My initial thoughts on this debate: • Thank you to both debaters & the organisers, especially MDI for helping set this up and for following it through after several years • Thanks to Ust. Abdullah al Andalusi for organising this Neutral Views: • Both speakers should have had PowerPoint presentations, I spent a lot of time looking up Bible references & interlinear texts to properly follow their arguments • There was a lot of jumping around in the organization of points of argumentation which unnecessarily convoluted some essential claims Contra Br. Zakir: • A neater & more organized opening statement would have helped elucidate his claims. Sometimes it was not clear if he was introducing a new point or qualifying a previously mentioned premise • The brother didn't have to respond to all of Dr. Brown's claims, it took up time that could have been used on more developed rebuttals • Br. Zakir needed to underline the fact that the reason he started off with mention of the New Testament was because it was a means of comparison for exegetical principles used by Christians in finding Christ Jesus in the Old Testament Contra Dr. Brown: • I came away with the impression that he did not want to examine his exegetical principles for the sake of consistency & chose to dismiss or mock points that had serious & overwhelming merit • The "just Google it" answers don't work in a setting like this, it almost seemed as if he lacked motivation to defend his claims & counter-claims • Rarely did Dr. Brown acknowledge that Br. Zakir presented specific claims, with specific exegetical principles, that cumulatively are more coherent & cogent than the New Testament's use of the Old Testament where Christians try to find allusions of Christ Jesus Conclusion: • Some online Christian communities that were interested in this debate allowed a bootleg copy of a professionally organized & moderated debate, to be misused, essentially stealing money from the organisation behind the event. That was gross indecency & ethically disgraceful behavior • Dr. Brown more or less refused to engage deeply with most of Br. Zakir's points by dismissing or denying them. A dismissal or denial of a claim is not a refutation, nor a rebuttal, but a mere response. It seems like some of the pro-Dr. Brown crowd either don't want to acknowledge this or severely misunderstand how arguments work • Br. Zakir's opening statement presented a specific cumulative case using accepted exegetical principles that clearly demonstrated that the Prophet ﷺ is mentioned in some way in the Bible • Yes, the Bible can be corrupt but still have nuggets of truth. In the same way that the demon in the New Testament testified the truth about Christ Jesus (as Christians believe), that one time testimony is the exception to the rule & does not require us to believe everything that demon said Yours respectfully, Ust. Ijaz the Trini.

@a7mad9999999

Жыл бұрын

IJAZ jazak allah khayran

@Ttcopp12rt

Жыл бұрын

Well said brother... Ameen

@FazsterHQ

Жыл бұрын

@@Ttcopp12rt Luke you’re a clown

@zahidfareed3218

Жыл бұрын

well said brother

@faillord3960

Жыл бұрын

@@Ttcopp12rt why are you saying well said brother when you critique him and mocked him in the past

Michael brown didn't respond to Zakir's arguments . He just dismissed those as baseless . That's not how refutation works

@reneandjohn

8 ай бұрын

It seems you did not watch the debate. Just a few examples. Concerning מַחֲּמַדִּ֑ים‬, ma-ḥă-mad-dim in Songs of Solomon 5:16 did dr Brown pronounce as well. Dr Brown explained the Hebrew word, the text and the context. It has nothing to do with a name, let alone the name of ‘Muhammad’. The context is a love song, a beautiful young girl (Shulammite maiden) who is in love with a young shepherd bo. So it has nothing to do with ‘Muhammad’. Zakir had no answer for that, he was schooled by dr Brown in a lesson classic Hebrew. Concerning the Paraclete in John 14-16 Zakir was set checkmate by Dr. Brown. Dr. Brown referred to John 14:16 in which Jesus Christ said that the Paraclete was with the disciples, and therefore not Muhammad who should come 500 years earlier. Zakir had no answer for that. Dr. Brown referred again to John 14:16 in which Jesus Christ also said that Paraclete will be in the disciples, and therefore the Paraclete is not Muhammad. Zakir had no answer for that. About Deuteronomy 18, could Zakir not show one example in which the term מִקֶּ֥רֶב אֲחֵיהֶ֖ם, miq-qe-reḇ ’ă-ḥê-hem ‘from their brothers' is mentioned with another group of people than own countrymen. Furthermore, Dr. Brown referred to Deuteronomy 17, which states very clear that a foreigner is not a brother of the Israelites. Zakir had no answer for that. "you are to appoint over yourselves the king whom the Lord your God shall choose. Appoint a king from among your brothers; you are not to set over yourselves a foreigner who is not one of your brothers." Deuteronomy 17:15. So the prophet in Deuteronomy 18 must be an Israelite, no foreigner.

@Mark-bl5ro

8 ай бұрын

Actually he responded to every single claim made by Zakir. Watch the debate again.

@_anti_kuffar_6176

7 ай бұрын

@@Mark-bl5ro I watch the whole debate carefully and michael brown was just a show man and zakir's point still stand.

@Mark-bl5ro

7 ай бұрын

@@_anti_kuffar_6176 Really? So I guess Muhammad is Ezekiel's wife then if Zakir's points are valid!

@_anti_kuffar_6176

7 ай бұрын

@@Mark-bl5ro Bro when you wrote that comment you had thought your self to be smart but sorry to say that you are not . It was the most strawman argument from Dr Michael Brown . he did'nt even understand the argument or may be he did'nt want to because of his arrogance . muslim don't say prophet's name was literally mentioned .the word is "forshadowed'. Muslims don't use song of solomon 5 just for " Mahmadim" or " muhammadim" .There are his charecters , physical description and then his name was Alluded which Adds extra to it . And this word "muhammadim" in this exact form is not mentioned anywhere in the Bible . We don't do that for Prophet Muhammad (peace and blessings be upon him) only. we also use that for prophet 'isa ibn Maryam (peace and blessings be upon him) too . Like psalms 91 is a prophecy about Isa bin Maryam where God mentions how he will be saved and in the end his nmane is Also forshadowed as " My salvation" in hebrew "Yeshuah".

We shall see soon enough. It is clear Paul met Sataan on the road to Damascus and changed the teachings of Jesus 😂

@JMJ-rb2ze

Жыл бұрын

You cant fight God and Win! No one change God’s words!

@casablancamarrakech

Жыл бұрын

@@JMJ-rb2ze Yes you are right. The Romans tried to crucify God's messiah and failed. Then they made up a FALSE PAGAN RELIGION to save themselves. Read the Old Testament. God's messiah cannot die. He will be untouched. Jesus Christ was saved by God. Jesus is a Muslim.

@JMJ-rb2ze

Жыл бұрын

@@casablancamarrakech who told you this? Your muttah master Muhammad?😂 Denying Christs crucifixion and resurrection you choose to live in your sins! No salvation, no anointing, no forgiveness, no redemption for you!

@jesusisfalsegodfalsesaviou9114

Жыл бұрын

@@JMJ-rb2ze*Your bible says Jesus did not die for anyone’s sins and he was not crucified* *Your bible says, God saved Jesus from accursed death after Jesus made fervent cries and petitions to God to SAVE his life from accursed death* Hebrews 5:7 *God heard Jesus prayers and saved Jesus from accursed death* *_THIS PROVES JESUS DID NOT DIE & HE WAS NOT CRUCIFIED_*

@JMJ-rb2ze

Жыл бұрын

@@jesusisfalsegodfalsesaviou9114 lol 😂

This is not a debate it’s a schooling by Dr. Brown

@Randomhandlename

Жыл бұрын

It was the other way around Dr brown challenges zakir asking where is it mentioned Ishmael being brethren of Israel zakir answers his challenge quoting genesis 16:12 Deuteronomy 24 dr brown never answered if the edomites are classed as the brothers if he says yes then so are Ishmaelites and if he says no then that’s speaking about brothers within the nation not brothers of the nation. Dr brown was challenged to answer why did John change the day Jesus died to make him look like the Passover lamb, dr brown remained silent Dr brown was challenged to answer why did Mathew have to make a story about herad, dr brown remained silent

@Randomhandlename

Жыл бұрын

Dr brown was challenged to answer why did Mathew have to make a story about herad, dr brown remained silent Dr brown never answered about Ishmaelites taking the land from Nile to euphoraties with the coming of Muhammad Dr brown was exposed in the end when a clip of a verse being recited in Hebrew by Jews reciting as mahamadim which dr initially said is not a correct pronunciation Dr brown was refuted about Jews praying to jarusilum, Muslim uses to pray that direction then went back to praying to ancient house Kaaba, dr brown remained silent Dr brown said Zakir added to the Bible in Deuteronomy 18 but didn’t say where or how then remained silent Dr brown was refuted asking if Muhammad had a primary mission to Israel? Prophet Muhammad came to renew the covenant with Israel and dr brown mentioned the servant would go to China, well guess what the Muslims in the 7th century reached from the border of China to border of France and wherever the servant’s mission goes, the primary people who should come into the knowledge of God are the ishmaelites. So who brought the ismaelites out from idol worship and paganism? It was the Muslims and dr brown admits this in his book then dr brown remains silent Dr brown contradicted himself when he mentioned Deuteronomy 24 and mixed brothers of the nation and brothers within the nation

@Randomhandlename

Жыл бұрын

Dr brown contradicted himself when he mentioned Deuteronomy 24 and mixed brothers of the nation and brothers within the nation Dr brown was refuted about the words “from within you” none of the older texts say what the addition later on says, as the scholars mention it was an addition. Dr brown was never able to answer concerning older texts (Part 1)..Dr brown initially never answered the rebuttal about servant coming after the second temple.. (part 2) the interpretation that dr brown gave was being twisted, hagai doesn’t talk about first or second temple Hagai speaks about previous and latter glories, that’s the twisting of the Hebrew. The suptoegent confirms this and hagai 2:3 confirms this. So this person who will bring glory to the temple or could be any time in the future and it’s not limited to the second temple. (Zakir also refuted dr brown in the end about there being more temples and hagai destroying and rebuilding the temple and temple also being the land as other scriptures mention) Dr brown was refuted about “prophet like me” while many verses indicate he will be a lawgiver. Furthermore prophet Muhammad did many miracles and when he spoke to God even though moses spoke numerous times, Muhammad spoke to God on a higher level when he descended to the highest level and directly, so it’s quality not quantity… part 2 dr brown was challenged to show which servant of Isiah 42 brought the Ishmaelites out of idol worship… part 2 dr brown claims Jesus is a law giver like moses because of the sermon of the mount, the sermon of the mount is not a new law and the followers of Jesus were still following the law of Moses and even James challenged Paul to see if he’s still following the law of Moses Dr brown made a claim Jesus performed miracles greater than moses and was challenged to show and give proof.. part 2 dr brown claimed Jesus gave life and raised himself from the dead but moses even gave life to a stick which doesn’t even have heart or brain or other functioning organs which keeps you alive and as afar dr brown mentioning Jesus reading himself up from the dead but according to who? Who saw the physical Jesus being raised up? Paul mentions vision and the context also, the people with Paul didn’t see physical Jesus some saw something but didn’t hear anything some heard something but didn’t see anything

@Randomhandlename

Жыл бұрын

Dr brown was refuted about Deuteronomy 34:10 even in the mazaretic text it’s a prophetic past tense and and rabbis academics say it rules out future prophets from Israel Dr brown was refuted with regards jesus coming.. Acts 3:22 Peter applies Deuteronomy to moses, actually on a plain reading Peter says Jesus is in heaven now and must await there until all things are restored then he quoted Deuteronomy ”for verily moses said” then he quotes Deuteronomy 18, so how is jesus coming back as moses in his full glory as so called “god”? Dr brown says the servant of the Lord can’t be Muhammad because in Isiah 53 the servant dies, actually from Isiah 40 to 53 it’s speaking about two servants, it’s speaking about the suffering servant which is Israel and it’s speaking about a deliverer moreover even the Jewish scholars don’t even take these verses as speaking of the same person Dr brown says hagarhim proves nothing. according to him, the name of prophet Muhammad proves nothing but for yeshua dr brown has to speak about somebody else and say that’s a type for Jesus because he can’t find a direct prophecy As far as Song of Songs goes dr brown tries to play it down but the Jews had a consensus, the Christians had a consensus that this is speaking about the allegorical meaning, the history of Israel, the messiah. All dr brown is doing is mocking all these scholars, why? Because he knows the minute he admits it’s a prophecy, the Muslims will have a field day. (Part 1) …Dr brown misrepresented Zakir when he mentioned the helper was the Holy Spirit, zakir never mentioned the Holy Spirit and all those who laughed, the jokes on them… (part 2) dr brown said it’s Jesus who said it’s the Holy Spirit, based on what? There’s manuscripts that don’t say the Holy Spirit. Christian history shows it was not seen as the Holy Spirit (even Paul was mentioned as the helper) dr brown the remained silent Dr brown says the Quran doesn’t mention yahweh, the pronoun in surah Ikhlas “HUWA” is a shortened form of yahweh then dr brown is challenged to show where Jesus in the Greek New Testament used the word yahweh, Dr brown couldn’t show niether in Greek or the language Jesus spoke and furthermore zakir gave more proof the God of Israel was called “el” before being called yahweh and there’s also biblical scholarship showing even yahweh is connected to canonite god and exodus 6:3 says that Abraham and patriarch didn’t know the name yahweh

@rda6481

Жыл бұрын

@@Randomhandlename you guys are literally delusional! You can come up with better arguments than saying Muhammad is mentioned in the Bible. Come on now! I don’t think you guys know how mind bogglingly stupid this argument is!

Great dr Brown, this is not a debate, but schooling by dr Brown

@Randomhandlename

Жыл бұрын

You ain’t schooling no one when you don’t answer questions or address things. We don’t know where and who the Bible came from period

@servicemabunda3781

Жыл бұрын

@@Randomhandlename 😊 if u don't know where the Bible came from it doesn't mean everyone doesn't. By the way why are Muslims looking for Muhammad in the Bible? We can officially call Muhammad a rat not a prophet since he contradicted history and the Bible, fed with poison and died, simple!

@theknighttemplar8177

Жыл бұрын

​@@Randomhandlename you are crying everywhere 😆

@Randomhandlename

Жыл бұрын

@@theknighttemplar8177 your dr brown got schooled, it’s you crying and coping

@dedelinda5272

Жыл бұрын

@@Randomhandlename you're funny, your brain doesn't work properly.

Amazing job Dr Brown. Thank you for showing everyone the truth. Brilliant performance. Masterclass

@Randomhandlename

Жыл бұрын

What truth? Dr brown got schooled Dr brown challenges zakir asking where is it mentioned Ishmael being brethren of Israel zakir answers his challenge quoting genesis 16:12 Deuteronomy 24 dr brown never answered if the edomites are classed as the brothers if he says yes then so are Ishmaelites and if he says no then that’s speaking about brothers within the nation not brothers of the nation. Dr brown was challenged to answer why did John change the day Jesus died to make him look like the Passover lamb, dr brown remained silent Dr brown was challenged to answer why did Mathew have to make a story about herad, dr brown remained silent

@Randomhandlename

Жыл бұрын

Dr brown was challenged to answer why did Mathew have to make a story about herad, dr brown remained silent Dr brown never answered about Ishmaelites taking the land from Nile to euphoraties with the coming of Muhammad Dr brown was exposed in the end when a clip of a verse being recited in Hebrew by Jews reciting as mahamadim which dr initially said is not a correct pronunciation Dr brown was refuted about Jews praying to jarusilum, Muslim uses to pray that direction then went back to praying to ancient house Kaaba, dr brown remained silent Dr brown said Zakir added to the Bible in Deuteronomy 18 but didn’t say where or how then remained silent Dr brown was refuted asking if Muhammad had a primary mission to Israel? Prophet Muhammad came to renew the covenant with Israel and dr brown mentioned the servant would go to China, well guess what the Muslims in the 7th century reached from the border of China to border of France and wherever the servant’s mission goes, the primary people who should come into the knowledge of God are the ishmaelites. So who brought the ismaelites out from idol worship and paganism? It was the Muslims and dr brown admits this in his book then dr brown remains silent Dr brown contradicted himself when he mentioned Deuteronomy 24 and mixed brothers of the nation and brothers within the nation

@Randomhandlename

Жыл бұрын

Dr brown contradicted himself when he mentioned Deuteronomy 24 and mixed brothers of the nation and brothers within the nation Dr brown was refuted about the words “from within you” none of the older texts say what the addition later on says, as the scholars mention it was an addition. Dr brown was never able to answer concerning older texts (Part 1)..Dr brown initially never answered the rebuttal about servant coming after the second temple.. (part 2) the interpretation that dr brown gave was being twisted, hagai doesn’t talk about first or second temple Hagai speaks about previous and latter glories, that’s the twisting of the Hebrew. The suptoegent confirms this and hagai 2:3 confirms this. So this person who will bring glory to the temple or could be any time in the future and it’s not limited to the second temple. (Zakir also refuted dr brown in the end about there being more temples and hagai destroying and rebuilding the temple and temple also being the land as other scriptures mention) Dr brown was refuted about “prophet like me” while many verses indicate he will be a lawgiver. Furthermore prophet Muhammad did many miracles and when he spoke to God even though moses spoke numerous times, Muhammad spoke to God on a higher level when he descended to the highest level and directly, so it’s quality not quantity… part 2 dr brown was challenged to show which servant of Isiah 42 brought the Ishmaelites out of idol worship… part 2 dr brown claims Jesus is a law giver like moses because of the sermon of the mount, the sermon of the mount is not a new law and the followers of Jesus were still following the law of Moses and even James challenged Paul to see if he’s still following the law of Moses Dr brown made a claim Jesus performed miracles greater than moses and was challenged to show and give proof.. part 2 dr brown claimed Jesus gave life and raised himself from the dead but moses even gave life to a stick which doesn’t even have heart or brain or other functioning organs which keeps you alive and as afar dr brown mentioning Jesus reading himself up from the dead but according to who? Who saw the physical Jesus being raised up? Paul mentions vision and the context also, the people with Paul didn’t see physical Jesus some saw something but didn’t hear anything some heard something but didn’t see anything

@Randomhandlename

Жыл бұрын

3 Dr brown was refuted about Deuteronomy 34:10 even in the mazaretic text it’s a prophetic past tense and and rabbis academics say it rules out future prophets from Israel Dr brown was refuted with regards jesus coming.. Acts 3:22 Peter applies Deuteronomy to moses, actually on a plain reading Peter says Jesus is in heaven now and must await there until all things are restored then he quoted Deuteronomy ”for verily moses said” then he quotes Deuteronomy 18, so how is jesus coming back as moses in his full glory as so called “god”? Dr brown says the servant of the Lord can’t be Muhammad because in Isiah 53 the servant dies, actually from Isiah 40 to 53 it’s speaking about two servants, it’s speaking about the suffering servant which is Israel and it’s speaking about a deliverer moreover even the Jewish scholars don’t even take these verses as speaking of the same person Dr brown says hagarhim proves nothing. according to him, the name of prophet Muhammad proves nothing but for yeshua dr brown has to speak about somebody else and say that’s a type for Jesus because he can’t find a direct prophecy As far as Song of Songs goes dr brown tries to play it down but the Jews had a consensus, the Christians had a consensus that this is speaking about the allegorical meaning, the history of Israel, the messiah. All dr brown is doing is mocking all these scholars, why? Because he knows the minute he admits it’s a prophecy, the Muslims will have a field day. (Part 1) …Dr brown misrepresented Zakir when he mentioned the helper was the Holy Spirit, zakir never mentioned the Holy Spirit and all those who laughed, the jokes on them… (part 2) dr brown said it’s Jesus who said it’s the Holy Spirit, based on what? There’s manuscripts that don’t say the Holy Spirit. Christian history shows it was not seen as the Holy Spirit (even Paul was mentioned as the helper) dr brown the remained silent Dr brown says the Quran doesn’t mention yahweh, the pronoun in surah Ikhlas “HUWA” is a shortened form of yahweh then dr brown is challenged to show where Jesus in the Greek New Testament used the word yahweh, Dr brown couldn’t show niether in Greek or the language Jesus spoke and furthermore zakir gave more proof the God of Israel was called “el” before being called yahweh and there’s also biblical scholarship showing even yahweh is connected to canonite god and exodus 6:3 says that Abraham and patriarch didn’t know the name yahweh

@imwatchingyousleep4636

Жыл бұрын

Praise God for the lives of Christian apologetics

Mashallah excellent stuff from MDI as usual

@Ttcopp12rt

Жыл бұрын

Alhamdulilah

@faillord3960

Жыл бұрын

@@Ttcopp12rt hypocrite 😐with no shame that what you are like your deciver paul who orders you Christians to be jew to jews gentile to the gentiles

@axis2312

Жыл бұрын

@@Ttcopp12rt imitation (or in your case impersonation) is the best form of flattery

@Undisputed_King

Жыл бұрын

No he lost the debate and embarrassed himself. We Muslims need to stop clout seeking and pulling stuff out of thin air which is not there. Islaam is perfect as it is. Don't change it. Bid'ah is Haraam.

@youtubeaccount3230

Жыл бұрын

@@Undisputed_King if u actually learn, the true teaching of Jesus in the bible is that the son of man is to come and establish the kingdom of God on earth that is why he was sent this the gospel writers took from an earlier source which they refer to as the Q gospel

The poor Christian is trying to base facts using New Testament which Christian scholars admit that it’s full of contradictions and errors

@casablancamarrakech

Жыл бұрын

Yes you are right. The Romans tried to crucify God's messiah and failed. Then they made up a FALSE PAGAN RELIGION to save themselves. Read the Old Testament. God's messiah cannot die. He will be untouched. Jesus Christ was saved by God. Jesus is a Muslim.

@Mark-bl5ro

7 ай бұрын

Well if our book is full of contradictions and errors, then why are you so desperate to find your prophet in it? The only contradiction here is in the Islamic belief!

@Mark-bl5ro

7 ай бұрын

@@casablancamarrakech Hesus never said He's a Muslim. Don't be a liar like Muhammad.

@panaderiatecnica5922

3 ай бұрын

what christians Christian scholars ? the liberal?? ahahahahahaha islam dies without lies!! let talks with liberal muslim scholar Muhammad Tahir-ul-Qadri, Javed Ghamidi.

@valentino3228

3 ай бұрын

​@@casablancamarrakech this debate was about Muha mmad's appearance in the bib le and you failed miser ably 😅😅 taking verses out of context and bringin up embarra sing conclusions.

I deeply respect Dr. michael Brown, he did great in this debate

@conociendoelislam85

Жыл бұрын

Yes! He did it!!

@abdullahassaffah

Жыл бұрын

​@@conociendoelislam85 clearly lost

@israfilangel8062

Жыл бұрын

When it comes to "showmanship" and eloquence maybe But not the argumentation, he lost the debate though.

@ReenaZ6569

Жыл бұрын

Yes, he did it with respect.. Great job Mr. Brown

@hereweare9096

Жыл бұрын

@@israfilangel8062 No he did not. It’s only Islam that believes Mohammad is in the Bible. Which I find to be an odd argument. The Quran itself is not enough proof for Mohammad?? It cannot be relied upon alone? It shows the insufficiency of The Quran to state that more is required. The Holy Bible corroborates itself. It’s a book of amazing depth and holy scripture. We see Jesus own words : In fact, if you believed Moses, you would believe me, for he wrote about me. John 5:46 Deuteronomy 18:15 15 Jehovah your God will raise up for you from among your brothers a prophet like me. You must listen to him. Luke 24:44 44 He then said to them: “These are my words that I spoke to you while I was yet with you, that all the things written about me in the Law of Moses and in the Prophets and Psalms must be fulfilled.” John 1:45 45 Philip found Na·thanʹa·el and said to him: “We have found the one of whom Moses, in the Law, and the Prophets wrote: Jesus, the son of Joseph, from Nazʹa·reth.”

This debate was great, both had their points to say. However, the debate subject was answered well by Dr Brown. Looking forward to more like this in the future. Thanks for posting. God bless you all.

@Randomhandlename

Жыл бұрын

It was the other way around Dr brown challenges zakir asking where is it mentioned Ishmael being brethren of Israel zakir answers his challenge quoting genesis 16:12 Deuteronomy 24 dr brown never answered if the edomites are classed as the brothers if he says yes then so are Ishmaelites and if he says no then that’s speaking about brothers within the nation not brothers of the nation. Dr brown was challenged to answer why did John change the day Jesus died to make him look like the Passover lamb, dr brown remained silent Dr brown was challenged to answer why did Mathew have to make a story about herad, dr brown remained silent

@Randomhandlename

Жыл бұрын

Dr brown was challenged to answer why did Mathew have to make a story about herad, dr brown remained silent Dr brown never answered about Ishmaelites taking the land from Nile to euphoraties with the coming of Muhammad Dr brown was exposed in the end when a clip of a verse being recited in Hebrew by Jews reciting as mahamadim which dr initially said is not a correct pronunciation Dr brown was refuted about Jews praying to jarusilum, Muslim uses to pray that direction then went back to praying to ancient house Kaaba, dr brown remained silent Dr brown said Zakir added to the Bible in Deuteronomy 18 but didn’t say where or how then remained silent Dr brown was refuted asking if Muhammad had a primary mission to Israel? Prophet Muhammad came to renew the covenant with Israel and dr brown mentioned the servant would go to China, well guess what the Muslims in the 7th century reached from the border of China to border of France and wherever the servant’s mission goes, the primary people who should come into the knowledge of God are the ishmaelites. So who brought the ismaelites out from idol worship and paganism? It was the Muslims and dr brown admits this in his book then dr brown remains silent Dr brown contradicted himself when he mentioned Deuteronomy 24 and mixed brothers of the nation and brothers within the nation

@Randomhandlename

Жыл бұрын

Dr brown contradicted himself when he mentioned Deuteronomy 24 and mixed brothers of the nation and brothers within the nation Dr brown was refuted about the words “from within you” none of the older texts say what the addition later on says, as the scholars mention it was an addition. Dr brown was never able to answer concerning older texts (Part 1)..Dr brown initially never answered the rebuttal about servant coming after the second temple.. (part 2) the interpretation that dr brown gave was being twisted, hagai doesn’t talk about first or second temple Hagai speaks about previous and latter glories, that’s the twisting of the Hebrew. The suptoegent confirms this and hagai 2:3 confirms this. So this person who will bring glory to the temple or could be any time in the future and it’s not limited to the second temple. (Zakir also refuted dr brown in the end about there being more temples and hagai destroying and rebuilding the temple and temple also being the land as other scriptures mention) Dr brown was refuted about “prophet like me” while many verses indicate he will be a lawgiver. Furthermore prophet Muhammad did many miracles and when he spoke to God even though moses spoke numerous times, Muhammad spoke to God on a higher level when he descended to the highest level and directly, so it’s quality not quantity… part 2 dr brown was challenged to show which servant of Isiah 42 brought the Ishmaelites out of idol worship… part 2 dr brown claims Jesus is a law giver like moses because of the sermon of the mount, the sermon of the mount is not a new law and the followers of Jesus were still following the law of Moses and even James challenged Paul to see if he’s still following the law of Moses Dr brown made a claim Jesus performed miracles greater than moses and was challenged to show and give proof.. part 2 dr brown claimed Jesus gave life and raised himself from the dead but moses even gave life to a stick which doesn’t even have heart or brain or other functioning organs which keeps you alive and as afar dr brown mentioning Jesus reading himself up from the dead but according to who? Who saw the physical Jesus being raised up? Paul mentions vision and the context also, the people with Paul didn’t see physical Jesus some saw something but didn’t hear anything some heard something but didn’t see anything

@Randomhandlename

Жыл бұрын

Dr brown was refuted about Deuteronomy 34:10 even in the mazaretic text it’s a prophetic past tense and and rabbis academics say it rules out future prophets from Israel Dr brown was refuted with regards jesus coming.. Acts 3:22 Peter applies Deuteronomy to moses, actually on a plain reading Peter says Jesus is in heaven now and must await there until all things are restored then he quoted Deuteronomy ”for verily moses said” then he quotes Deuteronomy 18, so how is jesus coming back as moses in his full glory as so called “god”? Dr brown says the servant of the Lord can’t be Muhammad because in Isiah 53 the servant dies, actually from Isiah 40 to 53 it’s speaking about two servants, it’s speaking about the suffering servant which is Israel and it’s speaking about a deliverer moreover even the Jewish scholars don’t even take these verses as speaking of the same person Dr brown says hagarhim proves nothing. according to him, the name of prophet Muhammad proves nothing but for yeshua dr brown has to speak about somebody else and say that’s a type for Jesus because he can’t find a direct prophecy As far as Song of Songs goes dr brown tries to play it down but the Jews had a consensus, the Christians had a consensus that this is speaking about the allegorical meaning, the history of Israel, the messiah. All dr brown is doing is mocking all these scholars, why? Because he knows the minute he admits it’s a prophecy, the Muslims will have a field day. (Part 1) …Dr brown misrepresented Zakir when he mentioned the helper was the Holy Spirit, zakir never mentioned the Holy Spirit and all those who laughed, the jokes on them… (part 2) dr brown said it’s Jesus who said it’s the Holy Spirit, based on what? There’s manuscripts that don’t say the Holy Spirit. Christian history shows it was not seen as the Holy Spirit (even Paul was mentioned as the helper) dr brown the remained silent Dr brown says the Quran doesn’t mention yahweh, the pronoun in surah Ikhlas “HUWA” is a shortened form of yahweh then dr brown is challenged to show where Jesus in the Greek New Testament used the word yahweh, Dr brown couldn’t show niether in Greek or the language Jesus spoke and furthermore zakir gave more proof the God of Israel was called “el” before being called yahweh and there’s also biblical scholarship showing even yahweh is connected to canonite god and exodus 6:3 says that Abraham and patriarch didn’t know the name yahweh

@tyh3120

Жыл бұрын

“The children of Israel “is mentioned 32 times in the Quran, no mention of any Palestinian (= philistin, from the Crète, a white ). The famous verse of peace 5/32, begins by “ the children of Israel “ “ kill one soul as if you had killed all the humanity...” is a copy from the Talmud.

I really enjoyed this debate, i wish it was in a more longer format

@jundean5292

Жыл бұрын

Yes. It would have been better with atleast one more rebuttal period

Thank you for uploading the debate despite that the muslim side lost.

@amaledward2147

Жыл бұрын

@manhaju_salaf The Word of God speaks instead of God dude

@falsesectslikeshiaarejudeo6543

Жыл бұрын

Verses about Prophet Muhammad peace and blessings be upon him. Duet 18.18, 33.2 Mt paran or Mecca with 10k, Isaiah 42 of Kedar or Ismael with new covenant matches duet 18, sent to idol worshipers matches Islam, Solomon leaders of 10k he is MUHAMMAD-im ties with duet 33.2, describes the taking of Mecca 8AH. In nt jon 1.21 Prophet after messiah Jesus, jon 14 - 16 God will put His words in his mouth like Prophet like Musa. Mathew 21.43, the kingdom leaves his tribe due to cruci-fiction attempt, to the one of fruits is Ismail in genesis 17. Acts 3.22 also shows this is after Jesus, paul in gal 1.17 went to Arabia as he knew the final Prophet is from there. Dan 2. The Kingdom of God topples Rom and Iran both overtook the tribe of Jesus while Arabs took them... This is Jesus's gospel or good news, Islam.

@dawoodaisa4788

Жыл бұрын

​@@falsesectslikeshiaarejudeo6543 God come in Human body as jesus the saviour. Satan come in form of human as Mohammad. The way you twisted the truth with these verses is so deceiving. The same way satan deceive Eva and Adam twisted God's words. Thanks God my eyes were open and found the truth in jesus Christ. The truth as set me free. Proudly ex Muslim from Arab Republic of Egypt.

@unityisnottrinity5402

Жыл бұрын

Brown is a fraud. He says prophet Muhammad not fitting the description and makes jokes about Muhammed "being in the deciples." But if you read John 14-15, Jesus says in the same verses that "I will be in you." Clearly Jesus means his words and teachings, which Muslims follow. Islam is very similar to Jewish teachings. The teachings of prophet Muhammad was the new covanent. The Old Testament God is the same God as the Quran

@kingcarlos9380

Жыл бұрын

Zakir clearly won. He gave plenty of references to the bible and its up to the people to go back and read the verses. 👉 CHRISTIANITY IS A SCAM 👉 THE TRINITY IS FAKE

Well done, Dr. Michael Brown!😁👍 Hope our muslim friends awaken to the truth soon! We pray for you!

@MishimaZaibatsuCorp

Жыл бұрын

I think you missed the fact that Brown threw the bible under the bus because he couldn't respond

@NorwegianKnifeDude

Жыл бұрын

@@MishimaZaibatsuCorp Where exactly?

@MishimaZaibatsuCorp

Жыл бұрын

@@NorwegianKnifeDude the song of songs! Didn't you notice? He simply denied that it was prophesy but argued that it was merely some poem of lovers. And he simply denied the pronunciation of the rabbi's in the audio clip and was utterly shocked when it played because he wished it would stop - huge loss for Brown. On the contrary Zakir shared a ton of references and built a strong argument only to be met with red herrings thrown by Brown who just also did many adhom attacks instead of responding to the points raised by Zakir. Brown was being insincere and inconsistent, it was apparent.

@MishimaZaibatsuCorp

Жыл бұрын

@@NorwegianKnifeDude Zakir has re-initiated the conversation of Sheikh Deedat of - Prophet Muhammad ﷺ mentioned in the bible - this is the beginning of a new direction of arguments that Christian preachers must acknowledge because its in their scripture, they have no option but to concede to the amount of evidence presented in this debate.

@MishimaZaibatsuCorp

Жыл бұрын

@@NorwegianKnifeDude Mathew 7:23: "Many will say to Me on that day, ‘Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in Your name, and in Your name drive out demons and perform many miracles?’ Then I will tell them plainly, ‘I never knew you. Away from me, you evildoers!" Look at the above verse, don't you see that Jesus is addressing the Christians that Brown pointed to in this debate? That will do miracles, cast demons, heal etc.? It's so clear! This is from your scripture!

"Paul quotes from Greek poets". Thank you Dr. Brown, for confirming Paul is a heretic.

@axis2312

Жыл бұрын

@Jesus or Muhammed I would facepalm too if a self-proclaimed 13th apostle never met or quoted my "God and saviour"

@stoispapi2380

Жыл бұрын

For sure.

@axis2312

Жыл бұрын

@H K Phooey oh we pivoting to Islam because we can't refute valid claims?

@FazsterHQ

Жыл бұрын

@H K Phooey Christian’s are quick to become atheists and hide their faith when they get face palmed.

@axis2312

Жыл бұрын

@H K Phooey but as an atheist or agnostic you take the words of scientists as gospel when they have no empirical evidence or plausible explanation for the creation of the universe and what's therein, so why do get to come and lecture us

obviously Dr. Michael Brown was able to prove his points. it doesn't take a biblical scholar to show that Muhammad isn't in the bible. But hopefully this will put these ridiculous claims to rest.

@abdullahassaffah

Жыл бұрын

He didn't even respond to a single point zakir made

@tingoron

Жыл бұрын

@@abdullahassaffah He did. He also schooled Zakir. Zakir argument make Muhammad as an insult. 😅😅

@cabletelcontar5440

Жыл бұрын

​@Abdullah Assaffah did you watch it at all?

@DJRoll15

Жыл бұрын

@@abdullahassaffah I know you want to defend Islam, but that is a terrible take lol. It’s so objectively obvious Muhammad is not prophesied in the Bible. Dr. Brown didn’t have to do the debate but he did and wiped the all the arguments away.

@falsesectslikeshiaarejudeo6543

Жыл бұрын

@@DJRoll15 do you have an example? Mike tried to defend that Jesus was in Egypt in Mathew and Palestine in Luke for same early years... such nonsense... did he time travel? if no answer you prove bible is flawed. So Quran fixes it.

Wow that's awesome... Plain and clear @ Dr Brown

@topguru4318

Жыл бұрын

Emotional arguments. Brown didn't address the issues. Lost the debate.

@charlesphilip7308

Жыл бұрын

@@topguru4318 i differ.. Infact Dr Brown addressed it very aptly. It’s very evident that he stood the debate unarguably and there are no response to his logic and questions..

@purdess2.040

Жыл бұрын

@@charlesphilip7308 he didn’t, he didn’t even address Deuteronomy 33:2 or Psalms 84

@HeLpLOstGOdAny1

Жыл бұрын

@@purdess2.040 It is impossible to address delusion, your insanity and hallucinations won't save you from facts about life. Islam is a sham: Too many fallacious and erroneous claims about life we have observed, tested and proved to be absolutes about reality for Islam to pass any test, it is a perversion of the observable reality in which we live.

@praisebrothers1334

Жыл бұрын

@@purdess2.040 I think you should go thru the video again... It's clearly explained

Imagine starting your opening statement by attacking the NT which has nothing to do with what’s being debated about…. That was already a win for dr. Brown

@bourbon4707

Жыл бұрын

Thats Muslims hobby, attacking Bible to prove Muhammad, because Muhammad never exist in the Bible. But we Christian never attack Tanakh because Tanakh talking about Jesus The Messiah

@ijazthetrini

Жыл бұрын

Hi Billy, Based on your comment I (with all due respect) don't think you understand what Br. Zakir did or why it was relevant to the debate. I hope that this message reaches you in a good way (for clarity's sake). This debate is about identifying a figure (the Prophet Muhammad ﷺ) who is claimed to be prophesied in the Bible. That means there are three necessary elements which need to be discussed in this debate: 1. How do we identify prophecies in the Bible & what are they? 2. How do we identify figures (persons) who are prophesied in the Bible & who are they? 3. Given that the Bible is separated into two main sections (Old & New Testaments), how do we assess #1 and #2 (above) between these two sections (examining their intertextuality)? This essentially boils down to establishing the exegetical standard with which Dr. Brown already agrees. For points #1 to #3, Dr. Brown asserts that these passages are about Christ Jesus. Br. Zakir in his opening statement merely presented multiple valid examples of the exegetical principles that Dr. Brown already approves of and uses, when it comes to Christ Jesus. Therefore his use of the New Testament was not irrelevant, but rather essential in laying out the i hermeneutical standards & tools that were going to be used by him (Br. Zakir). Br. Zakir is first asking the question, how do we interpret the Bible (what are the tools we both agree on using), then he proceeded to use those tools on the text. So it is inaccurate to claim it (his points about the New Testament), "...has nothing to do with what's being debated about..." I hope that you can reconsider your claim, afterall I know you want Muslims to benefit from this debate, let's try to be fair where we can. Regards, Ust. Ijaz the Trini.

@neildeakin4454

Жыл бұрын

@@ijazthetrini So cutting to the chase, is Muhammed being prophesised in songs of Solomon and is Muhammed the spirit of Truth?

@knowledge_lantern

Жыл бұрын

​@Calling Christians why did you write all that ? Billy knows what Zakir did rather he's just insecure and doesn't have a response.

@ijazthetrini

Жыл бұрын

Hi Neil, It depends on the context just, like how it was presented by Br. Zakir. I certainly do not think that Song of Soloman is about Christ Jesus or the nation of Israel. Is there a point about Br. Zakir's arguments that you wanted to examine?

Where are the Christians who accused the MDI in not uploading the debate after video on SOCO channel was taken down?! You guys should be ashamed of yourself.

@purdess2.040

Жыл бұрын

They are coping

@wisdomofislamm

Жыл бұрын

@Crus Ader Here the debate, pathetic weasel. MDI never broadcast it live. Dishonest Christian youtube channel "soco film" upload debate without permission of MDI. You guys behavior proves once again the fact that there is nothing more disgusting than "christian love"

@orangemanbad

5 ай бұрын

I feel bad for the Muslim position. I hope next time they bring a scholar who could at least bring a coherent message. This was a disgrace to Muhammad

Mdi shouldn't have uploaded this debate.its embarrassment on your side

@zillshadow

Жыл бұрын

Are you sure

@blueocean5070

Жыл бұрын

Zakir ate Brown alive, what are you on about

@blueocean5070

Жыл бұрын

@PeaceMaker Song of Solomon 2 sounds the same, that it's talking about love etc yet Jews in Talmud said it's referring to the Messiah. Do yourself a favor and read the Qur'an my friend, I know one of us will abide in hellfire forever, and Alhamdulillah, by the will of God it's not me. You heard both sides, now it's on you to do the work. Just start reading the Quran and start from anywhere, you'll realize it can't be the words of a man, let alone an illiterate one.

@andrevisser7542

Жыл бұрын

​@@blueocean5070 🤣🤣🤣

Superb debate by Zakir. This guy is so underrated he has depth knowledge. Brown didnt answer directly in almost all questions.

@Superw0rrio

9 ай бұрын

I think you watched a different debate in your head. Dr. Brown directly answered every single word that Zakir said. You might want to actually listen.

@reneandjohn

8 ай бұрын

It seems you did not watch the debate very properly. Just a few examples. Concerning מַחֲּמַדִּ֑ים‬, ma-ḥă-mad-dim in Songs of Solomon 5:16 did dr Brown pronounce as well. Dr Brown explained the Hebrew word, the text and the context. It has nothing to do with a name, let alone the name of ‘Muhammad’. The context is a love song, a beautiful young girl (Shulammite maiden) who is in love with a young shepherd bo. So it has nothing to do with ‘Muhammad’. Zakir had no answer for that, he was schooled by dr Brown in a lesson classic Hebrew. Concerning the Paraclete in John 14-16 Zakir was set checkmate by Dr. Brown. Dr. Brown referred to John 14:16 in which Jesus Christ said that the Paraclete was with the disciples, and therefore not Muhammad who should come 500 years earlier. Zakir had no answer for that. Dr. Brown referred again to John 14:16 in which Jesus Christ also said that Paraclete will be in the disciples, and therefore the Paraclete is not Muhammad. Zakir had no answer for that. About Deuteronomy 18, could Zakir not show one example in which the term מִקֶּ֥רֶב אֲחֵיהֶ֖ם, miq-qe-reḇ ’ă-ḥê-hem ‘from their brothers' is mentioned with another group of people than own countrymen. Furthermore, Dr. Brown referred to Deuteronomy 17, which states very clear that a foreigner is not a brother of the Israelites. Zakir had no answer for that. "you are to appoint over yourselves the king whom the Lord your God shall choose. Appoint a king from among your brothers; you are not to set over yourselves a foreigner who is not one of your brothers." Deuteronomy 17:15. So the prophet in Deuteronomy 18 must be an Israelite, no foreigner.

@Mark-bl5ro

8 ай бұрын

Wow! So Zakir's knowledge is considered deep by Islamic standards?!!

@ionictheist349

7 ай бұрын

I don't think u really watched it. This is a humiliation of Zakir tbh

@dark_mode

7 ай бұрын

Muslims are coping hard after this embarrassing debate performance 😂😂

Thank you to both participants! Dr Brown, thank you for such a great debate, you sir did a fantastic job!! 🙏

@Randomhandlename

Жыл бұрын

Dr brown was schooled Dr brown challenges zakir asking where is it mentioned Ishmael being brethren of Israel zakir answers his challenge quoting genesis 16:12 Deuteronomy 24 dr brown never answered if the edomites are classed as the brothers if he says yes then so are Ishmaelites and if he says no then that’s speaking about brothers within the nation not brothers of the nation. Dr brown was challenged to answer why did John change the day Jesus died to make him look like the Passover lamb, dr brown remained silent Dr brown was challenged to answer why did Mathew have to make a story about herad, dr brown remained silent

@Randomhandlename

Жыл бұрын

Dr brown was challenged to answer why did Mathew have to make a story about herad, dr brown remained silent Dr brown never answered about Ishmaelites taking the land from Nile to euphoraties with the coming of Muhammad Dr brown was exposed in the end when a clip of a verse being recited in Hebrew by Jews reciting as mahamadim which dr initially said is not a correct pronunciation Dr brown was refuted about Jews praying to jarusilum, Muslim uses to pray that direction then went back to praying to ancient house Kaaba, dr brown remained silent Dr brown said Zakir added to the Bible in Deuteronomy 18 but didn’t say where or how then remained silent Dr brown was refuted asking if Muhammad had a primary mission to Israel? Prophet Muhammad came to renew the covenant with Israel and dr brown mentioned the servant would go to China, well guess what the Muslims in the 7th century reached from the border of China to border of France and wherever the servant’s mission goes, the primary people who should come into the knowledge of God are the ishmaelites. So who brought the ismaelites out from idol worship and paganism? It was the Muslims and dr brown admits this in his book then dr brown remains silent Dr brown contradicted himself when he mentioned Deuteronomy 24 and mixed brothers of the nation and brothers within the nation

@Randomhandlename

Жыл бұрын

Dr brown contradicted himself when he mentioned Deuteronomy 24 and mixed brothers of the nation and brothers within the nation Dr brown was refuted about the words “from within you” none of the older texts say what the addition later on says, as the scholars mention it was an addition. Dr brown was never able to answer concerning older texts (Part 1)..Dr brown initially never answered the rebuttal about servant coming after the second temple.. (part 2) the interpretation that dr brown gave was being twisted, hagai doesn’t talk about first or second temple Hagai speaks about previous and latter glories, that’s the twisting of the Hebrew. The suptoegent confirms this and hagai 2:3 confirms this. So this person who will bring glory to the temple or could be any time in the future and it’s not limited to the second temple. (Zakir also refuted dr brown in the end about there being more temples and hagai destroying and rebuilding the temple and temple also being the land as other scriptures mention) Dr brown was refuted about “prophet like me” while many verses indicate he will be a lawgiver. Furthermore prophet Muhammad did many miracles and when he spoke to God even though moses spoke numerous times, Muhammad spoke to God on a higher level when he descended to the highest level and directly, so it’s quality not quantity… part 2 dr brown was challenged to show which servant of Isiah 42 brought the Ishmaelites out of idol worship… part 2 dr brown claims Jesus is a law giver like moses because of the sermon of the mount, the sermon of the mount is not a new law and the followers of Jesus were still following the law of Moses and even James challenged Paul to see if he’s still following the law of Moses Dr brown made a claim Jesus performed miracles greater than moses and was challenged to show and give proof.. part 2 dr brown claimed Jesus gave life and raised himself from the dead but moses even gave life to a stick which doesn’t even have heart or brain or other functioning organs which keeps you alive and as afar dr brown mentioning Jesus reading himself up from the dead but according to who? Who saw the physical Jesus being raised up? Paul mentions vision and the context also, the people with Paul didn’t see physical Jesus some saw something but didn’t hear anything some heard something but didn’t see anything

@Randomhandlename

Жыл бұрын

Dr brown was refuted about Deuteronomy 34:10 even in the mazaretic text it’s a prophetic past tense and and rabbis academics say it rules out future prophets from Israel Dr brown was refuted with regards jesus coming.. Acts 3:22 Peter applies Deuteronomy to moses, actually on a plain reading Peter says Jesus is in heaven now and must await there until all things are restored then he quoted Deuteronomy ”for verily moses said” then he quotes Deuteronomy 18, so how is jesus coming back as moses in his full glory as so called “god”? Dr brown says the servant of the Lord can’t be Muhammad because in Isiah 53 the servant dies, actually from Isiah 40 to 53 it’s speaking about two servants, it’s speaking about the suffering servant which is Israel and it’s speaking about a deliverer moreover even the Jewish scholars don’t even take these verses as speaking of the same person Dr brown says hagarhim proves nothing. according to him, the name of prophet Muhammad proves nothing but for yeshua dr brown has to speak about somebody else and say that’s a type for Jesus because he can’t find a direct prophecy As far as Song of Songs goes dr brown tries to play it down but the Jews had a consensus, the Christians had a consensus that this is speaking about the allegorical meaning, the history of Israel, the messiah. All dr brown is doing is mocking all these scholars, why? Because he knows the minute he admits it’s a prophecy, the Muslims will have a field day. (Part 1) …Dr brown misrepresented Zakir when he mentioned the helper was the Holy Spirit, zakir never mentioned the Holy Spirit and all those who laughed, the jokes on them… (part 2) dr brown said it’s Jesus who said it’s the Holy Spirit, based on what? There’s manuscripts that don’t say the Holy Spirit. Christian history shows it was not seen as the Holy Spirit (even Paul was mentioned as the helper) dr brown the remained silent Dr brown says the Quran doesn’t mention yahweh, the pronoun in surah Ikhlas “HUWA” is a shortened form of yahweh then dr brown is challenged to show where Jesus in the Greek New Testament used the word yahweh, Dr brown couldn’t show niether in Greek or the language Jesus spoke and furthermore zakir gave more proof the God of Israel was called “el” before being called yahweh and there’s also biblical scholarship showing even yahweh is connected to canonite god and exodus 6:3 says that Abraham and patriarch didn’t know the name yahweh

@Mark-bl5ro

Жыл бұрын

@Find Out Did you watch the same debate that everyone else watched or create another one in your head? Anyway, I'll give you 3 clarifications. * The Israelites and Israelites are cousins not brothers because they share the same grandfather (Abraham). Yes the Edomites would be considered brothers because they're descended from Isaac like the Israelites, but the phrase 'from among your brethren ' usually refers to the Israelites themselves. * When Zakir realised he's losing the debate he tried to change the subject by attacking the New Testament. This is a very common tactic used by Muslims when they start losing a debate. But because Dr. Brown is very intelligent, he didn't fall for it and brought him back to the topic, so he wasn't being 'silent '. * About Muhammad's so-called miracles, you say his miracle is that he talked to God. Did anyone ever witness Muhammad talking to God? And if there were no witnesses, shouldn't that be enough reason for any rational person to conclude that he never did? In truth, if Muslims ever had any evidence that Muhammad was a prophet and that God made contact with him, they wouldn't have to embarrass themselves by trying to find evidence in other people's books using twisted logic. To quote Dr. Brown's words 'can't your religion stand on its own?'

Fantastic debate Mr.Brown🎉

@Randomhandlename

Жыл бұрын

Fantastic job staying silent when confronted, fantastic job defending a book you don’t know where and who it from, fantastic job believing in a god who regrets while being all knowing, hilarious

@noelroga4593

Жыл бұрын

@@Randomhandlename fantastic in pointing out that prophet like Moses isnt muhammad. While zakir kept branching out to point that Ismaelite can be that prophet with out of context verses that Brown refuted as well. Zakir kept cherry pick verses regarding servant of the Lord in Isaiah 42 but failed to realize there were 4 songs regarding servant of the Lord in Isaiah. Muslim loved that specific song because it has the word 'kedar' in it while kept a blind eye to the other 3 which Zakir didnt even refute but double down on his point..yeah . fantastic job by mr Brown

@Randomhandlename

Жыл бұрын

@@noelroga4593you did exactly what dr brown did, stayed silent and ignored all of the points I brought against your Bible which destroys your faith completely. Isiah 42 cannot be refuted especially when it comes to context and mountain sela in Saudi Arabia and kedar son of ishmael, we don’t know where and who the Bible came from it’s been corrupted and has contradictions and errors and your god in the Bible regrets while being all knowing hilarious.

@noelroga4593

Жыл бұрын

@@Randomhandlename 😂 exactly what i thought. Even if a specific point has been refuted, you guys just keep saying it hasn't been refuted. Yeah, keep saying Isaiah 42 refers to Muhammad, maybe repeating it enough will convince the mormon

@Randomhandlename

Жыл бұрын

@@noelroga4593 It was the other way around Dr brown challenges zakir asking where is it mentioned Ishmael being brethren of Israel zakir answers his challenge quoting genesis 16:12 Deuteronomy 24 dr brown never answered if the edomites are classed as the brothers if he says yes then so are Ishmaelites and if he says no then that’s speaking about brothers within the nation not brothers of the nation. Dr brown was challenged to answer why did John change the day Jesus died to make him look like the Passover lamb, dr brown remained silent Dr brown was challenged to answer why did Mathew have to make a story about herad, dr brown remained silent

Dr Brown was very intelligent and strongly refuted Zakir's sad points.

@ia6432

Жыл бұрын

Can you explain brown’s point about Jesus’ words being preserved? This is false but maybe you can explain as it is his key idea

@trentcheney7441

Жыл бұрын

@@ia6432 Silly Muslim! It is not false. Jesus words/teachings/actions have been preserved in the Gospels.

@alizvondhordez4314

Жыл бұрын

@@trentcheney7441 hehe it's in gospel not bible hehe

@trentcheney7441

Жыл бұрын

@@alizvondhordez4314 What are you on? The Gospel is in the Bible.

@YeshuaSalvationMinistries

9 ай бұрын

@@trentcheney7441 ahaha, thats what happen when you refuse to educate yourself

It's clear that Zakir had the more substantive and researched arguments. Dr. Brown was basically preaching for a good part of it

@TK-lx6oc

Жыл бұрын

zakir had 6 whole years to prepare and still got no diff by dr brown

@israfilangel8062

Жыл бұрын

@@TK-lx6oc he didn't prepare for years lmo he already debated this topic with Dr James white a decade ago he doesn't need any further preparation besides reading and studying Brown's 5 volumes and so on

@capricorn87

Жыл бұрын

Zakir, I don’t think you’re watching the right debate. Zakir got schooled.

@andrevisser7542

Жыл бұрын

Well how many times can you show there is no Muhammad in the Bible?

@ia6432

Жыл бұрын

@@TK-lx6oc how many years to develop trinity?

I think Muslim need to rethink their position. Because this debat show us how silly their claim really is.

@kibriaali2906

Жыл бұрын

Brown didn't have sound logical answers, if you zoom out of your Christian lenses you could see how he swerves answers from Zakir and the Muslim questioners at the end. Christians emotional tactics will not work on us Muslims, we work on logic since God tells us to use our reason, emotions come after.

@gurutruthspeak598

Жыл бұрын

You need to rethink your concept of god and the concept of revelation because the former is illogical, and the latter is corrupt AF!!!😂😂😂

@anneeq008

Жыл бұрын

Lol.... You should expand on what "position" you mean..... Because regardless of whether the property Muhammad peace be upon him is in the CURRENT Bible or not. Our central post of faith is monotheism. As was the Prophet Jesus upon whom Allah is pleased. The position you REALLY need to rethink is the trinity when there's not even a slither of textual evidence for in the Bible

Great Lesson from Dr Brown about Biblical text, great to see this happening, need to see more of this non violent interaction,

@arshanennana

Жыл бұрын

😂 Great lesson? Didn't he tell you, "go Google it"? Hmmm. Great lesson if your a googlist and study googlology. But people who do real study, Could see, who was the one who was giving "lesson". But sure, see it as you like.

@zahidfareed3218

Жыл бұрын

great lesson is to ignore opponents objection and keep on repeating your preconcieved notions that Muhammed is not in the Bible

@abdullahassaffah

Жыл бұрын

Christian have a habit when they get caught they change the definition of words in the dictionary to suit them Bible wasn't even written in English either so that excuse further fails

@filthymouthschoolboymakesi1236

Жыл бұрын

@@zahidfareed3218 He directly refuted one claim after another. Cope harder.

@ConquerModernity111

Жыл бұрын

The Westerner sits and watches in comfort as the Muslim world is occupied, invaded, starved and bombed into oblivion for a century in the name of Liberalism, then has the nerve to talk about violence. If Christians respected their religion and put up any resistance to liberal degeneracy the same would happen to you.

Jesus said: I am the way the truth and the life, no one comes to the father but through me. Praise the true and living God for opening the eyes of muslims around the world and accepting Christ as savior before it's too late (I'm one of them) Maranatha, even so come lord Jesus!

@Khaledf

Жыл бұрын

You don't follow Jesus. You follow Paul instead.

@zahidfareed3218

Жыл бұрын

amazing and pitiful .. how christian accept everything in bible to be inspired word of God.. ignoring convulated history of christianity .. how it was corrupted by imposter paul ... win of pauline christianity over apostelic jewsih christianity ... syncretism of jewsish monoethiesm with greek polytheism... and invetion of tritheistic non sensical doctrine through church and councels

@antonioorozco4896

Жыл бұрын

​@@Khaledf and muslims don't follow allah, they follow muhammad.

@ITISFINISHED777

Жыл бұрын

@@Khaledf I understand your logic behind that, however Paul pointed to Christ and lead the gentiles to him, Paul was going around killing christians and then Jesus appeared to him on the road to Damascus where Paul then became a disciple & preached the good news all over. It's not too late Khalid, I urge you from the bottom of my heart to seek the true and living God. There is not much time left before the great tribulation happens on earth as it's written.

@Khaledf

Жыл бұрын

@@ITISFINISHED777 Paul did not even dare to mention this vision to prove his authority in front of true Jesus' disciples. He was summoned by James and even forced to do a very strict Jewish ritual purification to prove that he wasn't actual teaching to cancel the law of God ( torah) , which Paul did. We know from his letters that paul taught people to cancel the torah. He even described the law of God as "fables of jews" .

This is embarrassing for Muslims 😂😂😂

It's insane to claim that your prophet is in a book you claim is corrupt. Spitting on the Bible only to appeal to it is madness.

@PEH5806

Жыл бұрын

Corrupt means you may find true and fabricated statement. One will not say corrupt if something wasn't there at all. Learn before make any unreliable claim

@JM-jj3eg

Жыл бұрын

@@PEH5806 So how do you know the part which is claimed to prophesy Muhammed is not corrupt?

@PEH5806

Жыл бұрын

@@JM-jj3eg Its easy. Which ever part tallies with the Quran its genuine as the Quran clearly stated there are 4 books mentioned by name which were send to the respective prophet begin with Moses the Torah, David the Psalm, Jesus the Injil ( original name) and last was Muhammad - Al Quran. More easier when we know No any prophets, not a single prophet has taught about trinity except Paul and not even Jesus. So whichever statement that contradict with teachings of all the prophets are confirmed to be false

@JM-jj3eg

Жыл бұрын

@@PEH5806 You clearly have not studied at how the Trinity is prefigured in the Old Testament. See Isaiah 9.6, Micah 5.2 for starters.

@PEH5806

Жыл бұрын

@@JM-jj3eg Isaiah 9:6 is a prophecy about a future child who would bear the government on his shoulders and be called by titles that could only rightfully be attributed to God: “For to us a child is born, to us a son is given, and the government will be on his shoulders. Micah 5;2(kjv) But thou, Bethlehem Ephratah, though thou be little among the thousands of Judah, yet out of thee shall he come forth unto me that is to be ruler in Israel; whose goings forth have been from of old, from everlasting. These are your two references..What are you trying to tell from this two verses? How do you tie up those statements to Jesus? Does it proof Jesus as God on those two statements? Before you answer, I also would like to know when did Jesus became.a ruler and governing a country or place? When was Jesus becomes King and which place he rules?

1:07:42 is the crux of the debate. It's really amazing how far some people are willing to go in twisting the scripture, in order to fit Muhammad in the Bible. If this is so crucial to your faith, yet requires an insane level of lies/self-deception, what are you even doing?

@amd1706

Жыл бұрын

I thought you were talking about the author of Mathew when he twisted the scripture of the OT.

@6BarcaXavi

Жыл бұрын

@@amd1706 so you admit Muhammad is not prophecied in the Bible and now try to attack it instead. Gotcha.

@amd1706

Жыл бұрын

@@6BarcaXavi When have I admitted that? You put words into my mouth similar to the gospel authors when they quoted the OT.

@princessanineveh

Жыл бұрын

​@@amd1706 well that's what the christians pagan do, they even put their words into their own bible.

@faillord3960

Жыл бұрын

@@6BarcaXavi let me tell you a thing you foolish individual we don't need to prove in your baseless books that the prophet Muhammad is sent from God the brothers are doing it as a secondary effort for them to test themselves against ignorant Christians missionarys call it a training that's all it was never a requirement

It was a great debate and i am very proud of our brother zakir who was on a absolute fire🔥 mode and did a fantastic job may Allah preserve him and bless him immensely. Aameen

Praise Jesus 🙌 for the great wisdom dispensed by Dr Brown. Thank you for this wonderful insight@Dr brown

@franciseze9531

Жыл бұрын

@Опровержение I can see you are trying so hard to misunderstand. Listen to the debate again

@dawoodaisa4788

Жыл бұрын

Ex Muslim here from Egypt. Dr brown did great job. It was not just debate but also reaching out to the Muslims in the hall to come to the truth. So amazing.

@jesustv1079

Жыл бұрын

@manhaju_salaf - who is the prophet mamtaqqim in the same vers of song of solomon?

@jesusisfalsegodfalsesaviou9114

Жыл бұрын

@@jesustv1079 *Prophet Muhammad (Sal)*

@jesustv1079

Жыл бұрын

@@jesusisfalsegodfalsesaviou9114 - So Muhammad name is Mamtagim? 🤣🤣🤣 Wether mahamaddim nor mamtaqqim is muhammad. if you say so then allah is a mice because "akbar" means in hebrew mice. And "al lah" means in hebrew oak. Everytime when muslims say "allahu akbar" they say "allah is a mice" or "oak is a mice".

Alhamdullilah

@ryanhulme3303

11 ай бұрын

Alhamdulilah? Praise be to Lah? Who is Lah Abdul?

What a shame muslims claiming Dr. Brown lost the debate. 😂😂😂

Look at how they both represent their head. The behavior, sincerity. Jesus is Lord repent before it's too late.

An innocent question about the triune god, and especially the verse of John 3:16. When the father portion of the triune god was begetting the son portion of the triune god, was the holy spirit portion a cuck? Did the holy spirit portion of the triune god witness the fertilization of the womb that bore the son portion or did the holy spirit portion actively participate? If the holy spirit portion of your triune god participated in the begetting of the son portion, does that mean it was a holy DP (because the father portion and the holy spirit portion were actively involved)? If the triune god is always a triune god and never becomes a dual god (when the son portion is not around), does that mean the son portion was also participating in the begetting of itself? Does that qualify as incest, because the son is fertilizing the womb of its mother (along with the father and the holy spirit)? If you claim your triune god is spiritual and physical. Trying to understand that bogus concept is difficult, are you saying that the spiritual portion of the triune god was responsible for the begetting of the son portion? How can a spirit beget? Beget is a physical act of fertilization that occurs among lower animal functions of reproduction. So if the son portion of your triune god is the physical aspect of your triune god, then the son committed incest with his mother and ejaculated himself into her. If the father portion of your triune god is the physical aspect of your triune god then did fornication occur? Because clearly there's no record of Mary ever having married the father portion of the triune god, and nowhere in the bible does it mention that your triune god married any of its creation.

@Hananiah70

Жыл бұрын

The trinity makes no sense, if you read the New Testament with a open mind of not believing in trinity it will make sense.

@Hananiah70

Жыл бұрын

I don't believe in Trinity and I'm a Christian

The Bible is amazing

@TruthNgullie

Жыл бұрын

It's beyond Amazing, but the name of Mohammad was not mention in the Amazing Bible the word of God,

@celestialknight2339

Жыл бұрын

As a Muslim I can easily agree-since we believe in God, and in what was revealed to us, and what was revealed to you. And our God and your God is one & the same-and to Him we surrender ourselves completely. But know that you have NOTHING to truly stand upon, until you uphold the Torah, the Gospel, and EVERYTHING else revealed to you from your Lord. So if you embrace the Qur’an-which no doubt proves itself to be the pristine revelation of the God of Abraham-then it is truly better for you, and for your own sake. But if you turn your back on its message-the words of your Lord-then know that God is not blind to anything you do. And bear witness that we devote ourselves entirely to God. All praise be to Him-the God of Abraham, the God of Noah, the God of Moses, and the God of Jesus, the son of Mary-the Lord of all the worlds. He alone is worthy of worship; God the Ultimate & Absolute, who neither begets nor was begotten, and who has no co-equal.

@TruthNgullie

Жыл бұрын

@@celestialknight2339 But you Muslims are following the false prophet and false God,

@truthdoesntcomeeasy743

Жыл бұрын

​@@TruthNgullie Remember that Jesus reb-uked those who demonstrated double standards. Where is the name "Jesus" mentioned in the OT? If you can quote that so it will be amazing. If you fai-l to quote, then you need to question as to what Spirit led YOU to do what Jesus R_E-B-U-KE-D?

@avalancheofapostasy4916

Жыл бұрын

@@truthdoesntcomeeasy743 So now it's clear muhammad's name is not in The HOLY BIBLE which is the only book that counts, and like a good satan worshipping muhammad you are going to claim JESUS'S name is not there...😂😃😁. Typical thing for a looser to attempt to do...😂😃😁

Thanks this video because my family now in Canada, converted now in Christianity, because of this video 😇 Jesus christ loves us ❤❤❤❤❤❤

@shampoo2369

Жыл бұрын

lol yeah right

@Docpowel

Жыл бұрын

Halleujah praise God

@neilbeyers9786

Жыл бұрын

Good news Terrence and an encouraging post.

@efdawahfan

Жыл бұрын

which version ?

@devadasn

Жыл бұрын

@@efdawahfan there are 29 versions of the Quran. 😂

Zakir's ability to respond with specific data and evidence no matter the length of time he has is just legendary. He is by far the best debater we have for Christians today.

@ziaulhaqharuna2323

Жыл бұрын

I agree with you

@elsemorris906

Жыл бұрын

If he is the best that Muslims have, then islam is in deep trouble. The only reference in the Bible to Ahmed (because his name wasn't actually "Muhammad" is the warnings in the Bible about false prophets. Muslims are venerating a false prophet and a pagan god.

@unityisnottrinity5402

Жыл бұрын

Brown says prophet Muhammad not fitting the description and makes jokes about Muhammed "being in the deciples." But if you read John 14-15, Jesus says in the same verses that I will be in you. Clearly Jesus means his words and teachings, which Muslims follow. Islam is very similar to Jewish teachings. The teachings of prophet Muhammad was the new covanent and the old testament God is the same God as the Quran

@kingcarlos9380

Жыл бұрын

Zakir clearly won. He gave plenty of references to the bible and its up to the people to go back and read the verses. 👉 CHRISTIANITY IS A SCAM 👉 THE TRINITY IS FAKE

@elsemorris906

Жыл бұрын

@Unity is not trinity You claim "Muslims follow the teachings if Jesus." No, they don't. Jesus said "I and the Father ARE ONE." And "No man come to the Father except by Me." Muslims don't accept that. Jesus predicted his death and resurrection when He told the disciples, "The Son of Man is going to be betrayed into the hands of men. They will kill him, and after three days he will rise." Yet Muslims deny the crucifixion and resurrection of Jesus Christ." Jesus also said, "Beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheep's. clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves." Yet Muslims have allowed themselves to be duped by the false prophet of Islam, Muhammed, and worship a pagan god of the kaaba.

Simple question for Muslims, if Allah is all powerful and knowing why didn't he just preserve the injil and the Torah as Muslims claim he did with the Quran? If they became lost or corrupted as Muslim's claim they were, your only conclusion would have to be is that Allah is deficient.

@Mark-bl5ro

8 ай бұрын

Six months on and still no answer from Muslims!

@DawahWDansrey

4 ай бұрын

Allah Never Intended For Us To See Those Previous Revelations! Both The Tawrat And The Injil Were Not For Us To See! The Tawrat Was Revealed For Musa (AS) And His Ummah And The Injil For The Ummah of Isa (AS)! Not For Us! The Quran Was Revealed To Prophet Muhammad (SAW) For His Ummah, Which Is The Whole of Mankind! That’s Why The Quran Is Preserved And The Previous Revelations Aren’t!

@Sean-lv6fx

4 ай бұрын

@@DawahWDansrey - Allah surely must have known the confusion it would cause by not preserving these originals as Muslims claim. Yet there isn't one piece of manuscript evidence that such texts ever existed. Yet we have _thousands of manuscripts_ confirming that the scriptures we have today agree with these ancient texts that predate the Quran by several centuries. The God that the christians and Jews believe in preserved his sacred texts and we have evidence to prove it. The God that Muslims believe in didn't or couldn't preserve the alledged texts he revealed to the Jews and Jesus. Either the Muslim claims are false or the God you believe in is deficient(and Muhammad is a false prophet).

@DawahWDansrey

4 ай бұрын

@@Sean-lv6fx Yes Allah Knew of The Confusion That Would Arise, But He Isn’t To Blaim For That Confusion, You Yourself Are! Like I Said The Tawrat And The Injil Were Never For Us To See! Those Were Revealed Solely For Their Ummahs! The Quran Was Revealed For This Ummah! This Concept Is Really Not That Hard To Understand! And You Claim That You Have Manuscripts Of The Original Scriptures, Yet The Oldest Manuscripts Of The Torah Date To 1000 Years After Moses! And The Oldest Manuscripts You Have Of The New Testament Date To 400 Years After Jesus! And Within These Manuscripts There Are Hundred Thousands Of Textual Variants! In The New Testament Alone There Are An Estimated 200.000 - 400.000 Textual Variants! And Also, There Are Hundreds Of Contradictions In The Bible! Do You Call That Preserved? So No! “The Muslim Claims” Aren’t False, Allah (SWT) Isn’t Deficient And Prophet Muhammad (SAW) Is A True Prophet!

Sorry to say, but doctor brown didn't address the points raised by zakir, he only says no not possible, I

@bourbon4707

Жыл бұрын

The best place for Muslims to look for Muhammad is Guantanamo or the best prisons in the world. The Bible is a holy book, not to glorify criminals like Muhammad.

@haikalsafrisam7818

Жыл бұрын

Yeah I feel same, he didn't really address the question

Thank God for Dr Brown ✝️❤️ Hopefully Muslims will acknowledge all facts and come to the Father not the deciever/liar

@Logia1978

Жыл бұрын

Yes sure: 2 Thessalonians 2:11 And for this cause *GOD* shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe *a lie* . Is there any power in the universe that can prevent that tribe to resist the delusion of your god ?

@DexterGoldMorgan

Жыл бұрын

By myself I can do nothing; I judge only as I hear, and my judgment is just, for I seek not to please myself but him who sent me. john 5: 30

@calebeli6850

Жыл бұрын

@Logia1978 Why didn’t you quote verse 10 and 12 too. Are you following the example of your god who is the ‘best of deceivers’? Here is the context: 2Thessalonians 2:10 “And with all deceivableness of unrighteousness in them that perish; because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved. 11 And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie: 12 That they all might be damned who believed not the truth, but had pleasure in unrighteousness.” God sends to them what they themselves ordered, he isn’t the best of deceivers like your god 👍

@Logia1978

Жыл бұрын

@@calebeli6850 Why should I quote anything else? Have you quote anything else from the quran to undrestand the context? Of course not... this is what we call the legendary Christian BIGOT double standard... Regardless what you quote, your God is the best of the decievers too because there is NO POWER in the universe that can resist the déception of your God... Case closed...

@tiisetsothandile8420

Жыл бұрын

@@Logia1978 No, of course there's no power that can save the Muslim nation & everyone that will believe in the lawless one(Antichrist/Al Mahdi) & he that works miracles by the power of Satan(false prophet/Isa) from the delusions that God will expose them to since they have refused to accept salvation through LORD JESUS CHRIST, and just because God will send those delusions doesn't mean he created them because just as my God sent/allowed Satan to mess with Job doesn't mean he created the desire which was in Satan to struggle with Job but your god; Allah, is a really weird god I don't want to lie🤦🏾‍♂️🕋👎

Even after the centuries Muslims can't find Muhammad in the bible . Cause he's not there . Move on Now . This debate itself is enough for the rational people

@youwhat491

Жыл бұрын

Parakletos can apply to arabic AHMAD (Praise more), As the greek word παρα κλητος (κλειτος) can be broken down PARA + KLETOS, PARA also carries the meaning 'over and above' 'in excess over' - Kletos = glorified, famed, praised, the noun form Kleos is given meaning epainos (= Praise) Meaning of Muhammad is found in the greek term Periklutos (Praised all round)

@TruthIsSalvation

Жыл бұрын

what say you to "you what" ❓

With this debate everything was very clear that muhammad was not prophesied in the bible. many muslim for sure will turn to Jesus become his follower

@ia6432

Жыл бұрын

Rasul ﷺ is CLEARER than the Jesus Christians believe in

@summer5145

Жыл бұрын

All Brown did was use very convincing language and tone to assert that Prophet Muhammad pbuh is not in the Bible. He didn't address Zakirs specific points. He wasn't able to tell the audience who is 'that prophet' from John chapter 1 who is identified as being separate from Christ. Neither was he able to tell us who was the Messenger of the Nations. If Jesus is God then how can he also be a messenger. Christians try to swing it both ways when it suits them. Was he God was he the son or was he a messenger. Which is it?

@amaan.23

Жыл бұрын

Muslim's see Jesus as a prophet

@pauloli4341

Жыл бұрын

Not only bible, but every other scripture given to prophets also should foretell the future messengers. Even hindu scriptures have references.

@Randomhandlename

Жыл бұрын

You must not be familiar with Isaiah 42

If I were Muslim I would just be highly embarrassed!

@jenniferphilips1916

Жыл бұрын

can you explain why and provide specific example ?

@SimpleReally

Жыл бұрын

@@jenniferphilips1916 when have christians ever given examples?

@buckoneal7483

Жыл бұрын

Yes Zakir’s appearance is not debate appropriate! Him sitting down during his presentation was very distracting! Also his argument’s were comical!

@truthdoesntcomeeasy743

Жыл бұрын

​@@buckoneal7483Wow that's what you Born Again / Christians call specific? 😆 Talking about sitting and attire but ZERO mention of the points. You know within yourself that as soon as you mention specific point, it's gonna get worse from the scriptures for your false faith.

@aaronkristo858

Жыл бұрын

You wouldn't be. Because you would have had education suppressed from your reach. And you wouldn't know anything that the extremist zealot leaders of your country didn't allow you to learn.

The closing statement from dr brown🙏🔥

@halim7725

Жыл бұрын

.. was embarrassing considering how the debate was driven. Deliberately targetting his blind followers who won't watch the entire thing and are just waiting for some comfort. Zakir schooled him, as he usually does. Kind thoughts for Bob the builder who raised his hand forever to get ended in a few seconds.

@JMJ-rb2ze

Жыл бұрын

Muslims 😂😂😂 🙏 😅 You need to repent and be baptized in the name of the Father the Son and the Holy Spirit🔥

@halim7725

Жыл бұрын

@@JMJ-rb2ze You mean the way it's written in 1 John 5 ? Oh wait a second, I see a footnote at the 8th verse, let's read it : "FOOTNOTE Late manuscripts of the Vulgate testify in heaven: the Father, the Word and the Holy Spirit, and these three are one. 8 And there are three that testify on earth: the (not found in any Greek manuscript before the fourteenth century)" Ooooooooh such a shame. I wonder why they had to FORGE new verses to insert this doctrine. You're welcome.

@jamesojeda5336

Жыл бұрын

​@@halim7725accept the reality my friend that your brother was roasted...😊

@andrevisser7542

Жыл бұрын

​@@halim7725, the squeeze demon certainly is blinding you...

*Timestamps:* 00:00 - Donation Appeal 00:16 - Introduction 01:12 - Debate format & addressing the audience 05:12 - Background of Brother Zakir Hussain 05:37 - Background of Dr. Michael Brown 07:40 - Topic of the Debate 08:18 - Opening Statement of brother Zakir Hussain 29:03 - Opening Statement of Dr. Brown 49:27 - Addressing the Audience 50:53 - 1st Rebuttal by brother Zakir Hussain 1:01:36 - 1st Rebuttal by Dr. Brown 1:11:57 - 2nd Rebuttal by brother Zakir Hussain 1:22:42 - 2nd Rebuttal by Dr. Brown 1:32:30 - Starting the QnA _QnA_ 1:35:05 - How does Deuteronomy 33:2 mention Prophet Muhammad ﷺ? 1:36:35 - Zakir's Refutation of Dr. Brown's Temple argument 1:37:51 - Dr. Brown's Response 1:39:40 - Yahweh in the Bible vs Allah in the Qur'an? 1:42:56 - Brother Zakir's Response 1:44:37 - Does Ezekiel 24:21 mention a prophecy against Prophet Muhammad ﷺ? 1:46:14 - Song of Solomon mentioning the name of Prophet Muhammad ﷺ 1:47:16 - Dr. Brown's Response 1:48:47 - Issues with elevating Jesus as God 1:49:47 - Dr. Brown's Response 1:50:59 - Brother Zakir's Response to Dr. Brown on Muhammad ﷺ in the Song of Solomon 1:52:34 - Dr. Brown's Response 1:54:05 - Corruption of the Bible as per Islam 1:55:31 - Dr. Brown's Response 1:57:00 - Analysis of the Holy Spirit in John 16:13 2:00:46 - Zakir's Response about the Paraclete not being the Holy Spirit 2:02:06 - Did Prophet Muhammad ﷺ see Allah ﷻ? 2:04:16 - Dr. Brown's Response 2:05:51 - Translation of God's name from the Old to the New Testament 2:08:27 - Brother Zakir's Response 2:11:04 - Concluding Remarks from Dr. Brown 2:16:29 - Concluding Remarks from brother Zakir 2:18:49 - Closing Remarks 2:21:11 - Wrapping Up

@sycorez

Жыл бұрын

Jzk legend

@asadullahsaaid3794

Жыл бұрын

​@@sycorez وَإِيَّاك‎ أَخِي 😊‎

@abdulmalik_al-habeshi

Жыл бұрын

you are not the hero we deserve but the hero we Need.

@1a17890

Жыл бұрын

😁

@TruthNgullie

Жыл бұрын

After all, Allah forgot to say in the Quran, that the name of Mohammad was mention in the Bible.

After watching this it got me think about islam . Mmmmmmm

@ski5003

Жыл бұрын

For any questions and misconceptions we are available.peace

@lefaseta8184

Жыл бұрын

Weekly we deliver young people from demonic spirits at the mention of the Name of Jesus Christ. People know Peace when they come to Jesus Christ. People even conquer spiritual attacks and witchcraft through the Name of Jesus Christ of Nazareth. Muslims stop acting like the Pharisees, scribes believing the scripts but denying the power seen with your own eyes, this makes you more blind than physical blindness.

@JMJ-rb2ze

Жыл бұрын

@@ski5003id muhmmed teach muttah marriage 😂

MashaAllah Brother Zakir Hussain never disapoint us in previous debates , he roasted and toasted Dawid wood , Samuel Green and James white Here too , he is exceptional Micheal Brown wasnt able to defend pressing questions raised by Zakir Husain , but kept a blind eye towards it and appealed to fallacy of circular reasoning that we must beleive everything in Bible this is not how the debate and arguements works

@emmytones8311

Жыл бұрын

Guess Zakir didn't read anymore than Deuteronomy 18:18 and he had 6 years to do it bcuz MOSES DID CLEARLY WARN US ABOUT FALSE PROPHETS LIKE MUHAMMAD AND HE CHECKS BOTH BOXES IN 18:20 👇👇👇 But the prophet who presumes to speak a word in my name that I have not commanded him to speak, or who speaks in the name of other gods, that same prophet shall die.’ Deuteronomy 18:20 Muhammad (not allah) recited and included the Satanic verses in the Quran. Muhammad fits both descriptions. (who presumes to speak a word in my name that I have not commanded him to speak and/or who speaks in the name of other gods) MUHAMMAD CHECKS BOTH BOXES MAKING HIM A FALSE PROPHET.

@purdess2.040

Жыл бұрын

Christians can’t comprehend that😂

@hubertagamasu6283

Жыл бұрын

Did you watch the debate with yoru eyes closed? 1. The Comforter is the Holy Spirit. 2. "Your brothers" refers to the Israelites. 3. The servant in Isaiah is Christ. Which of these points did you not get in the debate? Which circuar reasoning are you taling of? You are twisting clear passages to put Muhammed the Bile and Dr Brown is telling you the Bible does NOT mention Muhammed. How hard is that fr you to understand?

@mynamedoesnotmatter1

Жыл бұрын

@@hubertagamasu6283they cant comprehend it, they just cheer without understanding the actual debate. there is no intelligent muslims coz once they use their brain, they would become ex muslims 😂

@TruthNgullie

Жыл бұрын

Alhamdulillah.. Zakir hussain never disappointed you, but the name of Mohammad was not mention in the Bible.

A great debate. Shame it became so polemical and wasn’t just allowed to be shown (instead of shotgun posting elsewhere) on the MDI channel as is their right to do so. I say this of course as a Catholic. Such “gotcha” desires are not at all how religious people should treat each other. I pray both sides benefit from this interaction. I wish all my Muslim friends and companions a blessed Ramadan.

@reralt

Жыл бұрын

Brother are you and your family ok ? Activities on your channel abruptly stopped. I was wondering the other day about what happened. May Allah make it easy whatever you are going through.

@wolfenhauz

Жыл бұрын

@@reralt I’m gonna resume this week probably. Went through some more health scares and issues getting medical care for that. I did do a couple streams on others channels but I’ve been too tired to do anything else.

@wolfenhauz

Жыл бұрын

@@seaside9670 did SOCO have rights to the video? Did they host the event? Did they do the legwork to connect the debaters? Did they pay for the venue? Did they pay for food and housing of either of the debaters? Did they provide any of the tech for the debaters or any of the infrastructure?

@seaside9670

Жыл бұрын

@@wolfenhauz you said that the MDI was prevented from showing it on their MDI’s channel. That is not an accurate statement. That statement is a lie to cater to the Muslims. Also what Soco did was not a gotcha not sure how you can define it as that. They were not aware that MDI wanted to post first. I doubt you are Catholic. You laughed at the Trinity on Hamza’s den. To me you are very much in the vein of « open minded thinker » who used to call himself « open minded Christian ». A wolf in Sheep’s clothing.

@iliasalmaudi8365

Жыл бұрын

As a hypochondriac I can def empathize with you bro ! If you need any help please feel free to reach out. Someone somewhere most likely have been through similar situations so building bridges helps us find ways to benefit from what God Blesses us with in forms of acquaintances and provisions.

What's the point really, I've seen hundreds of these and the one thing you can guarantee is that the comments will be swarmed with Muslims parroting variations of 'our boy smashed you alhamdullilah' no matter how one-sided and clear-cut the debate was.

@runimcomingforyou.4505

Жыл бұрын

Lol you're trying to hard. Zakir used sources and logic whilst the other appealed to emotion and said " are you kidding me? Of course it doesn't mean this or that. No way, that's absurd".

@bourbon4707

Жыл бұрын

The best place for Muslims to look for Muhammad is Guantanamo or the best prisons in the world. The Bible is a holy book, not to glorify criminals like Muhammad.

@capricorn87

Жыл бұрын

@@runimcomingforyou.4505Dr. Brown mopped the floor with Zakir 😂.

@runimcomingforyou.4505

Жыл бұрын

@@capricorn87 Yet he's the one who made the excuse multiple times Zakir prepared years for this debate whilst he had a few months to soften the blow lol... Whatever helps you sleep at night.

Dr brown was strong!

@Randomhandlename

Жыл бұрын

Weak! He doesn’t answer questions and stays silent we don’t know where and who the Bible came from it has contradictions and errors

@avonsterling36120

Жыл бұрын

​@@Randomhandlename youre a waffler do you want to debate whats your discord

@Randomhandlename

Жыл бұрын

It was the other way around Dr brown challenges zakir asking where is it mentioned Ishmael being brethren of Israel zakir answers his challenge quoting genesis 16:12 Deuteronomy 24 dr brown never answered if the edomites are classed as the brothers if he says yes then so are Ishmaelites and if he says no then that’s speaking about brothers within the nation not brothers of the nation. Dr brown was challenged to answer why did John change the day Jesus died to make him look like the Passover lamb, dr brown remained silent Dr brown was challenged to answer why did Mathew have to make a story about herad, dr brown remained silent

@Randomhandlename

Жыл бұрын

Dr brown was challenged to answer why did Mathew have to make a story about herad, dr brown remained silent Dr brown never answered about Ishmaelites taking the land from Nile to euphoraties with the coming of Muhammad Dr brown was exposed in the end when a clip of a verse being recited in Hebrew by Jews reciting as mahamadim which dr initially said is not a correct pronunciation Dr brown was refuted about Jews praying to jarusilum, Muslim uses to pray that direction then went back to praying to ancient house Kaaba, dr brown remained silent Dr brown said Zakir added to the Bible in Deuteronomy 18 but didn’t say where or how then remained silent Dr brown was refuted asking if Muhammad had a primary mission to Israel? Prophet Muhammad came to renew the covenant with Israel and dr brown mentioned the servant would go to China, well guess what the Muslims in the 7th century reached from the border of China to border of France and wherever the servant’s mission goes, the primary people who should come into the knowledge of God are the ishmaelites. So who brought the ismaelites out from idol worship and paganism? It was the Muslims and dr brown admits this in his book then dr brown remains silent Dr brown contradicted himself when he mentioned Deuteronomy 24 and mixed brothers of the nation and brothers within the nation

@Randomhandlename

Жыл бұрын

Dr brown contradicted himself when he mentioned Deuteronomy 24 and mixed brothers of the nation and brothers within the nation Dr brown was refuted about the words “from within you” none of the older texts say what the addition later on says, as the scholars mention it was an addition. Dr brown was never able to answer concerning older texts (Part 1)..Dr brown initially never answered the rebuttal about servant coming after the second temple.. (part 2) the interpretation that dr brown gave was being twisted, hagai doesn’t talk about first or second temple Hagai speaks about previous and latter glories, that’s the twisting of the Hebrew. The suptoegent confirms this and hagai 2:3 confirms this. So this person who will bring glory to the temple or could be any time in the future and it’s not limited to the second temple. (Zakir also refuted dr brown in the end about there being more temples and hagai destroying and rebuilding the temple and temple also being the land as other scriptures mention) Dr brown was refuted about “prophet like me” while many verses indicate he will be a lawgiver. Furthermore prophet Muhammad did many miracles and when he spoke to God even though moses spoke numerous times, Muhammad spoke to God on a higher level when he descended to the highest level and directly, so it’s quality not quantity… part 2 dr brown was challenged to show which servant of Isiah 42 brought the Ishmaelites out of idol worship… part 2 dr brown claims Jesus is a law giver like moses because of the sermon of the mount, the sermon of the mount is not a new law and the followers of Jesus were still following the law of Moses and even James challenged Paul to see if he’s still following the law of Moses Dr brown made a claim Jesus performed miracles greater than moses and was challenged to show and give proof.. part 2 dr brown claimed Jesus gave life and raised himself from the dead but moses even gave life to a stick which doesn’t even have heart or brain or other functioning organs which keeps you alive and as afar dr brown mentioning Jesus reading himself up from the dead but according to who? Who saw the physical Jesus being raised up? Paul mentions vision and the context also, the people with Paul didn’t see physical Jesus some saw something but didn’t hear anything some heard something but didn’t see anything “The LORD your God will raise up for you a Prophet like me from your midst, from your brethren. Him you shall hear” Deuteronomy 18:15, Here moses is speaking to Israelites so when it says your God will raise up for you, “you” and “yourself” is all of Israel. Israel is being spoken of as one person, the pronoun is speaking of them as a singular person and God is speaking of them as a singular person then the brother cannot be the same person, the Hebrew is in singular, God said among “your” and “you” Israel in a singular brethren so now who is the brother of the singular person referred to as Israel, who is their brother? because Israel cannot be its own brother. Moses is speaking to “you” and “your” and “you” and “your” the singular pronoun is referring to the whole of Israel as one person but this person comes from the brethren of singular person for Israel, now Israel cannot be the brother of Israel so who is the brethren of Israel? And this verse proves this unless the prophet is from gentile nation Deuteronomy 34:10 “Since then, no prophet has risen in Israel like Moses, whom the LORD knew face to face”

The Muslim side finally release it, but only after putting a good framing on it with a pre-emptive video on dawahwise.

@belkairsaiefeddine4944

Жыл бұрын

how you can know that

@Ttcopp12rt

Жыл бұрын

Exactly! (Good to see vou dear brother)

@ConsideringPhlebas

Жыл бұрын

@@Ttcopp12rt God bless.

@user-nx5be4sw6w

Жыл бұрын

l😂 by uploading with quality sound and image.

@alonzoharris9049

Жыл бұрын

@@ConsideringPhlebas Why are you being dishonest? Both parties didn’t upload it. A third party called soco tried to steal the hard work of others. You are here to defend theft of your fellow Christians. You think it makes you look good. Trying to steal the investments of the organisation to steal all the views. You don’t have any shame trying to support theft?

So many ppl left Islam after this debate . Damn dr brown annihilates him.

@kate-224

Жыл бұрын

Really? U r true follower of Paul not jesus

@feduntu

Жыл бұрын

@@kate-224 you a follower of mhmd the kiddie fiddler not allah

@emmytones8311

Жыл бұрын

Although I agree that Dr. Brown wiped the floor with Zakir and his arguments, please don't use the same unprovable, recycled, unoriginal, and parroted claims that Muslims make constantly... They can't think for themselves, so stay away from that type of argument unless you want to look just as bad as them my brother. I say this in total sincerity, truly.

@azddine77

Жыл бұрын

Hhhhhhhhh you are deluded

@Ak-wv2gw

Жыл бұрын

Why would people leave Islam because of the bible?

MDI needed a week to decide to upload the debate , they realised that if they didn't post the debate it will look very weak , so the best option was to post it. They thought about it long and hard and came to the conclusion to post it but it doesn't matter the damage is done

@blueocean5070

Жыл бұрын

Not really, it's cause some shameless people recorded without permission and uploaded it without letting MDI know, when it was THEM who organized the debate. You lot are pitiful

@oneing4206

Жыл бұрын

@@blueocean5070 Typica Christian morals stealing the debate and uploading it without permission

@ia6432

Жыл бұрын

It took a couple of hundred years to sort out trinity so giving ppl a week to edit and publish a video with the agreement of both interlocutors isn’t an issue tbh don’t you think?

@conociendoelislam85

Жыл бұрын

I Saw this debate in a least 3 diferent channels, because, Lovely as muslims are, they said this video posted by SOCO Films had copyright problems...but, where was the copy right problem ? Mr. Brown could say the same about thiw channel too!!, because in the end he is in this video ...

@phoneacian

Жыл бұрын

@@ia6432 why do they need to edit ?

Muslims, we don't hate you. We hate the fact that you were deceived. You need to read your scriptures without bias. Please analyze the Quran and the Hadiths, honestly. When you try to cover the Quran and the Hadiths. You are lying to yourself. First Mohammad was not a descendant from Ishmael, Ishmael was Egyptian, not Arab. just check the Ethics of Mohammad. Another thing. See in the Quran who is the best of decivers (Allah). You know that you always lie. and tell me, who would be a liar? . All your imama, sheiks are liars. Just see who teaches to do Taquia ? ( Allah). Muslim brothers it is time for you to wake up. and Discover the truth.

You know they lost when they try to hide the debate lol

@diefaust4252

Жыл бұрын

Nothing is being hidden, else you wouldnt see this.' There was an agreement about who will upload first and some liars did not hold to that agreement (Christians).

@Hananiah70

Жыл бұрын

​@@diefaust4252 Many muslims will believe that the muslim won and Christians believe that the christian won. So in my opinion we should have 10 atheists judging who won.

@supervegeta3854

Жыл бұрын

@@diefaust4252 And you really believe this excuse ?

@ia6432

Жыл бұрын

@@supervegeta3854 did you listen to the conversation at the end of brown being bunked?

@Gaga4Parma

Жыл бұрын

They needed a week to edit the video. As you can see it's much higher quality in sound and visually with different angles etc SOCO uploaded the video without consent and got a strike against their channel and have had to apologise.

Genuine question, why can't Christians perform a debate without going into preaching mode? like bro just stick to the topic?

@FazsterHQ

Жыл бұрын

Their Holy Spirit, the shaytaan (satan), takes over their bodies when they go into full preaching mode, it’s quite funny to watch.

@mystaree

Жыл бұрын

In muhammed Hijah debate with David Wood didn't he start reciting the Qur'an at one point 😂😂😂

@pabloeskibar8076

Жыл бұрын

@@mystaree he even started spouting broken arabic to jordan peterson lol

@ilj3168

Жыл бұрын

@@pabloeskibar8076 Zakir did a great job of embarrassing himself and his religion 👏 Well done!

@blueocean5070

Жыл бұрын

@@mystaree After he was done demolishing that hammer man, he started reciting Quran in his free time 🤦‍♂️

with truth Christian fall with logic Christian break with bible Christian broken

@BlackJ1234

11 ай бұрын

Replace that with Islam... u guys have to lie to push muhammad into the bible... but y... thought u guys said it was currupted...

@abm5707

11 ай бұрын

​​@@BlackJ1234taqqiya or lies are islame 6th pillar. Without lies islam dies

Great to have a messianic jew and a muslim discussing.

Hussain got spanked as did the false belief that Muhammad is in the Holy Bible . Maybe when YAHVEH warns of false Prophets in Deut 18 & then Yeshua in the Bri't Chadashah.

This is a straight smack down Good job Dr brown Thank you Jesus!!!!

@Khaledf

Жыл бұрын

How exactly? Repeating his christian interpretation that jews don't accept and even without judging by objective standard is not called refutation.

@zakadam154

Жыл бұрын

eager for a much awaited "smack down" You guys are premature in rejoicing cos it has not happened

@Observation-ch9hc

Жыл бұрын

@@Khaledftake the lose😂

The correct pronunciation is "Machamadim" ...Not "Mach - mad"... Mr brown Deliberately Distorted the word ...

Brown is lying when he quotes Hebrew .. it is from your brethren .. not from your midst .. guys lying 🤥. Can’t believe he’s going that far 😂

thank you for posting this debate! i thought MDI wouldn't not upload this debate on their channel

@alzabur6330

Жыл бұрын

Why would you think that?

@kd12342

Жыл бұрын

@@alzabur6330 bcz zakir lost it utterly

@alzabur6330

Жыл бұрын

@jason202 nope, just cause you don't understand the arguments doesn't mean he did

@faithfulbeliever1849

Жыл бұрын

@@kd12342 lmo you have a flawed logic for thinking that way though Brown took an L there

@kd12342

Жыл бұрын

@@faithfulbeliever1849 Yeah we all can see how desperate your pup Zakir was to get out of that place 🙂.He tried many deviating questions which are not related to the topic. He got screwed in that too.💔

This was a pure masterclass by our brother Zakir Hussein Allahuma barik. Anyone who has actually studied these texts that he referenced and who's familiar with Israelite history (e.g. The Roman destruction of the Temple and exile etc.) would recognize this. Too bad this comment section is filled with ignoramuses who haven't studied any of this and either didn't watch brother Zakir's part or were too ignorant to understand the significance of his arguments. Anyway, jazakAllah khayr brother Zakir, and we're all looking forward to the release of your co-authored book Abraham Fulfilled in sha Allah.

@purdess2.040

4 ай бұрын

Christians cope when it comes to prophecys of jesus but go so in depth and go as literal as possible when it comes to prophecies of Muhammad SAW

@SoldierOfTheDeen

4 ай бұрын

@@purdess2.040 But the thing is, the more in depth you go with the biblical prophecies of the advent of the Prophet Muhammad PBUH, the more they become clear and solid. Same thing with the REAL prophecies about the advent of Jesus PBUH (e.g. Psalm 91, Isaiah 61 etc.) which actually match the Islamic belief about Jesus PBUH whereas even a cursory analysis of the Pauline attempts at finding prophecies of Jesus PBUH exposes them as falsehood.

@purdess2.040

4 ай бұрын

@@SoldierOfTheDeen exactly, they cant comprehend that. They dont understand anything about foreshadowing, jewish tradition, and are basically illiterate in the semitic languages. Psalms 84 is clear as day and till this day is a stab at the faith, they literally cant answer it besides coping that its in zion which makes no sense because there was no house of god that fit that description, there wasn’t even a temple yet

Why does the Tetragrammaton not appear in the Holy Qur'ān as it does in the Pentateuch?

@zakadam154

Жыл бұрын

Tetragrammaton not in the New Testament what do make of that bomb shell?

Concerning this muhammad mentioned in The HOLY BIBLE nonsense. In the words of our LORD Jesus Christ "IT IS FINNISHED" Next.

Loving Michael brown more than ever. Great to see him really enjoying himself while speaking the truth with love.

@abdullahassaffah

Жыл бұрын

Your truth of Bible which claims earth is circle and flat and on pillars

@kingsservantapologist

Жыл бұрын

@@abdullahassaffah do you believe that Allah descends in the last 3rd of the night?

@abdullahassaffah

Жыл бұрын

​​@@kingsservantapologist Imam Abu Hanifah said: "He (Allah) nuzul (descends), without inquiry into the modality of it.” (Sabuni, Aqidatu's-Salaf wa Ashaabu'l-Hadith, 42; Bayhaqi, al-Asmaa wa's-Sifaat, 456; Sharhu'l-Aqidati't Tahawiyyah, 245; Ali al-Qari, Sharhu'l-Fiqhi'l-Akbar, 60) Not in the the same way your God transformed himself into a bird to come to earth or create himself as Jesus human to come earth both illogical actions for our creator Back to topic the descent isn't in the human context it is a attribute of Allah he does as he is like none other his descend doesn't refer to creation descent

@kingsservantapologist

Жыл бұрын

@@abdullahassaffah the bible doesn't say he transformed himself.

I don't see how this is a debate really. I haven't seen any good argument from Zakir at all other than twisting scripture and red herring to another subject like the reliability of the new testament and appeal to authority. It was already a win for Dr. brown before the debate even started.

@jundean5292

7 ай бұрын

Brown got exposed 😂

Bob the Great is in the building! God bless you

@stoispapi2380

Жыл бұрын

So sad 🤣🤣 he even brought up a hadith that supports zakir hussain's arguments

@DrXoz

Жыл бұрын

The channel he owns Socco tried to steal the revenue of MDI on this event. WOW what a great thieve Bob the Liar is man OMG extremely good at representing Christianity.

@samboy90

Жыл бұрын

Only thing Bob the gob is great at is lying and deceiving.

@ismailassenjee5914

Жыл бұрын

Satan has blessed Bob

@kingcarlos9380

Жыл бұрын

Zakir clearly won. He gave plenty of references to the bible and its up to the people to go back and read the verses. 👉 CHRISTIANITY IS A SCAM 👉 THE TRINITY IS FAKE

Lmao, it's hilarious seeing christian comments here.... I'm really not surprised. If your supposed educated speaker can barely respond to actual points, but make emotional arguments ,mockery, and strawmans. Any reasonable person, taking note of the actual points being made by both speakers will and the responses being given to those can make the conclusions emselves. "That's not true." "There's no evidence." And so on... isn't a valid response to a claim backed up with a supposed evidence.

Zakir received a beat down in this. I pray it will help many come to Christ.

@ismailassenjee5914

Жыл бұрын

Your prayers are futile

@unityisnottrinity5402

Жыл бұрын

Brown is a fraud. He says prophet Muhammad not fitting the description and makes jokes about Muhammed "being in the deciples." But if you read John 14-15, Jesus says in the same verses that I will be in you. Clearly Jesus means his words and teachings, which Muslims follow. Islam is very similar to Jewish teachings. The teachings of prophet Muhammad was the new covanent and the old testament God is the same God as the Quran

@unityisnottrinity5402

Жыл бұрын

Zakir won this debate but most Christians don't understand his tactic. Zakir gave so many references to the bible is his debate and now all of the non-biased people can go back and learn the truth. JESUS DID NOT TEACH THE TRINITY. CHRISTIANITY IS ROMAN PAGANISM

@kingcarlos9380

Жыл бұрын

Zakir clearly won. He gave plenty of references to the bible and its up to the people to go back and read the verses. 👉 CHRISTIANITY IS A SCAM 👉 THE TRINITY IS FAKE

@casablancamarrakech

Жыл бұрын

Yes you are wrong. The Romans tried to crucify God's messiah and failed. Then they made up a FALSE PAGAN RELIGION to save themselves. Read the Old Testament. God's messiah cannot die. He will be untouched. Jesus Christ was saved by God. Jesus is a Muslim.

Thank the lord Jesus christ for this debate and the people putting it together. It was very much informative and needed for Christians to understand for apologetics. Thank you lord Jesus christ 🙏🏼

@khaledsadek6816

Жыл бұрын

You praise Jesus even though he was unable to protect himself from the Jews who allegedly slaughtered him in hymule on the cross. Do you not have a brain, Christian? And yet you revere God's messenger while ignoring God. If you didn't see how severely this Brown has been refuteded, you are entirely misgiuded, and perhaps you were watching another argument.😂

@thechosen7782

Жыл бұрын

I don't pick from the 3 persons of the trinity because there are all 1 . So, therefore, God created me . If you don't mind, can I ask you a question now about Islam??

@thechosen7782

Жыл бұрын

@معشر الشباب Here's my question, if the Quran was revealed orally by jibril then what did he ask Muhammad to read from??? If Quran was later compiled then what did he ask Muhammad to recite from if it was orally revealed?? Muhammad then replied I can't 3 times so what was it that he had that Muhammad could not read .

@khaledsadek6816

Жыл бұрын

@@thechosen7782 I don't believe you are qualified to ask questions because you lack sincerity, you elevated my prophet Jesus PBUH to the status of God despite the fact that he never made that claim and all of your scholars' attempts to include it in your book were unsuccessful, and you also insulted your GOD by associating partners with him. I would respond if I thought you were earnest and genuinely wanted to learn something, but unfortunately I don't think you are. Take a look at your response to the debate; it was blatantly obvious that Zakir disputed Dr. Brown on every issue, yet you still don't get it.

@chemnitzfan654

Жыл бұрын

​@@khaledsadek6816 See to it that no one takes you captive through philosophy and empty deception, according to the tradition of men, according to the elementary principles of the world, rather than according to Christ. For in Him all the fullness of Deity dwells in bodily form, and in Him you have been made complete, and He is the head over all rule and authority; and in Him you were also circumcised with a circumcision made without hands, in the removal of the body of the flesh by the circumcision of Christ; having been buried with Him in baptism, in which you were also raised up with Him through faith in the working of God, who raised Him from the dead. - Colossians 2:8-12

Dr. Brown only refuted Zakir's argument by his own interpretation and ignoring that Prophet Muhammad SAW fit the prophecis regarding Deuteronomy 18 and Isaiah 42. About the name MHMDM in Song 5:16, Dr. Brown only refuted by ridiculous analogy and ignoring the context of the passage. It's *not* the way to debate with logical arguments.

@tymon1928

5 ай бұрын

He did refute him, Deuteronomy 18 cannot be about Muhammad, Moses believed in theophany - muslims do not. The song of Salomon is such a bad argument 🥲😭

@Downlead

5 ай бұрын

@@tymon1928 Muslims do believe in theophany. The Song 5:16 is only a bad argument for non muslims because they don't have any reason to debunk how matching the Prophet PBUH to the verse context. Of course we don't argue only with the name, but also the context of the passage. And yes there are several word usages in bible regarding MHMDM for different contexts. So we don't argue for another context such as about a vessel or Ezeqiel's wife. The Song 5:16 doesn't talk about a vessel or Ezeqiel's wife.

@tymon1928

5 ай бұрын

@@Downleadyou believe Allah enters creation? Stop lying dude.

@Downlead

5 ай бұрын

@@tymon1928 It seems you have a very bad understanding about theophany. I hope you learn more to improve it. Theophany is about seeing actual God. In Surah An-Nisa 4:164: _"... And to Moses Allah spoke directly."_ Prophet Muhammad PBUH meets Allah in the _Sidratul Muntaha_ in the night of Mi'raj. Those are widely accepted believes in Islam. Hence, it matches the prophecy in Deuteronomy 18:18 (KJV) _"I will raise them up a Prophet from among their brethren, _*_like unto thee,_*_ ..."_

@tymon1928

5 ай бұрын

​@@Downlead oh really? Biblical theophany doesn't take place outside the creation - show me where Moses ascended to heaven to talk to God? It was always God coming to Moses not other way around. It's absolutely fine if you want to introduce new teology about theophanies but don't disrespect Moses and other Biblical Prophets. There's absolutely zero proof muhammad has any ancestory connection to Moses​. I really admire your faith because it really takes extra blind faith to believe that muhammad was flying on a buraq around the world🤣. When Moses met God he went to a certain spot, there was no need for magic to be involved. But of course, Muhammad had to be special and his encounter with god had to appeal to mystery. I admire you belief in myth but God won't be mocked.

"All that laughing on the holy spirit was jokes on you actually" 😂😂😂😂 may Allah ﷻ bless you brother Zakir wallah that made me giggle

@tiisetsothandile8420

Жыл бұрын

But how is it jokes on Christians if Muhammad is not found in the Bible?😂😂

@blueocean5070

Жыл бұрын

@@tiisetsothandile8420 Just like a Jew would tell you Jesus isn't in the OT, Christians are saying Muhammad ﷺ isn't in the Bible, so what? as brother Zakir mentioned, the prophecies that he mentioned make a stronger case than whatever Matthew & John were thinking by their vague prophecies and their changing of the biography of Jesus.

@seaside9670

Жыл бұрын

@@blueocean5070 so you are say PDF File Moe is not in the Holy Bible (OT & NT) and that Moe was a POS ???

@tiisetsothandile8420

Жыл бұрын

@@blueocean5070 I know, like Jews, you Muslims would rather go against your own book than to acknowledge Jesus Christ for who he truly is, but Isn't he the eternal word of God even in the Qur'an? The Qur'an teaches that Jesus Christ is the Messiah meaning you ought to agree that Jews are wrong about Jesus Christ- He is indeed Emmanuel the one talked about in the OT, the long awaited King who is, was, and is👑👏Dr Brown is right by suggesting that Muslims should just carrying on accusing the Bible of being corrupted as an excuse for not finding Muhammad(as a true prophet) in the Holy Bible rather than to struggle with scripture this bad, it's embarrassing.

@haikalsafrisam7818

Жыл бұрын

​@@tiisetsothandile8420 the Jews goes against Jesus way badly😂

Judging from the comments, most Muslims watched the debate with their device volumes off so I have endeavoured to summarize the key points for them. 1. Muslims claim that "among your brothers" refers to Muhammed. • Peter makes it clear that this prophecy by Moses is about Jesus Jesus, as we see in Acts 3: 22. Case closed! • The phrase “your brothers” occurs several times and ALWAYS REFERS TO Israelites. An example is when God instructed Israel to only choose kings from "among their brothers" and not from foreigners (Deuteronomy 17:14-15) • The uniqueness of Moses as prophet is specified in the Bible as his miracles and speaking to God face to face (Deuteronomy 34:10-12). Muhammed did none of these. • The prophet will prophesy in the name of YHWH, not Allah. 2. Muslims claim the comforter is Muhammed • The Comforter is the Holy Spirit (John14:26). • The Comforter is a spirit of truth Who was with the disciples and will be in them (John 14:17). • The 12 disciples knew him (14:17). • He was first promised to the 12 disciples (John 14:26). Did the disciples know Muhammed? Was he in them? • According to the Bible, Jesus sends the Helper (John 15:26, 16:14) IF MUHAMMED WERE THE COMFORTER, THEN THAT MEANS HE WAS SENT BY JESUS, MAKING JESUS GOD! 3. Muslims claim Muhammed is in Isaiah because Kedar (Arabia)was mentioned (Isaiah 42:10-11). • By that logic, Confucius is in the Bible because Sinim (China) was mentioned in Isaiah 49:12 4. Muslims claim Muhammed is in the song of songs because a similar sounding word "Mahamaddim" was used (5:16.) • Clearly, this is a love song by one of Solomon's lovers, NOT A PROPHECY. • But using that same logic, Muhammed is the beloved (Mahmad) wife of Ezekiel (24:16) and the crushed the darling (Mahamadde) offspring of Ephraim (Hosea 9:16). But hey, was it not Allah who said he only sends a prophet to his own people in t heir own language? (Surah 14:4)? Are Muslims now calling their prophet a liar?

@eistudiesl7193

Жыл бұрын

Peter doesn't say that the prophecy is about jesus...

@tachikoma7757

Жыл бұрын

The prophet will prophecy in the name of YHWH? And where in your NT shows Jesus ever prophecy in this name?

@JMJ-rb2ze

Жыл бұрын

Muslims 😂😂😂 🙏 😅 You need to repent and be baptized in the name of the Father the Son and the Holy Spirit🔥

@stoispapi2380

Жыл бұрын

Who are the brethrens of Israelites?

@tachikoma7757

Жыл бұрын

@@JMJ-rb2ze what is the name of the holy spirit?

Very good debate I must say Dr brown was brilliant i learnt alot.

@kate-224

Жыл бұрын

Unfortunately brown does not response to zakir's rebuttal...

@Ask-Isa

Жыл бұрын

​@@kate-224 Brown responded to everything Zakir said about Mohammad being in the Bible and refuted it using facts. Zakir kept trying to change the debate to if the Bible is unreliable

@lindsayfebruary9572

Жыл бұрын

@@kate-224 what debate were you watching zakir prepared for 6 years and still can't find Mohammad in the bible

@kate-224

Жыл бұрын

@@lindsayfebruary9572 what debate were you watching brown still preaching instead of answering questions...

@hereweare9096

Жыл бұрын

@@Ask-Isa Which is odd… because if Zakir thinks the Bible is unreliable that would then make any supposed reference to Mohammad .. unreliable… smh!! Lol

Thank you Zakir for showing the truth to people. Islam is the only path to God.

@dcfanboy68

Жыл бұрын

😂 are u blind?

@Iamcybermonster

11 ай бұрын

It's embarass to watch Muslim logic.

Just because he's old and he's trying to pay off his mortgage and he doesn't understand the language of the Semitic languages he is a non-believer he just wants to have his Hawaiian and his wine and his line all he wants is his swine in the book of Psalms they took the name Muhammad peace and blessings be upon him and switched it was altogether lovely in that

Amen. muhammad is not the bible, muslim cherry pick and have a book with fan fiction (dhul qarayn, cave sleepers, jesus making clay birds)

It was totally one sided. Like Dr Brown said it should never have been a debate. The Muslims' position was utterly destroyed

@purdess2.040

Жыл бұрын

Zakir won easily and he just made a 5 hoir stream where he completely further destroyed brown and exposed his missionary tactics.

There is such islamic tradition,?all are copied from the jewsih tradition

@Superw0rrio

9 ай бұрын

You are exactly correct! And it's not just Jewish and Christian tradition! islam is a Frankenstein of several pre-islamic religions. For example hajj and mecca are pagan practices of religions from before the time of muhammad.

@Mark-bl5ro

7 ай бұрын

​@@Superw0rrio Very true! It's an amalgamated bastardized version of all these religions.

Then God spoke all these words: I am the Lord your God, who brought you out of the land of Egypt, out of the house of slavery; 3 you shall have no other gods before me. You shall not make for yourself an idol, whether in the form of anything that is in heaven above, or that is on the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth. 5. You shall not bow down to them or worship them; for I the Lord your God am a jealous God, punishing children for the iniquity of parents, to the third and the fourth generation of those who reject me, but showing steadfast love to the thousandth generation of those who love me and keep my commandments. Exodus 20. 1-6 The person who sins shall die. A child shall not suffer for the iniquity of a parent, nor a parent suffer for the iniquity of a child; the righteousness of the righteous shall be his own, and the wickedness of the wicked shall be his own Ezekiel 18. 20 ?

Clearly Dr. Brown was the winner of this debate on every level. The facts of the scripture and the historical evidence was overwhelming that Zakir was outmatched and in over his head. Zakir stands in contradiction to reality and the truth of God’s very word.

Zakir was off topic. The topic was Muhammad in the Bible. Not if Jesus is God. DR Brown won this. You Muslim are salty 🧂

@purdess2.040

Жыл бұрын

Your deluded, zakir gave the double standard and set the standard early snd broke christian arrogance early so they could actually comprehend and understand his points. Brown didn’t even address many of zakirs points while Zakir throughly refuted everything. Stop being arrogant and prideful. Zakir took the W brown got another L.

@nsha1997

Жыл бұрын

Where did he discuss of Jesus is God? U clearly didn't listen to the whole debate.

@trevinowens70

Жыл бұрын

@@nsha1997 Where is your head at Dr Brown won this, no debate. Dude couldn’t stay on topic. Is Muhammad in the Bible? The answer is no. Dr Brown use showed us the Hebrew meaning behind the words. and went over the scripture multiple of times. The helper is the Holy Spirit. He use the letter of Paul and the gospel and the Old Testament, to prove the point. Muhammad is no where in the Bible. In Ezekiel 24:16, Ezekiel's wife is called "machmad," because she's treasured by Ezekiel. So if machmad means "Muhammad," Muhammad must have been Ezekiel's wife! Is that what any Muslim believes? Of course not. So why do Muslims keep telling us that machmad means "Muhammad"?

@alonzoharris9049

Жыл бұрын

@@trevinowens70 You are a typical Christian. The argument is not because the name is the same. You completely misrepresented the argument. Brown accepts fabricated and distorted passages in the NT as prophecies about the OT. He has no objective standards. He was a complete joke in the debate.

Thank you for uploading this video. It was a wonderful & respectful conversation both sides. I pray God will open the eyes to see the truth

@theg-men8961

Жыл бұрын

@Опровержение even if we say that you are correct and it is not Jesus, the prophet like Moses is still not muhammad. He never spoke in yaweh’s name, he did no miracles, he did not talk to God face to face. So it’s not Muhammad. Jesus is God and he came down and took on the form of a servant. You saying God cannot serve anyone means that God has limitations. How can you place limits on what God can and cannot do? It’s like a boss at work that comes and does the work of his workers. He does not have to do it but he does it because it’s necessary and that’s what Jesus did. And to get on the topic of Jesus, Jesus was a Jew and was presented to a Jewish temple, not a mosque or the Kaaba. This is a historical fact that Jesus was a Jew and not a Muslim. Jesus committed shirk over and over again. He said he’s one with Allah. He said his kingdom is not from this world. Is he an alien? No. He is God and heaven is his kingdom. He says he will answer our prayers. That he is lord of the sabbath. He said anyone who sees me sees Allah. That’s shirk so how could he be a prophet of Allah? Either he’s the worse prophet of Allah because he commits shirk, or, it’s because he’s not a Muslim and that’s the answer. It’s complete nonsense to include Jesus in islam and no one ever did until Muhammad. Muhammad simply tried to appease Jews and Christian’s to get them comfortable with converting and when he failed, he attacked them. He even included pagan Arab practices to appease the pagans so they convert which is why he allowed the prayer to allahs daughters and then said the devil tricked him. Allah was a pagan god and you can Google Allah statue and statues of allahs daughters and you can find what archeologists found. Muhammad was simply trying to make it easy to convert the people around him but had to make his religion a little bit unique.

@YouYou-sm8tf

Жыл бұрын

​@manhaju_salaf Jesus is God but He is The Son. Jesus worshipped and was a servant of His Father who is God as well. God is One but have 3 different members and each member is Divine.

@upondivineguidanceorder2548

Жыл бұрын

@@theg-men8961 In the Old Testament, Genesis, 21:21 it is said: "He (Prophet Ishmael) dwelt in the Wilderness of Paran; and his Mother took a wife for him from the land of Egypt." Psalm 83: 4-6 talks about the enemies of among others Ishmaelites, and Hagrites (Hagar being the mother of Prophet Ishmael). Psalm 84: 4-6 "4. Blessed are those who dwell in your House; They will still be praising You. 5. Blessed is the man whose strength is in You, whose heart is set on the pilgrimage. 6. As they pass through the valley of Baca. They make it a spring; The rain also covers it with pools." There are several interesting points in the above verses. The name Baca could be Hebrew whereas the word Makkah is Arabic. Added to this the fact that there is a designated House of God built by Abraham, peace be upon him, in Makkah where yearly pilgrimage was performed from the time of Abraham and Ishmael, peace be upon them both, even to this day. The valley of Baca could indeed be the same as the valley of Makkah. The above verses seem to place Hagar, Ishmael and their children in the valley of Makkah where Prophet Muhammad, peace and blessing of God be upon him, was born. Isaiah, 21:12-17 mentions "12 ... In the forest in Arabia you will lodge ... 15 For they fled from the swords , from the drawn sword, from the bent bow, and from the distress of war." (Probable connection with the enemies mentioned in Psalm 83: 4-6 quoted above; also settlement in Arabia is confirmed; the verse 16 which follows, also confirms these verses are about Ishmaelites, Kedar being the 2nd son of Prophet Ishmael). "16. For thus the Lord ... all the glory of Kedar will fall. 17. And the remainder ... people of Kedar will be diminished ... " Isaiah 42:1-13 - These are very moving verses about "God's elect servant" who will bring forth justice to the Gentiles. A point worth noting is that Gentiles are the non-Jews and it was confirmed by Jesus, peace be upon him, that he was sent to the Jews. Moreover Muhammad, peace and blessings of God be upon him, is consistently named by God as Mustafa which means 'elected' and 'Abd' which means 'servant'. Prophet Muhammad always referred to himself consistently as the 'Servant of God'logically speaking, if I wanted to ask about the place where any famous historical figure lived, the most correct information I shall get would be from this figure’s people or tribe and offspring, for they would be the ones most knowing of his history. If I wanted to learn about Queen Elizabeth, where she lived and where she was buried, I would ask the English people, not the Chinese. Since Ishmael P.B.U.H. was the father of Arabs and one of the most famous figures in their history, therefore the Arab tribes are the ones who are most knowing of the place where he lived, not anyone else. As inherited by all Arab tribes, even before the advent of Islam by centuries, Ishmael lived and died in the place they call “Makkah,” and he built the sacred mosque there with his father Abraham at the sanctuary called “Bakkah.”Blessings of Ishmael and Isaac Was the first born son of Abraham (Ishmael) and his descendants included in God's covenant and promise? A few verses from the Bible may help light on this question: Genesis 12:2-3 speaks of God's promise to Abraham and his descendants before any child was born to him. Genesis 17:4 reiterates God's promise after the birth of Ishmael and before the birth of Isaac. In Genesis, Ch. 21, Isaac is specifically blessed but Ishmael was also specifically blessed and promised by God to become a "great nation" in Genesis 21:13,18. According to Deuteronomy 21:15-17 the traditional rights and privileges of the first born son are not to be affected by the social status of the mother (being a "free" woman such as Sarah, Isaac's mother, or a "Bondwoman" such as Hagar, Ishmael's mother). This is only consistent with the moral and humanitarian principles of all revealed faiths. The full legitimacy of Ishmael as Abraham's son and "seed" and the full legitimacy of his mother, Hagar, as Abraham's wife are clearly stated in Genesis 21:13 and 16:3. After Jesus, the last Israelite prophet, it was time that God's promise to bless Ishmael and his descendants be fulfilled. Less than 600 years after Jesus, came the last messenger of God, Muhammad, from the progeny of Abraham through Ishmael. God's blessing of both of the main branches of family tree was now fulfilled. But is there additional corroborating evidence that the Bible did in fact foretell the advent of prophet Muhammad?The Awaited Prophet was to Come from Arabia Deuteronomy 33:1-2 combines references to Moses, Jesus and Muhammad. It speaks of God (i.e. God's revelation) coming from Sinai, rising from Seir (probably the village of Sa'ir near Jerusalem) and shining forth from Paran. According to Genesis 21:21, the wilderness of Paran was the place where Ishmael settled (i.e. Arabia, specifically Makkah). Indeed the King James Version of the Bible mentions the pilgrims passing through the valley of Ba'ca (another name for Makkah) in Psalms 84:4-6. Isaiah 42:1-13 speaks of the beloved of God. His elect and messenger who will bring down a law to be awaited in the isles and who "shall not fail nor be discouraged till he have set judgement on the earth." Verse 11 connects that awaited one with the descendants of Ke'dar. Who is Ke'dar? According to Genesis 25:13, Ke'dar was the second son of Ishmael, the ancestor of prophet Muhammad. Muhammad's Migration from Makkah to Madinah: Prophesied in the Bible? Habakkuk 3:3 speaks of God (God's help) coming from Te'man (an Oasis North of Madinah according to J. Hasting's Dictionary of the Bible), and the holy one coming from Paran. That holy one who was under persecution migrated from Paran (Makkah) to be received enthusiastically in Madinah was none but prophet Muhammad. Indeed the incident of the migration of the prophet and his persecuted followers is vividly described in Isaiah 21:13-17. That section foretold as well about the battle of Badr in which the few ill-armed faithful miraculously defeated the "mighty" men of Ke'dar, who sought to destroy Islam and intimidate their own folks who turned to Islam.

@wisdomofislamm

Жыл бұрын

@@theg-men8961 So much nonsense in one comment. Even atheists have better knowledge about God than christians like you. 1) Jesus never spoke in yaweh's name either. And Zakir literally answered this question in debate. I don't think you even watch debate. 2) Prophet Muhammad ﷺ did not do any miracles?! You must be idiot to say this. We have his 300 miracles recorded in hadith. Educate yourself. 3) He did talk with God face to face. 🤦‍♂️ he literally went to heaven and spoke with God face to face. 4) saying God can't do certain things is putting limitations to God? Seriously? Let me ask question, dummy. Can God cease to exist? Can God do sin? Can God lie? Can God be all hate and zero loving? 5) We don't accept your books. Quoting your corrupted text to show Jesus Christ wasn't Muslim to Muslim is insane stupidity. 6) You are waffler. We call people like you arrogant ignorant. You don't know anything yet you claim many things. Kid go back to home. Class dismissed

@kd12342

Жыл бұрын

@@theg-men8961 well explained brother. But there is one flaw... Jesus said anyone who sees me sees the Father* and not Allah. Don't get mistaken by any means that Allah means God. Allah is satan so don't substitute our scripture's words God and father with Allah.

The debate is finally here 😃

@mvagustav3654

Жыл бұрын

Double standard of Christian's

@shafiekalia8200

9 ай бұрын

And he got cooked

@shafiekalia8200

9 ай бұрын

The muslim got cooked

Bob got b 👋 slapped

Truth with quotes reference (Zakir) vs sugar coated dialogue (brown)

I still don’t understand, Muslim constantly tells us that our *corrupt* Bible is corrupt, how then do you say your prophets are in our Bible. I have never met a true believer Christian who thinks that our Bible is mentioned in koran.

@bourbon4707

Жыл бұрын

Thats Muslims hobby, attacking Bible to prove Muhammad, because Muhammad never exist in the Bible. But we Christian never attack Tanakh because Tanakh talking about Jesus The Messiah

@alonzoharris9049

Жыл бұрын

Michael Brown does that. Have you read his book? He uses the Talmud and Targums to ‘prove’ Christianity.

@orangemanbad

5 ай бұрын

Yet their quran says the Torah and gospel are correct in 642 AD which was established already for centuries lol.

@Tommy-lf8sl

Ай бұрын

​@@alonzoharris9049 So what?...... Michael brown is a Messianic Jew he can do that because he is a Jewish scholar.

Dr. Brown is so bold and loud - because he speaking inspired by the Holy Spirit. He reading the Holy Bible and telling the ruth. In first 10 minutes he proved that Jesus Christ is the God.

@BlackJ1234

11 ай бұрын

90 percent correct

@SoYouAreB

11 ай бұрын

@@BlackJ1234 100% correct. There is no place for Is-Lame in the Holy Bible.

@BlackJ1234

11 ай бұрын

@@SoYouAreB 90 only kiddo... the last part of ur statement is very debatable & confusing.... Jesus is the "GOD" do u mean he is Yahweh? coz christians r so divided on the matter

@SoYouAreB

11 ай бұрын

@@BlackJ1234 You are confused about your Book of Know Less. How you'll understand the Holy Bible, you Big Boy?

@BlackJ1234

11 ай бұрын

@@SoYouAreB DO u know the bible? If u do ... answer this ... Jesus call yahweh Father... he also told man kind to call god father... we r children of god.. jesus is also a child of god... in that context he is not yahweh ... he is the son of yahweh ... just like human r the children of yahweh ... how do u explain this

Dr Brown wasn't ready for a street fight

@lendawg6096

Жыл бұрын

Nah, he just carpet bombed Zakir

@seaside9670

Жыл бұрын

@@lendawg6096 Zakir Hussain threw cotton balls and the falsehoods of Deedat. Dr. Brown had the nuclear weapons of Truth, Logic and Reason.

Why were the Jews were looking for the last prophet in Arabia, they could have gone to more comfortable places in the world after the exile, but they went to the land of hardship and scorching arabian desert to find the last prophet

@itiswritten9423

Жыл бұрын

Don't be silly. The Jews were dispersed in many countries of the world. They were in Africa, Europe, Arabia, Persia etc

@youwhat491

Жыл бұрын

@@itiswritten9423 why arabian desert, there are no rivers, no civilisation before islam, the nation was unlettered to the core, besides the kabah no landmarks and monuments to look at no unified governence, tribal warfare was rife,

@itiswritten9423

Жыл бұрын

@@youwhat491 You siad the Jews where looking for the last prophet in the Arabian desert. My question to you is this - Mention a single Jew that was looking for their last prophet on the Arabian desert. SHow me a single source

@youwhat491

Жыл бұрын

@@itiswritten9423 ibn Haiybaan was an ancient jew who reminded the Jews why they were in arabia at all, a yeminite king known as Tubba converted to judaism, when he came to invade medina when he found out his son was murdered there, two rabbis went to him saying the last of all prophet would arrive there and for his safety and wellbeing, leave the city alone, on his deathbed left a letter to be handed to the prophet informing him he believe in him and longed to meet him purchased some land for the disposal of the prophet.

@ZA90224

Жыл бұрын

@@itiswritten9423 Jesus already warned about that one [false prophet] in the desert or coming from the desert.

Islam takes another "L" - hard to get a "W" when the thing is based on lies and deception since its beginning.

I was waiting to see brother Zakir Hussain again at least somewhere as i coulnd't find any social media or anything new other than the debates and videos of him 7-9 years ago. Barakallahu Feek

@chuck1t700

Жыл бұрын

He's on Twitter akhi

@lendawg6096

Жыл бұрын

It must suck to wait so long to watch him, just to see him get schooled by Dr. Brown

@seaside9670

Жыл бұрын

@@lendawg6096 he was preparing for this silliness for 7 years and lost it with 2 minutes of Dr. Brown speaking

@Randomhandlename

Жыл бұрын

Dr brown got schooled and doesn’t answer questions and stays silent when confronted during rebuttals. We don’t know where and who the Bible came from it has contradictions and errors

@RejectTheMoonGod101

Жыл бұрын

Let us see if Zakir is brave enough to try again in another debate with Dr Brown. I expect he will run!!!

DEAR MUSLIMS... pliz read those books before u blindly support... coz if u actually read those passages ... u will be embarrassed that there is even a discussion ... and that its actually an insult 2 ur Muhammad

48:33 videomark

I'm so excited watching you demolished the alleged prophecy of Muhammad in the Bible Dr Brown ❤❤❤ more grace

@alzabur6330

Жыл бұрын

Sorry but he didn't demolish anyone,that is your bias opinion, instead he just spew rethoric, he really wanted to make it seems like jews and Christians seem like they agree with each other but that is not true

@abdullahassaffah

Жыл бұрын

He lost this debate and couldn't even answer anything he just strawman every question and got caught out

@joemacarra

Жыл бұрын

@@abdullahassaffah what debate did you watch😅😅?

@ivanjuarez1160

Жыл бұрын

@@alzabur6330 if you don’t think brown won this easily I dare say you are lying

@zu7t785

Жыл бұрын

​@@joemacarrawhy are you so bline😢...watch and hear it again and again till you got what they said

Jesus said, you shall know the truth, and the truth shall set you free! Thanks, Dr Brown for upholding the plain and clear truth of the Bible.

@MenkIsAMubtadiiDeobandi

Жыл бұрын

the father is greater than I; no one in the heavens or the earth knows the hour except the father. Allah says Jesus and his mother Mary used to eat food meaning they were humans and not deities for worship

@gabrielaprofetaphillips1740

Жыл бұрын

@@MenkIsAMubtadiiDeobandi yes as a man Jesus did all those things. Blessings

@MenkIsAMubtadiiDeobandi

Жыл бұрын

@@gabrielaprofetaphillips1740 Yes he did those things, but why did he curse a tree that didnt bear fruit for him when he wanted to eat? jesus said no one knows the hour except the father, showing that they aren't equal. How can 3 separate independent entities have knowledge that the other doesnt have? blessings to u in this life may allah guide you to truth

@Meiran._

Жыл бұрын

​@Gabriela Profeta Phillips Jesus is truly amazing. Almighty God &Prince of Peace ❤

@MenkIsAMubtadiiDeobandi

Жыл бұрын

@@Meiran._ Jesus is a blessed prophet of the lord Allah , but according to the bible he wasnt a prince of peace as he said "I have not come to bring peace but the sword; bring my enemies before me and slaughter them"