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Completly agree with Matt Damon about the mid-budget movies. Sometimes a story is best told all at once and then that is it. No more franchices or spin-offs.

@verskarton

Жыл бұрын

Maybe such movies might be now part of an anthology streaming series like Del Toro’s cabinet of curiosities or Love, Death and Robots.

@jjj0026

Жыл бұрын

Agreed. Good Will Hunting ( one of the best mid budget movies ever) couldn’t be successful in todays climate.

@gloriathomas3245

Жыл бұрын

Sad to say the only reason why we're seeing an influx of franchises stand from the fact the box office is now international and this is the demographic studios are chasing.

@LinkMarioSamus

Жыл бұрын

@@jjj0026 I see your point but I’m a bit leery of that example because of who executive produced it. On that note however, The Weinstein Company was lacking in box office hits its last few years and its last film before the scandal has a 10% on Rotten Tomatoes. When you think about it it’s not at all a dissimilar situation to the massive box office failure of Heaven’s Gate juxtaposed against the successes of films like the old Star Wars movies and Raiders of the Lost Ark cementing the blockbuster age of Hollywood.

@akram9744

Жыл бұрын

@@verskarton that still is very restrictive

What's sad, is that with the death of the movie star, also comes with the death of beloved movies. These days, there's hardly anyone talking about films they've seen and have a great admiration for. It just feels like movies are watched and forgotten about; whereas films 20 years ago are still looked upon fondly and remembered much more personally.

@darnellmajor8895

Жыл бұрын

And that's why you see producers like Jason Blum thriving so much lately with the B-Indie movie because people are tired of the A-list movie that has become a parody of its former self............

Miniseries is now the 'mid-range movie'. Then again, I think the decline of movie stars gives more room for other unknown actors/actresses and better casting. There were movie stars cast for their star power, not because they're closer to the source material, such as Tom Cruise as Jack Reacher.

@sarizonana

Жыл бұрын

So agree, while I feel sad for the loss of the movie stars, is not all bad. Better casting decisions happen because movie studios or directors are no longer pressured to cast actors who will give them great box office numbers. now they see a great script or a great franchise will give them the big numbers. The George Clooney flop as Batman won’t happen again.

@marcos-ll2yr

Жыл бұрын

Mia Goth in Pearl is a great example

@alim.9801

Жыл бұрын

I agree, miniseries/limited series (I think they're the same but sometimes they're called one or the other idk). Those are usually the "prestige" TV or streaming projects

@scottbarkley496

Жыл бұрын

TOM CRUISE is the GOAT you tool The first REACHER made 224m on a 60m budget ... unknown actors my ass

@TheAsdfrid

2 ай бұрын

Yeah good actors are boring. If people to to get bored they will go to broadway. Way better actor. But not chrisma. Chrisma is Star power.

I think it’s because stars used to be more mysterious and elusive before social media. Aside from magazines and interviews people didn’t know the stars. Then social media came and there was to much saturation and streaming. There are still actors I enjoy but there is not that elusive glamor anymore. Plus the rise of influencer and the idea that everyone can be famous through the internet also killed it

@marlonmoncrieffe0728

Жыл бұрын

Ah, good point about media oversaturation due to internet culture.

@dylanshorrorchannel1378

Жыл бұрын

This is the best answer I've read great job.

@iprobablyforgotsomething

Жыл бұрын

@Maria Skabardonis -- Precisely. Stars are so much more accessible nowadays on a regular basis, not even counting stuff like when jack*sses hack their phones / computers for private images and sell them to the tabloids or post them online. Now a lot of the curiousity remains yet simultaneously, the mystery is gone and we see them as just people. Which isn't necessarily a bad thing; they *are* just imperfect fellow humans and should neither be stalked nor deified. But it's definitely a part of the changing perception and 'feel' of Hollywood / movie stars overall.

@jrt2792

Жыл бұрын

In other words, it's hard to admire a celebrity when everybody can easily be a celebrity now.

@alpacacomentadora413

Жыл бұрын

it's called democracy

This is The Take as it should be! Thank you for this great take! I've been thinking about the decline of the mid budget film for more than 10 years and share most of your points

@greentree211

Жыл бұрын

yes! you can really tell the scripts the original screenprism ladies write vs the ones they buy, seemingly off of fivver....

@c5quared626

Жыл бұрын

for the same 10, or even 22 years since this phenomenon has been prevalent, indie films have stepped up and produced gems. unfortunately the wall preventing fantastic indie auteurs and ACTORS to move up to big budget production levels. recently i have been blown away by ana lily amanpour,, tens of millions from the previous studios will not go to her. tens of millions went to people like kubrick. those learned their lesson in the wrong way, instead of appeasing great auteurs and stage artists and actors, they would rather use high profile ACTORS to sell movies by lukewarm directors, yes men who dont deliver intense good film. the reaction has been to shun the facade, humanity as a whole does have profound intellect and the ability to see fraud. even though they will happily accept religious nonsense, they have no patience for sloppy paper thin delivery. there has to be heart. i agree with you and the take

@c5quared626

Жыл бұрын

@@greentree211 lol you think they actually use inauthentic material? that changes everything

@alim.9801

Жыл бұрын

@@greentree211 ok im glad it's not just me, bc I've thought some of their scripts lately have been very...not them

@NWednesdayQuansah

Жыл бұрын

@@alim.9801 I've felt the exact same way! The cultural analysis used to be really sharp, and now many of the video essays feel like a middle-schooler wrote them. That combined with the Established Titles debacle made me move away from this channel.

I guess both movies and actors have changed. Some actors are just tired to see their whole career wrapped up around the same character, and just want to be remembered by something else. Also, single movies are giving up space to franchises (I am conflicted about it). Last but not least, we, the public, after so many disappointments with movie stars, are fed up with their worship.

@megauxvasse6797

Жыл бұрын

I can't say fed up,necessarily. There will always be a public following/obsession/public interest in some way. They have inspired a lot of ppl & in many ways that's not really a bad thing. As long as fans carry the understanding along with all that stuff,that they are also human & prone to failure. I like stars,but I also see them as human. So it's not that deep,for me.

@1bridge11

Жыл бұрын

Why is it that when I mention The Critical Drinker in the comments section here, the broads that run this channel delete my comment?

@AdeleiTeillana

Жыл бұрын

@@1bridge11 Well, if I was one of "the broads" that run this channel, I'd delete your comment just for calling me a broad, like you completely skipped over the last 90 years of advancement on this planet. And I'm saying that as a fan of the Critical Drinker.

@1bridge11

Жыл бұрын

@@AdeleiTeillana Do you think these broads are jealous that The Drinker has more subscribers than they do?

@natalyamartirosyan

Жыл бұрын

Yeah that’s why there’s no worship of internet stars because people are tired of worshipping the rich and the beautiful…oh wait

I’ve been watching a lot of older movies lately because I miss how they made me feel growing up. I love big budget and small budget films and I miss those so much. I hope one day to make one indie film that people will love and bring that joy of film back to people hearts.

@mlw9195

Жыл бұрын

I’m the same way

@jt-bw6qd

Жыл бұрын

Will it be shot in black and white?

@janetjohnston1702

Жыл бұрын

As an Afrikan liSwati who liked to watch foreign movies especially Hollywood I feel let down lately like why are they destroying the old movies by remaking them to fit new think instead of just creating new movies for the new think or woke people 🚮 I'm even lazy to go to the cinema anymore 😕 I just miss the Hollywood of old that used to give us good stories from different genres 🤔

@NJGuy1973

Жыл бұрын

We really don't need any new movie stars because we still have the old ones. We can watch Casablanca, Star Wars, or Titanic whenever we want.

@genius179

Жыл бұрын

You can do it, go see those indies as much as you see a sequel or reboot. You do not have to choose but if you want them to come back, do your part.

Big stars required a steady output of movies. In Hollywood's Golden Age, a star would appear in 3 to 5 movies every year. That's impossible today, with the bloated budgets and risk-averse corporate mentality decreasing the number of films made.

@viridianacortes9642

Жыл бұрын

That is all true. With the monopoly of Disney and Warner, it’s decreasing the number of movies made every year because they have such little competition. A lot of smaller movie studios not owned by those two moguls are moving out of LA and CA in order to be able to make movies due to those two studios owning everything in the state. Hopefully the competition will increase again with all the movie business moving to other states. I heard Arcadia and other movie studios are making three studios lots in AZ in 2023. And some more are going to Georgia and New Mexico.

@danielsentertainmentproduc1527

Жыл бұрын

Eric Roberts and Danny Trejo: Hold my beer!

As an aspiring actress and HUGE movie buff this is an interesting conversation. It's sad to see the decline of mid budget movies.

@Blodia1990

Жыл бұрын

All best wishes in your acting endeavors and you're worthy of everything

@clarissawestbrook2203

Жыл бұрын

@@Blodia1990 Thank you happy New Year!

@grade12purity41

Жыл бұрын

low... hope you become popular someday..... God bless

@diabloakland

Жыл бұрын

I’m also an aspiring actress! I hope we both do well and get to work together one day! :)

@clarissawestbrook2203

Жыл бұрын

@@diabloakland Ok awesome and me too! Best wishes! 🎊🥳🎉🎂💐

Hollywood isn’t making enough STORIES for real movie stars.

@rashidapittman8513

Жыл бұрын

Absolutely right.

@diabloakland

Жыл бұрын

Agree.

@NorthPhilly-zr7xc

Жыл бұрын

I agree

@amandam480

Жыл бұрын

yep not enough mid range films. Just mini series or shows on streaming platforms these are the ones that get the hype and are original. Big budget movies are more or less the same now. Remakes, re-imaginings, sequels etc

@Wishmaster787

10 ай бұрын

​@@amandam480Streaming exclusives are killing western cinema

George Clooney wasn't a movie star yet in the 90s. His first big hit was A Perfect Storm in 2000 and he only really solidified himself as a star with Ocean's Eleven in 2001.

@m.goodle9860

Жыл бұрын

From Dusk Till Dawn, Out Of Sight, Batman & Robin and Three Kings beg to differ.

@c5quared626

Жыл бұрын

@@m.goodle9860 yes i recall there were a few lost souls who would be sold on going to the theatre if he was involved. that kind of attitude doesn't exist anymore, stage mummers have far less worth today. as a background actor, i think we may have given big actors a bit more credit than deserved. many dont vlog because they arent great people. if they were you would see them on ytube and we can evaluate. its not mystique, it's the fact they are just human, and not even at youtube presenter level of intelligence.

@greyLeicester

Жыл бұрын

@@m.goodle9860 no, not Batman and Robin lol

@joemaldonado7698

Жыл бұрын

@@m.goodle9860 Those weren't big hit movies. Three Kings was a modest hit. There is a BIG difference between staring in movies and being a Movie Star. A Movie Star can bring in a big audience on their name alone.

@thesimmer2612

Жыл бұрын

I think George Clooney's star power was built on ER. He became THE maga hunk from that show.

There are two real reasons why the movie star is gone (except for Tom Cruise). The first is that they believed their own hype and started preaching non stop to the audiences; all while living in the sex, drug and pedophilia capital of the world. Two: they started making movies THEY wanted to see, not what the AUDIENCE wanted to see. There’s a reason why Tom Cruise is the last movie star: because he is constantly focused on entertaining his audience and making sure they have a great time at the movies. People appreciate that.

@arctr00perecho

Жыл бұрын

Completely agree! Look at what Disney did to Star Wars for example. They created a story that was so disjointed from its audience and from the universe in which it takes place. They completely threw out the ideas George Lucas put together, while rewriting the characters and stars we all loved. Yes they made money but they alienated a huge portion of the Star Wars fandom. It’s saddening seeing these major corporations acting more like politicians who care more about the money in their pockets and pushing their agendas, rather than the audience’s entertainment and joy.

@pduidesign

Жыл бұрын

@@arctr00perecho so true. they constantly say “we need to make this for the modern audience”, yet when they do it turns out that the modern audience dislikes it and doesn’t go to see it. It shows they don’t know what the audience is or even care what the audience wants to see. THEY are their own audience.

@arctr00perecho

Жыл бұрын

@@pduidesign exactly! It reminds me of the reviews/ratings critics put out as well. Most of the time when the audience likes a movie, the critics have an opposite standpoint. Sometimes the audience and critics align but it seems more of an anomaly than anything else. Similar to what you said it’s as if they look down on the common audience as peasants who will never understand their high and mighty way of thinking. They think they know better and surround themselves only with people who agree with their point of view. The irony is if companies would be willing to accept constructive criticism and listen wholeheartedly, they might actually be able to create stories worthy of their audience’s approval. This issue reminds me of gaming companies as well, but that’s a whole other discussion. It’s crazy too when say Disney calls their audience misogynistic or racist when they don’t like their movies, when in fact we could care less about the gender or skin color of the actors themselves, but the lazy writing is what is the issue. They would rather blame their audience then admit their own faults. Yes, I’m sure there are people out there who are racist or misogynistic, but to generalize it’s negative audience makes Disney look like fools.

@RStudioBroadcast

11 ай бұрын

Agree 100%

@VogtTD

7 ай бұрын

@@arctr00perecho Also, not all criticism of ham fisted politics or gender/race swaps are motivated by bigotry. There actually are some valid complaints around these issues, not least of which is tokenization. Is it not reasonable to be annoyed that stories representing Europeon culture or history are putting black people where they don't fit in historically or culturally? Like Yennefer in Witcher, or trying to make Cleopatra black. European cultural stories deserve to be accurately represented. If people want to see black people in fantasy, why don't they actually adapt some African mythology and history? By race swapping this way, it's like they're saying black culture has no stories of their own worth telling.

Wouldn’t really consider Jennifer Aniston a movie star- she’s a household name but doesn’t have much that would qualify her for the movie star title- a better example would be Angelina Jolie 👍

@sissi6013

Жыл бұрын

Please tell me 5 movies that make her a movie star.

@michaelahurt

Жыл бұрын

@@sissi6013 Box office star and movie star aren’t the same thing though. I wouldn’t classify Jolie as a movie star either but she was a lot closer than Jen. Aniston never felt as untouchable as Angelina did. I think part of her success honestly is that she feels relatable. Similar to Reese Witherspoon or Drew Barrymore. There’s an ease to her whereas the classic movie stars feel distant and mysterious even when you know everything about them. But I think this might be one of those things where everyone has a slightly differed definition of what a movie star is

@jeant6502

Жыл бұрын

Agree! Jolie is a brilliant actress aswell!

@ssshar2176

Жыл бұрын

I came here to just say this! She made a bunch of forgettable rom coms and that’s it. She’s a “star” in the sense that it’s only because being married to a Brad Pitt made her A List.

@laysmaxx5789

9 ай бұрын

I agree. She's recognizable mostly for Friends, but other than that, she doesn't really have much else going on for her in terms of career. Don't know why they put her in the thumbnail.

Babylon is a great example, have a bunch of stars like Brad Pitt, Tobey Maguire, Margot Robbie but still flopped hard at the box office.

How I used to Enjoyed going to Cinemas In late 80s and all thru 90s watched movies 🎬 🎞 🎥 with drinks in one hand and popcorn 🍿 😀 in the other.. Oh I miss it so much all the excitement and socialized life going to cinema 😭

@NorthPhilly-zr7xc

Жыл бұрын

Fact's humanity just seem more closer & fun time's are so different now

After hearing that Zoe Saldana has made box office history after being 4/6 movies of all time to amass at least $2billion. I’m starting to see what you mean by franchises being bigger than any individual actor. This is a great take

I’ve wondered what Hollywood will look like in 10-30 years. Many celebrities will have passed away by then, also how much will people of the future be into our era of Hollywood. Interesting to think about

@bighand1530

Жыл бұрын

Will be interesting to see how this comment will look 10 to 30 years from now. A lot can happen within 10 to 30 years and not just in the movie world too.

@zpclosangelesgraffiticafe

8 ай бұрын

@@bighand1530everybody knows the ClA and inteligensia controls media though, whether its Hollywood, Hip-Hop, Streaming or Kpop.

I honestly believe there can be more movie stars in today's landscape. I just think if we get more movies that is more thought provoking and has more interesting characters to allow the actors to truly showcase their talents.

Times change...we'll be fine. Not like they were saving anyone's lives when they were breathing the rarified air of movie stardom. More choice is ALWAYS better.

@madinp1177

Жыл бұрын

I agree with your first two sentences but not necessarily your third. The "more choice" isn't necessarily better when the industry is mostly churning outlow-qualityy homogenized work to try to appeal to the lowest common denominator as it has been so much these last 5 years or so.

@Boahemaa

Жыл бұрын

@@madinp1177 I go back to watch movies from 30 years ago often. Very few hold up well today. They can't all be winners but now we have choice. Some of my favourite movies this year were on Hulu.

@NorthPhilly-zr7xc

Жыл бұрын

@@Boahemaa yes I agree but it's definitely not anymore more big move star's they fell all the way I remember back then, Arnold Schwarzenegger Sylvester Stallone Steven seagal jean claude van dame jack Nicholson so many other's where star's that you wanted to see gave us great movie's , we don't really have that anymore half these actor's I don't even know who they are most of the time I like Micheal b Jordan

@bikramarora1819

Жыл бұрын

@@Boahemaa Most 90s movies hold up much better than the homogenized sludge we get today

@dsbnh

Жыл бұрын

Good luck making new hits with new IP if you can't put someone in it to make sure they go see it. That is why sequels are more common than ever before.

Anyone who lived through the pre-internet, pre-iPhone world can feel how those changed everything. The music industry, gaming, politics… everything.

The whole concept of "the brand is the star not the actors" is older than you might think. For example back in the 1950s - 1960s movie musicals were sold more on their songbooks than the actors who appeared in them. Essentially Lerner & Lowe and Rogers & Hammerstein, the musicians and lyricists behind many musicals adapted for film during this time, were brands in and of themselves. A lot of other movies during the "Classic Hollywood" were also adapted from best selling novels or plays and as such had some brand awareness.

There seems to be more of a rise in TV stars who become movie stars, such as Zendaya. TV stars like Topher Grace leave their shows to become movie stars, only to eventually come back to TV.

@kamsismith

Жыл бұрын

I seem to be noticing that too, but it's not anything new because this method has been around since the 1980s. I'm not saying that before the 1980s, the people who were best known for their TV work weren't movie stars because that would be a lie since there was Lucille Ball. She did do movies, but she's better known for her TV work. Some people who are better known for their TV work can be successful in movies while others aren't. Of course, the movie star did die with the rise of streaming and social media similar to music videos killing the radio, making it highly doubtful that it will make a comeback. I had to put in that Video Killed the Radio Star reference because that song is relevant.

@xtltokioreal2736

Жыл бұрын

But it is nothing new, right? George Clooney, Jennifer Aniston, Michael J. Fox, they were all tv stars, most of tv star will try have a career in movies.

@zitronentee

Жыл бұрын

It's probably something new in US, but it's quite common in UK.

@akram9744

Жыл бұрын

Are they movie stars or just celebrities tho? Except for Dune(franchise), Zendaya was in no commercially successful movie.

@avalonsignoraalmas6150

Жыл бұрын

@@akram9744 she was in the Spider-Man movies and the greatest showman.

People : movie star is gone Cruise : may be so sir.....but not for me He is the one and only movie star alive (the biggest)

Yeah they're gone. The Leo/Damon generation is the last of the movie star. The influencer and Marvelization of Hollywood killed them. No one (Huge moneymaking droves) goes to see a Chris Hemsworth movie without IP, special FX, and a cape.

I kinda have to laugh/cry at Chris Pine trying to distinguish himself from the other same named actors Evans, Hemsworth, and Pratt. All of whom have done one project on TV or streaming outside their tentpole movies.

I think there's still hope for these young actors and actresses like Timothee Chalamet, Zendaya, Tom Holland, Jenna Ortega, Florence Pugh and Sydney Sweeney to become the next movie stars.

@samfilmkid

Жыл бұрын

Half the people you just mentioned will be in Dune next year

@Emma-yg2uf

Жыл бұрын

Tom Holland can’t act dude. What are you sniffing?

@charlottehaesen6984

Жыл бұрын

Anya Taylor-Joy aswell!

@2abrielle

Жыл бұрын

Pls don't forget Saoirse Ronan!

@admiralfrancis8424

Жыл бұрын

Don't forget about Millie Bobbie Brown!

I can agree with the fact that Marvel has way to much of a monopoly over the box office (I say this as a fan). And that the mid budget movie should exist. But I don’t see what’s so bad about there not being “movie stars” anymore. There are plenty of big stars out there still who have promising careers ahead of them. With the passing of time, change always comes. The “movie stars” complaining come off as whiny to me.

@jazmeenkiddo

Жыл бұрын

Exactly. Working actors should be just that and the industry would be a lot less toxic.

@samfilmkid

Жыл бұрын

I think like they said in the video it’s a sign that the movies aren’t so important anymore.

@mlw9195

Жыл бұрын

I agree

@michz9304

Жыл бұрын

I don't like celebrity worship in any way either. But it at least puts a face in the industry. Without the movie star it's these big film companies putting out movies and it gives them more power which isn't a good thing. Movie stars can have a say in their movie and characters and many times they have better ideas since they know their character more, especially when it comes to female movie stars as the industry is a predominantly male driven industry. It also gives a reason for the companies to pay actors less and with time the pay could be quite low, while they collect all the profit. Anyways... I think it's good to have a human aspect in any industry.

@trenttotten7202

Жыл бұрын

you are talking about a studio that put out 3 movies in theaters in 2022.

I love streaming!! But, I don’t think streaming will completely eradicate cinema. Movie theaters will always be here as long as we frequent them and are willing to pay extra at food concessions. I just saw Avatar 2 in theaters and whew, nothing beats imax theaters. However, I do enjoy the changes we see in Hollywood. I never really liked the idea of idolizing celebrities. They make SOOO much money and are constantly rewarded for being rich and famous. I think it’s time to humanize them

@stephennootens916

Жыл бұрын

Streaming is about to have a major shack up. HBOMax is now run by a guy who made his bones in cheap reality shows and he already said cheap shows are what he is looking for. Netflix is planning to cut back on production and all of them they show they would willing wipe out a program if it was cheaper to avoid having to pay to keep it.

@JERSEYBOYPLAY2HARD

Жыл бұрын

Sorry but actors, Writers, directors earn to be over payed. So many actors live pay check to paycheck and are working odd jobs making like 15k a year, once you get what you wanted and make it. You deserve all the riches.

@stephennootens916

Жыл бұрын

@@JERSEYBOYPLAY2HARD boo hoo, you do understand that they get residuals until the end of time with every film and show they make. That's the reason services are tossing shows even ones they made off. They not only don't make money the lose money keeping that stuff on. That's why you will now see wave after wave of cheap reality shows and doc series. Thanks to the unions they are only group of performers that get still get checks long after the gig is done.

I'm sad, because I love to go out and see all types of films in a theater, but I'm ok with the way stars are fading. There's so much diversity of expression, and that's an amazing thing.

I don't get why Aniston is included among FILM stars...she's a TV star. She always plays a version of the same character and has never attracted a big crowd to see her as a leading lady.

Our last big, big Star is definitively TOM CRUISE 🌟🌟🌟🌟🌟🌟No one is capable of doing what he does, acting, producing, own stunts, The guy is a super hero

Leonardo DiCaprio was given the best advice. NO SUPERHERO movies. 👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽

@scottbarkley496

Жыл бұрын

TOM CRUISE turned down Iron man

There's definitely been a shift from high quality movies to high quality TV shows which has resulted in lower quality movies. No one wants to spend money on a low quality movie usually cancelled by critics before its even out. When we can spend our money on subscriptions and make our own mind up on a series or a movie on a streamer. Also I do believe reality stars and tik tok influencers have diluted the movie star space. We now have access to that hidden glamour 'lifestyle'. Normal people can now go to the red carpets, fashion shows, Met galas be sent designer stuff and blog about it. So it doesn't really seem only accessible to the rich and famous anymore. Also anyone can become an actor or singer now on star power alone if they are popular enough in social media. We don't have to invest time and curiousity much into people with no real talent, as we can just move on to the next, so it's a real disposable culture now, it's horrible for the ones out there with real talent though because they are competing with literal algorithms and viral culture. But that industry has changed. Not a total bad thing, alot of people just don't like change. It doesn't affect the average person really... It hurts the production companies and the actors /singers who get paid millions and are more likely to have multiple flops rather than 1 flop every 5 years per say. I would say get on with it and move with the times. We will never be in the golden 1950's again or the innovative 1980/90's, things change, media and technology does. We can mourn the good times but something else in pop culture will take over once we tire with influencers and people with no actual ambition other than being a narcissist. I like to see how this will all play out though.

Good video, only something I notice is that they refer to the industry in the United States as the only thing there is, in countries like France, Mexico, Korea where their film industry is growing or in a fulness state, there are still young names that carry people to the movie theaters, I think broadening yours perspective would greatly enrich your work

@jjj0026

Жыл бұрын

That’s probably why I find myself watching more foreign movies than American movies these days. They have better storylines. I’m generalizing but when I think of American movies I just think superheroes, CGI, explosions. 🤷🏾‍♂️

@houseofbl1914

Жыл бұрын

Dude yes Park Seo Jeon, Lee min-Ho, Song Joon Ki literally carry the whole kdrama industry and I’ll definitely consider them Korean super stars

@AnnaBell033

Жыл бұрын

I'd also throw in C-dramas where the actors are the draw as well. Like Xu Kai, Xhou Lusi, and others

The rise and dominance of the IP as well as the increased freedom of actors, even moreso with streaming nowadays, has definitely helped this trend. No longer are performers putting out a consistent stream of similar enough movies and roles that will gather a huge loyal fanbase.

@adeptdamage3669

Жыл бұрын

Nah the rise IPS have been nothing done harm.

I still love going to the movies and try to see everything that comes out in the theater if it’s available. I’m pretty easily distracted and in theaters the screen is big, the sound envelopes you and the room is completely dark. It’s almost like sensory deprivation, you feel rejuvenated afterwards. I get that it’s wicked expensive especially if you go with a lot of people, which is why I use my membership. But I do wish more people would go to movie theaters because I do believe it’s still the best way to experience a film.

@samfilmkid

Жыл бұрын

It felt like movies were really starting to matter again before the pandemic. We had a couple of really great years in a row of movies of all sizes doing relatively well, culminating with the Best Picture winner of 2019 being “Parasite,” a foreign language movie that was an international hit and played in theaters for months. And then the pandemic happened and it all changed overnight, maybe forever. I still hope we can get back to some semblance of that but maybe I’m being naive. Personally I think a key to salvaging movies is to put more faith not in the actors but in the visions of the directors. I know I’m in the minority but for me the draw of a film has always been the director and I think it’s been that for more than a few people too. We’ve seen it pay off with Nolan, Villeneuve and Wes Anderson and hopefully we can get more of that in the future.

@sarizonana

Жыл бұрын

I feel the same way, I need the theater environment to concentrate otherwise I loose focus on the movie.

I was just talking about this the other day. That we dont really have movie stars anymore and there’s no new generation of movie stars or more specifically action stars. I was telling my husband that felt like Tom cruise is the last “movie star”

@NorthPhilly-zr7xc

Жыл бұрын

Yea it's sad I remember coming up Arnold Schwarzenegger was the man when he did a movie you watched

Personally, I say stars aren't as integral to roles as the public seems to think. Once upon a time, people would have said it's impossible to have a Mad Max movie without Mel Gibson, and yet Fury Road was great without him. People thought 007 James Bond wouldn't work without Sean Connery, and yet it kept going for decades. There are dozens of roles that have been played just fine by multiple actors, people need to give that more credit.

Everything has just lost it’s soul. Movies today are not movies. They don’t transport is to another place, they are just sterile looking products of corporate and political politics. We used to get much more movies in the past as well. Today we get maybe 4 or 5 big movies a year🤦🏼. Watched Pirates of the Carribean 3 today, absolutely incredible movie in everything from writing, characters, cgi, Practical sets and effects and so on. Movies like that are just night and day compared tI the crap we get these days

@NorthPhilly-zr7xc

Жыл бұрын

I remember I went to the movie's in the 90s to see demolition man & when I tell you the theater was packed it was packed it was something about the 90s

I’m usually drawn to a movie because of the properties like you mentioned here. But the actors I see in those properties are what attract me to more independent features

I remember when Jersey Shore came 10 years ago when the discourse of Reality Stars having a star on the Hollywood Walk of Fame. I remember people saying reality stars shouldn’t have a star on the Walk of Fame. I remember seeing this on Wendy Williams and I remember her saying “People know Snooki more than they do Christina Applegate”. Ironically enough Christina Applegate just got her star on the Walk of Fame (as she should). My point is is that the movie star has been fading for a long time with Reality Television and Streaming. However, I do have hope that the movie star will comeback with the likes of Timothee Chalamat and Zendaya just in a different form or I don’t know than the it once was. I can understand actors that want to move away from the Superhero movie. I’m also not actor ls that take on the Superhero Role.

I feel it's still the studio system, but with IP instead of actors. "Cinema" is just returning to serialized adventure movies like Buck Rogers or Sin Bad. Except now its Superheroes

I’m surprised you guys didn’t mention the international markets. Big budget movies tend to make loads of money outside of the U.S. which is another draw for studios.

The lack of mid-budget films for me is really destroying cinema. Most of my favourite films in life belong to that category. Having too many superhero and remakes is just LAZY AND BORING.

@Victorcolongarcia

Жыл бұрын

Knives out is 🤟🤟🤟

The magic moved from cinema industry movie stars to social media influncers

@bighand1530

Жыл бұрын

Pretty much the moment social media became a thing, these stars probably don’t seem so special to a lot of people anymore.

Such a good video. I've noticed this happening years ago. No room for anything other than super hero movies but streaming has allowed more shows by non-white creators to come into the market as well.

Honestly, Daniel Day-Lewis is probably the only actor now who I'd watch anything he's in regardless of genre.

@rashidapittman8513

Жыл бұрын

But he’s retired….

@scottbarkley496

Жыл бұрын

Except 90% of his movies disappointed/flopped at the box office

The concept of movie stars directly harm what movies are meant to do. An actor is supposed to be a character and that character is what the movies is supposed to be about, not the actor themselves. In the early days, an actor where just as much a film worker as the camera operator and sound recordist. That is something the industry should aspire too.

@jazmeenkiddo

Жыл бұрын

Thank you. Good Riddance to idols.

@AGirlofYesterday

Жыл бұрын

Hollywood was built on the star system, though. Ever since 1914 when Mary Pickford noticed that theaters showing her movies had longer lines of patrons in front than theaters showing other actors' movies -- and she consequently asked the studio for more money -- big star names drove the movie business through its Golden Age and beyond. I'm not saying we must return to that, but it's a fact that people went to the movies primarily to see stars, from 1913 or '14 through the 1960s, lesser in the 70s, and more so again in the 80s and 90s.

@witchplease9695

Жыл бұрын

My thoughts exactly. Well said.

@kittykittybangbang9367

Жыл бұрын

@@AGirlofYesterday It makes me wonder what it's like in other countries, where Hollywood is not a there.

@AGirlofYesterday

Жыл бұрын

@@kittykittybangbang9367 Most other countries that had thriving film industries in the 20th century followed the model pioneered by Hollywood. Their industry also depended on big stars - Italian stars, French stars, Japanese stars, Mexican stars. They raked in money for the studios, allowing them to keep creating movies.

One could also argue that the Hollywood star is now the name behind the camera instead of the face infront of the camera ... Even with franchises and sequels, it's often the directors name that gets PPL excited to watch a movie rather than the stars....

i hate superhero movies now because they are not only ultra-modified and mass-produced, but they have also made studios abandon genres like romcoms and comedies. We don't see good romcoms like we used to because they don't make the big bucks, yet that's how many of us- the audience- found our favourite movie star.

@bighand1530

Жыл бұрын

These days, I prefer more comedies and less superhero movies. And I use to be big on superhero flicks too at one point in my life.

I still enjoy seeing movies in the theater for the art and the actors.

I think there’s a lot to be said about the saturation of content as well. There are just SO MANY movies and shows to keep up with that audience numbers can only get so big. When a movie would be released before people could only really access it through the movie theater and the tape/dvd after that. Streaming has diluted all of that. The amount of content is just incredibly overwhelming. And then we have movie execs pushing to make more content to generate more and more revenue and naturally the quality of content lessens. Movies used to be stories, now they feel like commodities.

Trivia: DiCaprio was not a star when he was cast in Titanic. Romeo and Juliet had not come out yet and nothing he did before that was super popular.

@Pingpinhpinh

Ай бұрын

He was a heartthrob obviously not famous like he became after titanic that made him FAMOUS but he was liked

@Tolstoy111

Ай бұрын

@@Pingpinhpinh he was a cult actor known for appearing in films nobody went to see

@Pingpinhpinh

Ай бұрын

@@Tolstoy111 “nobody” wtf you really think America is the whole world ? Lmao people did watch him in Romeo and Juliet bc he was the “hearthrobe” regardless he was always a great actor what the fuck is your point

Today with social media and streaming, they cross over from TV and the big screen. The industry and the way we view and consume media has also reached a new era. There are positive advantages for the actor and audience to see a vast diversity and versatility. Nevertheless i feel that today the audience can have an entitled attachment to those big franchises movie. I personally prefer mid-budget movies more indie or real life less superheros big blockbusters with lots of artifice. I feel like thats what brings people to the cinema nowadays. The 3D experience etc. Still there are some exceptions. I miss those going to the cinema days though it was thrilling, but im a tech generation millennial i got to experienced both those days and the streaming days simultaneously 😅❤

@briantwiss9078

Жыл бұрын

I’m a gen z-er and I hate it. Give me the movie theaters any day of the week over streaming. The 21st century sucks.

@Biboche23

Жыл бұрын

@@briantwiss9078 i hear you. I miss those days too

@MrSpotlight101

Жыл бұрын

Couldn’t agree more!!!

@master-of-mind5881

Жыл бұрын

I disagree. Those big budget movies that you refer to such as superheroes etc are far-fetched, final fantasy media at its finest. Movies are ultimately escapism. A presentation that distracts you from reality. A story that compels you to commit from start to finish. Characters that you fall in love with and idolise. Flights of fantasy. If a movie can engage your senses, suspend your disbelief and exploit an emotional reaction then it’s done it’s job. Social media etc is nothing but a distraction. You still have the power of choice. Variety is the spice of life. Mid-low budget films are just as precious as studio features but they all contribute to diversity. One size doesn’t fit all. As a gimmick the 3D experience was the next logical step for cinema and a film like avatar proves this. An immersive experience that thoroughly engages the senses. So weather it’s an indie flick or a summer blockbuster, Cinema is still a thrilling experience.

They are still stars, its just now they are playing characters with a pre-established fanbase, Marvel, Star Wars, Game Of Thrones etc. Studios are more interested in properties than in original scripts these days. Taking a gamble at the box office in a unstable economy is just too much of a financial risk for them it seems.

Death of the movie star is also greatly tied to the death of the genre actor. Martial arts stars like Van Damme, Segal's careers started to cramble in the mid to late 90s after anyone and everyone could do 'kungfu' movies(also the influx of asian stars into hollywood). Same thing with action man roles for Stallone, Arnie. Today, a top actor indulges in all genres. Ryan Reynolds is now a comedian/action lead, drama actor/ romcom star... Back in the day Cruise, Daniel Day Lewis, Arnie, Pacino-Deniro, Julia Roberts, Denzel, Jim Carey owned their genres/niches

@cyro1079

Жыл бұрын

That's a good point too. The names you've mentioned harkens back to the Classical Hollywood era of the 40s and 50s where each star has a persona and studio manufactured image that they are attach to which plays a major role at what type of characters they would consistently play. John Wayne the traditional masculine cowboy guy would stay in his lane of Western movies. Cary Grant the charming goofy guy would be a major player in romcoms of his time. Marlon Brando the sensitive vulnerable tough guy/rebel in A streetcar named desire and On the waterfront.

@mrsam0496

Жыл бұрын

@@cyro1079 Exactly. Fred Astaire, Garland and Kelly did the dancing and music. Peck, Stewart, Gable monopolised those 'manly man's roles'. Marylin and Audrey had their goofy and romcoms, Catherine Hepburn and the immaculate Deitrich were always the strong woman .... In this way, they had their niche in which they always thrived in

in india it's quite the opposite, there's a shit ton of movie stars and it just keeps growing, and the love the fans nothing like you've ever seen, so i always find it funny people say concept of movie star is dead

@ashnaagarwal4825

Жыл бұрын

Well actually the statement you are making is only true for South other than Bollywood is actually seeing the death of stardom new generation actors don't have the stardom that 90s actors use to enjoy during their days

@seizureshoney

Жыл бұрын

@@ashnaagarwal4825in south india it’s dying out too

@mewesquirrel6720

Жыл бұрын

No one cares about India

I just discovered your channel. Wow. *REAL professional Hollywood journalism tastefully exposing the truth of our industry. Thank you.*

Leonardo DiCaprio and maybe Tom Cruise are the only ones, who still have the Mystique and Aura about them.

@merrytunes8697

Жыл бұрын

Jamie Foxx still has a mystique

@rejectionisprotection4448

Жыл бұрын

Brad Pitt, George Clooney still have that old fashioned glamour.

@Otherwise88

Жыл бұрын

Idk, Leo is well known for dating 20 year olds and Tom is regarded as crazy because of his cult involvement. Matt Damon has done a better job of keeping his distance, I think.

@jorge5275

Жыл бұрын

@@Otherwise88 what's wrong with sexy 20 year olds? 🤔

@Natta44

Жыл бұрын

Because they've not bowed down to the super hero movie. Good on them. I like when actors know their strengths. Tom in action movies and Leo in nuanced roles.

I hate that everything is moving to streaming. I really do miss DVDs. You didn't have to subscribe to a dozen different channels to find the films you like. I also lament the loss of real film. Digital all lacks interest and depth of field... Also, I don't know if it's my ADHD, but I get overwhelmed visually or find it all boring. Like it's all the same texture.

@coolida23511

Жыл бұрын

I agree. Digital feels cold and sterile. There's a certain texture and softness in film that is lost in digital.

@rejectionisprotection4448

Жыл бұрын

@@coolida23511 So true.

I absolutely loved this take! I would also just like to acknowledge there’s also that element of who has the right to be a movie star that newer forms of media allow to be more accessible… the “movie stars” physically look different than the stars of previous generations.

I'm sad Bullet Train didn't do better, it's probably one of my favorite movies I've ever seen. Great acting, great fight choreography, and great action/funny moments just kept coming at you!! Lemon was my favorite part tho, sorry Brad 😂

@JERSEYBOYPLAY2HARD

Жыл бұрын

Wait til “ The Good the Bad the Ugly and Sad” comes out.

@rickyclover9393

Жыл бұрын

Kill Bill knockoff is why it did bad. Babylon also did bad too. Too pretentious!

@bmasters1981

8 ай бұрын

My favorite part of Bullet Train was The Prince (as Joey King played her). Personally, I thought her performance of that was very much equivalent to how Larry Hagman played J.R. Ewing on Dallas on CBS from 1978-1991.

I find it so interesting that there was a star system that created movie stars, and that even though it dosen't really exist anymore here in the US, it is still seen- primarly in Kpop. While the system does have a lot of cons, the major pro I see is that it can propel people with no connections into stardom because they develop your talents in house and literally manufature your way into stardom.

People have other options now too. They spend time online. Not watching movies

This is great. I hear a lot of think pieces about the death of movie stars and mid level movies but I’d love to hear about the death of the sitcom. I recently starting doc Who and I realized I liked it because I missed the episodic nature of shows from the 90s and 2000s. After the golden age of television with madman 24, etc., we lost some thing in that regular afterschool sitcom.

@ismth

Жыл бұрын

that's another reason Abbott Elementary probably feels so refreshing to many.

Tom Cruise, Kenu Reeves, Leo De Caprio are the last remaining movie stars.

@anandyadav2848

Жыл бұрын

They all came in 90s

@New-qy5mi

Жыл бұрын

It’s just Tom Cruise but he’s fading out, they need something.. someone

very informative , thank you !

It's so rare for people to argue that the movie experience is shitty as the reason why people aren't going to the movies.

Midbudget movies employ so many more people as well and centers the movie making aspect

I've been watching more Nordic and Korean content. It's got real depth and keeps you invested.

If being a Movie Star is still becoming so well known everyone knows their name, I don’t think that the “Movie Star” is dying; just shifting. So many more TV Stars are becoming household names due to shows like: Game of Thrones, The Handmaid’s Tale, etc. which started with “Sex and the City” and “Breaking Bad”. Some big Hollywood names still only appear on the big screen like Margot Robbie. I’m only interested in the Barbie movie because she is starring for one example. Ana De Amas became known from the first Knives Out movie, and she recently had roles in the latest James Bond film, not to mention star in Blonde. I just don’t think it’s as black and white as some people make it out to be.

@christopherk222

Жыл бұрын

🤣

@akram9744

Жыл бұрын

A movie star is somebody that brings in audience no matter what movie genre he’s playing in. Someone that takes off some risk of the movie becoming a financial failure. Like Tom Cruise. People go to see the next Tom Cruise movie, but I don’t think that there’s any actors left like him

@houseofbl1914

Жыл бұрын

@@akram9744 meh respectfully i disagree. I guess it’s confusing because we call it by a different name, but actors like Timothée Chalamet, Zendaya, Tom Holland and dare I say Harry Styles have pretty strong fan bases that will watch any movie they make regardless of the genere

@akram9744

Жыл бұрын

@@houseofbl1914 I don't think any of the actors you named, can make a movie profitable solely through their fan bases. Timothee Chalamet's last movie flopped. Zendaya never was a real lead in a successful movie. Same goes for Harry Styles. Even Tom Holland can't outside of big franchises. It's not that I think that they aren't great actors (except Harry Styles, he's very limited in his abilities), but I think in this day and age, there are no movie stars. Only celebrity actors.

@houseofbl1914

Жыл бұрын

@@akram9744 yeah I see what you’re saying, I think that culture just shifted and now being a celebrity doesn’t necessarily require you to be an actor or singer anymore, literally anyone can be a celebrity now thanks to social media so ig the people I mentioned are celebrities and are famous they just aren’t “movie stars” in that sense

thats why I like watching my oldies movies that I grew up watching, best

Awesome video. When I was growing up, the line separating movie and TV stars was very, uh, distinguished. Movie actors did movies, TV actors did TV. Nowadays, everyone does a bit of everything. Sure, MOVIE STARS as I knew them don’t really exist these days but it feels like everyone is kind of on an even playing field now, which means more opportunities for everyone because the reason people consume media has changed. And yeah, influencers are the new celebrities lol

I've never been this early to one of your videos!

As Meredith Brooks once sang: "I hate the world today". Just change today for nowadays

Honestly I feel like the focus has shifted to directors as the huge draw. Before people seemed less interested in how movies were made, less interested in the overarching vision of an auteur - but now that’s changed. Most people I know have at least a passable understanding of cinema and love the signature style of particular directors, and only a few truly standout actors have draw. Even then, most of those actors do their best work with particular directors, so I go to see a pairing of director and actor. I dunno. I mean look at this movie 6:25 in - you list the movie as a possession of the director when you describe it, even though you’re talking about how it defined an actor’s career.

If Babylon was released 10 to 20 years ago, the success would’ve been huge. Different era now unfortunately. Today’s audience don’t like movies like Babylon, The Godfather, Casino, The Aviator, The Irishman, The Untouchables, Forrest Gump, Wall Street, Dances With Wolves, etc. I love that era of movies.

Wow, the editing job on this video was astonishing.

People who complain about not having movie stars, must loved the casting couch, the agents telling them who they can date, and starving themselves.

@lavonnealexander6936

Жыл бұрын

😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

Tom Cruise is the only star who can sell the movie by his name alone to worldwide audience and grossing on scale of like 500m , 1B everyone go to see the movie because of him alone not for the Directer name or studios name He is the last movie star and the biggest movie star of modern era by far

I always think about this,. Like no one "new" sticks out to me or is really a big deal like Meryl, tom, Julia , Redford, deniro,Depp...etc

Can we take a moment to consider that a series might actually be what the audience wants? The smallest detail, the story flow, all sorts are so much better with MORE time! Best current example for me is the His Dark Materials series currently showing compared to the Golden Compass film. The series is MILES BETTER than the film! To that end I'd love to see Harry Potter serialised too, maybe then they could give Ron back all the cool stuff they foisted off on Hermione!

I was part of an interview with Rich Little and Fred Travalena in Las Vegas years ago and they predicted the death of the movie star because top actors were more identifiable as people and harder to distill into personalities that could be imitated. I wish I had left that statement in my video.

I think about this often. Like will we ever see another actor with their own movie weekend like Will Smith’s Big Willy Weekend? Probably not. I personally still see movies in the theaters off the strength of a name like Denzel Washington, Will Smith & Julia Roberts. I’m not sure I’d go off the names of any newer actors. I base that off the film synopsis & trailer. I miss the mid budget films in the Theatre of the 90’s & early 2000’s so bad those were my favs. I truly hope they come back at some point. And I still buy DVD’s!!

@jadacampbell9331

Жыл бұрын

Then fewer actors would have a chance at success. If a few folks get whole slices of a pie, no one else can get the crumbs. It's better this way. Trust me

TOM CRUISE is THE BIGGEST MOVIE STAR EVER 🤚 - He's made 20 movies that grossed 100m domestically, more than any Leading Actor EVER - He's made 24 movies that grossed 200m Worldwide, more than any Leading Actor EVER We will only celebrate him when he passes away unfortunately 😔

harry styles is popular but putting him in movies is a TERRIBLE idea. I have nothing against him, im just indifferent to him but after watching 'dont worry darling' he really can't act, you can't change my mind on that. if he wants to act he needs to get acting lessons or something because I dont want him movies until he actually learns to act better

@archangeljophiel2019

Жыл бұрын

His team is either trying to make him become the next Bowie/Jagger or the next DiCaprio/Pitt. It is pretty annoying, it's like he doesn't have an innovating identity.

@mimismsx

Жыл бұрын

@@archangeljophiel2019 exactly! he really doesn't, i'd spare him the embarrassment of casting him in things for his own benefit. I just can't take him seriously as an actor, he SO bad on screen, it's actually distracting & pulls you out of the movie. I also heard they had changed bits about his character jack in DWD because all he knows is his british accent. imagine how much better his character would have been played by a more experienced actor? They had to change up bits of the story to cater to him. Which is not how movies should be made. He sticks out like a sore thumb, especially because he's performing next A-list actors, so its more noticeable when he's not doing a good job smh

@iwillhityouwithblackpinksl9879

Жыл бұрын

His team is trying so hard to make him the market leader in both industry(music and movies)

What happened to music is happening to film. There are to many parallels to point them all out. We just went through the "Britney shaving her head", "Pop music is dead", "Album sales are down, pirating is up" era of the 2000's. Then we went through a phase of forgettable artists and music pumped out just for monetary gain. Now they are just remixing old classics.

I blame social media and the internet

I actually prefer this era of movies where people go to the cinema more so because they're engrossed in on-screen stories rather than in actors. It kind of equalizes the thespians' access to getting leading roles since people are longer personally interested in the leading thespian.

Yeah. I miss the mid budget movie. Most of my favorite movies are mid budget movies. And I don’t like MCU mediocre crap, so I really don’t watch movies often at all anymore. It’s very very rare a movie comes out that I actually want to watch- and being a filmmaker was my childhood dream. My gen Z kids generally don’t see the point of movies. They are one long sitting for a single story that lacks the level of character or story development they get from Stranger Things or Parks and Rec (their favorite shows).

I have to show this to people who laughed at me when i told them that Tom Cruise is the last survivor of that 90's misterious and glamorous Hollywood of before. I said 90's because i was born in 85.

On the subject of movie ticket/DVD sales we should also touch on the cost of an average ticket, and the lack of disposable income for the average American. Couple that with regurgitating the same tired franchises. Why would the movie goer waste what little disposable income they have to watch the same formulaic hog wash over and over again. In addition to the fact that corporate media is pushing for an exploitative rental... I mean streaming based model.

I remember reading about the start of "modern recycling" starting in the 1960s, as corporations started switching from glass/metal/wood etc to plastics, and those corporations going forward encouraging the consumers to take responsibility for that change by recycling etc. I feel the change in how entertainment is produced is similar. A slow shift of shouldering the monetary responsibility from those that produce to those that consume. However, my opinion is based solely on my existence as a consumer.. so who the Hell knows. I enjoyed the video, thank you for posting.

It's very simple I think. Fifty or even 30 years ago, movies were made to attract adults to the theater to watch them, that's how we got Godfather, Taxi Driver, French Connection, Chinatown or LA Confidential. Today, movies are primarily made fot kids and teenagers who will beg their parents to pay money in order for them to watch the latest hit movie about their superhero. Audience like that doesn't appreciate some great acting, they aren't going to admire how good De Niro is as Travis Bickle or Denzel Washington as Alonzo Harris, they are more interested in graphics and special effects and the way superhero kills the bad guy in the end. Less need for good acting leads to worse movies and decline of movie stars.

@NorthPhilly-zr7xc

Жыл бұрын

Yea I agree it's to many children movies now

@mnm597

Жыл бұрын

@@NorthPhilly-zr7xc yup, and everything is some kind of reboot, remake or other re-crap made in same universe or whatever. Series have preserved quality to some extent, but I'm a movie guy, can't really bring myself to watch dozens of 40-60 minutes episode of something with varying quality between seasons.

@NorthPhilly-zr7xc

Жыл бұрын

@@mnm597 i also think it's because social media anybody can be famous now they don't care about how talented you are anymore, remember the movie she's all that with freddie prinze jr.. they remaid that movie over with he's all that & the people that star in that movie are tiktoc stars not even actors it's sad that people that have talented don't get famous anymore

@mnm597

Жыл бұрын

@@NorthPhilly-zr7xc true, you can literally get famous by posting workout/makeup routine on TikTok. Who needs acting skills when you are a social media influencer!

@NorthPhilly-zr7xc

Жыл бұрын

@@mnm597 yea it's sad all iwatch is the old movies we will never see stars like arnold schwarzenegger & Sylvester stallone & them again I think

I feel conflicted by this take… should we feel sorry for the fact that movie stars aren’t as rich and powerful and godlike as they used to be 😅

To me, I would say good riddance to the "movie star," I have never seen that presence of almost anyone being a guarantee of a film being worthwhile, although I could give the benefit of the doubt in behind-the-camera masters like Steven Spielberg in directing or Charlie Kaufman in writing with their track records. I look for a film having an interesting story with actors who are talented enough to play their part in service of it. As much as a star may get some attention in promotion, my impression is "So what, that doesn't mean their latest film is necessarily any good." With that in mind, I look at the Rotten Tomato score and see how the film is doing, and I let that heavily influence whether I should bother. To me, Star Wars: A New Hope and 1978 Superman are the epitome of this: for the most part they had predominately unknown talents like Hamill, Fisher and Ford for SW and Christopher Reeve for Superman, but they were precisely the actors needed to carry the story with tremendous talent. Yes, SW had Alec Guinness and Peter Cushing, and Superman had Marlon Brando and Gene Hackman, but the leads were the ones who proved themselves to the world. Also, the original Star Trek cast was collected back for their characters they perfected on the TV series, otherwise Hollywood largely saw them as washed up TV actors. In short, let the movie star concept die and let good talent prove themselves with each project.

Tom Cruise is the last movie star.

I’m noticing the same thing in music. No real superstars anymore (the ones that were are still here tho ) So it seems they don’t do artist development anymore, same thing is happening in Hollywood. That explains why they all seem so replaceable

@NorthPhilly-zr7xc

Жыл бұрын

Fact's it seems like that in everything now smh I miss the 80s 90s & early 2000s

I do like the many options of seeing film and television. I think the degree of artistic freedom is astounding versus the studio system days, but what connects is that the U.S. market is all about money, and I am concerned that creating predictable box office draws without creating rich characters and not giving room for an actor to develop their craft because money over art is the U.S. film market, it makes it harder. Not to mention, how these films really make it more and more challenging to see a dramatically literate performance. We don't want art, we want box office. If we get both, we are lucky.