Quick dogfight here, Its nice to upload fights that don't go my way so we can all talk about mistakes and thoughts and how to improve. I don't consider myself any kind of expert so ur feedback and thoughts are always welcome. Thanks guys for all the support you're all much appreciated. Don't forget to check out Delta's Twitch Channel: www.twitch.tv/delta2echo

@scottworley1479

5 жыл бұрын

Why does it seem like the MIGs are better aircraft than American F class fighters ?

@honcrf

5 жыл бұрын

The F15 in DCS is quicker and faster, will out climb and I'll smoke the F/A 18 every single time.

@kevinstraus1478

5 жыл бұрын

Where do you buy this game? What are system requirements?

@flashy5150

5 жыл бұрын

Buddy, if you F-15 can't turn as good, you need a wider radius to attack. Another great thing to do is use your speed and thrust that an F-15 has, to climb, make an opposite turn, then come in to get him. You can distance yourself from the enemy a lot quicker than he can get you with the F-18, it's a matter of knowing your jet compared to his. Criss-cross his leading path , you will strike and he will die.

@karlinachen6325

5 жыл бұрын

@Scott Worley. Good question, im not expert in this but i believe its not that one were more superior than other, it depend on their fighting philosophy & style. Mig usually focus more on maneuverability & close combat, thus their fighter were lighter & more agile. The F series mostly focus more for long/med range battle thus they brought more electronic & weapon equipment, make them heavier & less agile. In Gulf war, there's skirmish in which a lone f15 downed three mig29. (In term of maneuver mig29's better than f16, f16 better than f18, and f18 better than f15). So the winner is depend on who could expossed the other's weakness. In this dogfight f18 could be assumed as the mig, while f15 is the f series. So there is a handicap if we were fighting w/ gun only.

" Ok i have some time to... peep peep peep (Looking back at missing wing) "god dammit" What a golden moment.

@GrowlingSidewinder

5 жыл бұрын

ahaha

@wruenvadam

5 жыл бұрын

Truly encompassing how a pilot feels when they lose a wing. XD Plane suddenly rolls "Oh no." Looks back, "...god damn..."

@TheZippaduppa

5 жыл бұрын

you know that once f-15 landed with fully missing wing, irl

5:48 lmao imagine driving down the highway and out of nowhere an F-15 just crash beside the road

I don't have this sim, but I flew a lot of WW2 sims like Aces High and IL2 when I was young. The biggest mistake you've made is going nose low after you've managed to outclimb your opponent. When you have a climb rate advantage, never reverse nose-down, because that's exactly what your opponent needs for the kill. Remember, he's in your 6, but can't get his nose on you because of your superior climb rate. Instead, try to reverse above your opponent, using flaps if necessary. Alternatively, you can try a very shallow downward spiral, but be very careful as he might cut across your turning arc and negate your energy advantage. But never split S. If you've done everything right, you'll find him below you, nose high and low on speed, a perfect target. Also, try to be more patient and increase vertical separation as much as possible, as it will provide you with more time to reverse and set up your attack. Beware though, these tactics work only in a gunzo, if missiles are in play, your chances are much more slim, because missile will reach you even if your opponent can't.

@GrowlingSidewinder

5 жыл бұрын

solid tips there petar, i'll keep those in mind for the next fight thanks man.

@tomscott7991

5 жыл бұрын

Correct, Force him to fight your fight. when the 18 is low e you can pull out of the turn fight and extend, separate return to BnZ Great vid! It was just delta's day

@311Gryphon

5 жыл бұрын

I definitely think that is true but in this particular situation the Eagle was pretty slow at the top of the climb and the Hornet had some built up energy. I think the Hornet was still in the driver's seat, at least for the moment. I could be wrong though.

@christopher7952

2 жыл бұрын

@@311Gryphon your only right if you flew a eagle in that situation

I'm so happy I stumbled upon this channel!

@GrowlingSidewinder

5 жыл бұрын

i'm happy u stumbled over here too mate

@Skvffed

5 жыл бұрын

@@GrowlingSidewinder Cheers, brother!

@GriIIe

3 жыл бұрын

Yes me too! He is the reason why i bought my first module (f15) to learn with hotas and vr.

A super educational video! One of the most interesting lessons here is that trying to decide which fighter jet is the "best" is probably a futile exercise. An amateur might see this video and assume that the F-18 is an all around better jet, but in reality you were shot down because you played into the strengths of the F-18 and did not much use the strengths of your own aircraft. I'd be very interested in seeing a rematch during which you use the F-15 to its strengths against the same pilot flying the same jet.

@GrowlingSidewinder

5 жыл бұрын

glad you enjoyed it. and I'll deff look into that rematch time permitting

@metanumia

5 жыл бұрын

@@GrowlingSidewinder Yes I would love to see a re-match where the F-15 is flown to its strengths, i.e. very high energy maintenance to achieve better turn radius (also BVR weapons).

2:14 look at that maneuver!

One thing I might add is that if you MUST fight a fight you shouldn’t be in, DON’t FORGET to fly the fight in the future. Meaning, fly your aircraft to the best shooting solution to where the bandit will BE, not where he’s at. You only have seconds, so make them count.

@GrowlingSidewinder

5 жыл бұрын

a solid point.

@animalanimal7939

5 жыл бұрын

That’s how it is with rc planes too. Fly ahead of the plane. That shit ain’t got brakes

@christopher7952

2 жыл бұрын

Least the streamer got pointers on how to fly f15 properly!

Wow it's crazy to see how much you've grown as a pilot and content creator since this video. Keep on keeping on GS

Quality recording and replay, instant action, commentary I want to hear, no bs.... Instant subscribe

@GrowlingSidewinder

5 жыл бұрын

thank you, I appreciate the support welcome to the channel.

Just discovered this channel and subbed. Love the analysis and play-by-play.

Damn nice breakdown really enjoyed easy to follow and understand coming from a person that's never played any kind of fighter jet sim

@GrowlingSidewinder

5 жыл бұрын

thanks glad you enjoyed it.

I've always wanted to see how a lightweight fighter stacked up against an air superiority fighter and it went exactly how I expected it to go. Good vid.

@GrowlingSidewinder

5 жыл бұрын

thanks man, glad you enjoyed

@bailey2624

5 жыл бұрын

just wait till the add the F16

Your videos are very well presented and highly educational. Keep up the good work! :)

@GrowlingSidewinder

5 жыл бұрын

thank you very much, I appreciate that.

Came here for the relaxing voice, stayed for how intriguing your strategy infos are.

@GrowlingSidewinder

5 жыл бұрын

lol glad u enjoyed mate

This gunfights are awesome, hope to see more.

Respectable and very humble. A lot of pilots would not post, much less dissect, a fight where they lost and or made a mistake. Bravo sir. Well played.

@GrowlingSidewinder

5 жыл бұрын

thank you. much appreciated

@grendul4497

5 жыл бұрын

Thank YOU! I just downloaded DCS a few days ago (coming from decades of flight simming) and have yet to sim in flight combat. I am using your tutorials as my own personal flight school, so I appreciate all the work that you've put into them as they are helping me out a ton!

@GrowlingSidewinder

5 жыл бұрын

thanks for letting me know youre finding them helpful im glad to hear that. hope you enjoy DCS, I love getting new pilots into the sky.

I’ve only just realized how beautiful the eagle looks with no drop tanks or missiles, great video!

Speed is Live Buddy ! keep on you mind and the Entry was vv nice. Thanks.

Nice to see an f15 do good, it's my favorite plane and I hate how everyone looks down on it for not being hifi

3 жыл бұрын

F-15 is more on energy retention which is why its too hard to fly but when you fly it well. You are basically untouchable. You can use its superior thrust to weight ratio to defeat the enemy.

@Jag683

3 жыл бұрын

TheRoshan not to mention it’s the fastest active duty plane in the usaf

@jrcadventures2905

3 жыл бұрын

It’s cheaper than the other planes and it’s an f15 so why would it be looked down on, that’s stupid. I think the f15 is a good plane to learn on

@nedbainbridge308

3 жыл бұрын

People nowadays look down on F15s because they can’t do much for the ground and haven’t scored a kill in 20 something years I believe

@VisibilityFoggy

3 жыл бұрын

@@nedbainbridge308 - In fairness, there has only been one air to air kill over the last 20 years in the entire U.S. military. It was a Super Hornet that shot down a Soviet-era attack jet (either Su-24 or Su-25) in Syria a few years back.

I would like to see a round 2 turning the tables on the F-18 into an F-15 fight.

@GrowlingSidewinder

5 жыл бұрын

a very interesting idea

this is one of very few channels where the video itself and the comments compliment each other so well. (well sometimes). after watching the video i always spend a good 10-20 mins reading through the comments as people with a lot of knowledge on the aircraft and tactics used always seem to find their way here

Great "What not to do" video :) Thanks GS!

Great fight as always, even though it didn't go your way this time. I'd like to see how round two would turn out with a full load of weapons.

@GrowlingSidewinder

5 жыл бұрын

haha ya i'll do that asap, the f15 would probably destroy the hornet with full BVR capability. especially since the hornet doesnt have TWS yet.

I saw F15s flyoverhead and see F16s occasionally...the F15 is massive compared to F16 and F18

@MasterChief-sl9ro

5 жыл бұрын

Why it's hard to see. Same thing for the F5.. It was so small. You had to have eyes like a Hawk to spot one. Usually when you do see it. It's too late. Their close already..

@nooranik21

4 жыл бұрын

The F-15 is jokingly called the "Flying Tennis Court"

@cholepriccee2069

4 жыл бұрын

That’s the f-14

@theboothy91

3 жыл бұрын

F-15s are surprisingly great at maneuvering

the f18 climbed up to you, made a turn, and still came out with more speed then you going pretty straight during his whole maneuver? what did he put in his fuel?

@GrowlingSidewinder

5 жыл бұрын

haha its the turn I did a the top that bled off my energy and allowed him to catch up. but ya that was weird for me too, thats why I thought I had more time next thing I know i'm being riddled with bullets.

@EstorilEm

5 жыл бұрын

Growling Sidewinder you didn’t stay vertical long enough - even a few more seconds and you would have had the advantage. As you alluded to - he was able to stay with you in a steady climb while observing, maintaining energy as you made extreme maneuvers and dumped speed. If you had gone vertical full afterburner, you should have been able to maintain (and increase) separation till he couldn’t hang anymore. Would have had a decent shot if you slowed down at the top and found him when you pitched-over.

@Jason608

5 жыл бұрын

@@GrowlingSidewinder you reversed your turn at the top and solved his angle problem for him. You would only want to reverse if you could force a 6 o'clock overshoot inside your turning radius.

I love how calm and relaxing your voice is dude. You would be an awesome air traffic coordinator or even a fighter pilot. Having a cool calm voice in tense situations is a great attribute...Bro:)

@GrowlingSidewinder

5 жыл бұрын

haha thanks brother I appreciate that.

Great video I'm learning a lot with them, thanks man! btw are you going to review and/or make videos with the A-4E?

@GrowlingSidewinder

5 жыл бұрын

Thanks Brian, and Yes, I've been learning it, I was going to look into doing one very soon, I just wanted to get permission from the guys that made it first also, and they also have gave the all clear for the video productions so I will deff be doing the A4E very soon.

@riderofthemark6661

5 жыл бұрын

@@GrowlingSidewinder That's great! I'll be waiting for it :D

@h.r.puffnstuff8705

5 жыл бұрын

@@GrowlingSidewinder Needs an F8 -js

Before buying DCS F/A-18C I thought the Hornet was a bad aircraft, hahaha. Excellent video!

@GrowlingSidewinder

5 жыл бұрын

glad you enjoyed it brother. thanks for ur support with the channel from the start man, you guys are always appreciated.

Loving that Scat scheme on the Eagle!

@GrowlingSidewinder

5 жыл бұрын

ya its a beaut I love it too

Dissimilar air combat training in various scenarios is where you learn how to "get gud". Know the strengths and weaknesses. Join the fight. Come home and study the results. This is what makes pilots better IRL. Keep up the good work

@GrowlingSidewinder

5 жыл бұрын

thanks man, will do.

Definitely agree with other comments about airspeed/energy. Part of that is that you were very abrupt with your turning at the end there and bled off all of the energy/altitude advantage you had just build up. You don't have to always be pulling 9G turns to win a fight.

He looped up into a pirouette like off a wave banking on your six, good fight !

The most enjoyable thing about this video was watching F-18 slide in air

Very cool and interesting video. Would love to see a F-16 vs F-18 pvp match.

@GrowlingSidewinder

5 жыл бұрын

unfortunately theres no f16 available to players in DCS, only AI and they're too dumb to make an interesting dogfight.

@shawnshawn6911

5 жыл бұрын

It all depends on the pilot. But if i truly had to pick one i would say the F-16

Thanks for the video amigo. I have shied away from DCS because of it’s complexity, but maybe I should take a second look.

Very interesting! Keep it up!

@GrowlingSidewinder

5 жыл бұрын

thanks so much willco.

Is your intro sound the lockon sound for the f14? Btw, amazing video as always

@GrowlingSidewinder

5 жыл бұрын

thank you, no my intro sound was off google lol. i just typed sidewinder lock on tone and grabbed the first one I got

Super vidéo

Next time when you’re dogfighting him and you’re in the 15, if he has high energy and you want him to overshoot in very similar circumstances, use your airbrake and drop your throttle instead of climbing. Doing this will make it easier for you to put your nose on him after he overshoots. As always, great video!

@GrowlingSidewinder

5 жыл бұрын

sounds a lot like what tom cruise did in top gun haha. thanks buddy glad u liked it.

@nolankahler6705

5 жыл бұрын

Growling Sidewinder yeah I realize this, however it’s advice I read from an actual Tomcat driver lol, he did aggressor training in 16s and 18s against 15s.

Good analysis...

Kudos to you uploading a video where you lose. Hat off.

Man I would love to have that game. I love dogfights and aeronautics. I don't have a computer though. Can you imagine what a dogfight game is gonna be like in 50 years from now .

@MrBird-bk7lb

5 жыл бұрын

Can't wait!!

@kenneth7118

5 жыл бұрын

Non existent most likely

@scottworley1479

5 жыл бұрын

Well I'm lookn back 50 years and technology has came a long way but not so far that I see us getting away from air to air combat.

Who else gets chills hearing the heat seeker lock on 😂😂

"Now, you really shouldn't do this but I'm going to do it and see what happens. ... Okay and next is going to BE... the exact same thing that I, once again, shouldn't do-FYI." 😂

Would've been interesting to see what would've happened had you stuck to your corner speed. I usually do that when in the F-15 and find that few fighters can follow a clean eagle here.

Oh no... god damn!

F/A-18 Hornet made this battle dance so perfect!

From my testing the F-15 has the best sustained turn of any aircraft in the game (as one would imagine). Hence a neutral first turn with him heavily leaking energy (despite your severely excessive entry speed). You want to sit at about 400 and play a rates fight, two circles and the like whilst utilizing the vertical to maintain that speed. The Hornet wants to pull you into a radius fight at low speeds, one circle, scissors, the usual. An ideal fight for both sides would play out with the Hornet aggressively forcing the radius fights which demand the F-15 follow and lose energy in high g turns to maintain a neutral fight. The Hornet will then push for the kill, the F-15 should try to use its superior TWR and play the vertical whilst gaining energy to hopefully leave the Hornet flustered and then dead. Its close enough to what we saw, but I don't feel that your initial energy loss was forced by the Hornet allowing you to potentially retain the advantage. Your mistake was to play his games, you sat at low energy and killed your energy giving him everything he wanted to stay on your six. On the deck you finally regained energy. I can't blame you for extending when you lost visual but had you seen him you would have been better served trying to prosecute the attack on the deck because he doesn't have the ability to trade altitude for speed anymore, and the F-18 needs that a lot more than the F-15. With your speed your initial turn should have been more of a pitchback above the horizontal than the slice we saw. Losing speed fast to get to turn velocity would be far better, and it would force him into pulling up into you when he doesn't want to. It goes against the rule of thumb for slice a two circle fight and pitchback a one circle, but the slice is mainly to retain turn velocity assuming an ideal entry or slower. Knowing his aircraft and that he held you in the turn the worst thing you could have done is to drop altitude and let him follow and retain velocity. Had you not he would have been severely struggling for speed and stuck either out of plane or losing the rates fight. They don't say the F-15 is a great vertical fighter for nothing. Honestly he deserved that kill. I wish it would have been at a better moment, but tactically he made fewer mistakes. Though saying that, the F-18 is tactically far easier too with the base instinct of pull an shoot rather than unloading or playing in the vertical like the F-15.

@nathanlennox6056

5 жыл бұрын

Besides a vertical fighter, what's your take on the F15 and its high speed turning fights? Rocketing around the slow energy fighters like the Mig29 and F18. The F15 has limited turning ability at prestall speeds, but at 500+ the thing can out turn almost anything else in the sky. Any strategies?

@olivialambert4124

5 жыл бұрын

So ignoring weapons and systems the F-15 is frankly the best aircraft in the game in my opinion. It absolutely dominates everything on high speed turns (450 knots), stays ahead at 350 knots sustained, and still sits slightly ahead of (but close to) the vast majority of aircraft at 200 knots sustained. 200 knots instantaneous (ie ability to point the nose) is really the only area it doesn't beat every other aircraft in the game, and that's one which on its own isn't going to be a big deciding factor in fights. It doesn't get a whole lot out of using flaps, but some aircraft like the Russian fighters can get a good deal extra turn rate and pointability with them (along with the significant drag increases) which is really the only point the F-15 isn't ahead of or equal to the competition. But if they don't capitalize on the advantage quickly they will lose too much energy and get killed. Of note for later is the fact that the F-15 engines are significantly more powerful at higher speeds (eg. over 350 knots) whilst other aircraft have this effect to a lesser extent. This goes beyond dogfighting speeds, supersonic for example, but isn't really relevant here. The disadvantage for the F-15, and the reason other platforms are considered the premier dogfighting aircraft for competition play, is the weapons and most importantly the HMS (or lack thereof). A good HMS is a massive leap forwards in lethality, and ultimately it means even if an aircraft like the Su-27 might get beaten in every single important metric there is it still has an advantage in getting a kill shot. With that in mind HMS aircraft will, in theory, want to finish the fight as soon as possible as every second longer the F-15's performance is putting it in a better position. In reality, however, the threat of a HOBS shot will allow the other pilots to push the F-15 in a disadvantageous position, forcing it to lower speeds quickly will reduce its advantage (such as the slow speed engine performance) and allow the enemy pilot more time to get the kill shot. The opposition pilot will want to force a radius fight, one circle, scissors etc which demands the F-15 drop its speed to 250 knots or below at which point its pointability and HOBS advantage will give it the advantage not seen in a guns-only fight. The F-15 will want to play a rates fight, two circle fights etc, and remain at about 400 knots. The dramatically higher sustained performance will mean it quickly gets the advantage. However this likely won't be possible with the enemy forcing a radius fight. Therefore the F-15 will want to try to retain as much energy as possible and when the opponent has aggressively pushed for an advantage the F-15 will hopefully be in a position it can recover energy and/or use its advantage through converting a flat scissors into a rolling scissors and later using the vertical and out of plane responses whilst the opponent is frankly limited in that regard. One thing not seen as much as it should be in DCS, on the attack the F-15 will want to retain a higher energy than the defender will manage. To get the kill it will need to extend whilst keeping its speed (and thus advantage) up. That obviously demands things like lag pursuit, plenty of high yo-yos, things not seen in DCS much. Essentially trying to avoid the single minded focus on lead pursuit and staying patient. The Mig-29, I love the aircraft but its performance is really lacking. Both the F-15 and Su-27 beat it in almost every area, and by quite a distance in some of the more important aspects. Its engine performance isn't a huge issue in a dogfight and its lacking turn performance really is. Frankly I see it as a high workload, low SA BVR fighter. High risk, high reward sort of thing. The F-14 I haven't done enough testing at all to say for certain but looking at it briefly it seems to do best at the sustained turn performance 350 knot region. Flown properly the F-15 should still be king, it's advantage at 450 knots is so far beyond all other aircraft whilst at 350 knots everything seems significantly closer and the F-15 is still king over the other aircraft there at least. Still DCS players tend to dump their energy very early and don't manage it well so a small advantage at 350 knots would likely do better for them than a big advantage at 450 knots. That said proper testing might show something else, a few aircraft have changed my opinion dramatically after testing. The Viggen being one, it is legitimately as good as (or better than) the Su-27 if weapons are taken out of the equation. The F-18 also hasn't been tested as well as I would have liked, I'm leaving the proper tests until after they're completely finalized. And when I have enough DCS time of course. TLDR, against the F-15 turn hard and be aggressive as is the norm in DCS. With the F-15 you need to fight properly and of huge importance is managing your speed and properly deciding when to slow down or speed up. The F-15 is OP, the helmet mounted sights are brutal. Just remember fighting the F-15 vs Su-27/F-18 its rates vs radius. Let me know if I've been incoherent anywhere, I wrote it out at 4AM.

@nathanlennox6056

5 жыл бұрын

@@olivialambert4124 Damn, im impressed. Do you have any spare time to teach more about these strategies? Im interested now haha

@olivialambert4124

5 жыл бұрын

I mean I'm happy to help if people need a hand. Unfortunately I haven't really seen an online resource or video I can point to as trustworthy or reliable as far as ACM goes. A lot of people seem to have read the other poor resources, think they know a lot more than they do, and thus give poor suggestions or incomplete conclusions. On top of that it isn't something which is learnt in an afternoon. There's a mass of information and it takes reading practicing and repeating for months to years before the pieces all fall into place. That said there is a book I can fully recommend as utterly incredible for online and real world pilots alike - Fighter Combat: Tactics and Maneuvering by Robert L. Shaw. If I remember correctly he is a Top Gun graduate who essentially helped develop some of the later tactics used. The book can be pretty dense especially for people who don't have a full grasp of the subject so expect it to take about a year or two of reading and practicing before the pieces start to fall into place but as you can imagine its completely reliable and doesn't have the misinformation online sources tend to. It's also a pretty well rounded book with just about everything ACM you could want but also tactics, 2v2 and 4v4 are pretty rounded, larger strike packages are touched upon but nothing more than a chapter or two for a subject which deserves its own complete book but its certainly going to set the foundation for further reading if that's important. Ultimately though a proper source, practice, and time are all needed to get there. For practice I actually recommend War Thunder. Its more of an arcade than a sim but everything real world tactics applies just as completely in War Thunder than anywhere else. More importantly I can't think of any other resource where you can get 30 dogfights an hour with real world people and complete unpredictability from jump ins, teammates attacking you by mistake, just about everything you need to help you take the tactics from theoretical to thinking and responding in real time properly and correctly. Anyway good luck and remain patient.

Hornet/Tomcat are more forgiving then most fighters because they turn better at lower speed (Mach 0.5-0.6) after they already have used up a lot of energy getting there plus they have great pointing ability (AoA) to boot below that speed. To fight them effectively and efficiently in a F-15 you need to keep speed at Mach 0.7+. Probably doing a climb under Mach 0.5 for SA was what done you but your opponent has excellent flying and energy management skills so absolutely no shame in losing to him, good educational fight for you and your viewers. Oh also at high altitude the F-15 can also outturn all the other US teen fighters. F-15 like F-22 normally start combat at high altitude and high transonic speed. You probably would have won this fight at much higher altitude with the same tactics.

Man, I cant believe how well the F18 did against your F15. I got to talk to a F18 pilot and how he would fight against a SU35. He said he would try to bring him down to a lower/slower altitude and that looks like what happened here. He told me if they stayed at a higher altitude the F15 with its bigger engines and wings he would ne in a lot of trouble. Very impressive.

@GrowlingSidewinder

5 жыл бұрын

yup, to be fair to the eagle, i didnt fly it very well, but I think what ur saying is still very true, no matter how well u fly it, the eagle well have trouble against the hornet low and slow. you'd have to be a great f15 pilot to kill a skilled hornet at low altitudes in a turning fight.

@Woody-nc1ru

5 жыл бұрын

@@GrowlingSidewinder Well for what you were doing with the F15, don't see how else you could've flown it. It would be interesting to see what a real F15 pilot would do, other than climb out of there. Maybe if he was able to keep his airspeed above 300knts? I cant believe how the F18 was able to build up the energy for the over shoot and when he shot you down... Gotta be a physics thing?

@GrowlingSidewinder

5 жыл бұрын

I think I was bleeding tooo much energy which gave the illusion the f18 was building massive energy advantages. a few people have pointed that out in this video tho, I myself did not expect him to build that kind of energy which is how he caught me off guard and killed me. I personally can't explain it 100% if i'm being honest.

@Woody-nc1ru

5 жыл бұрын

@@GrowlingSidewinder I don't get it either, he was maneuvering hard too. I figured the F15's bigger engines and bigger wings you should've just muscled your way out of there to a better position. But then again you were staying down low staying with the merge. I have to be missing something, probably something easy. Or just the F18 is better lower and slower? Its just hard to believe, the F15 is,,,, a F15...

Cool game!! Where was this when I was young playing wolfenstein 3D?

I am totally cheering for delta2echo.

Hi Growling sidewinder, just Subbed I like your videos! Just wondering, what are you using to look around? I have tried using my vive and it is just too painful not being able to see my controls. If you are using VR can you give me some tips? I'd really ylike to use it, amazing immersion

@GrowlingSidewinder

5 жыл бұрын

hey lucas, i'm glad u liked the videos and welcome to the channel i'm actually not using VR i'm using something called trackIR 5. its another kind of head tracker.

F-16C vs F/A-18C will be interesting

Damn that’s a good video👍🏽subbed👍🏽

You don’t have time to think up there .If you think,you’re dead

That was a beautiful guns kill.

Pretty kewl!

What I sometimes do when I get in a tight turn fight and have lots of speed, on the merge I'll pull the throttle back, extend the airbrakes, and surprise them with a much faster turn and sometimes even end up behind them. It's a bit risky in the sense that you'll lose a lot of energy, but I find that if I'm already going 550 and 600+ knots, i have plenty of energy to work with at the end of it and if you're using an f15, you'll be able to regain energy fast.

Fighting over the residential area of Dubai. I wonder how many civs were KIA while this was going on from stray gunfire.

In this game what happens if you just run away and make it a fuel fight?

To be honest the best videos are ones that dont go your way to review. Everyone learns more.

@GrowlingSidewinder

5 жыл бұрын

ive heard that a few times and I agree

that cat took ya

Lets see F15 vs F14 next.

According to Aus fighter pilot Matt Hall who's flown both aircraft including combat missions over Iraq in the F15, if the F18 didn't get the F15 in the first few min of the fight then it was game over for the F18

I have the ai at excellent and his waypoint going to me. But even on excellent, the f14 forexample does not engage me until 20 miles or so. It doesnt shoot a phoenix from lets say 100 km or locks on me until iam very close and can see it flying in front of me. Is there something i have to change in settings so it can engage me earlier?

no offense but losing to an F18 in an F15 is a little embarassing. Props to you for uploading it and giving us an analysis of the dogfight though. great content nonetheless

@GrowlingSidewinder

5 жыл бұрын

Andre Santa Maria ya it's supposed to be an example of what not to do. Thanks tho much appreciated bro.

Good thing the plane didn't fall on a house

Hornet rules! 😎

thrust vector is a must have tool

Nice video. Not only does the Hornet turn better but it also handles better at low speeds. The Eagle seemed easier to stall.

@GrowlingSidewinder

5 жыл бұрын

yesss, a huuuuge difference.

Good faith.time reaction man.

I like the older jet gun fights.

Hi, I don't play this game but I enjoy your vids nonetheless. I do have a question though. How much of what you explain during tacview segment is a conscious decision you made during the fight and how much is, for a lack of a better word, instinct. For example the thing you talk about around 7:40 - did you think in that terms during the fight or it came into thought and words after when you were making the vid?

@GrowlingSidewinder

5 жыл бұрын

hi there, thanks for watching the videos even though you don't play DCS, the overshoot situation was more of an instinct built on experience, I've tried it so many times at this point I do it instinctively, although I try to explain and talk through while I'm doing it to let people see my thought process. nothing here is just raw "instinct" its build up experience that translate into instinct. the more you dogfight the better you get at it and the better those instincts will become. as for how much of the tacview is instinct and how much am I consciously thinking during the fight its probably like 40% instinct and 60% conscious thought reaction to moves hes making. like if I see him go vertical I know hes going to trade speed for altitude and if I dont want to overshoot I better ease off on the throttle...thats built up instinct, I dont even have to think about that at this point. but if its something like ok hes now turn fighting me on the deck then I can't use instinct I have to start doing math, ok his advantage is this and that, mine is this and those, so I should do....this. I hope that makes sense.

when you make a pass, two obtions or accelerate to mach 1 or higher or slow down at a speed slightly higher than the minimum flight speed. and you make a Chandelle.

I can only dream about DCS adding some varitech VFs on this hah; again, one can only dream.

Very nice one GS!!. now I am wondering... can you plz show us how to fight correctly in a 1 Hornet (you) v 2 AI's, with you having 2 AMRAAM's and 2 9X's and the leader AI has 2 Fox 1's and 2 Fox 2's, and his wingman has only 2 Fox 2's, the engagement starts at 60 nm. I have a mission file for that if you're interested :)

@GrowlingSidewinder

5 жыл бұрын

hey man, join my discord and send me the file. I'll give it a try for sure

@jaduke

5 жыл бұрын

First few minutes of this video show pretty much that, albeit without a relevant talk-through. kzread.info/dash/bejne/dWyHyrVwlsu6lNY.html

Ok I'm brand new into seeing dcs and that is awesome! His much to start and what do I need??? Help plz! This would be great vr

@GrowlingSidewinder

5 жыл бұрын

DCS is a free download. so you can download it and check if your computer can run it. u get 2 free planes to start and with a new a4e mod (you have to install it yourself) you essentially get 3 free planes. then you'll need a trackir or a VR set as you said, and then a joystick. and thats it. you're done.

Many years ago my favorite video games were combat flight simulators but I got out of it right around the time IL2 came into being. I'm not sure how much support DCS has with World War II era airplanes but this type of fighting here in this video is exactly what I'm interested in. Pilot, energy, and bullets not missiles. Seems IL2 is still the way to go??

One thing I have never understood is what has the better advantage, a twin or single tail? Or what are the pros and cons? So what is the more maneuverable aircraft? F16 vs say f15 or an f18?

would love to see the same scenario but with SU-35/f-15!

@Mankind123

4 жыл бұрын

There is not su 35

@Figjamxlaststar

4 жыл бұрын

hawk Arab You are wrong mate. nationalinterest.org/blog/buzz/russias-su-35-spooks-us-air-force-heres-what-we-can-tell-you-55802

hey, I would love to see you try again now. I bet you could win now if you try again in the F-15 versus the hornet, specially with all the experience you have accumulated so far...

What cpu/gpu are you running? Looks like you're on or near max settings.

@GrowlingSidewinder

2 жыл бұрын

this is a super old video, I don't even remember the specs of this PC

Low altitudes, low speeds F-18 is awesome. It doesn’t lose much speed as it’s turning.

Interesting video - however, you're way too heavy to dogfight in the Eagle, almost full of fuel! Try flying with less than 6000lbs of fuel and it will turn significantly better! Also, in the F-15 try using the vertical rather than horizontal for a turning fight - use all that power to your advantage :)

Round1: I thought the Eagle could still fly missing a wing :)

You had the power advantage but you tend to get into descending spirals even with a guy who has a tighter turning radius. Watching the tach view you'll notice that twice you went into a climbing turn. The first time you actually broke even with the hornet, the second time you cut his advantage but both times you went back to your old habit and he outturned you. Think vertical!

As a weapons loader on the strike eagle I believe it has superior radar and the combo of AIM 7 and AIM 120 the eagle should have been able to take out the hornet long before the hornet even knew the F15 was in the area. I’m not familiar with F18 technology though.

WHOA!!!

I only watch videos and dont play DCS. Dont know which aircrafts there are availabla... Do you have an F-18 vs F-16 guns only fight video? This video reminds me what the Fighter Mafia was saying against the F-15 back then. I think I recall something like it... I could be wrong though...

@GrowlingSidewinder

5 жыл бұрын

sorry man no f16 in DCS as of right now

Everytime I hear your intro I wanna yell FOX 1, FOX 2 lol

@GrowlingSidewinder

5 жыл бұрын

A thru Z Gaming haha fox 2 would be correct thanks got watching the videos man

You completely forgot about your defensive countermeasures.

WW2 equivalent of this fight would be something like a P-47D vs P-51D, and I get a strong sense that it would play out at least somewhat similarly. Just my thoughts though, could be completely wrong though, and it also depends on which specific variant of the P-47D and P-51D as there are many with somewhat different weights and handling differences. If anyone else has a better WW2 equivalent I would be interested to hear it. I always wonder what certain modern vehicles can be compared to older vehicles in terms of handling and performance characteristics and what they are tailored for. Its fun, especially with planes. :P

Please make a video on how to beat F-18 as an F-15

so I have purchased the DCS: Flaming Cliffs 3 module... and I want to do some F15 tutorial, but when I click on the training tab it only shows me the SU 27 training. Can someone help me figure this out... do I have to buy the F15 module to get the training option?

@GrowlingSidewinder

4 жыл бұрын

come in the discord mate, there is no FC3 tutorial as far as i know, I had the same problem. you need to start watching youtube tutorials to get the idea thats the way to learn DCS, also join my discord as I said lots of people there to help noobs link in my recent video descriptions

Great video! Talk louder next time though

Why not grab some altitude at the merge? While he’s bleeding off speed flying in horizontal circles use the F-15’s superior climb rate to engage with a decisive energy advantage.

As soon as he turned and gave you the first snap-shots and you realized his turns are tighter you should just keep going straight full throttle, and get some distance, no point in keep spiraling down like that, you just gave your ass to him over and over again.

The ball was always in his court in this one :(

@GrowlingSidewinder

5 жыл бұрын

haha, ya and he was a good enough pilot to exploit it