David Bowie - interviewed by Cees van Ede (1983)

Sinds 11 december 2015 is de succesvolle tentoonstelling 'David Bowie is' te zien in het Groninger Museum. Na Londen, Toronto, Sao Paulo, Berlijn, Chicago, Parijs en Melbourne worden in Groningen meer dan 300 objecten getoond uit het David Bowie Archief. Voor de NOS-filmrubriek Cinevisie mocht ik 32 jaar geleden een interview maken met The Man Who Fell to Earth, n.a.v. zijn rol in een andere, bijzondere film: Merry Christmas, Mr.Lawrence. Dit zijn een paar fragmenten uit dat programma.

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  • @ceesvanede3398
    @ceesvanede33988 жыл бұрын

    Right after the interview, instead of shaking hands, David Bowie embraced both my cameraman Mees van Deth and me. His relaxed generosity made a huge impression on us. In the early morning of January 11th, just half an hour before I heard the shocking news of Mr.Bowies death, I had a devestating nightmare, in which several elements of Blackstar played an important role. A strange kind of synchronicity.

  • @aphrospice

    @aphrospice

    8 жыл бұрын

    +Cees van Ede Thank you so much for sharing. And for this wonderful interview.

  • @paddy9i996

    @paddy9i996

    8 жыл бұрын

    +Cees van Ede Thanyou for uploading Cees, and giving some additional information about the interview.

  • @calanais06

    @calanais06

    8 жыл бұрын

    +Cees van Ede Thank you so much for sharing this wonderful interview, very interesting to hear his answers to your great questions about this heartwrenching movie. I have seldom seen him so relaxed in an interview. It must have been fascinating meeting him. He is so modest and graceful here, yet the greatest artist we have had in our lifetime. I went to see the exhibition in Groningen just a couple of weeks ago, I live in Sweden. It was very emotional and I found it hard to leave. And - a lot of people have told about having dreams, feeling a connection to or having a sudden interest in him at the time of passing, just as you. That is so very touching, as if his spirit reached for us all. His spirit will always be with us.

  • @norahherbie8537

    @norahherbie8537

    8 жыл бұрын

    may David rest in peace,what a gent!

  • @guruuDev

    @guruuDev

    8 жыл бұрын

    The deep state can see through walls with infrared and target people with directed microwaves to cause cancers or heart failure. They took out Lennon with bullets. Not sure if they wouldn't take out a rock star like Bowie for their own reasons. With all the false flags from 9/11 forward and more lately using crisis actors -- and the Patriot Act and FEMA camps and so on -- seems like something is on the way -- the stuff of nightmares. They say Nibiru is approaching and the Neocons are preparing. Blackstar may be vision or portent of a coming dark cataclysmic phase. On the much more positive side, thanks for the interview and sharing your behind the scenes experience of meeting a great artist like Bowie.

  • @Eris_Norregard
    @Eris_Norregard4 жыл бұрын

    The thing about Bowie was that if you let him lead the conversation into topics he was interested in and didn't try to trap him with 'scandalous' questions, it always resulted in the most interesting, funny, intelligent interviews. You can see how comfortable he felt here. The interviewer did an amazing job with keeping the right atmosphere. Also, the way he looked at Bowie and gave him his complete, undivided attention! I'm tepted to make a joke that this is like watching two people on their first date. :D

  • @ceesvanede3398

    @ceesvanede3398

    4 жыл бұрын

    Thanks for your kind commentary, Eris. I can assure you that it was not easy to be that close to David Bowie and not fall in love with him!

  • @aryastargirl5593

    @aryastargirl5593

    3 жыл бұрын

    Agreed. The interviewer treats him like a human being and a fellow conversationalist, not an object of oddity and outrage as some others did. Fantastic interview, Bowie looks so laid back and comfortable.

  • @bernadettewilliams8237

    @bernadettewilliams8237

    2 жыл бұрын

    I love the way he look so happy thanks so much for the video

  • @ahlamahlam8513

    @ahlamahlam8513

    Жыл бұрын

    منطقة مكه

  • @jackiebrown7077
    @jackiebrown70778 жыл бұрын

    What a wonderful and calm interview. No trying to trip Bowie up or ask him inappropriate questions. That's why he was so comfortable. Bravo! Loved it.

  • @ceesvanede3398

    @ceesvanede3398

    8 жыл бұрын

    Thanks, Jackie, your lovely remark made my day!

  • @jackiebrown7077

    @jackiebrown7077

    8 жыл бұрын

    You deserve it. This is my favourite interview. So classy.

  • @pleiadian13

    @pleiadian13

    8 жыл бұрын

    Mine too...

  • @lippiacitri

    @lippiacitri

    6 жыл бұрын

    agree

  • @pleiadian13
    @pleiadian138 жыл бұрын

    Here, there is a softening of his sharp edges. Gorgeous, intimate interview.

  • @MrLetmein2011
    @MrLetmein20118 жыл бұрын

    This is unlike any other interview with David that I have ever seen. No stupid questions about changing characters , its obvious David was enjoying the conversation and the intelligent questions.

  • @ahlamahlam8513

    @ahlamahlam8513

    Жыл бұрын

    آدم التفاحه

  • @ThinWhiteAxe
    @ThinWhiteAxe4 жыл бұрын

    What a wonderfully relaxed, charming Bowie -- and I've seen a few. "They're not very straight, bit they're the only ones I've got" -- Ha! David's teeth were the best, change my mind 😂

  • @elenachu9932
    @elenachu99328 жыл бұрын

    OMG!! He's so charming here. Wish he did more movies. He was quite a good actor. From the short scenes I've seen him in the Elephant Man, he was great!! Very believable...especially without makeup............ RIP, Mr. Jones.

  • @08CARIB
    @08CARIB7 жыл бұрын

    His vibe is very different in this interview, very relaxed

  • @nevicesaad9808
    @nevicesaad98088 жыл бұрын

    this is undoubtedly the most natural and endearing interview of David i have ever seen. your skills as an iinterviewer undoubtedly helped a naturally shy man to relax enough to offer honest and exceptionally vulnerable answers to some questions. you must consider yourself truly privileged \to have been in the presence of such a human being and humble star. thank you so much for sharing this gem of an interview and moment in time for you both. well done!

  • @ceesvanede3398

    @ceesvanede3398

    8 жыл бұрын

    It was a privilege indeed and an amazing experience. I loved every minute of it. Thanks for your wonderful comment.

  • @nevicesaad9808

    @nevicesaad9808

    8 жыл бұрын

    +Nevice Saad how lovely that he embraced you both. he really was a special, unfettered and unpretentious person. i never met him but he has been a constant part of my life through his music and his ideals. i miss him dreadfully. the world seems bland now without Mr Bowie's contributions. thank you once more for being real with him too and letting us see into his soul just ever so briefly.

  • @ahlamahlam8513

    @ahlamahlam8513

    Жыл бұрын

    الدعة الإستجمام

  • @piroschka6
    @piroschka65 жыл бұрын

    The energy between both men is just wonderful ...... especially in comparison to the interviews Russell Harty did with Bowie

  • @wheelerking8380
    @wheelerking83809 ай бұрын

    David Bowie is HANDS DOWN the most charming person in the history of persons

  • @madgemuso7314
    @madgemuso73143 жыл бұрын

    He’s just mesmerising isn’t he. That voice. Very interesting interview that respects his intelligence. You can see how he’s a little shy at first but then he relaxes into the interview due to the interesting questions.

  • @jazminratzlaff5357
    @jazminratzlaff535711 ай бұрын

    One of my fave interview of yours is with David Bowie. He looks so handsome in this, his blonde hair makes him look like a 1980’s leading man and tanned godlike rockstar. He is such a sweet, kind, gentle, sensitive creative soul and spirit. I could listen to him talk all day long. Love him in films, especially Merry Christmas Mr Lawrence. 😍🥰😘🤩 🌟 ✨ ❤♥️👑⚜️💎🏆

  • @Phantasia.Official
    @Phantasia.Official8 жыл бұрын

    Pop-Idol, Music Icon, Singer and songwriter, David Robert Jones, aka David Bowie, one of the most influential musicians of his era, has died 2 days after his birthday, of cancer at the age of 69, may he rest in peace. RIP David Bowie 10-1-2016.

  • @SkyePhoenix
    @SkyePhoenix2 жыл бұрын

    He was such a beautiful and talented man...

  • @luc1f3rrr_
    @luc1f3rrr_2 жыл бұрын

    This man is so handsome!

  • @GriefTourist
    @GriefTourist2 жыл бұрын

    Bowie was an underground act operating in the mainstream.

  • @april1969simnel
    @april1969simnel5 жыл бұрын

    I love watching Bowie interviews from outside of the US, and particularly European ones (although I think Americans Dinah Shore, Dick Cavett, and Flo and Eddie had good questions for him in their interviews). They seem like they were real conversations with people who were truly interested in what he had to say, even if he actually was promoting some work. He was so articulate, calm and thoughtful-and he had a lovely speaking voice. I could listen to him talk for hours. It's wonderful. I liked this interview very much. And I had to go into the previous paragraph just now and change every verb about him to be in the past tense. :(

  • @yvonnecampbell7036

    @yvonnecampbell7036

    4 жыл бұрын

    Ouch! He Loved life......."If I'll never see the English evergreens I’m running to, It’s nothing to me, It’s nothing to see. I’m dying to........" always chokes me up.

  • @ThinWhiteAxe

    @ThinWhiteAxe

    4 жыл бұрын

    Heartbreaking.

  • @kaori_kanzaki
    @kaori_kanzaki Жыл бұрын

    The video quality is excellent that it looks like it's recorded in early 2000s instead of 1983!

  • @deetee9611
    @deetee96116 жыл бұрын

    Cracking interview, I think he would of loved the subject matter instead of the generic b/s he constantly got. Hats off to the interviewer.

  • @norahherbie8537
    @norahherbie85378 жыл бұрын

    what a beautiful man!miss you always David

  • @bjm2670
    @bjm2670 Жыл бұрын

    Door dit interview ben ik Bowie fan geworden. En nu 40 jaar later ben ik dat nog steeds. Geweldig interview. En hij is zo slim en welbespraakt. Zo rustig en god vergeten knap.

  • @yerterb7135
    @yerterb71358 ай бұрын

    fantastisch rustig intelligent interview, met ruimte voor zijpaden en toch niet warrig. heel fijn om te zien. miijn complimenten!

  • @TheVideoChatter
    @TheVideoChatter8 жыл бұрын

    Bowie's interviews were always so mentally stimulating and insightful. This is definitely one of them. Well done!

  • @Marcaribe863
    @Marcaribe863 Жыл бұрын

    He was a free soul.

  • @burpie3258
    @burpie32588 жыл бұрын

    Great interviewer! Wish there were more like him!

  • @andrewmawhinney1347
    @andrewmawhinney13473 жыл бұрын

    Tremendous interview. A super relaxed Bowie and Cees van Ede brought out the best in him here. Fantasic.

  • @TheSusieTom
    @TheSusieTom7 жыл бұрын

    Love the joke about his teeth! My mum always loved his teeth!

  • @yvonnecampbell7036

    @yvonnecampbell7036

    4 жыл бұрын

    I still love his "baby wolf teeth".

  • @ThinWhiteAxe

    @ThinWhiteAxe

    4 жыл бұрын

    His teeth were fabulous.

  • @TinyDancer250

    @TinyDancer250

    3 жыл бұрын

    So sexy!!

  • @pennyc7064

    @pennyc7064

    3 жыл бұрын

    Yes loved his teeth but he got them fixed later on.

  • @stationtostation8311
    @stationtostation8311 Жыл бұрын

    He has such brilliant way with words and its insightful to hear him articulate his thoughts.

  • @_bergflow
    @_bergflow4 жыл бұрын

    what an absolute beaut of an interview, thank you Cees

  • @Eris_Norregard

    @Eris_Norregard

    4 жыл бұрын

    The chemistry between the two is wonderful in this interview. You can see how much they actually enjoyed talking to each other, and it led to some great topics.

  • @yvonnecampbell7036
    @yvonnecampbell70367 жыл бұрын

    Dankjewel Cees. In een droom had ik als gewone burger een leuk gesprek met hem, haha. We hadden het over interresses en kwamen op architectuur terecht. Ik haalde Tadao Ando aan. Het grappige is dat ik laatst een foto van zijn koffietafel thuis zag en daar lag een boek van Ando op. Over synchronicity gesproken. Ik zag altijd de David achter de artiest Bowie. Bowie was zijn werk, de entertainer. Hij was totaal anders. Gr. Yf.

  • @tashazalinski5250
    @tashazalinski52506 жыл бұрын

    funny and endearing. both come off wonderfully from this

  • @Nik831
    @Nik8318 жыл бұрын

    Wat een geweldig interview. Ik heb er met zoveel plezier naar gekeken....Bowie was volgens mij een onzettende aardige en relaxte man. Wat een geluk om hem te mogen interviewen.

  • @funleader9397

    @funleader9397

    5 жыл бұрын

    Eyooo Nederlander 👨‍🎤👨‍🎤

  • @yuko8367
    @yuko83678 жыл бұрын

    I like this interview piece most among other David Bowie interviews I've seen thus far. He seems so relaxed and I guess your demeanor played one part to make him so comfortable. Great job!

  • @LaurentCarty
    @LaurentCarty7 жыл бұрын

    Remarkable and brilliant way to lead an interview, one of the most interesting I've seen in ages. Thanks a lot.

  • @diwnhs
    @diwnhs2 жыл бұрын

    He always wears his cross..

  • @dw1232
    @dw12323 жыл бұрын

    Great interview!

  • @pennyc7064
    @pennyc70643 жыл бұрын

    Great interview. Thanks for sharing this.

  • @simonjamesyoung8091
    @simonjamesyoung80912 жыл бұрын

    Lovely, calm interview Very grounded and comfortable

  • @hazelwray5307
    @hazelwray53074 жыл бұрын

    Lord Snowdon photographed Bowie for the September 1978 edition of Vogue, which featured an interview by Johnathan Mantle. For some of the shoot a classically poised David Bowie donned the same look as Cees van ede, seen here in 1983.

  • @ceesvanede3398

    @ceesvanede3398

    4 жыл бұрын

    Hazel Wray In hindsight I regret that I didn’t put on my yellow tie, Hazel. Unfortunately, I never saw the Snowdon photos before I checked them today on internet. It is striking indeed. I admire your alertness, and love the coïncidence.

  • @hazelwray5307

    @hazelwray5307

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@ceesvanede3398 Thank you for the positive reply. Concerning the yellow tie - it might have necessitated the removal of your socks...Bowie isn't wearing any in the photoshoot, haha.

  • @pleiadian13
    @pleiadian138 жыл бұрын

    Cees, I read the other comments and find they are all impressed as I was with the sensitivity and intelligence of the discussion. 2 weeks after hearing of his passing I had a dream where he showed me this soft side he kept hidden. I written down if you want to read it. Since then I've been especially interested in finding evidence of it in his interviews.Seeing it almost for the first time here as he was in my dream I am touched, thank you for however you managed to magic it to life for us. You were also very charming and he was responding to you.

  • @burpie3258

    @burpie3258

    8 жыл бұрын

    +pleiadian13 I'd love to hear about your dream

  • @andalltheangelssay212

    @andalltheangelssay212

    3 жыл бұрын

    Can you stil remember the dream?

  • @fattidiliberta
    @fattidiliberta8 жыл бұрын

    +Cees van Ede: thank you....

  • @tobiasisback4605
    @tobiasisback46055 ай бұрын

    They are flirting like mad! ❤

  • @petervandosselaar4968
    @petervandosselaar49683 жыл бұрын

    Funny to know that two small parts of your interview ended up on a Single Sided 7" Flexi-disc that was included in a fanzine "David Bowie Rotterdam 1983" that was given away for free during the June 25th and 26th concerts in the Feyenoord Stadium "De Kuip". Of course I've kept the disc all this time :-)

  • @ceesvanede3398

    @ceesvanede3398

    3 жыл бұрын

    I didn’t know this about a flexi-disc. Cool! Funny to hear about it almost forty years later!

  • @jostasteenbekkers5620
    @jostasteenbekkers56202 жыл бұрын

    Prachtig gewoon Bowie zag jou en jij zag Bowie! Lesmateriaal!

  • @lella_f
    @lella_f Жыл бұрын

    Bellissimissimo!!!!💕❤️⚡️⚡️

  • @felixthelmocevallosmorales41
    @felixthelmocevallosmorales41 Жыл бұрын

    DAVID ROBERT JONES 08 DE ENERO DE 1947 10 DE ENERO DE 2016 76 AÑOS 69 AÑOS 07 AÑOS

  • @peteyoung7665
    @peteyoung76652 жыл бұрын

    He would still be here if he wouldn’t have smoked for 50 years.You can tell already in 83 that he had a bad cigarette cough.But i totally understand.Stop smoking is pretty much impossible if you really put everything you got in to it.I have tried to stop for 17 years but haven’t been able to it’s just so damn hard even though it doesn’t make any sense to smoke because it doesn’t do anything except damage your lungs.At least you get a buzz from smoking weed but with cigarettes nothing.

  • @supernena23gomez43
    @supernena23gomez432 жыл бұрын

    ❤️😍👍

  • @lenovovo
    @lenovovo4 жыл бұрын

    I love this interview. David Bowie looking as handsome as ever. And I might add, The host, the interviewer, is looking pretty handsome as well. There's no doubt in my mind that there was a sexual attraction between these two lovely guys in this interview, you can just feel it and see it. They were most definitely flirting with each other in this interview. Just check out the body language between these two handsome guys in this interview and their tone of voice when they talk to one another. To be quite honest, this interview is pretty hot. This interview made me feel a little naughty. I'm sure they hooked up after the interview, and I don't blame them at all!!! Thanks for posting this video. I enjoyed it thoroughly. Have a great day!!! :-)

  • @mariaeugeniacortina5721
    @mariaeugeniacortina57213 жыл бұрын

    Genius! Stardust! Camaleón ..... Del rOck....

  • @shatzoren1
    @shatzoren13 жыл бұрын

    This is lovely, yet Bowie's reluctance of writing music for a film in which he acts is at odds with some of Station to Station's recordings' original designation as soundtrack to Man who Fell to Earth, as discussed in his November 1975 interview with Russell Harty.

  • @user-ky6fe4ku5g
    @user-ky6fe4ku5g9 ай бұрын

    Smoking is a mugs game.. So sad to see him puffing away, literally hastening his demise..

  • @pinkstone9848
    @pinkstone98482 жыл бұрын

    Why'd he never talking about how he was creating song?

  • @fabioabilio
    @fabioabilio3 жыл бұрын

    Bowie is ALWAYS smoking!!

  • @jostasteenbekkers5620
    @jostasteenbekkers56202 жыл бұрын

    It looks like David is trying to seduce cees! And if he isn't he is doing his audience!🤩😍

  • @1992girlll
    @1992girlll3 жыл бұрын

    Misschien een beetje stom om er zomaar in te vragen maar ik las net op een soort van Anubis wikipedia dat Ewout Winsbrugge Hennegouwen door een zekere Cees van Ede word gespeeld. Ben jij dat?

  • @ceesvanede3398

    @ceesvanede3398

    3 жыл бұрын

    Helaas moet ik je teleurstellen. Ik heb zelfs nooit iets van dat Anubis gezien. Dat neemt niet weg dat ik die Cees van Ede dolgraag weleens zou willen ontmoeten. Ik zag alleen een schilderij van Ewout WH; heb jij wellicht een foto van hem?

  • @1992girlll

    @1992girlll

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@ceesvanede3398 Ik heb verder ook geen informatie. Misschien was het wel een fout en staat er perongeluk de verkeerde naam er staan wel vaker de verkeerde namen bij de verkeerde acteurs op het internet. Ik denk dat als je gewoon de naam van het karakter intypt en Het Huis Anubis intypt dan krijg je foto´s te zien.

  • @mrengulfeddirector
    @mrengulfeddirector8 жыл бұрын

    Don't want to sing in the works you act in, eh? Absolute Beginners? Underground? New Angels of Promise?

  • @mrengulfeddirector

    @mrengulfeddirector

    8 жыл бұрын

    +Olaf Peter I know - it's just interesting how quickly that philosophy changed. But I guess you wouldn't expect anything less from the chameleon of rock :)

  • @oliveeisner8964

    @oliveeisner8964

    6 жыл бұрын

    mrengulfeddirector. Also he had worked with Paul Buckmaster in LA on music for the Man Who Fell To Earth. It exists somewhere locked in a vault. Some of it ended up on the Low album. I guess he didn't want to talk about it. bad memories?

  • @raznatovicanastasija
    @raznatovicanastasija2 жыл бұрын

    Look at his zubalo.

  • @christinefarquhar2858
    @christinefarquhar2858 Жыл бұрын

    Masrilj

  • @user-ud8ib4vx8g
    @user-ud8ib4vx8g7 ай бұрын

    Steffanhoffman 'whatever you said about bowie '''''''your wrong man 'bowies songs and his looks are absolute brilliant 'you now nothing about bowie 'jour a sad gnome 😮

  • @ahlamahlam8513
    @ahlamahlam8513 Жыл бұрын

    العائلة الإبراهيم

  • @christinefarquhar2858
    @christinefarquhar2858 Жыл бұрын

    Cnm

  • @steffanhoffmann
    @steffanhoffmann11 ай бұрын

    I thought he changed his persona in every interview I saw. I didn't like him. He was self centred and attention seeking. He plagiarised so many but accepted the legendary status. He was an ordinary actor. He re-invented it is said; but he couldn't re-invent death

  • @ceesvanede3398

    @ceesvanede3398

    11 ай бұрын

    Everyone has a right to express his / her personal opinion about someone of course, Steffan, but then allow me to say that I find your reaction a bit silly (in order to avoid the word: stupid). Maybe you yourself could try to re-invent death. Who knows?

  • @steffanhoffmann

    @steffanhoffmann

    11 ай бұрын

    @@ceesvanede3398 I never professed I could; unlike that gents idiosyncratic statements. He changed direction like the wind, depending on who was interviewing him. A charlatan in my opinion. I'm certainly not stupid; and far better educated than Mister Jones, I assure you. The Let's Dance phase, brought him to the general public. He'd outgrown the use; of the arty type. He'd become David Vegas. It was detrimental, as his follow up "Tonight" bombed. He never fully recovered; and probably regretted it. His Tin Machine phase tried to recover it; and I liked that. However after that; he just was appraised, for his legacy. A greatest hits package indeed. He'd dried up. His last 2 efforts were bloody awful.

  • @steffanhoffmann

    @steffanhoffmann

    11 ай бұрын

    @@ceesvanede3398 Looking at your interview again, to see if I am somewhat stupid. I would say I'm not. I understand your behaviour towards him. Similar age group; just a few months apart. However like other interviewers before; or since, you get drawn in by whichever character he likes to play. Jonathan Ross, years later, was probably the biggest fan boy, however I'd say he's not that clever. I'll discount 🇺🇸 interviewers if I'm allowed to, for reasons I'll not say. (I might get a warning bla de bla) In this interview, he was soft and gentle, understanding David. Understating his importance. We tend to forget, do we not, he was high on something or other; before he met Iman. Don't be offended, that I think he conned you. After all, you are somewhat famous also. So perhaps I hurt your ego. What I've never seen from interviewers, is to challenge him. 1. Who did he copy? ((Syd Barrett etc up to Space Oddity) Syd being out of the way etc. 2. Why does he not give credit for his plagiarism? Instead accept false accolades, about uniqueness. 3. Why did Mick Ronson propel him to fame? (Because for years he was getting nowhere) 4. Does he think without Brian Eno, he'd not have progressed to the next phase? 5. Does he think he's a good actor, as most reviews thought he wasn't. 6. Why does he take over all his interviews, with various characters, not really listening properly. I'll leave it like that. But you get my drift. Nonetheless, I'll wish you a good day. 🇬🇧 🤝 🇳🇱

  • @jasonmee3374

    @jasonmee3374

    10 ай бұрын

    @@steffanhoffmann Your just a common Troll,who thinks he is clever

  • @steffanhoffmann

    @steffanhoffmann

    10 ай бұрын

    @@jasonmee3374 And you're not as you said your instead of you're. 😂 Now sod off

  • @sdwindycitygirl
    @sdwindycitygirl8 жыл бұрын

    another inept interviewer.... "wait", "seriously", "listen"

  • @yvonnecampbell7036

    @yvonnecampbell7036

    4 жыл бұрын

    No, that is just typically Dutch. They say those words in their phrases. Doesn't really mean anything. It would be like Wacht ff, nee echt and oké luister. Just like in a natural conversation and David clearly found it amusing.

  • @jurjenvanderhoek316

    @jurjenvanderhoek316

    2 жыл бұрын

    Words like that only have meaning in context. You can clearly see from David's reaction and mood that he likes the interview and feels relaxed. He does not look annoyed or surprised at all when these words are used. That means that he understood the intention of them in their context, but you did not.