Loved your review. Like the look of your layout. The 59s with sound were available direct from Dapol and I obtained three from them. I originally ordered the DB 59, but cancelled as I had so many Bachmann DB 66s. The next run of 59s with three new liveries will be available with sound from dealers. The sound versions are awesome with twin speakers and suggest you get one on the next run.

@northwesttrainsmodels

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Hi I'll definitely be looking at getting a sound fitted one, I do wish I went for one rather than the smoke fitted but, its one of those things I wanted to try it and apart from that it really is a smart loco, I did pick the dB livery because I didn't have a 66 in that livery only the older ews so I've got a bit of variety at the moment, glad you enjoyed the video and the layout, I'll hopefully get round to doing some more scenery soon, thanks for watching. Tom

Nice review! Just found your channel - via Lawrie Goes Loco, and subscribed. Steve in Minneapolis,Minnesota

@northwesttrainsmodels

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Hi Steve, glad you enjoyed the video and thank you for subscribing, i also like lawrie goes loco channel to, he has some interesting stuff, thanks again. Tom

Just a quick check on the smoke - I haven't tried the Dapol one yet but It is easy to create an airlock when you fill these kind of units - I tend to blow down the exhaust to clear this. It may be more controllable to get a syringe for filling - you can also use the empty syringe to blow air through the unit to break any fluid bubbles that may form . I have also found that most smoke units need around 15-17v DCC to get the best out of them - I do not know if the instructions mention a minimum (Or maximum) track voltage. Cheers Chris

@northwesttrainsmodels

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Hi Chris if you skip to 17:35 on the video you can see the smoke unit does pump out quite strong there is alot of smoke coming out of the funnel i think the issue is its like water vapour and you can barely see it, against a dark background you could see it, in an ideal world it could do with being abit blacker, the more ive tried it ive realised the smoke unit is pretty powerful it is more so not being able to see the smoke when its coming out, thanks for watching and for the info. Tom

@digitalcareline

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@@northwesttrainsmodels I did see it at the end but was more intrigued by the initial run problems - I would like to see a manufacturer explain the pros and cons of overfilling their units rather than just a cryptic comment in the manual (Well, what do you do if the unit is overfilled? - Manual - I've got nothing) Cheers Chris

Hi Tom, what a cracking looking model. Looks really good pulling the ews wagons. All the best butty. Carl.

@northwesttrainsmodels

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Thanks Carl it's a really nice looking loco and runs great I wouldn't have bothered with the smoke unit if I went back in time, thanks for watching. Tom

Great review thus far, just enjoying, the sound version was/is available ONLY through Dapol themselves, and not through stockists! Will carry on enjoying!

@northwesttrainsmodels

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Hi Nick glad you enjoyed the review, there was virtually nothing on dapols website about the current batch of 59s and only abit of info on the next batch which does mention sound fitted not coming out till 2024, I'll hopefully get mine sound fitted before then, I'll probably turn of the smoke unit as its abit pointless and not worth the extra money in my opinion, thanks for watching and for the info much appreciated. Tom

@RedShedNick

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@@northwesttrainsmodels i know there are plenty of reviews on the sound version direct from the Dapol website as everyone has complained about the absence of a sound function sheet! As for the smoke version, i have it too and yes its very hit and miss! But at least its dcc fitted! I will order a couple from the next batch, heard Jan 2024?? As there will be more current liveries available. Am after the Freightliner Jaffa cake livery or as some say Tango livery, but the idiots have chosen a running number of 59206 the same as our db 59006, how stupid! Means i will have to renumber say the db schenker. Now i did order the one off GBRf 59003 "Yeoman Highlander" available soon. Its limited edition and only available through Gaugemaster stockists as my friend Jim at the Locoshed in Manchester is. Really enjoyedcyour detailed review and yes overall im vedy happy with it. All the best for the NewYear, tske care cheers Nick.

I wonder if the issue with the smoke is the generator on the loco or the fluid not making much clag?

@northwesttrainsmodels

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If there was someway to make the fluid a blacky colour it would improve it alot, once I got it working its actually quite a powerful smoke flume coming out and in scale size it goes about 30 foot into the air 😂, but because it looks like water vapour it's so hard to see, it would certainly pass the emissions test 🤣, I think it would have been so much more effective if it could work in sink with sound fitted models like a cold start up or moving of it would add to the effect but am guessing there a way of getting to that , to be honest I would still have bought this model but I would have got the sound fitted version direct from dapol and not bothered with the smoke effect,

You'll find out that if you put a Hornby Hook on the locomotive that it'll work better than dapol's hook because there is more space so the train can navigate curves better

@northwesttrainsmodels

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Hi thanks for the advice I'll give it a try, I do find the magnetic couplings do the trick but on the hornby class 60 that still seems to derail bachmann wagons with the hook or magnetic on certain curves, thanks for watching and commenting. Tom

Hi thanks for the review, waiting for my sound fitted from 'Rainbow railways' in ARC livery. My favourite loco waited along time for it to appear and not much info coming from Dapol as to how it was coming on. I use Kadees so hopefully i wont have the same problems with coupling up to stock. Very informative, smoke seems a bit disappointing hope they can improve it with the settings.

@northwesttrainsmodels

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Hi glad you like the review, I was very disappointed with the smoke to be honest its like fine water vapour rather than black so you can't really see it and I think with the sound fitted the diesel fumes working with a cold start sound setting would be much more effective, the dapol website there was hardly any info on the class 59 seemed very strange, am sure rainbow railways will work there magic on yours I got some drs mk2 resprays a few years ago and they were really smart, I had the arc livery in an old Lima 59, also the kd couplers should be fine I was just also abit annoyed that they had this problem with the class 68 couplers and they haven't tried to rectify it, thanks very much for watching and hope your happy with your 59 when it arrives. Tom

I’ve always wondered how they can see at night with only one light???????

@northwesttrainsmodels

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I was always tempted to ask the question but thought that's something I should now so never did till recently 😂

The 59 was brought in to replace the aging 56 57 and were on par with the 58s but the 58s weren't always available for stone and heavy coal mgrs yeoman was the first to order their 59s from EMD and they were delivered in 1989 and they found them very reliable

@northwesttrainsmodels

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They certainly did seem ahead of there time, doesn't seem like over 30 years since they've been around, thanks for watching. Tom

@irishsixtysixfanGbrf66739

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@@northwesttrainsmodels they have a far superior amount of tractive effort over the 66s

@irishsixtysixfanGbrf66739

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There is a video of a 59 hauling 30 wagons plus a full 7 coach hst as well

@northwesttrainsmodels

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@irishsixtysixfan3263 wow, do you have a link for it? Wouldn't mind watching that

@irishsixtysixfanGbrf66739

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@@northwesttrainsmodels I will find it for you

Hi Tom, you don’t seem to pleased with your 59 I always use hunt elite couplings had no problems at all my 59 DC run’s lovely cheers Al still waiting for a Dapol chip nothing else fits according to Susannah

@northwesttrainsmodels

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Hi Al i havent had any problems since changing to the hunt couplings either, it was fine with the dapol wagons just didnt seem to like bachmann wagons with standard couplers and i do think the couplers on the dapol diesels hang to low, overall am happy with it, i think the dissapointment first started when it wasnt made clear about dcc sound being only supplied from dapol and the day i picked mine up and realised it wasnt even my supplier went on there website and everything about the 59 was gone of the website apart from a new pre order page for the next batch, but i suppose paying extra for a smoke unit, i was originally excited about as i love the smoke effect on the steam locos but i should have nown it wasnt going to be as good as someone else stated on the comments dapol hadnt shown it of or publicised it much so that was a tell tail they mustnt have been to confident with it, nice idea but not well executed and the main dissapointment for me is you have to open up the loco and turn the smoke unit of manually, otherwise in terms of running quality and detail i cant fault it, it is a lovely powerful loco, glad your happy with yours and ill have to take a look at Susannahs video on it, thanks . Tom

Very good review, the smoke unit is an abysmal fail IMO and don't know why Dapol even bothered to be honest. Will consider the Freightliner G&W in the second run but DCC Ready only so I can put in my own LokPilot v5 chip, if you can't put in a EM2 inside that loco like the Hattons 66 then I won't bother with sound.

@RedShedNick

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The smoke unit is a failure, dissapointed, my own fault for bothering, should have known better!

@sapphirejunction8993

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@@RedShedNick the thing is Dapol didn't exactly show it off before release so you were buying into an unknown. Now you can see why, it is utter shite in my opinion and so far removed from the real thing it isn't funny.

@RedShedNick

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@@sapphirejunction8993 yep your right as always! The 92's i was about to order a couple, wull hang fire, and await Euvirails part two review, more and more problems are now emerging sadly.The annoying thing was the initial reviews looked very promising, but more detailed testing later revealed all was not quite as it seemed!

@sapphirejunction8993

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@@RedShedNick Yep, I've had to send my 2 back but on 92010 the electricals started to fail starting with both Panto's, then the cab lights and then it when you slowed it down it would stop then go back to the speed setting.

@RedShedNick

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@@sapphirejunction8993 begs the question how will the 37's turn out? i shudder to think!

Dapol needs to move away from the 21 pin decoders and move towards the 22 pin next gen decoders

@northwesttrainsmodels

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Well have to see what happens am tempted to step away from dapol for a while loco wise as much as I've liked there steam locos there always seems to be a problem with them and the 59 lovely model but not impressed with the smoke effect and the flickering light in the cab, thanks for watching. Tom

Smoke unit not controllable? Well that's a bit of a shock.. pointless then.. don't think il bother.. stick to my Hornby versions..

@northwesttrainsmodels

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Hi other than the smoke unit it's a very good model but am sorry I paid for it, if I'd of nown about the sound model only being supplied by dapol if of gone with that, I did have a hornby 66 but my personal favorite is the bachmann version, thanks for watching. Tom

@class66

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@@northwesttrainsmodels managed to find out from local model shop that the smoke is intended to only work on start up or pull away. Odd. Hattons say some sound versions are coming in next few weeks, apparently. I may stick to my Hornby versions.. there a vid of them on here I think!