What I don’t agree with is paintings of the Orishas as blondes or blue eyed interpretations. When clearly we know they are from Yorubaland.

@nurglenurgle

4 жыл бұрын

Well, they did it with Jesus and Mary, who are both depicted as blue-eyed and blonde and just out of a beauty parlor, so it's not surprising that they'd do the same with Orishas. I've seen art with Ochossi where he looks like his name is probably Brad.

@MrMartin-dh2co

3 жыл бұрын

@@albertaatieno I don't believe in race. It's all an illusion to devide us. We're all human. I don't see Colour

@MrMartin-dh2co

3 жыл бұрын

@@albertaatieno Race is part of the matrix. We're all human. Stop falling for the bait

@MrMartin-dh2co

3 жыл бұрын

@@albertaatieno i dont mind worshipping her as a black lady. but i wouldnt push it on others. everyone should do what they're comfortable with

@luigimacchi9525

2 жыл бұрын

The problem is painting Orisaa as humans, that's a fantasy originated from diaspora, in Yoruba land there's no human rappresentations of Orisas. Btw, I have seen exclusevely orisa painted as balck people, from Brasilian, and Cuban tradititons for example

With all respect, if you are making ocha and don’t have an understanding of where the religion comes from, then you shouldn’t be making ocha.

As a Caucasian practitioner of Santeria and a devotee of the Orishas, I really appreciate this video. I have always seen it as me moving to a new country, learning the language, customs and “applying for a passport” and “citizenship” of said country. Ashé!

Ache 🙏🏽🙏🏽🙏🏽 it's funny you have the ones with African decent denying the Latinos and the Latinos denying the white. That's a whole mess. When orishas choose u it's best not to question the divine.

Abure Alafia! I enjoy watching your videos. It’s really up to your spiritual chord, ancestors, Orisha and eggun if you’re to be crowned. We don’t pick what Orisha they choose us. Now here in the U.S. the religion was beaten out of the slaves by the English, in Latin America also, but the Spanish and Portugués were catholic which have saint statues. As you know they hid the Orishas inside the statues to please their owners, making them think they had been converted. They even put them inside the walls. Now in a spiritual mass how would you explain Congo/African or any other spirits coming forward as part of someone’s spiritual chord who is non black? The Latinos are not trying to steal the religion like some say. We are part of it as well. Africans were not only brought here more than one million were taken to Cuba alone. I am crowned Obatala and have been practicing this religion for 27 years. Now when I talk to my African American friends about the religion I’m shocked most have no idea. Some say oh that voodoo stuff. This religion is not for everyone, but it doesn’t discriminate we just have to conduct ourselves in a moral way.

@kamdelmonte7349

4 жыл бұрын

petegnzlz Latinos (Spaniards and their descendants) have not only robbed Africans of their labor and stole their culture but also their spirituality and way of worship. Stop rationalizing cultural appropriation and racist exploitation and theft of black culture.

@blessgoddess4186

4 жыл бұрын

THEY ARE PAYING NOW DEARLY FOR THAT....THE BIG PAY BACK IS HERE

Alafia Sister....many blessings to you and yours. I have the utmost respect to your views on this. I've been saying this to my fellow brothers and sisters. I have been an Ifa Orisha devotee for many years and I've seen non blacks that are Babas and Iyas...and even though Ifa teaches us to love all and respect all, it was always a bit of hinder to me. I remember asking my Iya a time.....do non blacks manifest? And her response was " yes they do! But not in the way we do!" as she explained that most times it's their Ori which is in manifestation, not an Orisha themselves. My thing is this when it comes to non blacks being a part of an African Spiritual Teaching is manly to figure out what makes us so spiritual. We as being the first in this realm were born with that spiritual aspect, our melanin is literally connected to the universe....it is why we feel things in such a way that most others don't feel. I have seen with my eyes many a times of the appropriation of our spirituality. I just believe that's non black can sit on the outside and respect our teachings. There is no hate towards non blacks.....just respect of understanding that this is ours! This is our way of paying respect to our ancestors ( the same ancestors that were forbidden to practice Ifa Orisha).......give us that respect! Let us be one with our Orisha Mothers and Fathers. During slavery many were killed practicing our spirituality......and many non blacks for years has been in the dark trying to understand what makes us who we are and the connection that we have with the universe and it has always been to no avail. This is something that you have to be born with! It is not learnt!

@jimependall6382

5 жыл бұрын

you must be high, ... we are the emination of mondaic progeny, from hyperborea, to atlantis, to central asia, to proto europe, ... your politics betray you

@blessgoddess4186

4 жыл бұрын

SISTER I WISH I COULD GET INTO THIS SCREEN AND HUG YOU...U SAID IT SIS

okay, weird question, when i call on aphrodite, she comes to me as Oshun, and im not of any african or cuban heritige. im Itallian, irish, dutch, hungerian, and greek. any thoughts?

@spinningdancer

4 жыл бұрын

I'm feeling similarly... truly interested in the Orishas especially right now with BLM movements, Oshun has cast a spell on meee lol In all seriousness though I can accept if I am not allowed to have this, with all that has been taken by white people. I'm just a bit confused and feel very drawn to her.

@MrMartin-dh2co

3 жыл бұрын

Because they are all the same Godesses . Yemaya is connected to Hellenic & Egyptian Godesses too. Due to time & cirmctance through the ages only the male God was recognized but the female God was denied !! Thus the Godess had no other choice then to split herself in different cultures by the local names until the time was right to Unify her Children. The question is do her children have the will ? When will they wake up ?

@MrMartin-dh2co

3 жыл бұрын

We must remember Gods are not humans. They don't use skin colour like humans. They are energy.

I always thought it was weird for non-Africans to practice traditional African religions because they are ancestor based.

@redsnake3751

6 жыл бұрын

I'm Latino and I'm initiated. Ive seen and been to many different churches that are of christian faith but non called to me as strong as the Yoruba faith. I can with all heart and honesty say this is the path I have choosen and I'm very thankful to all the orishas and ancestors who made this beautiful religion. Ashe to all 👍

@tomasbyrom3954

6 жыл бұрын

It's a very complex situation. Africa is the most diverse continent on Earth. In regards to DNA , Chinese people are more closely related to French people than some neighbouring African groups are to each other. All these groups have different spiritual systems and were often in conflict with each other. Being of African decent doesn't necessarily mean that someone has any ancestry or DNA related to the Yoruba people. They could even be related to ancient enemies of the Yoruba. It is very difficult to know. I think provided that we enter with respect and humility, we all have something amazing to learn from this beautiful tradition. No matter where our ancestors come from. I also have to say that if someone of African decent doesn't want to learn from someone of European decent, that is completely understandable. I think that finding the right godparent is so important and many factors play into that.

@ElBrujoCoral

5 жыл бұрын

Africa is a continent, not a country. So even as a black person you may not have ancestral ties to Yoruba culture. I do get what you are saying but it the Africa umbrella is quite large and carries many different traditions underneath it.

@CurtisBooksMusic

5 жыл бұрын

Why weird? You think the orishas only call people with DNA from a specific point?

@vxla

5 жыл бұрын

It’s only weird for the fool to question devotion.

If you embrace Orisha worship because the Orisha call you to be initiated, Then learn the culture and Yoruba prayers and accept you have a debt of gratitude to the Black people this religion emanates from in Cuba , the diaspora and Yoruba land.

I'm sorry for being ignorant to this information. But what is orisha??

Every nation has their own watchers. Each nation,race has their own Gods and Goddesses ,Principalities that rule over that domain. Ive heard of Wiccan practitioners not being able to handle certain Voodoo curses ,because they were not related to the bloodlines decending from those Gods. Each nation has their own Dieties that the people are linked to by bloodlines. Its ok to borrow from other traditions,buf its important for people to have that respect and to stay in their lane so so speak. I totalky agree with you,very true.

That's what I'm saying. I know some Hispanics who taught there children...those black people this and that...yet turn around practicing orisha tradition. Respect the people and energies your getting your "power" (for lack of better term) from

I just had my 1st eye open and I was told by Legba that the orisha are black but he said I can't hate white people because they might have the spirit of them inside of them. He even said I can't hate gay people because some of the orisha are both male and female but choose to harness more male or female energy. Those white people that worship orisha could still be black in the inside. He told me we all have to be one. We can't lean more to the left or to the right we have to remain in the middle. When it comes to others and what they do and say.

@madreomega4594

5 жыл бұрын

I was also told by spirit that some of the whites that practice this where only reincarnated as white in this life but where black in past life's. They also said there will only be black people in heaven but that's only because those who have the white skin that practice will be given black bodies once they transition. We don't know why they ended up in that body. Some reincarnated as plants even animals. The white skin could've been a punishment. Which I'm sure would be tourture waking up everyday hearing them drums in your head and Africa/ IFA calling but your mom is downstairs making mayo sandwiches. Knowing inside you was a black King trapped in this white skin. Never wanting Becky but always wanting Brenda. On top of having to find himself in this matrix as a white man having to fulfill his African destiny. He knows his spirit is black but he trapped under white skin.

@melanieanne2066

5 жыл бұрын

@@madreomega4594 Interesting epiphany you received. Spirits come in a wide variety of "colors". Appearing in ways we can receive them. I am sure if a "Becky" spirit showed up to some, one might not be too receptive LOL. Many Christians, for example could never receive a brown Jesus, so they created another IMAGE for their comfort level. One must also consider not all spirits are even human, or came from human culture. There are infinite realms with infinite beings. They don't carry DNA like we do. Their "cultures" are completely foreign to us as humans in this incarnation. The spirits deal with us on the level we can comprehend and accept. If they show their true nature/appearance, most humans would freak out. Their ideals of "bad" and "good" are also different than ours. So they take on "human" attributes, emotions, culture solely so we can receive them. There are many spirits who are compassionate and altruistic. They create the form, rituals, and cultural appropriations for humans, not the other way around. I interact with spirits that aren't human in appearance (no, they are not "aliens" lol). Although some aliens DO try to pass themselves off as "gods" or "spirits" to be venerated. This is so much bigger than any of us can grasp or fathom. But coming back down to earth, its going to take all of us to get the job done on this earth. The "evil" is winning right now, and if we cannot find some common ground to unite, we will ALL be wiped out.

@answerthecall265

4 жыл бұрын

@@madreomega4594 I keep running into you. I almost never read comments and the 1 time I do here you are. During this Scorpion Retrograde. How are you Queen? In your comment you answered a question I have been asking The Divine for almost my whole life. Still confused however I Thank You for it . How is Phoenix?

@madreomega4594

4 жыл бұрын

@@answerthecall265 she is well...I will be finally making a video about her and sharing a wonderful message she had to give to the world... Stay tuned for that... I'm on it 😍😍😍

I wouldn't agree to this nonsense of questioning our self if it's" ok" to practice yoruba. You should read a little more about what happened to African slaves. They didn't come TO USA ONLY. They were scatter in the Caribbean and latin America. So people from this places do have ancestors who used to worship orishas and not necessarily they have to be dark skinned. This racism it grosses me out!

@iamgooberz

5 жыл бұрын

Actually it’s a closed religion meaning if you aren’t of tradition, you shouldn’t be practicing it period.

@teracamacho5049

5 жыл бұрын

@@iamgooberz someone lied to you. If it was closed, I gaurantee you would know nothing of it. The people who received Orisha or crowned, etc have it in their destiny. No matter their color.

@Healinglights17

5 жыл бұрын

@@teracamacho5049 What I'm getting from what she is saying is that if you don't/can't/won't respect the culture and tradition from which the Orisha or Loa come from its best to move on. Its not about race ultimately but spiritual culture/tradition.

@teracamacho5049

5 жыл бұрын

@@Healinglights17 well, I'm just getting that this black girl wants white people to respect what "belonged to the black AFRICANS". This religion is one of the most ancient known to man, if you are not taught the origin in the beginning, you're already screwed, but that doesn't mean it "belongs" to black people, or that white people need to be any kind of conscious of that, or that we need to be extra respectful, just because someone is black. We should be respectful of each other, based on our hierarchy, our wisdoms, and our experiences. Not to mention our fellow human. Without skin, we are all the same color. As for me and my house, we are color blind.

@suckerpunchgirl7558

4 жыл бұрын

Tera Camacho ❤️❤️❤️

So, to really sum it all up. You are basically saying that is would be best suited for an individual to be African to be a Practitioner of Ifa of Orisa faith?

@Alafia

7 жыл бұрын

Not at all, but a fundamental understanding and respect for the fact that these divinities have an ethnicity is key.

thank you so much for making this!!

I am white and studying Orisha Worship/Yoruba/Santeria/Afro-Cuban Religions (independently). I agree with everything you say. Nothing you say here gets me upset. My response is more like "Of course." Of course this is a religion of Sub-Saharan origin. Of course the orishas are Black/have African features/are from Africa ( or whatever, however one wishes to put it). Like I said, Agreed, that doesn't upset me/have no difficulties with that. So...……...I'm white and I agree/have no problems with what you say...…….Does that mean something is WRONG with me? Does that make me WEIRD? ( I do get the impression that many white people would be challenged/upset by what you say. But for me, that does not compute.) By the way, I am white and male, child of the 60s which might explain..... Ashe

THANK YOU!!

as to non African devotees and priests not honoring the African source ...in generalities (as it's hard to make a this statement without doing so )..it is Mostly the Hispanic Lucumi..practitioners who have animosity towards the Yoruban priests. .fearing they'll atrophy the credibility of their Lucumi rama/branch. **this is really more about money issues than anything. The white non Hispanics initiated honor IMO honor .the Yoruba..roots .Although there are some whites who have wicca roots and practice a hybrid thing..not acknowledging the source. You are very very non aggressive and measured in your opinion. .and wise. I've seen the opposite on YT.

@obayokoshango

6 жыл бұрын

with all due respect,its both Santeria/yoruba priest/priestess that has a problem with one another (believing that one is better than the other.) some people fail to realize ifa is ifa,whether its in Africa, brazil,cuba,or the united states.

@Michael-mh4vr

5 жыл бұрын

@@obayokoshango honestly Ifa may come during Itefa in both West Africa and Diaspora...but the rituals are radically different and the practice and procedures are very different in many ways

I am new learning and I absolutely agree and respect and everything you mention in your video!!! ❤️

Thank you!!!!!!

Thank 👏🏽You! 👏🏽

Olokun sipirit of the sea 🌊 and the sea is not limited to Africa , ogun spirit of iron and iron is not exclusive to black people, sango spirit of thunder and the thunder is not limited to Africa so stop talking about races because orishas are universal forces even IFA say that orishas has been created by god (olodumare) for humanity and that is obatala who created the human body (black,white,Asian etc...) !!

@jeffersonmarcelatangana1782

Жыл бұрын

Then give us english names for them stop using Yoruba names thieves always whitewashing peoples cultures Thunder strike all of you

Thank you so much for this. I did not come to this butt hurt or claiming that I have the right to be a part of this religion. I came to this video wanting to almost ask permission to research and worship Gods from the Yoruba Pantheon. I don't think that they have no color. I believe that Gods, although they are divine multi dimensional beings, do have a connection to the land, culture, and people they walked amongst and helped. I want to know if its okay for me, as a white person, with the what my ancestors did to the ancestors from African countries, to be a part of this. I'm not claiming it as my own, and I want to respect the people, but I want to know what traditions and I can and can't be apart of . That is my dilemma. I don't want to disrespect any Gods or people.

@sunofshangoihate45thihated85

4 жыл бұрын

Helena Hendrixson naw sis stick Wiccan Orishas based belief/ magic is ancestral based if you got any african mixture deep within your roots you can practice but not pure bred Caucasian

@sunofshangoihate45thihated85

4 жыл бұрын

Helena Hendrixson you’ll need to make offerings to Esu, then egungun (ancestors) and if they were racist you’ll have a difficult time connecting with the Orishas. That’s why it’s ancestral practices and belief

@linchan7271

3 жыл бұрын

@@sunofshangoihate45thihated85 isn't it for the orishas to decide? That's also literally what the video says...

have u seen orisha tarot cards? What's next...

@mykielzingara5327

4 жыл бұрын

That deck represents the religion of Brazil not lucumi. Don't blame us

It really is a shame this is even an issue. I'm not sure how long I'm pretty sure I've been getting hints from Yemaya, but because I'm white I've written it off as..."I've always found that goddess interesting but that's not my heritage/ancestors..." Long story short, during a bus trip the bus stopped right in front of a small little store. I was at a window seat, smack dab in front of the store. Had I sat almost anywhere else, or on the other side I would have never seen it: Botanica Yemaya. This was after I purchased a blue and white mermaid statue that just stood out to me like a flashing red light...(it hit me a few days ago "Blue and white are Yemaya's major colors"... there was no question it was a sign from her). When I went shopping I asked for a sign for which spirit is trying to reach me. I felt I was being called for a while, but wasn't sure by whom. So I saw the merimaid, it was beautiful and the perfect size for my alter. But, in case it wasn't a coinsidence I said I'd wait a week or so to be sure. About two weeks later, the blue and white mermaid was still there so I bought it and then I got her home and asked, "So, who are you?". Not long after that, maybe two weeks is when I take the bus trip. I rarely take bus trips. It's no question to me now this goddess has been trying to reach out for years. It's just become much more apparent as of late. Those who encourage people not to worship, you're not just doing people like me a disservice, you may be upsetting your own Orishas and Gods. The message I received on working with Yemaya being someone who's not sure what the "right" thing is to do? "If you love me, there is no wrong way"

@Healinglights17

5 жыл бұрын

@luxchevis, I don't think you understand what she is saying in the video. The point she's making is if you are not willing/able to honor the tradition/culture from which whatever Orisha or Loa reaches out to you then it is best to keep it moving. What I see many white people doing is picking and choosing who they want from the tradition for power--even if the Orisha reaches out to you. Western culture is isolationistic, not seeing the whole. My suggestion is to consult with a reputable priest/priestess of the tradition and get more information.

Thank you.

I was in it with my parents as a kid. I left when I was 15. I have nothing against Lukumi, it's a beautiful religion, but as a small-town 11 year old white girl, I was not prepared for some of the more bloody parts of my initiation. There is a big difference between children who are part of the culture being initiated and having white bread 11-year old me who had no idea why my hair was soaked with animal blood, fucks sake. I got my Illekes, Ori, and initiation. We didn't join till I was 10. Another thing I saw my predoninantly white Ile people saying is, "X Orisha owns X (first world object)." Two women faked possession at a misa for attention. Obviously, you can tell when it's legit. The elders did not call them out! Only gossipped later and laughed, like what? Like I said-beautiful religion, I still have love for my (forgot what it's called-mom) Osun. I have absolutely nothing against animal sacrifice, feasts, misas, children initiated...but these white people forcing their minor children to get initiated is something I'm not cool with. Thank you for this video :) I thought it would never get said. I'm not saying white people absolutely shouldn't practice, I'm just saying they need to think. :)

@blessgoddess4186

4 жыл бұрын

IT'S NOT FOR THEM....THAT'S OUR CULTURE....

@luigimacchi9525

2 жыл бұрын

@@blessgoddess4186 God is for all the creatures, it's not culture related. Youa re in the wrong path.

OK I got 1:22 into this. I watched it thinking "she better mean this and not that...." And what you ended up saying I agree with. Obatalá and Orunmila called me, not vice versa. I'm white. Can't do anything about that. But I'm well aware how fierce this tradition is that it survived the Transatlantic slave trade and the sacrifices made by Addechina Obara Meyi and everyone else. I've seen white babalawos that don't have that same respect and reverence. That's a problem. Keep pointing it out, as well I.

@Michael-mh4vr

5 жыл бұрын

If one makes Itefa and doesn't have proper respect for Ifa and the tradition..what do you think happens to them?...

@petegnzlz

5 жыл бұрын

Osogbo!!

@teracamacho5049

5 жыл бұрын

@@petegnzlz 😂🤣🤣🤣

I can see my orisha....it’s weird that other people can’t see theirs....

“We can not choose”......

I appreciate your video and your opinions based on your education. With that said, I invite you to ask your elders (godmother, godfather, religious family, house, etc) about a certain pataki where a white baby was born from a black woman and about the origin of the white race. I say it this way because I have been told this pataki by my religious family and I am super respectful and mindful of the hierarchy of these things. I don't think it's out of line to remind everyone that the white race was born from the black. Sorry in advance if anyone is offended by my lack of political correctness here, but I have crowned Ochun and I also have much knowledge about my ancestry which even includes a Congo. I am from Cuba, my ancestry is a very long mixture, and I don't think for one second that I needed to consider anyone or anything because of some idea of the original story. I think you were right in the beginning Orisha is for anyone and that your information is limited and therefore your video even offended me. My ancestry can be traced back pretty far and includes all different colors and walks of life so, yes, I respect everyone, and I don't need anyone's permission or grace except for the blessing of my ancestors and of those Orisha. So on that note, none of us need to be conscious of color.

@Michael-mh4vr

5 жыл бұрын

Ase...beautiful. Besides most of yoruba lineage went to Cuba and Brazil...actually not North America...I have great respect and compassion for the wounds inflicted on African Americans..but if Orisha or Ifa pick an Oyimbo..that's that!..yes I made Ocha in Regla and Ifa in Nigeria

@teracamacho5049

5 жыл бұрын

@@Michael-mh4vr Ache Iború, Olúo, thank you, and me in Luyanó not so far away!

@petegnzlz

5 жыл бұрын

Tera Camacho, Then you may know my godmother Eusebia Prieto she is from there also. Just a thought. Saludos y bendición.

@teracamacho5049

5 жыл бұрын

@@petegnzlz I don't know her personally, but my husband is a friends of hers in Facebook, if she is the same lady, she has a sister Ines. My husband was born and raised in Luyanó. I am from La Habana Vieja, but I spend my vacations mostly with my husband's family in Luyanó. 😊 Small world, large population 😁

@petegnzlz

5 жыл бұрын

Tera Camacho yes same one! Saludos

I found your video super interesting and I’m still not sure how I even ended up watching it lol (darn the KZread rabbit hole). My question is what about people who actually don’t have recent African decent? I watched a video from a girl who did a DNA test and it actually said she was European. Or what about people who do have African heritage but it is so distant and in the past that you might never actually know? If these questions offend anyone it was truly not meant that way! I’m just honestly curious how a situation such as this would play in people’s opinions. :)

@blessgoddess4186

4 жыл бұрын

IT'S THE MELENATED PEOPLE CULTURE ONLY....THOSE WHO MESSED/MESS AROUND WITH OUR CULTURE SUFFER GREAT....

Yes it is, they don't go ware we go.

I was told a lot of truthful things about myself by a Nigerian priest who used my name and my mother's name to consult an Oracle. He said my guardian angel was Ogun. And that I had to sacrifice to and feed the ancestors to straighten out my problems. The amazing thing is that I'm a white German and he approached me out of the blue just like that.

@CurtisBooksMusic

5 жыл бұрын

Yea, he got your money easily!

@loveunconventionally6043

4 жыл бұрын

Babalawo aren’t supposed to seek people out so you more than likely got scammed...

@blessgoddess4186

4 жыл бұрын

YOU SHOULD HAVE KNOWN BETTER

@andymetternich3428

2 жыл бұрын

@Trinity M i don't know. Only that he told me lots of correct stuff about myself.

@andymetternich3428

2 жыл бұрын

@@CurtisBooksMusic how do you know whether i paid him or not?

does that mean i am in the wrong? because i am puerto-rican, black, and indian. but i was born in america... i don't want to be disrespectful.

@teracamacho5049

5 жыл бұрын

You can't be "wrong" if you learn from your NON RACIST elders, and respect Orisha. You help others, and when necessary, you pass down tradition. Don't let this type of thinking make you doubt yourself. Respect and love all races.

@petegnzlz

5 жыл бұрын

All that is done from the heart is is acceptable to the Orishas.. Let’s spread love, teach and welcome those that respect and want to learn our religion. Hay que repartir la sabiduría en vida no dejarla de herencia! Let’s share our knowledge in this life not leave it as an inheritance

@teracamacho5049

5 жыл бұрын

@@petegnzlz Ache, muy bien dicho. Orisha does recognize colors, but not discriminate. Y la inocencia se perdona. 🙏

whites and blacks will be around forever get over the whole color thing already bo matter what color you are

@teracamacho5049

4 жыл бұрын

@Ibri from Rev7 the DNA and the bloodlines will still exist.

I know a white Cuban babalou who despises black people but frequently uses the power of the orishas to serve his needs. He has passed his racism to his children who hate black people but yet use the orishas for their benefit. White people have stripped us of our religion and used Christianity to make us docile due to the Haitian slaves defeating the French army to gain independence. White people who do not have a black ancestor in the closet needs to be completely excluded from our spiritual practices. If it wasn't for the transatlantic slave trade, they would have never come into contact with African religion. It was given to us for a reason and we shouldn't give it away freely to people whose ancestors have never experienced the brutality of slavery and the humiliation of jim crow laws. Therefore I respectfully disagree with the maker of this video.

@yuiyoung382

6 жыл бұрын

R F You are so right. But The Orishas can handle the Pale faced ones. And Believe me The Orishas used the pale face ones to do there biddings more than vice versa....Ase'

@simplymoonchild3908

6 жыл бұрын

Yui Young ......BAM!

@TheRightHandedNeutrino

5 жыл бұрын

The racism in these comments is mind boggling. You don't fight white supremacy with black supremacy - get a clue.

@simplymoonchild3908

5 жыл бұрын

Brentt Giebner.... We, no, allow me to speak for Me...I grew up seeing how black slaves were treated. I must admit, there were an awful lot of good white slave owners, whom had the intentions to treat them with respect. ( Those are they who helped us escape from the harsh- unthinkable treatments we endured ).... then there were the ones who breed the spirit HATE. ( those were majority of the white poor, uneducated, unreasonable folks). Somehow, for some reason, I’m believing that the opportunity for employment were very dim for them for the lack of knowledge and experiences. They were the ones who always hanged out at the bars getting unconsciously drunk, beat their wives mercifully, working their children on the farms instead of sending them to school, and if by chance of schooling HATE were spread amount the innocent children. I also believe that these same “ folks” were the primary reason for hating their slave owners bosses. To the point where they wanted to destroy them and their slaves, by spreading untrue rumors on us because, after all we did not know / barely understood their poor english compared to the well educated/ wealthy slave owners english. Especially in the era where communication was yet misunderstood, misinterpreted, if you will. These same “ folks “ turned slave owners against each other with lies, theft, murders,convincingly brain washing.....pointing their finger toward us as the accuser, ( of course we were threatened to die along with our entire family’s ) if we didn’t cooperate....Many of times not understanding exactly what was really said or done. These same “folks” are doing the exact same things right now today... Yes, it moves me when I hear the hate coming from my people and not understanding why,who, and what has really happened and still alive in today’s world. If only they ( my people ) would take heed, understanding that if it wasn’t for White People, not “White Folks,” we would have been wiped out in America a very long, long time ago.....to all of the white peoples who has helped us, even now, those who has lost their lives fighting for us and with us....you will never be forgotten... Thank You. Namaste

@teracamacho5049

5 жыл бұрын

Some things are very clear to me, based on your comment... 1. You don't fully (truly) understand "black" culture. 2. You don't understand fully (truly) African religious practices. Now, I ask you, have you ever asked yourself any "why's" of ANYTHING? I'll bet money that the African religious practices were "meant" and/or DESTINED to make it's way around the world. It's a shame it has only been so well PRESERVED by only a handful of areas. I am from Habana, Cuba and I can tell you that Yoruba culture and practices has been super preserved, so much to the point we include ALL RACES and understand that ORISHA is NATURE. That means it's filosofía. Their "human" aspects are only for US (and I mean all colors) to RELATE TO. Your comment only demonstrates your IGNORANCE and your obvious hate towards WHITES. Well... WHITE CUBAN... HERE I AM. And just in case you wondered, yes, I am a practitioner of the REGLA DE OCHA.

Om Black myself but... didnt everyone come from africa? Even white folks?

I can barely hear it, but good one

Alafia...this may frivolous but I always wanted to ask you. Why do you wear fake straight Caucasian ish hair? I wanted to ask you a question about Ifa but I couldn't past your assimilation. no disrespect sister just was wanted to know. I have been self studying Ifa for about 20 years so im such an infant in this spirituality where you only know it. Help me understand why you don't were your natural hair Queen.

@Olivia-rh1jk

5 жыл бұрын

Angelia Wright africans have straight hair too. Im tuareg, we have straight hair and im from africa

@angeliawright8569

5 жыл бұрын

yes dear it is so sweet that you are taking up for Iya but I had a question for HER. I wear wigs(natural/kinky) often so mr 6ft7 my question why she doesn't wear her natural hair. she is a sister that believes in nature but not that of her hair. that's her option but because she is a teacher I was curious as to why she doesn't share that. thanks for responding for her

@teracamacho5049

5 жыл бұрын

Yes, also, please, tell us if people should be "self studying" IFA? I'll wait...

@petegnzlz

5 жыл бұрын

Alafia is a beautiful woman! Hair style has nothing to do with her wisdom!

African but very much so Caribean. The Orishas are a huge part of the island I was born in ;) Cuba. I’m very light in skin (perhaps I have more Spanish blood then), but I guess we can’t just assume white is “white” ;) I do get what your saying, however, when I have had ceremonies (for instance la Mano de Orula) I was floored at the melting pot of Babalawo’s speaking the language, getting down calling on Los Muertos, Eleggua, las Moyugbas, it was flawless. and honestly, each had a reason to their calling and if not for them, I would not have had a complete ceremony. This is a bit of a passive aggressive video, insulting but not quite insulting. Live and let live.

@jeffersonmarcelatangana1782

Жыл бұрын

It doesn't matter its still yoruba tradition whitewashing is pising me off leave african worship alone

For much of the practice of lukumi, we need to differentiate between black and non-black. So are people who have roots in the Latin country like cuba but look white are non black? Are we looking at Genotype, phenotype? What are we doing here for the litmus test. It cannot be the American standard because that is not how race and culture are derived in the Caribbean. I agree that if you have no respect for mama Africa you look like a dann fool practicing orisha worship. And yes, they were people at one point and they were black... folks he sent that are stupid.

@JenJaneway

6 жыл бұрын

David Delgado you know what she means. Stop taking up space

"Space is still black.." I wonder what that was supposed to mean?

@TheRightHandedNeutrino

5 жыл бұрын

And I agree, there are folks like Robert Speher who are making the case that those Africans learned this from ancient Aryans - and perhaps they themselves are extraterrestrials.

@tstarr2399

5 жыл бұрын

@@TheRightHandedNeutrino the original aryans were black dear

@TheRightHandedNeutrino

5 жыл бұрын

@@tstarr2399 Can you provide a link to back that up? I am no neo nazi or white supremist but I do see there is a black supremist movement and its pretty ugly.

@tstarr2399

5 жыл бұрын

@@TheRightHandedNeutrino theres no such thing as oppressed people being supremacist because they are becoming liberated. You sound like the supremacist who is concerned with losing the white privilege you've been enjoying so long as we demand true equality. And what link do you need to understand space is black? Every space photo created proves it. Its called DARK MATTER. look it up on your own instead of being lazy.

@answerthecall265

4 жыл бұрын

@@TheRightHandedNeutrino Melanated People have every right to feel the way they do about pale faced people. It's not just about slavery . There are horrible atrocities happening as we speak and mainstream media purposefully does not report on it or they heavily manipulate the narrative.

I like this video I’m white but my family on my dad side hail from Nigeria Congo and Spain but we lost our ways and practiced Catholicism but in the end we returned to our ways and practiced Santeria or lucumi but in the end my dad god mother a G cause she dead ass practiced Santeria and then went to Africa and learned and practiced the traditional the originator of all Afro religions that reside in Latin America but I love my faith it has done me will and continues to and it saved my sister and uncle and I could not be more grateful Ashe mi gente

@kamdelmonte7349

4 жыл бұрын

U look white to me.

@luigimacchi9525

2 жыл бұрын

Ok, but back to school please

Does anyone not find it problematic that the color "white" is celebrated and damn near venerated and worn by all of the Orishas, but the color "black" is not?

@dadevi

5 жыл бұрын

What are you talking about? Black is one of Legba's colors

@petegnzlz

5 жыл бұрын

Also Ogun’s

@teracamacho5049

5 жыл бұрын

Also Orun

I was told Orisha worship should only be practiced by Yoruba people and descendants as it’s a closed religion.

Can you please stop saying subsahara African and just say African.

@linchan7271

3 жыл бұрын

Why?

Brilliant video bravo!

Ábórú Ábóyê Ábóśíśé...preach sistah!!...Ase

If the orichas serve those whom have,and still destroy us,then they Don't Deserve our in-nergy. The end. #thebsexcusescontinuenow!--osar

Modupe!! The Orisha are the 1st Egun of the Yoruba... So yes they do have a skin color, the same as their decedents. Doesn't mean they hate, or do not work with, those who don't have the same skin color, or melanin compound as them. that would be racism and Africa did not create racisms.. Thank you for this video and love you content. I am in full agreement with what you have said and expressed!!

@luigimacchi9525

2 жыл бұрын

Keep dreaming about skin color of Orisas...

ASE-O!...... 😉

We don't need to introduce racism to Orishas tradition. The yorubas are not racist, lets not bring Americanism (racist mentality) into it.

@Alafia

6 жыл бұрын

michael b introduced? Please. I haven't introduced anything. When you can explain why there are white representations of Osun and Yemoja in the diaspora then you'll find where racism was introduced.

@smezier

6 жыл бұрын

This comment alone is racist...it is lack of respect of thousands of years of tradition, and science, by saying the roots are not important. The energies have no race or color. However, this tradition of tapping into those energies is African. If you want to take African out, there are plenty of European based concepts that tap into these energies.

@kaamilyajihan

6 жыл бұрын

Every faith practice is rooted in socio-cultural reality. Islam, Taoism, Buddhism, Zorastrianism, etc. were all born within a specific, identifiable historical and cultural context. Orisa worship is no different and to cry racism at the mere acknowledgement of these facts is a slap in the face to the ancestors who rooted themselves so we have a path today. You and anyone attempting this level of gross erasure should be ashamed.

@JenJaneway

6 жыл бұрын

michael b you're trash....

@TheRightHandedNeutrino

5 жыл бұрын

God bless you - Pan African.

Teach Iyanifa Teach....Ashe'

Thank you for your comments. I totally agree with your opinion on this.

I’m sorry it’s a black thang.... don’t like it get lost.

Orisha images are slowly turning white or light skinned