting. Quit hunting in michigan. Financially starve the dnr. Mark Biesecker Paradise. No deer here!

Deer hunters should all boycott next year and don't buy a license. I'm not buying one anyway cause we never see jack for deer !

The real problem in Michigan is 58,984 deer-involved crashes in Michigan in 2022. Wolf kills don’t even come close to any of this in any particular manner. You’re barking up the wrong tree. Literally. Hunters you want more deer tell your friends and neighbors to quit driving. I’m sure you know somebody that’s had one this year.

@toddweston2840

3 ай бұрын

The vast majority of those are in the lower peninsula where there are a lot of deer. I rarely see deer that have been hit on the roadsides of the upper peninsula because the deer aren’t there to get hit!

@robbourn7379

3 ай бұрын

We are talking U.P.Michigan- I drove to UP from Columbus Ohio to U.P. every weekend thru summer of 2023 to work on a cabin. Once across the Mackinaw bridge I saw ((((ZERO))))!!!!!! deer cross the Rd or dead on the Rd. 0......ZERO & a good bit of my driving was before daylight on Saturday and after dark on Sunday. I would be more worried about getting hit by lightning than hitting a deer by vehicle in U.P. Michigan.

I agree 100 percent. have camp in the northland area since the early 40's. last 5 yrs. wolves are around every 2 to 3 days have a pack of 6 that are on my cameras all year. i have great habitat with food plots and everything large and small game need. And what about the land values they have been level for years i didn't want a wolve camp it's a deer camp . spend a lot of money on tractors and attachments. i will never stop going to camp and working the land but 260 acres of wolve hunting grounds is not what i signed up for DNR YOUR SCREWING THE UPPER UP GO TO WASHINGTON AND DO YOUR JOB AND HAVE A HUNT BEFORE I DIE. THERE IS NO WAY 630 WOLVES I AGREE WITH GENTLEMAN MORE LIKE 2000 OR MORE U NEED TO TAKE TWO THIRDS OUT AND STILL PROBABLY TO MANY. SO MANY CAMPS FOR SALE AND NOBODY WANTS THEM THEY GO OUT OF STATE IF THEY HAVE ANY MONEY

@Icutmetal

4 ай бұрын

Do ya think he meant 630 per county?

@roberthollinshead2325

4 ай бұрын

James, we that have hunted these same areas for decades have seen the results of the changes over the years. I've hunted the same northern Marquette County area since 1981. We've seen what the wolves have done. We've also seen the results of rule changes regarding baiting and doe harvests and buck antler restrictions... some of them have been good and bad, but the Wolves are the number one issue hurting our herd population. It's not even debatable imo. When you spend nearly half a century in an area your knowledge trumps all the bullshit excuses the DNR can spew.