I’m super excited for this! Are you looking forward to new origins? I’d be down for a “Clark Kent becomes Batman.” story

@Cosmic_Edits22

Ай бұрын

I’m a bit confused. So the Ultimate Spider-Man storyline from early 200s where he dated Kitty Pryde and stuff is the same universe where Miles became Spider-Man and peter died?

@asmodeusguys4472

Ай бұрын

​@@Cosmic_Edits22 yeah

@Guywithacamera13

Ай бұрын

Isn’t that supposed to earth 1 dc comics

@Cosmic_Edits22

Ай бұрын

@@asmodeusguys4472 Alr thx

@the-quiver

Ай бұрын

​@@Guywithacamera13Yup, but that one didn't work out

This has a lot of potential. I’m excited to see what Snyder does

@AdanArif-wq1gb

Ай бұрын

Yep

@corysmith564

Ай бұрын

I don't think so. They tried doing their own "Ultimate Universe," and that result was New 52.

@crazymage5316

Ай бұрын

Completely make it boring and terrible

@chimpo961

Ай бұрын

Which Snyder are you referring to?

@TheStarwarsgeek1998

Ай бұрын

@@chimpo961 comic writer, Scott Snyder

God, i hope so. Ultimate Marvel Universe has some of my favorite runs. The new Spider-Man is absolute fucking fire.

@Qardo

Ай бұрын

Yeah. But Peter Parker died in that universe. So Miles could be Spider-Man. Which to me was kind of stupid. Though, killing Peter off is a better fate. Than what Marvel is doing now. Basically, bullying Peter.

@lg6884

Ай бұрын

@@QardoI think he’s talking about the new ongoing Ultimate Spider-Man where he’s married to MJ, has kids, and Harry is a Green Goblin that’s a hero.

@kerdnerl

Ай бұрын

​@Qardo yeah, not to mention them making Eddie Brock into pedo Brock lol

@JDillander91

Ай бұрын

@@kerdnerlwasn’t he the same age as Peter?

@kerdnerl

Ай бұрын

@@JDillander91 no, Eddie was older and in college when he hit on a 15 year old Gwen

I thought DC's version of the Ultimate Universe was the Earth One imprint

@willsherman4044

Ай бұрын

It was but it got canceled

@anthonyhernandez7799

Ай бұрын

Me too

@EyeOfArgus

Ай бұрын

Thats what I’m sayin

@donnae1899

Ай бұрын

It Should Be Called Maximum DC

@scifiguy9000

Ай бұрын

@@donnae1899 THAT'S COOL!!!!

I pray Bruce gets his happy ending like Peter has in Ultimate at the moment.

This should have been what they did since the beginning instead of rebooting their main continuity the 2nd to 5th times already

@wilkinscoffee7166

Ай бұрын

2nd to 5th times? I thought they rebooted the main universe a bit more then that.

@TyshaggyGaming

Ай бұрын

@@wilkinscoffee7166 Much more probably

@ordeporama

Ай бұрын

They did that in the 60s w Barry Allen ! But then the continuities got too messy, so the tried to reboot the whole brand. They really should have just made an ultimate brand each time

@machbass

Ай бұрын

Yeah but if they started doing that we'd have another issue eventually. They tried to work with what they had but now is probably the best time to tell new stories with new interpretations. If they started doing it every 10 years, people would complain that there are too many universes and it takes away from the main one.

@deadpool3982

Ай бұрын

@@wilkinscoffee7166don’t think much more to be honest, a lot of the various crises just retconned things in the existing universe or altered/restored the multiverse rather than fully rebooting the main one

For the uninitiated all star (2000’s) and Earth one (2010’s) was DC’s first 2 tries at an “ultimate” esque imprint that both failed idk why Dan is saying it would be the first here

@bofawhatsbofa4593

Ай бұрын

They failed because of dc purist. They are the most dog shit toxic group out there. They want the same status quo and bitch to high heaven when something new is done. And then they wonder why comic sales stagnate or manga out sales them

I’ve actually been hearing from various podcast, I’m in Scott’s writing class, and he’s discussed in some of those and in some interviews, that he has a lot of big superhero stuff coming, well in his words “big muscles” and action.

@willsherman4044

12 күн бұрын

Scott synder has a writing class? That’s so cool

...isn't it like the 5th ultimate universe attempt? Still excited tho

@zahir1014

Ай бұрын

5th attempt now I know earth one was an attempt what were the other attempts?

@antonhanna2423

Ай бұрын

​@@zahir1014 I was gonna say Black Label, but then again that's just DC's attempt at the Marvel Max Imprint.

@Lyres-Liar-In-The-Lair

Ай бұрын

@@zahir1014 im mostly being hyperbolic, but I have heard of a few (some say 500 was one but I don't have an opinion on that)

@martialedits4335

Ай бұрын

​​@@antonhanna2423And Marvel MAX was Marvels attempt at DCs vertigo imprint. Its like poetry it rhymes.

@antonhanna2423

Ай бұрын

@@martialedits4335 Holy shit, it's just one big circle. All these squares make a circle. And just like that, I ruined a TeamFourStar reference. It is what it is.😅

If this is in fact, true than I really hope this turns out better than the actual Marvel Comics Ultimate Universe in the early 2000's since it gave us some of the most bizarre and down right disturbing takes on classic characters that, for the most part, tried to modernise a lot of heroes in the wrong way, except for Ultimate Spiderman since that was actually good

@vicshephard9231

Ай бұрын

I wouldn't call what they did with Wanda and Pietro modernized. People should be banned from comics for that.

The endless cycle of have multiple universes, make new characters in them, now people want brand cohesion, merge them, now universes are contrived

Haven’t they tried that like eight times already? My personal favorite was the Earth One universe. The stories and changes where interesting

@stevensteviepryde5888

Ай бұрын

I don't even know why they need one. Makes sense for Marvel because their mainline continuity has been the same throughout so the Ultimate would be new takes. DC reboots their universe every few decades, so I don't see the point...

I really the idea of an ultimate universe in dc as it allows writers to play around abit more while simultaneously having the regular universe with ideally a timeline and continuity that most people are happy with

This is something DC has needed for a while. Ether an ideas testing ground or somewhere with consistent narrative storytelling. Love or hate the Marvel Ultimate universe, some of the storytelling (specifically all the ultimate spiderman titles) was tightly knit and well written.

I kinda doubt it because they wouldn’t need an Ultimate universe. Marvel’s Ultimate universe was created to be a place people can jump into without needing knowledge the writer trusts you would have. The only multiverse reset Marvel had was Secret Wars (2015), and DC is known too well about their’s. I’m not saying they won’t do it or it wouldn’t be cool. I just doubt it, but it would be pretty cool.

@user-lp8im7ow8s

Ай бұрын

Way more, Marvel has way more reboots

Earth One was their ultimate universe before they dropped the ball in DC fashion

I think this is cool idea ,beacose we might get interesting versions of DC characters as it was in Ultimate Universe with Maker and Miles Morales.

Dc technically already has an ultimate universe, the earth one comics. It's not as expansive as the ultimate universe was. But it had the same goal of telling a story of an alternate version of the dc story while the main comic series was still running

This is essentially the fifth time.

That’s cool. I always felt like DC’s New52 should have been an alternate universe similar to Marvel’s Ultimate Universe rather than rebooting the universe as a whole

Imagine the title Ultimate Batman that sounds kinda cool

If I remember correctly the creator of the White Knight series likes to view that universe as a kind of "Ultimate" universe. Even if he's only covered Batman (+ beyond, Harley, freeze) he's also on track to write a Superman comic so cool to see what he's got cooking. Even if it's not coming for a while.

One of the employees at my local comic book Store was gossiping with me and another regular about this until another employee was like "If it wasn't announced to everyone don't talk about it" so I think that's proof enough for me

The new 52 felt like the ultimate universe tbh

Honestly, I have been wanting DC to create an “ultimate” type universe for awhile. It would be a fun way to tell stories with a fresh start and a new perspective. Here’s hoping that if the Absolute World is true and that we get interesting stories which will also encourage the writers to make more solid, and well written, changes to the main DC universe.

Truly not surprised. But. I’m really digging the art style.

Honestly, im shocked they haven't done this sooner, its one of the best ideas Marvel ever had, and its not like they could copyright the idea of running two universes.

This reminds me of what they apparently tried doings years back with *All Star* Superman and Batman

I always thought New 52 was DC's Ultimate Universe? Lol

I remember someone saying years ago that the All-Star label of comics were meant to be DC's answer to the Ultimate comics. Which I always found to be strange, and I'm actually not sure that's true. I have mixed feelings about this, but it seems like people are excited, so that's nice.

I feel like thats what the DCEU was

I feel like the name would confuse readers as dc also produces “absolute editions” of legacy titles

DC already had an ultimate universe. The "Earth One" graphic novels were that.

Finally, we need a new universe where it’s not impossible to track what comic book over laps with another or what’s cannon or not

I just hope the changes to the rumored universe isn't just: "Batman and Superman are assholes because that's realistic!" bullshit like the ultimate universe.

PLEASE FOR THE LOVE OF EVERYTHING GIVE US MORE STATIC SHOCK DC

While I'm not sure how an 'Ultimate Superman' would work, I do see an 'Ultimate Wonder Woman' work where Themyscara works as an isekai type of situation, a Batman where he's more ninja like while a detective and an 'Ultimate Flash' where it's an high school version of the character.

Let’s just hope nobody cannibalizes each other and there’s no weird incest subplots…

"I'm gonna completely ignore the fact that you just said the word bogus" - A Bald Guy

I been saying since the new 52 started in 2011 it could’ve had so much more potential if they kept it as a alternate world away from the main continuity

So who’s gonna be made in to a cannibal?

@HELLO_KORO

Ай бұрын

Most likely wonder Woman or Aquaman, they always turn savage in elseworlds

I love this idea but my wallet doesnt

It would be nice to get Terry as Batman Beyond in a more prominent verse

I am sorry was the only one who read "superman preventing the spetember 11th 2001 terrorist attack" on the fan fic page

Just as long as there's no cannibalism like the Marvel ultimate universe had for some reason

Yes!!!! I've been saying this for years! Hopefully, they will keep it simple, stand alone, not cancel it, and most importantly, write good stories. We dont want another earth 1

One of the main things that drew people to Ultimate Marvel was that they initially had permadeath for characters, which added more weight to death there. But when they went overkill with the garbage arc that was Ultimatum and later ditched that rule altogether by reviving Ultimate Peter and having him still around so I dunno. DC teased the potential of permadeath with the finale of Blackest Night....only to immediately revert that one story later in Brightest Day. I wonder if they actually would commit to that this time around with this side universe.

@daraghokane4236

Ай бұрын

Have a goffy Silver age type world but when people die they stay dead. Immortal characters Like Vandale Savage will be cool here as there power matters.

Maybe this universe will give us an unbutchered Jon kent and some new super sons that doesn't fell completely out of place

Hopefully, this one doesn't completely fly off the handle. Like the original ultimate universe did with its attempt to make things different.

it'd be cool tho, for one we have wally as the flash rn, and honestly i think all flash fans know barry's gonna get it back eventually, but imagine he gets it in the "absolute" universe while wally keeps the mantle in the primary universe

Brought The Maker over too.

Which is confusing. As they release absolute editions. So, absolute might be a working title.

I’m so excited. This has the potential be absolute fire

Man i was kinda hyped till u said zach snyder😂

All star Superman and all star Batman back in the day. Was supposed to be the beginning of a DC version of ultimate universe.

Another note kind of wish Superman had his reborn costume and Batman his new 52 one. The only character who still has a new costume is WW

Didn’t they try this already with the different Earths?

HELL YES PLEASE I NEED THIS

I just hope this has a Stonger and better Justice League.

My thinking about this "Why don't refurbish Earth 1 DC instead?" And "Is Scott Snyder getting hard to find an original idea for a different side universe?"

DC technically has their own version of the ultimate universe, It was called Earth One. this universe had self-contained realistic retellings of their heroes origin stories, these retelling ranged from being just a modernized retelling for Wonder Woman reacting to the modern world in (her graphic novel came out in 2016) to a space odyssey of Green Lantern Hal Jordan being in space for over 10 years and finding the ring next to its deceased owner and learning that the Manhunters had wiped the Green Lantern Corp generations ago. Now unfortunately the last Volume to come out was 3 years ago and while they were planning to make a series for the Flash and Aquaman they where cancelled with the whole series being abandoned shortly after with the last one to get published being Batman Earth one Vol.3 All together their are 13 volumes with the series covered being Superman, Batman, Wonder Woman, Green Lantern, and the Teen Titans. If any of this intrigues you Comicstorian has covered some of the volumes on their Channel

From the rumours I’ve heard it sounds pretty cool

So the All-Star line but with intention behind it

Basically, a synder verse, ba-dum-tss 😅

My brian can not process that

Honestly very excited for this

Can’t wait to see WW flash her chest at a rampaging MM to distract him, the wonder twins having relations while their bio dad watches, deathstroke switches bodies with jaime reyes and hits on a underage girl, and it all ends with most of the characters dying in horrific, visceral ways before the universe ends.

Would it even work the same, considering the original point of Ultimates was to tell more realistic/modern retellings of characters? Like, comics for a while have just been modernized by default…..tho maybe Marvel has done it alot heavier than DC

I wish they did more with the earth one universe

They technically already had this with eart 2

So let's see, we already got, All-Star DC and Earth One, unless they actually stick with this then its another ultimate type universe that wont survive for long.

I've been saying they need to do this for years! The issue with DC is it's status quo. This would allow for a universe going towards the status quo with another going away. Just don't f*** it up like the Marvel Ultimate Universe

superman and wonder woman better be a couple again and they better have a kid if they're going back to new 52ish universe

Can't wait!If the rumors are true.

If this is all real, I don't think Scott Snyder "got the idea / stole the idea" from a fan wiki. It might use the name name, but hell, he might have never heard about it before anyway. It's like the current new Ultimate Universe line that started in Ultimate Invasion, the Earth designation is Earth-6160 but there was already a fanmade Earth-6160 project online a few years before Ultimate Invasion released. I doubt Jonathan Hickman knew about the 6160 fan project anyway. It's just pure coincidence.

Snyder also started The Dark Universe after dark Knights metal. Well see if this works

Didn’t they already have that with Earth one?

Yo absolute is finna be so goooood! Dan can u let me know where i can get it when it comes out?

Isn't that kinda like what they did with the Earth one stories?

I hope that if red hood is in it they don't ruin him like they did

I feel like they tried this with future state and then that didn't happen....

Earth 1 had potential, i want to see where this goes.

Earth one and all star were already DC 's ultimate universes.

This isn't the first time they did this tho, anyone remember All Star?

I hope this happens, just because I want to see flash and green lantern in a newer form.

I thought that what the Earth One line was

maybe, just MAYBE they will actually do something with tim drake

Haven't they done it already with the Earth-1 series? 🤔

the idea of an "ultimate DC" feels kinda redundant considering that DC tends to reboot things around every 10 or so years. the original point of ultimate marvel was to be a "reboot" of marvel without alienating fans of the original continuity.

inb4 it becomes an excuse for either Sups or Bats to become an evil fascist and the mainline universe has to deal with them somehow

I miss elseworlds and shadow of the bat....

Oh that’s ni…. Wait… WHAT?!?!?! 😱😨🤯

we shall see sir.

I miss Alfred

This show fire

Would be cool if instead of just another universe it's another multiverse. They haven't touched the Omniverse since Dark Crisis. And that multiverse was dead. They haven't really touched it since then.

How about we get a Batman that actually acts like a human being with common decency and doesn’t have a contingency for if the mailman gets brainwashed! Or how about a Superman that doesn’t get exposed to kryptonite and/or controlled every Tuesday and twice on weekends. I hope this hypothetical alternate continuity can at least try fixing some of the nonsense it feels like DC’s been doing, especially with Batman if they want to keep milking him.

They already did this with Earth One

Weren’t they trying to do it with Superman Batman and wonder woman earth one???

Just have to f up something good like always