I always preferred the trails on the tardigrades... honestly i thought that was how it was supposed to be until I learned it was a bug lol

@mh_koushik4130

2 жыл бұрын

Same.

@nicoblier6624

2 жыл бұрын

Okay, so happy to hear this. Always thought it looked so much better than the intended effect.

@processedsoy

2 жыл бұрын

me too. i thought dlss was messing it up and then to find out it wasnt intented lol

@gamecuber23

2 жыл бұрын

same here!

@hothiscold00008

2 жыл бұрын

Yup, same.

The PS5 is a price to performance monster. These consoles are sooo much better compared to current hardware than the last gen consoles were at the time its not even funny.

@baronsengir187

2 жыл бұрын

gpu prices are too damn high ^^

@aeztral

2 жыл бұрын

I got my PS5 during the preorder period for 499€ and it’s my favorite purchase in recent memory. The money I’d have to invest to have a pc that can run these games the same way as the PS5 is so so much higher.

@cascadesequence7307

2 жыл бұрын

True - it's remarkable. Still, the value is offset by the new £70 standard for games, along with the push towards digital and subsequent absence of resell value.

@paulszki

2 жыл бұрын

@@cascadesequence7307 But you CAN still buy physical. My approach for Forbidden West was to get it cheap (PS4 version in this case, because the upgrade to PS5 is free), play through it in a reasonably short time, as the hype still lasts ( I still took something like two or three weeks because I don't get to play each and every day) and then resold it for like 10 bucks cheaper on the secondary market. So in essence I paid 10€ to experience a great game for about 100+ hours. I'm currently doing the same with a couple of other games I bought second hand, which I plan to resell for nearly the same price afterwards. This obviously doesn't work for multiplayer games but then again, I'm having trouble thinking of a multiplayer game that came out in the last couple of years that is not free and also not absolute Garbage at launch that I MUST HAVE and spend 70 to 80 bucks on. By the time stuff like, say, Battlefield 2042 is actually worth playing, it'll be dirt cheap or even on EA Play. So although I still like my (aging) PC quite a bit, Gamepass Ultimate for my PC and Series X and PS Plus on my PS5 in addition to my new favourite Strategy for new Sony Exlusive releases means that I'm spending between 20-30€ on gaming per month, which is pretty cheap for playing basically almost anything you like.

@RyanBurnsRed

2 жыл бұрын

The GPUs tested here are last gen GPUs though. 2080 was released in 2018. If it weren't for the pandemic and other factors decimating the market it would hardly be a fair contest comparing the console to actual current hardware (RTX 3000 and RX 6000 series) for the price

Those loading time clearly show why DirectStorage is required on PC in order to take full advantage of those NVMe drives. Also, it's nice to see PS5 performing pretty close to an RTX 3060 Ti.

@fpstechtesting7653

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah, we desperately need direct storage, my poor 7GB/s drive is just waiting to be unleashed.

@mrcraggle

2 жыл бұрын

Unfortunately still need to wait on GPU decompression.

@degenplanet

2 жыл бұрын

loading time is already low, but still nice to take ofc, would be more interesting for future games design (ie. bigger maps without narrow corridors) but they must support old slow storage (hope they drop hdd support at some point) so not for tomorrow. Also performance is good but as Alex says, this game is probably not hitting cpu too hard and no RT use so best case scenario for ps5.

@SEMARPE

2 жыл бұрын

@@mrcraggle DirectStorage is still good w/o it.

@mathdantastav2496

2 жыл бұрын

meh, 10 secounds is more than long enough. Not saying that direct storage is bad, no, its awesome, but if my loading times are less than 15 secounds, honestly, I don't care anymore, its low enough

I feel like this consoles of this generation are the closest to matching the generation's PCs in performance better than any previous generation of consoles so far, the performance of the PS5 and Series X are finally at a level where I would actually consider a console over a PC for gaming purposes.

@TheFreeToaster

2 жыл бұрын

You mean considering the consoles only compare to the previous generation of GPU's and currently can't compete with the majority of the rtx 3000 lineup which is on the verge of already being replaced. The new consoles are great, but only comparing to 2018 hardware in 2022 isn't an achievement

@sachoslks

2 жыл бұрын

@@TheFreeToaster It is when you consider the price of said hardware.

@adrianhosein7698

2 жыл бұрын

@@TheFreeToaster Those GPU on their OWN cost MORE than an arm and a leg, you aren't even considering the price of the rest of the hardware.

@TheFreeToaster

2 жыл бұрын

@@adrianhosein7698 so we're pretending like the chip shortage and scalper situation didn't also just have people spending 3-4 times the price for consoles with the consoles still going for $300+ more than their current value. You can spare the anecdote about how you got one for msrp, the majority of everyone who purchased hardware in the past year vastly overpaid.

@adrianhosein7698

2 жыл бұрын

@@TheFreeToaster the total price is still less than a PC.

I really like playing this with the haptic feedback controller on PS5. You can feel the weight from the cargo you carry :)

@TerraWare

2 жыл бұрын

That's cool. They've added Dual Sense support on the Directors Cut on pc too apparently.

@bobdole2184

2 жыл бұрын

I know ghost wire Tokyo and this game on PC is finally taking advantage of the dual sense I have after like two years

@SC0RPI0NFURY

2 жыл бұрын

That's one of the things i really like about the Playstation 5. Next year it's about to get even more immersive as we will be able to physically feel the sensation of being headshotted because of the haptics inside the PS VR2 headset 😄 You might also even experience looking the purpetrator dead on right in the eyes in a online vr mp shooter only seconds before he blows your head off because of the built-in eye-tracking tracking the players pupils. This gen is gonna be something else lol

@TerraWare

2 жыл бұрын

@@bobdole2184 Yup. I bought the starlight blue controller the other day to check it out on Ghostwire and it's pretty cool. I like how the raindrops and sounds feel on the controller but don't know how much I like the stiffening of the trigger when you use the bow. It feels like it would get in the way if you had to spam the arrows but the sensitivity is adjustable so that's nice. I suck aiming with a controller on first person games but can see it being quite immersive with Death Stranding. Will have to grab the update later and check it out.

@AndreFreitas91250

2 жыл бұрын

I think this is the best application in any game that i've seen to this feature (except astros playroom)

Would have loved to have seen at least 1 current gen GPU from Nvidia and AMD tested like the 3060 or 6600 to see how their newer architectures perform in this title vs last gen.

@2drealms196

2 жыл бұрын

Weird they don't supply Alex with one. He's their raytracing guy afterall.

@juu226

2 жыл бұрын

yeah, laptop with 3060 runs better than 2080d on geforce now with exact same settings (cyberpunk benchmark).

@CLabmusic

2 жыл бұрын

Same here. I guess when dealing with consoles, its not fair to compare them to current PC builds even when they're fairly new consoles. Consoles will always be behind

@GameslordXY

2 жыл бұрын

@@CLabmusic What's your point? Many PC GPUs are behind many other PC GPUs. Not everyone has RTX3090 or better. 6900XT beats it in rasterisation. Or did last time I checked months ago. Maybe something changed. Though with DLSS,for sure 3090 wipes the floor with it. But 6900XT is so mighty,that there are very few scenarios that it would truly benefit from something like DLSS in terms of performance. Off course , few years from now,6900XT could benefit significantly from DLSS-like tech. Who knows, perhaps Nvidia shall licence the tech to AMD and Intel if it proves superior long term.

@CLabmusic

2 жыл бұрын

@@GameslordXY i was agreeing with the op that it would've been cool to see a 3060 or 6700xt(my card) in the mix or in a future video. I also was saying that I understood what choices they made for this video since a PC with a 3060 or higher would probably not be a fair comparison to a current gen consoles performance

This one of those unexpected games that I never thought I’d love so much, from the lore the characters and the soundtrack…. It’s much more than a UPS/ FedEx simulator lol

@CLabmusic

2 жыл бұрын

I agree. That moment when you first come out of that ravine death trap and that field is layed out in front of you and the music starts.....

@user-ci3xc5bz5h

2 жыл бұрын

Agreed. Incredibly immersive and far more complex than many would think.

@adriantrusca1245

2 жыл бұрын

No, it's not. Lol. It's a boring and weird fucking game. Lol. Complete waste of time. Lol. Lol.

@phillydavison

2 жыл бұрын

It's like Marmite because I thought it was the most boring game I've ever played 🤷 happy others enjoyed it.

@CLabmusic

2 жыл бұрын

@@adriantrusca1245 there are plenty of shooty shooty bang bang games out there for you and the other mouth breathers

Tflops aren't a good measurement of performance. If that were the case then an rtx 3060 would beat an rtx 2080. But the 2080 is any where from 10-20% faster in 1440p

This really does highlight how amazing the PS5 is able to perform at just $499.

@brando3342

2 жыл бұрын

If you can find one!

@aideyp7333

2 жыл бұрын

Which is why I think a so called PS5 Pro or Series X Pro are just pie in the sky for now. Neither can get the components to fulfill current machines, plus probably selling at a loss

@TylerTron21

2 жыл бұрын

Honestly I am shocked. I like my PS5 even more now. For anyone with issues getting one there was a Discord where a guy watches stock drops on the PlayStation official site. I bought one direct from them over a year ago. No issues, no tax, no shipping. MSRP.

@billygunn6185

2 жыл бұрын

$399 you mean

@guily6669

2 жыл бұрын

I always knew it, its basically just a bit lower RX6600XT except at the end it probably outperforms it easily 4 high resolutions on well optimized games since the RX6600XT has poor memory bandwidth in comparison to the PS5. The problem is I still don't have a PS5... I surely had quite a few chances at normal prices, but I really want is PS5 digital with nothing else included and they always shove me games, controllers and even crap like 5 year extended warranty that I don't want making the console to go to quite above 500€ for the 399€ console I exactly want. ps: I wish there was Sony direct here in my country cause I won the chance to buy a digital one from Sony Direct but it's from US so I can't buy it, I registered there and only after I read it was only for US, but I actually received a mail after some time but just ignored it...

If nothing else, this video does serve as a reminder that, in purely gaming terms, the PS5 offers a very nice value proposition.

@maxminy5634

2 жыл бұрын

At $400 the digital version is pretty much best performance per dollar you can get.

@GameslordXY

2 жыл бұрын

If you can get it at that price,yes

@lasarousi

2 жыл бұрын

@@maxminy5634 I haven't seen a single ps5 that isn't over 600 online and 800 irl.

@johnf.r6658

2 жыл бұрын

@@lasarousi I paid 750 dollars for the disc one in 2020 and a PC remotely similar was 1500 or more, obviously you can do much more things with a computer

@lasarousi

2 жыл бұрын

@@johnf.r6658 I can upgrade my PC for around 500 to outpace the ps5, you know you don't have to build an entire PC to update your gaming experience right? Anyways, the ps5 is the better value for the buck IF you find it under 500 and you are 4k ready. Although all sources also recommend dropping another 150 buckets for a good SSD for the ps5, even DF.

The price per performance of the ps5 is unreal never would imagine the distortion would get this high due to the PC parts and GPU price gouging but even before this happened the price performance ratio heavily favours the consoles

@GameslordXY

2 жыл бұрын

Unless you were/are just upgrading your GPU over getting everything new. In that case,even RTX2060 at its 300$ MSRP (In USA)would be able to beat , if not crush PS5 , due to DLSS. And if you were also upgrading CPU from something ancient to R7 2700X or R5 3600, it would cost you 500$ or less BEFORE prices jumped. In theory weaker than PS5,however in practice more powerful in most situations. For now. And no need for the very expensive Gen 4 NVME SSDs. 2.5" SATA 3 SSDs are MORE than sufficient at this point. So from upgrading perspective consoles aren't necessarily cheaper. It really depends on various factors.

@riccardocattozzo2579

2 жыл бұрын

A console is not a PC and can't do what a PC does. Such limitations lead to a relatively low price

@Actualchristianity

2 жыл бұрын

@@riccardocattozzo2579 …lol

@corey_massey

2 жыл бұрын

Its sad that some PC gamers will read this comment as a reason to try to bash the PS5 instead of looking at the fact that the more powerful consoles are, the better multiplatform games can be on PC. One platform doesn't have to be bad so that the other can be good. End of the day people who prefer consoles are going to get a PS5 and people who prefer PC are going to get a PC. No amount of fanboy slander on either side will change these people minds.

@libi0428

2 жыл бұрын

@@corey_massey spot on.

I see death stranding I click. I love this game

It’s crazy how the PS5 in this game is as good as an rtx 2080 super. Very impressive.

@gameskyjumper1721

2 жыл бұрын

And we only have to pay $500 for this baby. Crazy, right?

@daveleebond

2 жыл бұрын

@Salt Maker I can upgrade a GPU your PS5 is stuck with that mediocre APU.

@PeterPauls

2 жыл бұрын

​@Salt Maker If we talk about cross platform titles, I'm sure that if you can run something on PS5, you will able to run on an RTX 2080 Super, if for you will be enough the "console" quality. And the RTX 2080 Super already far superior in Ray Tracing than the PS5. So in the end, as the rumors says, it will be a PS5 Pro, to reach higher frame rates and better graphics fidelity.

@otti3397

2 жыл бұрын

Without dlss sure

@GameslordXY

2 жыл бұрын

@Salt Maker You are a crazy PS5 fanboy if you think 2080 Super will not be running games well 5 - 7 years from now. AND with the mighty DLSS. It all depends on how competent developers are.

So impressive the performance the consoles are getting out of their SOC's

One of the best Digital Foundry videos. I love the method and care.

@xpgx1

2 жыл бұрын

Right? Exactly my thoughts as well! I just *love* that DF frequently takes it's time to showcase what the current benchmark actually is and provide *perspective* to everyone. This is super satisfying, because in my opinion, this usually gets lost on reddit or other places where enthusiasts talk about these results. A single bar or graph is never the answer =)

@Gucc111

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah I am pretty stupid but I found the explanations, graphs, and comparisons really easy to understand. Alex nailed it and these vids are what make DF analysis videos the best.

@rahulpandey9472

2 жыл бұрын

@Lov Mir lower anisotropic filtering and draw distance. Df is scam though so what are you even doing here😂

@uhurunuru6609

2 жыл бұрын

Disagree, biggest failure was comparing RDNA2 performance, to RDNA1 (RTX2000 Series) GPUs only, and the 60 FPS cap on PC was a total mistake, this limited vids usefulness. What was shown was fine, but Alex should have also shown current gen on PC, RDNA2 is only in RX 6000 Series, and RTX 3000 Series was also missing for no good reason. The artificial V-Sync cap on PC was useless, having already found scenes that were not hitting that 60 FPS limit on the PS5, there was no point to using V-Sync on PC. Why? The GPUs used didn't hit that V-Sync cap, and when reached with with RTX 2080 Ti, it was an forced cutoff, result was no GPU better than PS5 are even shown. Why?

@GameslordXY

2 жыл бұрын

@@uhurunuru6609 What's your point? KZread is limited to 60fps anyways.

Nothing really surprising here. Will be interesting to see how games specfically developed for PS5 will perform. Right now it's all still last-gen ports of games developed for an ancient architecture, so the true potential is yet to be utilized.

@ajdaniel8128

2 жыл бұрын

True

@schwartzy65

2 жыл бұрын

And when amd's dlss solution will come

@HeloisGevit

2 жыл бұрын

@@schwartzy65 It's not DLSS. It will get closer but it's impossible to match DLSS's quality because it relies on dedicated hardware components. Look at DF's Ghostwire Tokyo PC review, that game debuted TSR which is about the level you can expect of FSR 2.0.

@finaldivine8235

2 жыл бұрын

@@schwartzy65 it won't change anything on consoles. Cuz they already have and were using upscaling technics since ps360 generation. They have mastered upscaling technics with pro version of consoles. Even pcs had this feature with resolution scale sliders. Now they are only a marketing gimmick of branding on PC and standardazation on engines.

@zenitsu3102

2 жыл бұрын

Honestly,It's just intriguing That PS5 using Ps's Max settings but Not 16X anistrophic filtering Lmoa!!!

This game was so unbelievably pretty on PS5 when I got it last year. Idk if it counts but it was up there on my short list for game of the year

@whodatninja439

2 жыл бұрын

mine too on pc

@guily6669

2 жыл бұрын

Even on PS4 Pro its easily prettier than most of the entire library, but then again is mostly only drawing map, I totally loved the game though I never finished it just because near the end everything decay away so fast that I was even scared to play more since it would get to the point everything would be broken and I would have to spend so many hours fixing everything specially the online stuff, I wish it wasn't that screwed. Also I was aiming to get max level on all missions and I made most that way, but some are really beyond crazy to achieve such score and the more time I play the more stuff starts to decay and the more impossible it seems out of my reach to do such task 😵 PS: But the thing I really wished was much better would be to have much more human interaction and not being just mostly holograms of persons we sadly most never will see, really wish there was actual lot of human interaction instead ☹

@MFMArt

2 жыл бұрын

Indeed an underrated gem, misunderstood by a lot of the gaming community, definitely been one of my favorite experiences in recent times

@2Beasty

2 жыл бұрын

@@guily6669 idk what you mean. You get to go on a walk with your mom and everything

@tears2040

2 жыл бұрын

Don’t confuse “pretty graphics” with actually a game being “good”. Probably one of the worst games ever released, focus on graphics and forget what actually makes a game entertaining.

Had a PC guy tell me my Ps5 can not do 1440p

@Human_81

6 ай бұрын

My ps5 literally runs in 4k lol😭🤣

@stolenname94

3 ай бұрын

Depending on the game they are correct.

@Human_81

3 ай бұрын

@@stolenname94 bro are you literally stupid💀 my ps5 legit runs 4k on EVERY GAME. But nice try pc fan boy😂

@alumlovescake

2 ай бұрын

@@Human_81 FF16 be like

Nobody expected the PS5 gpu to be this powerful up against a PC. Nobody.

@xilonqmb

2 жыл бұрын

I actually did

@juststatedtheobvious9633

2 жыл бұрын

@@mikeuk666 A 4 year card that costs more than a PS5. When are you going to stop sleepwalking?

@TylerTron21

2 жыл бұрын

@@juststatedtheobvious9633 I'm not sure why it's a person's life purpose to be a hater. I guess they forget the ps5 will be 2 years old this year as well.

@GeneralMyke74

2 жыл бұрын

yes we all did DF themselves started this whole thing when they said Gears 5 on series X was running about as well as a 2080 super and i mean the ps5 isnt much different in hardware so it would of been common sense for expect about the same.

@danisflying

2 жыл бұрын

@@juststatedtheobvious9633 wake me up when the ps5 can run adobe premier and Pro tools my man

Damn, this is impressive. I thought the PS5 was around the power of a 2070 Super and here it is outperforming a 2080

@robreich6881

2 жыл бұрын

Great, so we can hook up a 1440p 144hz monitor and take advantage of that graphical horsepower right?….

@AndreFreitas91250

2 жыл бұрын

@@mikeuk666 It's so outdated that most pc gamers dont even have a gpu that matches this level of performace (specially for this price). XD

@rickrodriguez6244

2 жыл бұрын

@@robreich6881 No clue what you’re getting at slick. If you want to argue the results, be an idiot towards Digital Foundry, not me.

@rickrodriguez6244

2 жыл бұрын

@@mikeuk666 Still fairly impressive for a $500 box. You cant even get a 2080 for $500 right now, yet alone a Ryzen CPU, 16GB of RAM, 4K Blue Ray player, M.2 SSD, wireless controller with haptics, etc. It’s an impressive little package for what it is.

@parazels83

2 жыл бұрын

@@rickrodriguez6244 PS5 is available for $399

I love these PC/Console comparisons, these are my favorite type of content. Thank you!

This video is brilliant. The amount of work that went in to making this is staggering. Do Tiny Tina's Wonderland next plz!!!

remember when gamers nexus said PS5 is comparable to GTX1050?

i don't find revelant to compare rdna 1 vs PS5 rdna 2. TFLOPs is not representative between different architecture. It would be great if you had compare to 6000 series maybe.

@MrInuhanyou123

2 жыл бұрын

Ps5 isn't fully rdna2 and the actual rdna 2 GPUs are too lopsided for a proper analysis.

@chrisd8180

2 жыл бұрын

@@MrInuhanyou123 Dude Ps5 is a custom Rdna2

And then you realize that those graphic cards alone are more expensive than whole PS5...

@danisflying

2 жыл бұрын

my 3080 trashes on ur ps5 heh

@googas1

2 жыл бұрын

@@danisflying it only took thousands of dollars

@damiankarol5675

2 жыл бұрын

@@danisflying It better does if your whole set up is probably like 4-5x more expensive 😹

@johnnysilverhand9802

2 жыл бұрын

@@danisflying it better do for 4000$ because if the RTX 3080 gets outperfomed by PS5 again like it happened in Nioh 2 i am gonna be laughing again at you PC fanboys

@michealadebz

2 жыл бұрын

@@danisflying lol it better trash it if your paying 5x the price of the ps5 for it.

THIS WAS A GREAT VIDEO! I Really miss the hardware comparisons, and this was a great way to do it.

Artificial ceiling LOL On PS5 the game only loads to unified memory, while on PC it first needs to load to Ram and then stuff gets moved via PCI bus to GPU memory. @dachsjaeger should know that!

0:50 Wow i thought those trails were legit part of the aesthetic

Thank you guys! You deserve way more subs than you currently have. High quality videos for free is insane.

Nice to see a game fully utilizing the PS5 gpu at native 4k.

@pcgameboy8407

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah too bad it didnt fully utilize Nvidia, and favored AMD.. tho there are games that favor more Nvidia over AMD too so cant complain tbh.

They've probably done a "Director's Cut" because Kojima Productions might actually need the money. Or it's 505 that talked them into it. Like "Just add some things, Kojima, and we'll release it as a Director's Cut.".

Awesome stuff Alex! Any chance you could make this a series of videos? Love to see this on other games, possibly other systems/cards as well (vs. Series X/S, comparison to RDNA2 cards with the same core count as PS5, etc.). Keep up the good work!

PS5 really is an amazing console

@ajdaniel8128

2 жыл бұрын

No doubt

@danisflying

2 жыл бұрын

yeah if you think last gen hardware is impressive sure

@OutlawFarmersRC

2 жыл бұрын

Sure the Nvidia 4000 series is about to release this year. He is comparing 2 generations old PC hardware lol

I wish we could see like 2060 with DLSS on in those benchmarks. After all, you said multiple times its identical or sometimes even better than native. Leaving such a gamechanging technology out of the equation feels unfair

@fufu1128

2 жыл бұрын

I still stand by my comment when I played Death Stranding on my rtx 2060 and i7700k at the time with dlss 2k quality mode. It was stunning, and no game comes close to the improvement from dlss. Now I have an rtx 2070 super with i910850k and tested this version, 4k on performance mode, solid 60fps SUPER crisp image. This game sold me on dlss, it was revolutionary then, still is now.

@GameslordXY

2 жыл бұрын

RTX3050 would also be quite interesting in that case.

@GameslordXY

2 жыл бұрын

@@fufu1128 Try God of War 2018 perhaps. I am not claiming DLSS is even better there(I don't know),but it is amazing even so. Foliage especially is improved with it vs Native. Perhaps they improved Native over time.

Really? You are comparing RDNA 1 TFLOPS to RDNA 2 TFLOPS? You should have used the RX6600XT with 10,6 RDNA 2 TFLOPS. Naja, das ist jedenfalls meine Meinung

Just a reminder that Gamersnexus once said the PS5 was equivalent to a 1060 and that the consoles are using pc equivalent hardware from 2015

People might have a differing opinion on Kojima's games, but his team are remarkably talented at performance optimisation. Pretty sure you could run MGSV on a toaster.

@David-nd4to

2 жыл бұрын

The engine isn’t very pretty either though.

@cybervoid8442

2 жыл бұрын

@@David-nd4to isn't it decima engine? The same one that Guerilla uses

@superwhizz114

2 жыл бұрын

@@cybervoid8442 Yep

@gavinderulo12

2 жыл бұрын

@@cybervoid8442 I think he was talking about MGSV and the Fox Engine.

@davidgn40

2 жыл бұрын

@@David-nd4to what???

Mark Cerny is genius ❤️

I have no idea why Audi put an MST3K silhouette at 10:30, but I love it.

so next gen is 4 years behind already, got it :p

@GeneralMyke74

2 жыл бұрын

i think people have no idea how old the 20 series is lmao we about to be on the 40s and the bottom line on those GPUs will smoke these consoles for cheap.

@sachoslks

2 жыл бұрын

And "next gen" is nearly 2 years old already. So more like 2 years behind =P

@billygunn6185

2 жыл бұрын

next gen is already 2 years old

@andrewmoon3409

2 жыл бұрын

If ps5/xbsx slim comes out, it would be 4 or 5. I'm just early 🤣

@ttwinsturbo

2 жыл бұрын

Funny PC master race but reality is different: rtx3050=gtx1660S rtx3060=rtx2070 rtx3060TI=rtx2080S rtx3070=rtx2080TI conclusion all low- med rtx30 series is equivalent rtx20 series in raw power only rtx3080+++ is next gen Ampere power! So 4 years rtx2080 have all New Nvidia technology and perform close to rtx3060TI

Why are you benchmarking when having the Gpus paired with better cpus than the ps5 one? Shouldn’t you be using a zen 2 cpu with each of them (the same one as the ps5)

@sachoslks

2 жыл бұрын

Because that way you eliminate any possible CPU bottleneck, the point of test is to benchmark GPU vs GPU at max performance.

@johannessguten2527

2 жыл бұрын

@@sachoslks but what about if the ps5 ran into a cpu limitation? This a variable when benchmarking GPU

The comparison in clock speeds and computing units between the PS5 GPU and the AMD line up sounds similar to the differences in performance we have seen between the PS5 and Series X. The Series X has more computing units but at lower clock speeds.

@MrInuhanyou123

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah. So depending on the game the PS5 or Xbox series x set up will be favored

@mbsfaridi

2 жыл бұрын

@@wizzenberry Also workload scales better on PS5 with 36 compute units because it’s a multiple of 4/8 like Cerny said before.

@thanksbetotap

2 жыл бұрын

@@mbsfaridi That’s exactly the same case with the Series X having 52 CUs.

@cheesyriceo4

2 жыл бұрын

The performance gap this gen is much smaller than last. 1800p vs 2160p isnt that noticeable from 7 feet away. Really just comes down to which games you wanna play

IS directors' cut forgot to use gpu? MY GPU USAGE IS 76-86% , IT USED TO BE 98%. @4k , RTX 3080 + 5600X

03:58 surprised the 10900k system beats 12900K.. Ram Latency bound?

@guillermopaolini9895

2 жыл бұрын

12990k you have to use DDR5. It's probably using DDR4.

Always knew PS5 was a beast of a machine. Thats why this gen I kept my old pc and got a PS5 instead of upgrading my pc. It was a very easy and economical choice plus I can play the best exclusives like Demon Souls and many others

@chadmann132

2 жыл бұрын

What are you, an advertisement for Sony?

@ajdaniel8128

2 жыл бұрын

@@chadmann132 ?

@chadmann132

2 жыл бұрын

@@ajdaniel8128 I said "what are you, a advertisement for Sony?"

@ajdaniel8128

2 жыл бұрын

@@chadmann132 What I wrote was common sense

@chadmann132

2 жыл бұрын

@@ajdaniel8128 what you wrote is kinda like brown nosing for no reason.

PS5 outperforming a 2080 💪

@billygunn6185

2 жыл бұрын

@@mikeuk666 PS5 is 2 years old

@flhla_g1

2 жыл бұрын

@@mikeuk666 I see you in a lot of comments . what card do you have big guy ?

1:40 the mountain on the back looks sharper on director’s cut.

But does the PC's director's cut have the 30 frames drop for certain cutscenes like with the original PC port?

What I don't understand, why are you guys not testing with current gen GPUs? The RTX 20 series is 3 1/2 years old. And the 40 series is around the corner! I would like to see some tests with a RTX 3060, 3060ti and 3070. Don't you think the 20 series is a little bit outdated?

@sushimshah2896

2 жыл бұрын

Seriously? Have you deleted the past 2yrs from your memory? You may want to have a look at Steam's HW metrics!

@starmanhov

2 жыл бұрын

Because of the issue he stated with vsync. PS5 forces vsync which impacts performance so to do a meaningful comparison you need to also enable it on PC. Doing so however limits the FPS to 60, so comparing PS5 to any cards that achieve 60 in the selected benchmark areas doesn't really tell you much besides the GPU is better than PS5. 3060 probably runs this game at a locked 60 in these scenes so we can't really know how much better it is running than PS5, therefore its kind of pointless to do.

@rockjaxn

2 жыл бұрын

@@sushimshah2896 So, what? Why should I care about the Steam charts? It's still 3 1/2 years old. The GTX 1060 it's still the most used card on Steam. So, should they only bench with a GTX 1060, because it's the most used card? And AMD is basically irrelevant on Steam, but he still showed some benchmarks with AMD cards. So, your steam charts excuse makes no sense. I would like to see current gen GPUs vs current gen consoles. I would like to see if a RTX 3060 or 3060ti can beat the PS5. Or are you afraid, that the new gen GPUs are faster and better?

@rockjaxn

2 жыл бұрын

@@starmanhov I understand your point, but still. They only show benchmarks (against consoles) with last gen GPUs and I don't understand why? They could at least add one current gen GPU. A RTX 3060 or 3060ti would be a good start.

@ragnarlothbrok4659

2 жыл бұрын

@@starmanhov the RTX 3060 is just as powerful as an RX 5700XT it aint running any game better than the PS5 you saw what the PS5 did to the RX 5700XT it smashed it even the RTX 3060TI is 2% slower than the PS5 GPU which is equivalent to RX 6700XT in cross gen games and PS5 GPU will get alot more powerful as we enter next gen and more GPU Complier shaders driver updates tools software optimizations are done and we leave crossgen behind games build on next gen engines from the ground up for PS5 will see the PS5 gpu performing like a RX 6800 - RX 6800XT performance

Wish you had tested with a RX 6600 XT which is the closest to PS5 to see the performance and maybe how much the low bandwidth memory on hit could possibly affect it for 4K... Not that I have any interest in such GPU anyway but would have been cool to see.

@GemyGaming_LOL

2 жыл бұрын

@Lov Mir PS4 was around r9 270x (hd7870) not r7 see the r9 270x still hold against ps4 today

@GemyGaming_LOL

2 жыл бұрын

i have r9 270x right now in my daughter's pc it play 95% of modern game the same or slightly better than ps4 do you know that ps4 uses low to median graphics settings ? some modern game the ps4 use only low preset and 30fps like Control game sure 2gb is bottleneck for that card games like ps4 poor ported excusive like horizon zero dawn it runs original settings 35 fps but the 2gb vram can lead to some stutters in that game but 95% of games its fine at medium setting 1080p or 900p the rx 460 is the same gpu but with 4gb vram it runs the horizon zero dawn flawlessly

Surely the teraflops comparison is irrelevant?

@guillermopaolini9895

2 жыл бұрын

Yes. In theory the PS5 would be very similar to an RX 6600, but it performs more, close to an RX 6700.

Can you look at the quality mode for this game now that VRR is out please 🙏

The fact that a $400 console can match a GPU that will cost you $1000 is really wonderful value prop for the PS5.

@pistachiodisguisey911

2 жыл бұрын

Well it was made for consoles and using an engine developed originally for that console makes sense it performs well on it

@Rockaxldude

2 жыл бұрын

@@enrique7934 It's not poorly optimized at all lmao what are you talking about

@subjectivereviews

2 жыл бұрын

PC fanboys are gona hate you🤣

@kwizatzart

2 жыл бұрын

lmao I love how you lower the price of PS5 and exaggerate the one of RTX 2080 PS5 is 500€ and not available and RTX 2080 was 600€ 2 years ago but no more available (2080 MSRP was 799$ 4 years ago) If you could find a PS5 it would still be 500€ and if you could find a RTX 2080 it wouldn't cost more that 350€/400€ at this point (scalpers prices make no sense as a comparison point, because of scarcity and crypto BS)

@DrKrFfXx000000000000

2 жыл бұрын

In what world an old 2080s costs 1000$?

I remember Gamer Nexus video around a year ago where he stated that PS5 gpu is around 1060 lol. Its then when i unsubed from his channel. Too much console hate.

surprised they didn't just cap the 4K mode to 30fps like every other game. I guess the future VRR PS5 update will fix the fps drops

The PS5 GPU is actually a beast when utilized properly. Just wished RDNA2 ray tracing performance was better

@danisflying

2 жыл бұрын

aka last gen games that utilize the cpu less

@chrisd8180

2 жыл бұрын

ps5 is a custom rdna2

Why didn't you test RX 6000 series GPU?

@Rafa-Silva-Alt

2 жыл бұрын

Probably would cap at 60 fps, so the benchmarks wouldn't be reliable.

Ps5 (and series x) are incredible GREAT value for your money! So happy with mine!

Team Ico games like The Last Guardian and Kojima games like MG and Death Stranding are some of the most innovative games of all time and unfortunately no one plays them especially Team Ico games which literally inspired Demons Souls/Dark Souls. The Last Guardian couldnt even hit 1 million sales, might even be lower than 500k. massive shame but at least Death Stranding is gaining more traction now with well over 5 million units sold.

@theanimerapper6351

2 жыл бұрын

When did from soft say they were inspired by team ico?

@splinterborn

2 жыл бұрын

@@theanimerapper6351 Look up Miyazaki interviews, he was inspired by ICO 2001.

Death Stranding gets announced I'll wait for PC. Death Stranding released for PS4. I'll wait for PC. Death Stranding gets released for PC. I'll wait for patches. Death Stranding DC gets announced for PS5. I'll wait for PC. Death Stranding DC released for PS5. I'll wait for PC. Death Stranding DC released for PC. I'll wait for patches (Intel Xess, given no FSR 2.0 support announced). It's been 3 years now.

@RamGuy459

2 жыл бұрын

Applause. I was like you originally, but I got the first version for PC. And to make it worse I got Director's Cut on the PlayStation 5 as Sony made it seem like it was going to be a PlayStation 5 exclusive as PC was not being mentioned at all for the first few weeks. I get Director's Cut on PlayStation 5, play for a few days and BAAM Director's Cut for PC gets announced and I don't want to play in 16:9, I would rather play in 21:9 on my PC so now I have the Director's Cut for PC as well.. Lucikly the PC was only a 10 USD upgrade.

The PS5 being on par with a RTX 2080/RTX 3060 is insane.Especially when both cards right now cost more than even after market PS5s.

@f-22raptor25

2 жыл бұрын

With good optimization it's not too hard to do even if the ps5 gpu it self doesn't have the horsepower

@glorious240fps6

2 жыл бұрын

@@f-22raptor25 horsepower AKA tflops? It certainly has that to match RTX 2080.

@otti3397

2 жыл бұрын

They don't? The 3060 is 420$ in evga's website

@AndreFreitas91250

2 жыл бұрын

the ps5 performance looks to be above those 2 gpus (it looks to be more like a rtx 3060 ti and rx 6600 xt)

@LycanNaryko

2 жыл бұрын

@@otti3397 which is 20$ more than the complete ps5 DE... The Price/Performance ratio of the ps5 is insane.

I think games have made it clear that it doesn’t matter if you have a 3080 or a 3090 or gods touch, if the game is not optimize it’s gonna run how it wants.

@mathdantastav2496

2 жыл бұрын

wait, not disagreeing, but y r u commenting this in this video? This video shows literally no problems with the PC release of death stranding

@ToxMod

2 жыл бұрын

@@mathdantastav2496 It sounds like you didn’t watch the whole video because there is a problem with the loading times on PC, in my eyes, like others thought PCs were 10 times better than consoles. Just one of the many nitpicks I have about PCs.

@pcgameboy8407

2 жыл бұрын

@@mathdantastav2496 The game favors AMD by a lot. 10fps difference between AMD and Nvidia equivalent GPUs.

@mathdantastav2496

2 жыл бұрын

@@ToxMod the loading times are perfectly fine, and they are worse than the ps5 due to the lack of direct storage. Definitly not related to this pc port.

@mathdantastav2496

2 жыл бұрын

@@pcgameboy8407 booth are still performimg amazingly, a 2080 getting pretty much a locked 60, except for a few rare circunstances at 4k native? come one, thats amazing performance, even if it performs better on amd also, this gamr has dlss, so probly even a 2060 can run this at 4k 60

I didn't understand the part where it says how to activate triple buffering, can someone explain it better? I'm interested, saludos!

it would have just been easier to use the nvidia control panel vsync, as it does not have the same problems as the ingame vsync

PS5 such a good Console.

@ajdaniel8128

2 жыл бұрын

@@mikeuk666 You are a pathetic pc fanboy going around each comments and replying. I understand since pc has no quality games to play

@JFinns

2 жыл бұрын

For the money yes it absolutely is. But it doesn't compete with new RTX 3000 cards, let alone upcoming RTX 4000 cards.

Consoles should never be underestimated, they offer good experiences with low prices, you can see that there is a lot of care in optimizations for consoles

@chillnspace777

2 жыл бұрын

Games are made.for them specifically then pcs get the scraps. Console hardware this time around is way better out the gate but pcs run laps around them in a year or so. However no company will spend the money to show that difference great example is crisis 1.

I’ve had the Directors Cut of this game for a couple of months now but then other games came out that I wanted to play. I think I may wait for VRR on PS5 now before I play. The framerate already being so high on Quality mode makes the VRR update worth waiting for I think.

Such a stunning looking game. Maybe last gen but in my eyes its more to next gen games considering it looks better than the games that are out now and there advertising them as next gen

Very interesting video, thanks for your hard work as always. I would have been interested to know how PS5 performs against RDNA2 PC GPUs though, which is supposed to be the same architecture. Also, I'm curious to know what model of 2080 you're using for the bench. If it's a Founders Edition, I think it's legit to say that a custom 2080 with higher frequencies "beats" the PS5 in that specific game.

@glorious240fps6

2 жыл бұрын

Exactly my thoughts. DF should stop using RDNA1 gpus to test against these consoles. Specially when they compare Ray Tracing performance.

@DigitalFoundry

2 жыл бұрын

It is an FE

@01chohan

2 жыл бұрын

@Eric B Because hardly anyone actually overclocks their GPUs/CPUs anymore

@01chohan

2 жыл бұрын

@Eric B You can like your own comment as much as you want, hardly anyone fiddles around with voltages/offsets/power limits/clock speeds.

@Keinspeiserjr

2 жыл бұрын

@@01chohan all gpus now also have auto oc, so its very easy xd

Anyone else getting really bad aliasing at 1440p? I’ve tried switching between DLSS & standard anti aliasing.

@chadmann132

2 жыл бұрын

Idk about aliasing, but the games runs like ass on my 3060ti at ultra performance dlss, low settings, at 1440p, something's wrong.

@Joreel

2 жыл бұрын

Game run smooth as silk and looks beautiful @1440p on my i7-10700, EVGA 3070, 32 gig ram on my SSD ☺️

@fufu1128

2 жыл бұрын

@@chadmann132 What's your ram, hard drive and cpu?

@chadmann132

2 жыл бұрын

@@Joreel doesn't help me at all

@chadmann132

2 жыл бұрын

@@fufu1128 ram is 16gigs of ddr4, my CPU is a Ryzen 5 3600 and I installed the game on a NvMe SSD, Samsung series pro.

My RTX 2080 getting beat by a console? *jumps off cliff*

@Battleneter

2 жыл бұрын

Well they are about even, but that is now a 4 year old last gen GPU, so don't feel too bad.

Out of curiosity, why do so many console games seem to have low anisotropic filtering? In my experience, from what I remember, every time I've ever fiddled with the anisotropic filtering setting in games it has had very little performance impact to the point where I just turn it up to 16x without thinking about it. Do consoles lack power, or is it a performance saving measure? Do the PS5 and XSX really need low af, or might it be a bit of a leftover from the previous generation?

@paulustrucenus

2 жыл бұрын

Bit of a late answer, but to my understanding this has to do with the way consoles are built, with shared memory between cpu and gpu, making anisotropic filtering much more expensive. Although I'm not sure.

PS5 is a beast

Hi! How about a video analyzing the image quality of the performance mode of Forbidden West after the last patch? Would help us convincing the developers to further work on it, maybe even adding a second performance mode with less graphical details but more antialiasing.

Amds RX 6700XT is between the 2080 and the 2080Super

The TAA in console version is much better than TAA in pc version. Still way worse than DLSS but console death stranging TAA does not produce this aggressive shimmering on some foliage

Wow. Such a good video. Alex has really become my favorite on this channel since his past few videos. The comparisons of the PS5 with those GPUs really gave me such a clear look at the differences in power and build.

Weird how you didn't test with 30 series cards

@theanimerapper6351

2 жыл бұрын

Why would they? You already know how much better a 3060 is than a 2060 so do the math yourself

@crestofhonor2349

2 жыл бұрын

He said he didn't have any other GPUs on hand

@sprintingsnail9492

2 жыл бұрын

It's obvious the 3000 series card would be pretty much flawless if the 2080ti was flawless.

@GeneralMyke74

2 жыл бұрын

@@theanimerapper6351 3060 is slower than a 2060 super.

I found this really interesting. Can someone explain what Alex did to enable triple buffering to make the game utilize 100% of the gpu when v-sync is enabled. Thanks!

@juu226

2 жыл бұрын

This option is in NVIDIA control panel settings, so maybe there.

@fufu1128

2 жыл бұрын

I want to know to. I know you enable triple buffering through nvidia control panel in the graphics settings, but I don't know what he meant by enabling it through WDM Windows desktop manager? 🤔

@ritayandhara7638

2 жыл бұрын

@@fufu1128 yeah. This explains why sometimes I'm stuck below 60 and gpu not being at 100%.

This was great! Wish you'd compared it to a 6700XT as that is the closest PC equivalent.

@AdaaDK

2 жыл бұрын

naa 6600XT, 6700XT has to much vram, the ps5 has shared mem, its doubtfull that it can alone 12gb for the game alone to the gpu. Same with pref, 6600XT with OC is prob the more suiting cussin in most comparrisons.

@mathdantastav2496

2 жыл бұрын

@@AdaaDK i don't think any of the GPUs in this test were beeing memory bound

@thecarl1013

2 жыл бұрын

@@AdaaDK Exactly. 6600 xt have 10.60tflops and core clock 2359Mhz (depends on gpu version) and 32CU/RT Cores (so should perform same performance in Ray Tracing). But note: there's memory bandwidth bottleneck on PS5, because of shared memory. So performance difference might be different, depends on the game.

@sayakroy9070

2 жыл бұрын

@@thecarl1013 But 6600 xt also has only half the bandwidth of a ps5 though.

@thecarl1013

2 жыл бұрын

​@@sayakroy9070 Yes, but this is still separated gpu (vram) memory, not shared with cpu. So memory bandwidth bottleneck isn't as big, as on ps5

Love reading PC gamers get defensive for some reason in the comments lol

Nice comparison but I wish there were some current gen gpus tested instead of last gen gpus since the current ones are almost also hitting end of life as well in a couple of months when the RTX 40x0 and RX 7x00 series release.

@Arcona

2 жыл бұрын

They won't be end of life when the new ones come out, they'll still be manufacturing the 3000/6000 cards. But yeah would have been nice seeing more cards, though you could just look at a benchmark for the game testing different cards elsewhere.

@Schizm1

2 жыл бұрын

lol if you think that release of RTX40 series will "end" the 30 series. I really hope you do realise that VAST majority of PC gamers are still using 10XX series of graphic cards. Not to mention that on release 40XX series is going to be VERY expensive. And finally - DLSS is prolonging the longevity of graphic cards so... No point of replacing 30XX cards for the next two years. (Then MS/Sony will most likely ditch last gen. )

@bb5307

2 жыл бұрын

@@Schizm1 You call a product ''end of life'' when they're no longer manufacturing them but maybe i should have used ''end of sale'' instead. Usually they do this a few months in advance to clear out old inventory before the new generation launches that replaces it. I haven't kept track much about gpus since I got a 3080 at launch day a year and a half ago or something so I only just learned they will keep making 30xx series gpus well into the 40xx lifecycle. Kind of unusual but I guess the shortages have something to do with it and it might be smart to have wafer supply from Samsung and TSMC at the same time.

@ttwinsturbo

2 жыл бұрын

Last Gen gpu-s ? All Nvidia rtx20 series have the same RT and ML functions and in raw power: rtx3050=gtx1660S rtx3060=rtx2070 rtx3060TI=rtx2080S rtx3070=rtx2080TI only rtx3080++ is real next gen power!

Ps5 performing alike to a rtx 2080 is simply amazing

@Battleneter

2 жыл бұрын

You do know that's a 4 year old last Gen GPU right?

@itsshowtime5542

2 жыл бұрын

@@Battleneter lets put it this way then, the ps5 comes pretty close to a 3060ti, you can get a ps5 digital edition for 400 while the 3060ti alone is 400. that's pretty impressive

@Battleneter

2 жыл бұрын

@@itsshowtime5542 No its just below a 3060 not a TI. Sure the buy in cost on console is cheap, but console gamers get raped slowly over time with monthly online subscriptions and more expensive games due to no competition in the digital game store area. Additionally a PC is not "just" a toy, your comparing a cheap single blade small knife to a Swiss Army knife :P

@itsshowtime5542

2 жыл бұрын

@@Battleneter no did you not watch the video? The ps5 in this game is performing a little above a 2080. A 2080 outperforms a 3060 by a decent margin in most games so a ps5 outperforms the 3060

@Battleneter

2 жыл бұрын

@@itsshowtime5542 In ONE title, its raw teraflop performance is below a 3060. You cant make wide spread assumptions based on a sample size of one. I should add I also own a XBSX that has a slight more powerful GPU than PS5, I think these are good little consoles, but I would stop short of calling them amazing.

F.Y.I, the DualSense controller works on the PC version! Haptics, resistive triggers, motion controls, the speaker, the whole 9 yards! Trick is, you need to use a USB cable, and you need to go into the game's Steam settings (NOT the in-game settings!) and under "controller" you need to choose "disable Steam input"!

@wILLIpUNX

2 жыл бұрын

DS speaker dont seem to be working for me with BB voice

Ps5 is a beast

This update should be free instead of being a complete new game. Some improvements but not that much new content for 10€ for the upgrade is more a scam as a upgrade.

@gautamsunilkumar

2 жыл бұрын

Did you play it yet? There's a lot of new stuff.

@KaeganThornhillTheCyberRaven

2 жыл бұрын

The "Update" pretty much "Soft-Reboot" the Game. New Combat system, A VR training area, New Cars, More enemey locations, More Skills, Added Area, and more.

You should compare the base games performance to the DC on PC, as the DC version clearly runs way worse and looks the same...

Idk why but, beyond 60fps, everything looks like it moves too fast. I have the ability to game wayyy beyond that and I hate it.

@mikem2253

Жыл бұрын

Really? I don’t have that issue on my 7900xt running 120fps.

Very impressive results for the $399 console!

Fantastic work, very scientific. The PS5 is such a bargain, too bad I can't find one anywhere.

Am I right in thinking that the Director's Cut additions include improvements to loading times, visuals and performance and these are only found in the Director's Cut? Shouldn't visual and performance improvements also make it into the non-director's cut as part of the normal game patching cycle? Sure, pay extra for additional gameplay content but it'd be pretty galling to be expected to pay for improved performance and visual updates you should reasonably expect to see in the standard release via game updates.

Now do this again when direct storage is available for the game.

@riceeater79

2 жыл бұрын

Aww

Awesome video. Proves that PS5 can hit and even surpass 2080 performance.

@altaafsheik5725

2 жыл бұрын

Eventually it become more powerful due to optimizations and maturing of game engine to ps5 hardware

@kwedl

2 жыл бұрын

It just shows how powerful console optimization is and yet some people act like it doesn't exist. On paper the specs shouldn't be on par with it. On paper the PS4 also should not even be able to run some multiplats games that are coming out lately.

@f-22raptor25

2 жыл бұрын

It's optimization. On pc you cant as there are so many gpus out there

@juststatedtheobvious9633

2 жыл бұрын

@@mikeuk666 That still costs more than a PS5.... Your Russian analysis is better than your consumer advice.

@ajdaniel8128

2 жыл бұрын

PS5 will become even more powerful down the line due to developer support and optimization

Great work! I would have guessed beforehand that the AMD GPUs would have done better because of their last-gen console heritage.

Honestly believe *Sony Interactive Entertainment* would have benefited more from rotating a curated list of their main titles fully optimized to be rented over a limited time towards the computer market over selling them directly to said market That would ensure their service would recoup profits on a constant basis on an ongoing period of time without fully compromising their *PlayStation* ecosystem

Alex B. This is such a great video…really good work!

For me the haptic feedback is a must. It was the one thing really hurting my thoughts on the balance system in the first version. There are beautiful Vistas to be watching not to mention planning routes-having to watch little visual prompts destroyed this and was fixed with the new controller to a point I turned off everything on the hud.

the GPU that is closest to the PS5 is the Rx 6600XT, I have played all the games in a similar way to the quality of the PS5 without problems with this GPU.

@killermoon635

2 жыл бұрын

6600xt is barely faster than 5700xt. At high resolution like 4k, 6600xt performs little worse because of poor bandwidth So, no it does not match ps5

now we need to see halo and series x vs pc and how do the series x stack up against gpus

@rahulpandey9472

2 жыл бұрын

Halo runs like crap on pc.

@rinkumultani6515

2 жыл бұрын

@@rahulpandey9472 any other game will do as long as its high quality game like death stranding and demanding and push the system to max

I guess this shows ps5 is around a 2080 in this game, slightly faster however also slower in that motorbike part, so I would say they are in the same ballpark. However in games more tuned to the nvidia architecture the ps5 might fall to a 2070 or a 2070/S possibly and this is without ray tracing. With RT and especially heavy RT, we would see the 2060S keeping up with the ps5 in this game probably. We always forget that there is indeed optimizations for AMD/Nvidia as well, this is noticeable in certain games.