Dark Depths got broken again... - Modern Horizons 3

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Can you believe it, Wizards broke Dark Depths again thanks to Mutated Cultist from MH3 Commander.
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  • @graog123
    @graog123Ай бұрын

    How can you NOT think of Dark Depths when printing that!? There's simply no way that this interaction wasn't their express intent

  • @attackoncardboard

    @attackoncardboard

    Ай бұрын

    It's just 30 power worth of creatures on Turn 2 while exile-ing both your lands and being near uncounterable 😂

  • @qedproqwo1634

    @qedproqwo1634

    Ай бұрын

    Also shifting woodlands

  • @ameliaward7429

    @ameliaward7429

    Ай бұрын

    Oh, you still believe that actual people are playtesting cards. That is kinda sad tbh.

  • @androkguz

    @androkguz

    Ай бұрын

    Legacy is broken in a myriad ways. You don't playtest for legacy. You just let different broken things duke it out and *maybe* you ban something if it becomes a problem

  • @kage9543

    @kage9543

    Ай бұрын

    I think they made this card as a way to interact with energy counters since they brought that back

  • @whosilence
    @whosilenceАй бұрын

    Turn 0 gemstone caverns Turn 1 depths, dark ritual, cultist

  • @attackoncardboard

    @attackoncardboard

    Ай бұрын

    The things you can do in Magical Xmas land! 😂

  • @bricknolty5478

    @bricknolty5478

    Ай бұрын

    ​@attackoncardboard That's only 5 cards in your opening hand, vs your scenario of 5 cards in your opening hand + 1 draw step

  • @marcoottina654

    @marcoottina654

    25 күн бұрын

    ​@@bricknolty5478so you mean ... 4 cards In Both cases?

  • @bricknolty5478

    @bricknolty5478

    25 күн бұрын

    @@marcoottina654 exactly, they're both Magical Christmas Land lol

  • @user-qw3oh3dx1o

    @user-qw3oh3dx1o

    17 күн бұрын

    Tbh I turn 5 dark depths all the time and all it does is have someone work indestructible on a token which is easier done than said

  • @gozmit97
    @gozmit97Ай бұрын

    Not to mention the Woodlands can copy depths, sacrifice itself dur to having no counters and also getting you Marit Lage

  • @attackoncardboard

    @attackoncardboard

    Ай бұрын

    It's all coming together...

  • @kylecote7261

    @kylecote7261

    Ай бұрын

    Mirror box, Marit Lage Tribal

  • @WitchingMoon88

    @WitchingMoon88

    27 күн бұрын

    Legend rule. Good thought though

  • @WitchingMoon88

    @WitchingMoon88

    27 күн бұрын

    Mirror Box would work

  • @jiaan100

    @jiaan100

    24 күн бұрын

    ​@@WitchingMoon88 The other dark depths is in your gy, legend rule doesn't stop this. Legend rule applies when you copy depths with thespians stage, but you sacrifice the old one with counters to the legend rule and keep the new one, so it still works.

  • @samanderson6488
    @samanderson648827 күн бұрын

    Looks like stifles back on the menu boys!

  • @attackoncardboard

    @attackoncardboard

    27 күн бұрын

    "And where did that bring you, back to me."

  • @williamdrum9899

    @williamdrum9899

    26 күн бұрын

    Stifling dark depths does nothing, as it will simply trigger again to create Marit Lage anyway

  • @samanderson6488

    @samanderson6488

    26 күн бұрын

    @williamdrum9899 you stifle the black creatures ability so it never removes the counters.

  • @richardboss2892
    @richardboss289225 күн бұрын

    Depths is one of my all-time favorite cards. Any time a new card comes out that works with it is just gravy.

  • @mediocritysbest6220
    @mediocritysbest622024 күн бұрын

    We did guys. We broke dark depths

  • @attackoncardboard

    @attackoncardboard

    24 күн бұрын

    They can't keep getting away with this!

  • @coletrainhetrick

    @coletrainhetrick

    3 сағат бұрын

    Took them long enough

  • @nikolmorith800
    @nikolmorith80026 күн бұрын

    Turn 1: Thespian's Stage, Tap Stage to play Sol Ring Turn 2: Play Dark Depth's, Tap Sol Ring to use Stage to copy Dark Depth and it sacs to become Marit Lage. Turn 3: Watch Marit Lage get turned into a basic land with Path to Exile. Be labeled the Archnemesis rest of game. Lol

  • @MithDragon

    @MithDragon

    14 күн бұрын

    I take Depths combos out of my edh decks for this reason. For my Omo deck I swapped out the dark depths for a Mazes end and it works wonderfully as a backup win con rather than a cheese combo I hope to pull off and keep on board for several rotations of attacking.

  • @nikolmorith800

    @nikolmorith800

    14 күн бұрын

    @MithDragon That's pretty awesome. I was looking at using Maze and the Gates for an alt win con. I saw someone using the gates for pretty decent mana acceleration, too. That's what gave me the idea. This makes me want to do it even more. ^.^

  • @Anonymous______________
    @Anonymous______________13 күн бұрын

    Modern Horizons 3: Eldrazi Resurgence

  • @kirbyhypno2522
    @kirbyhypno252225 күн бұрын

    Aside from that use, I'm happy to have a nice and simple way of finally removing experience counters. I always struggle to find cards that assust with that

  • @colboy1fish

    @colboy1fish

    25 күн бұрын

    When I read the card my first tought was "That works for battles, doesn't it?"

  • @marcoottina654

    @marcoottina654

    25 күн бұрын

    There is a white cleric doing the same

  • @DarthSnugglePuss

    @DarthSnugglePuss

    23 күн бұрын

    Also removing poison counters from an opponent as a politicking piece!

  • @durttheelder4035

    @durttheelder4035

    19 күн бұрын

    I thought for battles removing the counters doesn't give you the backside you had to kill it in combat ​@@colboy1fish

  • @Layjus123
    @Layjus12315 күн бұрын

    It still dies to removal. By "it" I mean the opponent dies to turn 2 removal.

  • @erisdiscordia5429
    @erisdiscordia5429Ай бұрын

    Oh shit, my creatureless poison deck just shit itself.

  • @attackoncardboard

    @attackoncardboard

    Ай бұрын

    You cant target yourself with the Cultist ;)

  • @erisdiscordia5429

    @erisdiscordia5429

    Ай бұрын

    Oh wait, lol, you're right, nevermind. My deck will continue eating everyone.

  • @kelp-ist3469

    @kelp-ist3469

    27 күн бұрын

    @@erisdiscordia5429they can use it to give one of your opponents another turn or two

  • @berto6050
    @berto605024 күн бұрын

    Throw in a solemnity, works too. Take Nine Lives while you're at it. Then a Luminous Broodmoth for creatures that only exile will get rid of

  • @SuperTheNobody
    @SuperTheNobody27 күн бұрын

    could also use that cost reduction for a void winnower to invalidate half your opponents cards

  • @sethb3090

    @sethb3090

    19 күн бұрын

    Bro I can't even

  • @WillRennar

    @WillRennar

    14 күн бұрын

    @@sethb3090 According to the official rulings on the card: *_Yes. We know._*

  • @sethb3090

    @sethb3090

    14 күн бұрын

    @@WillRennar but of course

  • @einsUNDcolt
    @einsUNDcoltАй бұрын

    And this is why WotC needs to print more stifle effects

  • @439801RS

    @439801RS

    22 күн бұрын

    Or just think for a second...

  • @dorping_Wolf
    @dorping_WolfАй бұрын

    because Hexmage dark depths turn 2 was not strong enough, now you get an ulamog on top of it...

  • @nonameimpotantlive9233

    @nonameimpotantlive9233

    23 күн бұрын

    sad banned i mordern noices

  • @rowdyzack5914
    @rowdyzack59148 күн бұрын

    Ahhh yes a perfectly fair game of Magic the Gathering 😊

  • @rac2300
    @rac230024 күн бұрын

    Marit Lage is an eldrazi confirmed? Lol

  • @noadaenderninja
    @noadaenderninjaАй бұрын

    I have this combo in my commander deck, its funny when people dont expect you to cast a 2 mana Ema at flash speed.

  • @dtstar331
    @dtstar33112 күн бұрын

    I guess we're about to enter Stifle meta

  • @deltadevlin
    @deltadevlin3 күн бұрын

    That's so sick I love this

  • @RhysticTutor1
    @RhysticTutor19 күн бұрын

    Ah yes, Commander Horizons 3, with a Little Bit of Modern

  • @gilliganallmighty3
    @gilliganallmighty33 күн бұрын

    Commamder Turn 1: Dark Depths; Lotus Petal; Dark Ritual; Mutated Cultist; Ulamog, The Ceaseless Hunger.

  • @alexMendoza-wl5oj
    @alexMendoza-wl5oj18 күн бұрын

    Dark depths into ulamog is exactly what I was thinking

  • @attackoncardboard

    @attackoncardboard

    18 күн бұрын

    It's like it was meant to be 😂

  • @cassiuspeter9673
    @cassiuspeter967313 күн бұрын

    I'm sorry, I think I missed something. Cultist is 3 mana, but for turn 2, we have 1 land and dark depths, which doesn't tap for ... oh, right. Yavimaya makes dark depths tap for mana.

  • @TheJcjonesacp
    @TheJcjonesacp24 күн бұрын

    Welcome to dark depths 2 electric boogaloo!

  • @armyofmeh
    @armyofmeh27 күн бұрын

    This is very well edited.

  • @attackoncardboard

    @attackoncardboard

    27 күн бұрын

    Thank you! It's been a long journey, I cringe watching my older videos 🤣 I hope you enjoy the rest of the content 😃

  • @windiesel2826
    @windiesel282623 күн бұрын

    Good thing they play Stifle in Legacy...

  • @jj209th6
    @jj209th621 күн бұрын

    Why they didn’t specify a permanent an opponent controls is beyond me. This is clearly meant to be a way to interact with energy counters since it was released in the same set as a bunch of energy support, but it also works great against problematic planeswalkers or +1/+1 counter heavy decks. Allowing you to drain your own counters was a terrible idea.

  • @tinfoilslacks3750

    @tinfoilslacks3750

    16 күн бұрын

    Draining your own counters is clearly intended as a downside which gives you a proportional upside. Blame dark depths being one of the only cards in the game where counters are detrimental and losing them is beneficial.

  • @researchinbreeder

    @researchinbreeder

    12 күн бұрын

    It also released in a precon. Dark Depths is literally a card in another of the precons. This wasn't an accident, idk why people act like it was. Edit: The deck with DD in it also has Thespian Stage. Genuinely, they intended to give ppl Dark Depths combo pieces

  • @coltonkinder1424
    @coltonkinder142419 күн бұрын

    Thanks for the tip. I'm not crazy about the timing, but I wouldn't object to this a little later in the game with Crop Rot backup. Essentially 8 copies of Hexmage.

  • @RustedKing
    @RustedKing24 күн бұрын

    Using the new simic precon I got a marit Lage out turn 4, then got a 2nd one after the first died

  • @taylon5200
    @taylon520026 күн бұрын

    I figured this combo out as a brand new player the day the precons dropped. I moved the depths from the tricky terrain deck to the Eldrazi one, looked at these pieces together and immediately started laughing. It's gross how fast you can achieve it too, if you get both cards early on.

  • @Quiron1985
    @Quiron198519 күн бұрын

    Never stopped playing Stifle...

  • @legendsofmichael4315
    @legendsofmichael431519 күн бұрын

    Eldrazi are just so broken

  • @El_Chico_des_Galos
    @El_Chico_des_Galos26 күн бұрын

    I must never let my friend know this

  • @doctorexam6164
    @doctorexam616428 күн бұрын

    Stifle is definitely going to be used more

  • @kalamander8563
    @kalamander856325 күн бұрын

    Wait, this also hits experience counters, doesn't it? I think that's the first card that does so?

  • @attackoncardboard

    @attackoncardboard

    25 күн бұрын

    Mutated Cultist can remove your opponents experience counters!

  • @sorin_markov

    @sorin_markov

    23 күн бұрын

    Suncleanser

  • @kalamander8563

    @kalamander8563

    23 күн бұрын

    @@sorin_markov I didn't even know about this card. Very cool!

  • @yamibakura1337
    @yamibakura133722 күн бұрын

    Cast triggers is exactly why I hate Eldrazi's

  • @ssoftpaw8863
    @ssoftpaw886321 күн бұрын

    We did it guys we broke dark depths

  • @Nirashi
    @Nirashi28 күн бұрын

    Lmaooooo the again killed me

  • @attackoncardboard

    @attackoncardboard

    28 күн бұрын

    How can they keep doing it? 😂

  • @Nirashi

    @Nirashi

    28 күн бұрын

    @attackoncardboard they cant keep getting away with it!!!!!

  • @gingerplz1
    @gingerplz127 күн бұрын

    “Round 2” that’s cute.

  • @attackoncardboard

    @attackoncardboard

    27 күн бұрын

    As in you think turn 2 is too slow for Legacy?

  • @matthewutech5970

    @matthewutech5970

    24 күн бұрын

    While EDH has more broken things, Thassa's and demonic consultation currently banned in Legacy last I checked. The only other (as in not lands.dec) consistent sub turn 2 win I can think of in legacy is Char-belcher & occasionally Ant; and those can still get force'd / Flusterstormed, unlike this combo.

  • @sebbbi2
    @sebbbi219 күн бұрын

    We already had Urborg + Dark Depths + Vampire Hexmage on turn 2. One less card. New card is 1 more mana but uncounterable effect. But we already had better uncounterable combo with Thespian’s Stage. Both fetchable with Crop Rotation at instant speed for EOT 20/20 -> win. I don’t think anybody will play this in Legacy.

  • @andykapsar4667
    @andykapsar466710 күн бұрын

    who needs green? straight black can still so it turn 2 with a dark ritual

  • @ryanmann5497
    @ryanmann549711 күн бұрын

    Whoever does this is going to be salty af when I path to exile it 😂

  • @attackoncardboard

    @attackoncardboard

    11 күн бұрын

    Can't path it if Ulamog eats your lands 😂

  • @attackoncardboard

    @attackoncardboard

    7 күн бұрын

    @@sablesalt Do *you* know what an On Cast Trigger is?

  • @attackoncardboard

    @attackoncardboard

    6 күн бұрын

    @@sablesalt but Hunger does, mate. Would be wild if I included that Ulamog in the video.

  • @christopherflanagan9626
    @christopherflanagan962626 күн бұрын

    Why do any of that when I could just play a bunch of tribal creatures and lose on turn 7?

  • @Dungeoofpain
    @Dungeoofpain2 күн бұрын

    All is dust is often the best spell to cast off this

  • @attackoncardboard

    @attackoncardboard

    2 күн бұрын

    You'd sacrifice your Marit Lage though?

  • @Dungeoofpain

    @Dungeoofpain

    2 күн бұрын

    Oh yeah, I forgot the avatar is black, and I also forgot that it sacrifices instead of destroys.

  • @oelboy
    @oelboy26 күн бұрын

    I wouldn't call this broken. The loss of consistency when watering down a streamlined DD deck with Cultist and random Eldrazi is way too high.

  • @anthonywolf943
    @anthonywolf94325 күн бұрын

    I would like to remind people that void mirror does exist. One sideboard can wreck this.

  • @attackoncardboard

    @attackoncardboard

    25 күн бұрын

    Void Mirror doesn't stop you from getting Marit Lage though

  • @anthonywolf943

    @anthonywolf943

    25 күн бұрын

    @@attackoncardboard ;) Path to Exile was already in the deck. With Void sideboard you say no free spell and Path the Marit Lage, you get a swamp.

  • @attackoncardboard

    @attackoncardboard

    25 күн бұрын

    @@anthonywolf943 ;) but I play Force of Will heheh... We can play the MTG "but I have this" game until the end of time.

  • @anthonywolf943

    @anthonywolf943

    25 күн бұрын

    @@attackoncardboard but that's the point of a side board

  • @attackoncardboard

    @attackoncardboard

    7 күн бұрын

    @@sablesalt What are you talking about? This is just primary school playground battles. "Well I'm invincible." "Well I have anti-invincible bullets." "Well I can move faster than bullets."... There are counters for everything. Just because something has a counter doesn't make it bad. Remember how "Dies to removal" is suuuch a good argument against Sheoldred or (if youre old enough) Baneslayer Angel...

  • @godoy_
    @godoy_7 күн бұрын

    Saw this happened in my commander pod last time I played, was not good

  • @maxmustermann1111
    @maxmustermann11117 күн бұрын

    Is it though? Making lage fast is not at all the issue of depth decks. Another existing line would be: forest, exploration, depth into thespian stage, land, activate. The issue is that the 20/20 is too easy to answer these days. Yeah the nutdraw with ulamog is crazy, but if you get interacted with its a dead card. Among all the other stuff that is happening, this seems nowhere near „broken“. Im not sure Slotting in 4 „i win harder“ cards and another 4 options to make lage even improve the build as is.

  • @BackroomBandit
    @BackroomBandit3 күн бұрын

    Yea i see no issue with this.

  • @Nuzzlock08
    @Nuzzlock0829 күн бұрын

    I don’t play legacy, is stifle or any stifle like effects legal?

  • @attackoncardboard

    @attackoncardboard

    29 күн бұрын

    Stifle is definitely legal in Legacy. If this combo becomes more apparent, Stifle play will certainly rise.

  • @matthewutech5970

    @matthewutech5970

    24 күн бұрын

    Stifle effects are legal, but weren't that commonly used outside of stifle-naught '2 mana 12/12 and Delver 'one mana monoblue land destruction'

  • @mathieuroy1802
    @mathieuroy180224 күн бұрын

    Turn 1 dark depts, turn 2 vesuva, 20/20 flying indestructible. But yours is better since you can cast something afterwards

  • @attackoncardboard

    @attackoncardboard

    24 күн бұрын

    Unfortunately, due to copy effects, Vesuva *will* also enter with 10 ice counters, so no 20/20. The land you're looking for is Thespian's Stage.

  • @schaedli177
    @schaedli177Ай бұрын

    or if you have ONE spare red mana available somehow you could try to fling lage in the enemy face just winning right there

  • @attackoncardboard

    @attackoncardboard

    Ай бұрын

    Fling and Lage have been in Legacy for ages, if it's not a thing now, this new combo doesn't add anything more.

  • @livedandletdie
    @livedandletdie17 күн бұрын

    This is why Stifle is cheap.

  • @imstupid880
    @imstupid88022 күн бұрын

    Wizards not caring once again

  • @attackoncardboard

    @attackoncardboard

    22 күн бұрын

    How so?

  • @imstupid880

    @imstupid880

    22 күн бұрын

    @@attackoncardboard just feels like lately Wizards has been reprinting/making new cards just to have a shiny new broken card to sell without thinking much about the larger scope of things. For example, Deadly Cover-up, because recursable mass exiling basics from deck is definitely a great idea for a card.

  • @jaysuede2627
    @jaysuede262726 күн бұрын

    Urborg decks needed help in Legacy anyway.

  • @reynastrange2828
    @reynastrange282826 күн бұрын

    It also has devoid, so the casting trigger can be copied by Echoes of Eternity and Ulalek, Fused Atrocity

  • @attackoncardboard

    @attackoncardboard

    26 күн бұрын

    Yup! But you'll need something else with a bunch of counters to make use of that second cultist trigger. Worth pointing out that Echos will trigger Dark Depth twice, but the tokens are Legendary 😅

  • @reynastrange2828

    @reynastrange2828

    26 күн бұрын

    @@attackoncardboard Now I’m trying to think of what the best secondary targets would be. Opponent’s counters are obviously good (I especially love the idea of draining your opponent’s Ulamog, the Defiler), or if you have poison counters, but it’s better to run your own guaranteed combos, typically. Similar to Dark Depths you could drain ice counters from Thing in the Ice, but I feel like draining age counters from cards with cumulative upkeep is another good way to go. I can’t find anything nearly as good as Dark Depths though, alas

  • @attackoncardboard

    @attackoncardboard

    26 күн бұрын

    Dont forget, you cant target yourself with Cultist!

  • @reynastrange2828

    @reynastrange2828

    26 күн бұрын

    @@attackoncardboard You’re right! My mistake

  • @Pers0n97
    @Pers0n9719 күн бұрын

    Dark depth was a mistake as it locked wizard out of any counter removal manipulation. Ironically enough, it would have been better from a design standpoiny to make it stack counters rather than remove them.

  • @attackoncardboard

    @attackoncardboard

    19 күн бұрын

    Vampire Hexmage? The Phyrexian one with the activated ability? There was also the zombie from War of the Spark.

  • @Pers0n97

    @Pers0n97

    18 күн бұрын

    @@attackoncardboard Oh I know all of thos, and all of them have created problem with Dark Depths which is exactly why I said it should have been a card that stack counter rather than remove them, sure there is a lot of way to stack faster these days, but it would still be less binari than all these counter cleansers are.

  • @saw8814
    @saw881416 күн бұрын

    Yes but making Marit Lage is better at instant speed so I think only 1 or 2 copies will make the 75

  • @BMBAnauta
    @BMBAnautaАй бұрын

    That is cute...but I normaly do not want to do depths in sorcery speed.

  • @cmattss4
    @cmattss426 күн бұрын

    A combo that requires you to have 5 pieces in hand turn 1? This doesn't seem consistent enough to be threatenubg at all. Most people trying to play this deck are going to end up with 2 cultists in hand and no Dark Depths, or 3 huge eldrazi in hand and no way to play them.

  • @bariltrailette
    @bariltrailette2 күн бұрын

    20/20 and emrakul baby for 3 mana lol extra turn attack for 35 book

  • @attackoncardboard

    @attackoncardboard

    2 күн бұрын

    Emrakul costs 13 not 10 😅

  • 24 күн бұрын

    God forbid that you might use crop rotation to make you you get the bloody land you need.

  • @attackoncardboard

    @attackoncardboard

    24 күн бұрын

    Why would God forbid that?

  • 24 күн бұрын

    Oh, yknow making it even more consistent to get Yavimaya or Dark Depths.

  • @attackoncardboard

    @attackoncardboard

    24 күн бұрын

    Oh I understand your point now. I thought you were being facetious 😅

  • 24 күн бұрын

    Haha, fair.

  • @addieee333
    @addieee33317 күн бұрын

    this just will not see play in legacy (which you mentioned). this costs 1 more mana than hexmage, and is not a land (like thespian's stage), which are the two things it competes with. furthermore, the mana cheating clause is near useless unless you're putting uncastable cards in your deck like ulamog or whatever garbage doesnt work without this card, where youre unnecessarily adding a c to your a +b combo.

  • @cuddlequeen3225
    @cuddlequeen322523 күн бұрын

    Jeesus

  • @attackoncardboard

    @attackoncardboard

    23 күн бұрын

    He cannot save you if this gets dropped on you 😂

  • @cuddlequeen3225

    @cuddlequeen3225

    23 күн бұрын

    @@attackoncardboard lawl I'll be the one dropping after learning about this

  • @Netro1992
    @Netro1992Ай бұрын

    How likely was that whiff in match 2? do you think you might have been too aggressive with that particular line, or the cards you saw would not have allowed for any other option?

  • @attackoncardboard

    @attackoncardboard

    Ай бұрын

    Wrong video perhaps? 😅

  • @Netro1992

    @Netro1992

    Ай бұрын

    @@attackoncardboard for whatever reason you got my comment for mtg gameplay and the epic storm got my comment about how my favourite combo is the solemnity+dark depths combo, not because it is good, but because it's such a dumb interaction and evidence dark depth might have been a mistake.

  • @tychoMX
    @tychoMX26 күн бұрын

    Damn. I thought "big deal, hexmage same thing". But this is on cast... yikes. Eat my shorts, Force of Will.

  • @PraskaBruce
    @PraskaBruce28 күн бұрын

    Is it just me or is it ridiculous how everybody seems to think that this card is absolutely busted with dark depths even though in formats like legacy there are cards such as I don't know stifle

  • @attackoncardboard

    @attackoncardboard

    28 күн бұрын

    "Dies to removal" has always been a very good argument for powerful creatures... 😏

  • @PraskaBruce

    @PraskaBruce

    28 күн бұрын

    @@attackoncardboard that's not what I mean. With the trigger on the stack you cast stifle. Then the creature resolves and nothing to worry about funny enough stiflenought decks have a frightening advantage over the legacy meta why there isn't more of those styles of decks is truly beyond me.

  • @toddpacker1015

    @toddpacker1015

    27 күн бұрын

    @@PraskaBruceit’s 40 power on the board with 2 triggered abilities one stifle will do nothing

  • @PraskaBruce

    @PraskaBruce

    27 күн бұрын

    @@toddpacker1015 you can't be soo dumb THAT'S IF THE ability resolves stifle would stop the ability

  • @samanderson6488

    @samanderson6488

    27 күн бұрын

    ​@toddpacker1015 you stifle the cast trigger to remove counters. Now they have a 3 drop a land with 10 counters still and no way to cast their ulamog.

  • @DekoMice
    @DekoMice21 күн бұрын

    Defabricate

  • @attackoncardboard

    @attackoncardboard

    21 күн бұрын

    "Dies to removal"

  • @riku2193
    @riku219324 күн бұрын

    Stifle stonks?

  • @attackoncardboard

    @attackoncardboard

    24 күн бұрын

    📈

  • @raymondvillanueva999
    @raymondvillanueva99921 күн бұрын

    how do you cast cultist on turn 2

  • @attackoncardboard

    @attackoncardboard

    21 күн бұрын

    Yavimaya makes everything a Forest, so Dark Depths gains the ability "Tap: Add G"

  • @kysonpoll7712
    @kysonpoll771210 күн бұрын

    WHT did they sensor mutated?

  • @attackoncardboard

    @attackoncardboard

    10 күн бұрын

    I dont catch your meaning?

  • @barryberg2944
    @barryberg294423 күн бұрын

    Why not just a normal forest instead of yavimaya

  • @attackoncardboard

    @attackoncardboard

    23 күн бұрын

    If we played a normal Forest, Dark Depths won't be able to produce mana. It has no mana abilities otherwise.

  • @jasmint6703
    @jasmint670329 күн бұрын

    Swords to plowshares wins and requires no other cards

  • @attackoncardboard

    @attackoncardboard

    29 күн бұрын

    "Dies to removal" 😏

  • @crawdaddy2004

    @crawdaddy2004

    27 күн бұрын

    @@attackoncardboard No, this isn’t JUST a “dies to removal” argument. This is a “my opponent spent all of their resources on a sorcery speed combo that gives me a turn to find one of the most heavily played cards in the game” argument. The power of Stage/Depths and Hexmage/Depths is that they can be done at instant speed. Moreover, both Depths and Stage can be tutored for with Crop Rotation. Heck, just packing an Aether Spellbomb as an Urza’s Saga target takes care of a sorcery speed Marit Lage token. So combine that with StP - okay, you used 3 cards and three mana to do your thing, and I used 4 cards and two mana to undo it. If you have Portable Hole to exile Marit Lage, then you can just sacrifice that to pay Ulamog’s Ward cost. Now we both used three cards, but I only used two mana.

  • @daveSoupy
    @daveSoupy18 күн бұрын

    Dark depths is banned in modern so this only matters in commander where there’s plenty of answers for this

  • @attackoncardboard

    @attackoncardboard

    18 күн бұрын

    "So in Legacy"

  • @Rascus75
    @Rascus7520 күн бұрын

    They really want people sideboarding Tale's End, huh?

  • @attackoncardboard

    @attackoncardboard

    20 күн бұрын

    Or main decking Stifle 😂

  • @AliceIzuragi6291
    @AliceIzuragi629118 күн бұрын

    FUCK. why isnt this in arena. id kill for that card

  • @legitanator
    @legitanatorАй бұрын

    Yeah If you think this is bad have fun playing against blue green MH3 precon and having dark depths pop like every other game.

  • @johnche7526
    @johnche75268 күн бұрын

    jk dies to edict

  • @ashemabahumat4173
    @ashemabahumat417324 күн бұрын

    Wait, does Yavimaya make the lands produce 2 mana due to being 2 types?

  • @attackoncardboard

    @attackoncardboard

    24 күн бұрын

    Yavimaya's ability causes each land on the battlefield to have the land type Forest. Any land that's a Forest has the ability "Tap: Add Green."

  • @ashemabahumat4173

    @ashemabahumat4173

    24 күн бұрын

    @@attackoncardboard that didn't actually answer my question, but I figured it out on a but later

  • @attackoncardboard

    @attackoncardboard

    24 күн бұрын

    @@ashemabahumat4173 It literally did answer your question though? I replied with exactly what Yavimaya does to other lands.

  • @ashemabahumat4173

    @ashemabahumat4173

    24 күн бұрын

    @@attackoncardboard I was asking about the specific interaction tho, lol. Thought it allowed for something else to double dip on mana off of technicality, but that wasn't the case

  • @attackoncardboard

    @attackoncardboard

    24 күн бұрын

    My mistake. I didnt understand your question. Any land that is granted a basic land type (in addition to its others) just simply gains the ability "Tap: Add [relevant colour]"

  • @Captain69Spaulding
    @Captain69Spaulding20 күн бұрын

    Do you even play legacy? Its a nice video but thats commander stuff :)

  • @power998
    @power99825 күн бұрын

    Um, I agree that the ulamogs are better cards, but if you chose aeons torn for your example it literally results in a turn two kills because of the extra turn aeons torn provides, kinda feel like that would be the pick no?

  • @attackoncardboard

    @attackoncardboard

    25 күн бұрын

    How much mana does Aeons Torn cost?

  • @danmir123
    @danmir12317 күн бұрын

    people have to learn to put inside the decks spot removal.

  • @attackoncardboard

    @attackoncardboard

    17 күн бұрын

    Removal doesn't help when you don't have any lands.

  • @attackoncardboard

    @attackoncardboard

    7 күн бұрын

    @@sablesalt Ulamog exiles two permanents on cast mate, if we're doing this on turn Two, that's at least 2 lands being exiled.

  • @dimitriosdoulgeris4659
    @dimitriosdoulgeris465926 күн бұрын

    Casting a spell that costs three mana with only two? Did I miss something? Land + Dork + Dark Depths makes two mana on turn two.

  • @attackoncardboard

    @attackoncardboard

    26 күн бұрын

    Cradle makes everything a Forest. Giving Dark Depths 'Tap:Add G'.

  • @funa2865
    @funa286528 күн бұрын

    why ulamog not old emrakul?

  • @attackoncardboard

    @attackoncardboard

    28 күн бұрын

    Because Ulamog costs 10, and Cultist reduces your next spell by 10

  • @MrHuggykins
    @MrHuggykins19 күн бұрын

    How can you do this if Dark Depths doesn't tap for mana?? Yav + Ignoble + Dark Depths only gives you 2 mana. Am i missing something?

  • @attackoncardboard

    @attackoncardboard

    19 күн бұрын

    What does Yavimaya do? Why did we play that instead of just a Forest? 😉

  • @MrHuggykins

    @MrHuggykins

    18 күн бұрын

    @@attackoncardboard I definitely missed something. Sneaky! My bad. This black card seems bonkers.

  • @attackoncardboard

    @attackoncardboard

    18 күн бұрын

    For those playing at home, Yavimaya, Cradle of Growth turns every land into a Forest, giving them the ability "Tap: Add G" 😃

  • @tastysnacks3648
    @tastysnacks3648Ай бұрын

    But..... Dark depths doesnt give mana. how do we get the 3rd Mana?

  • @attackoncardboard

    @attackoncardboard

    Ай бұрын

    Cradle makes all lands Forests. Lands with the basic subtype gain the ability "tap: add {corresponding mana}" So thanks to Cradle, DD can tap for G

  • @tastysnacks3648

    @tastysnacks3648

    Ай бұрын

    @@attackoncardboard Ii rewatched this many times, and didnt even clue in the first lnd was Yavimaya, My bad haha

  • @NPC999
    @NPC9994 күн бұрын

    WotC is a sady, slimy joke.

  • @attackoncardboard

    @attackoncardboard

    4 күн бұрын

    how so?

  • @iratebeaver29
    @iratebeaver2919 күн бұрын

    If this isnt commander, why not just end the game, do akroma's memorial instead, so your stuff gets haste and dome them with lage.

  • @gnezlukc
    @gnezlukcАй бұрын

    I mean modern horizons was designed for modern and depths is banned in modern so I think they did fine. The real issue is will they let the combo survive in legacy.

  • @Sivarias
    @Sivarias5 күн бұрын

    This doesn't do anything More for 3 mana that urborg and vampire hexmage does for 2

  • @codyjarvis4557
    @codyjarvis4557Ай бұрын

    BANNED!

  • @noahfriedrich4686

    @noahfriedrich4686

    28 күн бұрын

    Dark Depths is already banned

  • @samanderson6488

    @samanderson6488

    27 күн бұрын

    ​@@noahfriedrich4686this video is about legacy where it isn't banned.

  • @jarekwildheart
    @jarekwildheart17 күн бұрын

    Definitely not broken. This is a 3 card combo that requires 2 of the 3 pieces to be dark depths (a land that taps for 0 mana) and this guy who sucks without depths, and the third card being something 8 cmc+ you couldn't cast without the combo. It's way easier to just run Cloudpost...

  • @gabrielhughes7587
    @gabrielhughes75875 сағат бұрын

    too bad you got double griefd turn one and your combos gone

  • @user-co6ww2cm9k
    @user-co6ww2cm9k23 күн бұрын

    I am not good enough at slight of hand to pull exactly the seven cards I want on every first turn. I always end up mixing all the cards around completely randomly when I shuffle, but these youtube guys always seem to have exactly what they want on turn one

  • @attackoncardboard

    @attackoncardboard

    23 күн бұрын

    Monkeys and Typewriters. It's a game of variance, but it certainly looks like cheating if I get to pick which games I put into the video.

  • @doomdozer26
    @doomdozer2626 күн бұрын

    Probably will get banned in Legacy...

  • @bluntlord1242
    @bluntlord124218 күн бұрын

    Awsome combo but why Mutated Cultist is not legal in Modern? New card form new Modern set is not Modern legal so stiupid. Iff they decide to make Commander decks in Modern set they shuld at least make cards from this decks Modern legal.

  • @attackoncardboard

    @attackoncardboard

    18 күн бұрын

    Dark Depths isn't Modern legal either, hence why I say "in Legacy". Do you also hold that sentiment for the Commander decks that release with the standard sets?

  • @hastur2905
    @hastur2905Ай бұрын

    isn't that too weak for legacy?

  • @attackoncardboard

    @attackoncardboard

    Ай бұрын

    😂 T2 is fine. This isn't vintage

  • @androkguz

    @androkguz

    Ай бұрын

    No. It's good for legacy. Perfect hands will keep winning games in legacy but the better decks are the ones that are most consistent or can survive disruption or can deny other combos. This one is ... Consistent enough by t3, probably.

  • @josephstrouth519

    @josephstrouth519

    28 күн бұрын

    It's not really good in legacy. It'll be fine. Making a 20/20 at sorcery speed and then passing the turn withou5 crop rotation for protection is worse than what people are already doing with dark depths.

  • @androkguz

    @androkguz

    28 күн бұрын

    @@josephstrouth519 a 20/20 indestructible and a 10+/10+ with ward And you can still protect the token with Not of This World It's very strong for legacy. The problem for me is that it's the pipe dream

  • @noahfriedrich4686

    @noahfriedrich4686

    28 күн бұрын

    It's not better that the already existing dark Depths decks. Plus dumping the 10 mana into a Ulamog is a waste, something like lightning greaves or akromas memorial for protection and haste is a way better option so you don't have to pass the turn, just win instead

  • @Lunamowon
    @Lunamowon18 күн бұрын

    Wow edh players are discovering a worse version of hexmage which isn't evdn playable in legacy anymore!!! How insane.. istg

  • @sleepybones5726
    @sleepybones572623 күн бұрын

    dark depths doesn't tap for mana dawg

  • @attackoncardboard

    @attackoncardboard

    23 күн бұрын

    That's why we play Yavimaya, Cradle of Growth broseph

  • @sleepybones5726

    @sleepybones5726

    23 күн бұрын

    @@attackoncardboard oh shit im so bad

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