so once again, for the record, these aircraft are just mods and we're just having some fun, it would be ridiculous to assume these are the true capabilities of these aircraft. thank you for watching and you will find the download links below. SU-57 Pak Fa Project By CubanAce Simulations: www.digitalcombatsimulator.com/en/files/2539621/ Grinnelli F-22A Raptor Mod: drive.google.com/drive/folders/1tTSD-xAruEHQcTlwpA79Ft7CRBqlw0TM?usp=sharing

@c3f59

4 жыл бұрын

🤣So this is your version of Ace Combat then? Thanks for having fun and letting us share in it, man!

@michaelpapajim3548

4 жыл бұрын

I bet the cobra he pulled on you is very close to real life capabilities

@FoxWithTheAngels

4 жыл бұрын

Does the f-22 mod need fc3?

@musolo78

4 жыл бұрын

Try VSN F22 against SU57 it has more of a F22-ish FM one could say and feels less like F15. It`s much more maneuverable and picks up speed faster and stalls much less more stable . Allso i noticed in bvr it`s a lot more difficult to lock each other in BVR with hesethese jets. Would be cool to have a little experimental server dedicated to 5th gen fighters and AI planes flyable.

@tadounia01

4 жыл бұрын

@@FoxWithTheAngels yes

Only Canadians can say “very disrespectful” perfectly.

@GrowlingSidewinder

4 жыл бұрын

Lold

@raccoonmoustache

4 жыл бұрын

Weird he didn’t say sorry for dying

@euclideancrypt8051

4 жыл бұрын

I'm now curious how you incorrectly say, "very disrespectful" 😋

@TonyL-gw4qx

3 жыл бұрын

With a weak lip.

@michaelkneringer3194

2 жыл бұрын

@@raccoonmoustache The Canadians that I've met all were so polite. Spiritually refreshing for me.

It’s good when such fights take place here, and not in reality. Greetings from Russia

@GrowlingSidewinder

4 жыл бұрын

could not agree more brother.

@dsm3759703

3 жыл бұрын

After you guys ditched the USSR....I love Russians.

@rzor1911

3 жыл бұрын

We must work together all countries and create space force together, Earth is not our destiny.

@Goldarr1900

3 жыл бұрын

We love Russians in U.S Never heard of the “ CrazyRussianHacker”? I love his videos.Forgot to mention he’s a Russian American.

@brussell639

3 жыл бұрын

@YuriShindin You've got that right, comrade!

Getting flared on is basicly getting teabagged/ shit on

@BIOSHOCKFOXX

3 жыл бұрын

T-bag for airplane players :D

Just to clear things up, this was a project I made a while back when I was trying to learn how to create a module for DCS. It uses the F-15 FM and systems so it is NOT an F-22 its an F-15 in F-22 clothes. It was intended to be used for virtual airshows and just general goofing around. I never intended to make a full fidelity F-22 that's acculturate down to the last rivet, in fact I picked the F-22 because it is so classified and it gave me more creative freedom to experiment and learn how to make everything work. If you decide to try the mod it does require FC3 to be installed to work. Bay Doors open on Left Alt+G, MFD pages change on Left Shift+D, the usual lights and other things work as they should, and you can A-A Refuel the plane as well. Huge thanks to GS for doing a mod showcase video and having fun with DCS and for all his hard work!!! ~Grinnelli

@Surpriseify

4 жыл бұрын

Cool! Thanks for making it ;)

@GrowlingSidewinder

4 жыл бұрын

It's a great mod man and I think in BVR it could deff hold its own. It's great to have guys like you who make these fun little mods for us to play around with. You bring a lot to the table so thanks for ur work on this one.

@WingmanFinder

4 жыл бұрын

Thank you for making this! Just randomly curious, how long did it take you to make the mod?

@bluefox9436

4 жыл бұрын

Looks pretty nice - I am really not that into programming but that must've been a ton of work. Would it be possible to model thrust vectoring for the F22? It would be really interesting to see which plane has the edge then.

@patelivid1637

4 жыл бұрын

It’s crazy how it’s 20 years old and it still has classified stuff about it.

Wait.....did I actually see GS use his ejection seat for once during a defeat? hahaha

@GrowlingSidewinder

4 жыл бұрын

ahah ya i been working on that issue. getting better at it.

@slgarrett

4 жыл бұрын

@@GrowlingSidewinder don't be so hesitant about going vertical. That's how you trade speed for energy. You want to charge at him as fast as you can (SUPERCRUISE DUDE!) pull hard on the stick, shoot straight up in the air and force him to chase you then crap out at the top first. Then you chase him the whole way down, guns a'blazin'. :-)

@flyer2512

4 жыл бұрын

I was waiting for that moment 2 years 🤣🤣

@mayankraj2294

3 жыл бұрын

Gs?

@yisuscraist6959

3 жыл бұрын

mayank raj growling sidewinder

4:38 that was really slick I'd be furious haha

@GrowlingSidewinder

4 жыл бұрын

Tony Rios lol yes I was pretty upset in that moment.

@Optimaloptimus

4 жыл бұрын

Fast and Furious reference?

@ivanhudi248

4 жыл бұрын

What is name of this manuever

@micheleacegamer7730

4 жыл бұрын

@@ivanhudi248 cobra

@limescaleonetwo3131

4 жыл бұрын

@@ivanhudi248 aces refer to this particular maneuver a "turn"

Dogfighting isn’t just combat, it’s an art style

@kwkfortythree39

3 жыл бұрын

Indeed is like fencing, an art but if you are doing it in a real war you are on the losing side.

"Very disrespectful" 😂

@Surpriseify

4 жыл бұрын

Ultimate disrespect is at times needed, GS can take it

In all of Growling Sidewinder videos I watch he says, something to the effect of: "Go vertical and you will die."....so, in this video, just to prove himself right, Growling Sidewinder goes vertical.....and.....he dies..... ;)

@GrowlingSidewinder

4 жыл бұрын

Lmao yup. You got me there.

@303Pinker

4 жыл бұрын

I dissagree. After overshoot he should keep vertical climb till oponent stall & fall off. He had speed advantage at that point.

@williamkillingsworth2619

4 жыл бұрын

It wasn’t the vertical maneuver that got him dead. F-22 climbs like a beast, GS bled all that energy advantage. Watch the F-22’s airspeed plumment. Thats what got him killed, bled too much energy in the vertical. And turned directly into the Su-57’s path. How did he (f-22) go from .75mach to .4 mach?

@303Pinker

4 жыл бұрын

@@williamkillingsworth2619 You are right but partially. First he was unable to score shoot from six. Seccondly came to close at SU six. At the end GS made overshoot. Go into vertical was correct decision cause he had greater speed than SU, but he should continue that climb till SU fall off. To early turn into SU during vertical climb exposed Raptor for easy kill.

@dsdy1205

3 жыл бұрын

Ate proved GS right as well, he went vertical and GS died

The exterior shot from the ground at 3:46 is downright cinematic. Well done. Good flying and stream of consciousness as always

4:40 Sunde: "I'm gonna hit the brakes, he'll fly right by"

@Kay_213_

4 жыл бұрын

Gonna show em a little trick I learned!

@fastwing3295

4 жыл бұрын

"You're gonna do WHAT?!"

@CES_2005

3 жыл бұрын

I just saw that movie for the first time.

@MikoyanGurevichMiG21

3 жыл бұрын

The Su 57 just doing what his gymnast dad the Flanker did so well

@alexhebert2948

3 жыл бұрын

"Very disrespectful" 😂

Holy Cow. !!! 4:36 -Bad decision!! 4:38- situation worsens !! 4:49- su-57 holy move 5:01- F-22 dead. !! What a wonderful fight !! ❤️❤️

@shrek_2_on_dvd699

2 жыл бұрын

F15*

5:00 *Wing detaches* "Woah... That's a big fire"

Epstien didn’t yeet himself

@Citadin

4 жыл бұрын

he's probably still alive and watching F35s overhead in the Israeli desert...

@abomb4951

4 жыл бұрын

@@Citadin nah. Hes in the Clinton Mansion basement

@drones7838

4 жыл бұрын

Fighter Pilot agreed

@burnerjack01

4 жыл бұрын

@@abomb4951 He's a little tied up at the moment, in Hillary's BDSM dungeon...

"You never wanna get close to somebody" That's some wise words.

1:44 That's was some fire roll right there.. Bada$$..

7:38 "..and we'll just have to sit while he goes through his jinking bulls**t all over again". Lol you sound frustrated at this point. Great video, it's always nice to see some mods on here every now and then.

@GrowlingSidewinder

4 жыл бұрын

ahahah ya well hes so good and slippery it does get frustrating. fair play to him tho, nice to see ur still kicking around here boss. hope youre doing well.

WHAT DO YOU MEAN IT'S NOT ACCURATE?! Yes, I expect the US and Russia to give us 100% IRL test results of their most secret aircraft so we can play awesome video games... AND I WANT THEM NOW! Throw in a Eurofighter whilst your at it. 😅

@SHiFTyTReATS

4 жыл бұрын

He was referring to what we know about it, with how the Raptor mod doesn’t include thrust vectoring u twat. It was pretty obvious, the rest of us got it.

@nou-jn6uz

3 жыл бұрын

Lmaoooo I'm ded

@doug9905

3 жыл бұрын

@@SHiFTyTReATS You must be the Queen Twat to miss the sarcasm.

You can always tell how often I’m watching GS videos by the amount of monitor cleaner I go through.

Thank you for this channel and the hard work you all do! My daughter loves watching anything raptor related, it's awesome she can now watch it directly from the Air Force!

5:19 epic

Dude, I got excited when this popped up in my notification. I think you did very well with the F-22A. Your maneuvering with this F-22A mod was just as good as the Su-57 but I agree the Su-57 thrust was a little better. You're just a smarter pilot and that's all that matters. thanks for sharing bro

@GrowlingSidewinder

4 жыл бұрын

thanks buddy I had a lot of luck on my side, thanks for watching my bro.

@notaveragecr6041

3 жыл бұрын

What happened to the bullshit T/W ratio of the F-22

I love the TAC view and analysis. That was a great stalemate. Wonderful job!

Damn whenever I watch your dogfight videos I get stunned by these planes doing sicc maneuvers XD

Awesome fight, I loved every moment of it even if this isn't a real representation. Would've loved to see the 2nd tacview, and I hope you guys will duel with these two again in the future. I love both jets.

@GrowlingSidewinder

4 жыл бұрын

very kind of you thank you, and thanks for watching.

@johnnychavez3740

4 жыл бұрын

Fly n fight for real. See where it ends. This I'd all b. S. Thanks.

@johnnychavez3740

4 жыл бұрын

Waste of time. Get yourself in a real fight.

I appreciate the fact that you didn't go over your victory in TAC view. It shows that you have confidence in yourself, but you're not arrogant. Well done sir.

DAT manouverability.... Man, the disrespect XD

I stumbled across your channel and glad I did. I really enjoy watching. Thanks for the great content!

@GrowlingSidewinder

4 жыл бұрын

thanks so much don, very kind of you. glad to have you here.

4:38 True russian style there!

@anonymouse6129

3 жыл бұрын

Bruh you are russian

@anonymouse6129

3 жыл бұрын

Can they do it without 3d thrust vector?

@Qwerty-no5qq

3 жыл бұрын

@@anonymouse6129 no

It's funny, GS: You always always say "don't go vertical" LOL! Now THAT's leading by example! Great vid as always. Your knowledge base in your head has got to overload sometimes, brother. I like how you have your approach to the dogfight. You have the principles locked in your head, then you have the ability to mold them to the aircraft you're flying. You are always level-headed and speaking in a calm voice, even during last-minute ejections! :)

4:38 *"Omae Wa mou shindereou!"*

@darkestlost

3 жыл бұрын

Nani?!

That su57 is remarkably agile, holy crap

@shrek_2_on_dvd699

2 жыл бұрын

Yep it beat an f15.

Why does the f22 not have the thrust vectoring with it in the mod?

@deborahchesser7375

3 жыл бұрын

Exactly! There’s no way that SU57 would just spank a Raptors ass, no way. Ok, I get it now, it’s not a perfected version. I give credit where it’s due and this is still a very impressive game.

@josephdale3996

3 жыл бұрын

@@deborahchesser7375 All f 22 Raptors come equipped with the latest in thrust vectoring...standard equipment at that...i don't know what the hell version of the Raptor this dudes trying to fly !

@vaccuumrolls7243

3 жыл бұрын

Joseph Dale this was when the mod was very early in development. The creator has added many more features since. Check out GSs more recent videos with the raptor to see.

@vaccuumrolls7243

3 жыл бұрын

Joseph Dale he has said he will do a rematch when both the f22 and su57 mods are finished.

@favscripts7680

3 жыл бұрын

At this time the f22 mod was actually an F15 in f22 clothes. Soon he will finish updating the mod so it will be more sccurate

This is the kinda content I love cause it’s not about the planes performance it’s about how many mistakes you can make before the other guys has the jump on you

You don’t know how long I have been waiting for this to Pop up in my notifications

Nice vid. Liked the fight, just for the joy of it!!

@GrowlingSidewinder

4 жыл бұрын

thank you, and thanks for watching mate

Awesome, even though it's just mods its still very entertaining to watch. I don't like how clean and new the cockpit looks though compared to the 4th gen cockpits ... they just look so much more fun with all the old flip switches etc. Great video as always GS.

I will say that was really nice to see considering like you pointed out the 57s lack of struggle. You made a great point though that the plane almost seems too fast and "slippery" to where you could potentially lose control and ultimately the dog fight. Great video! 👍

That SU-57 is just a joy to watch during those antics :)

These videos are endlessly entertaining

@GrowlingSidewinder

4 жыл бұрын

Glad you feel that way thanks for watching

End of round one. "Very disrespectful". LMAO:)

GS just did basic maneuvers like simply turning left or right, up and down etc, consistently pointing the Raptor's nose towards the enemy plane. The Su 57 was like doing more complex maneuvers like unpredictably barrel rolling from all sorts of directions. It's like watching a match between a focused rookie vs a much more overconfident veteran where the rookie wins.

@razorfett147

3 жыл бұрын

My thoughts as well. The other guy was trying to be TOO cute...especially the 2nd round....and it caught up with him.

Wow, that fight was amazing! I played DCS with my friend a few times, but these maneuvers are awesome!

I swear to god every time I hear your intro I get scared of that sound 😂

@samuelparker9882

4 жыл бұрын

That MOVE, with the thrust vectoring WAS ABSOLUTELY BAD ASS! After that maneuver, you had NO CHANCE. DEAD MAN FLYING! I know that you DON'T want to call it a cobra... but IT'S EXACTLY WHAT A COBRA LOOKS LIKE WHEN IT FLARES ITS HOOD TO ANNOUNCE AN ATTACK. WHETHER BITTING OR SPITTING. IT IS WHAT IT IS... and that's a COBRA. You STILL fly and handle those jets and airframes with authority and a deft touch! Shit...FAAAAR BETTER than I can ,probably ever will; at least for the time being. I'll improve and DEFINITELY I'LL KEEP WATCHING YOUR STUFF. REMEMBER, draw your weapon slightly before you hit the ground after bailing... you just might have to come up BANGIN' ON EM'!!!!! LOL! PEACE AND PROSPERITY TO ALL.

Great video as always GS. love seeing the 22 in action even if it is just a mod.

@GrowlingSidewinder

4 жыл бұрын

Lepermessiyah thanks buddy glad you enjoyed

GS you are the most consitent person on this platform. The type of guy you want to go into business with dope vid

one of the coolest dogfights I have seen so far, very pog

Marvel: Endgame is the most ambitious crossover in human hist... Growling Sidewinder: Watch Me Was about to go to sleep, but saw this in my recommended and now I just want to boot up DCS, get that 5th Gen boi and cobra-drift through the clouds. Awesome vid, man keep it up, it feels good learning from people like you, especially as I am just getting into this stuff.

@GrowlingSidewinder

4 жыл бұрын

Darius TI thanks buddy I appreciate the kind words glad you enjoyed hope u didn’t lose too much sleep

Awesome dogfight guys, that SU-57 has some seriously impressive maneuvering capabilities.

Great video man. I really enjoyed it

I love to see 5th gen fights it’s really fun to watch. Great video btw 👍🏾

OH YES! BEEN WAITING ON THIS VID BROTHER!!! BVR next????!!

Brother, I love watching ur vids especially how unbiased you are

@GrowlingSidewinder

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks man I appreciate it.

@notaveragecr6041

3 жыл бұрын

@@GrowlingSidewinder when lots of people try to kill each other in the comments.

Hell yes! This was the video I was always waiting for haha showdown between the deadliest of aircraft, and the deadliest of aces! These could be a final boss fight for DCS lol *Megalith starts playing*

You guys definitely know your stuff, awesome flying. Curious for BVR now...

Been waiting a year for this

A4 vs F5 down the road?

One more thing. F-22 has TWC as well, but only 2D - in vertical plane, which is most important.

I think the biggest gripe I have with the SU-57 is the engines. the f22 and f35 both try to bring the engine as much inside the frame to lower is radar and allow the stealth panels to cover as much as possible, but it looks like the russians didnt even bother trying to add any streamlining or stealth to those massive things.

Seems pretty frustrating to do these since theres no way of knowing how accurate either mod is to real life.

Is it just me or does it seem the F-22 seems a little bit to sluggish in this mod? So the mod for the F-22 dose not have thrust vectoring....... why? That’s one of the biggest mistakes in the world

@FoxWithTheAngels

4 жыл бұрын

Agreed man

@xenimaging

4 жыл бұрын

The f22 mod doesn't have thrust vectoring, the su57 mod does. I think that's why the f22 seems so sluggish.

@dg6546

4 жыл бұрын

@@xenimaging I think there is not yet thrust vectoring in DCS. It was just an animation. But the data of performance of SU57 mod is much much much better than the F22 mod

@TheMiGger

4 жыл бұрын

@@dg6546 Do you mean that the Su-57 mod is better than the F-22 one right now?

@DK-ig8zi

4 жыл бұрын

Both doesn't have thrust vectoring in this mod which (as far as i know) put off the main advantage of the SU 57. If there is the trust vectoring is in this mod then you really don't want to go into a dogfight with the SU 57. You need a F 22 or a very good manouvering 4th gen fighter such as a flanker or a mirage(because of it's ability to bleed it's air speed). The SU 57 has better performance for dogfights while in long range it's the F 22 that has better performance because he is a little bit steathier at least radar wise. And at medium ranges it's equal except that su 57 as 2 more missiles than f 22.

That’s something we really wanted to see

That was a beautiful kill.. I'm in the process of saving for a pc and setup just so I can try dcs world. I love watching these dogfights

Good vid but from my experience the su57 has too much power I've went vertical to 100,000 ft and was still gaining speed

@joesmith389

4 жыл бұрын

The game lets the 57 get to 100k ft? Isn’t it supposed to be realistic?

@dictatorofsalt5902

4 жыл бұрын

It shouldn't go vertical to 100k feet tho

@joesmith389

4 жыл бұрын

Ferdian Zulfa C.K. Ah. Got it.

@JG27Korny

4 жыл бұрын

The thrust to weight ratio of the su 57 is too optimistic. By the way it makes the most challenging bot in the game and I love it. However my tie fighter always come on top LOL.

@JG27Korny

4 жыл бұрын

@Sean Baca It is a Russian spy game, some developers got criminal charges because they used original F16 documentation to make the module. It as real as it gets. If the Russians did not develop the game we could never get anything similar. For the same reason we will not get a full modern Russian module.

I finally saw an ejection! Interesting to pass with chaffs, hehehe very disrespctfull. I wouldn’t do that but it is funny.

@aliahmed7618

3 жыл бұрын

Hope that wasn’t out of pride. The real pilot doesn’t do that. May be that was just a “Salute”

The difference in turn rate and maneuverability is astounding

Couldn't wait for the newer one so watched this again

Why is there any 2d thrust vector on F-22 mod?

@Baskara0490

4 жыл бұрын

danny Eddith f22 in reality only have 2D up and down.

@SS-wj3lt

4 жыл бұрын

F-22 only has a 2d thrust vector. Have you even seen a F-22? Su-35 will beat F-22 any day in a dog fight. Let alone Su-57

@faridadungca5822

4 жыл бұрын

S S lol stop dreaming

@genkabigfellow8552

4 жыл бұрын

@@SS-wj3lt at the end of the day the pilots that fly the aircraft decide how it ends

@genkabigfellow8552

4 жыл бұрын

@@SS-wj3lt not you

In real life the F 22 does have thrust vectoring. I don’t know how or if you can add it to DCS.

@GrowlingSidewinder

4 жыл бұрын

Spencer Brown yes it does it's just hard to model in DCS but ur right in real life it does have it.

keep up ur good work man, i love ur fights... iwish i had a console of my own

Great fight dude👍

more like Growling AAMRAAM

Without much of the hype surrounding both aircraft, or at least what is publicly known and confirmed about them, I believe SU-57 is the better fighter in real life. But it's very subjective, I agree.

Great duels, very enjoyable vid

Nice videos bro and good job

Su-57 unit cost is 42 Million$ while F-22 is 150 Million$... It is almost 4 times more costly... For the same price, Russians can get 4 more planes... It would only 2 planes at worst to kill 1... Try to do sim with 4 SU57 and 1 F22 (same price range)... See whether F22 survives... US economy is going down and therefore, there won't be huge budget to purchase more planes in the future.... PS: F22 is from 1996 and Su57 is 2009.... 13 years younger and more advanced...

@thomaskettunen3699

3 жыл бұрын

Russia has like 12 SU-57s. Also their oil reliant economy is nosediving, what happened to t-14 tank?

Awesome, I've been waiting for this ever since you did the F22 vs. F14 video. :-) @14:05, that's more of a high-G barrel roll than a cobra.

@johnnychavez3740

4 жыл бұрын

Only a simulation All this is bullshit. Depends on pilots ability. This is childish bullshit.

@joshimuddin5454

2 жыл бұрын

@@johnnychavez3740 calm down

I just discovered this channel, and holy shit it’s fun to watch

Round one man. That round he did so freaking well with those jinks

Glad you got him back in the 2nd round

Love to see this matchup again with the updated F22 mod that presumably has thrust vectoring,

Very nice representation of both aircraft.

Another great mod vid, Side! One of my fantasy mods I'd love to see is the VF-1 "Valkyrie" Jolly Rogers fighter from the Japanese animated Macross series. Or even better, the FFR-31MR D "Super Sylph" aircraft from another anime short series called Yukikaze. If you've never seen or have no interest in anime, I'd still recommend a look both Macross (especially Macross Plus) and Yukikaze mimi series (btw, the novels its based on are an excellent read).

4:38 that closure caught ya pants down while trying to gun him. Just a bit too greedy

Beautiful kill with those double barrel rolls, very good flying. You should've shown the TAC ACM recording.

Dude you have some skills!

Great dogfight

Thrust brevity is built in to the F-22's flight computer. It is always working. Every time you turn, thrust thrust is working with you.

This is some AMAZING FACEOFF!

From the radio interception it became clear that the Russian pilot really did not want to shoot the F-22, he really liked to watch from the side how it flies... ;-)

Wow they’ve got to get the thrust vectoring on the DCS F-22!!

Awesome! I didn't know, there was an F-22 avaible for DCS !

That Cobra like maneuver was fucking awesome

At last i see it what im requesting the other in my comment in your BVR F22 Vs. SU33 ...thanks for making this very enjoying tactical simulation videos

@sebastiaomendonca1477

4 жыл бұрын

Wouldnt really be fair.

@anythingunderthesun5003

4 жыл бұрын

@@sebastiaomendonca1477 IMO it's not Fair, in reality Su57 is more powerful, but it defends also on the skilled of a Pilot, again In reality Russia will not let their top of the Line fighter jet on the hand of a rookie pilot it will be piloted with their best most veteran airman

Crazy flying. If that Su-57 can really pull those kind of moves it's pretty scary. Keep up the good work, and keep up with the tac view. I love the AARs in tac view. Makes it really easy to see how the dogfight plays out.

@jafon9

3 жыл бұрын

Sukhois can pull off some pretty crazy moves IRL!

Nice fights both of you

Beautiful dance of death there in a dogfight!!!

Beautiful Art right there