DEBATE Have markets in China gone too far (w Alan Freeman)

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In this video, we ask economist Alan Freeman of ‪@InternationalManifesto‬ about what he means by heterodox economics. He defines it as a body of economic thought opposed to orthodox equilibrium-based neoclassical economics. We ask him further about his thoughts on classical economists like Smith and Ricardo and whether he considers them within the body of heterodox economic thought. We also ask him about his new work that argues that it is impossible to understand capitalism without imperialism. Finally, we have a friendly debate about whether markets in China have gone too far. We also discuss the India-China relationship from a Left perspective.
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  • @IndiaGlobalLeft
    @IndiaGlobalLeft3 ай бұрын

    Guys, we want to work full-time on this, but our financial woes keep us pushing away. If your wallet allows please drop us some support. We prefer the PayPal method since we don't lose half of the money, but you can also give us a super chat. If you are a large donor, we would obviously get in touch with you to give something back if we can. But if you can't no worries. Please subscribe, share, and like. That means a lot already.

  • @davidsantos392
    @davidsantos3923 ай бұрын

    Right! I'm at 44m10s and what Alan said in the next few seconds, by itself, is worth neverending kudos... "I must stop saying America.." I've been arguing that for ages with people around me. America is a continent, not a country. To call America to the states is colonial based illegitimate appropriation. This conversation is extremely informative. Thank you IGL and Mr. Freeman✊🏼

  • @fun_ghoul

    @fun_ghoul

    Ай бұрын

    Exonyms suck. Nobody should say "America", period.

  • @shaundudley4576
    @shaundudley45763 ай бұрын

    Excellent! Alan with his usual charm and lucidity was a joy to listen to. The interviewer was very good indeed. But his take on the Indian hatred of all things China was very weak. The hysterical virulence speaks to some profound malady in the Indian body politic. I would really like to get a proper analysis of this phenomenon.

  • @antiimperialist-li7oy
    @antiimperialist-li7oy3 ай бұрын

    Excellent discussions, excellent questions. Thanks for the honest and intelligent questions.

  • @IosefDzhugashvili
    @IosefDzhugashvili3 ай бұрын

    Really great interview. Fantastic questions and as always Mr. Freeman is a delight to listen to.

  • @presterjohn1697
    @presterjohn16973 ай бұрын

    Subscribed. This was really good. Salute.

  • @TheYoungtrust
    @TheYoungtrust3 ай бұрын

    I wish all "debates" where like this, I learned a alot.

  • @ja9.b73
    @ja9.b733 ай бұрын

    Edit: this was originally a comment that appeared to criticise this channel. But KZread posted it in error. I must have been in autoplay mode and not realised it moved into this video from the other channel while I was writing. Instead of deleting the comment and losing the comments in reply (as this channel is great and could use the traffic); I've just removed the original text and edited it to this.

  • @shaundudley4576

    @shaundudley4576

    3 ай бұрын

    Yes! The Indians have a lot of explaining to do about their grotesque stance on this.

  • @abe8435

    @abe8435

    3 ай бұрын

    Is this a troll? They’ve made tons of videos on Gaza. They interviewed Finkelstein, Clare Daly, Vijay Prashad. Many others

  • @IosefDzhugashvili

    @IosefDzhugashvili

    3 ай бұрын

    Did you miss their last video?

  • @rallypojken

    @rallypojken

    3 ай бұрын

    Moderate moderate moderate

  • @ja9.b73

    @ja9.b73

    3 ай бұрын

    Sorry, all. This was written in response to a Robert Reich video and KZread must have posted it under here. I think it was just moving over to this video and that's why it happened. Reich just posted a video calling for a ceasefire, which is good, but it is the first video on the subject in four months and really not near enough. So, I'll leave the original comment up for an hour or so, so people can understand my apology. And then I'll delete it. This channel has been really good on this issue and there was no intent to throw any shade. Thanks for your hard work, it is so appreciated!

  • @rallypojken
    @rallypojken3 ай бұрын

    Another tour-de-force from IGL!!! Thanks from Sweden!

  • @AnandKumar-hs2nd
    @AnandKumar-hs2nd3 ай бұрын

    please have him more , he has one of the best Marxist explanations of the ongoing phenomenon's

  • @cheekhoonchan1627
    @cheekhoonchan16273 ай бұрын

    re: IPR, Cuban biotech scientists shared that Fidel almost threw a fit when he first learnt that they intended to file for patents for some of their early biotech innovations. They eventually managed to persuade him that it was "defensive patenting" to forestall any IPR claims jumping by (profit-driven) third parties.

  • @id2ii

    @id2ii

    3 ай бұрын

    welll how did it go? Seems like Cuba is slowly moving towards state capitalism as well.

  • @carpediem44

    @carpediem44

    3 ай бұрын

    Cuban biotechnologists were correct. I'm glad they protected their innovations.

  • @nickprobst6841
    @nickprobst68413 ай бұрын

    This has clarified so many things for me. Just subscribed. Thank you.

  • @IndiaGlobalLeft

    @IndiaGlobalLeft

    3 ай бұрын

    Thanks. Solidarity. ✊

  • @DMGrass-gb9kg
    @DMGrass-gb9kg3 ай бұрын

    Thank you!

  • @stanbimi
    @stanbimi18 күн бұрын

    What are the key ideas explored in this one hour 22 minutes video? Would like to see time markers for each segment.

  • @presterjohn1697
    @presterjohn16973 ай бұрын

    Consider having journalist, Matt Kennard on as a guest.

  • @rallypojken
    @rallypojken3 ай бұрын

    Thanks

  • @IndiaGlobalLeft

    @IndiaGlobalLeft

    3 ай бұрын

    Thank you

  • @carpediem44
    @carpediem443 ай бұрын

    @jamysmith7891 Lockheed Martin, Raytheon, and their shareholders would disagree that defense spending is "pointless."

  • @lunaridge4510
    @lunaridge45103 ай бұрын

    I have emailed them a few times asking about how to pay for the membership. No answers. . .

  • @IndiaGlobalLeft

    @IndiaGlobalLeft

    3 ай бұрын

    Hi we haven't received any email from you. You can press the join button near the subscribe button to join as a member. We do like to interact with our members a lot. If you just want to donate, you may use the paypal, link to which is in the description of every video. Let me know!

  • @ilhamrahim9269
    @ilhamrahim92693 ай бұрын

    Could you try to get Michael Heinrich on?

  • @IndiaGlobalLeft

    @IndiaGlobalLeft

    3 ай бұрын

    Sure, that would be grea他。 We are already in talks with David Harvey and he will be on our show. We will reach out to Heinrich too, that would be incredible.

  • @fayadkhairallah2760
    @fayadkhairallah27603 ай бұрын

    Yeah but how far is too far😮

  • @jamysmith7891
    @jamysmith78913 ай бұрын

    The Imperialist economies stopped warring with one another because the US subjugated them all in the settlement of WW2, the Soviets not being imperial in the Western-Japanese sense Economic interdependence, not simple trade, puts an end to war, War continues under US authority because it deliberately disrupts any interdependency that isn’t centered on itself; Look at the US-China situation, the US wants to make trouble but it’s completely dependent on China and nothing’s going to come of Taiwan but a few billion in pointless defense spending

  • @0MVR_0
    @0MVR_03 ай бұрын

    one might ask what makes this a debate

  • @fun_ghoul

    @fun_ghoul

    Ай бұрын

    Freeman is a Trot. 🤣

  • @0MVR_0

    @0MVR_0

    Ай бұрын

    @@fun_ghoul as in to say, he specifically opposes the capability for socialism to defend itself against belligerence.

  • @anopinionatedlaymanappears9052
    @anopinionatedlaymanappears90523 ай бұрын

    1:07:02 That would be Keynesian though not Socialist. That doesn't explain who's side of the class war they are on. If anything it suggests they are social "democrats".

  • @anopinionatedlaymanappears9052

    @anopinionatedlaymanappears9052

    3 ай бұрын

    @@borisnegrarosa9113 It seems you are either pro-china or anti-china. There is no nuance apparently.

  • @anopinionatedlaymanappears9052

    @anopinionatedlaymanappears9052

    3 ай бұрын

    @@borisnegrarosa9113 Chill dude. I didn't say my statement was nuanced. I was saying they lack nuance, but really I mean there is little more than anti or pro perspectives on the issue.

  • @anopinionatedlaymanappears9052

    @anopinionatedlaymanappears9052

    3 ай бұрын

    @@borisnegrarosa9113 Okay I was being nice. You can fuck off now because I don't waste my time on the cuntish 🙌

  • @Levittchen4G
    @Levittchen4G3 ай бұрын

    Idk whom Alan is arguing with xD I never heard anyone say that slave labour didn't produce value or smth like that

  • @wolfganghomola1375

    @wolfganghomola1375

    3 ай бұрын

    Robert Brenner. It is called the “Brenner Debate” (a debate about the origins of capitalism; a similar debate, earlier on, was the Dobb-Sweezy-debate). If you watch the first 12 min of this video, you shoud get a pretty good idea what the debate was about kzread.info/dash/bejne/Z6iGpbCmnbK_ZMY.html (Rejecting Eurocentric Marxism and the Brenner Thesis: Interview with Andy Higginbottom). See also: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brenner_debate

  • @fun_ghoul

    @fun_ghoul

    Ай бұрын

    He literally told you who said it.

  • @irinabass1655
    @irinabass16553 ай бұрын

    "Russia is not an empire", hahahaha! Tell that to numerous enslaved (and extinct) neighbouring nations (those who are beyond the limits of Pskov and Vladimir oblast, which is all Russia. Trll this to former USSR republics 😂 what a massive BS😅

  • @fun_ghoul

    @fun_ghoul

    Ай бұрын

    Hush, Banderist.

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