What’s your favorite book or talk by Dan?❤

@sulljoh1

27 күн бұрын

From Bacteria to Bach and Back

@Gabriel-lg2xo

27 күн бұрын

Consciousness Explained

@chadreilly

27 күн бұрын

I gave Elbow Room and 8/10.

@YordieSands

25 күн бұрын

Consciousness Explained... Dan's considerations of the Cartesian Theater were a foundational element in my studies of artificial intelligence. It can lead to an especially dangerous pathway to AI, but for a software engineer (at least me, that is) it is within the realm of possibilities.

@philipmay6003

25 күн бұрын

"Darwin's Dangerous Idea", "From Bacteria to Bach and Back"

RIP Daniel Dennett ❤

@t5kcannon1

28 күн бұрын

Well said. The passing of a great intellect and kind, and generous man.

@PrincipledUncertainty

28 күн бұрын

Damn. I didn't know until I read the title. It's a disgrace that the MSM weren't giving him a fitting send off.

@sulljoh1

28 күн бұрын

Can we say something like Dan's famous "Thank goodness" to honor him now?

@newtonbelieved

27 күн бұрын

Sad to lose another of the 4 Aries Horsemen. Still, we have Harris, Dillahunty and O'Connor who will still be around for much longer. p.s. Alice Bailey said you normally reincarnate the next sign ahead. So, grandchildren of Daniel, keep on the lookout for a Taurus. If you have one in the next few years, remember to say, "Hello Daniel!" We all go on and on.

@BlakeMiller

27 күн бұрын

@@sulljoh1 Dan is up in heaven now

A Brilliant mind .One of the greatest philosophers of our time. Rest in pease Mr Dennet.

@JagadguruSvamiVegananda

27 күн бұрын

Brilliant and lacklustre are RELATIVE. 😉 Incidentally, Slave, are you VEGAN? 🌱

Condolences to his family, loved ones, and friends. 🙏

It is so heartwarming to see and hear Daniel one last time. Thank you for this talk, both of you. Rest in peace .

@JagadguruSvamiVegananda

27 күн бұрын

Good Girl! 👌 Incidentally, Slave, are you VEGAN? 🌱

I'm fairly angry that I only found out after seeing this video in my feed. Where is his tribute in the press? Thanks for this gift.

@DrBrianKeating

28 күн бұрын

You’re welcome. Please share it

@PrincipledUncertainty

28 күн бұрын

@@DrBrianKeating I deliberately have no reach, having opted out of most social media some time ago. I doubt most modern day journalists could define a compatibilist with a gun to their head. They should read more and scroll less.

@thephilosophicalagnostic2177

28 күн бұрын

I've seen several online from major newspapers.

@Yezzrty

28 күн бұрын

I was thinking that too when I opened video

@JagadguruSvamiVegananda

27 күн бұрын

philosophy: the love of wisdom, normally encapsulated within a formal academic discipline. Wisdom is the soundness of an action or decision with regard to the application of experience, knowledge, insight, and good judgment. Wisdom may also be described as the body of knowledge and principles that develops within a specified society or period. E.g. “The wisdom of the Tibetan lamas.” Unfortunately, in most cases in which this term is used, particularly outside India, it tacitly or implicitly refers to ideas and ideologies that are quite far-removed from genuine wisdom. For instance, the typical academic philosopher, especially in the Western tradition, is not a lover of actual wisdom, but a believer in, or at least a practitioner of, adharma, which is the ANTITHESIS of genuine wisdom. Many Western academic (so-called) “philosophers” are notorious for using laborious sophistry, abstruse semantics, gobbledygook, and pseudo-intellectual word-play, in an attempt to justify their blatantly-immoral ideologies and practices, and in many cases, fooling the ignorant layman into accepting the most horrendous crimes as not only normal and natural, but holy and righteous! An ideal philosopher, on the other hand, is one who is sufficiently intelligent to understand that morality is, of necessity, based on the law of non-violence (“ahiṃsā”, in Sanskrit), and sufficiently wise to live his or her life in such a harmless manner. Cf. “dharma”. One of the greatest misconceptions of modern times is the belief that philosophers (and psychologists, especially) are, effectively, the substitutes for the priesthood of old. It is perhaps understandable that this misconception has taken place, because the typical priest/monk/rabbi/mullah seems to be an uneducated buffoon compared with those highly-educated gentlemen who have attained doctorates in philosophy, psychology and psychiatry. However, as mentioned in more than a few places in this book, it is imperative to understand that only an infinitesimal percentage of all those who claim to be spiritual teachers are ACTUAL “brāhmaṇa” (as defined in Chapter 20). Therefore, the wisest philosophers of the present age are still those exceptionally rare members of the Holy Priesthood! At the very moment these words of mine are being typed on my laptop computer, there are probably hundreds of essay papers, as well as books and articles, being composed by professional philosophers and theologians, both within and without academia. None of these papers, and almost none of the papers written in the past, will have any noticeable impact on human society, at least not in the realm of morals and ethics, which is obviously the most vital component of civilization. And, as mentioned in a previous paragraph, since such “lovers-of-wisdom” are almost exclusively adharmic (irreligious and corrupt) it is indeed FORTUITOUS that this is the case. The only (so-called) philosophers who seem to have any perceptible influence in the public arena are “pop” or “armchair” philosophers, such as Mrs. Alisa “Alice” O’Connor (known more popularly by her pen name, Ayn Rand), almost definitely due to the fact that they have published well-liked books and/or promulgate their ideas in the mass media, especially on the World Wide Web.

RIP. We lost a great one!

Rest in peace Dr. Dennett

A beautiful and brilliant Thinker. I m thankful to be able reading his books and listening to him. ❤

I had no idea he had passed away. A great man, a great thinker. Those who listened not recently saw how much he emphasized the threats of artificial intelligence in that it can damage trust between humans. A great man, I learned a lot from him. Rest in peace.

@karagi101

28 күн бұрын

That is the most immediate danger. We will no longer know what is real vs created by AI.

What I great mind. Professor Dennett’s scholarship and public speaking will help guide humanity to greater peace, less superstition, and greater thriving. A life very well lived. Thanks, Dr. Dennett

Wspaniały Filozof, smutne że już go nie ma 😮 Genialny Człowiek, bylam po stronie Denneta całym sercem😀❤😥

I was stunned and sad to hear of Dennett's passing. I've read several of his books with great ineterest.

Respect to Dan Dennett for his immense intellect, nifty insights, thoughtful viewpoints, subtle summaries and vigorous wisecracks. A life well lived is examined and the unknown is what it really is. 🙏

Wonlderful and a fitting tribute. His laugh at your talk's title made me smile, too.

Daniel Dennett taught us all how to think ❤ Remember what he said 🙏

So sad to hear about his passing. Great interview of course. I always wanted to interview him - I’m glad that he was prolific.

This is a beautiful tribute to a great man. I first heard of Dan when I saw his book “Consciousness Explained”. While I didn’t agree with all he had to say, he was an engaging speaker with a brilliant mind. The world is a little poorer with his loss. RIP Dan🙏

@JagadguruSvamiVegananda

27 күн бұрын

Brilliant and lacklustre are RELATIVE. 😉 Incidentally, Slave, are you VEGAN? 🌱

Thank you for your brave contributions Daniel, RIP sir, we LOVE YOU for standing up for the truth! Free will is simply ⚔⚔ *_Awareness to the power of x (irrefutable logic that is)_* ⚔⚔. Much love, truth and reason and may nothing else prevail upon this earth in this brief existence of ours! May we learn to have gratitude where we fail to, may we live with the same courage as Daniel! ❤

RIP Daniel Dennett. You were one of those who helped me free myself of religion.

Thank you, Brian. This was a wonderful interview. Daniel's kind and perceptive personality really shines through. It's is very sad that he is gone. I remember him from The Mind's I, which I read in my younger days, and was blown away by.

Great questions, provocative ideas, and a good faith discussion. Real glad you allowed to him to speak as much as he did. May he rest in peace. 🙏

One of the most important things about this channel and the podcast space is capturing these people and their ideas for the future. Thanks!

Great stream. I never heard of dr Daniel Dennett before the stream with dr Peterson a few days/weeks ago, i twee ted him right after i finished watching it. I like Cmess very much and also his Belief and desire to intention to action explanation, very good. Too bad i never heard of him before, would have love to have a chat with him, i never met anyone who thinks like he did in reallife, some of the things that bother me also bothered him. Im not much of a reader but i have to check his work out. I think he was a great thinker and or philosopher and from my experience there are not many like him, Ive never seen one🙂 But i havent heard about him untill recently. To everyone who knew him, my condolences🙏

What a perfect conversation to go out on. See you in Valhalla Daniel!😉

@DrBrianKeating

27 күн бұрын

🙏

Wonderful conversation, Very touching. Unfortunately/fortunately very timely. I appreciated being updated on his view regarding AI.

He was a great man. Thank you, Mr. Dennett

Gave a thumbs up wish I could have given more. What a wonderful mind.

@DrBrianKeating

28 күн бұрын

Thank you kindly! Please share it 🙏

I read his latest book, what a life. I been reading Daniel Dennett books since 1989. I reread all his books again and found Elbow Room 1984 that is base on free will. Yes, I read Determined by Robert Saposky He stood his ground. Great man. Evolution is being human and free will.

@chadreilly

28 күн бұрын

I read Elbow Room. I liked it. I thought he made a good case AGAINST free will in it, but was afraid to take a stand. Freedom Evolves I dropped after a couple chapters IIRC

@karagi101

28 күн бұрын

How does he deal with the fact that we now can see, using fMRI, thoughts form in study subjects before they are conscious of the thoughts?

@JagadguruSvamiVegananda

27 күн бұрын

🐟 11. FREE-WILL Vs DETERMINISM: Just as the autonomous beating of one's heart is governed by one's genes (such as the presence of a congenital heart condition), and the present-life conditioning of the heart (such as myocardial infarction as a consequence of the consumption of excessive fats and oils, or heart palpitations due to severe emotional distress), each and EVERY thought and action is governed by our genes and environmental conditioning. This teaching is possibly the most difficult concept for humans to accept, because we refuse to believe that we are not the author of our thoughts and actions. From the appearance of the pseudo-ego (one’s inaccurate conception of oneself) at the age of approximately two and a half, we have been constantly conditioned by our parents, teachers, and society, to believe that we are solely responsible for our thoughts and deeds. This deeply-ingrained belief is EXCRUCIATINGLY difficult to abandon, which is possibly the main reason why there are very few persons extant who are spiritually-enlightened, or at least who are liberated from the five manifestations of mental suffering explained elsewhere in this “Final Instruction Sheet for Humanity”, since suffering (as opposed to pain) is predicated solely upon the erroneous belief in free-will. Free-will is usually defined as the ability for a person to make a conscious decision to do otherwise, that is to say, CHOOSE to have performed an action other than what one has already done, if one had been given the opportunity to do so. To make it perfectly clear, if one, for example, is handed a restaurant menu with several dishes listed, one could decide that one dish is equally-desirable as the next dish, and choose either option. If humans truly possessed freedom of will, then logically speaking, a person who adores cats and detests dogs, ought to be able to suddenly switch their preferences at any given point in time, or even voluntarily pause the beating of his or her own heart! So, in both of the aforementioned examples, there is a pre-existing preference (at a given point in time) for one particular dish or pet. Even if a person liked cats and dogs EQUALLY, and one was literally forced to choose one over the other, that choice isn’t made freely, but entirely based upon the person’s genetic code plus the individual's up-to-date conditioning. True equality is non-existent in the phenomenal sphere. The most common argument against determinism is that humans (unlike other animals) have the ability to choose what they can do, think or feel. First of all, many species of (higher) mammals also make choices. For instance, a cat can see two birds and choose which one to prey upon, or choose whether or not to play with a ball that is thrown its way, depending on its conditioning (e.g. its mood). That choices are made is indisputable, but those choices are dependent ENTIRELY upon one’s genes and conditioning. There is no third factor involved on the phenomenal plane. On the noumenal level, thoughts and deeds are in accordance with the preordained “Story of Life”. Read previous chapters of “F.I.S.H” to understand how life is merely a dream in the “mind of the Divine” and that human beings are, essentially, that Divinity in the form of dream characters. Chapter 08, specifically, explains how an action performed in the present is the result of a chain of causation, all the way back to the earliest-known event in our apparently-real universe (the so-called “Big Bang” singularity). At this point, it should be noted that according to reputable geneticists, it is possible for genes to mutate during the lifetime of any particular person. However, that phenomenon would be included under the “conditioning” aspect. The genes mutate according to whatever conditioning is imposed upon the human organism. It is simply IMPOSSIBLE for a person to use sheer force of will to change their own genetic code. Essentially, “conditioning” includes everything that acts upon a person from conception. University studies in recent years have demonstrated, by the use of hypnosis and complex experimentation, that CONSCIOUS volition is either unnecessary for a decision to be enacted upon or (in the case of hypnotic testing) that free-will choices are completely superfluous to actions. Because scientific research into free-will is a recent phenomenon, it is recommended that the reader search online for the latest findings. If any particular volitional act was not caused by the preceding thoughts and actions, then the only alternative explanation would be due to RANDOMNESS. Many quantum physicists claim that subatomic particles can randomly move in space, but true randomness cannot occur in a deterministic universe. Just as the typical person believes that two motor vehicles colliding together was the result of pure chance (therefore the term “accident”), quantum physicists are unable to see that the seeming randomness of quantum particles are, in fact, somehow determined by each and every preceding action which led-up to the act in question. It is a known scientific fact that a random number generator cannot exist, since no computational machine or software program is able to make the decision to generate a number at “random”. We did not choose which deoxyribonucleic acid our biological parents bequeathed to us, and most all the conditions to which we were exposed throughout our lives, yet we somehow believe that we are fully-autonomous beings, with the ability to feel, think and behave as we desire. The truth is, we cannot know for certain what even our next thought will be. Do we DECIDE to choose our thoughts and deeds? Not likely. Does an infant choose to learn how to walk or to begin speaking, or does it just happen automatically, according to nature? Obviously, the toddler begins to walk and to speak according to its genes (some children are far more intelligent and verbose, and more agile than others, depending on their genetic code) and according to all the conditions to which he or she has been exposed so far (some parents begin speaking to their kids even while they are in the womb, or expose their offspring to highly-intellectual dialogues whilst still in the cradle). Even those decisions/choices that we seem to make are entirely predicated upon our genes and conditioning, and cannot be free in any sense of the word. To claim that one is the ULTIMATE creator of one’s thoughts and actions is tantamount to believing that one created one’s very being. If a computer program or artificially-intelligent robot considered itself to be the cause of its activity, it would seem absurd to the average person. Yet, that is precisely what virtually every person who has ever lived mistakenly believes of their own thoughts and deeds. The IMPRESSION that we have free-will can be considered a “Gift of Life” or “God’s Grace”, otherwise, we may be resentful of our lack of free-will, since, unlike other creatures, we humans have the intelligence to comprehend our own existence. Even an enlightened sage, who has fully realized that he is not the author of his thoughts and actions, is not conscious of his lack of volition at every moment of his day. At best, he may recall his lack of freedom during those times where suffering (as opposed to mere pain) begins to creep-in to the mind or intellect. Many, if not most scientists, particularly academic philosophers and physicists, accept determinism to be the most logical and reasonable alternative to free-will, but it seems, at least anecdotally, that they rarely (if ever) live their lives conscious of the fact that their daily actions are fated. Cont...

@chadreilly

27 күн бұрын

​@@karagi101 I don't think Dennett deals with that at all. I think he would shrug and say, "sure, that just means everything you do is predestined, but being predestined doesn't mean you don't have free will." To which most of us say, WTF? Dennett would say all our notions of free will aren't mature enough, and that we have free will, even though we don't. It's pretty crazy.

@karagi101

27 күн бұрын

@@chadreilly Sounds like the issue has to do with how we define and understand what free will is.

Amazing! Thank you Dr. and RIP

@DrBrianKeating

28 күн бұрын

My pleasure!

No question, Dan was The Man.

The great man has crossed the final frontier, RIP sir. Thanks for unlocking within me incredible thoughts for me to contemplate.

@JagadguruSvamiVegananda

27 күн бұрын

Great and lowly are RELATIVE. 😉 Incidentally, Slave, are you VEGAN? 🌱

RIP and also an epic conversation on free will!

Thank you for this interview. You covered a lot of ground and I think this video makes a good starting point for diving into Dennett's thoughts on a wide variety of topics.

@DrBrianKeating

28 күн бұрын

Glad it was helpful!

there’s is no fee will we are evolving with the universe

Dan was an incredibly kind, brilliant and compassionate person. He was the best of us.

@JagadguruSvamiVegananda

27 күн бұрын

Brilliant and lacklustre are RELATIVE. 😉 Incidentally, Slave, are you VEGAN? 🌱

I'm going to start watching your brilliant interviews more, Brian, as I have been taking a break from them. They are great! I'm going to miss Dan. He was a remarkable thinker and nice guy above all. I figured out while listening to you and him talk that scientific current events should always be studied alongside with regular current events so as to benefit from a deep connection between the two histories. Normally I turn away from the news, but scientific current events provide a sweetener for the digestion of regular news events because they are entangled in our time. Also, I love the idea to test computers to see if they can tell the difference between feeling gravity or feeling acceleration which the Einstein experiment so famously blurred. Thank you again for all of this. I like to think of your title, "Into the Impossible" sometimes as "Into the Counterfactual," and I appreciate the Shakespearean way how you and those you interview listen not just to each other but develop by listening and overhearing yourselves speak, and how that overhearing yourselves makes you change as a result.

I love Dennett! He was brilliant! RIP! His arguments for fee will are still deeply unpersuasive and his strawman of free will skepticism remains unconvincing. In Just Deserts he got completely dismantled by Gregg Caruso on this topic.

Rip Dr Dennett🌹

Sorry to hear he was a legend RIP Mr dennett

The more Dan Dennett talked the more he solidified the argument for no free-will.

@TheSpeedOfC

21 күн бұрын

What is it that makes you disbelieve in free will? Wouldnt be *free choice* now would it?

@alandiehl3619

17 күн бұрын

Read Robert Sapolskys book: Determined. Free will doesn’t exist. Full stop. The evidence couldn’t be any stronger

@CALIJOE13

14 күн бұрын

@@TheSpeedOfCI don’t understand your point.

I disagree with him on free will , but what a great man!

Daniel lives on in this interview, and his work, RIP Daniel ☯☸💖

@Eye_Of_The_Pyramid

28 күн бұрын

"Ying and yang? Duality? What is this rubbish? This isn't rational, there's no evidence" -Dan Dennet

Daniel Clement Dennett III March 28, 1942 - April 19, 2024 A great man I always enjoy watching his videos and will continue to do so. Brilliant man!

Greatest American philosopher of naturalism since John Dewey (1859-1952).

RIP. A gentleman with a great contribution to humanity. Brian--you're an inspiration and do beautiful work. Thank you. Only one suggestion, however, to please upgrade your weird collection of black velvet astronomical and geological art to something classical and perhaps figurative, for instance.

Legend pioneer

I loved Dr. Daniel Dennett, very sad to hear about his passing, I've would have loved to meet him, he was my absolute favorite, an intellectual giant, a legend, true sage, heard he was also very kind gentle person, huge loss to civilization, I will watch tons of his lectures in the next few weeks in his memory, I made a playlist of his lectures and interviews for myself to work through, listening to Dr Dennett lectures would be my idea of Heaven 1:17:31

RIP Daniel Dennett. It's heartening that there are/were some atheists who haven't lost their minds.

Rest in piece you stud. Happy you've made it through this life and can sleep now 🙏 (Though you didnt seem THAT tired!)🎉

To the only nonexistent consciousness who had free will! 🎉

Hi, sad news, rest in peace, Mr.Dennett.

My condolences to Dan's family and friends. My 2 cents on freewill, I agree in part that self control plays a role, however, the rewiring of the brain also contributes to showing self control. A life time of being in allostatic load that may have been caused from not having the pre frontal cortex functioning properly. What future does an individual have to look forward to?A prisoner in poverty?

miss him already

Oh, very sad. I did go to one of his lectures a few years back, Greatly missed.

Never heard of him until today when this came up

Oh no! He was lots of fun.

Self control gives us the illusion free will. A very convincing illusion that is effectively indistinguishable from free will from our own perspective, but still an illusion.

What we have in the west is Blavatsky, Steiner, Freud and Young. Not to forget Jack Parsons. In my kids eye I see paperclip and a shadow wearing a military cap. A shadow that jumps into strawberry fields folding and folding as it gathers up escapes to return back to the place where there is no change.

I'm a theist, but I know a good man when I see one. Daniel Dennett was definitely a good man. RIP.

@sulljoh1

28 күн бұрын

I met him once for lunch and he struck me as honest above all else. You theists have it easy. You get your friends to live on after death. We just have to deal with it ❤️

Dennett thinks with great clarity.

@DrBrianKeating

28 күн бұрын

I think so too!

Great mind, rest in peace.

Oh wow, RIP Dan D

"Secrets have their place," says it all.🙈🙉🙊

@8:50 Sounds like describing Braitenberg vehicles

We have the free will to impact the evolution of consciousness by imperceptibly affecting the direction of our focus. For example we can move to the right by focusing on the right, causing wave to particle transitions where directed. We have the free will to explore different economic systems by focusing on the logical justification for the ones which best serves the purposes of the audiences which we choose to serve, be it the consumer or the consumed, be it the preacher or the prey.

@rotpeter9148

28 күн бұрын

Incorrect.

@stephengee4182

28 күн бұрын

@@rotpeter9148 Experiments have shown that memories are not stored only in the brain, since the immortal flatworm planeria (composed of 20% stem cells) demonstrate the ability to retain trained behavior after decapitation and given the time to regrow new heads. Under general anesthesia, Planaria also temporarily lose the memory of how to regrow their heads, sometimes regrowing the head of other species.

@stephengee4182

28 күн бұрын

@@rotpeter9148 Why do we like music? Probably because consciousness is the quantum wave and the music of your preference resonances with fractals of your current quantum harmonies of being.

@stephengee4182

27 күн бұрын

@@rotpeter9148 Where do particles and the physical universe come from? Science tells us that particles in our physical universe arise out of the quantum waves resonating throughout the span of eternity.

“Am I good enough to have imposter syndrome” is genius.

RIP Mr Dennett I am British and a theist may God have mercy on his Soul rejecting his existence

Dennett: "Truth Matters".

but can we learn to love if we are not shown love?

Wondering if we're going to be relegated to " novelty nodes"to provide data for compute. Which means we will be manipulated into responding to prompts that are more geared towards engagement much like AI currently responds to prompts

What is most inspiring this morning Brian, is the authenticity of your understanding and gratitude of the privilege the universe bestowed upon you, of all the 8 billion souls on space ship Earth, today. ✨ Noble > Nobel 🏅 Grateful for the generosity of your work in this rulial shard of reality. Through your work and other interviewers like you we are all able to "surround ourselves with the smartest people we can find" on a scale unprecedented in human history. 🙏

May you fly high and meet your loved ones on the other side. May the gods rejoice in your soul meeting with your highest power . May your story and time on earth keep your time and work on this earth for eternity! Until we all meet again. Blessed be.❤

@jps0117

28 күн бұрын

Satire?

@tomsmithtom5-yf6ig

28 күн бұрын

there are no gods and you won't meet with anybody and also there is no other side. hahahaa

@Jill_Clarke

28 күн бұрын

The funny thing is you are correct in one way and not in others. The meaning of the other side.. are we talking spiritually or darkness and light. There is always an opposite otherwise there would be no balance. Like the Bible it talks about day , night z light, darkness this is also a mind Bender. The thing is not one can force you to believe that there is an after life... That would be taking away your free will . But I will tell you , that you sir have a lot of trauma and hurt from your past and I really hope you one day will be able to see that there is hope and there is time that your sadness and the prison in your mind of being unsafe will come to a close. I'm not being hateful or judgemental but if you believe this is it. And there is no tomorrow? Then I can imagine your mind set . I hope you find joy and open your mind that think of the possibilities that we have in earth when you met your mind just think outside the box I don't know a person who doesn't hope there is a life after that you will see those you lost friends and family again Because honestly I think that would be a lonely and horrible existence if you feel that way.. I hope you find peace and happiness in your life...

@jps0117

28 күн бұрын

@@Jill_Clarke Living forever and seeing my dead family again are horrifying prospects. I am perfectly happy with this delimited life.

@Jill_Clarke

28 күн бұрын

@@jps0117 I understand. Most people who have passed are from accidents or horrific times when they have passed . That's very traumatic.. But just understand that when you have good memories of these lost ones just know they are projecting to you the memories because they want you to remember them . I know I don't think like regular people but I told have lost many especially since COVID. My perception helps me heal. I don't mean to push my belief on anyone. But maybe the way I think may help others. Thanks for not being crude or mean. Have a wonderful blessed day 💖

The problem of free will is usually in the definition. This conversation failed to define what free will is. What Mr Dennet says is free will is not free will but decision making. Those things are different. Computers and animals can make decisions but they don't have free will.

@toondesmarets3033

27 күн бұрын

Weird that Dennett never has understood what you correctly say. For me, with respect of free will, he is a ‘philosophical imposter’

@QuintEssential-sz2wn

24 күн бұрын

You’ve misrepresented Dennett. His argument for and description of free will is much richer than what you’ve just described. For instance, you’ve left out the aspect of moral responsibility, which Dennett argues for in detail. In fact, in this very interview, he made explicit the difference between entities that can represent their reasons to one another, and those that can’t. So you simply ignored aspects of his argument. It would be nice to see one of Dennett’s critics, not strawman his arguments for once.

@dzikdziki2983

24 күн бұрын

@@QuintEssential-sz2wn Being able to create a story that explains your actions or reasoning doesn't make you a Free will agent. AI can do that without issues. Free will is impossible by the laws of physics as we know it.

@QuintEssential-sz2wn

23 күн бұрын

@@dzikdziki2983 You are simply question-begging against compatibilism. (Very, very common in free will skeptics). The claim that Free Will is impossible by the laws of physics" is a dead giveaway of this - you've simply assumed some concept of free will that is impossible; you haven't argued why one should accept whatever you claim to be "Free Will." Dennett's account, meticulously outlined in his work, is entirely compatible with physics. In fact, typical of compatibilist cases, physics is what makes free will possible. In order to be a rational and reliable agent, able to choose from among a variety of possible actions I'm capable of, I want reliable cause and effect and a generally reliable physical world!

@dzikdziki2983

23 күн бұрын

@@QuintEssential-sz2wn Sure i agree. You can't predict in chaos. But the reliable cause and effect universe you live in is exactly what makes free will impossible. It makes predicting the future to some degree possible but that is not free will. You make no choices. Your brain is just constantly predicting the future to the best degree it can. It gives us an illusion of free will but its just a response from an incomplete calculation. I think we stumble on to the same problem this whole conversation has. What do you mean by free will exactly?

Rest in the heavenly realms, old boy. Now you know all about consciousness!

Free will? It's important to build a good foundation of values and have mentors when growing up. Building upon good decisions helps the next decisions and so on... People fall behind in their good decisions and don't know where to start. Start today.

RIP DANIEL DENNETT❤

A gentleman and a scholar. We've lost another great.

💐RIP

There is much evidence that many animals care for animals of another species, not just their own. This to me disproves Daniel Dennet's theory that Humans are unique in comprehension of the reasons they do things. Animals can be moved by reasons just as Humans can. How convenient that Humans do not have to admit that destroying the habitats of other animals is genocide. Anyone remember the movie Free Willy where a boy has the compassion to release another living creature he befriended. Is mutual friendship also not evidence of freewill?

Love you pop! Noone can pluck thee away from the God of life of the Living hand. Thank you for thy contributions! Gratitude and Honor! Rest pop from thy labor! Nothing is wasted but increase! From the I AM. Thank you for thy sincere conversations! Will continue on! As the "AM" can do. Likewise the little child born "i" can do! Can't separate!

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Whether or not we have free will or just the illusion of free will doesn't change anything. We are still responsible for the choices we make. It might be a foregone conclusion that we will make one choice or another but from our perspective we have not yet made it. We have free will in that God allows us act out those choices good or evil.

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To your question towards the end It can be answered with one word... Singularity.

Do we know anything about the reason he passed away?

If I'm inferring correctly from Dennett's work and interview, he seems to be handwaving away naturalistic controls and limits, and focusing on the freedom that humans do have .

What is old people particularly senile old people’s level of moral agency in relation to their mid life counterparts?

📍54:55 2📍 43:48 3📍 54:55 the truth will set us free

Generally speaking what’s women level of moral agency in relation to men’s?

A titan among men. He will be sorely missed by many. And then there were 2........

Passing from the finite to the infinite, no book of the dead in the west.

I think he and Sapolsky actually largely agree more than they disagree. Dennett's definition of free will is different from Sapolsky (and he starts out by saying that right away, but frames it as Sapolsky's definition is wrong, rather than they're operating under different definitions), but I think they largely agree when you normalize their definitions. This becomes more a semantic and ontological argument--what IS free will. For Dennett, it seems those biological processes that drive our decision making ARE free will. For Sapolsky, that's not free will. But they both seem to agree with a non-dualistic materialistic approach that excludes a metaphysical or supernatural means for free will to arise. It's an emergent property of our biology and the environment we're in, not some soul that exists outside of our material conditions. I think ultimately whether we call it free will or not doesn't really matter. The question is, given that all of our behaviors are the result of the past moments leading up to this moment, what do we do when someone does something "wrong". Do we beat them with sticks because they are ontologically evil, or do we take malfunctioning machinery off the road until it's fixed?

@SkyGodKing

28 күн бұрын

Sapolsky doesn't even define free will in his book, I think that was deliberate, and most likely a bath faith thing. Since if he defined it, then his book would have been torn apart much more easily. People did provide feedback about his view on compatibilism, so that stuff much have been flatout lies in his book, since we know he's not an idiot so there can't be any other view.

I now understand why David Bentley Hart called this guy a fanatic.

RIP ❤

This was Dennett's best defence of free-will. The future has as much effect on the present as the past does.

@wp9860

28 күн бұрын

The obituaries of Daniel Dennett in both the New York Times and Washington Post state that Dennett claimed that free will is an illusion. Dennett didn't believe in it. Those obituaries are very much at odds with his positive endorsement of (his version) of free will in this video. While he has expounded extensively about free will, even literally at book length, how does he define it? I mean in the form of the kind of succinct statement that definitions comprise and that would pass the scrutiny of a competent lexicographer? I looked for Dennett's definition but never found it. What is, or what would you say is, Dennett's definition of free will?

@Cloven137

28 күн бұрын

Yes yes yes. In eternity, cause and effect are meaningless. The cause is NOW, the effect is NOW.

@undercoveragent9889

27 күн бұрын

@@wp9860 "What is, or what would you say is, Dennett's definition of free will?" Well, I would say that Dennett's definition of 'free-will' could be boiled down to, 'the ability whereby a machine is able to suspend the 'rules' imposed by its operating system and create new programs on the fly in order to create _new_ 'rules''. In particular, I would say that 'free-will' is 'the ability to 'interfere' with 'determinism' for the purpose of _altering_ deterministic outcome on the basis of some self-interest. Or, putting it as simply as possible, to possess free-will is to possess the ability to _cheat_ in the 'Game of Life'; having the capacity to cheat nature. Right?

Well if someone kills your dog here in the third dimension you're going to want Justice For That... Doesn't mean that they had any control over their ability to keep that potentiality from happening... fundamentally it is easier to disprove Free Will than it is to disprove a deterministic universe... like I said just searched the individual definitions of the two words free and will then put those two definitions together for the true definition of free will

Free will only truly exist in a person who can understand why we suffer trauma. When you can understand the codes of suffering. Free will doesn't exist to a person , child or even an animal that has endured physical, mental and or sexual abuse. When you constantly victimize yourself do to you usually do tona person that loves you or someone you trust and society treats you like your damaged. Only a person who can forgive that person and or situation that causes that person not to have faith in society, government, and family and friends. When people who have been hurt usually as a child and doesn't get help either because the child was abused and threatened before they go to school or they think this is normal is lack of free will and free will then doesn't exist to this child that grows to an adult and this is why free will doesn't exist for the so called damned. Those who have suffered the most and turns self hate , self shame self victimized minds and gets help and get the power and the love to seek help and adds philosophy or some.do faith based but this is usually a person faith based not what society in the main stream will ever seem to understand. So yes free will is out there for everyone but those who have suffered and gets no help free will doesn't exist for them. Because it's not understood that people are ashamed of what their loved ones or people or situations has taken their innocence away.

The interrupting disturbes the conversation in my opinion, sorry.

Parrots most definitely have a sense of humor, and can be real comedians.