Can’t wait to watch this compilation of Arin not only dying on hills, but actively stabbing himself on them while Dan stands by and shrugs

@astrowolvez

Жыл бұрын

This is already a dying on this hill compilation 🤣

@TurlasThe6

Жыл бұрын

Hey, if you're gonna die on a hill, make it count, right?

@ijl7514

Жыл бұрын

I was basically just coming here to say the same thing XD

@gavinfarr9381

Жыл бұрын

“Do you need me here, or are you just going to argue with yourself? Cause I can go. I can go get lunch.” -Dan Avidan

@GeoffronX

Жыл бұрын

I think this is that already!

"A burger is a type of sandwich" "Arin, I don't wanna debate" *"THERE'S NO DEBATE!"*

@MrAwesomeMatty

Жыл бұрын

The hilarious part about this is that I actually came off a food video where there were people, including myself, who got into a debate about this and this one guy @2ZZGE100 had an utter meltdown over it. Apparently, other areas, such as New Zealand, Ireland, and Australia, don't consider a chicken sandwich a sandwich and instead call it a chicken burger. In fact, McDonald's calls things like the McChicken a burger on Ireland's website for the franchise. So essentially, other areas of the world would disagree with people like Arin and the user mentioned above and consider a burger and a sandwich two separate things.

@dilemma08

Жыл бұрын

(*proceeds to debate*)

@dominicchambers8672

Жыл бұрын

I wonder how Arin would feel about a pizza technically being classified as an open faced sandwich.

@NinjaDog251

Жыл бұрын

What even is the debate?

@JamienautMark2

Жыл бұрын

@@MrAwesomeMatty I feel like that has to be a legal or marketing thing and that alone cements the burger as a sandwich in my mind.

The fact that the burger/sandwich clip literally isn’t even them arguing, it’s just Arin yelling at an imaginary opponent 😂

@mikeyvee2451

Жыл бұрын

the opponent is silver the hedgehog

@abysslight2490

Жыл бұрын

@@mikeyvee2451 To save the future, I MUST prove that a hotdog isn't a sandwich Sonic!

@Maiwa-wk9yh

11 ай бұрын

'' hey Billy what is your favorite game grumps episode '' I really like the part where Arin talks about sandwiches for a long time''

@seanheany444

10 ай бұрын

Dan "Holy goodness I didn't argue with you" Arin "Yea well maybe you should've" 😂

I love that Arin is both wrong and completely uncontested in every single one of these and still manages to passionately lose most of them

@GayBowser253

Жыл бұрын

I want to like this, but I can’t ruin the perfect 69 likes

@drudle

Жыл бұрын

Wrong?! A BURGER IS A TYPE OF SANDWICH.

@toms.o.d

Жыл бұрын

Also Mando spoiler was bigger

@bayhope1484

Жыл бұрын

and on the crab and evolution thing was mostly correct

@ArTKYT

Жыл бұрын

@@drudle It's not

Arin's (failed) attempts to goad Dan into an argument are PEAK Game Grumps

I only just started and Arin insisting that cheetahs have "circular stripes" already has me near tears. 🤣

@Mikkashiki

Жыл бұрын

I am 93% sure what he's talking about are rosettes, which leopards have. I can sort of see an argument for the open markings being like "circular stripes" since the spots themselves are clustered in a sort of circle with no black in the middle. However, cheetahs have spots. (I love your creative assessment though, Arin)

@Merlewhitefire

Жыл бұрын

The thing is, I get what Arin means. Like it's not accurate but it is logical, if you feel me

@B2Roland

Жыл бұрын

He's beyond help. Shoulda stayed in school

@DragonbornCanid

Жыл бұрын

​@Maarmalady jaguars have rosettes too! Arin calling them circular stripes and saying cheetahs have them absolutely kills me insde 😢😂

@YukiNagatoSan1

Жыл бұрын

Are they called “spots”, “rings” or what will be the proper name, if you don’t mind me asking? I’m genuinely curious

arin calling himself the “love conquers all” guy while also being the most combative person in the world

@Nyahahameha

Жыл бұрын

Clearly because he wants to be conquered by love.

@VibinWitch

Жыл бұрын

Arin loves so aggressively

@kamikazesopp

Жыл бұрын

Love is passion, and Arin has a LOT of passion.

@rikk9370

Жыл бұрын

​@@kamikazesopp and farts

@13thbeliever

Жыл бұрын

"Why did you think I was being so combative?" is my favorite gotcha from the ice cream or dessert rating episodes because no sir, even sober it is plausible that you're doing a silly, goofy, combative bit

Need a compilation of every time Arin pauses and says “…No but” and Dan laughs

@prowlingmonkey

Жыл бұрын

Improv at its finest.

@dinklebamp

10 ай бұрын

Ten years is a lot of time

Dan: *Exists* Arin: YOU TAKE THAT BACK!

@notsure1969

Жыл бұрын

Arin took that personally.

“What kind of animal is Chester Cheetah?” is Arin Hanson in a nutshell. Edit: I hope you see this Arin, because I wanted to let you know that I am so proud of your performance at the creator clash. You absolutely killed it!

@Yewtewba

Жыл бұрын

A tiger. Because of the stripes.

@ethanol1586

Жыл бұрын

Gives off "what animal is the pink panther" energy

@72cndc4

Жыл бұрын

@@ethanol1586 well panthers don't exist so probably a Leopard or Jaguar.

@SunshineSuperstar

Жыл бұрын

​@@ethanol1586what were those things in Gremlins called?

@SunshineSuperstar

Жыл бұрын

​@@72cndc4panthers exist bro???🤨

With Arin, EVERY HILL is a hill to die on

@crtscream

Жыл бұрын

I feel like him and Brennan Lee Mulligan should do a podcast

Arin really takes "it takes two to argue" as a challenge

I'm still laughing my ass off that they went through that whole speech covering up the Mandalorian spoiler and then it got said again unedited AS HE WAS EXPLAINING HOW THEY WERE GOING TO EDIT IT

@shamutferraz

Жыл бұрын

bro like WTF XD

@Nyahahameha

Жыл бұрын

I love that it's the same edit as when they talked about everyone having a Will Smith is Gay story from all the way back in Wind Waker. XD

@AlexAnteroLammikko

Жыл бұрын

Yeah, plus he also was like "Look, "Barney Rubble is Fred Flintstones friend" is totally a spoiler because they make a big deal about that fact that Mandalorians don't take off their helmet". And im like " ohhhhh, I wonder what ever could it be"

@dowfreak7

Ай бұрын

Because the spoiler itself was already apparent just based on the context throughout that episode.

@KiroOsexXIII

10 күн бұрын

It didn't have the Barney Rubble censor in the original episode, Sbassbear added it here

"I didn't argue with you!" "YEAH WELL MAYBE YOU SHOULD'VE-" This video in a nutshell

I love the “sushi is filling” argument continuing on 6 months later.

@MrSpartan993

Жыл бұрын

Dan-“ARIN PLEASE STAHP!”

@suchnothing

Жыл бұрын

I laughed pretty loud when it suddenly came up AGAIN. Although, I actually agree it's not filling. Like, I'll eat it until I feel like I'm gonna explode, and 30 minutes after I stop eating I need to eat something again.

@zzskyninjazz1821

Жыл бұрын

@@suchnothing IT DOESNT MAKE SEEEEEEEEENSE

@LauncherSpiderMk7

Жыл бұрын

@@suchnothing He's so adamant about how filling it is, and then he says he eats like FIFTY pieces. That's like 70 bucks worth of sushi in some places.

@suchnothing

Жыл бұрын

@Jesus-kv8sf fr those are "all you can eat" restaurant numbers

Arin really loves starting shit no matter how insignificant. Reminds me of how Dan was telling Arin about how Brian correcting Dan over the name of the movie "An American Tail" caused damage to their sound room, and the point of the story was that their room got damaged over something stupid, only for Arin to keep interrupting Dan's story to insist that Brian was right, the movie was, in fact, called "An American Tail" and not "Fievel", and Dan was like "Oh my God, I told this story to the wrong person."

@arcticafrostbite617

Жыл бұрын

Fievel goes west specifically but yeah

@anaannna1594

Жыл бұрын

​@arcticafrostbite617 it's 2 different movies right?

@MrCraftingchannel

Жыл бұрын

​@@anaannna1594 Yes

@DTfan43

Жыл бұрын

​@@anaannna1594 There's An American Tail (1986) and An American Tail: Fievel Goes West (1991). So Dan had it right but he was only referring to it by part of its subtitle.

@McBehrer

Жыл бұрын

@@DTfan43 both of them are called An American Tail, not Tale

I know Arin plays this up a bit for entertainment but I love how you can tell these are all arguments he's had extensively with himself and is now going to get them out since he's got Dan as a captive audience. XD

The first argument so perfectly encapsulates most Game Grumps debates. Arin argues the ALMOST correct position with fervent passion (he's thinking of Leopard spots, not Cheetahs), and Dan is just too chill to press him on it or confirm with outside sources.

@devinnn39

Жыл бұрын

He’s definitely thinking of leopard spots but like .. even those definitely aren’t stripes 😅

@outcastedOpal

Жыл бұрын

Yeah but they aret stripes tho. Stripes have to be either bands or strips. On bees, theyre circular but theyre bands. On leopards they arent bands.

@burnin8able

Жыл бұрын

so true. same with the carcinization discussion. Arin heard a fact about how a particularly high number of different species became crab-like through convergent evolution and immediately decided to interpret that as "literally every species on earth will evolve into crabs."

@brianskelly4979

Жыл бұрын

@@burnin8able and probably missed any talk of "Decarcinization" that might have happened which also happens.

@EvaOwnsAll

Жыл бұрын

​@@outcastedOpal I liked Dan's rebuttal, "Those squares are just circles with points." Arin just sits and contemplates for a long while.

love how many of these clips are Arin being like "I want an argument and I will start one even if no one is there to argue with me"

@michaelsoltesz3779

Жыл бұрын

So social media was designed to make its users argue with each other. If Arin wasn’t connected to the internet and completely alone, he would create his own social media platform and play all the characters on it, with stuffed animals. Thank goodness for Patreon and Brain Medicine. 😳

"God, you are the Internet." huh. that one sentence really does explain everything about Arin huh?

@rikk9370

Жыл бұрын

Not really

@jahoytodiesforahoy4615

Жыл бұрын

At least for his stage presence 😂

“I feel like if crabs were at the top of the evolutionary chain, there wouldn’t be crab rolls at every restaurant. The crab overlords would’ve enslaved us…and they’d be serving human rolls” Holy shit this caught me off guard and I’m dying laughing.

21:10 Dan finally standing up for himself "I'm not a crab"... *"I'm a **_MAN"_*

@seanperone449

Жыл бұрын

"I'm forty!"

I love that youtube automatically categorized this as a Dan vs. episode

@kingrobotnik6950

Жыл бұрын

Awesome show, so good on KZread for once lol

@notsure1969

Жыл бұрын

Yeah that was pretty clever.

Double robo milk killed me when I heard it the first time because I had the exact same reaction as Dan. The confusion and the "oh I can see it now that you've explained each part of it." Seeing it again it killed me because this time I felt it from Arin's POV. The feeling when you assume your friend knows what you mean so you're comfortable using your mental shorthand which means nothing to most people but then... they don't. 💀

@bearded_snorlax

Жыл бұрын

As someone with ADHD, double robo milk guy is such a good representation of how ADHD thinking works lol

@jimmyjambag2230

Жыл бұрын

Can confirm. I instantly knew what he was talking about

@jimmyjambag2230

Жыл бұрын

And I, too, have ADHD

@snickle1980

Жыл бұрын

@@jimmyjambag2230 😮 Can we talk about how _delicious and wonderful the meds are,_ or is this an inappropriate setting? Adderal, has a sort of candy taste to it, and it worked great for a while, but I feel like Vyvance is where it's at. Harder, stronger, faster, etc... The only issues i run into... are the giant walls of text that no one but the elderly can stand to sit here and read. _(stand to sit here?)_ Anyway...I have ADHD as well. The meds are magical.

@ArixOdragc

Жыл бұрын

Has the same sort of energy as "Did you POINT?!"

"Well I think I would know, cos I watched a KZread video that was 8 minutes long" Wow in that moment Arin really was the Internet

Arin: *Long, angry monologue* Dan: I’m not gonna argue about whether water is wet or not

@maximuffin6395

Жыл бұрын

"It's NOT. Wet is an adjective applied to objects, water cannot be WET!"

@Nyahahameha

Жыл бұрын

@@maximuffin6395 Unironically this. By definition it only applies to solid state matter. What don't people get about this?

@zombieasparagus6021

Жыл бұрын

Humans can't sense whether we are wet or not we can only sense the change in temperature and the feel of the droplets moving on our skin.

@miguelnewmexico8641

Жыл бұрын

@@Nyahahameha you really didn't play outside much as a kid did you.

@Nyahahameha

Жыл бұрын

@@miguelnewmexico8641 Please, you think the injury that made me bleed from the top of my head happened indoors? I learned about solid state matter by letting my brain experience it firsthand.

Dan: I could pee on you right now. Arin: I would love that! Me: Did- did I accidentally click on another video?

@watershipup7101

Жыл бұрын

No, they're just wild like that.

@yeshevishman

Жыл бұрын

Nope. That's just normal Game Grumps.

@CrazeeAdam

Жыл бұрын

ANTHONY!

@andrewpappas9311

Жыл бұрын

Classic example of Gay Grumps

@monsterkingadversity6662

Жыл бұрын

My question is WHAT OTHER FUCKING VIDEO would be recommended to you that matches that description?! lol

The Snowpeak one is the equivalent of sitting in the back of your parents car while they argue over directions

@suchnothing

Жыл бұрын

I once sat in the back of my dad's car while he and his wife had a HEATED debate about how many traffic circles were in our city. For 20 minutes.

Stripes that go in a circle is literally the weirdest argument I ever heard.

@Hermititis

Ай бұрын

It could be a valid argument for...jaguars. Cheetahs have completely solid spots.

Fun Fact: All patterns on animals and even your fingers and limbs are created by a system called cellular automata and the only difference between a stripe, spots, splotches, etc is the timing of chemical reaction waves that propagate across the cells.

@GameGrumps

Жыл бұрын

So you’re not saying that cheetahs don’t not have spots 🤔

"We've never had an argument" - Arin and Dan, newly weds powerhour with Supermega

Dan : *blinks* Arin : "So let me tell you why my thought process outshines yours!" 😂These two are the best pair I've found ever on KZread.

26:14 I've not watched their Elden Ring series because I want to play it myself first, and hearing Dan saying "Hey Arin. Ratio" sent me into a wild laughing fit

Two favorite parts: Dan confessing to be the anti-crab. And Arin dying as he talks about "Talk shit, get hit."

Arin and Danny arguing gives me peace for some reason. Much love and great job at creator clash Arin!!

arin is truly the embodiment of the brennan lee mulligan quote "i will die on any hill" and i love that for him

Dan's near constant exhaustion is fucking sending me... Just Arin constantly, apropos of nothing, "what absolutely absurd hill i die on today? CHEETAHS HAVE STRIPES!" and Dans futile attempt to reel him in... True brotherhood

Half of this is just Arin talking circles around Dan, confusing himself and forgetting what was being argued. I love it.

Dan: “You have to be 100% insane about EVERYTHING. ALL the time.” Arin: “IT’S NOT INSANE! IT’S COOL!” Lmfao

Listening to Danny and Arin argue about whether stripes are circles while the Super Mario World theme plays in the background inspired the type of joy that I needed this day. Thank you.

listening to this without context sounds like an episode of dan just making casual innocuous statements and arin deciding to pick every single fight he can unprompted, and i love it

"The greatest debates" More like Arin screaming and pushing his personal opinion the loudest while Dan just wants to chill and pokes fun at him, lol.

This whole compilation made me think of the Sonic playthrough where things got a little heated about the "lack of save states" in the emulator they were using Dan kept suggesting that maybe the feature was in a menu that Arin didn't check Arin swore up and down that they didn't exist in the emulator, and episodes/hours went by...just to find out that there actually were save states the whole time Dan got to a point where he said something along the lines of "friendship with you is agony" Which made me crack up laughing, but man you could really feel the heat coming off that one True friendship shit right there

How could you not include the iconic "Raphael is not the leader! HE'S NOT!"

Dan threatening to pee on Arin, and his response might be my favorite thing they've said on the show. After 10 years, this is what it's come to. Instead of threatening to body slam or throw him out the window, Dan now threatens to pee on him as a sign of dominance. I guess being married has changed them. They just don't care what the internet thinks of their commentary to each other. Dan went from being completely surprised about the D-club to openly flirting and making silly threats of peeing on Arin. 10 years sure changes a person. And yet not all that much.

Arin ranting and Dan refusing to engage while Arin gets even angrier compilation

arin: trying to debate dan dan: *arin please no*

Arin is like the husband who won't take direction from anyone else and relies only on his lack of knowledge, thinking its the right solution because *he* can't be wrong.

Oh my god I haven't thought about the "circular stripes" argument in a long time. I can't get over how completely unhinged Arin sounds when he's trying to substitute his own reality into our own😂 Also all these years later, I'm still amazed that they went out of their way to censor the segments where Arin and Dan say you see Din Djarin's face in The Mandalorian. Think that ship's sailed, guys.

I like that you guys bothered to replace The Mandalorian spoiler with Arin's Barney Rubble joke like 5 times but then left the full spoiler in @10:20 anyway.

Dans totally right on the sushi debate it’s amazing but yeah it lasts like 40 minutes in my stomach

The big problem with Arins argument for a hamburger being a sandwich is him portraying Burger King as any kind of authority on hamburgers.

@hannahrose13420

Жыл бұрын

of course they're the authority. theyre burger KING

@dylanparry8364

Жыл бұрын

Yeah, that was a weird line of argument since there are multiple videos of Arin shitting on BK and then he calls it “the king” because it fits his argument 😂

@Neezy2635

11 ай бұрын

This made me laugh out loud for real, because my work puts burgers and sandwiches in different categories. It's just even funnier than that the place called Burger King doesn't have any kind of authority on hamburgers I just love that thought like why would the f*** would you name it Burger King then! LOL😂😂😂

@legion999

10 ай бұрын

Umm they're called Burger KING for a reason

Mummy and father are fighting again 😂

Ally flawlessly jumping in on the crab debate was pure gold.

I'll just have "the Mandalorian takes off his helmet" replaced with "Barney Rubble is Fred Flinstone's friend". You did... Except this one time

In the 1st clip I'm 90% sure Arin is thinking of Leopards and not cheetahs cause Cheetahs have spots, leopards have spots and rings

Most of these are just Arin triggering himself while Dan tries yo minimize emotional distress

The crab thing is called carcinization.

I can only imagine what the conversation would be like for these two on a road trip.... Arin: You told me to go right Dan: I did not, I said left go left. You never listen to me. Arin: I DIDN'T HEAR YOU!!! 😂

the best part about the Cheetah debate, is that I know what Arin was thinking of when saying circular stripes... but he was thinking of a leopard not a cheetah and that is what makes it even funnier.

I will take the time to appreciate and tell that I'm glad the channel brought back the episode numbers and compilation signifier in video titles :)

@MrSpartan993

Жыл бұрын

Saaaame.

I love how they have the same argument twice. Arin is so passionate about hamburgers

@mattlane5632

Жыл бұрын

More than taking a shit?

Man, you really notice how none of these start as arguments, Arin just turns them into arguments for like no reason. 😂

Ally coming through with the "crabification dude" was amazing lmao

@segamai

Жыл бұрын

That was my favorite part because for once Arin was right (despite wording it in the wrongest way possible) and Ally came in clutch with her cryptid-like glee

@wildbard4112

Жыл бұрын

​@@segamai How was Arin right?

@Keyecomposer

Жыл бұрын

@@wildbard4112 Because as i was listening to it i mutated into a crab so clearly he's right.

@Shyronnieismycat

Жыл бұрын

​@@wildbard4112 because everyone will eventually be crab

@magenstaffarts

Жыл бұрын

And yet the term is actually "carcinization"

"Well I know because I've seen a KZread video that was 8 minutes long" was a fucking superb joke that Dan would have died laughing at if he wasn't already mad 😂

Fun fact, there are no debates on Game Grumps: Arin says something stupid, Dan responds with facts, and then Arin gets frustrated.

The cheetah stripe thing is incredible on so many levels, it's one of my favorite of these "debates". First him saying a circle is a stripe that meets at the end is insane and I love that he argues so passionately about it, especially bringing up bees where they're in a circle by being on a round creature. Then of course, he's not thinking of cheetahs with his description of the stripes, cheetahs have spots, he's thinking of a Jaguar. You could make an argument that some parts of the jaguar have stripes, but most is the circles are a bunch of the circles and they become spots further down the body. It's just such an absurd hill to die on and it makes me laugh every time I hear it

Dan dropping the "Ratio" left me a puddle of laughter. Especially cos he followed it by admitting he has no idea what it means

I need a compilation of every time Dan tells arin to stop yelling at him🤣🤣🤣

@MrJholshouser41

Жыл бұрын

Same. I'm thinking of getting premium so I can dl clips. The one that always pops up in my mind is from Pokemon Red. Arin is getting excited about something in the safari zone and Dan says, sleepily, stop yelling at me lol

Classics. The Hotdog not having two distinct slices of bread part kills me because a lot of subs are made the exact same way.

@arcticafrostbite617

Жыл бұрын

my counter to those folks: A hotdog is a Taco. and a poptart is a stromboli.

@junebunny0712

Жыл бұрын

I have people tell me subs aren’t sandwhiches for that exact reason…. I don’t agree with them, but I’ve heard the arguement be made.

thank you so much for putting game names and part numbers in the video titles again! 🙏

As someone very interested in evolutionary biology “everything evolves into crabs because well they become lobsters right” is one of the greatest things ive ever heard😂😂

When Arin sits down and makes a concise and well thought out argument it ends up being one of the best videos on KZread, but when he actually argues in person about anything its unbearable

If this doesn’t have the grape ape a kaiju debate it isn’t complete

"TALK SHIT GET HIT MAN!" *instantly get parried and one shotted . If that's not irony I don't know anything anymore

I don't usually watch GG compilations but I actually enjoyed this one. All things become ✨crab✨

Arin ranting abt crabs was so cute

Arin "I will die on this hill" Handson and Daniel "I am too old for this sh*t" Avidan

I think Danny is too chilled out about having a debate on anything, it's mostly like "yeah you're right" or "I guess it is" lol. The only time I remember where he really debated something was the ninja turtles thing on raph being the leader instead if leo 😅

i’ve grown to absolutely love compilations of game grumps because of how stupidly funny they’ll be

These compilations are basically lofi for the lovelies and I ship it! Love these boys! AND ARIN F***ING KILLED IT AT CREATOR CLASH!

Dan's used the R.Kelly defense on Arin to solve a problem by peeing on someone

The way Dan says "I AM A MAN!" As Arin and Allie are pushing him for crabification sounds exactly like one of those old sci-fi movies where a robotic man goes "I AM HUMAN!"

What a perfect time for Game Grumps to upload, right as I go to sleep. Now I can sleep to a new compilation

@snickle1980

Жыл бұрын

the screaming doesnt wake you up?

@MATCHAPUDDIN

Жыл бұрын

​@@snickle1980 you can...turn down the volume...

@snickle1980

Жыл бұрын

@@MATCHAPUDDIN But then I cant hear the lower talking and whispering, just the screaming... the screaming is quieter when i turn it down....But now i cant hear Dan at all. First world problems. =)

@alanfish91

Жыл бұрын

Sweet dreams!

@Firomus

Жыл бұрын

@@alanfish91 They were very sweet

The whole sandwich debate.. it’s great practice when/if Dan has kids 😆 his sigh is one of many I have had when debating my children.

I forgot how many of these debates begin by Arin refusing to drop something

Arin's argument for a punching clause for mean people on Twitter honestly sounds like a Socrates level suggestion nowadays.

DOUBLE ROBO MILK might be the funniest thing Arin Hanson has ever said

I love "everything becomes crab"

I needed this compilation. Thank you 💜

Hell yeah, this is what this monday night needs right now. Thanks Sbassbear!!

40 minutes of Arin holding Dan emotionally hostage holy shit.

Arin knows just enough to start an argument, but not enough to finish it.

@DemonFireRain

9 ай бұрын

This is 100% accurate

Someone is probably already talking about it, but carcinization, probably spelt that wrong, is a phenomena within evolution where a bunch of arthropods that aren't crabs have evolved, convergently, into more crab like forms.

Whoever decided to edit out every Mandalorian spoiler EXCEPT the last one is a comedic genius.

Ah, yes. 36 minutes of Arin trying to goad Dan into debating him and Dan being to chill to do that.

Hey arin a new crab was just discovered and it is terrifying.

Great compilation, no idea why it's only in the playlist!

1:55 The twilight princess bit is great 😂 Mommy and daddy arguing about directions

Congrats again to Big Cat on the big win!!