“They’re not screaming in agony. They’re screaming in the agony of defeat.”

@WythenshawePhil

Жыл бұрын

So, agony then.

@corsojames

Жыл бұрын

so not in agony, agony

@SuperCatacata

Жыл бұрын

Considering the radical mindset of some Japanese with taking your own life before giving the enemy that privilege. I'd almost believe it. Being roasted like a chicken couldn't have been viewed as an honorable death.

@YRO.

Жыл бұрын

"They're not screaming in agony. They're screaming in shame of defeat."

@OverRule1

Жыл бұрын

​@@YRO. Poor soldiers. The pain of defeat is so intense that the soldiers are doing them a favor with the flamethrowers. They are actually screaming for more flamethrower because the pain of defeat is so painful

"The flamethrower is painless!" "You first, then."

@y33t544

11 ай бұрын

💀

@HellJumper80

11 ай бұрын

Burns the nerves off thank god

@Kistor306

8 ай бұрын

Actually in the movie “Saving Private Ryan" as zbe Amerikans rushes to the German Bunkers and cooks them out. In the role of the MC(i think it was Tom Cruise??) he said let them burn!!!!! Sooo hmmm

@XXAnthonyCarmineXx

8 ай бұрын

@@Kistor306tom hanks man cmon

@Kistor306

8 ай бұрын

@@XXAnthonyCarmineXx I'm sorry 😅. Even i am not even as old to watch the film okk 😂

The flamethrower is a weapon of mercy, but the shotgun is a war crime. Makes perfect sense.

@wcge5842

Жыл бұрын

America during ww1...

@PuuroLehma

10 ай бұрын

Yes

@BertzTriscut

8 ай бұрын

Great War Germans be like:

@stanleybroniszewsky8538

7 ай бұрын

Sure. But it's also very risky. There's always the chance the fuel tank can be shot from behind by an enemy or if it malfunctions and explodes.

@lunartears6761

7 ай бұрын

Wait, using a shotgun in battle is a war crime?😦

"They're not screaming that's just oxygen deprivation"

@SalSanchez-dy6cn

3 ай бұрын

**flaps hands

@Firstname137

Ай бұрын

Well besides not being able to breath, if you caught fire. We had an instructor who would tell us random "facts" about weapons and tactics that were used during ww2. On one occasion, he mentioned that a person with a flame thrower only needed to give a few short bursts to ignite the entrance of a cave or opening in a bunker and that it would basically suck the air out and replace it with carbon monoxide. There are written accounts from soldiers who witnessed them being used and finding the bodies of enemy soldiers looking "pristine" during death. As in the bodies had no signs of injuries that would have killed them.

"Just ignore the screams of agony, boys. That's...uh...just a part of Japanese culture, they aren't actually in any pain."

@subarunatsuki4145

Жыл бұрын

Moaning is part of culture, I can confirm. The best way to go is with Napalm.

@asssalt7347

Жыл бұрын

"Listen, if the flamethrower actually hurt them, they'd say so, instead of screaming those nonsensical sounds."

@nathanjones6638

Жыл бұрын

As much as I like the Japanese culture and people of today, they thought Bataan was a great laugh. Flamethrowers and two nukes stuck that laughter right in their throats.

@cazador7131

Жыл бұрын

America wasn't the only combatant to use the flamethrower. Basically every major faction has their own version. So what's Jonny screaming about then sarge? Ummm...

@jamesrosewell9081

Жыл бұрын

​@@nathanjones6638 true

My Dad was a BAR gunner in the USMC during WW2 he would talk about flamethrowers and napalm and how fast they took the fight out of the Japanese. Painless was not a word he used to describe it.

@lstt89

Жыл бұрын

Three Japanese soldiers walk into a BAR... *Splatsplatsplat*

@drudriver3660

Жыл бұрын

@@lstt89 Dad was a big strong guy stood 6 foot 4 inches in the pacific at the time he weighed 180 pounds. They always stuck the big guys with BARs because of the weight. Dad loved the BAR and before he died I managed to find and buy him a 90% semi auto BAR. The last few years of his life he and I spent a lot of time on the range. I Wouldn’t trade a minute for all the gold in the world. Dad was a trip up to the day he died his hair was high and tight. I’ve always kept a k-bar he gave me years ago. One day he was looking at it and said “boy you got a good edge on this blade why don’t you give me a haircut” So I did I shaved his head like a cue ball with a K-bar. He was in his 70s then no wonder the Japanese had such a hard time. Those men were just natural born bad asses.

@vindin5

Жыл бұрын

It's a fast post abortion method and I like it lmao.

@vindin5

Жыл бұрын

​@Dru Driver yeah but you also gotta remember most of those guys your dad served with including your dad. They prolly did 7 tours before the hit Iwo jima. The badassery was crazy back then.

@Toto_Meister_01

Жыл бұрын

BAR is my favourite gun, or at least WW2 gun, but being British I can’t have one (unless I can find a deactivated one), so I’ve been looking for an airsoft version for years, but they’re no longer made so need to find a second hand one which is not easy

Once a Veteran of the Vietnam War (or in Vietnam The American War) came to my school to tell his story. He described being trapped in a motel and hearing Vietnamese soldiers on the other side of the wall talking about breaching and killing him. The man was equipped with a flamethrower, and before he says what he does he gets very emotional because it was pure horror for everyone involved. He stuck the nozzle of the flamethrower into the vent and pulled the trigger, which then blasted flames into adjacent room, and all he could do was sit and listen to them scream and cry. He then explained that this is the reason the weapon is banned for all. It is a grotesque and inhumane way to handle a political issue.

@masonmcgrew9790

6 ай бұрын

Yea people cry when they get shot as well funnily enough but we haven't banned guns in war

@capitcha

4 ай бұрын

did he speak Vietnamese? or did they somehow talk in english

@aReallySwellGuy

4 ай бұрын

@@capitcha he spoke Vietnamese yes

@gatsbymaguire

4 ай бұрын

poor guy ☹️ having to do such a thing in a war he and many more people didn't want

@kingfish2703

3 ай бұрын

How? Flame throwers shoot a liquid that sticks to surfaces so it wouldve been stuck on the floor or did I understand it wrong?

As a person who died from flamethrower, I can confirm that it was instant and painless.

@vijay32570

3 ай бұрын

Cool

@TheRealPetahGriffin

3 ай бұрын

makes sense

@garymathena2125

3 ай бұрын

Just his brain. LOL

@adamstevens3263

Ай бұрын

Oh good I was starting to think otherwise

@herrknecht

Ай бұрын

Because you died from airblast

Build a man a fire and you warm him for a day, set a man on fire and you warm him for the rest of his life.

@elkabong6429

Жыл бұрын

Wise words! 😂😂😂

@visionist7

Жыл бұрын

The child shunned by the village will burn it down to feel its warmth

@michaelharis9962

Жыл бұрын

the rest of his life yea...... which wont last long

@raymondmoore2707

Жыл бұрын

Well done you savage!👍🫡

@doctor_doge5621

Жыл бұрын

💀💀💀💀

Was the bloodcurdling screaming not obvious or anything? Lmao

@eric-pn7eg

Жыл бұрын

Exactly

@brett9382

Жыл бұрын

To be fair, though, there's still going to be screams from just getting shot or blown in half by artillery.

@Prizrak131

Жыл бұрын

@@brett9382 But those can end quickly. Getting headshotted by a bullet or taking a direct hit from artillery. With flamethrowers chances are it won't be fast and painless

@kg7162

Жыл бұрын

​@@brett9382 did you ever burn your self with hot coffee or oil? Just for the little comparison

@tmartin3151

Жыл бұрын

Humanity goes out the window when you are at war. Ww2 Marines psyche were so distorted that the Commander in Chief of the Pacific Fleet ordered in 1942 that "No part of the enemy's body may be used as a souvenir.”

"War is never humane, but is a human thing to do." -Sun Tzu (probably)

@TheMaxWhoKnewTooMuch

4 ай бұрын

He has a whole chapter devoted to the use of fire. It's one of the parts where it gets philosophical as well.

@stateofflorida5082

2 ай бұрын

​@@TheMaxWhoKnewTooMuchThe whole book is essentially a daoist text. It just gets less subtle at that chapter

@masterimbecile

Ай бұрын

War. War never changes.

@gambigambigambi

12 күн бұрын

​@@stateofflorida5082Daoist? Or Taoist?

@stateofflorida5082

12 күн бұрын

@@gambigambigambi Those are both the same thing

"The flamethrowers are painless" "What about all the enemy rolling in agony?" "What? No, I'm talking about me, I don't feel a thing not even remorse" *FWOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOSH*

@chzll7301

Ай бұрын

Lore accurate conversation:

“Fun fact: the flamethrower actually hurts like hell” who would’ve thought

@Mmjk_12

Жыл бұрын

Anyone that has thought? Lmao 2000 degree flames would destroy your nerve endings in seconds. Not to mention shock and oxygen deprivation as the flames enter your lungs and suffocate you.

@worldcomicsreview354

Жыл бұрын

​@@Mmjk_12 There is footage of a fire at a football match in the UK, a burning man is being escorted away and is walking rather calmly considering he is on fire.

@apetogetherstrong6600

Жыл бұрын

@@Mmjk_12it doesn’t get that hot. There is water(blood) in the body that needs a lot of energy to vaporize before the heat totally destroys the nerve endings. It probably look like steamed for a few minutes because of the moisture. And Thats why we need need to pat steak dry before searing.

@Mmjk_12

Жыл бұрын

@@apetogetherstrong6600 Google says flamethrowers are around 1800-1900 degrees fahrenheit which is around 1000 degrees celsius. A steak 'sears' at less than a fifth of that. The fuel also sticks to you so the heat transfer is much much more efficient, unlike an oven or pan. There's also the fact the nerve endings are in the skin on the surface and would be seared near instantly as the skin isn't moist. You would be dead before the rest of you fully burnt.

@Juhani96

Жыл бұрын

Very fun

"After we examine and check your file, we determine that your 3rd degree burn is not service related" Edit: holy cow i did not expect this many likes!. Fyi in my country, a soldier and his family get health and monetary benefits for life. Even after he pass away, the monetary benefit is passed down to the widow.

@georgepoggington4896

Жыл бұрын

More like 2nd degree burns fr, the VA really tries to push those benefits away.

@obeastness

Жыл бұрын

lol there is always that guy.

@danielaramburo7648

Жыл бұрын

VA: you lost both legs and arms, is blind, needs an assistant 24/7 to live…… we declare you 5% disabled.

@MLBlue30

Жыл бұрын

It's like a warm bath really, or a hot tub soak at worst.

@dullahan7677

Жыл бұрын

In late '52 my father was hit by a mortar round in Korea, sustaining injuries that eventually forced him from the Army in 1958. We just got his Army disability benefits going last year. He just turned 90. This is 100% truth. The kicker, he wasn't granted benefits for his injuries, but for deafness that one astute young Dr determined was "due to excessively loud report of weapons in military engagements",,😉. The guy was new and not yet ground down by the weight of red tape one accrues during such a career. Good ol' Uncle Sam, boning the Veteran for nearly two and a half centuries.

The Germans in WWI: this is fine

@ThomasTheAlphaAndOmega8509

29 күн бұрын

Das ist in ordnung

“No they’re not screaming, it’s just like when you cook a baked potato and it whistles.”

I was burned on 65% of my body due to a plane crash in 2011. I’ve undergone 68 surgeries, lost 2 fingers, had my entire nose reconstructed, and gone through countless hours of physical/occupational/ psychological therapy. I’m blessed to be alive and will never take any day for granted ever again. Burns are one of the worst experiences a human can endure. I empathize with all who have or who are currently undergoing treatment for burns. I would never wish them on my worst enemy.

@sukmeeballz8327

Жыл бұрын

You are incredibly strong. I suffered my own terrible horror story and know what its like. I can relate to some point- although i went through 9 surgeries..not 68😢. Spent years in a wheelchair. I think the difficult part for me and my experience/journey to heing was the fact i was only 20yrs old..Loved basketball-motocross-snowboarding. I was extremly active..and just like that - in a split second everything was taken-everything changed. So when i came out of my 2 week coma..it was a hard thing to accept. I basicay spent the next 8-9 months on my back unable to move, roll over..nothing. it was a buge job just to move me to another part of the hospital for certain treatments. So they did as much as possible on the spot. Even my x rays were done from my room with a movable x ray machine. It was HELL .. Now 20 years later im still dealing with lotts of medication- still do physiotherapy and my life has changed COMPLETELY. But the day I STOP fighting is the day i DIE. We are survivors- God Bless you ❤ Keep on fighting you are awesome❤

@minjajovanovic6501

Жыл бұрын

​@@sukmeeballz8327You both are awesome

@dberry4445

Жыл бұрын

I'm so sorry that you had to go through this mate. I genuinely couldn't imagine going through this and I wish it was impossible for any human to go through suffering like you've felt but honestly fair play for battling on! I hope you have an incredible life from now on ❤

@Mugiwara2k

Жыл бұрын

Christ, I am so sorry you had to endure that. You have a will of steel, because I don't think I could live through all that.

@superderby389

Жыл бұрын

Is your dick still fine or did you lose that too?

The grandfather of a friend of mine was a flamethrower trooper in the Pacific theater, and said that the biggest things that haunt him were not the yells, but the distinct sounds of people popping (their skin) from all the way inside murder holes/foxholes/secret tunnels, when they would blast flames into them. Horrible…

@samobrien4046

Жыл бұрын

What you got to remember is the japs in their tunnels were nasty bastards, using a flame thrower was nothing compared to what they did to allied troops. My grandad was a PoW in Burma and had some stories about what the japs used to do.....

@WolfgangSchreiber.

Жыл бұрын

Oh wow...

@Ja2808R

Жыл бұрын

Cracklin’ anyone? It’s fresh with a pinch of sea salt!

@alexiaandreas4299

Жыл бұрын

@@The_Rat463 japs raped over 10,000 women in nan king they deserved in 😂

@WolfgangSchreiber.

Жыл бұрын

@@Ja2808Rnot now please I'm still trying to process the fact that peoples skin pop when they're burnt

DOD lawyers were trying their best to keep flame throwers from being banned.

@Mossy500A

4 ай бұрын

They are legal to own.

Probably a good way to talk the flamethrower operator from ptsd

"it's just gas escaping"

@DaniSC_real

Жыл бұрын

with a little spark

@isnotmaybe9165

Жыл бұрын

Lobster joke

@johnruggio9862

Жыл бұрын

That’s what you say to my butt after I fart

@TheInquisitionOfMan

Жыл бұрын

“AAAAAAAAAAAAH MY SKIN IS BUBBLING” “See John painless and humane”

@user-tr7hv2fp8q

Жыл бұрын

​@@isnotmaybe9165 so that's the reference does that mr krab meme also counts? Where he got boiled alive

My Grandpa told me they died howling like shrieking like wild animals. Just insane

@H982FKL-TG

Жыл бұрын

How 'painless' it was

@dothedewinme

Жыл бұрын

Yikes dude. I imagine that stays with you until you die or can’t remember your name

@Munnwort

Жыл бұрын

they were just weak, I could’ve handled it

@matthewketelhut4966

Жыл бұрын

@@Munnwort damn bro

@whatjustflewby

Жыл бұрын

@@Munnwort your name makes this so much better

Thank you for your service in keeping history alive.

*screams of agony* "the horrible screaming means that it's working"

the screams are actually just them trying to shout a 'thank you' for giving them a painless death

@somerandomdragon558

Жыл бұрын

Its just gas escaping their lungs.

@H982FKL-TG

Жыл бұрын

ThANk yOooOoOUUUU

Bros like “naw they’re like lobsters that’s not screaming it’s steam escaping”

@notanonymous3976

4 ай бұрын

lobsters scream?

@HellbirdIV

4 ай бұрын

@@notanonymous3976 They don't, they don't have lungs. Lobsters like most crustaceans breathe through gills and are physically incapable of expelling air in a way to scream.

@Corgicooll

3 ай бұрын

@@HellbirdIVyou learn something new every day thx

@SaberRexZealot

3 ай бұрын

“Steam from the steamed clams we’re having. Mmmm, steamed clams!”

@ThaRealERAQ

3 ай бұрын

this should be the highest liked comment.

Pyro in team fortress 2 be like

“The flamethrower is actually painless and quite humane” “Care to prove that?”

Yeah it was a massive cope to stop PTSD, giving a coping mechanism to the men tasked with burning people alive. There’s a reason whole German platoons would surrender to a Churchill crocodile- and that captured flame operators were often shot instead of being made POWs.

@teddymonadnock9724

Жыл бұрын

Just shot?! 🤣🤣🤣

@mostlyharmless7154

Жыл бұрын

@@teddymonadnock9724 yup 😅 a similar sitch to captured German tank crews who in their all black uniforms, were often mistaken for SS

@PSDuck216

Жыл бұрын

@@mostlyharmless7154 Or even German Reichsbahn (railway) workers in black overalls.

@AdamOwenBrowning

Жыл бұрын

@@PSDuck216 wahey, thanks for teaching me something new today. Poor railway workers mistaken for ardent members of the SS!

@worldcomicsreview354

Жыл бұрын

​@@AdamOwenBrowning Well these days the "more empathic" people who "read books" think all WW2 Germans were either Nazis, or agreed with everything the Nazis did by default if they didn't stage an armed uprising. These same people also went through four years of beleiving the US government was putting Hispanic children in concentration camps, but did not stage an armed uprising.

"The screams are just hot air exiting their lungs"

My men putting on the real-life provision goggles

When your enemy refuses to surrender with no hope of victory and burrows into the ground...

“Death by flamethrower is painless” - Ki-Adi-Mundi on Geonosis

@IronClique

Жыл бұрын

Lol. Those Damm dirty bugs had it coming

@williamswain2303

Жыл бұрын

This is an underrated comment

@Yamsthenills

Жыл бұрын

I don't care what anyone says, that man was NOT on the light side of The Force

@leonniyawski3929

8 ай бұрын

I'm not on the side of the breaker of the cosmic Geneva convention space wizard. But to be fair, geonosis is almost entirely consistent of cave systems. And in WW2 flamethrowers were very effective at clearing out bunkers so you know... I know where he's coming from, and he kinda had to justify the use of flamethrowers somehow so ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

@JoshuaCastillo6309

7 ай бұрын

Same mofos who built the Death Star.

"It's perfectly painless and humane!" * cut to man burning alive, screaming out the last oxygen molecule in his lungs * "Yep, totally painless and humane."

@toomanyaccounts

Жыл бұрын

studies showed deaths were from carbon monoxide poisoning. the flamethrower puts out a ton of carbon monoxide. when bodies were pulled out of spiderholes and bunkers most of the dead bodies showed no signs of being exposed to flame or increased temp. death was instant

@ReasonAboveEverything

Жыл бұрын

They knew. It was a blatant lie that served a purpose. Just like we today lie that immigration from Africa and middle east doesn't correlate with rocketing crime rates.

@jawswasnevermyscene4258

Жыл бұрын

Narrator : he wasn't

@masonmcgrew9790

6 ай бұрын

You don't scream when you're hit with a flame thrower

The only time the flamethrower killed by oxygen deprivation was when they used it on a tunnel entrance. The flames would eat up and suck the oxygen out of the tunnel so it killed deeper into the tunnel than the flames could actually go. It's what made the flamethrower so popular.

The military never lies….right.

Flamethrower operators: "I need decades of therapy for this" Officers: "you're fiiiine" (Source for extra credit: my grandfather, who used one as part of 3rd Batllion 1st Marines in Korea)

@kaithegamer1122

Жыл бұрын

That one NCO:Shake it off you’ll be killing more

@ineedapharmists

Жыл бұрын

@@kaithegamer1122 old school USMC had a thin line between discipline and torture.

@Mortablunt

Жыл бұрын

Flamethrowerman: “Nothing is ever going to make me OK again after this.” Officer: “You troops say the darndest things sometimes.”

@drudriver3660

Жыл бұрын

@@Mortablunt Gunny would have said “son you got a problem with something as American as a Barbecue?” 🍖

@worndown8280

Жыл бұрын

My ex wife's grandfather was in Korea. He did body retrieval in the Army. They were never sober. He never talked to anyone about it. But when she told him I was a Marine all the stories came out. If your father is still around, tell him semper fi.

I remember playing army men 3d when I was a kid and using the flamethrower to melt the enemy and watch them slowly stiffen up as they screamed and laughed now as a adult I just sit there in horror knowing now how realistic that is to real life as I play it

@helpful8228

Жыл бұрын

That game went hard to no reason tho

@shadowling77777

Жыл бұрын

Fun game

@GameFuMaster

Жыл бұрын

then you laughed

@dingus6317

Жыл бұрын

It’s why so many developing countries use child soldiers they don’t have developed empathy yet

@dweebus3698

Жыл бұрын

That game was the goat

"they aren't screaming that's just steam escaping, just like a lobster"

They were screaming in joy of how painless it was😊

@mihailpuran6185

11 күн бұрын

😂😂😂😂

'Man, that guy sure is running around and screaming a lot. Good thing the flamethrower is painless otherwise I'd feel bad having used it on him.'

@stanleybroniszewsky8538

7 ай бұрын

A flamethrower was instant death. Napalm was far worse. You didn't necessarily die. Just a flaming gel that sticks to the skin and causing permanent damage, making the person pray for death.

@masonmcgrew9790

6 ай бұрын

@stanleybroniszewsky8538 napalm was deployed as a bomb you don't feel being blown up by a 1000lbs bomb they were used to remove foliage mostly

@JoeSmith-qy6qo

5 ай бұрын

@@stanleybroniszewsky8538why scream then

@name18745

5 ай бұрын

@@stanleybroniszewsky8538are the screams just air being pushed out of their lungs by the smoke then

I love the idea that "no the man isn't screaming in pain while desperately trying to extinguish the flames on himself, these are just post mortem spasms from such a quick death"

@collinthegamer510

Жыл бұрын

💀

@somerandomdragon558

Жыл бұрын

And just gas escaping the lungs.

@clayblob2

Жыл бұрын

​@@somerandomdragon558 😭😭😭

The bad guy: Ahh ahhh ahhh ahhh Peter Griffin: it's just air escaping

oxygen deprivation and shock both are things that do not kill instantly lmao

Anyone who has experienced even a minor 1-2 degree burn knows burns are damn painful. Way more painful than your average tissue injury caused by cuts or crushing or whatever maiming. The pain is constant and way more intense

@alexashworth3119

Жыл бұрын

I've had burns from gasoline straight out of a can. I've also been burned by aluminum inguit that just became a solid. I've had my skin get boiled like a liquid from being held against a hot 🔥 motor too. Didn't feel a thing from the hotter burn from inguit. It literally dented my arm but I could t feel it. I suppose it all depends how "we'll done" you were burned. I would guess most fellows had most of their nerves scorched but I don't know. Wouldn't they go Into shock and probably cardiac arrest? Wild stuff.

@alexashworth3119

Жыл бұрын

I've had burns from gasoline straight out of a can. I've also been burned by aluminum inguit that just became a solid. I've had my skin get boiled like a liquid from being held against a hot 🔥 motor too. Didn't feel a thing from the hotter burn from inguit. It literally dented my arm but I could t feel it. I suppose it all depends how "we'll done" you were burned. I would guess most fellows had most of their nerves scorched but I don't know. Wouldn't they go Into shock and probably cardiac arrest? Wild stuff.

@SirPlusOfCamelot

Жыл бұрын

@@alexashworth3119 There's a reason why they run around screaming. It is not painless.

@alexashworth3119

Жыл бұрын

@@SirPlusOfCamelot Yeah true. Still seemed effective for certain applications though.

@Someone-cd7yi

Жыл бұрын

3rd degree burns don't hurt at all actually as the nerves in the deeper tissues of the skin get destroyed.

A korean war vet who was flame thrower operator once told me "when in doubt, burn em out". He was talking about fox holes and bunkers that they were not sure had been clear yet

@GameFuMaster

Жыл бұрын

probably should do that in Ukraine too

@gratefulguy4130

Жыл бұрын

​@@GameFuMaster yeah, that would work wonders on the people running the country.

@nextdoornikkixoxo9806

Жыл бұрын

I can only imagine somebody saying that and then unleashing utter hell into the fox hole . Not funny but I can still Imagine . It’s so crazy

@johnathanblackwell9960

Жыл бұрын

@@nextdoornikkixoxo9806 I thought it was hilarious, but I'm also a combat vet so I get it

@bingobongo1615

Жыл бұрын

You know, big issue with that is that civilians tend to also take shelters in holes and bunkers… The US troops killed thousands of Okinawan women and children when torching any possible hideout… I doubt it didn’t happen in Korea either

There is no easy way to describe what being burned to death is like, but one way is to imagine how long it takes to cook a steak.

"he's fine, just ignore the screaming and the smell of charred flesh"- unnamed Canadian general

A well known KZreadr by the name of Lindybeige did a video on this subject where he asked the question what was the most effective British weapon in WW2, and suggested it was the Churchill Crocodile flame thrower equipped tank. He figured it was the most effective because enemy troops ran away or surrendered the moment they encountered them because the idea of being burnt alive was too horrifying.

@chrismath149

Жыл бұрын

Okay, I like Lindy as much as the next guy but anyone who says that example X is the most effective weapon ever does not understand war very well. Lindy is very biased when he makes videos about British weapons (see the Bran debacle).

@crazymonkey3331

Жыл бұрын

@@chrismath149 You're right, but the guy's such a gifted storyteller and presenter that he's fun to watch talking about just about anything. Just take anything he says with a massive pinch of salt.

@cybertronian2005

Жыл бұрын

Wouldn't the most effective weapon kill lots of enemy soldiers too, as opposed to make them run away so they can fight another day lol

@chrismath149

Жыл бұрын

@@cybertronian2005 Historically battles were rare occasions. Only technological advances made large-scale and time-consuming wars possible. If you force the enemy to run you might have won the war. In modern war it is easier to kill or maime an enemy but making him run might still be cheaper since you don't need to spend bullets and blood on forcing him to do so.

@Croz89

Жыл бұрын

@@cybertronian2005 The most detrimental thing you can do to your enemy is to wound them, not kill them. A dead soldier is a loss, but it's not a continuing liability for the most part. A wounded soldier is a drain on resources, requiring medical evac and hospital care. That's what the punji traps the vietcong used were for, they weren't designed to kill (though they did kill a few), but to maim badly enough to put that soldier out of action and impose an economic and personnel burden on the military by that soldier requiring long term medical care. Less than 1000 deaths were attributed to punji traps, but about 2% of injuries were. Capturing your enemy does impose a burden on your resources, but it can be worth it as you can use your captured soldiers to extract intelligence, raise money through ransoms, or even trade for your own in a POW exchange.

"It's like dipping your toe in a hot bath for just a second." - American Flame Thrower Man 🔥

@bermchasin

Жыл бұрын

if the hot bath were 2000 degrees, inside of you and took away all the oxygen around you.

@GlitchedBlox

Жыл бұрын

Flamethrower class

@josephmother2659

Жыл бұрын

“Aaand then you’re dead”

@LesangdesdieuX

Жыл бұрын

It's not like people knew about flame thrower brutality from WW1 right The hard truth is it was very efficient and quick to dislodge fanatic japanese soldiers from pillboxs so they would rather use it to limit their own losses and gain time wich makes sense from a military perspective, it was no vacation so they tried do end it the quickest way possible.

@extremeequalist932

Жыл бұрын

You say it as if the germans didnt do it too, but oh let me guess its more fun picking at americans because itll get you more likes on youtube?

The Churchill with the flamethrower on it is one of the most terrifying weapons ever conceived

That shot from Private Ryan of the solider running up to the pillbox with the flamethrower and just torching it...that scene still gives me the chills in the worst way possible

Some Japanese soilder: oh my God this hurts so much! USMC with flamer: no it doesn't the study they told me in boot camp said so.

@ebenade1

Жыл бұрын

"Source?" 🤓

@naamadossantossilva4736

10 ай бұрын

​@@ebenade1"I made it the fuck up"

@masonmcgrew9790

6 ай бұрын

The Japanese do like to lie to Gi's

"Dude, don't worry, being killed by a flamethrower is totally painless! Trust me!" -Countries that _REALLY_ want to use flamethrowers

@Klongu_Da_Bongu

Жыл бұрын

I just imagine Elon Musk sitting on a mountain of flamethrowers with the biggest innocent smile on his face

We really using the lobster defense saying, “It’s the sound of air escaping the body.”

The news would never lie to us!!

I feel like the flamethrower is so terrifying that it is more likely to have the enemy surrender quickly than try to fight until it completely engulfs your position in flames.

@kane357lynch

Жыл бұрын

They also would just try extra hard to shoot you

@homeygfunkoffacherryfruitl4971

Жыл бұрын

That was a big part of why it was used besides its effectiveness at getting entrenched troop in their holes. Lotta dudes would just straight dip out or surrender if a flamethrower was in the area. I don't blame them either, I'd be like "Fuck this I ain't getting cooked well done."

The Flamethrower is a lethal weapon of pure terror.. in the opening scenes of Saving Private Ryan.. when they first Grenade and then flamethrower the bunker.. you here the soldier below.. “don’t shoot them let them burn”….!!! That says it all.. all the surface nerves of your body enraged at once…. That is not painless.. that is hell / hades…

@teddymonadnock9724

Жыл бұрын

You’ll probably feel cold when you get to Hell

@braxtonspears9559

Жыл бұрын

You just reminded me of the first mission in world at war where the soldier runs out on fire but if you shoot him it stops the fire. You get an achievement called "saving private ryan"

@homeygfunkoffacherryfruitl4971

Жыл бұрын

Mercifully with how hot a flamethrower can get your nerves would probably get seared off relatively quick, so while yes it WOULD be incredibly painful it probably only would be for like 20 seconds before you die from shock or oxygen deprivation. *But damn what a long 20 seconds that would be.*

@hisss

Жыл бұрын

​@@braxtonspears9559 iirc, you need to shoot his burning attacker before he gets a chance to set Ryan ablaze as well. Ryan needs to survive the incident for the trophy to unlock.

@oranges557

Жыл бұрын

But in the same time, all of your nerves on the skin get destroyed almost instanly, because a flame thrower gets up to 1000 degree celsius. So youll probably be dead in a few terrible seconds

The M2 Flamethrower was also still in use during Korea, 1st Marine Division used them when they landed at Inchon

I remember a documentary about a soldier that got issued this weapon... he was sick at using it first for oxygen deprivation... too. He got assigned a BAR and loved it even with it's tremendous weight.

I believe that the armies that used flamethrower knew it was painful, obviously, but tried to lie and convinced their own troops that it doesn’t so they don’t feel bad or get PTSD from having to torch people alive.

@worldcomicsreview354

Жыл бұрын

Like saying the gun turrets on bombers had "armour plate" which would stop the bullets from Zeroes.

@BobLuvsBoobies

Жыл бұрын

PTSD didn’t exist then 😂 you just do it or we all died those were the stakes, no article 15 nonsense

@kingsarues1586

Жыл бұрын

​@Bobbydeejones PTSD was known about since WW1 it just had a different name and brutal treatments.

@username_pending1328

Жыл бұрын

​@@BobLuvsBoobies it was called "shell shock" and it was seen as weakness.

@collinthegamer510

Жыл бұрын

@@BobLuvsBoobies because now people randomly wake up in a cold sweat because the artillery fire comes back in their heads

I would think the flamethrower was also a pretty frightening weapon for the user, even with the flame being directed away from him. Imagine walking through a battlefield with all that fuel on your back.

@fritztm9261

Жыл бұрын

Self-sealing tanks plus the fact the fuel would just leak out if punctured makes it a lot safer than what Hollywood wants you to believe

@itzAndy03

Жыл бұрын

Yah in the cod waw I used to shoot the gas tanks on there backs

@the_irs_real

Жыл бұрын

actually the gas tanks would not explode unless shot by incendiary rounds and incendiary rounds werent developed yet

@entireanarchy2293

Жыл бұрын

@@the_irs_real yes they were? Infact they even used them during ww1 Edit to add: a lot of tracer rounds also doubled as incederary rounds.

@the_irs_real

Жыл бұрын

@@entireanarchy2293 my bad i phrased it wrong i meant that incendiary rounds werent widespread among most troops

I heard that the brits had the scariest flamethrower because the had a gel like substance that would stick to you instead of just burning you

One thing my grandfather used to wake up screaming most nights was the dying screams of men burning alive after being hit with a flamethrower. There was a reason why flamethrower operators were shot on the spot if taken prisoner, by all sides. Remember these reports were in a time when smoking was good for you.

After a while it isn't the screams that bother you. Just the silence afterwards.... That's what is deafening.

@husky0098

11 ай бұрын

That's what she said-

You gotta admit, "Mercy Hose" does have a ring to it.

Burning alive is the most painful fate one cant endure. especially when getting shot and Continuously getting hosed with feul.

I was watching All Quiet on the Western Front and that flamethrower scene gave me shivers. I don’t know what he’s talking about, but I’ll take a 1,000 rounds from a machine gun before take the flame thrower.

@timmerwerk5393

Жыл бұрын

Same. I'm pretty desensitized to gore/violence/etc in movies but that was a horrible scene and it stuck in my mind for a bit

@teddymonadnock9724

Жыл бұрын

@@timmerwerk5393 it wasn’t even the actual burning part. It was the background music. That horn. Then, they just stepped out the abyss and you just heard the blood curdling screams.

Apparently my great-grandfather attached a flamethrower to a tank at some point during the war, and then ironically he took up a career in firefighting afterward.

@H982FKL-TG

Жыл бұрын

What a redemption

@John_shepard

Жыл бұрын

Probably had some guilt after seeing first hand the damage it could inflict on humans.

@arson1tez

Жыл бұрын

lmao

@samon53

Жыл бұрын

First time in a while I've seen someone actually use ironically correctly. Nice.

Didn’t… didn’t anyone back then remember that burning at the stake was used as a capital punishment?!

Ah yes a weapon of mercy

I love seeing our younger generation interested in WWII and learning history. 🇺🇸💪

@heinzaballoo3278

Жыл бұрын

Gotta learn about those friendly neighbourhood concentration camps somehow.

@Name-ps9fx

Жыл бұрын

They're only learning the good parts of it. War is hell, and the first casualty is always the truth.

@Anonymous-hx3pu

Жыл бұрын

​@@Name-ps9fx what's good about people burning to death? I mean I don't mind the thought of torching some Nazis, but most people would consider that unnecessarily cruel.

@josh05683

Жыл бұрын

@@Anonymous-hx3puIt’s good to know the brutality because a lot of kids today who grow up playing COD glorify war as fun. Well, they need to learn the truth. Our schools don’t do shit in that aspect because it’s considered to graphic.

@badpiggies988

Жыл бұрын

And learning more about the European side of the allied war effort too it seems. My school barely touched on that, it mostly focused on Japan because that was the main focal point for our effort- and the three dictators’ rise to power.

*still hearing the screams of people in the burnt out bunker* Flamethrower operator: yeah it’s totally painless, trust me bro

Brother, get me the flamer. The heavy flamer.

"Death by fire is the purest death." Melisandre, Game Of Thrones.

"The flamethrower was a weapon of mercy" those are the words from a command who didn't care about their enemies just as their enemies probably didnt care about them, they didn't actaully think this and knew the flamethrower was gruesome, that was just the attitude at the time and I'm sure everyone below command didn't feel like arguing with it out of fear or just went with it out of pure ignorance.

@Klongu_Da_Bongu

Жыл бұрын

The flamethrower, even though sometimes inpractical and a big target, was great for clearing out Japanese bunkers. You could use it on the windows, having the flames bounce of and the smoke destorying the oxygen in the room, or even put it inside air holes on the top and sides of the bunker, although a grenade could also be used.

I feel that those who wielded it espousing the theory of painless killing probably made it as an excuse to seem less cruel to other people and to help rationalize it to themselves.

@homeygfunkoffacherryfruitl4971

Жыл бұрын

I mean would you really wanna sit there and stew over the fact that you just grilled a dude alive in his foxhole?

Enemy: aaaarrghhhh waaahhhhhhhh aaaarrrrgghhhhhh Flamethrower operator: sorry, during the training the targets didnt scream so we thought it was a painless death

That bulletin is insane

The poor guys had to convince themselves that the flamethrower was humane and painless in order to protect their own psyche. Basically a coping mechanism against PTSD from torturing people to death.

@dullahan7677

Жыл бұрын

Eh, maybe. I mean the guys that came up with that cup of bullshit are probably the same ones that touted asbestos to be the latest, greatest "wundermaterial" of the time. They might've actually believed such nonsense, much the same way that it was believed that infants didn't feel pain, and as such, usually received surgery without any form of anesthesia. Madness. I often contemplate what commonly used item or substance of our present existence will be looked upon by future generations with them saying: "What the hell were they thinking, those stupid asses?"

@Klongu_Da_Bongu

Жыл бұрын

"There is a very small amount of Japanese people screaming "TASKETE"... Let's change that." - Merica

That's probably what those troops told themselves so they could sleep at night.

Love your content! I learn something new with each video. By the way, just an interesting detail from the video, the second photo used shows a US soldier using a flamethrower during the Battle of Manila in February 1945. The specific place shown is the Puerta Real (Royal Gate) chambers in the old city center or walled city of Intramuros in Manila. It's one of the last spots in the district where the Japanese held an organized resistance. Battle records show how US forces, during the battle, used flamethrowers frequent to dispatch Japanese troops holed up in the basements or rooms of many places in Manila during the battle.

I thought about this for a while because the most important thing you do for a burn victim is give them high concentration oxygen. This isn’t necessarily because they were in an oxygen deprived environment but it’s because lungs burn very easily and what do people do when they get surprised or hurt… involuntarily and sharply inhale. People don’t die from their skin and muscles burning but from their lungs burning it’s a form of suffocation where they are able to move air in and out still but the oxygen transfer is limited or gone. So I did sort of a thought experiment where I considered in its entirety what it would be like to die in different ways. Obviously there’s lots of variables to consider so I tried to go with averages such as how long does it take the average gunshot victim to die vs how long does it take to die from flame inhalation and after thinking about it for a while the conclusion I came to is that it’s ALL absolutely terrible and war is literally hell.

@terpz47

Жыл бұрын

I’m one of the few who read your whole essay

@SpecialAgentJamesAki

Жыл бұрын

@@terpz47 thank you for coming to my Ted talk

@raidzeromatt

Жыл бұрын

​@kingbillyGOAT I read it too but it's kind of pointless to sum flamethrowers up by one cause of death You could die from smoke inhalation just by being in a bunker that got torched, your internal organs cooking if you're doused in the accelerant, or if you somehow manage to survive then you'll probably die from infection "They feel less pain" sounds like the argument people make about fish not feeling pain Awfully convenient lol

@Yamsthenills

Жыл бұрын

"War is hell" is one of those apparently 'well duh' comments that more people could stand to actually consider in depth. We'd probably have a lot fewer people in the world signing on to kill and die.

@SpecialAgentJamesAki

Жыл бұрын

@YANAKLARI BAL DROGO my bad I’ll issue the correction **factually

If you get covered in the flame, all of your nerves are stimulated at once. Causing immense pain that if you survive it (somehow) you would not only be scarred for life, but feel constant pain from the severed nerves 😊

@dLzzzgaming

Жыл бұрын

If your nerves are severed, you can't feel any pain.

@Icommittedarson

Жыл бұрын

@@dLzzzgaming But you can. They're severed causing them to be stimulated constantly. "People with traumatic nerve damage can experience severe, unrelenting pain, burning sensation, tingling or total loss of sensation in the part of the body affected by the damaged nerve." - Johns Hopkins Medicine

@samon53

Жыл бұрын

I think you two are misunderstanding each other. If a nerve was completely 'severed' then it would have no sensation whatsover. Which is the loss of sensation mentioned by one of you and the quote. But in most situations a lot of nerves will be damaged but not completely severed, resulting in misfiring and often extreme pain.

@dLzzzgaming

Жыл бұрын

​@@samon53 Yep. Fun fact though, I once put a frying pan against my leg when I was trying to scrape some burnt stuff off of it, and got myself a 3rd degree burn on my leg. Didn't hurt one bit, it was a super weird experience. Later that day, I accidentally rested my other leg on top of that burn, and kind of "slid" my leg on top of the burn, which took off the burn skin clean off the wound. That was the most intense pain I've ever felt in my life. I didn't even make a sound, I just kinda gawked and almost passed out.

@samon53

Жыл бұрын

​@@dLzzzgaming Had you not realised at that point or were you in the process of getting medical attention?

In field exercises wile in Infantry Officer Candidate School I got designated as the flame thrower operator and was given a grand total of 30 minutes instruction and then had to hump it up a hill on a 90F day with 90% humidity and then torch a bunker. One had to be careful of the back blast when the flame reflected off the concrete bunker. The big take away was that the flame thrower operator would be the first that every enemy troop would be taking aim at.

that one scene from AQotWF where paul’s friend gets torched alive after begging for mercy really stuck with me

“Those sounds are just the air escaping”

That’s an amazing oxymoron… a weapon of mercy

@dieminervaeule

Жыл бұрын

We have a nice one here in Germany too: Hassliebe (Hatelove).

Flamethrowers can give the user the worst headache known to man.

Great interview wwll flamethrower veteran interview on shawn ryan channel. It a great watch. Many good interviews along those lines on there also.

"That's a compelling argument that you make, why don't you back it with a source?" "The source is that I made it the fuck up...the source itself, I mean."

"Are you sure this is humane?" "Yes, of course. It's painless!" "But ... he's screaming..." "Ahh... The agony of defeat..."

Ah yes imagine breathing literal fire down your lungs and throat while you scream in shock and in the mean time your eyes and face melts, yes I'm sure that's painless.

*guy writhing in agony on fire* “Ah….he’s at peace now”

Remember, the government never lies.

Just because their lungs and vocal cords are fried doesn't mean they're not TRYING to scream....

the roar of the flamethrower is almost enough to drown out the screams. almost.

Good song title. You took a flabe thrower to my heart.

"AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH" "See? He died painless and instantly :D"

My great-uncle was in the USMC in WW2 and was in many battles in the Pacific campaign. His MOS was a flamethrower(which he hated.) But he said that the enemy was so scared of a death by flamethrower that when they saw a Marine carrying one, that person would become a primary target. Needless to say, I don't think that if it was a "painless" way to die, people would fear it so.