“This gameplay loop is pretty stupid, but its kinda fun.” Yes.

@ZackeroniAndCheese

3 ай бұрын

1:18:35

@Lyganesh

3 ай бұрын

Yes

@solodolo7161

3 ай бұрын

Welcome to the last 20 years of my life Day9

@pupper5580

3 ай бұрын

that's what you get when you choose a mage. raiding as a mage: 'frost bolt. frost bolt. frost bolt.' If you want a REALLY fun experience, try playing a tank - just dungeon tanking is like you're playing a piano (for example at Scarlet monastery level). You can get away with by doing less as a tank, but if you want to fully utilize all the possibilities and potential of a warrior tank, you're literally a concert pianist. But you have to be really skilled, diligent, and disciplined to find all the ways you can gain extra performance as a warrior-tank. An example, dungeon tanking: (mark targets: skull, cross) switch 2h, berserk stance, berserk rage, battle stance, charge, sweeping strikes, berserk stance, whirlwind, defensive stance, switch to 1h+ shield, sunder armor, cleave, etc. That is just an example of an opener as a warrior.

@murkethecow

3 ай бұрын

@@pupper5580 You don't play the piano do you

I may have to skip this video....I REALLY REALLY REALLY don't want to get the itch again. I'm 5 years clean

@Billis75

3 ай бұрын

And they just announced a new thing for the next patch where you can create a new character and speed-run the entire Mists of Pandaria expansion.,.

@calvin158

3 ай бұрын

It's never quitting only a break brother

@apharys8921

3 ай бұрын

I just remind myself that the idea of the game is often more enticing than reality.

@EnderGoku9001

2 ай бұрын

​@@apharys8921indeed best we have is classic rn

@freshfavorites7212

2 ай бұрын

I'll get back on for a few weeks and then realize why I left and the cycle of never mind oh I kinda miss it starts all over again.

Playing WoW on release was one of the COOLEST events of my life, its unlike anything Ive ever experienced. Classic release was a thing, but vanilla was crazy because it was SO much discovery, and it was before the answers were easy to find

@Myst031

3 ай бұрын

My edition came with a strategy guide lol

@nickelodeann

3 ай бұрын

As someone that’s been following wow this whole time, its fall from grace can be attributed to the community just as much if not more than to the devs. Season of discovery is absolute Zerg fest, optimizing the fun out of every part.

@TheLastKidOnTheBus

3 ай бұрын

Hello fellow old man. I had the same exact experience and to this day nothing has even come close. Would you like to compare pictures of our receding hairlines or children? lol.

@Novacification

3 ай бұрын

Yeah, the feeling of not having a clue of what was to come was a powerful one and increasingly difficult to get these days. It wasn't unique to World of Warcraft but the scale of the game and the hype leading up to it really amplified that feeling. I remember playing as human and my GF playing as night elf and just getting to each other was a grand adventure.

@VeloVios

3 ай бұрын

This is why we need a reset and new game completely, a wow 2. Even if it plays and looks the same, we need something new and unknown for everyone to enjoy. Classic looks cool and all, but I've done it and do not want to do it again

I'm only like 15 minutes in, but as someone who spent close to 20 years playing this game, this is DEEPLY FASCINATING to watch. I actually am so enjoying watching someone who is both really into game design, and also has literally not played WoW at all, nor any other traditional MMO.

@qpSubZeroqp

3 ай бұрын

Completely agreed with your opinion

@dnlkr

3 ай бұрын

WoW is not a traditional MMO. Tibia is a traditional MMO, Ultima Online is a traditional MMO, Runescape is a traditional MMO. WoW is like 4th gen MMO.

@missyou2023

3 ай бұрын

​@@dnlkrWho are you

@goblinspy

3 ай бұрын

@@dnlkr Imagine choosing to be the "ackchyually" meme guy in real life

@toddsmith1969

3 ай бұрын

​@@goblinspyimagine having a lower iq

"how can a game i've never played feel so nostalgic" classic wow was a very special chapter in gaming. happy to see you playing

@Bleaxz6584

Ай бұрын

I watched my buddies playing back then it seemed mesmerizing

The disconnections are there to give you the true classic experience.

@leovaeg

3 ай бұрын

reminds me of having dialup internet JUNO USERS CALLOUT!

@Thanos1908

3 ай бұрын

@@leovaeg I bought WoW at launch...and quit not a month later. (Then came back a couple of years down the line) Between the server load being too much for the crappy servers Blizzard runs EVERY new game on ..and the amount of people running scripts to consistently hammer the log-in server in hopes of getting in before (what seemed to be) the rest of the human race and all nearby Alien species ...my initial experience was mostly staring at a login screen.

@smileychess

3 ай бұрын

@@leovaeg - My mom still has an @juno email address. Man those were the days.

@AaronMichaelLong

3 ай бұрын

No, I'm afraid the connections used to be much more stable back in the day.

@calebowman9782

3 ай бұрын

Noooo he made a mage lol

**You have been disconnected from the server** Sean: "Is this the game?" Every WoW player of all time: "Yes."

@lIIest

3 ай бұрын

I have not dc'd in years

@kpkost

3 ай бұрын

Yeah I legit can’t remember the last time I DCd other than Blizzard DDOS whenever that was

@Blackadder75

3 ай бұрын

@@kpkost there are 3 kinds of bugs that make people DC. 1) server side errors at blizzard , that affect everybody. 2) Player side bugs on that can be the players fault, that affect only players who did something wrong. BUT also 3) Player side bugs that ARE Blizzards fault, but only affect certain machines. So only players with those configurations are affected, while many other players never have that problem and think everything is fine.. Because 3 exists, you can't trust your own experience in these things.

@tjv323

3 ай бұрын

The true vanilla experience

@Zere616

3 ай бұрын

@@tjv323 Nah, would need to add 4h+ queues after every dc :)

Watching this video makes me feel qualified for a senior discount

@mattwatson7510

3 ай бұрын

Dude 😂

@Hughes86

2 ай бұрын

Damn...I agree...and it hurt my soul.

It was super fascinating to watch a "veteran gamer" be introduced to such an iconic gameplay system. The way even hours in he was still messing up basic functionalities is a great reminder of how much knowledge we build over time, and how much of a barrier to entry even the simplest things can be.

@Blackadder75

3 ай бұрын

I saw a youtuber of the same generation make a few vids about current retail wow. Despite 100 noob friendly adjustments and hand holding blizzard has done in the past 20 years, he was completely lost because at every corner of every street in SW City you have 12 sparkly things from 10 expansions fighting for your attention, while you are on the intro level story quest line. And once you fall into the rabbit hole of teleportation between worlds without knowing anything from any expansion you might end up in a dead zone where you are lost forever. I think he gave up after a few play sessions

@firelanderinoportarlino7437

3 ай бұрын

But in just little over one hour he was doing fence kiting

@Ares42

3 ай бұрын

@@firelanderinoportarlino7437 Sure, but then he also died to the kobolds a couple of times because he kept unintentionally switching targets back and forth.

@EB-bl6cc

3 ай бұрын

@@Blackadder75 this is exactly why we need a WoW 2. There's such an INSANE amount of bloat.. there needs to be a reset, badly

@bobbrossify

3 ай бұрын

@@EB-bl6cc It wouldn't do well. The WoW community is large and healthy and likes the game the way it is. You're not forcing a playerbase of that size to unlearn 20 years of knowledge.

Backseaters are like the giant arrow, quest pointer. They don't realize that part of the fun of watching this content is observing that moment when day9 finds out he fcked up, and LEARNS from it. Those learning moments are so good. I'm just watching and thinking, oh it's gonna be so juicy when he finds out that...

@teliots

3 ай бұрын

Anybody who uses the term 'backseater' is peak cringe.

@meleevids

3 ай бұрын

​@@teliots day9 used the term many times in this video

@teliots

3 ай бұрын

@@meleevids omega cringe

@luukielol1

3 ай бұрын

@@teliots anybody who uses the term peak or omega cringe is peak omega cringe.

@teliots

3 ай бұрын

@@luukielol1 omega cringe

They way Day9 appreciates and loves Brood War is the same way I love this game. Seeing him play this for the first time is magic.

20:20 "I don't even need to be looking at this" with "Target needs to be in front of you" on the screen ended me

I love that the first thing you did was change the controls to exactly how ive played wow for 20 years. No camera movement, A and D to strafe. truly a legend

@youdyed

2 ай бұрын

Literally how everyone plays the game lol you're not a unique snowflake.

Sean is right that the original is so chill. I could never quite place what made the game feel so comfortable. Trying to play the retail game is a completely different experience now.

@theperfectbeing

3 ай бұрын

A lot of it has to do with being a nobody adventure trying to find your way while wandering the world and visiting quaint little towns, also the world is inherently dangerous due to limitations of your character. Retail wow throws all of that away for expediency, making all players feel like heroes from the start and trivializes all basic items/exploration with hand holding.

@Rudepetsclub

3 ай бұрын

@@theperfectbeing right! It establishes a normal, which I feel like we don’t get as much anymore with fantasy adventure type games.

@mattweber2512

3 ай бұрын

Vanilla WoW was focused around creating a world rather than a series of zones that were merely backdrops for flashy quest events. This led to the common complaints of quests being boring "kill ten rats" or fetch quests but paradoxically those boring quests were better at immersing you into the world than the Cataclysm and on style of more involved quests. Why exactly this is I'm not sure. Maybe it is because it gives a sense that the world has been going on before you and will keep going on after you've passed through.

Seeing Day9 finally buy Arcane Intellect only to buff the trainer made me spit out my water.. goddamn it

@smileychess

3 ай бұрын

It was so frustrating that he ignored it for 2 hours. But that just made it all the sweeter when he finally got it. Then…

@robertmatys2456

3 ай бұрын

@@smileychess he did buy it eventually? I was so triggered when he ran past the two quest givers without so much as a glance in their direction and then not learning the first spell youre offered was too much and had to pause the video to watch another time.

@smileychess

3 ай бұрын

@@robertmatys2456 - I don't blame you. I watched both his wow classic videos at 2x speed to get through them without spending an entire workday's worth of time. It was enjoyable, but I was ripping my balls off at a few points. Which is part of the experience.

@Broockle

3 ай бұрын

@@robertmatys2456 ye, and spent more time organizing what not to loot at every body than it would have taken him to just loot all and sell everything later 😅

its honestly nice seeing someone play a game that I played for over 10years and hearing their take on the game. I always enjoy watching someone learn something that I grew up playing, I look forward to more if there will be

The thing that stayed most with me from that game is the sound and music design which transport me right back. It makes spells and hits feel like they connect, the ambient sound in quiet moments is immersive and the epic soundtrack changing between epic and contemplative ist just fantastic. Having Mulgore open up to me after leaving Camp Narache with my first MMO character will be forever burned into may brain. And what Sean says about missing quest guidance and being rewarded for exploration is so true. I played through Skyrim and Oblivion, but by the end more so I can say that I finished the main quests. I never finished Morrowind due to bugs, but let me tell you there are so many moments I can remember from this game and I listen to some tracks from it (and from WoW) to this day. One day I will find the time to play either Morrowind or WoW: Classic again, maybe this time, with one or both of my kids...

@rikterandersson3568

3 ай бұрын

Truly 'atmosphere' remains elusive for so many game developers. So many games I have played have fallen flat despite cool mechanics, deep interesting gameplay, cinematics, etc. because they can't make all of that come together correctly to create a great atmosphere. Music, soundscape and correct art direction is so often underestimated while fidelity, loudness and demanding graphics gets overemphasized. WoW, beyond its scale, is a great example. Perfect choice of music (chilling in elwynn forest compared to visiting glorious stormwind) and timeless grapichs because the art direction is so strong. Love it!

@chrisemond7172

3 ай бұрын

I also couldn't finish morrowwind, my furthest attempt i was stuck as a vampire and the quest was bugged to unvampire. But my god, randomly finding some orc and him trapping me in a basement in some sort of weird ass hunt was amazing. I killed him and took his stuff.

@teamredshirt

3 ай бұрын

@@chrisemond7172 You just encapsulated my Morrowind experience into two sentences better than I ever could.

@Lunarcheese72

3 ай бұрын

The composers and the people making the cinematics are the only people at blizzard who have kicked neverending ass and never faltered. I haven't seriously played in 12 years and I still make sure to check out all of the cinematics when they are released.

@youdyed

2 ай бұрын

Ironically that's the only thing retail WoW does better than classic. The sounds of spells connection in classic are scraping my brain like nails on a chalkboard. The newer sounds are perfection.

It took two hours to train Arcane Intellect. This is the new user experience I’ve been waiting for.

9:21 ah yes, there's that classic WoW gameplay experience. Only surprising he wasn't in the middle of combat when it happened.

@Uuugggg

3 ай бұрын

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@ivers1001

3 ай бұрын

And then 8 minutes later he is dc'd again, only this time IN combat lolol.

Ooooh how I wish I saw this live, I love you day9, and this is kind of as big as when you played Amnesia for me, of course it's even bigger considering everything you told us and even if it wasn't for that, what a great thing this is. I can't really describe it with words but this is so cool to see.

9:21 this is the true experience, welcome to the game

@TheIvasyl

3 ай бұрын

just part of the game man

@h3rteby

3 ай бұрын

Except then having a ping of >1000 for the rest of the night :P

@Stunt3

3 ай бұрын

Im watching this while playing sod, and 2 seconds after his dc, i got a dc.

This was extremely enjoyable to watch. It was wonderful to see a new player simply enjoy the game as I and all my friends did almost 20 years ago now. I've always liked your personality, but since I'm not that into Starcraft, I've only ever properly watched you when you've hosted gaming events. Nice to see you do something so familiar to me! I have come to hate the hyper minmax playstyle people play with even in classic era, so I only play HC WoW, since people play that at a wholly different pace and mindset.

3:16:50 Sean: "you think we're strong enough, Altenon?" Chat Window: "Altenton yells for you to flee!"

Spending 20 minutes configuring the keyboard and chat options on a game that Sean likely won’t play again after today … this is the content I’m here for.

15:00 “Oh my God, I’m gonna get 25 kidney beans” I never laughed so hard 😂

It's really interesting hearing you talk about the way the game works, as someone who's been playing it most of my life I can overlook the small stuff you mention.

As a wow player for 15 years this was amazing to watch, thank you :D

35:53 not sure why but the "uh, for the alliance bro" got me so hard

@8thlvlMage

3 ай бұрын

Very strong "I showed up to this event and I don't know what it's for, but there's a cheese tray" vibes.

9:19 I'm REALLY glad you got to experience the real Warcraft game feel. It's just not the same if you don't know what it's like

@stoxxed

3 ай бұрын

lmao

Please more classic this is the most fun I've had watching a video in ages. listening to your commentary and how you perceive this old school mmo from a perspective of someone who hasn't played mmo's is AWESOME!

Its crazy that they made a MMORPG just based off Hearthstone game

@DazePhase

3 ай бұрын

It's the other way around. Hearthstone is based off WoW.

@rolandlee6898

2 ай бұрын

@@DazePhase No way...

@user-df8ds2zq3h

26 күн бұрын

Yea wow came out before hearthstone try 19 years before hearthstone

@Diablo-pl7jo

26 күн бұрын

@@user-df8ds2zq3h im glad you got the joke...

1:18:15 man's never played wow and immediately knows to exploit the fence terrain when he pulls multiple mobs. chad gamer.

@Blackadder75

3 ай бұрын

the rest of his play was the typically backpedaling newbie style , so I think he must have seen that somewhere, or maybe used it in other games

@8thlvlMage

3 ай бұрын

It's not the craziest logical leap to make.

@smileychess

3 ай бұрын

Everyone has blind spots. In 2004, I played a Priest, but I was deep into BWL before getting my first wand.

@Blackadder75

3 ай бұрын

@@smileychess that's really weird, given the importance of wands for priest leveling, or did you go shadow ?

@iambarnowl

3 ай бұрын

@@smileychess i was so scared to over-aggro on broodlord that i wanded the whole fight on my mage :D ah, good times.

50:08 I see he's already practicing for his role in endgame as a mage

What a delight, it feels like reliving my first time playing. Definitely will be watching this series! You’re the man Day9

pausing my "the barrens - music & ambience" video to see sean play wow-cassic :) wow has a special place in my heart. sometimes i wish i could turn back time and just have the time to strave through the barrens with my undead rogue for hours, killing raptors and quillboars @day9tv - i'm not sure if that's a style you want to go for, but there's a AI-Voiceover addon for classic, which reads you the quest-text in a mostly very fitting voice of the NPC that has given you the quest.

I'd just like to say that revisiting your channel to binge all your blizzard month stuff has felt like catching up with a very old friend. I don't know why I stopped watching you for the most part. You're still as golden and glorious as ever.

Seriously, I could watch hundreds of hours of you just lulling around wow classic. Thanks for diving in for us and let us experience it again through your eyes :)

this might be the only "first time playing warcraft" video I've seen where the person wasn't duped into installing 50 "essential" addons within the first half hour

@Autonimaatio

Ай бұрын

So true, I love that Sean didn't let himself be pressured to everything that the chat says. It's nothing but pain for old players to overwhelm new people with things they do not understand or need in the beginning.

Had to add this to my liked immediately. Will be a blast to watch later!

Seeing Day9 ignore Arcane Intellect every time he visits the mage trainer hurts me deeply.

Having been a veteran WoW Player (since 07) it is what made me absolutely love Hearthstone at first too. Players that love Hearthstone should have a greater appreciation for WoW and vice versa.

I would watch you play this game for like 1,000 hours. This is so chill.

I wish you all the best Luck and Adventures on your Journey!! I love that you dont let Backseating taint your journey. Thats the way to go!!! The only way to really enjoy WoW! Reading and preparing is fun and enjoyable. This game rewards taking your time.

I loved the part about programming principles and stuff. I am self taught and have a lot of friends studying programming in university. I always argue with them the second they see my code. They get it so hammered in them that everything needs to be up to code its crazy. I kinda get it for huge team projects, but people tend to go too far in their quest for perfection.

I loved watching this, it's so good. And he's right! It is relaxing.

I, too, can have my productivity tanked by elegant code, but I think elegant code is so neat in the same way that an elegant math proof is neat, so I'll probably never change. I like the xkcd quote, "I find that when someone's taking time to do something right in the present, they're a perfectionist with no ability to prioritize, whereas when someone took time to do something right in the past, they're a master artisan of great foresight." :P This captures the dilemma in my heart.

@ilikeshiba

3 ай бұрын

There’s definitely layers to it. I was really into Haskell in college but as much as I love Haskell, what some would call elegant is abstracted beyond all reasonable sanity. Like it’s cool that you can solve the problem in a way that’s generic over the abstract concept of the shape of the structure of the data and that you can write it in a point-free style but if I have to debug or change that mess I’m going to get mad. Extremely simple code that is optimized for reading and has the fewest surprises per line of code and is obviously correct has an amazing elegance all its own.

@markbowser3978

3 ай бұрын

@@ilikeshiba Well said. Readability is a whole different variety of elegance

I absolutely love this! Please continue streaming your experience! =)

I really wish he went right into starting a new character on retail after that review/analysis at the end - just for the whiplash.

Changing strafe to A and D and getting rid of turn left turn right, something I wish I did when i first started playing wow, was hard adjusting after 15 years of doing it wrong.

Ultima Online was my best experience with gaming in the late 90s / early 2000s. I miss that game so much.

Can’t believe this is your first experience playing WoW! Great to see people trying the game out.

Ahhhhh yes!!! Been wanting this one Super needing this rn

i love that you intuitively sense that you should not keyboard turn right off the bat. gamer senses are tingling

loved the final thoughts! Really accurate and interesting point of view.

I LOL so hard watching trying to escape the fireballs 😀 Was fun watching you play for the first time

9:21 Hahaha, Sean getting the real WoW treatment quite early on 😂

Easiest was to strafe (at least for me) was always to just hold down the right mouse button which locks your camera and then use a and d as they were originally bound.

This is one of the funniest and most interesting streams I have seen!

This relaxed vibe was alot of fun to watch! Cant wait for the whole series! Sugared Onions!

Wait what?!? First time ever? No way! Hope you enjoy dude

DAY 9 finally playing wow! So hyped on this kind of content !

Welcome to the club!! We are similar, I came from starcraft and now also started to play wow classic

never thought id see the day! cant wait for the rest of the videos!

Been waiting 20 years for this!!!

Have an amazing time with the game, going to enjoy your wow content a lot

This is amazing content. Hope it keeps going brother.

It's so fascinating to see someone completely fresh trying to get to grips with MMO controls. For so many of us, all the idiosyncrasies of selecting targets, using abilities, etc. is pretty much muscle memory at this point, so it's easy to forget that there are people, who've no idea how all that works.

It happened! i renember Day 9 talking about why he dident play wow ages ago.

Lol I like that he unbound Q and E immediately without anyone having to tell him to

Getting backseat gamed at the beginning was definitely a large part of the experience for my friends and I. None of us picked it up on our own, we were all brought in by other people who really wanted us to make sure we played it. Also, I am surprised that Sean hasn't read "The WoW Diary"; where Staats goes into a lot of the game design process on making the game. Maybe he wanted to experience the game before reading it.

23:18 Day9 already workin on that Kobold rep lmfao

When he found the mine and said that he never died. 😂

Fun thing about the movement. I never rebound strafe keys nor do i ever use A and D to turn but i've gotten so used to this setup now that i could never bind anything else to those buttons because i fear that that would probably make me play like a total beginner again for whatever reason, forgetting everything else that i've learned in my 15 years of playing this game.

Damn we are getting old. I remember watching you back in 2011. Will add this video to watch later while playing WoW.

I love that you rebound strafe keys as the first thing. I did the same in 2004 :D "Q and E are closer to the hotkeys".. Well not if you rebind Q and E to be spell hotkeys!

@youdyed

2 ай бұрын

Right? People who use 1-9 for spells and abilities are insane. Why stretch that far away when you can keep your hand almost entirely on WASD and still use your skills?!

I never thought I would see the day Day9 playing classic wow, it's great!

I had such a blast playing when classic released - had never played it before and went it blind, just enjoying the game for what it was. Was hooked for months until my guild disbanded and then it lost its charm for me.

Backseat gamers would fail the Gom Jabbar

So glad you're finally experiencing WoW. I started with wacraft and starcraft RTS's too, and was skeptical of MMO, but turned out WoW is amazing game, that even is nice for my RSI arm to play compared to intense RTS and FPS games.

Does anyone remember playing TES: Morrowind? Specifically how you talk to a random NPC for a quest and that NPC said where once and wont talk to you again. That we had to use our journal and context clues of the journal notes.

Seeing Sean experiencing the server disconnect is priceless. The true authentic experience lol

this gameplay hurts my soul on so many levels but yet i liked it a lot

This is some of the most fun Day9 gameplay in a long time, go out and discover it by yourself Day9! You got it!

haven't played WoW since vanilla was about to "end" (1st expansion was coming out) but this is so fun to watch in the background while I answer emails and pay bills

@youdyed

2 ай бұрын

Damn, you missed the best parts of the game. :o

Good stuff Sean, liking videos like this

Classic andy here, HE SOLD BAG OF MARBLES REEEE

@sharonroy9877

Ай бұрын

My 60 HC still has them!! Saved for especially hard fights.

First minute of a new MMO - how do I disable all social interactions? How you know someone has been on the internet for a long time xD

As a person who play World of Warcraft since 2006, I am really amazed how you've never actually played it. Very, very popular game. Not in your main genre I guess. Great commentary and game analysis, had fun. :) 50:42 It gets funny after 3 disconnects for under an hour. 😂 Also 1:53:50 they are doing a dark ritual, don't ask. xD 2:07:39 His reaction when say the Spirit Healer for the first time, priceless. :D

I have been waiting for this video.

Man old school original WoW was so fun. I remember running around, my first little undead warrior, activating pumpkins in a field 😂😂😂

@Bleaxz6584

Ай бұрын

I was a troll hunter getting merked by random 60 alliance rogues in the crossroads

First think he does is rebind strafe to A+D, a true gamer at heart.

I have been waiting for this video for years.

I remember the Southshore/Tarren Mill pvp battles. That was the ultimate pvp back then.

Options tip: if you want to find something, just type a key phrase to the search bar. for example, if you want to find camera options just type "camera".

1:20:44 Already roleplaying as his character, he must really be into it!

Funny thing about the Bag of Marbles is that it works on bosses 😅 So it's pretty OP to save all the way from level 5 to the endgame and get that 25% miss rate on the hardest bosses.

I can’t play WoW atm, but I’m so glad and excited to see it through a new person’s perspective (more so when that person is one shot Plott)

‘Is this the game?’ really made me chuckle

I remember back in the day I got like a free month of WoW and played so much my hand was stuck in the shape of a mouse lol

Sean did his mage hotbar almost the exact same way i did it with food and drinks far right and the spell to conjure more beside it. Bolts far left, blast, Polymorph has been 7 for my entire life.