*Correction:* The high MMR data has been confirmed to be the top 5% players of EACH Killer, not just in general.

@inag1080

Жыл бұрын

bruh scam bot on your own comment lmfao

@vit4mint685

Жыл бұрын

is it top 5% of players or top 5 % of mmrs... Thats a big difference given the mmr cap.

@acemack2

Жыл бұрын

@Phillip It's just Otz's third account congratulating himself for watching his own video wdym

@inag1080

Жыл бұрын

@@acemack2 ah that explains everything,thx m8!

@CamiloCerdaParra

Жыл бұрын

That just confirms my theory about OnePumpWillie single handedly elevating Sadako's kill rate to the top

I think something with Dredge that is underrated is how strong nightfall is against people playing on TVs. If you're playing during the (real life) daytime, there's every chance the glare makes your screen fully black.

@hakase5714

Жыл бұрын

ive never seen something more relatable tbh

@LiterallyPaulGeorge

Жыл бұрын

Ong I can relate cuz I instantly start taking loops wide and running into everything since I can’t see

@alexandervelez9507

Жыл бұрын

this.

@meiyami93

Жыл бұрын

This comment I so unrated 😭. I play in a 55' tv but is extremely difficult for mi to see anything during daytime. Besides, ppl who wear glasses are completely screwed when facing against dredges 🥲

@j-mc2144

Жыл бұрын

This.

"merciless storm is an absolute noob stomper" The frequency with which I'm on a gen with someone and it begins and the gen instantly blows up because they miss one, is honestly staggering.

@OfficialMaxXimusK

Жыл бұрын

Lol at this point if I have a toolbox I don't use it until about 70 percent to counter merciless storm and tinkerer, doubly so if I have teammates who might blow it 😂

One thing I think you've missed: Pinhead has quite a few mechanics that REALLY punish Survivors, especially solo queue and console Survivors, who don't know how he works. Between Survivors getting interrupted by passive chains and console Survivors dropping/vaulting pallets instead of removing chains, a lot of Pinhead matches go haywire because Survivors straight up don't know how he works or his mechanics are unnecessarily unintuitive.

@PatchyE

Жыл бұрын

yeah sadako has a similar story. Not just with the TV and tape, even the sound cue of her demanifestation is something a lot of people don't know. Likewise with legion where people don't know to separate, lead him away from other survivors and mend to 99% if he is still in his power. You would be surprised how low mmr players don't do the most obvious things, like when I first started playing Artist the survivors don't even know to repel bird right away.. a lot of them just run around with the birds on them... They probably don't know I can see them if they don't start repelling.

@equalopportunity2048

Жыл бұрын

This isn't getting enough attention. Pinhead is much harder to vs as survivor on console.

@navneelhunt7902

Жыл бұрын

Always pulling my hair out cause I’m solo q and my teammates have no idea when to do the box and if I go do it usually someone else is going to the cube as well overall just wasting so much time

@AirLight1646

Жыл бұрын

That’s another reason why you should change your controls on console, I really wish they’d just change the default console controls

@thedoomslayer5863

Жыл бұрын

@@AirLight1646 I hate how the right bumper is connected to SO MANY DAMN THINGS. like it's to heal, to do gens, to drop pallets, to vault That one button is practically 90% of your interactions right there

Interesting to see these statistics. The developers have also noted on Twitter that they well understand that they can't just look at the flat percentages, which is very promising!

@lexdgamer8488

Жыл бұрын

@CDP so true and i thinks they need to buff nurse :)

@-cosmicgoat-4589

Жыл бұрын

@@lexdgamer8488 did this mf say they need to buff nurse?

@MistarZtv

Жыл бұрын

@CDP yeah since almo got canceled and went on hiatus they've been way more lenient with not tunneling on their data and actually listen to feedback instead of just looking at data. 😂

@Villey

Жыл бұрын

@@-cosmicgoat-4589 it’s a running meme in the community

@-cosmicgoat-4589

Жыл бұрын

@@Villey oh thank god

Big ups to the devs for letting us finally see these stats

@Minumer

Жыл бұрын

Huh? They post pickrates and killrates every so often, this isn't the first time...

@boostformylife

Жыл бұрын

@@Minumer But isnt it the first time, they doing it with everything, like all DBD Players? Sorry if not, but i think they never did it like that

@MACnCHEESE110

Жыл бұрын

Need map win rates

@SAVAGENEDVED

Жыл бұрын

Seriously this is such a small piece of the picture. I don't know how they can properly balance without having a more complete set of data points for analysis.

@maxmustermann-zx9yq

Жыл бұрын

@@Minumer first time they released the data for the top 5% of mmr players instead of the whole data base which was useless data (nurse lowest kill rate, lmao)

About Sadako, a few days ago I played with a group of survivors, who weren't the best (me neither but I know the basics of the game), and we went against a Sadako and when we worked on a gen, they suddenly left it to turn off the tv every time they had the chance, because they didn't understand how their power worked and they were scared

@kevinbissinger

Жыл бұрын

She can teleport across the map to the tv, right?

@IV0elDrJackal

Жыл бұрын

@@kevinbissinger yes, and the condemn thing but it's pretty weak, if you ignore that basically don't do anything most of the time

@TheSteeltec

Жыл бұрын

Yeah I played a game with my mate and one of the people in the game clearly hadn't gone against Sadako before, they took a tape out and just held it until they got condemned and got mori'd newer or below average players often get bodied by Sadako just because they don't know how she works.

@ninjafri3nd_841

Жыл бұрын

@@TheSteeltec I was like that in my first game. It was one of my first games overall and I had no idea what she did. I only realized what was happening when it was to late

@TheSteeltec

Жыл бұрын

@@ninjafri3nd_841 yeah, sadako is probably one of the killers that punishes you the most if you don't understand them.

Nah, Wesker’s got such a high kill rate bc people see daddy rolling up with his shades looking fine af and they throw themselves at him. Makes perfect sense!

@shizzlescup2348

Жыл бұрын

😭😭

@xXFluttersXx

Жыл бұрын

Okay but fr when me and my friend see wesker it's tradition to drop everything and tell him we love him LOL

@TrulyGoatedYT

Жыл бұрын

🤨

@morbid-imagery

Жыл бұрын

I literally had two Fengs throw themselves at me on my third match as Wesker, the day he was released, so, can confirm. We were at Haddonfield and they escorted me to an upstairs bedroom. You know, with the bed...

@heart_goes_doki_doki

Жыл бұрын

lol this logic should apply to Trickster then, though, as a Trickster player, i can confirm that has happened. sometimes they hide in lockers right in front of me to get that pov moment 😭

Killers like Sadako could simply be that since very few people play her, the people who do play her are incredibly good

@taragnor

Жыл бұрын

Yeah the licensed killers in general tend to be high up on the list. I think this is the case because they tend to weed out the newbies. It's why you see Freddy, Sadako, Pinhead, etc. so high on the list. Demogorgon is the only weird one, honestly I have no idea why his winrate is so low.

@deathbringer9893

Жыл бұрын

@@taragnor demo isnt really that good once you counter play then again im still surprised as sad is still high up

@buhmoment954

Жыл бұрын

@@deathbringer9893 also most demos let you go cuz funny

@sam7259

Жыл бұрын

@@buhmoment954 demo is a garbo, predictable killer at higher MMR.

@deathbringer9893

Жыл бұрын

@@sam7259 also dont cleanse portals and he loses part of his power when those gens get done

I think it's important to note that most of the killers with higher killrates are ones who have more complicated mechanics. I imagine survivors who are just starting out would die a lot to these killers before understanding them. Compared to killers like huntress and nurse whose powers are very simple. They don't have any tiers or power ups.

@golemofwill4728

Жыл бұрын

Agreed. Being good in chase means nothing across all ranks when you can force someone to learn a new mechanic. Of course once learned, they fall to the bottom but against a majority of players, they will dominate. Pinhead being king doesn't surprise me because the box forces someone to be a team player and that is hard for a lot of low rank players.

@tiga8600

Жыл бұрын

I say the most hated killer for me to go against being new to dbd is pig casue every time for some reason I am the first one found and can now about guess where the ambush is coming from and dredge is a pain in the ass casue my TV ain't good so when it goes to night fall I'm over here squinting like where the fuck am I going

@xSinfulGodx

Жыл бұрын

I'm pretty sure alot of nurse games are dc and they said they don't count dc games.

@paulodelima5705

Жыл бұрын

These killers have map pressure or mobility. It helps to patrol gens.

@gabriellef

Жыл бұрын

Maybe pinhead n sadako, but I don’t think that wesker, Freddy, pig.. they don’t rlly have high skill cap.

I think Sadako and Freddy are so high at lower MMRs in part because they give survivors options to waste time/actively make the game harder for themselves by spending increasing amounts of time waking each other up, or turning off tvs and then getting themselves killed or having to trek across the map to remove condemned. Plague also has elements of this where cleansing too much can hand the killer a huge advantage, or oblivious survivors giving Myers free stalk

@NeocrimsonX

Жыл бұрын

Tier 1 Myers is also quite funny in low mmr

@enbyrogue3740

Жыл бұрын

As someone who has played Sadako a lot at lower MMRs (I just started playing again recently so I was reset from red ranks to bottom rank), no new players even interact with the TVs. Lower MMR players just hardly ever do gens, they waste a lot of time wandering aimlessly. I have had one person who kept a tape on them all game and I got an easy mori out of it because their Condemned skyrocketed

@mitragolab8905

Жыл бұрын

I had so many solo queue games against Freddy where my teammates had it as a mission to get woken up instead of getting me off the hook or God forbid touch the gens...I guess it's very common

@dandude5407

Жыл бұрын

I think all the unexpected killers are just high bc I personally play ghostface and freddy and use them very different to how you'd expect I dominate most of my games bc I don't stalk w ghostface I go stealth in loops and use dream pallets with freddy very aggressively and my builds for most killers are (Enduring,Corrupt intervention, Spirit fury and stbfl) so survivors are instantly put under pressure with pallets not being safe. Looping skill obviously develops with this build and play style so I can pick up other killers and still win with no perks needed

@konstanZX2

Жыл бұрын

I played on almost all the levels coming from the lowest to iri 4 xd and sadako is a pain to play against, like not even the condemn mechanic I'm mostly concerned about not being able to see her when she comes, comes out of nowhere literally, it's easier for me to see the wraith than her... Maybe because she is small, white and dissapears reapears 24/7. Literally kills me everytime. Same with some ghostfaces, for some reason I had a game against a ghostface where he was stealth mode and look straight into him and he didn't get revealed, had no addons of making it harder to reveal so Idk may be cheats but also could be cause of the looking at ghostface bad mechanic that hasn't been fixed since a lot of time... Also I don't think I'm very bad at looping, and to point out I only play soloQ.

I'm pretty sure that Sadako's kill rate is so high because of her "free" Mori. Against newer players who don't know enough about Sadako to counter her, she doesn't even have to hook. She can chase into/away from TVs, curse survivors, and then let the clock tick down for them, no hooks required. My first match as Sadako, after a 1-2 month hiatus from the game, ended in a 4k with only one or two hooks.

@Purrfect_Werecat

Жыл бұрын

idk i can never even give a sadako her mori they don't even seem to realize or care when it's an option

One of my theories for Freddy is his shirt addons help a lot with his kill rate, since newer survivors are more likely to miss skillchecks 4% extra regression if you have just 1 of his shirt addons is insane

@budi5917

Жыл бұрын

overcharge+ double dress = 13%

@plochma

Жыл бұрын

I feel like Freddy is so high because of what someone else said, rarity, not many Freddy players. But from my own exp, Freddy players tend to tunnel a lot guaranteeing kills. At least 8/10 Freddy games I get, they tunnel hard. Just an observation

@reaper_exd7498

Жыл бұрын

Freddy is OP if you’re in the dream state. He literally is able to outrun you even if you have a blight rush or pumpkin speed boost. A killer who can easily just out speed you, even with add-one, is always gonna be at the top.

@thedoomslayer5863

Жыл бұрын

@@reaper_exd7498 freddy has no speed power, if he's outrunning u it's bc he's teleporting ahead of you to a gen and cutting u off or u ran into a snare so u are slower

@karimsonsafehold9233

Жыл бұрын

@@reaper_exd7498 That sounds like a generator teleport. So don't run towards gens. He has a very long cooldown, so nothing like onryo or dredge.

I would like to add that Billy on console is the hardest killer to play, not only because of the nerfs that destroy a lot of him, but because it is required to have a really high sense on console and the initial turn is extremely complicated to manouver and micro adjustments are really difficult to do in such a little time

@yourallygod8261

Жыл бұрын

BOT MEANIE ABOVE unless he got reported to oblivion :)

@undertaker2766

Жыл бұрын

@@yourallygod8261 some nolife dude trying to scam kids

@Nathan-xt6mp

Жыл бұрын

I play on PC and when I use billy I use a controller because he’s easier to control on it…

@assetaden6662

Жыл бұрын

@@Nathan-xt6mp dont forget that consoles are laggy, always fps limited and have a great input lag. Also the monitor (in this case TV) is located far away from you, and you need more time to make decisions.

@jiggyman14

Жыл бұрын

I actually find Billy easier with controller as well.

I think the thing with Wesker is so many people are used to hiding nearby when the killer is about to hook someone and if Wesker is using his own perks you can't do that cause he sees your aura while he's carrying another survivor. A lot of people aren't used to this because it goes against the altruistic playstyle most people are used to.

@imawetad8870

Жыл бұрын

your aura is hidden when in lockers

@stevencavanagh7990

Жыл бұрын

altruism kills

@stevencavanagh7990

Жыл бұрын

@@imawetad8870 Iron maiden

@emperornero1932

Жыл бұрын

DON'T TELL MY SECRET But yeah the fact you can close the distance with his power and his perk awakened awareness pairs better than peanut butter and chocolate

@justfloppers8434

Жыл бұрын

Altruistic gameplay is exactly how you beat even the best survivors. Some groups are so so good but yet saving there friends get there’s whole team killed Edit: I know it’s in “poor taste” but tunneling someone usually the rest of team stops all gens to come body block and try to save there friend. I personally abuse this fact and I win games

8:23 I think one thing to consider is that: characters like Pinhead, Sadako, and Wesker (all at the top) is basically NOBODY'S FIRST killer. By the time a player buys the DLC for one of these characters, they probably already have 70 hours minimum. In fact, all of the top 5 characters in 'All MMR' are all LICENSED characters: people may only invest real money after they've got some decent killer experience.

@barnebyoconnell8176

Жыл бұрын

bro I've got 9 hours and bought Sadako tonight because Ghost Waifo go wooo

@threecheslch7990

Жыл бұрын

I disagree. I started a month or so ago on PC and pinhead was my #1 from then till now. I see now why he might have been so easy to play, but I think that saying people only buy DLC after they've played a lot is wrong. A lot of people might start playing because they saw someone they recognize and want to play them. Such as my case.

@axtridxx

9 ай бұрын

HARD disagree. I'd consider myself a low MMR person, and the majority of killers/survivors I see are paid. Not only that, but quite a lot of low hour people buy cosmetics. Just because you don't play the game religiously doesn't mean you don't wanna buy the fun characters.

@averyhaferman3474

Ай бұрын

I started when nemesis was the newest killer. I bought him very early on. Maybe only a few matches as doctor then decided to play nemesis a lot

Honestly I think part of Freddy and Sadako’s kill rates are to their rarity. Even though they’ve been out for a while, it’s common to go weeks or even moths to play against one. It’s hard to learn counterplay

@munki1228

Жыл бұрын

echo'd this, I feel like when I do see freddy or sadako, I just kinda try my best to win and then just forget about them after the match, then I dont see them again for what feels like forever, so I forget everything I learned in the previous match lol

@alexwarren9730

Жыл бұрын

Ngl you seem new if you “forget” how to play against those killers. They’re just basic m1 killers and all you have to do is listen to know where they are. It’s not like they have a power that could destroy you in chase lol.

@munki1228

Жыл бұрын

@@alexwarren9730 nah but as someone who just barely plays, the teleporting is tough to deal with, especially if ur not good at looping like myself; combo that with solo Q and nobody on comms and it’s even more difficult

@boostedsurvivorandkilleron5407

Жыл бұрын

This, i forgot how to hag because i havent seen one in so long

@alexwarren9730

Жыл бұрын

@@munki1228 Yes so that's why their kill rates are still decent because there are so many new players, even at the top mmr there are still people with 200-300 hours who are very inexperienced at looping and being aware of their surroundings. It's basically like the old red rank system where experienced killers can win with any killer quite easily as the mmr system is very flawed.

I honestly didn’t expect sadakos or pin heads kill rate to be so high.. and is this the 3rd otz video in 24 hours? Even if it’s not this is still wonderful, thank you for the upload Otz! 💙

@Takano_Rin

Жыл бұрын

pinhead 6 month ago was on a top.

@draumaa

Жыл бұрын

@@Takano_Rin oh really? I never noticed! Thank you for telling me, I never looked at that actually.

@samuelrobert912

Жыл бұрын

I was thinking of this too… We should thank him more often, because he is giving us so good content. Love u Otz ❤

@VSPhotfries

Жыл бұрын

Us Sadako Simps, all ten of us that are left playing, are a persistent bunch. When everyone else stopped cueing up as her, we kept going and perfected our tactics.

@allenthomas5870

Жыл бұрын

Agreed thank you otzzzzz!

I would like to see Trapper be able to reload traps in lockers rather than have to run around, would allow him to set up a lot faster and be more relevant. Also, make the brown addon where he doesn't set off his own traps should be base.

@EdwinCristobal

Жыл бұрын

great idea, the only problem would be that how would that work? I guess putting a limit to how many traps he can grab from a locker, and setting a cap limit on how many can be reloaded.. unlike huntress and trickster that have unlimited times reload

@g80gzt

Жыл бұрын

I'd see a modern rework just have him throw live beartraps on the ground instead of doing an entire animation. Just frisbee it onto the target spot, trap set, magic. Also, make the color-change addons be camo, to make it slightly transparent maybe, just blend in with whatever's around.

@jx0152

Жыл бұрын

I wonder if you could make it so that trapper could toss traps a distance away and only needs to ever go there to rearm them.

@Budd631

Жыл бұрын

Just give him 5-6 traps in his hand to start and make the brown add-on base. That’s it. He will still be trash but at least better

@twinzzlers

Жыл бұрын

Or he can just start the trial with all of his traps, like every other trap killer in the game.

I think the thing with Freddy in All MMRs is that new and unaware players are very very quick to go wake up instead of only doing it when needed or convenient. I remember when I first started I would spend ages running the entire map to the clock, and I have since learned that immediately waking up is not always mandatory. However, new players and below average players may not have learned this.

@weskerrun4647

Жыл бұрын

Also, speaking from experience, fakeout teleports will scare them off like 75% of the time. I would walk to a gen, fake the tele, and there would either be a gen explosion as they got spooked immediately and it happened during a skill check, or I’d see the figure of a survivor running away. Led to some very easy slowdown and hits.

I think a big reason you see Demo low at lower MMRS is because he's no longer available. Newer players can't pick him up so it's a matter of "volume of players"

@MythicTF2

Жыл бұрын

Yeah, and I feel like the people that tend to play demo are generally more "friendly" and memey. or they're running his impossible to cleanse devour build.

@SentenceToDESU

Жыл бұрын

But shouldn't it work in other way? If Demo is no longer available then its only available for players who already know how to play as him and their level of skill should rise on average. And also there more and more new players who don't know what is this killer and how to play against him (because there is no description for him in the game)

@fart63

Жыл бұрын

That’s kind of the opposite of what should be true. The few people that still have demo should all be veterans. They should be good

@n.d.1259

Жыл бұрын

I'm confused. You aren't talking about kill-rates but rather general pick-rate at all MMRS, right? If so, I think @Mythic here got the wrong idea. Just want to clear this up, don't want beef, tyvm have a nice day.

@Veristelle-

Жыл бұрын

@@SentenceToDESU Except it means there isn't noob stomping to pad the kill rate percentage. Since only veterans have him, he only faces veterans, which are likely to know how to easily outplay him. No one used to facing him will get hit by 8m shred, it's telegraphed and easy to sidestep while not saving time off pallet breaks unless you have barbs. Between that, and his teleport being weak without his addons to help it, means he is easy to drop to the bottom of kill rate. Being only in veteran player matches would be a disadvantage when it's a killer easy to counter with such a low skill ceiling.

In my experience in SoloQ, if Disconnects counted as kills, even the Nurse would have a 70% kill rate. :/

@partycakeboy92

Жыл бұрын

This is in Sept though not when the punishment was in

@donyates7300

Жыл бұрын

thats why its only 52%, if you included DCs, nurse is probably at the 75-80% range.

@fortherng3847

Жыл бұрын

yeah if DCs were included everyone would have a much higher kill rate the problem is that we, the players, have the capacity to distinguish between "kill DCs" that happen when someone is downed and they ragequit or people who just quit when they see that the killer is someone they hate and actually accidental DCs that occur in the middle of a long chase or while working on a gen far off in the distance data itself cannot make this distinction, and rather than counting the accidental DCs they don't count any then the question becomes "are kill DCs way higher than accidental DCs or is it the reverse?" and then it should be easy to see updated stats

@donyates7300

Жыл бұрын

@@fortherng3847 doesn't change the fact that all kill rates would be significantly HIGHER if they counted games with DCs.

@helion2018

Жыл бұрын

​@@donyates7300 Bro you are exaggerating a LOT, for the killrates to be so much higher is completely unrealistic, it would be a few percent at most around 5%. I'm sorry but anyone who has SOME feeling for percentages knows that even small changes are fairly significant and such a giant change would be completely unrealistic. Besides, counting the dcs would totally fuck up the statistic simply because there are 4 survivors and just one killer, meaning survivors dc far more often because there are simply more survivors. It would make the killrates seem higher than they actually are + they obviously can't differentiate whether someone dced because of bad internet, because something in rl came up and they had to stop playing or if they just dced out of saltiness, so overall, it would fuck up the statistic completely.

So, just as a new Dredge, I think his high rank is because of how much map awareness he has, how disorienting it is to play against him as a new player, and his perk “Darkness Revealed” is a really good aura reading perk on him, as well as the entire stealth aspect. All on console, he is easy to pick up, can be really good and fun to play, and has a pretty ok perk set up.

@justmob9917

Жыл бұрын

Right? Looking at dredge on this list always felt like he's so high up joy because he's crazy op (he is strong imo don't get me wrong) but because he's so unbelievably fun. I'm someone who didn't even wanna touch killer I didn't like the game flow but dredge came out snf I bought him in a heartbeat and started the killer grind and I never had more fun. Cool design cool lore fun and strong power decent starting perks and the fact he's new probably bumps him up so high. Not to mention how unpredictable dredge can be. A lot of perks work great on him from gen kicking to hex perks to aura reading, his mobility makes all those perks feel extra powerful

@GueroLocz

Жыл бұрын

Ive played the game for about 3 months and in that time i bought the dredge cause he looked pretty cool and i loved the lore and everything about him as a character. I was terrible playing as the other killers (nurse, trapper, etc) and so i was shocked how easy it was to play as the dredge, which is weird cause the guy in the vid said hes difficult to play as lol. His perks at the start are okay but its easy to get kills because teleporting to a locker could easily put you over by the survivors who are doing gens. Plus ive noticed not many survivors actually locking the lockers

Another piece of information I would REALLY like is to see the average hook stages per killer, maybe not as feasible but I think it would be a really nice metric to see how many hook stages each killer gets on average and how much that changes at higher MMRs.

just finished your weekly comp you are doing us a favor !

I figured out why Freddy is so high up, most of the people playing Freddy are playing from space, which makes his hits hit from two jungle-gyms away 🙃 Since it’s hard to adjust to that for survivors, it’s easy picking’s for the dream demon!

@jennywithaglock3916

Жыл бұрын

i laugh at this one, good job. i think it's because bad/new survivors go to their clocks to wake because lullaby scares them

@apkhbmbgamlkbh1531

Жыл бұрын

this is so true feels like every freddy has an atrocious ping and hits way further than he should

If you've played a lot of solo queue you've definitely seen teams get destroyed because not everybody knows how Pinhead's cube works. Like a lot of things in game, it's not that hard to counter if you know what you're doing - but you have to rely on the other three survivors also having that knowledge in a solo match.

@Takkunda

Жыл бұрын

pinhead is easy to play against, I just deligate myself to cube solver, since my looping is above average.

@Zoeila

Жыл бұрын

It's because most solo queue plays would rather hide than be in chase

@Takkunda

Жыл бұрын

@@Zoeila at low mmr lol

@mythos951

Жыл бұрын

Couple this with the fact that removing chains and vaulting pallets are the same button on console… This may not seem huge, but as a pinhead main, you would be surprised how many slow vaults right into me have happened while in loop with a chained survivor.

TOME CHALLENGES are a good thing to point out too! I played Nurse (very poorly) last month JUST because of the like 3-4 Tome Challenges she had in Tome 12. Took me like 8 games to complete them, and never got a 4k.

Wesker is a great killer for beginners. His power is, well, powerful. Also, as you said, he has a built-in slowdown (the survivors have to spray otherwise they’ll be significantly disadvantaged). His add-ons are pretty good, and his ability isn’t too mechanically demanding. His hitboxes can be weird for sure, and his perks aren’t by any means meta, but they’re okay nonetheless.

@DirtyDeedsDoneDirtCheapD4C

Жыл бұрын

I'd say his add-ons are okay but not good entirely, anyways yeah he is really great

@Dwoppin

Жыл бұрын

I've been saying this for so long Wesker is one of the strongest killers in the game. His power alone is just really freakin good, like, really good. Easy to get hits, mobility is nearly unmatched, zoning is amazing, and his infection provides instadowning or slowdown. His terror radius provides somewhat of a built in stealth, kind of like doctor. If you always hear his terror radius, you're never going to know where he's coming from. (But it's not really as oppressive as I'm making it out to be, mainly for new players) Even just the passive benefit of never having to take the time to pick up a survivor is huge when it's happening nearly every time you down a survivor He does everything extremely well, but does nothing better than the obviously op killers like blight, nurse, spirit, artist

@boardglass6050

Жыл бұрын

You forgot to mention that he's one of the best tunneler in the game and basically every wesker tunnel the first person they hit with the uroboros

@eddypartey1075

Жыл бұрын

@@Dwoppin excellent description especially about his power to zoning like it does nurse, blight, demo

@dumblenutz5561

Жыл бұрын

@@boardglass6050 that one's easy to notice if you ever go against one since they are very likely to hard tunnel, i've found

I’ll add one little thing to sadako on why she is so high up, I think that a lot of new players don’t know how her power works, so they’ll end up getting condemned without knowing what it means, I know I did, and me and my whole team died very quickly the first time I faced her

@colossaldonut5190

Жыл бұрын

Also newer survivors are terrible in chases against M1 killers too and don't know how to loop or use pallets effectivel. A killer with no Terror Radius initially and the ability to teleport across the map is surprisingly effective at lower MMRs (which same goes for Freddy).

@karimsonsafehold9233

Жыл бұрын

@@colossaldonut5190 onryo also holds the same number as oni though at 5% mmr

I think wesker has a high pick rate due to a large percentage of the fan base either coming from or being familiar with RE. Weskers perks aren’t god tier but Wesker himself is fun to play even contributing to the fan base by the use of quotes. Everyone sees him as a Chad killer so they use him like such.

19:30 I would hope that the devs are looking into the data more than what we're seeing. They can easily gather data on deviation numbers instead of just overall killrate percent. This will show if its a killer with a stable kill rate, regularly getting 2-3 kills that averages to 60%, or if the killer has a large deviation in kills (regularly getting 1k or 4k still averaging 60%)

I think that the top killers at all mmrs are also there because of their confusing for new players powers. Like my first match against pinhead when I was new we got stomped because nobody knew how to stop a chain hunt. This kind of thing is present with the other top killers, sadako, spirit, plague etc.

@cody2056

Жыл бұрын

This is what I was thinking as well. I think Otz very rarely interacts with the worst survivors in the game, they aren't the type to show up to his stream or watch his videos. They aren't going to know not to grab Sadako's tapes, or not cleanse against plague when you are barely infected, or whether Spirit is phasing or just standing still.

Otz on a absolute uploading streak! Love it!

16:32 Sadako is high up because she's got great map pressure on top of being stealthy. In my experience, big maps are not an issue for her, especially with specific add-ons and how many survivors don't actually bother with T.V.s.

@XxDarkXxXSasuxX

Жыл бұрын

Sadako is trash at higher mmr if you play her like a normal m1 killer. She's only strong if you abuse her condemn which requires a pretty significant change in play. Otz is right about lower tiers where maybe merciless storm can get more value. Survivors don't bother with TVs because it is easier to win by gen rushing than respecting her power, which again only really comes into play if you are playing her a certain way.

@cursey7304

Жыл бұрын

@@XxDarkXxXSasuxX ye exactly, thats how she get her kill rate

@lynxcomplex3099

Жыл бұрын

@@XxDarkXxXSasuxX Depends how you play her i guess. Survs when i played her never bothered with TVs. which meant if i read right it was a free gauge increase and catch up if needed. On top of allows you to traverse the map at really great speeds if you get used to all the timings and where the TVs were on the map to where the survs go/gen locales. Ultimately she's not amazing, especially if you take long chases without any way to use your powers. but i dont think she's as low as people think. Since she has a lot of ways to really mess with players when utilised. which i doubt explains how high of a killrate she has across all MMRs and even in the top 5% (even I thought she would've been lower) but i think it helps.

@ptsmknbatgirl

Жыл бұрын

@@XxDarkXxXSasuxX she's also much smaller than most killers, and the blinking from the manifestation shenanigans CAN aid you in mind gaming

@XxDarkXxXSasuxX

Жыл бұрын

@@ptsmknbatgirl lol ok, still a killer with literally 0 chase power. Anti-loop potential is mid at best, and still worthless if you are going against high tier survivors With the new health updates hit-run killers like her will be indirectly buffed, so she will be a little more viable, but not by much

One theory I have is the actual character itself can help with pick rate too. Like License characters like Freddy could be picked more by newer players cause he is so well known

Demo main here, the reason Demogorgon is so low is because of friendlies, being friendly as Demo is far easier due to them being rare and cute

@BridgetEndeavor

Жыл бұрын

I can confirm I seem to get noticeably more survivors that are friendly and chill by the end of the match when playing as Demo. Whether this is coincidence or confirmation bias I can't say, but it is something I've taken note of, and I'm far more likely to spare a survivor if they're being cool and fun.

@EdwinCristobal

Жыл бұрын

Some of us are friendly killers, almost everytime, I give hatch to last person, if not then I would be getting 4 kills more often

@krultysenpai

Жыл бұрын

Sadako/Pin Head/Blight noob here. I go for two hooks on each person then just chase for fun, gives stun, etc. Though I only started doing that after getting oppressed as a survivor. Turns out everyone gets more blood points when I play friendly (20,000 on avg)

@thedoomslayer5863

Жыл бұрын

I don't lol if will loop a demo or shred survivors as demo all the same

@karimsonsafehold9233

Жыл бұрын

@@EdwinCristobal I let up to 2-4 escape per match, depending on how good they are or what stunts they pulling.

This gave me an idea for one of those longer videos of yours- playing every killer on controller. Similar to your best builds on every killer video but could be fun/interesting to see how the experience differs on controller. Just a thought :D

@guillemtoda6305

Жыл бұрын

I'm starting to see a lot of scam bots

@snowst0rm_ontwitch861

Жыл бұрын

@@guillemtoda6305 wasap?

As a Sadako main I very much agree with the beginner/mid MMR! I’ve played her since I got the game back in Feb. and use a Freddy as well as Huntress perks to help her out if speed is an issue. Get a pretty high kill score even though I don’t have all characters unlocked. Perks are amazing 🦀

11:17 I think the effect that nightfall makes you see people in a very bright white also helps the dredge on lower levels ALOT. especially on maps wioth loads of grass and great ways to hide in plain sight this is strong for people not used to dbd. also he is fairly new and thus people in the beginning dont know how to act around him yet.

@nataliaborys1554

Жыл бұрын

Yup. I've faced Dredge in a match only a few times at this point, so I'm still not exactly sure how to counter him most effectively.

I think another part of the stealth killers featuring a bit higher than expected might be the spine chill change too.

@TheMissingPluto

Жыл бұрын

100%

@jenericjoe7565

Жыл бұрын

Spine chill got buffed for spotting stealth killers I thought? I thought they just removed the vault speed on it

@JoshuaSchonfeld

Жыл бұрын

@@jenericjoe7565 You’re right. Spine Chill’s information aspect was buffed. So stealth killers should be performing worse the more SC users there are. But people missed that the devs reversed course on the perk changes.

@karimsonsafehold9233

Жыл бұрын

​@@JoshuaSchonfeld People stopped using it as part of their vault speed build, which helped a lot. The wiki says the icon lights up if a killer is within 36m even if they are undetectable. But knowing when I am being stalked or ghost faced, is very good for stopping the instant downs. Without it, I can't easily see them as I don't know which direction they are coming from.

@livingdeadbro

Жыл бұрын

@@jenericjoe7565 it now only goes off if the killer has a direct line of sight on you and is within 36 meters, before it was just if they looked in your direction in that radius so you would tend to find out if a stealth killer was coming long before they actually found you or started stalking you. it's feature of visually telling you how far in the killers terror radius you are also won't work if there's no terror radius.

I would like to see the entire distributions per killer. That could show us whether the killers have a stable kill number or are either very low or very high.

@alexwarren9730

Жыл бұрын

How can they show this when mmr doesn’t mean anything? I’m guessing you mean against the top players because everyone knows you can win with any killer very easily against a weak team

@MIbra96

Жыл бұрын

@@alexwarren9730 What I mean is this: The kill rate number they are showing right now is the percentage of survivors killed each trial on average, i.e. 50% = 2 kills per trial on average. Otz said that many killers being at 60% is not a good thing in and of itself because a killer could be either very bad (low number of survivors killed) or very good (high number of survivors killed) and thus get a 60% because they calculate the average. That is why I wanted to see the entire distribution instead of just the average to see whether the kill number is stable around the mean or oscillates between the extremes. They could for example just throw the raw numbers into a histogram and show us that.

Im surprised about doc, I never had much issue with understanding what he was about nor using his kit so seeing him on the low end is definitely surprising especially since if you have lethal pursuer and all 4 survs spawn together one static blast can set you up for the whole game as now everyone has permanent Madness 1, couple that with his discipline tree of addons I believe it was making it so doc can see hallucinations all the time and it becomes very difficult for players who aren't used to countering doc.

@thenecron9502

Жыл бұрын

as someone whos watched some low mmr games I can tell you what it is that very new killer players overuse his power in chase. I've seen docs chase while m2 spamming even beyond t3 and whenever there isnt a risk of vault/action. Often they waste minutes especially if theyre the kind of new player that commits to one chase forever so even if the overcharge + awareness value comes into play they just never get downs.

@The-Doctor6969

Жыл бұрын

@@thenecron9502 it's actually insane. Killer got a 2k not even a gen in. for some reason. I looped him. On the sign in front of ormand resort. U heard me right. No palette. A gen, a rock, and a sign. Sis let me loop her for 4 gens basically (also the epic nea on my team w self care. I got some flashlight saves as well) she was a streamer so it's a why I remember it so well. Pure shock abuse

Being a demo main has a big advantage as survivors will always have less experience playing against him than the other killers, especially as time goes on and newer people join

For me personally, I don't mind medkits that much as Ghostface. Mainly because I lean heavily into Ghostface's Stalking, and my favorite thing to do as him is instadown with his power. It can be hard on certain maps, but my experience as a Bone-clapper Ghost using Wraith helps me find unexpected angles to stalk survivors from.

@pieterlindeque7798

Жыл бұрын

I use Nurse's Calling and Sloppy Butcher on him. The amount of times I double stalk people because they try to heal and I find them is very high.

I believe Sadako is so high for all MMR also because of how new players are with the tapes and getting fully condemned, along with stealth and good perks. A new survivor sees a TV, feels they need to prevent Sadako from teleporting, and take the tape, applying some slow down and building condemned.

@Predated2

Жыл бұрын

And that on high MMR, Sadako's focus on getting an early deathstare by harassing the same survivor over and over again, and because without any comms, this means that Sadako quite easily gets an early kill because there is no way to demand help without comms or perks(like Empathy). Closing the gap between solo and SWF will lower Sadako's killrate significantly in high MMR.

@h2ojr1

Жыл бұрын

I main sadako and you are completely right. I am surprised to no end to see survivors grabbing a tape at the start of the trial and maximizing their own condemn by the end of the end.

@Szkarlatny53

Жыл бұрын

True, even at medium MMR i see people with tape acting like it's their treasure and then they die at 5 gens without getting hooked once.

@paulodelima5705

Жыл бұрын

@@Predated2 SWF is part of the kill rate and should be more common at the 5% top MMR.

@paulodelima5705

Жыл бұрын

At the top 5% this should not be a problem.

Great video and explanations Otz, the high MMR Sadako > Condemn strat was something I didn't even think of so I'm glad you pointed it out. One bit of feedback though, I think it would have been better if the pickrate image you made was organized by % of picks instead of alphabetically. But that might just be me, gonna hop over to the stream now you're live

@atmosdwagon4656

Жыл бұрын

It's worth mentioning that the Sadako strat is like most Pig strats, in that it's not the killer's base kit at all, but add-ons doing most of the work. Tape-Editing Deck plus Iri-Tape are required on the build that actually makes Sadako dangerous, because as a "stealth killer", she's completely inept and very, very easy to loop. (a stealth killer who announces their presence and specific position every time they use their power...what on Earth was BHVR smoking?)

@pvzfan4208

8 ай бұрын

commie demihuman spotted

I loved your analysis of Dredge. As a noob survivor, the first time I played against Dredge, I'd never seen him and was unfamiliar with his powers. His terror radius was getting closer and so I hid in a locker and he immediately came out of it and got a grab. It resulted in an amazing scary moment that will always be one of my favorite early DBD memories. However, now that I know that and have been playing longer, I'd almost never hide in a locker against Dredge. Considering new and solo players who have never gone up against Dredge before (because at least as far as I've seen, he's not played very often at low MMR), he gets a lot of free grabs.

Love the vids bro, you helped me get into DBD keep it up! :)

I think sadako is so high with newer survivors and killers because I have a theory that the new survivors expected the bigger and more hulking killers like wraith or nemesis so they aim to look higher on their screen to look to see when they are even in their remote area so when a sadako just appears the survivors panic and don't think about trying to loop or look for the nearest pallet because they have been jumpscared by a sadako appearing they don't think properly

Incredible analysis! Thank you, Otz!

As an Onryo main I can also add that not many survivors have experience against Sadako. They don't know what to do or how to handle the TVs. Sadako has amazing perks, pretty good add-ons and is rather easy to play. She also, like Myers, has a secondary way to kill survivors which also adds to the percentage. Defending a 3gen is rather easy to do with her because of her great perks and insane mobility. Players seem to get confused when I teleport over the entire map in seconds and don't know to react to that

Talking about Dredge @10:26, I think you should mention that Darkness Revealed is huge against new survivors or solo players, especially on maps where lockers are more concentrated, or the RNG puts all the gens in range of a locker.

Another point about Wesker that I think you missed (or I missed you mentioning it) is that he does have some built-in slowdown with his Ouroboros infection and the fact you have to use first aid kits. Sure, it's not as much as Pig or Pinhead, but it's still there and Wesker is probably better than those two in other aspects explaining him being higher up

@Wardzz00

Жыл бұрын

He said it but yea, fair point still !

@levirift9218

Жыл бұрын

He didn't miss that.

For me, I've exclusively been playing Wesker solely because of the Halloween event. He is new and the only one I didnt have P3, so when I leveled him up I got event offerings. And I just couldn't waste them haha

Dude those videos are great , very informative for newer players , tyty

I play with friends that don't play DbD that often and whenever we go against a Dredge they run around like they are blind. To inexperienced players that don't have maps and loops memorised it is very difficult to deal with. When I play Dredge I also see a lot of survivors run into walls and run out into nothing even though you can still see the nearest pallet to you. Newer survivors just tend to panic and try to hide whenever nightfall happens.

@caratownsend1166

Жыл бұрын

I think you're underestimating how genuinely strong nightfall is on a bad TV/bright room

@fart63

Жыл бұрын

@@caratownsend1166 even on my pc in my normal brightness room it is painful to see. I don’t enjoy playing against him because of that

@meiyami93

Жыл бұрын

Consol players can't even see well the "white" things that are supposed to be seen :v

Another thing u see in the chart is that some of the top killers are licensed, don’t know if that changes too much but I know those characters enticed me to play the game as well, so people may have bought them when they got the game.

The night fall for dredge is definitely what bumps him up. I’ve played against veteran players and there reactions are priceless 💀💀. And it’s not that they don’t understand it but it racks there nerves and make mistakes faster than usual.

Thoughts on giving separate data for pc and console? It would show the obvious aim oriented and micro adjustment killers, but I feel there would be some weird discrepancies and also allow us to filter out problems based on gaming system

I'm not super high mmr I think but my problem with dredge is that my tv is on pretty dark settings to not hurt my eyes too much. I'm already struggeling to see on the darker maps to the point where I sometimes run into random walls that I could't see. When I'm facing dredge my screen is just completely black which is why it's my least favourite killer to ho against now

@eddypartey1075

Жыл бұрын

how to deal with dredge without windows of opportunity its nearly impossible during nightfall

@karimsonsafehold9233

Жыл бұрын

I have lights not from the ceiling and I shade my windows. You can try changing your contrast/settings rather than the brightness.

@yuzin9028

Жыл бұрын

I main Dredge, but i admit that Dredge on TV is just a nightmare, specially when there's people like you that can't play with high brightness/contrast. It's a shame that any fix towards this would pretty much make nightfall useless. I thought about a basic brightness settings in game, cause a lot of people play on TV or can't stand being too close to a bright monitor screen.

It would be interesting to be able to know which perks are the most use by each killers.

This was super informative and beautifully designed!

this was a really good video. thanks otz!

Sadako top tier killer 💅

@wisdomwielder

Жыл бұрын

SADAKO SWEEP

As a casual killer player, I like playing Sadako, in a chase against survivors that are not used to her, you can push/lead them toward the tv's then teleporting there to confuse them and builds up condemn stacks rapidly.

@yuzin9028

Жыл бұрын

The add-on that gives condemn for healing is so good, i think it's part of the reason her kill rate is high, and is a good add-on for a more casual playstyle, cause you just need to injure survivors for it to work

Honestly, I like the expected kill-rate being around 60%. This game was initially inspired, and features characters from, many classic slasher films, where there's usually 1 survivor, with a second person getting away every so often. The kill rates as they are seem balanced to fit the inspiration, and I enjoy that. I mean, if me and 3 of my friends got trapped by a super-powered murderer, I'm pretty sure we'd be lucky to have one get out alive, let alone 2. Not that I don't get the 50/50 argument in terms of being a fair video game, but for immersion, I prefer things as they are.

@kingol4801

Жыл бұрын

This. Horror experience and authenticity to those pop-cultural elements is all that really matters. Game loses it’s charm if it becomes too easy to sway the odds in survivor’s favors.

It was said by someone in chat on Monday’s stream; in all MMRs the reason for some of the strange killers in the high kill rates is that they have “unusal” mechanics. Dredge: nightfall, Plague: cleansing (especially lower MMR and solos not knowing when to cleanse), Pig: dealing with beartraps, Freddy: clocks (lower MMRs wake up with clocks ALL the time), Wesker: first aid sprays + unsual m2 attack, Sadako: TV’s (especially with the tape addons) and Pinhead: the box. For new people, casual players and solos, these things are very critical and I believe it boosts their rates significantly. Great video as always Otz, thank you so much for breaking these things down!

"It's Weskin time!" Said Wesker as he proceeded to wesk all over the roster

As a pinhead main, it's pretty clear a lot of new players simply have no idea what's going on, ignorance might explain a lot of the unexpected stats here. I also run Nemi a lot, and new players often go through obvious bad spots when contaminated like windows and pallets where getting a hit with the tentacle is easy for an experienced nemi.

@harrythegreat21person63

Жыл бұрын

I started playing when Pinheqd was added, and I had no fucking clue what was happening. The Lament Configuration can be very confusing to new players.

@karimsonsafehold9233

Жыл бұрын

@@harrythegreat21person63 welcome to hell

@karimsonsafehold9233

Жыл бұрын

I use double zombie add ons, and the zombies gives me info on where they are running around at and it also disrupts a lot of their generator runs. As I run dead man's switch too.

amazing video, your content is so incredible man keep it up!!!!

just saw this graph on stream yesterday and now he already has a 32 min video explaining every single detail, what a madlad

@madbart214yomother7

Жыл бұрын

That's cause it takes 30 mins to realize how garbage these stats are. Would take hours to explain how to come up with any of this and thats if they even give evidence for their stats.

Adding a secondary objective really destroys solo queue and low rank players. Pinhead in particular can be a nightmare if no one wants to take the box. I love taking the box and messing with it but I find my teammates only go for it when we are all already being targeted. Freddy being so high is insane to me because his secondary objective rips his power away from him with no cost. I have played a good chunk of freddy and see a lot of dcs and self unhooks against him because they do not realize how weak he is. Just use the clocks and half of his kit will not work and he will just have a slow TP. Sadako having a high kill rate is probably because she can stomp noobs and high mmr sadako is played by one tricks/mains who get only the best results. Her secondary objective and how her add ons can affect it will confuse survivors who do not play against her or as her.

One thing about Pig is that a huge number of players at mid/low MMR don't seem to know that you can't run out the exits with an armed trap. I see lots of trapped survivors make a sprint for the exits the second the gens are done and the gates are open, with the resulting head pop following.

@kingol4801

Жыл бұрын

Which is how it should be. It is weird that activated traps (once gates get opened) don’t automatically pop by default.

Yes. As a newbie I feel dredge is the most scary killer, with the nightfall ability. Without window of opportunity I don't know how to loop him at all.

Thank you otz you helped me understand this more

The nurses stats are heavily influenced by something I call Nurse Aversion, I know a large group of DBD players won't even touch Nurse because they believe she is too strong. I have never played Nurse outside of a single custom match among friends, and everyone in my group is the same, and I believe a decent portion of the DBD community is the same. Noobs wouldn't be averse to Nurse, and could be drawn to her due to her infamy as being "OP" and they figure starting as her will help them out

@donyates7300

Жыл бұрын

im a casual player that would very rarely play nurse, on console. Everytime they give up as soon as they hear the scream....like sometimes dc, usually they run at me, or go afk. I hit MAYBE 70% of my blink hits, on a good day. I run information perks like dicordance, and spies.

@yuzin9028

Жыл бұрын

@@donyates7300 It's even hard to get good at her, cause people don't really want to play against Nurse

@weskerrun4647

Жыл бұрын

I don’t play Nurse because I suck with Nurse’s power and don’t feel like putting in the time to get better at it on console, lel

@donyates7300

Жыл бұрын

@@weskerrun4647 not that hard, it sucks for the first 3 dozen or so games(or however long it takes for muscle memory) then you’ll be decent. If you can hit 50% of your blinks, you’ll win most matches. Especially versus solo Que.

@donyates7300

Жыл бұрын

Also, someone above stated, you’ll get lots of games with a dc after they hear the first blink, or you’ll get suicides. Last game I played with her months ago, they all just stopped trying. I dced cause I know how they feel. Nurse is a pain as solo Que, and I only run one slowdown on her.

Another really important point on the all mmr stats is that less popular killers seem to be a little higher up. This makes sense because the probability that the player who plays the killer is more experienced is higher

As a Dredge main, I can say that Nightfall does help to secure kills. Since Nightfall increases the speed at which you travel when teleporting to a locker allows you to cut off survivors during chase. That and some of Dredges Addons allow for some very strong setups throughout the game.

@yuzin9028

Жыл бұрын

I'm also a Dredge main, and i don't think i'll never stop using builds focused on aura reading, it's so good to get grabs with darkness revealed.

So for Sadako, I can share a bit of my own experience that might provide insight (newish - med-level killer). I recently picked up Sadako and started playing her after not playing for a long time so I was at the lowest ranks of matchmaking starting out, then started moving up to mid-level (Silver II so far). I actually have found with her at lowest levels, she gets an *incredibly* strong start against newer survivors. They don't seem to recognize the TV's so don't know there's a Sadako on the roam, and get themselves cornered easily at match start which is huge for any killer. Though other stealth killers can do this as well, because I had some of the most common killer perks teachable before picking up Sadako, I was able to go into matches with Pop and Call of Brine, which through to mid-level ranking was devastating survivors since I could chase down, hook, then teleport back through a TV to always pop the exact gen I wanted. Combined with Sadako's very strong low level addons against low-mid level players makes her very strong against newer players. I'm running 50% invisibility duration, and -6 meters visibility range while demanifested, and probably half the matches I play or more I have someone at the start just run into my M1 range by themselves not realizing I'm there until it's too late. Getting pop/call of brine combo right off the bat, against low level survivors, with the common very strong start of survivors not recognizing the killer and mispositioning against her short range visibility I think is why Sadako does so well in overall.

@sleepyking4558

Жыл бұрын

Ur color grading (silver, ash, iridescent) is not ur sbmm rank.

@Cinjrak

Жыл бұрын

@@sleepyking4558 For sure, but unfortunately I can't see my MMR, so instead I used the colour grading as a means of representing the general MMR range which I've been playing through. Due to the length of time since last played, one would assume starting at 'default MMR', and the range would increase to an approximate amount one would achieve while getting from ash V to Silver II. While it's not 1:1, it's the best representation made available without using third party tools that I'm aware of. I fully appreciate that MMR is a separate system though, and apologize for not making that more clear.

Personal theory for top 5% cannibal is that most top players have a zero hits mindset when they see bubba while it's easier to overestimate your situation with other killers almost everyone understands that if bubba catches you it's ggs

Devs should show the most dc'd against killers next and what survivors dc the most LOL

@chykheangea3741

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Easily nurse and blight. Maybe 4 slowdown plague and legion I guess

what a great video and really interesting info. i loved it.

Something you missed about low mmr Pig and Dredge. They are *rare* killers that *casual* players forget how to play against. SO many new players will try to escape with a beartrap on, or not know how to loop Dredge. The same argument can be made for Pinhead, Freddy, Sadako Legion and Myres but that is less observable.

Stealth killers are like the only killers im worried about. The other ones i love running in circles and tossing pallets on them. The ability to distract tunnel visioned killers for up to several minutes is beneficial always even if it ultimately results in you being hooked. The stealth characters are all annoying in some way, are hard to keep track off, and usually once you see them, its after being hit.

no shot im actually early af

@user-vq1ss4mm7m

Жыл бұрын

Same

@hollow_sorrow

Жыл бұрын

The early stabber gets the frenzy down? xd

@MixaCat

Жыл бұрын

Same here Tat!😊

@2Node

Жыл бұрын

proof?

@chococcinno

Жыл бұрын

dc

I would like to see YOUR Ideas to Rework and Buffs/Nerfs with Quality of Life Changes you suggest for Each Killer and Addons. (may Take a While)

Great information. Thanks!

We've met a couple Cenobites that all they did was chase their box from the very start. They'd find it in no time, or they'd catch one of us picking it up or around. They activate the box, and boom, 90% of the game you have chains chasing you, so it makes the game both a nightmare and mostly unwinnable. Bear in mind, his focus is always picking up the box, even dropping chases to pick it up. I found that strategy incredibly op.

@zaer-ezart

Жыл бұрын

If you try solving the box and the bar is red you know you're in for a painful game

Seeing Dredge doing sort of okay brings me happiness, I always do terribly with him, now I see I can do better

@jacobbuchanan6076

Жыл бұрын

I get wrecked by Dredge and Nemesis players. Dredge, i feel, is the easiest killer to setup a 3 gen situation. While Nemesis has too much info from Zombies along with a wonky tentacle hit box

@23lizardking

Жыл бұрын

He's soooooo boring to face. Sry, if you are a Dredge main but it feels like Behaviour's latest original killers are all visually amazing (Artist, Dredge, Trickster) but facing them and playing them is super frustrating and boring. Meanwhile, Sadako, Nemisis and Mastermind are actually fun!

@scars3596

Жыл бұрын

@@23lizardking I wish the killer queues allowed me to main anything 😂

I think an underrated reason for many of the “overall” (low) MMR top tier killers is their height. Beginner and average players won’t be able to play around shorter killers’ mindgames at filler pallets. The lowest winrate short killer is hag at 59% which I think backs this theory as well as explaining the inflated freddy numbers (although I di think his “stealth” factor puts him at a high wr% by default at lower MMR

This actually quite insightful 👌

Another thing to consider with Sadako, despite not being good in chase, she's super short, and her passive phasing is immensely confusing at times. I've gotten a noticeably greater amount of hits around safe pallet loops by trying to use demanifest in chase or trying to use height to my advantage.

@BobWolf006

Жыл бұрын

The ability to teleport on TV is also really useful. It allow you to surprise survivors by faking a chase and coming back on a Gen that you know they are doing. With the perk that make them oblivious near a TV, you'll get some good result.

@elimoser7546

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@@BobWolf006 True. I haven't quite gotten to that level, but I'm definitely trying!

@BobWolf006

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@@elimoser7546 If you see 2 survivors on a gen,, chase one. If it's too hard to get your second hit, you can quickly come back by teleporting. Survivors will 95% come back to finish the gen and prevent hit from regressing too much.

Another thing that you didn't mention: Many bad killers tend to not buy the killer DLCs, so killers like dredge are played mostly by "better than average" players so it would kill more

@TheRealMycanthrope

Жыл бұрын

Source?

@sleepyking4558

Жыл бұрын

Yea nah plenty of terrible people still bih the killer dlcs. And many many people who play these killers are definitely average or below. They are just playing against survivors who are also below average and don’t understand how to play against them.

@andreataccone2564

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@@sleepyking4558 I'm not saying that only good people buy him, but that the average would be slightly better since many starting players don't have him

@andreataccone2564

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@@TheRealMycanthrope it was foretold by a mystical non-camping bubba! Joking aside; people just starting tend not to buy every single dlc, and only buys the killer's pack or the famous ones they recognize like demo or myers. So we are left with the good ol' farming, and even there i bet they would aim to the thicc-er killers before buying him or the twins

It looks like the top killers (in all MMRs) are generally ones you pay for as well (with a few exceptions). More experienced players are more likely to play with them.

Hey Otz, im kinda new to dbd so if you could answer, wich pack should i get?

So, I think Dredge is up there because it is a stealth, information and mobility killer all in one. For new survivors I imagine it to be very overwhelming to play against him, as you have so many things to keep in mind. Especially with Nightfall.

@muysli.y1855

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Dredge(Plague) are in low and High MMR strong not like nurse where you need skill to play. Maybe need a right adjustment

How about the argument that killers which are behind a pay wall or needs to be unlocked with shards have a better killrate. Because these are bought by players who are more likely to 1: invest in the killer and 2) already have a understanding of the game mechanics

About the overall mmr and Legion/Dredge situation - both can punish survivors for using lockers (which even tutorial teaches to use when killer is nearby). I remember when I started as Legion many survs were doing the mistake of hiding in a locker when I used Frenzy, which gives free grabs. Artist kinda as well, since she can get killer instinct from a lockered survivor. Also about the Pig - I remember my early games as her had survs that were just dying out from RBTs because they ignored them/didn't knew what it was, so they were popping them. That also might be a reason why Pig is so high. And about Sadako - ignorant survs also help her getting good ammount of kills. I remember when played as her (I'm still kinda low, I don't enjoy her, playing her mostly for daily quests) I had a game where all 4 survivors got fully condemned from tape starting addon, no one bothered to get rid of them (they got rid of them only after I moried one). All that of course is just my personal observation (I'm still fairly new to this game and possibly have low to mid mmr on most killers (if not all of them)).

Otz I'd love to see you play blighted rush deathslinger. I've been having a lot of fun with it. I'm running pop, nurses, trails, and dragons grip.