Dark Truth of the Children of The Forrest and Harrenhal | Hidden Secrets of House of the Dragon
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House of the Dragon Season 2 has taken us to the Riverlands and Harrenhal and there are some very interesting things going on around the Gods Eye. In this video I dive deep into the Lore to see whats really going on at Harrenhal with Daemon Targaeyn and Alys Rivers. Daemon and Alys are both in Harrenhal and Daemon is having weirwood dreams but is Alys there meddling with Daemon in the same way that Jojen meddled with Bran, Or in the way The Ghost of High Heart meddled with Prince Duncan and Jaehereys and Rhaegar Targaryen? Have the children of the forest been trying to fulfill prophecy as well, and when did it start? This video will contain spoilers from Fire & Blood.
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@cherylbaxter8986
19 күн бұрын
Always
@GrayArea
19 күн бұрын
@@cherylbaxter8986thank you!
@lawrencereid2767
19 күн бұрын
Your the best
@madyjules
19 күн бұрын
this was an absolute masterpiece, Gray!!! love your theory videos
@DLNOT425
19 күн бұрын
Excellent job!
I also believe caraxes surviving and pulling himself ashore is meant to be a hint that daemon survives.
@Sisyphus-rq5ew
17 күн бұрын
Yeah but didn’t daemon leap of caraxes he probably did just get washed away on impact as he was strapped down
@brooklyncurrys
14 күн бұрын
@@jesseandersen4055 It’d make more sense for him not to, after all that and his pride of his house he wouldn’t just “disappear” nor do I see the show having him “Ending up with nettles in secret”
@alissabaker9784
14 күн бұрын
@@brooklyncurrysdid you see the video of nettles being leaf and daemon potentially being a blood raven? It's pretty convincing!
@jesseandersen4055
13 күн бұрын
@brooklyncurrys based on the fact that he disappears at the isle of faces, the fact that his great grandson is the greenseer before bran, his body is never found, the parallels between him and bloodraven, and the seemingly bloody weirwood paste he drinks at Harrenhall which really seems to parallel jojen paste I think there's a chance he is the greenseer before blood raven.
@aminiqbal4907
11 күн бұрын
@jesseandersen4055 this
Love the way you explain and break everything down
@GrayArea
19 күн бұрын
Thank you❤️
The scream I let out when Alisha started doing the Ghost of High Heart voice 😂😂😂 I was unprepared but loved every second
@GrayArea
19 күн бұрын
She does it so gooooood!
@khalilflemming9753
19 күн бұрын
Yoooo 😂😂
@KJ-4-Chiefs
18 күн бұрын
Thst was fire
@nonfiction9849
15 күн бұрын
Yassss!
This is a pretty good theory. However, you're forgetting something about visions and dreams within the world of ice and fire. They're never cut and dry. They are usually fragmented and very much open to interpretation. Melisandre says as much when she brings John back to life. It's likely that Alys didn't tell Aemond about his death simply because she didn't know about it. I do agree with your theory about Nettles being Leaf and Daemon surviving and becoming the 3 eyed raven. Blood Raven had to be trained by somebody himself, and Daemon makes sense. They're basically the same person, and I don't believe that's a coincidence on GRRM's part.
You always have the best analysis. Please forgive me for saying this, but your voice is so lovely, soothing, relaxing. Thank you for all that you do.🙏🏽[edited for grammar]
@GrayArea
19 күн бұрын
Wow, thank you!
@lanaaugustine8117
19 күн бұрын
Didn't daemon have a crown of wood on his head
@thehappyolive
19 күн бұрын
Amen to that!
@aegontargaryen9322
18 күн бұрын
I know what you mean GrayAreas voice is soooo relaxing . I could listen all day long
Who else gets excited every time there’s a new video up? Gray Area is the David Attenborough of game of thrones 😂 goat of narrating
@DJaney
18 күн бұрын
TOTALLY! I get almost as excited to watch @GrayArea Queen Gray's new videos as I do for the actual next HOD episode (almost!) Queen Gray Area forever!!
This storyline about Daemon Aemond & Alys is the most fascinating to me. From Daemon’s whole demeanor change to Aemond being almost like under a spell. Glad to see the show go the mystical route & mentioning Daemon’s dreams. I hope the show continues the magic & dreams. Who knows maybe at the end Daemon will end up as the 3 eyed crow
I love the magical elements of GoT. There's such an air of mystique about them due to how unexplored they are.
If Daemon did become the 3 eyed crow before blood raven maybe they meet in the north like bran met blood raven and Daemon-crow gets bloodraven to trust him by telling him not to cut him down with his own sword. I just want more Dark Sister lore.
@littleozarksfarmstead
18 күн бұрын
What if Daemon became the Night King? Blood Raven being Daemon's "Night King's Hand" beyond The Wall.
JS....George R. R. Martin admitted that his favorite Targaryen is indeed Daemon, and he briefly went into detail as to what made Daemon stand out to him so significantly. It's common for authors to become attached to their characters regardless of how they're written, and regardless of what the Targaryens have done throughout the Game of Thrones universe, Martin has admitted that Daemon stands out above the rest.
@SouthernPioneer1965
19 күн бұрын
Exactly.. so why would he give him such a non important death. So uneventful. I think Grey is into something for sure .
@user-gs4th6qp9p
18 күн бұрын
@@SouthernPioneer1965 absolutely
Say what you will about Ep 03, but I am LIVING for all this Harrenhal content. It's my personal favourite Westerosi castle and it's full of lore and mystery, and I'm glad it's getting the love it deserves. I love the cinematography of season 2 as well, it really adds to Harrenhal's character, this hauntingly beautiful castle
The Alisha cameo made me spit out my coffee in public. Y’all are wild Gray!
Expert level theory crafting as usual! ❤️❤️❤️ Add to this the crown Daemon wore that he gave up to Viserys… foreshadowing if it was made out of weirwood but maybe it was just some other substance. I love the idea of the Rogue Prince being the next 3 Eyed Raven… that children of the forest cave that Arienne finds could have been used in the show, like if they lose the Long Night at Winterfell and flee to regroup in that cave network at the God’s Eye… just random thoughts…
@GrayArea
19 күн бұрын
@@brothercharlesjohnson I DIDNT EVEN THINK OF THAT!
@brothercharlesjohnson
18 күн бұрын
@@GrayArea this is high praise coming from you… I mentioned something you didn’t think about! Wow. Honestly I’m star struck cause you’re a whole Archmaester of the Citidel with your theory crafting and knowledge… I’m just honored to be your sweet summer child and along for the ride! I always enjoy your videos after I watch the show episodes I am so full afterwards gorging myself on the lore! You always give us the juice to get through the Long Night! ❤️❤️
I agree Nettles will be in the show. They've teased her in the bars and brothels in each season. She walks in before Ulf you see her black curly hair from behind.
@fortelewisandrew2426
19 күн бұрын
My choice for Nettles is Delaney Hayles who played Claudia so masterfully in season 2 of Interview with the Vampire 🧛♂️. I saw some familiar character traits of this beloved fan favorite especially during her ill-fated trial. Her chemistry with Matt Smith would be palpable to see on screen.
@Elle-tb8ti
18 күн бұрын
@@fortelewisandrew2426Yes!!!!!!
@ianneufville3789
17 күн бұрын
Wacth the seen again you see the girl in the window drop a sack of gold coins to a girl that is waiting who hands the sack to the girl with the black curls you are talking about she walks past ulf into the ale house , that was prostitutes of the ale house ether whoring or stealing from a customer.
@brittney4u932
15 күн бұрын
I love this!!!
Another amazing video. Loved the special shoutout to the OG grayarea stans from 2018 about Melisandre being from hardhome!!!
@lyannatargaryen3223
13 күн бұрын
Yes, I remember that video, brilliant! She's so good at putting the pieces together from all throughout the timeline and bloodlines. Also, pretty sure she cracked the code with the prophecies surrounding Dany.
Love that you connected Meera's "you died in that cave" with Alys' line. Makes so much sense. Fingers crossed you're right !
It's the dragon blood Alys Rivers like not Aemond himself. The Prince that was Promised has to be equal blood of fire and blood of Ice. Basically a child of Targaryen and Stark.
@SouthernPioneer1965
19 күн бұрын
It would make sense considering if the knight king was a stark to begin with. Then his blood and the blood of the dragon mix, because we already know Targharyen blood has magic bonded to it .
Alys River giving Melisandre vibes for sure! And Daemon having green seer abilities. 😮...🤯..yes ❤
@maliceinwonderland00
19 күн бұрын
Well if Alys Rivers is 400 years old potentially. Melisandre was 400 in GOT so that can't be her. Although it's possible I think it's someone similar to melisandre but not Melisandre herself. Although how cool would it be if it was Melisandre!
@heartlesslove9084
18 күн бұрын
@@maliceinwonderland00she is not melisandre but according to actress alys is 400 years old.
@maliceinwonderland00
18 күн бұрын
@@heartlesslove9084 Yes of course I was not disagreeing with you just adding to it.
You are my truest north to guide me through the night! Top three fave channels of all time for me. Thank you, diva!!!
Best GOT/HOTD KZreadr hands DOWN!!
@GrayArea
19 күн бұрын
Thank you so much for the compliment. Lots of giants out there!
@Nooooooooooooooooooooo7913
19 күн бұрын
@@GrayArea and you definitely stand out among them
It’s crazy, this man (Harren the black) built probably the greatest castle Westeros (maybe even the world depending on what the five forts are truly like) had ever seen and didn’t build not one, NOT ONE dragon crossbow (those big crossbow looking things used to kill dragons used by Cersei, Euron and even the Greens on the latest episode of HOTD). During a time when a family still had known dragons in the world. The man deserved what he got lol
@Smarterthanyew
18 күн бұрын
Scorpions
What a treat and way 2 start a day.Getting a proper vid from Gray theory is solid love it,love it. ❤ 💯
Clicked as fast as I could. I have been waiting for more of Gray's LORE! Aka=facts!Ty
@aworldofmoirairene7655
19 күн бұрын
😂 RIGHT SAME!!
@babushka_OG
19 күн бұрын
A dragon having a weirwood dream. I do get entirely too excited about that for some reason. 🤣
Girl, your interpretations are top notch! Makes me see things in a totally new way and i love every minute of it.
Bran should've never left the Tree, He was meant to be The Three-Eyed Raven, not the king. He was neither physically nor mentally fit to be king. His body was broken and his mind stayed in the Tree, even after his body was taken out. Westeros should've been Rulerless for a generation.
@kjeneen79
16 күн бұрын
Bran had no choice in leaving the tree. The Night King and white walkers and the army of the dead were literally chasing him.
I absolutely LOVE this Daemon theory. If they show him survive or transcend in the show(I don't think they will). I will freak out!
@efrent-vr3bm
19 күн бұрын
I like GrayArea’s Daemon theory too, but on the show Alys Rivers already prophesied he will die near that weirwood tree
@samanthaashley2505
18 күн бұрын
@@efrent-vr3bm true. i would die if they made it a metaphorical "death" and embraced the more magical elements of the story but it seems less likely. at the same time it would be so ironic given daemon's practicality and total disregard for viserys' belief in prophecy
@tiffanyd124
15 күн бұрын
@@efrent-vr3bmyeah but it was the kind of “ you will die “ like “ you died in that cave”
There is SO MUCH content in this videoooo. Mother is WORKING.
I love your content girl, u always make my day !
This has been the most awesome "story" from these books, that I've ever experienced! You my dear, are a true Story Teller! I've never sat and just listened to somebody telling such a great story. Your insight for these books is otherworldly! Hail to you Lady Gray. I think you are 100% correct about Daemon. Wow! Thankyou❤
Yo the voices you guys make when you're reading captions just tickle me! 😂😂😂
If Nettles is Leaf and she tells him about the Song of Ice & Fire that Rhaenyra name drops that could convince him to change course to the threat in the north
if the children didn't take kindly to r'lhor, what did they think of the foreigners from valyria who worshipped their own set of gods? if the ghost of high heart is indeed a child of the forest, why did she tell a targaryen king that his descendant will become the prince who was promised, which is a prophecy that came from the worshippers of the red god. if the children hate r'lhor, why did one of them gave directions to the targaryens? what were they really planning? and why is she mad that arya?
@GrayArea
19 күн бұрын
I think they just don’t like their fire magic and their magic doesn’t work in the Riverlands. Which is why she says you won’t See anything here. Well the only ones that brought the andals to heel were the Valyrians
@xa25ja
19 күн бұрын
Great questions!
You, bridge4 and Alt Shift X are THE best in the ASOIAF universe! Top level top quality 👍👍👍
I KNEW it was coming!!! I’m so happy the show is giving us what we need. Thank you as always :)
Good shit with the Arya and Leahanna connection.... That scene never sat right with me and IK it was super important. If Leaf was Nettles might Jenny or The Ghost be her and Daemons child? Didn't GRRM say Prince Daemon is one of or his favorite characters along with Blood Raven?
You always explore the good stuff. Thanks for that.
@GrayArea
19 күн бұрын
My pleasure!
This was a great video. Love how knowledgeable you are about the deep lore. Definitely curious to how Daemon’s story plays out. I took Alys words to mean the show was taking the most simple route. We’ve talked about him before and while my theory is a lot simpler than yours I do believe it holds merit.
@GrayArea
19 күн бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it! Theories are what makes the wait fun! Doesnt have to be true! But the fact it could be is fun af!!!! LFG we are so back
Really enjoying the new content and I’m so glad that you’re back. You really have helped me understand so much about this story/world and I love hearing your theories. Thank you. ❤️🐉
Girl that was a video!! Got the gears in my head working lmao
My day has been made! I've been waiting on this vid! 😆
You ALWAYS !! Gives us the legit Tea!!! I love Teflon just as much as
I am so excited to see what they do with Alys Rivers because she is such an enigma in the book. I bet she and Larys are working together on some weirwood magic scheme. They grew up in Harrenhall hearing the whispers of the dead weirdwoods... and isn't it strange how Alys takes Aemond's "seed" and then both he and Daemon conveniently take each other out? so many mysteries
Such an amazing and informative vid. Thanks ❤
Rhaegar corresponding with Aemon till the near bitter end of a many centuries long watch, pass that baton Targaryens
This is good story telling! And dope interpretations!!
Crazy conclusion this was something I was speculating as soon as harrenhall was mentioned so much in season 1 and the lastest episodes
Always perfection! I've been watching you since 2016 -2017❤
You are the absolute best! Brilliant!! Thank you for helping us understand the lore on a deep level!!
I’m with you on these theories Gray!!! Love it, excellent work as always!
First Men has always been too vague a term. I'm of the thought that CotF blood is more important. House Massey is ancient. So old a house that an entire geographic area is named for them - Massey's Hook. And their sigil: you don't get a sigil that corresponds to the Trident for no good reason. And you definitely don't get one corresponding to a Triskelion, one of the most ancient symbols in human history, for no good reason. They are as likely a candidate to have CotF blood in them as any other FM house.
@GrayArea
19 күн бұрын
Can’t wait for your video!!!!
Love this channel!
This was awesome. Many thanks❤
@GrayArea
19 күн бұрын
Thank you so much! More juice to come!
May I just say, you have the most soothing voice!
Awesome video Gray!!!! Always love your content but mix in some old gods weirwood shit and I’m mmwwaaa, give Jadakiss
I love your story telling. So good to listen to. Thankyou❤
Thank you Gray 4 coming back and explaining......you've always gave a true narrative. So glad you're back 😀
I love these videos so much
Girl I have missed you so much!!
Thanks for this upload!
AWESOME video!! 🙌🏻👏🏻
Always insightful, Thank you for the commentary
This was the perfect accompaniment for tonight’s episode!
61 yr old Rastaman Fan... first time responding just letting you know you're doing an excellent job very entertaining
@GrayArea
19 күн бұрын
Thank you!
Great work Gray; this is 🔥
@GrayArea
19 күн бұрын
Thanks 🔥
I loved this very much. I think this is a good theory and I hope we find out this season!
I think so too. Death is only the beginning
Brilliant as usual! Thank you for keeping the juice fresh and plentiful! I miss the opening of the wolf howling.
Great video!
I can't believe you got Alisha to do the voice. I was not expecting that.
I could listen to you tell these stories all day.
I really hope we get that Aemond bastard baby subplot. Maybe merge it with the Gaemon Palehair plot
Omg. Thank you Alisha for that cameo. I needed that surprise today 😂😂😂
The actress portraying Alys Rivers delivers an outstanding performance, skillfully embodying the character with depth and nuance. Her ability to match Matt Smith’s on-screen presence is particularly impressive, showcasing her talent and elevating their scenes together. Her portrayal of the mysterious, magical, and eerie witch is captivating, making her a breakout star and a standout in the series.
@GrayArea Bravo!! FINALLY AND THANK YOU
I think we should wait for confirmations of theories to come directly from George, not Ryan Condal Great video as always
Absolutely loved this!!!!
You are awesome. HBO should pay you to do this🖤💚
So good, Gray!! Thank you. 🙌🙌🫶
Stellar video as always Gray, love yew ❤ and can we get a round of applause for our Ghost of High Heart baddie 👏🏽
Fantastic discussion & analysis!
A tremendous video!
Great video.
So... Alys is Mother's Milk?!... The Boys crossover confirmed!
I was not ready for the voice 😂😂😂…. Good job tho 👏🏾lol
So good! I love your theory videos even as a non book reader ❤️
I love your passion when telling this story
I love your voice. You explain it so well
🙌 made my day!!!!
Woo, thanks for the tea, Gray! And yes... I'm an OG GrayArea watcher!!! 😉
I bet there's a room in the Winchester mansion with no windows or doors, sealed closed with just a toilet.
Daemon not strapping in isn't a sign of any prophetic knowledge, it's just that he has his strategy pre planned to suicide dive on Aemond. Maybe he was willing to do that because of the prophecy tho idk
Lovely, thank you Grey ❤
Excellent video! Well done!🇨🇦
I just want Grey to read me bedtime stories. Iown give a damn if it's Lama Lama..baby Lama or whatever Glorilla said. Like I know George's writings, from front to back...but it why it sounds so soothing when she reads it. I close my eyes like... hell yeah they all burned😢 keep going😅
Girl... I hate Sundays but... we have some HotD and then you right after. I wait till a little later to watch because I know you'll have a recap video. You are Targaryen gold.
Thank you for making sense of the lore and explaining how the conflict in Westeros came to be.
I love this!
I Lovee ur voice , it’s really the only channel I can stan when taking on got or hod ,I think tho it’s cuz “they not like us “ tho love uuuuuu , u need to go audio books fr, sincerely a new summer child 🩷
Hmmmmm... nice job with this - but you sparked a thought. We never did find out who Cold Hands is... was... whatever. Is it possible that he could be the Prince of Dragonflies? Duncan himself? It would sort of fit with this theme/thread you are weaving.... wouldn't it?
@rai2423
19 күн бұрын
Isn’t the point that he could be anybody? The answer is in the next book. There isn’t enough information to really make a theory or come to a conclusion. You gotta wait for George to finally release that book 🤷♂️😂