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@CynicalHistorian

4 жыл бұрын

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@CynicalHistorian

4 жыл бұрын

*[reserved for errata]*

@CynicalHistorian

4 жыл бұрын

*References* Jefferson Cowie, _The Great Exception: The New Deal and the Limits of American Politics_ (Princeton, N.Jer.: Princeton University Press, 2016). amzn.to/2ZbPOar Karen M. Tani, _States of Dependency: Welfare, Rights, and American Governance, 1935-1972_ (Cambridge, UK: Cambridge University Press, 2016). amzn.to/2ScI0n2 en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Frontier en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Deal_coalition en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Square_Deal

@Sk0lzky

4 жыл бұрын

Don't play it, I failed an exam session because of it wasting a year of my life [*]

@varana

4 жыл бұрын

@@theknave1915 No, we cannot divorce ideas from those who proposed them. Because with the idea, we borrow the whole mindset and world view that generated that idea and constitutes the prerequisites on which the idea stands. "When you believe something is right or wrong, true or false, you believe the assumptions in the words which express the arguments. Such assumptions are often full of holes, but remain most precious to the convinced", as one moderately famous guy once said. ;)

History is just politics that has already happened.

@williamfrancis5367

4 жыл бұрын

politics x time since occurred = History

@ornos3133

4 жыл бұрын

Moonatik thanks friend for making a new quote to remember.

@atlantefou566

4 жыл бұрын

History is just politics, science, art... that has already happened. In other words, it's hstory. :p

@a.n.l.aantineoliberalismas4504

4 жыл бұрын

If so why doseant the US have an healthcare system

@ornos3133

4 жыл бұрын

Traian Daoaga delayed, watered down and blocked

That moon race was probably the most expensive free stuff ever

@hubertblastinoff9001

4 жыл бұрын

Imagine if the big powers had been in a race to build the fastest trains...

@GuinessOriginal

4 жыл бұрын

Hubert Blastinoff the world would be a far better place

@sebastianpirela7329

3 жыл бұрын

Hubert Blastinoff Or the fastest Airplanes, Ships, etc. Travel would be so much faster

@antonioklaic4839

3 жыл бұрын

@@brealistic3542 conspiracy theories are bogus. Don't watch shady youtubers for easily debunked "proof" of condpiracy theories. What certification does a moronic yputuber and their more moronic audience have over scientists and actual experts? Anti-intellectual imbeciles

@antonioklaic4839

3 жыл бұрын

@Michael Kevin Millet he was an astrpnomer and scientist. Not a wackjob feeding bullshit to people who want to seem smart. Conspiracy theorists will go to insane lenghts to justify their dumb brliefs. They always ask "hehe if moon landing was rael why did/didn't NASA do this XD LMAO 1111!!1!!1!1" but if you took a second to look it up you find a simple answer if you bother to look. It's just that they're too dumb and their youtube simp target told them otherwise. I usually dismiss these people as idiots and move on but I am so angry people like that have to exist. It's not critical thinking. Parroting a youtuber who says fake facts and trivia isn't thinking. Just copying. I can counter any claim you make off my own knowledge, or by looking it up on google for a minute.

I can't get over the word "globohomo", it sounds as if a kid from middle school is trying to make fun of you because you didn't go to his birthday party.

@eazy8579

4 жыл бұрын

It does. It's the dumbest insult I've ever heard.

@nonglishq6727

4 жыл бұрын

@Sean The shape of the earth is a oblate spheroid.

@hellboy6507

4 жыл бұрын

It means “global homosexual agenda”. It was popularized by the Belarusian President.

@chonchjohnch

4 жыл бұрын

Historic Biscuit it’s a contraction for “globalist homosexual”

@NyJoanzy

4 жыл бұрын

@@chonchjohnch oh. I thought it was people who thought we hadn't colonized Mars yet. I'm not apologizing for a pun that bad.

*Someone speaks of Wilson in a good fashion* *A CyincalHistorian has been thrown in the ring* Wilsooon!!!

@hellboy6507

4 жыл бұрын

Wilson was based and a good President. -brought to you by the Wilson gang

@hiptydiptateejack8712

4 жыл бұрын

@@hellboy6507 I was about to get jumpy by this comment, but I actually read the whole thing afterwards. XD

@hellboy6507

4 жыл бұрын

HiptyDiptatee Jack lol

@hiptydiptateejack8712

4 жыл бұрын

@@hellboy6507 My bad. :)

>radical liberalism >doesn't even make sense Wouldn't it be just libertarianism tho?

@blackearl7891

4 жыл бұрын

Technically it is though

@dancingzorbas

4 жыл бұрын

>liberalism >radical

@destynova4512

4 жыл бұрын

Libertarianism and liberalism are completely different though, extreme liberalism is more like socialism, where as libertarianism is more going towards Anarchism. Completely different ends of the spectrum. Only thing in common is liber- in the words lol.

@Sk0lzky

4 жыл бұрын

@@destynova4512 not the actual, historical liberalism though. So called classical liberalism. Americans generally use the word "liberal" in a wrong way, liberal doesn't mean "leftie". The difference is mostly lack of hostility towards the state and general acceptance for some governmental programs.

@rubenvo3627

4 жыл бұрын

*makes early 1800s revolutionary noises*

14:45 how is it free if we're literally paying for it-are public roads free stuff? fire departments? public school? we pay for these things through taxes it's literally not free

@jayfrank1913

4 жыл бұрын

Taxes, what else? Every civilized society and even the U.S. has taxes wherein everyone chips in according to their means. And if you don't think the poor pay taxes, you're wrong. They pay a much higher proportion of their incomes toward taxes than the rich do. Especially sales tax.

@cv4809

4 жыл бұрын

"Free" is a buzzword they sell to the public to make the policy more attractive and appealing, welcome to politics

@hellboy6507

4 жыл бұрын

Yeah no shit it isn’t free. It’s a public service.

@sebastianpirela7329

3 жыл бұрын

John Brakes Imagine if their were no taxes 🤔

@MajorMlgNoob

3 жыл бұрын

She's saying they're public goods and not "free stuff" she isn't denying they're tax payer funded

That first five minutes was beautiful.

@CynicalHistorian

4 жыл бұрын

psst, everyone looking at the replies, this man's colluding with me - that postmodern neomarxist!

@strategicgamingwithaacorns2874

4 жыл бұрын

Emperor Tigerstar, could you do a "locations of the political parties on a political compass chart: every year" video?

@eragonlindemann7236

3 жыл бұрын

John Whitesell thatd probably very rough as well due to its natural inclination lib right

@nicholaslee5880

3 жыл бұрын

probably one of my favorite portions of any video he's done. cypher should definitely do more memes on the page. keep the mood light. lolol

@bakist5540

3 жыл бұрын

@@CynicalHistorian careful your ripping on a president everyone likes lmao

When you pay taxes to the govt and get services like healthcare in return, then universal healthcare is not free stuff. It's your money that funds public goods.

@hs5312

4 жыл бұрын

Not everyone one who would receive would pay in. A drug addict wouldn't work and universal health care system would receive it without paying

@upulor744

4 жыл бұрын

HS A drug addict will receive rehabilitation. Which is good for society because it helps them get back on their feet and contribute to the system.

@hs5312

4 жыл бұрын

@@upulor744 there are some who never get back on their feet. Also there are some people who don't work a day in their life.

@jeannebouwman1970

4 жыл бұрын

So because there are some fringe cases of people never being able to get back we should screw them all?

@mattrussell8309

4 жыл бұрын

what the hell are talking about taxes don't pay for anything they go into a incinerator to prevent inflation the USA's economic system runs on modern monetary theory.

God I want some new deal coalition back. Let's get back to a place where we measure our success as a nation by how well we can take care of our people.

To be honest alot of this stuff seems very typical for american politics. Like comparing liberalism and socialism, or calling liberals as socialists. In several European countries and in many other countries as well, liberalism is right wing or centre. Not left wing as it seems to be in America

@dashiellgillingham4579

3 жыл бұрын

@stockart whiteman American politics works along lines of 'more government authority over the streets and economy and less over the individual' (the Democrats) and 'more government authority over how the individual lives and less over the economy and states' (the Republicans). 'Liberal' in our context refers to how much the government is allowed to determine about a person's gender, choice of dress, marriage decisions, and etc, which our conservatives want to control and our liberals want to disregard completely.

@isaach.1135

3 жыл бұрын

@@dashiellgillingham4579 meh?... even this definition gets a little weird when you can consider being both a liberal while holding conservative values. And even stranger when considering the classical form of liberalism where believing the government should have limited control in both the economy and social issues. And it gets even stranger when you consider "progressivism" (whatever the duce that means... the idea of creating law to protect specific groups of people). Like minority quotas and anti-discrimination laws for LGBTQ+ community. These sort of laws are not necessarily liberal per say, but rather, progressive. An argument could be made that by the government making these kinds of laws, it ISN'T liberal as it's government reaching into social issues and making laws there. On the other hand, an argument could be made that these laws ARE liberal as they liberate (not the same term and different definitions but with a similar root) these individuals and thus protects the rights of these groups.

@nathanbruce1992

3 жыл бұрын

@stockart whiteman they both believe in a free market, classless society. Although one tries to use government programs to level out the opportunity disparity between rich and poor (modern liberals) while the other views redistribution as unjust (modern conservatives). This is how we learned it in my american political science class anyway

@MrConstantine02

3 жыл бұрын

What Europeans call "liberals", Americans know as "libertarians". It's a stupid name, I agree, but there it is.

@jeffbenton6183

3 жыл бұрын

@@MrConstantine02 I was looking for this reply; it really is as simple as that. A change in meaning of the word "liberal" goes back to FDR (I think). My understanding is that American historians and political scientists prefer to call FDR's liberalism "social liberalism" and libertarianism "classical liberalism."

Historical memes distorting history. In other news, water is wet.

@UlyseesSGrantGaming

Жыл бұрын

Really?!

You know, when I was growing up in elementary school that quote was in almost every classroom. I would ask what that quote meant, and teachers would respond with "it means to volunteer " or "he was a great man, just embrace the quote". Never heard the full speech till high school.

@jupiterkansas

4 жыл бұрын

well, it does mean to volunteer.

@Synthprayer

4 жыл бұрын

@@jupiterkansas just stating what I grew up with. Some people knew what it meant, others were just don't question just embrace it.

@ashesofempires04

4 жыл бұрын

@@jupiterkansas To volunteer, but not just for the military. Kennedy founded the Peace Corps, and he wanted it to be a representative example of America to the world. His goal was to build soft power through it.

@alfredorotondo

3 жыл бұрын

Lol this quote whas in my history book at the end of the middle school but the teacher jumped that because wasn't so important

That Kennedy quote always bugged me. I do a lot for my country. I pay my taxes. Thats more than enough. They can't even pave the roads.

@rnrailproductions5049

4 жыл бұрын

In Pennsylvania it takes over a fucking year to pave 100 meters of a road....

@omegaman6770

3 жыл бұрын

Pennsylvania roads are the WORST ! ! The State even came up Last in a survey of truckers who drive around the country ! When asked what state had the worst roads these truckers almost all said Pennsylvania !

@daudkhan2926

2 жыл бұрын

I know it’s been a while since this comment was written but I’ll still write this for future readers, doing things for your country means for the people, helping the men and women in your area and beyond that, for that is how one becomes a patriot, working with the people of country to make it better. While he may have been talking about the Vietnam which I believe he was, I don’t think we can just remove the meaning of the quote because of that.

I love how you more or less stay pretty neutral, not let your personal feelings get in the way... Until Wilson is brought up

@CynicalHistorian

3 жыл бұрын

Can't stay neutral with that guy, 😆

@snorecore5447

2 жыл бұрын

WILSOOOON

@aaronTGP_3756

2 жыл бұрын

Wilson doesn't deserve to be praised (except for a FEW minor economic policies). His social and foreign policies were below F tier bad.

@_somerandomguyontheinternet_

Жыл бұрын

*WilSOOOOOOON!!!*

@UlyseesSGrantGaming

Жыл бұрын

Wilson..... *WILSOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOON*

What a radical AOC is, arguing for public roads and a fire department. FREE STUFF.

@BcroG11

4 жыл бұрын

Yeah, as a European I am watching the Democratic primary election in absolute shock. In America, publicly financed healthcare and higher education is apparently communism. Didn't know...

@fremenchips

4 жыл бұрын

Not even close, why not trying reading what she wants in HR109 www.congress.gov/bill/116th-congress/house-resolution/109/text

@BenAHowell754

4 жыл бұрын

Open borders in conjunction with medicare for all, including illegal immigrants, is pretty radical.

@varana

4 жыл бұрын

@@fremenchips Apart from points like "guaranteeing all Americans a job", which is utopian, most of this sounds very ambitious, but in its goals pretty standard for Green politics around the world. It also has jack squat to do with communism, but that was to be expected.

@fremenchips

4 жыл бұрын

​@@varana I would agree with you if it weren't for the fact that half the bill weren't built around trying to justify a job guarantee. Look at the all the times the bill says this will create millions of high paying green jobs, and remember that Obama said the same thing in 2008. Also by pretty standard for Green politics around the world what you really should says is pretty standard for Western Europe as Green politics don't have any real popular power outside of there.

Dude I had no idea about any of this, I can’t wait to take this to the church I go to. Hopefully when they find out their Saint of Manliness Teddy Roosevelt wanted a National Health Service for Americans maybe they can change their minds.

Never seen this meme but he failed to mention how this also debunks the popular alternative history myth that JFK would have kept us from an escalated Vietnam had he not been assassinated.

@hubertblastinoff9001

4 жыл бұрын

If we're taking LBJ's time as president on balance, dare I say it was a good thing JFK got killed?

@achannel6664

4 жыл бұрын

One of the main things he wanted to do was pull out of Vietnam. People right the speeches for him, not himself

@hubertblastinoff9001

4 жыл бұрын

@@achannel6664 Which evidence do you have for JFK wishing to pull out of Vietnam?

@TheJTcreate

4 жыл бұрын

​@@hubertblastinoff9001 He's talking about NSAM 263 in which JFK wanted a withdraw plan to have all troops out by 1965. Robert McNamara did confirm the JFK was seeking a withdraw plan to take place starting in 1963. Kind of weird this kid making these videos, blames Kennedy for Nam. Kennedy was not that dedicated to Nam. His concern was more eastern Europe. What Kennedy sent over to Nam was a small security force, advisers and trainers to help train and boost up South Vietnam. The USA did that for a lot of countries. Robert McNamara confirmed that JFK had brought up withdraw. Keep in mind, Kennedy was assassinated late 1963. The Gulf of Tonkin incident was not until midway through 1964. That is what drew the USA into direct conflict with North Vietnam. We didn't really start sending a strong military force to Vietnam until after that incident. The first major battle of Vietnam LZ XRay didn't take place until 1965. Kennedy was long dead and buried by the time all that took place. As far as JFKs rhetoric, the domino effect theory was on everyone's mind. But JFK had bigger concerns on his plate concerning eastern Europe and the Soviet Union (especially Khrushchev), who were extremely not happy that Western Berlin was in the hands of the west, while sitting in the middle of occupied East Germany. The Red army commanded the largest mechanized military force the likes of which GOD had never seen. If they decided to push, there was nothing NATO could do conventionally to stop them. That's why we were stationing nuclear warheads in Turkey and bomber fleets in Britain. Khrushchev viewed Kennedy as young, brash and inexperience. He really didn't have much respect for Kennedy. So a lot of Kennedy's rhetoric was focused on [what he viewed as] a belligerent acting Soviet Union who just erected the Berlin Wall.

@lamaripiazza5226

3 жыл бұрын

@@hubertblastinoff9001 The White House advisors said Lbj threw away jfk war plan in Vietnam.

I like how the meme simplifies modern progressive policy into “free stuff” instead of what they actually are (comprehensive social safety nets)

@marcusj1167

4 жыл бұрын

Nathan G so giving Medicare to illegal immigrants is comprehensive?

@dashiellgillingham4579

3 жыл бұрын

@@marcusj1167 If you responded this way to all illegal immigrants, we wouldn't have a problem. Noncitizens do not and should not benefit from our social contract unless they agree to it (which really should be that simple). But you only rant about the brown ones, so we have to set up systems to protect them from you, or the only thing they'll know of what this nation can be will come at the butt of a rifle.

@kaydenl6836

3 жыл бұрын

@@marcusj1167 yes. It is very comprehensive. “Comprehensive” doesn’t mean “exclusive”

For everyone saying "hate speech is free speech" - you can't coerce publication. a comments section is a private forum. learn what free speech is before advocating it . Here's a libertarian magazine on precisely how trying to coerce publication is anti-free speech: reason.com/2020/02/26/pragerus-attempt-to-violate-youtubes-1st-amendment-rights-shot-down-by-9th-circuit-court-of-appeals/

@Sk0lzky

4 жыл бұрын

Hate speech is free speech but you can kick unwanted guests from your property - by force if needed

@veastark6045

4 жыл бұрын

@@soarel325 But none of these platforms are public spaces. What you are proposing is forcing these tech giants to host your opinions at their cost. Which you can't do. I could understand worry and protest if it were about infrastructure providers but not about platforms.

@KarlWinterling

4 жыл бұрын

There hasn't been any systematic suppression of conservative opinion on KZread. Conservative and pro-Trump videos are easy to find. The suppression that's happened targets a wide variety of different videos, seemingly not based on their ideological content but more on whether they mention "controversial" topics like war.

@Sk0lzky

4 жыл бұрын

@@KarlWinterling that. And politics in general. Everybody who knows anything about the stuff (people like Sargon of Akkad or Kyle Kulinski) say openly that both them and the opposite side are being heavily suppressed and openly discouraged from even trying. The only difference is that wokeratti tend to abuse the new harassment policy while shitlords are too disorganised or grew fucking roots on their "higher moral ground" to do that properly + rules of conduct favour the progressive lense - which doesn't matter in terms of content suppression or promotion of "authoritative sources" (similar word to authoritarian, don't confu... Actually scrap that, gatekeeping the access to information is authoritarian xD) over independent (and often more ethical and reliable) creators. Tldr we're all fucked long live the CNBC and FOX

@the_exegete

4 жыл бұрын

@@soarel325 What the hell does that have to do with an individual creator curating their own channel? KZread is happy to allow nazi shit. It's this channel run by a free individual disallowing nazi shit that has you mad here.

Kennedy did get us into Vietnam in a major way, no question. However when he spoke about asking what you could do for your country he was talking about things like the Peace Corps, not about joining the army. There was a draft at the time so the military didn’t need volunteers. Take it from someone who was there.

@T0XX1KK

2 жыл бұрын

The military still needed volunteers they That's why they introduced conscription because they weren't getting enough

Breaking news from Fox New: "JFK posthumously joins Republican Party"

@TheShadowguy64

4 жыл бұрын

Why not, there are people unironically calling Obama a Republican lol

@kaguya6900

4 жыл бұрын

Not even Reagan's ideology would be allowed in the present Republican party.

@commonmanhomestead

4 жыл бұрын

@@kaguya6900 could you please explain?

@kaguya6900

4 жыл бұрын

@@commonmanhomestead For example, Reagan was pro- amnesty for illegal immigrants and pro universal health care. Amnesty has been an issue that got moderate Republicans primaried out of their offices over the past two decades for more conservative representatives. www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=128303672

@Authentricity

3 жыл бұрын

@@kaguya6900 I'm not so sure that Reagan would be pleased at today's result of continued unchecked illegal immigration from the southern border. Most all of it occurring after his presidency.

So u get dorks yelling at u in yee-haw on social media then, got it.

@stefanradev7034

4 жыл бұрын

Well, some people just love to protect their right to freeze peach.

The upcoming videos sound great! I’m looking forward to the series.

Haven't seen those memes - until now. Kennedy also said that "If we can't help the many that are poor, then we can't save the few that are rich.". Or something like it. Anyways, in Europe that latter is generally much more known than that "do for your country" part.

Memes are such a simplistic way of expressing an opinion. I generally ignore them.

@goldman77700

4 жыл бұрын

Some memes don't even do that...

@fionafiona1146

4 жыл бұрын

As someone studying Cultural Anthropologie, they are very interesting. Obviously "meme"s as thought/Gedanken(Inhalt) can't transcend the depth their creators thought about them but can be telling about the general mindset they speak of/too/from.

@curiousworld7912

4 жыл бұрын

@@fionafiona1146 That's an excellent point, and I can see why someone in your field would find them interesting. I tend to ignore them however, because one) I generally doubt the quotes or the context of the quote, and two) they do just seem 'lazy' to me.

@fionafiona1146

4 жыл бұрын

@@curiousworld7912 They are convenient for me to track and research so 'lazy' might still apply.

@curiousworld7912

4 жыл бұрын

@@fionafiona1146 :)

Extremist response to context: "That string of words I'm abusing was spoken/written, therefore I'm correct." Doesn't matter your politics, religion, or other ideology: if you ignore context, you've proven you aren't interested in anything save your narrow viewpoint.

@cwg9238

4 жыл бұрын

people who hide behind "muh context" are often just trying to obfuscate or over-complicate an issue that is fundamentally quite simple. your conclusions are always flawed because you didnt "take everything into account." its not an argument. its little more than a fanciful way of saying "you just dont get it" to avoid directly addressing a concern.

@julietfischer5056

4 жыл бұрын

@@cwg9238 - In other words, because the string of words in question was spoken or written, you don't care that it might have been preceded and succeeded by other words that change the meaning you assigned to it.

@cwg9238

4 жыл бұрын

@@julietfischer5056 how much nuance can justify murder? you can spin me a hyper-elaborate tale of a million different factors that led someone to kill someone else, you can make it so god damn complicated that its even impossible to understand. it still doesnt excuse the act.

@citizenfoffie7605

4 жыл бұрын

@@cwg9238 based

@maverick9708

4 жыл бұрын

@@cwg9238 well if they were going to murder you, and you did it in self defense... That context would change how the act was perceived...

Great video. I've watched a few of your videos and dug your insights, but this one made me a subscriber. I look forward to your party switch series.

Its either the meme of "free stuff" or "taxation is theft". You cant win such a great economic argument (even though neoclassicism and Keynesian economics dominate the consensus)

@williamt.sherman9841

4 жыл бұрын

the "free stuff" argument is fine since nothing is free. taxation is theft is more of an anti-statist radical libertarians' position.

@joaopedrosousa5636

4 жыл бұрын

"free at the point of service"

@eazy8579

4 жыл бұрын

You can't win an argument against someone who doesn't understand the point of the argument...

@LittleLion93

4 жыл бұрын

@carlos Rivas Absolutely, but the same apply to corporation.

@austinbusch7264

4 жыл бұрын

@carlos Rivas tfw u equate universal health care programs with absolute state power

I hope you stay off FB to maintain your sanity. The disinformation spread through memes is incredible "well they put words on a picture... must be true"

You are so close to joining bread tube, I can just feel it.

@citizenfoffie7605

4 жыл бұрын

I can't wait.

Ive watched so many of your vods and they are all really good and informative. Keep up the good work and keep up the good fight vs Team YT!

About 3 years late to this discussion, but I wonder: if that many influential presidents from Teddy to FDR to Kennedy all supported universal healthcare, what happened? Was this something Congress never got behind? Did the details take over half a century to iron out? Was the thinking that the time was never quite right?

@CynicalHistorian

11 ай бұрын

Congress was eternally opposed. I can't say why everyone said no, but the vast majority of contemporary explanations hinge on red-baiting

@JackRackam

11 ай бұрын

@@CynicalHistorian Thanks!

The point of the "it's public goods, not free stuff" argument is that it's taxpayer funded. So if you are a taxpayer, you are paying for these services, meaning they aren't free. They're just free at the point of service.

This commercial was really well done and nice to watch. So rare to see it like this on youtube. It sounded like a mini review of the game.

Excellent skit Cypher! Love the hat btw!

A series on the history of political polarization in this country.........I'm in.

Good stuff man

To address your bit about “cultural Marxism” most people use it to refer to stuff like “cancel culture” and “wokeness”. The original connotations of “jewish conspiracy” are lost on them. It’s basically a meme.

@nbewarwe

3 жыл бұрын

I've seen people actually use the term unironically to describe what they call the far left. Blackpigeonspeaks being the most famous of them. And then there's PragerU who just released a video about "identity socialism," which they also made up. So while it is a meme by some, there are still people who legitimately believe it's a real thing.

@davispeterson1876

3 жыл бұрын

@@nbewarwe and don't forget that while they might call it "The Illuminati" or "The Cabal" now, and have toned down or sanitized the more obvious anti-semitism, these modern conspiracy theories are in practice almost identical to Hitler's concept of "Judeo-Bolshevism"

@nbewarwe

3 жыл бұрын

@@davispeterson1876 I get you're point but I prefer to differentiate between the general far right and Qanon. The far right is a blanket term for various extreme political stances while Qanon is specifically a conspiracy group.

@davispeterson1876

3 жыл бұрын

@@nbewarwe they're still acting as a simultaneously smokescreen, dogwhistle, and recruitment pool/tool for the qanon/neo-nazi crowd

Ever realise that these "new dealers" all have three letter abriviations for their names? Coincidene? I. Think. Yes.

@pavelm.gonzalez8608

3 жыл бұрын

:O

As a Capitalist anything some call 'Socialism' I refer to as 'Investment in the Human Capital'

@timvanrijn8239

4 жыл бұрын

a great thing I like Practical christianity to

@bassplayer8815

4 жыл бұрын

@carlos Rivas I myself am a socialist a bit well read on anarchist political and economic theory and have know idea as to what anyone above me is talking about

@BOOOOOOOONE

4 жыл бұрын

@carlos Rivas this is literally gibberish.

@BOOOOOOOONE

4 жыл бұрын

@carlos Rivas there's no better way of demonstrating your political illiteracy than quoting Margaret Thatcher unironically

@justcrypto618

2 жыл бұрын

@@BOOOOOOOONE ah yes anyone I disagree politically with is politically illiterate

Really looking forward to that political polarization series!

Kennedy would be called a commy if he ran today

Looking at full context! Thank you

I never liked JFK's domestic stuff (save for civil rights), but I think it is downright heroic what he did during the Cuban missile crisis.

@abelincon8472

3 жыл бұрын

Didn't the Russians asked him to remove missiles from Turkey?

@aaronTGP_3756

2 жыл бұрын

The Soviet Union asked him to remove missiles from Turkey and Italy. For them, it was only fair that Cuba hosts missiles to counter the threat. And JFK was okay with having a blockade set up (a clear act of aggression on America). So he might've helped ESCALATE the Cuban Missile Crisis.

2:28 Globohomo? Never heard that one before. Is that when you want a hemispheric common market with free trade and open borders, as a way to "get it on" with more dudes?

@williamfrancis5367

4 жыл бұрын

@@soarel325. If it were multinationals would be more popular than they are now.

@JSpradley123

4 жыл бұрын

Sounds hot...

2 minutes in and *bangs table* I am agreeing with you! One of the reasons I stopped being heavy in politics was the meaningless buzz words being thrown around. It is difficult to have long and intelligent conversations when pieces of terminology have been reduced to hollow and meaningless insults. Probably even is a core element to the 'divide' we hear about all the time, for when all one can do is insult the opposition....

@timvanrijn8239

4 жыл бұрын

The word (Racist)

@jayfrank1913

4 жыл бұрын

@@timvanrijn8239 Actually it's racists rearing their ugly heads again. I thought we learned with WWII and Jim Crow (which I'm old enough to remember) that race is merely a social construct, but I keep seeing terms like "race and IQ" and "Asians are better at math" and every other foul racist piece of filth. Say something racist and get called one, boo-hoo. My Biological Anthropology text book says their is no biological basis in race. It's just a millimeter of skin cells that have more or less melanin depending on where in the world your ancestors evolved. This is to protect from UV rays in tropical climates and allow more vitamin D absorption in Northern climates. All humans belong to the same species Homo sapiens and the same sub-species Homo sapiens sapiens. Get over it.

Something to consider is that the vast majority of the people who use cultural marxism are not using it as an association of judaism and such, the idea is to take Marx's methods and outlook to apply them to culture. Now obviously Marx was against this, as he often wrote screeds decrying people using his methods and hs work as that, and there is a whole host of people who follow Marx referring to these people as foe Marxists. A lot of this has to do more with ignorance of Marx's work rather than any real issue with Nazi propaganda. I mean, Nazi's or the literal Alt Right in this case, is going to be a minority regarding any conversation on the internet.

@davispeterson1876

3 жыл бұрын

If it looks like a duck and quacks like a duck . . .

Very interesting stuff, I like your work makes good sense.

I'm guessing this wasn't demonetized due to the ads interrupting what was otherwise an interesting video

Thanks for being a beacon in this wild world in which we live

I’m really excited for that party switch video as I’ve heard a lot of stuff about it like some ppl say that there was no switch because there aren’t many ppl in government who switched from one party to another.

@CynicalHistorian

3 жыл бұрын

just waiting on a collaborator to finish up his half. It's basically ready to go. Bug EmperorTigerstar to get him finished, since I've been done for months

Perhaps Jordan Peterson should watch this video.

@Ma_ksi

4 жыл бұрын

Isn't he in a Russian hospital unconscious?

@gadyariv2456

4 жыл бұрын

my thoughts exactly.

@brotlowskyrgseg1018

4 жыл бұрын

Excuse me, it's Doctor Peterson and he's one of the leading scholars of the "why bother reading shit" school of political philosophy. Show some rescpect, you postmodern neo-marxist.

@christianweibrecht6555

4 жыл бұрын

if you say anything negative about JP his fans will mass down vote and denounce your videos and the overwhelming majority won't even bother to watch your videos before doing so

@napoleonbonaparteempereurd4676

4 жыл бұрын

@@woodchuck003 They actually do. They mass false flag some anti Jordan videos

I miss the days when a President didn't sound like a crazy guy at the pub

@michaellyons4165

4 жыл бұрын

Dude! That's some funny and true shit!

@rnrailproductions5049

4 жыл бұрын

Gazzara5 Ever since Bush senior was president, they sounded fucking crazy. And they were.

The Cynical Historian: "Let's look at that quote in its full context. He says. . ." Ad pops up: "John needs to get rid of his mattress". I busted a gut laughing at that one.

Each video makes me love Cynical Historian/Cipher more and more

I like this. I liked it based on the title. I’m now five minutes in and I’m having such a delightful time.

Don’t you love it when people who shout small government complain about small government.

I've read a lot about Kennedy. The guy really was amazing. Though like a lot of amazing men. He had his share of flaws. Good video. By the way, that drink on the shelf is looking lonely.....

Ask not why the world is of warships. Ask how your warship could be of the world!

Stuff isn't free. Everything is paid from the taxes the government takes from us. I want my taxes to help regular Americans and not corporations.

Could anyone expand on how is AOC right of Kennedy in economic policy? Like, he mentions it and kinda moves past it

@kylethomas9130

4 жыл бұрын

That's in the video, and not just the thumbnail?

@CheapSkateGamer96

4 жыл бұрын

I suppose he means that the proposals AOC makes are less radical than the proposals Kennedy made. Possibly just because we live in a time period where Keynsian Economics are REALLY unpopular and everything that differs from the neoliberal/Austrian model is instantly denounced as a Dengist plot to overthrow the country. But I think calling any economic policy "left" or "right" especially when separated by 50+ years is a bit misleading.

@CynicalHistorian

4 жыл бұрын

good synopsis Sodium. and yes, that is a little misleading if taken as some kind of absolute political position. not my intent, but it would require further explanation like you have to avoid being misleading thanks

@blackearl7891

4 жыл бұрын

@MiniApple3AM JFK openly advocated Medicare for all in his 1960 speech. It's on KZread dude. kzread.info/dash/bejne/Y2h1k9yxkavWdJs.html

@varana

4 жыл бұрын

@@CheapSkateGamer96 "A Dengist plot". Now there's a reference you don't see often.

Wasn't JFK also advocating for things like the Peace Corps, not just military service?

I always assumed "ask not what your country can do for you" was a peace corps thing

"I like doubloons." - Tyler of Knowledge Hub

Get ready for people to deny the party switch. Five bucks says they link prayeru. PragerU

@TrainmasterGT

4 жыл бұрын

carlos Rivas you’re actually describing the difference between liberalism and authoritarianism, which isn’t left or right. You can have a far-left authoritarian state like the Soviet Union and you can have a far-right authoritarian state like Mussolini’s Italy.

@TrainmasterGT

4 жыл бұрын

carlos Rivas wow there is a lot that is wrong to unpack there. First things first, an economic system has literally nothing to do with what rights a nation provides its people. You’re not guaranteed civil liberties simply because you live in a capitalist nation. For example States like Putin’s Russia and Saudi Arabia are both capitalist but have questionable records on human rights and the like. Even my original example of Fascist Italy (A state with decidedly poor human rights policy) was capitalist. It seems weird that you’d bring up things like fossil fuels and iPhones when nothing I said had anything to do with that. It seems like you’re throwing up smoke and mirrors because you otherwise lack a substantive argument.

@TrainmasterGT

4 жыл бұрын

carlos Rivas carlos Rivas China and it’s railways have nothing to do with anything I just said. Care to respond to the examples of any of the nations I mentioned or do you wish to keep propping up straw men and making yourself look more unintelligent?

@emc448

4 жыл бұрын

@@TrainmasterGT Chill you already cooked him 😂

@TrainmasterGT

4 жыл бұрын

Leigh May I believe I was focusing on the second part of his original statement when I made that comment. His insinuation is that authoritarianism is a phenomenon primarily found on the left. This simply isn't true, especially in the 21st century.

A lot of people spreading this stuff know damn well it's complete nonsense but also know by the time it's debunked most people have moved on to the next meme and the the impression gets stuck in the minds of much of the public.

@williamt.sherman9841

4 жыл бұрын

@@woodchuck003 in general Memes are not a good source of information. i'm rather surprised I have to say that.

@williamt.sherman9841

4 жыл бұрын

@@woodchuck003 I did not think you were endorsing a meme. I was pointing out how often people DO take memes seriously. I mean I have literally talked to loads of Teenagers who take internet memes as if they are factual history.

@timvanrijn8239

4 жыл бұрын

@@williamt.sherman9841 there teenagers they do dumb things.

@teddyedward1973

4 жыл бұрын

@@woodchuck003 Whilst it would be foolhardy to claim any argument based on ignorant history is good, it would be churlish to not point out, in the UK at least, one side does tend to have fewer qualms about making the bad faith claims which fuel the ignorance. 'Investigation finds ‘88% of Tory ads misleading compared to 0% for Labour’ metro.co.uk/2019/12/10/investigation-finds-88-tory-ads-misleading-compared-0-labour-11651802/

@leonlawson2196

4 жыл бұрын

People are dumb

NGL, my 10th grade history teacher went to town on that speech. For context, he broke down in tears when Kennedy won because the country was not what he had been taught it was. Needless to say, he was a conservative.

Did anyone else get the ad for "free water" in the middle of this video

@CynicalHistorian

4 жыл бұрын

free water? is that some sort of joke commercial?

I can't guarantee names unless they're dead and in a book. If that isn't every historian ever, I don't know historians.

Great video as always dude! Please being back the reactionary cipher! I want to see him grow as a character!

@CynicalHistorian

4 жыл бұрын

on the discord server, we've basically planned it out. his name is gonna be Crypto

Good one comrade with the COMMON sense

It never occurred to me that people would think of "Ask not what your country can do for you" was about, like, public services, instead of stuff like fighting in wars.

For those who are confused: "Liberal" in the economic context means supporting a market economy. "Classical Liberalism" includes the market economy and support for small-to-moderate government with checks and balances. "Social Democracy" is supporting both the market economy and the welfare state. "Socialism" is opposition to free enterprise and support of a command economy. "Communism" is opposition to private property (which _includes_ personal property despite the sophistry of Marxists) and support for a command economy.

@MRoberts1st

3 жыл бұрын

Kudos to your junior high civics teacher. Need more like him/her.

@strategicgamingwithaacorns2874

3 жыл бұрын

@@MRoberts1st I learned Civics as a Senior in High School. Junior High social studies was world history to 1492 (in 7th grade) and American history from 1492 to 1865 (in 8th Grade).

@StanislavG.

3 жыл бұрын

Communism's core idea is common ownership of the means of production, with the goal of abolition of exploitative labor by the capitalist owners of said means. It has absolutely nothing to do with opposing private property.

@strategicgamingwithaacorns2874

3 жыл бұрын

@@StanislavG. Which is typically attained via implementing a Command Economy. Frankly, I've never seen a Communist advocate for regulations requiring Corporations to give 50% or more of their shares to, and evenly distribute no less than half of their profits between, their employees (which, oddly enough, sounds more like Distributism- the privatized decentralization of the means of production- than actual Communism).

@StanislavG.

3 жыл бұрын

@@strategicgamingwithaacorns2874 I think you meant a "Centralized Planned Economy" and you are absolutely correct, if the state is the owner of the means of production, the decision of what and how much of it to produce is in its responsibility. Regarding the so called "communists" - I'll guess you're talking about American communists? Yeah, these are what we in the USSR called "reformists", whose ideas directly responsible for the economic and then the physical collapse of the Union (starting with the Czechoslovak Socialist Republic, who had the highest standard of living in the Union until these fellows crawled out from under the rock). The distribution of profits by the private sector (as is its existence) is the main reason for these infamous "bread lines" (the so called "deficit") during the Perestroyka. American commies are a joke (not as funny as Liberals calling themselves "The Left" though, but still).

4:43 Nice M*A*S*H reference

Nice work. Solid, thanks.

Excellent. I lived and I remember. Alot of us have forgotten. But hopefully we can continue to move forward to healthcare for all. And make a better America

What an awesome video debunking one of the most out of context memes ever. Also hahahahaha that was one of the most hilarious sketches @ 2:13

"Begone with thy redbait." -Cynical Historian "Begone with 9 red babies" -Cynical Historian with subtitles Just thought I'd share this.

Great job Cypher I am so sick of those memes as well.

can you make an entire video debunking the validity of buzzwords?

Hey Cypher, I was looking for your follow up video in this series “ the party flip”. I’m earnestly seeking the truth about historical facts. I hope the didn’t block that video.

@Hand-in-Shot_Productions

3 жыл бұрын

I am not bothered by video-blocking, but I am interested in looking at _real_ history, and not political propaganda! The party-flip (especially the fate of the segregationists) is a part of American history that has been used as what Cypher once called "a political bludgeon".

@CynicalHistorian

3 жыл бұрын

Haven't gotten finished it yet. The channel I'm collaborating with has been dragging his heels for this long. Seriously! I made this episode hoping to get him moving, cause he's kinda integral to the script

Yeah, I am a french student in English and when we covered Nixon's policies, I was amazed to see how close they were to his democrat predecessors.

@MrMirville

Жыл бұрын

Nixon was a New Deal Liberal and not a more conservative-minded than FDR and Truman had been. He was against hippie values and counter-culture : so were most left-wing platforms in the world, who saw in counter-culture a retrograde movement.

The evil laugh is coming along well.

I love the Diagonies of Sinope looking for one good person header for these videos!

It's not "free stuff" in the sense of a free ride that the Conservatives are trying to frame it as. The Doctors and nurses are still getting paid, drugs and equipment is bought and paid for, etc. It's just instead of you paying for medical services, we collectively as a community would pay for it. Through taxes. The same way that the police, or armed forces aren't free. But they provide a public service with out directly billing the receiptients.

@robertstan298

4 жыл бұрын

I always find it baffling how the US government (but not just it) can find it so easy to invest money into forever wars and corporate bailouts (just to name a few)... but somehow, it is unfathomable that they'd invest money in the one thing that truly matter for a nation... it's citizens. But alas, the cruelty of the ruling class knows no bounds. And decades upon decades of brainwashing and polarizing the masses has done almost irreparable harm to the consciousness of the people. To the point where people actively vote and campaign (like these idiotic memes) against their own interests.

I do agree that Kennedy was a New Dealer, and that the meme misrepresents Kennedy's policies. That being said, I am pretty sure even FDR would have found AOCs Green New Deal appalling and unworkable.

@valdar1978

4 жыл бұрын

@@danieltarczynski6559, I imagine he would like the idea of green infrastructure, but FDR was also pragmatic, and would have understood that AOC's Green New Deal was inherently flawed, since it would destroy the energy infrastructure without having something in place to replace it.

One very important thing we can do for our country is to institute single payer health care so people can get health care for free. Of course, that means a million people in the insurance industry will have to find new jobs, but that's the trade off.

Hi Cypher! Really find your channel inspiring. I particularly enjoy your real life historical analysis. However, if you get back into historical film analysis, I wonder, as the son of a Frenchman who loved Papillon as one of his favourite films ( I grew up watching it, and plagiarised it for creative writing when I was young and rightfully got a fail mark ) would you make an episode on it? I've always wanted to know a) how realistic it is regarding conditions in the prison colony in French Guyana, and b) how true it is to the story of the real man known as Papillon. If you ever see your way clear to cover it, I'd be fascinated. Thanks for all your hard work and dedication to detail about history that is often left out. Really appreciated.

@CynicalHistorian

4 жыл бұрын

I've heard of the film before, but I've never seen it. It's kinda interesting in that the author's accuracy is in serious doubt, but also just that it's about a part of the world we don't see in media very much. But yeah, dunno if I'll have time in the near future

@zipfed2389

4 жыл бұрын

@@CynicalHistorian exactly that! Written by the man himself, so have no idea. Managed to find my dad's copy of the book last year, but it's in French, and I'm very rusty. May give it a go, if I find the time and wherewithal! Cracking story, mind! A thrilling watch - plus Steve McQueen and Dustin Hoffman to boot! Just as it's interesting for you to cover American Imperialism and its callous faults, I'm fascinated to learn more about my English and French heritage, for good and bad (I'm also Irish, so I'm more studied in the English/Irish colonialism). Work doesn't allow me a lot of free time for deep diving, sadly. Would like to work on my personal ancestry, but we shall see...

@zipfed2389

4 жыл бұрын

To specify, I'm only partly interested in the 'legend' of Papillon and more interested in the vicious native prison conditions and which crimes would lead to France 'condemning' a citizen to French Guyana.

People think free healthcare is a radical idea in american But in most countries it's the norm

@marcaldovino264

4 жыл бұрын

So, thats like saying since slavery was the norm 200 years ago, it was good. Anyway, Universal healthcare is telling people to pay for your healthcare, thats not right.

The best way to respond to people that post politically ignorant memes is to make your own, that are actually correct, here's an example Republicans then: Gun Control, Civil Rights, Environmental Protections, Republicans now: Freedom means I can do whatever I want!

When I was a kid the “Ask what you can do for your country” quote was my favorite quote from any POTUS not even knowing what it meant 😂

I was interested in your comment about Eisenhower proposing something that was basically Obamacare. Mind giving me a source so I could go deeper into that?

@CynicalHistorian

4 жыл бұрын

www.forbes.com/sites/peterubel/2014/01/21/a-surprising-early-supporter-of-obamacare-eisenhower/#570ae2e05891 www.ontheissues.org/Celeb/Dwight_Eisenhower_Health_Care.htm

@lukejohns5900

4 жыл бұрын

The Cynical Historian thanks! Didn’t expect a popular youtuber to read their comments

Is the stuff still free if you pay for it through taxes? No one ever said having a military to defend the country would come cheap- or does this only apply to healthcare?

everyone should just post this video in the comment section of that meme

"ask what you can do for your country" he's talking about TAXES.

Please explain how if one pays taxes any government service is free.

People called you kek? Most of the time that means lol, and sometimes it's used to refer to the Egyptian God.

@timvanrijn8239

4 жыл бұрын

Kek is just world of warcraft speak for LOL

@LukeSky2207

4 жыл бұрын

Maybe he's too lazy to understand what those people are saying.

@JamesKlemm87

4 жыл бұрын

Their is a group called Kekistan that was at Charlottesville. It is mostly a WoW thing, but the alt right co opted it because some gamers proved to be ripe for recruitment.

@kaiserwilhelmii674

4 жыл бұрын

@@JamesKlemm87 Kekistan was a dumb meme for autists. It was based around a fake nation that worshipped Kek, (an Egyptian chaos God) and Meme magic. No one took it seriously and it died out in months. Especially since the Sargon of Akkad tried to be a part of it.

So bigotry against bigotry, why not

@dark_fire_ice

4 жыл бұрын

@Cure4Living justify please, and be consistent please

@rigel2112

4 жыл бұрын

@Cure4Living So is the other kind if you are on the right side. Same with yours.

Never saw the the meme but enjoyed this anyways. Growing up in the 60's Pres Kennedy's phrase was rammed down our throats as what we can do for the country. As it still is today. Thanks for the clarification. Also enjoyed your Woodrow Wilson episode. I checked what the History Channel has on him. They have nothing but accolades for him. Same crap that we learned in public school. Explains alot what is going on now!