Dan Dennett: Responding to Pastor Rick Warren

www.ted.com Philosopher Dan Dennett calls for religion -- all religion -- to be taught in schools, so we can understand its nature as a natural phenomenon. Then he takes on The Purpose-Driven Life, disputing its claim that, to be moral, one must deny evolution.
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  • @xxxccc4034
    @xxxccc40344 жыл бұрын

    The more I study religions the more I am convinced that man never worshipped anything but himself.- Richard Francis Burton

  • @shaunmcinnis1960

    @shaunmcinnis1960

    4 жыл бұрын

    You got that right my friend

  • @greglogan7706

    @greglogan7706

    4 жыл бұрын

    As a Christian theist I actually tend to agree that for the most part are theology's and are deities are a product of our own egos and sentiments. Breaking out of that and allowing the Creator to manifest and reveal Himself is no easy task.

  • @xxxccc4034

    @xxxccc4034

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@greglogan7706 Give a man a fish and he will eat for a day; teach a man to fish and he will eat for a lifetime; give a man religion and he will die praying for a fish.

  • @petervelasco5728

    @petervelasco5728

    4 жыл бұрын

    Did that include himself? He must've been praying to himself when he prayed & thought he was God/a god. Which way is the mental institution?

  • @barrysmith1202

    @barrysmith1202

    4 жыл бұрын

    religion as a social dominance game, the shrewd over the gullible; the religious elite worshipping themselves

  • @Sauromannen
    @Sauromannen5 жыл бұрын

    Teaching various religion history is what we do in all Swedish schools like the rest of the Scandinavian countries do. That’s one of the reasons why we are the most secular and non-religious countries in the world.

  • @19ghost73

    @19ghost73

    2 жыл бұрын

    We do the same in Germany, too, since at least 5 decades...and only recently (and with the addition of 18 million mostly non-believers in Eastern Germany) we have turned more and more secular. So, no, teaching only "religion history & facts", is not the sole reason why a nation is more secular than others.

  • @Sauromannen

    @Sauromannen

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@19ghost73 ”That’s one of the reasons...”, OK?

  • @jreyas6263

    @jreyas6263

    2 жыл бұрын

    Hardened hearts. Seminary hardens men's hearts. Real men of God see the supernatural power of God and experience him.

  • @voodoodisco

    @voodoodisco

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@jreyas6263 LOLOLOL ok then

  • @grantm6514

    @grantm6514

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@jreyas6263 Education may harden men's hearts, but religion makes them soft in the head.

  • @lotfibouhedjeur9897
    @lotfibouhedjeur98974 жыл бұрын

    No pictures of a young Dan Dennett on Google. This confirms my assumptions: This man must have been born old, wise, and bearded.

  • @keitha4768

    @keitha4768

    4 жыл бұрын

    For some reason, I've always thought that if there was a god, it would look like Daniel Dennett and instead of telling me about the truth of any particular dogma, he tells me that consciousness is actually really easy to explain.

  • @blacbraun

    @blacbraun

    4 жыл бұрын

    Just like Gandalf.

  • @brianoc22

    @brianoc22

    4 жыл бұрын

    Born old and pompous more like

  • @kmasse81

    @kmasse81

    4 жыл бұрын

    Like Yahweh

  • @MrRecrute

    @MrRecrute

    4 жыл бұрын

    @Brian O Callaghan, doesn’t come across as pompous. Perhaps I’ve missed something or perhaps you’ve imposed your bias to his talk.

  • @LogicAndReason2025
    @LogicAndReason20254 жыл бұрын

    Truth does not fear inquiry, only falsehood does.

  • @cosmikskeptik9877

    @cosmikskeptik9877

    4 жыл бұрын

    ....like the fat, putrid pig in the WH? Where's his taxes?

  • @thinkislamcheckmychannel

    @thinkislamcheckmychannel

    3 жыл бұрын

    True. Therefore try to use critical thinking to critique Dan's ideas. Lots of fallacies but unfortunately atheists are developing Cult like behaviours too. One example 2:00 Begging the question fallacy Using an analogy to make a point is not proof

  • @leehogg6248

    @leehogg6248

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@thinkislamcheckmychannel that is not an atheistic view but a scientific one. And if proven wrong would and should be corrected. As a Muslim are you prepared to correct the quoran on all of its falsehoods, mistakes, misinformation and hate speech ?

  • @PatrickLHolley

    @PatrickLHolley

    2 жыл бұрын

    Yes, agree.

  • @BassByTheBay

    @BassByTheBay

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@thinkislamcheckmychannel There's no "Begging The Question" fallacy. That fallacy is another term for circular reasoning -- where exactly is his circular reasoning? More importantly, he's not trying to _prove_ anything with his analogy. He's simply making an argument for a curriculum change, i.e., he's arguing for adding the teaching of factual religious history to the core three "Rs" curriculum. Maybe you can clarify your point.

  • @SirTenenbaum
    @SirTenenbaum9 жыл бұрын

    "Surrendered people obey God's word, even if it doesn't make sense." -Pastor Rick Warren That, ladies and gentlemen, is why people fly planes into buildings.

  • @oremfrien

    @oremfrien

    9 жыл бұрын

    Yes and No. The difference is that the implication of the Rick Warren quote is that the person is moving to reject the God's word but chooses not to because it is God's word. The people who flew the planes into buildings did so because they believed without question, i.e. they did not have this internal dialogue.

  • @twodashfacedman2412

    @twodashfacedman2412

    9 жыл бұрын

    oremfrien Begging the question?

  • @oremfrien

    @oremfrien

    9 жыл бұрын

    TwoDashFaced Man I do not see how this falls into the "begging the question" fallacy. There is no point where the conclusion is assumed in this apparent difference in thought patterns. Please advise.

  • @dmck8615

    @dmck8615

    9 жыл бұрын

    I've researched Holy Scripture since 1982 and never observed direction to fly airplanes into buildings. I did observe the admonition to not murder or steal, or lie or covet your neighbors servant or possessions. Also advised to love your neighbor and feed, house the poor...

  • @twodashfacedman2412

    @twodashfacedman2412

    9 жыл бұрын

    D McK You failed to understand what the comment actually means.

  • @AtamMardes
    @AtamMardes3 жыл бұрын

    "Religion was invented when the first con man met the first fool." Mark Twain

  • @lawrence1318

    @lawrence1318

    2 жыл бұрын

    Christianity isn't religion. It's a personal relationship with Christ. A personal relationship isn't a religion just because the relationship is with God. It's just a relationship where one party is physical and one a spirit. That doesn't make it religious.

  • @AtamMardes

    @AtamMardes

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@lawrence1318 *Simple facts and a simple general question for you.* *Fact 1:* Christianity teaches you to thank God for giving life to you and also for giving life to animals for you to take their lives and eat them. *Fact 2:* Christianity teaches you to thank God for choosing you out of many other praying patients to recover from illness as many other praying patients were ignored by God and died. *Question:* Can't you see how the charlatan theologians have fooled your gullible-self to believe in an imaginary God by exploiting your hypocrisy, narcissism, arrogance and ignorance? No offence, just asking.

  • @lawrence1318

    @lawrence1318

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@AtamMardes Rather, when are you going to think past your nose and realise that if there is no God and no afterlife, then it doesn't matter what anyone believes, for according to you everyone disappears into nothing forever. So you are contradicting yourself by even talking about these things. Basically you're acting as though when you no longer exist you'll be able to tell others who also no longer exist that you were right and they were wrong. But the fact that deep down inside you know these things are important eternally, should tell you that there is a God and an afterlife.

  • @ploppyjr2373

    @ploppyjr2373

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@lawrence1318 atheists don’t talk about religion because they secretly know that god exists or something. They talk about it because religion causes hurt in allot of situations. Also having a relationship with god doesn’t matter. If you believe in the existence of a god that created the universe you are religious.

  • @lawrence1318

    @lawrence1318

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@ploppyjr2373 You're contradicting yourself. If there is no God and we are all just atoms which are going to dissociate in a few years so that it will be as though we never existed, it shouldn't matter whether anyone is hurt. Stalin and the philanthropist both end up not existing. So you are confused. You are appealing to moral concepts in what is according to you an amoral universe of matter. That you can't see this, shows us you are no philosopher and can't think past your nose. The idea that we are all typing on keyboards, playing tennis, listening to Elvis records, building motor cars and meeting up at restaurants, all suspended out in space and all by chance, is ludicrous. You need to get out of the house a bit more.

  • @chrismccann9164
    @chrismccann91644 жыл бұрын

    Great idea, just heard a fitting quote by Matt Dillahunty " give a child one religion and you will indoctrinate them. Give a child all religions and you will inoculate them " this will always stick with me, I think we need to learn more about all religions and culture. Knowledge is power and ignorance is no excuse

  • @paragonofvirtue270

    @paragonofvirtue270

    4 жыл бұрын

    Chris McCann : well said .

  • @Charlie-wl2qt

    @Charlie-wl2qt

    2 жыл бұрын

    Excellent quote, thanks for sharing.

  • @HelloTuuuurdz

    @HelloTuuuurdz

    2 жыл бұрын

    🙌🏾🙌🏾🙌🏾

  • @patriceriksson7924

    @patriceriksson7924

    2 жыл бұрын

    That is so true

  • @kathryngeeslin9509

    @kathryngeeslin9509

    2 жыл бұрын

    Thank you. I've been saying that for years in a longer way. This wording is much more effective.

  • @AlfFieldArt
    @AlfFieldArt2 жыл бұрын

    I found this very intelligent and civilised. Personally, it matched my own thoughts. I also like the gentlemanly way Dan expressed his differences from others. No nastiness, no brutal language, no dogmatism. Thank you Dan Dennett.

  • @ogpcpa

    @ogpcpa

    Жыл бұрын

    When you're in the right, there's no need for nastiness. People get nasty when they can't use facts to back up their feelings.

  • @valivali8104

    @valivali8104

    Жыл бұрын

    @@ogpcpa sometimes pain and being hurt can cause nasty behavior; for example if someone calls you nasty names even when you are right, you will likely become nasty. I tend to lose my patience when other one keep using empty claims and false information so much that it becomes lying.

  • @irisgonzalez-caulder9352

    @irisgonzalez-caulder9352

    Жыл бұрын

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  • @irisgonzalez-caulder9352

    @irisgonzalez-caulder9352

    Жыл бұрын

    Orit "When your in the right there's no need for nastiness" Nastiness ISN'T, ok, at times nor, RIGHT, at times. Kindness, is right, everytime. But that doesn't define the "individual" is right. I'm 59 yrs old and since 2015

  • @tehspamgozehere

    @tehspamgozehere

    3 күн бұрын

    @@valivali8104 Indeed. There's a guy in another thread here trying the old lie of 'atheism means people are just animals and can be slaughtered, so atheism killed everyone'. It's so blatantly false, but people like that keep right on saying it. Beyond infuriating, and after seeing it bleated so often by people who ought to know better, I'm sorely tempted to be as nasty as the spiteful, hateful claimant is being. Polite refutation and education only works if someone is listening.

  • @WoollyMittens
    @WoollyMittens10 жыл бұрын

    When TED still had balls.

  • @Ianjcarroll

    @Ianjcarroll

    6 жыл бұрын

    well said... TED is nothing more than a cult

  • @mrtechnophile3483

    @mrtechnophile3483

    6 жыл бұрын

    Ian Carroll explain your position.

  • @thiagowutzkeod2453

    @thiagowutzkeod2453

    5 жыл бұрын

    Ian Carroll How so? I don't really see that

  • @Raz.C

    @Raz.C

    5 жыл бұрын

    Do you mean that ole' Teddy got a vasectomy? Or did his nuts get snipped off?

  • @rasaecnai

    @rasaecnai

    5 жыл бұрын

    citation needed

  • @awesomealv
    @awesomealv5 жыл бұрын

    Wow, I had no idea how secular Santa was.

  • @perztsdr

    @perztsdr

    4 жыл бұрын

    ..you get the Santa you believe in..or do not believe in.....or need....or become youurself...(Oh ho ho ho home!) from Santa Anthony FYI: check my facebook page out: Santa Anthony" ...we can all participate with EVEN......the iconic understanding and Presence of Santa and MRS Santa (Claus)

  • @dorianphilotheates3769

    @dorianphilotheates3769

    4 жыл бұрын

    Anthony Valdez - lol. The whole “Santa” thing is just a seasonal gig; in real life he’s a philosopher

  • @dunneincrewgear

    @dunneincrewgear

    4 жыл бұрын

    Anthony Valdez Reminds me of the dyslexic devil worshipper who sold his soul to Santa...

  • @rhabdob3895

    @rhabdob3895

    4 жыл бұрын

    You didn’t? He’s like the face of secular.

  • @kerwynwilson

    @kerwynwilson

    3 жыл бұрын

    🤣

  • @arseniyonline1234555
    @arseniyonline12345552 жыл бұрын

    "Democracy depends on informed consent" - now we know why things are so broken

  • @tehspamgozehere

    @tehspamgozehere

    3 күн бұрын

    The mushroom method of government is a classic. Keep people in the dark and feed them sh.. er.. lies. The ignorant are far easier to rule.

  • @chrisray9653
    @chrisray96534 жыл бұрын

    If religionists were actually confident that their belief system is true, they wouldn't demand special education, because their belief system would be appealing to a critical thinking adult who has never heard of it before. Every religion actually has those converts.

  • @ipodtouch495

    @ipodtouch495

    3 жыл бұрын

    They also wouldn't need to kill people for trying to leave the religions like our good friends in Saudi Arabia seem to love doing.

  • @thinkislamcheckmychannel

    @thinkislamcheckmychannel

    3 жыл бұрын

    What do you mean by special education?

  • @Pheer777

    @Pheer777

    2 жыл бұрын

    @Alex Atreides Not really. Those crazy megachurches are a small minority

  • @pdworld3421

    @pdworld3421

    2 жыл бұрын

    That's an interesting statement because the scopes trial came about because of darwinism.

  • @leehogg6248

    @leehogg6248

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@thinkislamcheckmychannel I think they mean , Catholic schools, Islamic schools etc. The purpose of this is to legitimise that particular belief system without genuine supporting evidence.

  • @helenhollis3984
    @helenhollis39843 жыл бұрын

    As a human that escaped a cult, I find this something I can not stop thinking about.

  • @ericgrabowski3896

    @ericgrabowski3896

    3 жыл бұрын

    What Cult did you escape from?

  • @helenhollis3984

    @helenhollis3984

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@ericgrabowski3896 The Jehovah's Witnesses

  • @ericgrabowski3896

    @ericgrabowski3896

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@helenhollis3984 Well im happy youre free now!!

  • @gregorywilliams5105

    @gregorywilliams5105

    3 жыл бұрын

    Good for you. I hope you're doing ok.

  • @alexthesecond462

    @alexthesecond462

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@helenhollis3984 isn't it crazy how an organization could high jack your life, make your life about their interests and have you do it willingly

  • @brianfreeman5880
    @brianfreeman58806 жыл бұрын

    I love you Daniel Dennett. You see potential in humanity, which is one reason why you give these talks. Thank you man.

  • @brianfreeman5880

    @brianfreeman5880

    6 жыл бұрын

    LOL. I see no nonsense coming from DD. And he deserves those symbols he gets paid.

  • @wrenlittle8826
    @wrenlittle88263 жыл бұрын

    I received that kind of 'religious education' in a public school in Denmark over forty years ago. It liberated me. Brilliant BTW Mr. Denett

  • @michael_leclezio

    @michael_leclezio

    Жыл бұрын

    But that's it, whatever religion you might be born in does not want to "liberate" you.

  • @DLFfitness1
    @DLFfitness1 Жыл бұрын

    “One of the saddest lessons of history is this: If we’ve been bamboozled long enough, we tend to reject any evidence of the bamboozle. We’re no longer interested in finding out the truth. The bamboozle has captured us. It’s simply too painful to acknowledge, even to ourselves, that we’ve been taken. Once you give a charlatan power over you, you almost never get it back.” ― Carl Sagan

  • @Roedygr
    @Roedygr6 жыл бұрын

    Children are going to grow up in a world where most people have a different religion. It makes sense they will need to understand how they tick.

  • @PaulBrown-uj5le

    @PaulBrown-uj5le

    4 жыл бұрын

    Hopefully all children will grow up knowing all religion's are nonsense and a con mans wet dream, the money religion's make is obscene.

  • @baddoggie101

    @baddoggie101

    4 жыл бұрын

    Religious belief has nothing to do with sense (logic).

  • @Gpacharlie

    @Gpacharlie

    4 жыл бұрын

    Roedy Green Yep 👍🏼

  • @SStupendous

    @SStupendous

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@PaulBrown-uj5le Hopefully all children will grow up not being indoctrinated into anything, and having the freedom of choice.

  • @SStupendous

    @SStupendous

    2 жыл бұрын

    @FlyboyCGC Because freedom isn't worth praying for?

  • @petmomful2260
    @petmomful22609 жыл бұрын

    I am an agnostic, dyslexic, insomniac. I lay awake all night wondering if there is a dog.

  • @Pikeandslippers

    @Pikeandslippers

    4 жыл бұрын

    This comment has not received the recognition it deserves. Very funny.

  • @suzanneyoung6273

    @suzanneyoung6273

    4 жыл бұрын

    petmom ful You are what you say you are. If you’re a Christian, Jesus Christ lives in you. Is He sick, NO. So why are you? Command Satan to go, and take his lies with him.

  • @Pikeandslippers

    @Pikeandslippers

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@suzanneyoung6273 do you know what a joke is?

  • @PariahQuail

    @PariahQuail

    4 жыл бұрын

    Pikeandslippers I am an agnostic insomniac dyslexic dog trainer. I lay awake at night wondering wether or not dog will come when I call.

  • @dr.redpill353

    @dr.redpill353

    4 жыл бұрын

    originality is NOT the purview of atheism.

  • @IHScoutII
    @IHScoutII4 жыл бұрын

    Most humans are too ignorant to even consider this man's proposals.

  • @shaunmcinnis1960

    @shaunmcinnis1960

    4 жыл бұрын

    Cant you be more specific?

  • @iwanwillemse7703

    @iwanwillemse7703

    4 жыл бұрын

    nooo most americans are

  • @iwanwillemse7703

    @iwanwillemse7703

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@shaunmcinnis1960 he means americans or maybe just southerners specifically those from alabamy

  • @soslothful

    @soslothful

    4 жыл бұрын

    I suspect you exempt yourself.

  • @soslothful

    @soslothful

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@iwanwillemse7703 Childish insults might work better with consideration of basic proper sentence construction.

  • @matgggg55
    @matgggg554 жыл бұрын

    Why do religious people need all the answers now. Throughout history they have always had the “right answers” but simply we all know that is not true

  • @PBAmygdala2021

    @PBAmygdala2021

    3 жыл бұрын

    @Matthew: It's because of the right amygdala in the limbic region of their brain.

  • @TerryMcGearyScotland
    @TerryMcGearyScotland5 жыл бұрын

    Never heard of DD until today. Great philosopher. I hope he is still alive and kicking and trying to make sense out of the world.

  • @jonwolynies7465

    @jonwolynies7465

    2 жыл бұрын

    Your message is three years old but I have to reply he is still alive at 79. He has released a number of books over the years.

  • @TerryMcGearyScotland

    @TerryMcGearyScotland

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@jonwolynies7465 Thank you. I am glad to hear that.

  • @dmmusicmusic

    @dmmusicmusic

    Жыл бұрын

    @@jonwolynies7465 and in the main his books are the same garbage endlessly repeated/ regurgitated over and over and over again,( there is no God); he'll die and be buried and be forgotten and the Bible will remain at the top of the all time best seller list and Jesus's name be known and spoken about world-wide until the absolute end of time.

  • @tracewallace23

    @tracewallace23

    Жыл бұрын

    @@jonwolynies7465 Your comment is 11 months old now, just letting you know somebody else appreciated your response to a 3 (now 4) year old comment🙂👍

  • @gaelmiranda4758

    @gaelmiranda4758

    10 күн бұрын

    He’s passed away now :(

  • @ihatereligion9744
    @ihatereligion97446 жыл бұрын

    I couldn't agree more! My college level theology classes, cemented my atheism!

  • @danielessex2162

    @danielessex2162

    4 жыл бұрын

    This is why conservative republicans hate liberal colleges.....because it teaches the ability to question things and to properly find facts.

  • @mmccrownus2406

    @mmccrownus2406

    2 жыл бұрын

    That’s what the pin head communist manipulators intended it to do. Look deeper

  • @totalcap2989

    @totalcap2989

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@danielessex2162 yes go get that art degree lolol

  • @danielessex2162

    @danielessex2162

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@totalcap2989 Oh your one of them people who think the only classes at "liberal colleges" is an arts degree? Ignoring the facts that any college that right wingers claim is a "liberal" college is any college that teaches anything they don't like. So due to the fact you don't seem to know what classes and courses are taught at "liberal colleges" shows your bias.

  • @kahlesjf

    @kahlesjf

    Жыл бұрын

    ​@@totalcap2989 Yes, do. Just being on campus in an academic environment and you will learn how to think for yourself and how to learn new things on your own. That smug attitude that college is a waste of time and money is the result of indoctrination by those who want to be able to control you through propaganda for the rest of your life...politicians and big business. Remain one of their puppets if you want to, lolol.

  • @PaulH1748
    @PaulH17484 жыл бұрын

    The Earth was irrigated from the ground-up? A 600 year old man spent a hundred and twenty years building a boat? And people wonder why religion is dying.

  • @Mrcrisis2012

    @Mrcrisis2012

    4 жыл бұрын

    thats the truth of Gods word....Its called the Christian faith...not religion

  • @smileybubbles9894

    @smileybubbles9894

    4 жыл бұрын

    If it was easy to believe it would not require faith. If it was easy to understand it would not require the effort that God wants you to put into studying his word.

  • @Mrcrisis2012

    @Mrcrisis2012

    4 жыл бұрын

    @Justin winter because of the sin of mankind

  • @Mrcrisis2012

    @Mrcrisis2012

    4 жыл бұрын

    All religion should die it's fruitless,, .Religion is man reaching up to God through his own means....Christianity is God reaching down to man through Jesus christ....Christianity is not a religion but a faith....and religion is not a faith....but merely an effort of man's ideas to reach God..which is completely fruitless...✝️✝️know Jesus now

  • @kylewalter3111

    @kylewalter3111

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@Mrcrisis2012 I'm sorry, but christianity is a religion

  • @mayanma
    @mayanma4 жыл бұрын

    What a gentlemanly and dignified presentation of arguments! I salute you, Sir.

  • @princessolmeca2933
    @princessolmeca29336 жыл бұрын

    Christianity was the religion I grew up believing. Now as an atheist, I have more of an interest of studying it and educating myself about it. Religion is easier to approach when analyzing it from a detached, educational, unbiased perspective.

  • @matalata
    @matalata5 жыл бұрын

    Looks like Socrates finally started writing things down.

  • @TheEternalOuroboros

    @TheEternalOuroboros

    4 жыл бұрын

    lol

  • @phumeoli

    @phumeoli

    3 жыл бұрын

    haha!

  • @canadianhappyinitalytruest6556

    @canadianhappyinitalytruest6556

    3 жыл бұрын

    Love it!

  • @panatsip4949

    @panatsip4949

    3 жыл бұрын

    No need for Plato now

  • @aurorafrost288

    @aurorafrost288

    2 жыл бұрын

    Dust...Wind...Dude.

  • @maesc2001
    @maesc20012 жыл бұрын

    What you seem to require about teaching religion in school is exactly what we had in Belgium in the mid-seventies. As a note: the most influential teacher I ever had on this, teaching atheistic views as well, was a catholic priest, no other. Still have fond memories of his classes in high school.

  • @andrewwright1922
    @andrewwright19222 жыл бұрын

    Debaters take note! This is a masterclass in steelmanning another's argument. Brilliantly done!

  • @TonyAKA30
    @TonyAKA305 жыл бұрын

    I'm a bit disappoinTED that such a great video uploaded 12 years ago only has 1.2 M views...

  • @jpapan1

    @jpapan1

    4 жыл бұрын

    Id say KZread's algorithm. I've watched enough atheist experience and stuff by the other horsemen. This should have shown up in my recommendations much sooner

  • @gregorioeduardo

    @gregorioeduardo

    4 жыл бұрын

    1 year after your comment @400,000 more views

  • @blueheron5232

    @blueheron5232

    4 жыл бұрын

    Most people aren't that concerned with Truth as much as with the false sense of security they get from the illusion of safety in numbers and the soul-crushing conformity that orthodoxy demands. The truth, however, is simply not a matter of consensus and does not require even anyone's recognition let alone anyone's alignment with it to simply be itself. Don't sweat it.

  • @gregorioeduardo

    @gregorioeduardo

    4 жыл бұрын

    Blue Heron Long winded answer to explain the algorithm process on youtube.

  • @MrLibranda

    @MrLibranda

    4 жыл бұрын

    there probably only a select type of person who would look at this video.

  • @rosesandsongs21
    @rosesandsongs215 жыл бұрын

    Reason is doing what's right no matter what you are told. Religion is doing what you are told no matter what's right.

  • @yougetagoldstar

    @yougetagoldstar

    5 жыл бұрын

    Reason is actually reading the Bible and discovering why it's right, and then doing what's right no matter what you are told.

  • @rosesandsongs21

    @rosesandsongs21

    5 жыл бұрын

    "Surrendered people obey God's word, even if it doesn't make sense." -Pastor Rick Warren

  • @mrswimmyboy

    @mrswimmyboy

    5 жыл бұрын

    Faith is believing things without evidence which don't make sense.

  • @zoki.to974

    @zoki.to974

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@mrswimmyboy cultural thing. for you that has no sense, in other culture it has. you do realize that you believe in things without seeing evidence and just believe in them because someone said so? you never conducted any own research to confirm those claims, but you do believe in their words... take evolution for example, do you have evidence that man became from the ape? but you still believe in that. :)

  • @gabriellescouarnec8327

    @gabriellescouarnec8327

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@zoki.to974 First: Evolution doesn't teach that "man became from the ape". Second: you're right saying that for many things I believe, I'm not able to redo the experiments or the researches. But when it comes to religion, NO ONE has ever been able to confirm any claim.

  • @douglasblowe805
    @douglasblowe8052 жыл бұрын

    I grew up Christian as did my wife. At age 30, I left the church officially and became Wiccan/Pagan and she followed me. We let out 3 sons go to church with my sisters and with my wife's sister and since I had studied the Bible as a historical source and as a religious text, not to mention had studied about a great many other faiths and read the sacred books involved with those faiths. We gave our sons their own choice. My oldest became Pagan as well though of a different sect than my wife and I. Our two youngest are both severely mentally handicapped. The middle son cannot seem to grasp anything about religion so he is not interested in any religion but does ask me a lot of questions about beliefs and faith of many religions that he sees online. Our youngest is severely autistic, cannot speak and has the mind of a 2 yr old so he is happy in his own world and we let him be happy. As a history teacher in NC, I was discovered and fired for being a 'devil-worshipper' Legal in NC to do so. I fought it in court the 2nd time and the principal actually bragged to the judge that she was firing me for my beliefs, which btw no students had ever found out. I discussed religion in lessons where it affected the history we were studying. I won my case but it was a koral victory only- I was still fired and then black-balled from teaching because I fought the system in court and won. So my 2 Masters degrees are wasted (Education and Psychology) as my teaching awards. I agree we should teach about all religions or at least the most influential ones. When I was forced to teach about creation - because I also taught science classes some especially when other teachers did not wanna teach evolution and genetics, I would find out what cultural backgrounds of my students were and I would teach the creation myths from each of those religions. The students enjoyed it as did many parents.

  • @philosophyfrog2653
    @philosophyfrog26533 жыл бұрын

    Feels good to listen to a sane person for a change.

  • @tehspamgozehere

    @tehspamgozehere

    3 күн бұрын

    This is the first presentation of Dan Dennett's that I have listened to at the suggestion of Seth from The Atheist Experience. Whether you agree with what he says or not, it's a fine display of rational thinking and eloquence.

  • @rajeevyukthivadi-houston2581
    @rajeevyukthivadi-houston25816 жыл бұрын

    I totally agreed with Dennett’s opinion to teaching about all major religions in school so in that way the students have a better knowledge about each and every religion in this world and their cultures and this will help kids to respect other kids who has another faith.

  • @Nimuel
    @Nimuel7 жыл бұрын

    It amazes me how well this applies not only to religion, but to politics as well. And here you were thinking politics are not about religious institutions ;-)

  • @lorenyoung791

    @lorenyoung791

    4 жыл бұрын

    Nimuel: Good point! Thinkers on religion from Hitch to Alan W. Watts correctly pointed out the fundamentally theocratic nature of the Stalin & Mao regimes. The personal adoration of Hitler, Mussolini & Trump are covert examples of the same. More explicit were the cults of Hirohito, & of the Russian tsars.

  • @tabularasa0606

    @tabularasa0606

    4 жыл бұрын

    Why do you think North Korea and China do not allow other religions? The state does not want any competition from them. The state is the only religion allowed and the leader is the prophet or god himself.

  • @1lightheaded

    @1lightheaded

    Жыл бұрын

    Region is Politics. They both manipulate people in a social and behavioural manner.

  • @tehspamgozehere

    @tehspamgozehere

    3 күн бұрын

    Politics: A way to direct or otherwise control a group of people. Relgion: A way to direct or otherwise control a group of people. The similarities far outweigh the differences, or so it seems to me. The main difference seems to be that one pushes the idea of the people, state or country. The other pushes the idea of a deity. One has slightly more existance than the other. That's about it.

  • @cjalisyas
    @cjalisyas4 жыл бұрын

    Dont believe “Do not believe in anything simply because you have heard it. Do not believe in anything simply because it is spoken and rumored by many. Do not believe in anything simply because it is found written in your religious books. Do not believe in anything merely on the authority of your teachers and elders. Do not believe in traditions because they have been handed down for many generations. But after observation and analysis, when you find that anything agrees with reason and is conducive to the good and benefit of one and all, then accept it and live up to it.” Buddha quotes (Hindu Prince Gautama Siddharta, the founder of Buddhism, 563-483 B.C.)

  • @user-qc8vj3vp9v

    @user-qc8vj3vp9v

    4 жыл бұрын

    👍🤗BUDDHÀ

  • @johanfijnvandraat9339

    @johanfijnvandraat9339

    2 жыл бұрын

    While it’s a nice quote, I just checked it and it’s not exactly what the Buddha said. The actual quote is as follows: “Now, Kalamas, don’t go by reports, by legends, by traditions, by scripture, by logical conjecture, by inference, by analogies, by agreement through pondering views, by probability, or by the thought, ‘This contemplative is our teacher.’ When you know for yourselves that, ‘These qualities are skillful; these qualities are blameless; these qualities are praised by the wise; these qualities, when adopted & carried out, lead to welfare & to happiness’ - then you should enter & remain in them.”

  • @stoopidapples1596

    @stoopidapples1596

    2 жыл бұрын

    This sounds like someone to quote to defend Hindu faith: “oh, you say I’m irrational? Well look at this one line! Clearly this proves I thought rationally about my faith.

  • @SStupendous

    @SStupendous

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@johanfijnvandraat9339 Someone almost entirely altering a quote! Unlikely! Lol. Great quote though

  • @SStupendous

    @SStupendous

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@stoopidapples1596 Someone got out of the wrong side of bed

  • @jonhallquist3107
    @jonhallquist31074 жыл бұрын

    Max Planck (lived from 1858 - to October 1947) the originator of modern quantum theories and one of the most important German physicists ever. During 19th and early 20th centuries, won the Nobel Prize in Physics in 1918. He said: "As a man who has devoted his whole life to the most clear headed science, to the study of matter, I can tell you as a result of my research about the atoms this much: There is no matter as such! All matter originates and exists only by virtue of a force which brings the particles of an atom to vibration and holds this most minute solar system of the atom together. . .We must assume behind this force the existence of a conscious and intelligent Mind. This Mind is the matrix of all matter.”

  • @Kaledrums
    @Kaledrums5 жыл бұрын

    I think it was hitchens who said, and I quote him very very loosely, "If god is the only reason you don't rape the women of your congregation that is truly evil." I'm trying to find the source now so please forgive me.

  • @88mphDrBrown

    @88mphDrBrown

    3 жыл бұрын

    "Just claim you came up with the quote"- Albert Einstein

  • @seldomgood

    @seldomgood

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@88mphDrBrown its true he said that in a debate

  • @kevinmahoney5923

    @kevinmahoney5923

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@88mphDrBrown I knew I could depend on you once again Al, for the right quote at the right time.

  • @mistou26
    @mistou265 жыл бұрын

    It is always so stimulating to listen to such a wyse and learned man. What a pleasure to learn from any of his speeches.

  • @StraightEdgeHeathen

    @StraightEdgeHeathen

    5 жыл бұрын

    Keep it up, maybe you'll improve your spelling skills.

  • @MsPinecone123
    @MsPinecone1234 жыл бұрын

    Reading The Four Horsemen. Hawkins, Dennett, Harris and Hitchens. So glad I saw it live. So glad I have a daughter who teaches evolution at Yale, proud mom.

  • @Farsadelcatolicismo

    @Farsadelcatolicismo

    4 жыл бұрын

    teaching lies with people's tax dollars isn't something to be proud of brother.

  • @calonstanni

    @calonstanni

    3 жыл бұрын

    Thanks for having a smart kid who's making a difference for the better!

  • @FakingANerve

    @FakingANerve

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@Farsadelcatolicismo you must not know how private college education is funded, what evolution is, or even what "Ms." means.You're not off to a great start, "brother." 😘

  • @johnanderson3700
    @johnanderson37003 жыл бұрын

    Not only do I agree (and I am a priest in Christian faith) I would say we in religious community need to be in conversation with each other & expose ourselves to each other engaging each other’s tradition and broaden our spiritual landscape

  • @TheHydred

    @TheHydred

    3 жыл бұрын

    Beautifully said!

  • @johnanderson3700

    @johnanderson3700

    3 жыл бұрын

    @Glenn Heston Thanks for your response. I appreciate your point. I still hope we can play a positive role in the lives of people and be part of the continuing evolution of huamn thought.

  • @chrissonofpear1384

    @chrissonofpear1384

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@johnanderson3700 So, y'ever learn yet why Satan was owed anything, post exile, or to keep any powers? And when any angel could ever impair other angels, like Eve did, unwittingly, ah, to humans?

  • @MLJohnsonian

    @MLJohnsonian

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@chrissonofpear1384 Hey, y'ever figure out exactly how matter uses gravity to attract other matter? What's the mechanism there?

  • @ShanOakley
    @ShanOakley9 жыл бұрын

    I was indoctrinated into the Irish version of Catholicism right after birth. It's a guilt-driven version -- the Irish method. Now at age 45, I have been agnostic for near 20 years. Yet, I still at times feel guilty for abandoning nonsense for reason. But if I were to return to any sort of religion, I would feel like a hypocrite, for subscribing to evident nonsense. How grand it would be, to have never been brainwashed (in very much a sense) from the get-go.

  • @metaldude82

    @metaldude82

    9 жыл бұрын

    Try deism, pantheism, or any of the other varieties of non-atheism which are not based on any revealed scripture.

  • @KingElrosTarMinyatur

    @KingElrosTarMinyatur

    9 жыл бұрын

    Shan Oakley reddit.com/r/catholicism

  • @ShanOakley

    @ShanOakley

    9 жыл бұрын

    KingElrosTarMinyatur Thanks!

  • @MrDorbel

    @MrDorbel

    8 жыл бұрын

    +Adrienne Gurge Why define any version of god into existence? Why would a god that you have invented for yourself be superior to any other? You don't have to be an atheist, but the alternative is to select a god that will give you what? Nothing.

  • @MrDorbel

    @MrDorbel

    8 жыл бұрын

    ***** Yes, but why have any concept of God at all? What purpose does it serve to have a concept of something for which there is no evidence whatsoever?

  • @steeltrap3800
    @steeltrap38008 жыл бұрын

    I like one of H L Mencken's takes on 'informed society' and democracy: “As democracy is perfected, the office of president represents, more and more closely, the inner soul of the people. On some great and glorious day the plain folks of the land will reach their heart's desire at last and the White House will be adorned by a downright moron.” And here are a few more gems: The truth is that Christian theology, like every other theology, is not only opposed to the scientific spirit; it is also opposed to all other attempts at rational thinking. Not by accident does Genesis 3 make the father of knowledge a serpent - slimy, sneaking and abominable. Since the earliest days the church, as an organization, has thrown itself violently against every effort to liberate the body and mind of man. It has been, at all times and everywhere, the habitual and incorrigible defender of bad governments, bad laws, bad social theories, bad institutions. It was, for centuries, an apologist for slavery, as it was the apologist for the divine right of kings. - H L Mencken, Treatise on the Gods Men become civilized, not in proportion to their willingness to believe, but in proportion to their readiness to doubt. - H L Mencken, from George Seldes, editor, The Great Quotations, quoted from James A Haught, editor, 2000 Years of Disbelief

  • @backwoods6050

    @backwoods6050

    5 жыл бұрын

    Thanks Steeltrap. As a footnote to your HL Menchen quote - judging by the moron we now find in the White House, it looks like democracy has been perfected.

  • @lindataylor6831

    @lindataylor6831

    4 жыл бұрын

    The white house remark has now actually happened !

  • @tofu_golem
    @tofu_golem4 жыл бұрын

    As the old saying goes, teaching a child one religion is indoctrination, teaching a child all religions is inoculation.

  • @2l84t
    @2l84t4 жыл бұрын

    How many find this amusing ? The Ark Encounter is suing it's 5 insurers for refusing to cover damages a landslide, caused by heavy rains did to its access road.

  • @Amberscion

    @Amberscion

    4 жыл бұрын

    Amusing if true. Source?

  • @undrcoverlouky

    @undrcoverlouky

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@Amberscion Christian Post, Washington Post, Louisville Courier-Journal, Lexington Herrold, Cincinnati Enquirer, CBS, Christian News Network, USA Today, News.co.uk, BBC...

  • @gabrieljaxon7164

    @gabrieljaxon7164

    4 жыл бұрын

    The irony.

  • @Amberscion

    @Amberscion

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@undrcoverlouky It's really easy to rattle off a pile of news sources. That's not a source, however, any more than listing the continents is a source for the claim that continental drift occurs... A link to an article would be a source.

  • @undrcoverlouky

    @undrcoverlouky

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@Amberscion A.) I believe you are confused. A source is where you can obtain something. A source is not the product you're looking for specifically. B.) You're rude. Is Siri broken? You can verify it as I did.

  • @ericjohnson1811
    @ericjohnson18115 жыл бұрын

    What an elegant talk. Kudos!

  • @MarcErlich44
    @MarcErlich4410 жыл бұрын

    When Dennett starts reading quotes from Rick Warren's book, you can literally feel the silence and disgust in the room.

  • @murphy903

    @murphy903

    5 жыл бұрын

    I doubt it. Knowing Rich Warren, he probably found the whole discussion interesting and enlightening. Rick Warren is smarter than to take the bait. Atheists love to argue and debate.

  • @gadflyofrunescape6917

    @gadflyofrunescape6917

    5 жыл бұрын

    Michael Murphy yea, because argument and debate are very good ways of coming to, at the very least, an understanding of the opposition of your beliefs; and, at the most, can totally change your opponents mind. The real benefit is public argument and debate, because, since your opponents are versed enough in the subject to consider themselves worthy to seriously discus it, it’s safe to assume that they are pretty firmly set in their beliefs; but, the audience is a totally different matter. A public argument or debate can, depending on the platform and persuasiveness of the debaters, change plenty of undecided minds, changes some people’s entire perspective, and bring new life to the arguments previously used for your position. They are both very important parts of rational, civilized, discourse.

  • @louistournas120

    @louistournas120

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@murphy903 : I'm going to have to agree with Jared Bridge. Debates are important to bring forward the issues, they are a way to be made aware of issues, to be aware of the ideas. "Rick Warren is smarter than to take the bait" ==There is no bait. I don't know who Rick Warren is but he should be able to discuss his ideas like a human being.

  • @vaughnestrick6291

    @vaughnestrick6291

    4 жыл бұрын

    Michael Murphy n

  • @mickaymiller9622

    @mickaymiller9622

    4 жыл бұрын

    Michael Murphy Atheists love to argue and debate? No, but in the domination, at least by passive acceptance, of religion, an atheist may believe there’s need to show another view. Argument and debate seem civilized ways to be honest and true to oneself amid the hostility of organized religions.

  • @billjackson2863
    @billjackson28633 жыл бұрын

    I only just discovered D. Dennett in the last few months. Good stuff.

  • @BeachsideHank
    @BeachsideHank4 жыл бұрын

    *Sapient Wisdom:* I ask the religious; what would you do if you weren’t afraid?

  • @Gpacharlie

    @Gpacharlie

    4 жыл бұрын

    BeachsideHank I am not afraid. Thus I will do as Jesus asks. Next question?

  • @BeachsideHank

    @BeachsideHank

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@Gpacharlie "Next question?" *Sapient Wisdom:* Why accept as honorable a God who impregnates a married woman with himself as her child?

  • @Gpacharlie

    @Gpacharlie

    4 жыл бұрын

    BeachsideHank Because He is God. Because He is perfection. Next question?

  • @BeachsideHank

    @BeachsideHank

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@Gpacharlie "Next question?" *Sapient Wisdom:* So deformed children are God's perfect plan?

  • @Gpacharlie

    @Gpacharlie

    4 жыл бұрын

    BeachsideHank They are now that we disobeyed and he had to go to plan B. Besides what is your definition of deformed and do you see them as having less value?

  • @mattiassollerman
    @mattiassollerman8 жыл бұрын

    I'm grateful I live in a country where I get to learn about the world religions in school.

  • @mattiassollerman

    @mattiassollerman

    8 жыл бұрын

    ***** One can't teach religion without teaching doctrinal issues, to some extent. Children should know about the noble eightfold path of buddhists, the five pillars of islam, the seven sacraments of catholicism, etc. I believe simply exposing children to this information is part of a good start, IAW _better than nothing_. In addition to that the history of some religions should be taught in greater depth. A christian should know about christianity becoming the majority religion in Rome under Constantine, the crusades, Luther and the reformation, etc. So that the next generation of teachers may not be as biased.

  • @mattiassollerman

    @mattiassollerman

    8 жыл бұрын

    ***** I agree completely

  • @kaufmanat1

    @kaufmanat1

    8 жыл бұрын

    ***** I agree with you guys... I'm even religious, and I have no qualms with educating the public about other religions. Information is power. You can't KNOW too much. You can INFER too much when you don't have all the information. However, when presented as just raw information, there's nothing wrong with teaching Facts. Problem though is its very difficult for many people to really discern fact from opinion. Don't interpret religious texts. Teach what the text says (by virtue of quotation), and be very careful with summarizing and generalizing. One can factually quote the Bible, it is almost impossible to factually teach what "Christianity" believes because just look at all the different sects of Christianity. It's insane. Protestant, Catholic, Episcopalian, evangelical, Baptist, Methodist, Lutheran, unitarian, 7th day adventist, Presbyterian... There's all those different subsets, then you go into one church belonging to one of those subsets, and you will find division within that single church regarding various interpretations about what "Christianity" teaches. To answer "what do Christians believe" is difficult to say the least.

  • @kaufmanat1

    @kaufmanat1

    8 жыл бұрын

    ***** there are verses that speak of violence for sure. However reading through the new testament, I at know point felt like it was conveying a hate induced message, but that was my experience reading the text. That's why I advocate teaching what the text says and little more than that regarding religious doctrine. You can teach religious history, but it should be taught under that pretense (for instance, the crusades are part of religious history, they happened, that's a fact, and to ignore something like that is wrong). Teaching they happened "because of religion" is a different statement though. Not a fact. A theory. Not saying it's wrong, but it is absolutely not a "fact". Thise things trip people up a lot. Also your last statement shows a fundamental difficulty with teaching religion through non religious teachers. Knowledge is not the original sin. Bible never states or implies that understanding the universe is wrong. In fact just the opposite. However an inaccurate interpretation of what the "tree of knowledge" was, and the act of eating from it was in direct defiance of God's command which is the definition of "sin", could falsely lead someone to believe that Christians believe knowledge is sinful which is completely baseless and untrue, and that's why we NEED accurate teaching of various world religions, to remove inaccuracies like that from public thought. Historically it was Christians who undertook the rise of Scientific thought, it was the political leaders of their day (who were also religious leaders as the church was a dominant political leader of the time) that sought to crush it. Another common example is that people say "scientists say the earth is millions if not billions of years old, but the Bible says it's only 6000 years old..." The Bible never says that anywhere, that's another interpretation based on a chronology of the family trees listed, and a view not Universally held (not even close). It's extremely difficult to teach people what Christians believe because you can get ten Christians reading the same passage from the Bible and get ten different interpretations. That's why I advocate for just teaching people what the Bible says, and treading very softly when teaching non religious people what it means, and if you do teach what it means, be sure not to present it as a fact, because it's not, it's an interpretation, or opinion.

  • @kaufmanat1

    @kaufmanat1

    8 жыл бұрын

    ***** definition of a theory: an idea or set of ideas that is intended to explain facts or events. Arguing that religion caused the crusades (events) sounds a lot like an idea intending to explain an event. Chill out man. Also, people did not follow the crusades because "they read the Bible and saw that it was in there". Crusades started in the late 11th century. At that time it was purported that the average individual wasn't capable of understanding the Bible and required the help of religious leaders such as priests and the Pope. The Pete going on crusades did what the Pope told them to, not what they read in the Bible. The Catholic Church at the time functioning as much as a political institution as it was a religious one. I would say the crusades were instigated by politics more than religion and the people controlled by the religious leader, not their own conviction. Protestant reformation (Martin Luther and his 95 theses) didn't happened until hundreds of years after (and the definitely had its own fair share of problems, to be sure). Am I convinced that I'm 100 percent right? No, that's just my theory after trying to study the historical event and place it in context. You think it's an obvious explanation, but since when is history ever so obvious? Also, I'm not trying to fight here, you seem to be getting a little aggressive. Just a healthy exchange of ideas, that's all I want, otherwise this is just another silly KZread argument.

  • @AshGeo
    @AshGeo6 жыл бұрын

    At first I thought this guy is actually making a few good points about one of the best books I've ever read. But then at 22:00, he used two sentences from very different contexts to prove his point. This disappointed me "Surrendered people obey Cod's word even if it doesn't make sense". Pastor Rick says this in the chapter where he exhorts believers to surrender to God since it is the heart of worship. True, heartfelt worship will only come from a surrendered heart. "Don't ever argue with the devil. He's better at arguing than you are, having had thousands of years to practice" Now Pastor Rick makes this quote in an entirely different context. He used this to say that it's better to run from temptations than to reason with it.

  • @dimbulb23

    @dimbulb23

    2 жыл бұрын

    What you have missed is that you never surrender to God nor do you argue with the devil. What you do is you surrender to stories, in an old book. And you surrender to words of other human beings you interpret those stories in a way you like.. If you are honest with yourself, you know this is true. You have surrendered to Stories, mostly the stories of men dead for more than a thousand years. You cannot judge their honesty, their agenda nor their state of mental health. You are pretending that you know things about the world that you do not know. Others read other holy books and believe quite different things. Things you think are wrong. They too believe they have knowledge that they do not have.

  • @RealAmericanStar

    @RealAmericanStar

    Жыл бұрын

    @@dimbulb23 you missed the point of the comment 🤦‍♂️

  • @byronp2311
    @byronp23114 жыл бұрын

    At 12, I decided to be baptisted. Pretty much, just to make mom happy. It was my decision. At 13, I renounced it all. I tried it; it did not work. I never looked back. But. I was always interested in why people tend to believe in fuckshit insane things. Sure, the bedrock of a religion may be workable. The practice often is horribly not. But it is worth knowing what those bedrocks are. People tend to forget them, much to our detriment.

  • @TOLupe-ty6jb
    @TOLupe-ty6jb4 жыл бұрын

    My parents thought they owned me, and it sux because I let them control me for far too long! Telling me what I can and can't do, after the age of 18. I finally got out of my mom's house last year, but I feel sooooo far behind in this life of mine😭It hurts so bad!!!!

  • @mikekulati7526

    @mikekulati7526

    3 жыл бұрын

    Now you have the opportunity to live, learn and experience life yourself... Good luck! Remember to thank your parents when you have lived a little and grown up!!!

  • @1lightheaded

    @1lightheaded

    Жыл бұрын

    Get counselling . You are not the first to go through this .There are people who can help

  • @garyjohnson9037
    @garyjohnson90375 жыл бұрын

    Thank you, Mr. Dennett! As usual our reasoning is in complete alignment. Peace!

  • @luceret
    @luceret5 жыл бұрын

    Ironically, I learned more about other religions in Catholic school than most kids learn in public school.

  • @freshturnips1693
    @freshturnips16932 жыл бұрын

    It’s unfortunate that we may never have his proposal happen. We can’t even agree to teach our children basic historical events of our country.

  • @savagetofu1
    @savagetofu12 жыл бұрын

    Years ago, my college chemistry instructor taught me, that if your going to learn another religion, do so by someone of that faith. It might be difficult to take guitar lessons from a flute player…. (Although in some cases, I’m sure this’d work.) What a blessing it is to have fantastic teachers.

  • @1lightheaded

    @1lightheaded

    Жыл бұрын

    If you are going to take religious advise from a chemistry instructor .......

  • @savagetofu1

    @savagetofu1

    Жыл бұрын

    @@1lightheaded My professors name is Dr. Angel. (No joke) 😬

  • @grossindecency

    @grossindecency

    Жыл бұрын

    My Religious Education teacher was Christian. Personally, I think you should learn from someone NOT of a faith. My teacher was very disparaging of religions not his own.

  • @kahlesjf

    @kahlesjf

    Жыл бұрын

    He should have told you to learn from those who teach you how to think, not how to believe.

  • @Exceltrainingvideos
    @Exceltrainingvideos9 жыл бұрын

    How did religion evolve? When was the first time people started talking about God and why? Dan Dennet makes a lot of sense!

  • @tyndaleisrael7822

    @tyndaleisrael7822

    9 жыл бұрын

    evolution is full of hoaxes and divide and conquer meme… those who cooperate best survive the best. this kind of theory is what allows the Stalin's and Hitlers of the world to rise… geniuses of history have always known there was a God... “The gift of mental power comes from God, Divine Being, and if we concentrate our minds on that truth, we become in tune with this great power. My mother taught me to seek all truth in the Bible.” --Nikola Tesla "My worldly faculties are slipping away day by day Happy it is for all of us that the true good does not lie in them. As they ebb, may they leave us as little children, trusting in the Father of Mercies and accepting His unspeakable gift. I bow before Him who is Lord of all.” --Michael Faraday, on his death bed, one of the greatest experimental philosophers, Doctorate from Oxford University, holding 97 unsought for distinctions who discovered Electricity “This most beautiful system of the sun, planets, and comets, could only proceed from the counsel and dominion of an intelligent Being.” --Sir Isaac Newton, Principia, Book 3 “I think in the first place that it is very pious to say and prudent to affirm that the Holy Bible can never speak untruth-whenever its true meaning is understood.” --Galileo (Letter to Grand Duchess of Tuscany) “The chief aim of all investigations of the external world should be to discover the rational order which has been imposed on it by God, and which he revealed to us in the language of mathematics.” --Kepler “All matter originates and exists only by virtue of a force which brings the particle of an atom to vibration and holds this most minute solar system of the atom together. We must assume behind this force the existence of a conscious and intelligent mind. This mind is the matrix of all matter.” --Max Planck “When the answer is simple, God is answering.” “I am not an atheist, and I don’t think I can call myself a pantheist.”[20] “Then there are the fanatical atheists whose intolerance is of the same kind as the intolerance of the religious fanatics and comes from the same source.”[21] "There is harmony in the cosmos which I, with my limited human mind, am able to recognise, yet there are people who say there is no God. But what really makes me angry is that they quote me to support such views." “The most beautiful thing we can experience is the mysterious.” --Einstein “A common sense interpretation of the facts suggests that a super-intellect has monkeyed with physics, as well as with chemistry and biology, and that there are no blind forces worth speaking about in nature. The numbers one calculates from the facts seem to me so overwhelming as to put this conclusion almost beyond question." --Dr. Fred Hoyle (scientist who coined the term "Big Bang" who was unafraid to go wherever the facts led him, and who consequently recanted his atheism.) Head of Human Genome Project, Dr. Francis Collins, converts to Christianity "I set out to prove that my atheist position was correct." “Since everything that is in motion must be moved by something, let us suppose there is a thing in motion which was moved by something else in motion, and that by something else, and so on. But this series cannot go on to infinity, so there must be some First Mover.” --Aristotle, “Physics” “One cannot be exposed to the law and order of the universe without concluding that there must be design and purpose behind it all... To be forced to believe only one conclusion--that everything in the universe happened by chance--would violate the very objectivity of science itself.” --Werner von Braun, Letter to CA State Board of Education, 9/14/72 "The laws of nature produce no events, they state the pattern to which every event have only and can be induced to happen, must conform. Just as the rules of Arithmetic state the pattern to which all transactions of money, must conform, if only you can get a hold of any money. Thus in one sense the laws of nature cover the whole field of space and time. In another what they leave out is precisely the whole real universe. The incessant " "For every law says in the last resort: 'If you have A, then B." But first catch your A. The laws will not do it for you." --C.S.Lewis 12 min “The exquisite order displayed by our scientific understanding of the physical world calls for the Divine.” --Dr. Vera Kistiakowski, Prof. of Physics Emeritus, MIT “I stand in awe of God because of what He has done through his creation. Only a rookie who knows nothing about science would say science takes away from faith. If you really study science, it will bring you closer to God.” --Dr. James Tour, Nanoscientist, Rice Univ. “If physics is the product of design, the universe must have a purpose, and the evidence of modern physics suggests strongly to me that the purpose includes us.” Paul Davies, Superforce, (1984) “As we survey all the evidence, the thought insistently arises that some supernatural agency--or rather, Agency--must be involved. Is it possible that suddenly, without intending to, we have stumbled upon scientific proof for the existence of a Supreme Being?” --George Greenstein, Astrophysicist, The Symbiotic Universe (1988) “If everything in the universe came into being, then the cause of the universe must be transcendent, not a part of this universe,” Strauss argued. “Science kind of stumbled onto something that the Bible declared long ago … that the universe had a beginning.” --yt: Scientific Evidence for God - Dr. Strauss “If some god-like being could be given the opportunity to plan a sequence of events with the express purpose of duplicating our “Garden of Eden,” that being would face a formidable task...it is unlikely that the Earth could ever be truly duplicated.” --Peter Ward, Geologist & Donald Brownlee, Astronomer “Rare Earth” (2000) “It is my science that drove me to the conclusion that the world is much more complicated than science... It is only through the supernatural that I can understand the mystery of existence.” --Alan Sandage, Astronomer (Newsweek, 1998) “Where do you get information from?” Dr. John Lennox, Mathematics, Oxford Univ. “Natural selection reduces genetic information.” Dr. Marciej Giertych, Population Geneticist, EU youtube: The Case For A Creator With Lee Strobel yt: Latest Scientific Evidence for God's Existence - Hugh Ross, PhD yt: Young Earth - Young Universe yt: Scientific Evidence for God - Dr. Strauss

  • @ZenShroud1

    @ZenShroud1

    9 жыл бұрын

    Tyndale Israel None of that means anything. >.

  • @doratheexploder286

    @doratheexploder286

    9 жыл бұрын

    Tyndale Israel Clearly you do not understand evolution. Get some books and read them(proper science books,even 5th grade level ones would do for you I think)

  • @tyndaleisrael7822

    @tyndaleisrael7822

    9 жыл бұрын

    Odd jørgensen “There are no detailed Darwinian accounts for the evolution of any fundamental biochemical or cellular systems, only a variety of wishful speculations.” Dr. James Shapiro, evolutionary microbiologist, Univ. of Chicago

  • @tyndaleisrael7822

    @tyndaleisrael7822

    9 жыл бұрын

    yarpen800 It is interesting that scientists have analyzed the Creation story of the Bible and seen a scientific method embedded within it. Probably one reason so many scientists believe in God and have contributed so much. John Ray-Founder of Biology and Devout Christian Ray quoted experiments by Francesco Redi which contradicted spontaneous generation. Ray said that “My observation and affirmation is that there is no such thing in nature” and he referred to spontaneous generation as “the atheist’s fictitious and ridiculous account of the first production of mankind and other animals.” “He declared fossils were the petrified remains of extinct creatures. This was not accepted by biologists generally until a century later.” I am not religious, btw. Patrick Henry made a very clear statement: "It cannot be emphasized too often or too strongly that this great nation was founded not by religionists but by Christians; not on religions but on the gospel of Jesus Christ....It is for this reason that people of other faiths have been afforded asylum, prosperity and freedom of worship here." “If you ask an American, who is his master? He will tell you he has none, nor any governor but Jesus Christ.” --Jonathan Trumbull, c. 1770; Faith of Our Fathers Newsletter Fall 2003, vol 1 Issue 11

  • @rogerfroud300
    @rogerfroud3007 жыл бұрын

    There's one huge element missing in Dan's proposal about the teaching of Religion in schools.He doesn't even mention the fastest growing single group, and that's those without any Religious belief. Secular values and attitudes towards Religion will ultimately be the dominant force shaping society. That's because information is readily available on the internet, and information is the enemy of Religion. He's remarkably generous towards Rick Warren, who by most people's standards is certainly a Creationist and the enemy of truth. Dan is clever in not turning off the Religious in the audience, who in the USA are bound to be largely Christian. Hopefully they made it to the end without turning off.

  • @iseegood5609

    @iseegood5609

    7 жыл бұрын

    Information is not an enemy of faith in God but it is an enemy of hypocrisy and many traditions. Wisdom is the proper timing and application of information.

  • @iseegood5609

    @iseegood5609

    7 жыл бұрын

    He talks about sheep. Have you read "Treasures in The Book of Job" that book has a very interesting take on animal domestication.

  • @jonnie106

    @jonnie106

    7 жыл бұрын

    Information is the enemy of specific faith because amassed factual information provides reason and proof to either maintain the faith, shift it elsewhere or drop it entirely. Thus the reason why religious schools acknowledge the existence of other religions but they give very little information (if any at all) for learning about those other religions. Ties into Dan's general point.

  • @ReflectedMiles

    @ReflectedMiles

    7 жыл бұрын

    It would certainly be important that Atheism, particularly militant Atheism, be included in the religions presented. It seems to me that the overall histories and factual outcomes of them (not accusing or defending) would be important to present as well so that the students have some idea of what they achieve, e.g., the religion's representation in the belief systems of world leaders, nations, groups, actions that have resulted, etc. For a student to best understand Islam, for example, It is much more instructive to understand the philosophy and average condition of life, freedoms, peace, standards of justice, etc., that have derived from the practice of its tenets in devout Islamic societies like Saudi Arabia than it is to have the tenets presented without any idea of their practical outcomes.

  • @rogerfroud300

    @rogerfroud300

    7 жыл бұрын

    Reflected Miles Militant Atheism is not a Religion. It isn't organised along Religious grounds with Churches and congregations and it isn't founded on faith. There's no reason why Secular viewpoints can't be included in the class discussion, but they most certainly should not be listed alongside the different faiths because those views are not a Religion. I certainly agree that the outcomes of the various faiths ought to be taught, this is important. The way it distorts government policy throughout the world needs to be explored. For example, how it's all but impossible for an Atheist to be elected in the USA. The Middle Eastern countries, and groups such as ISIS and the Taliban should also be examined when it comes to how they have turned countries into rubble. Another outcome is the catastrophic effect that Islam has had on the Muslim scientific community which, for all practical purposes, has collapsed.

  • @juless3568
    @juless35684 жыл бұрын

    Looking foward to read the books of Daniel Dennett.

  • @rorytennes8576
    @rorytennes85764 жыл бұрын

    I love to hear Dan speak.

  • @StrikaAmaru
    @StrikaAmaru5 жыл бұрын

    6:15 "Misinformed consent is worthless" Oooooh, what a painful statement, in light of Brexit.

  • @illigitimus5020

    @illigitimus5020

    4 жыл бұрын

    Elizabeta Macovei Yep, misinformed consent is what took us into that shambles in the 70’s

  • @Fletchlie

    @Fletchlie

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@illigitimus5020 👍

  • @jameswyatt1227

    @jameswyatt1227

    4 жыл бұрын

    Could not agree more...the remainers definitely tried to lie to everyone. ..what a waste of there time..long live England. ..death to europe .

  • @DoberDudeProductions

    @DoberDudeProductions

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@jameswyatt1227, you're the very definition of a cretin.

  • @gromlek8327
    @gromlek83278 жыл бұрын

    How can anyone think that keeping people ignorant of other faiths will keep theirs pure? The very idea of a belief or faith is to believe and/or have faith in your belief/faith. If your belief or faith in your religion is so weak that you fear knowledge of another religion, just how much faith or belief in your religion do you have? If you really want to convert others to your religion, go out and live well, and others will follow.

  • @blacksileighty2

    @blacksileighty2

    7 жыл бұрын

    Absolutely

  • @TechReviewTom

    @TechReviewTom

    7 жыл бұрын

    Most serious religious people would not fear a proposal like this.

  • @landrewmackinnon4888

    @landrewmackinnon4888

    6 жыл бұрын

    Gromlek follow you even to poisoned koolaid.

  • @markrogers7546

    @markrogers7546

    4 жыл бұрын

    The faith of evolution and atheism is a perfect example of total ignorance!

  • @FarSeeker8

    @FarSeeker8

    4 жыл бұрын

    Then why do Atheists keep fellow Atheists ignorant of Christianity?

  • @jwhipple5567
    @jwhipple55674 жыл бұрын

    I generally love Dan Dennett, but I wish he was a better public speaker. He wanders around his points like a group of Amish people in a Best Buy: enthusiastic but a little confused and fundamentally unable or unwilling to commit to anything in a definitive way.

  • @cam553

    @cam553

    4 жыл бұрын

    I found him better in this than some of his other clips but I get the point. I find Hitchens tricky to understand too but mostly because of his references and quotes to cryptic stuff. Dawkins seems the easiest generally, with Sam Harris not far behind.

  • @alexauman2111

    @alexauman2111

    4 жыл бұрын

    I actually think Dan is probably the second best. With Sam Harris being far at the top.

  • @Logiconfire

    @Logiconfire

    4 жыл бұрын

    Poor fellow is clueless.

  • @Kings_New_Clothese
    @Kings_New_Clothese2 жыл бұрын

    Dan was one of my teachers at the LSE. Wonderful man.

  • @Ronald0GasparRios-cf8ek

    @Ronald0GasparRios-cf8ek

    11 ай бұрын

    increíble

  • @robind.phillips2129
    @robind.phillips21296 жыл бұрын

    I learned some things that sparked my curiosity, in my art history class...at the age of 53.

  • @ArnesKlisura
    @ArnesKlisura7 жыл бұрын

    I like Daniel Dennet even if I am not atheist. I think he is the best from all 4 horseman of new atheism. He is honest and he says a few times that he "believes" certain things and he points to what he thinks is the problem without judging. The guy has a lot understanding and integrity, at least based on this talk.

  • @eddy2dend

    @eddy2dend

    7 жыл бұрын

    If you are not an atheist then shut up.

  • @ArnesKlisura

    @ArnesKlisura

    7 жыл бұрын

    eddy2dend if you are not a theist you should shut up :D

  • @eddy2dend

    @eddy2dend

    7 жыл бұрын

    Guys, of course, I would never lose in my dream world either. Bam!

  • @stephanesurprenant60

    @stephanesurprenant60

    7 жыл бұрын

    Dennett is a wonderful philosopher and he seems like the kind of individual with whom discussions can be very fruitful. because he really does listen to other people.

  • @atouloupas

    @atouloupas

    7 жыл бұрын

    Arnes Klisura Sorry man, just forgive this eddy2dend guy. I promise that there are a lot more logical and kind people in the atheist club. Well, at least if you join us ;)

  • @metaspherz
    @metaspherz2 жыл бұрын

    When somebody asks "Who" designed such and such an animal, it is a leading question and you have to know that their answer will always be God or Intelligent Design.

  • @GPCster

    @GPCster

    2 жыл бұрын

    Paleontologists speaking to lay audiences make that mistake all the time. Such-and-so is "designed" for grasping, etc.

  • @abirroy1333
    @abirroy13332 жыл бұрын

    One must understand life to live it purposefully, in other words, only truth can us free Thank you soo much for your speech it was wonderful

  • @odertube
    @odertube7 жыл бұрын

    I know he's a member of the infamous 4 horsemen but I've never really listened to him. Time to search all his videos. :D

  • @stevenunua2118

    @stevenunua2118

    7 жыл бұрын

    Believers don't listen to anything.

  • @larrysbrain1627

    @larrysbrain1627

    7 жыл бұрын

    same goes here ! Dennett is brilliant. I'm excited!

  • @andrewjebb8156

    @andrewjebb8156

    7 жыл бұрын

    He's the least militant--and my favorite--of the four.

  • @cremedelacorn5356

    @cremedelacorn5356

    7 жыл бұрын

    +Andrew Jebb same!

  • @dogless10

    @dogless10

    7 жыл бұрын

    A classic talk - thanx for posting.

  • @ItsOElA
    @ItsOElA8 жыл бұрын

    how is he so calm when pointing out the BS in warrens book?

  • @HPGCHEMIST1

    @HPGCHEMIST1

    7 жыл бұрын

    Because religions are for ignorant people !

  • @thiagowutzkeod2453

    @thiagowutzkeod2453

    5 жыл бұрын

    ItsOElA Because he knows he's right. Wish i saw warren's face

  • @dashlamb9318

    @dashlamb9318

    5 жыл бұрын

    He is "so calm" because one has to use drugs to counter the bullshit that Rick Warrren puts out. Bullshit that even he does not believe, if the truth were known.

  • @smileybubbles9894

    @smileybubbles9894

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@HPGCHEMIST1 correct! Ignorant is not knowing so read the word and get educated and you won't be ignorant anymore

  • @andrewheffel928

    @andrewheffel928

    4 жыл бұрын

    I felt there was an undercurrent of well controlled rage in his voice. And understandably so, Rick stands for everything Dan hates.

  • @willstorm8331
    @willstorm83314 жыл бұрын

    I haven't met one minister that learned anything about comparitive theology after numerous conversations. That in itself is a key indicator that those who study the area the knowledge given is cut down and carefully purged to induct a person into only a very small p0rtion of a vast body of study. They will only ever know how to practice their brand without question, and that is a major indictment of religion as a whole.

  • @erict.watson2460

    @erict.watson2460

    4 жыл бұрын

    I have - you must've encountered less well informed and intentioned preachers on your travels. I do agree, however, that yours are sadly probably more typical of the experiences of others.

  • @JOLchurch

    @JOLchurch

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@erict.watson2460 I am a minister who reads widely. Sam Harris's podcast is one of my "don't miss" inputs every week. But many of my colleagues don't take any time to learn outside our denomination (with the exception of the one comparative religions of the world class that was required in my seminary).

  • @erict.watson2460

    @erict.watson2460

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@JOLchurch sad isn't it?

  • @ebob4177
    @ebob41773 жыл бұрын

    This guy looked +60 but his brain was so quick. No pausing. I feel so slow. 😌

  • @SIMKINETICS
    @SIMKINETICS9 жыл бұрын

    I look forward to the day when bookstores & libraries label a new section for books 'Religion & other fiction'.

  • @19Prometheus89

    @19Prometheus89

    9 жыл бұрын

    They dont need to do it where i live. I just go around putting them in the fiction section for them. Saves them the task. (PS: i will pre-empt the possible tirade by stating i was kidding. I have never done the above.)

  • @politicsequalsgarbag

    @politicsequalsgarbag

    9 жыл бұрын

    There is, it's called "fantasy"

  • @19Prometheus89

    @19Prometheus89

    9 жыл бұрын

    Jay Wendt There has never been any real point where i live. Here you are likely to get thrown out and banned (Kinda need access to that bookstore. We only have the one). And it would not suprise me if they tried to involve the police. As funny as the idea has always been to me. It would only ever be an exercise in futility.

  • @19Prometheus89

    @19Prometheus89

    9 жыл бұрын

    Jay Wendt Hahaha! Now that does sound like it would be a good one to try. Got to practice my serious face, for added comic effect. :)

  • @19Prometheus89

    @19Prometheus89

    9 жыл бұрын

    Jay Wendt Think i heard about that. It was Walmart, i think. I cant really speak for the US, as i am British, but it is odd that in a supposed secular country the bible is practically forced on you. I actually took the bible down to the reception desk once (I was in a bad mood) and told them i found it offensive. Its policy apparently, so i was told. Anyway, i got a free night out of it. (No kidding) In the UK religion is a tense subject. Most people are very PC about it. And yet, the bible and Christianity is still pushed on us.

  • @mellosays
    @mellosays8 жыл бұрын

    He has a strong point. Religion has been the basis of culture throughout our history. Decisions were usually made, and still are in certain circumstances, based on religion. Therefore, since it's such an important element of our history, it should be taught in schools from the historical point of view. But I believe we don't need religion to be the basis of cultures anymore. Reason and sciences should take over this space. And I'd go further by saying that children should not be brain washed with any creed whatsoever. Why grow believing in a particular religion? What right does a parent have in inculcating a bunch of lies into his/her child's brain? Our awkward, religious history should be part of only the past and we should move forward learning, pursuing many other and more interesting, useful studies of things that actually exist.

  • @TorianTammas

    @TorianTammas

    8 жыл бұрын

    +cHRISmERRITTmUSIC The problem here is that some strands of monotheism become fundamentalistic and make truth claims about the universe and others. As they take literal what is at best an allegory they close their eyes and mind from reality. They claim stories about a god are true instead of accepting that followers produced fan fiction to express their believe in this god.

  • @differous01

    @differous01

    8 жыл бұрын

    +Caramelo ~ Religion is part of history, and also part of the history of philosophy. I was rather surprised, after school, to learn that the ancient Greeks had ideas of atoms (Democritus), evolution (Anaximander, Empedocles), the spherical shape of the earth (Eratosthenes) and of secular, constitutional politics (Aristotle).

  • @mellosays

    @mellosays

    8 жыл бұрын

    +differous01 In fact, our society would be much more advanced if it weren't for the loss of most studies done and documented by the Greeks. We've had to relearn and rediscover so many things that had already been found before, not to mention that we probably have not rediscovered much that is lost. Now, I hope you also learned in school of what caused the loss of such enormous collection of knowledge that came from the Greeks and other advanced societies of the time: the all powerful Catholic Church. The Church started by burning down the Library of Alexandria where most discoveries were stored in scrolls of papyrus. And we all know the rest of the history of persecution by the Church and the many intellectuals the institution assassinated. Imagine how the world would be today if during documented human history there had been no religion to thwart human curiosity and quest for knowledge. I think it would be much, much better because we wouldn't be so much immersed in long lasting impenetrable ignorance that religious bigots created for us throughout the centuries.

  • @differous01

    @differous01

    8 жыл бұрын

    Caramelo What caused the loss of such enormous collection of knowledge was not the Catholic Church per ce, but the influence of Plato's Republic, as incorporated into Christianity by the likes of St Augustine (his 'City of God'). Platonism hinges upon a superstitious belief in 'Forms' and in inductive reasoning from those pre-supposed moral entities. It became necessary, as Plato advised, to suppress teaching which relied on deductive reasoning. The closing of the School of Athens resulted in the works of Aristotle disappearing from the scriptoria of Europe and appearing in Persia. Here they flourished until 1100 when one Al-Ghazili did the same thing the Catholic Neo-Platonists did; breaking the link of cause and effect (in his work 'Incoherence of the Philosophers'). This ended Islam's Golden Age but sparked Europe's Renaissance (re-birth); Ibn-Rushd's commentaries on Aristotle, rescued from the fall of Cordoba, formed the basis for Aquinas's 'City of God', and England's Magna Carta. Separation of religion and state only became reality with the Founding Fathers of the US, but we have Ibn-Rushd to thank for preserving that ancient Greek notion.

  • @ksan1648

    @ksan1648

    8 жыл бұрын

    +Caramelo "Reason and sciences should take over this space," or in other words, another de facto religion. All culture within a 'civilized' context is brainwashing.

  • @HughMorristheJoker
    @HughMorristheJoker4 жыл бұрын

    Religions are important to study, idiotic to follow dogmatically.

  • @kennyjharland

    @kennyjharland

    4 жыл бұрын

    I'm guessing you have birthdays celebrate new years Christmas Halloween! I'm also guessing you refer to the weeks months and even the planets in the sky all by their religious names as well as using religious names throughout your family. No one is free from religion the only difference is religious people are half concious of what they believe.

  • @kennyjharland

    @kennyjharland

    4 жыл бұрын

    Its more idiotic to follow one and not even know it lol idiot

  • @HughMorristheJoker

    @HughMorristheJoker

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@kennyjharland that is not following religion. I don't go to church. I don't believe in a deity. I don't feel guilty about not following the rules of a religious book. I don't feel guilty about natural desires and actions. Because we use common names and because we are influenced by a culture informed by religion did not mean we follow the dogma of a religion. What you said was really stupid.

  • @kennyjharland

    @kennyjharland

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@HughMorristheJoker you certainly participate? granted it is unintentionally but none the less you engage in the traditional religious holidays and practices! And you will no doubt "believe" in the men that tell you there is a higher power a benefactor to how and why we are here! Yours Is a big bang chance and natural selection all blind and not conscious but none the less it's a unseen force you believe in and live you life according too! As for you celebrations and festival lol you haven't got any of your own so you still blindly follow all the ones traditionally practiced like birthday and new year!! If anything you're pagan! You might intentionally and verbally say you're atheist but your actions and philosophy are technically religious you just dont acknowledge it.

  • @HughMorristheJoker

    @HughMorristheJoker

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@kennyjharland that's just a lot of assumptions with no validity

  • @gyozakeynsianism
    @gyozakeynsianism2 жыл бұрын

    Dan Dennett's really smart, and I think smarter than people appreciate. This isn't just about religion. How many times have we come across people who will simply not listen to contrary opinions because "the devil" is so wily and cunning?

  • @stevenunua2118
    @stevenunua21187 жыл бұрын

    Knowing Truth will "make" you free is the quote. NOT knowing Truth enslaves you. NOT knowing is the foundation of belief the foundation of imaginary gawds and religions.

  • @stevenunua2118

    @stevenunua2118

    7 жыл бұрын

    Shawn Steuer No one. Truth does not exist in universal reality. Learning what Truth IN Reality is the quest of each person. A perfect Truth is a perfect realization of Reality.

  • @stevenunua2118

    @stevenunua2118

    7 жыл бұрын

    BELIEF and the BELIEF SYSTEM My primary research is a study to elucidate: WHAT IS “belief” and the “belief system?” What is their duality? What “good or bad” has been and is connected to the belief system? Most people believe that Truth and Reality are conceptual. This means most people invent in their brain what Truth and Reality is...and then “believe” what they invented is real. My goal has been to deprogram and retrain my brain to function without: opinion, bias, preconceived ideas, indoctrinated education AND to eliminate beliefs and disbelief from my analogies. Obviously a daunting task. I consider the evolution of “intellect” just as important as developing “intelligence.” Intellect is the thinking process that has all the tools of discernment that SHOULD be used when working to learn or realize anything as Truth IN Reality. And most certainly applied before belief or disbelief are invoked. The danger I have experienced and see in our humanity...is that belief and disbelief are a form of “certainty” that closes the mind and brain to intellect discerment. I try to steer away from any discussion of the “symptoms” of belief in this study because they always become to emotional and adversarial. However, I do also work to define what the “symptoms” of belief (cause and effect) are and what part does belief play in mankind’s history, personal life, society at large, the world population and governments? So, because this is an ongoing study, I can NOT claim to have any definitive answers. So instead...I offer a few statements to open a dialogue and critical thinking, that hopefully I will use to help further my study. The question is...is there any truth, validity or interesting insight to the following statements? 1. People believe that Truth and Reality are conceptual. This is saying we invent in our heads what they are and then believe what we invent is Truth and Reality. Authoritarians spin pure fantasy as Truth and Reality and force with physical and mental stratagem...the fantasy “belief system” onto people. Believing that a fantasy is Reality creates huge cognitive dissidence because the brain knows better and is in a constant state of confusion when forced to believe fantasy is Reality. When a person stops believing...the universe of Reality becomes clear and the real work of developing my/our Truth of Reality begins. A brain free of beliefs begins to discovers/realizes what real Truth and Reality is. 2. Learning how to think and discover with a mind free of opinion, bias, preconceived ideas and beliefs...with a truly open mind, willing to do the task of intellect discernment, is daunting and truly impossible for most people because they simply have never been shown how and most are stuck in the indoctrinated world of choosing belief or disbelief as their only options. 3. The psychology of belief is that once a person invokes/commits their brain to the belief...it closes the mind to dialectic intellect discernment, logic and reason. Any attempt to change the belief is repelled with anger, rage even physical harm. Belief is a horrifically dangerous mental tool that is used without a full understanding of its dangerous potential. And it is not yet being recognized for the 5000 years of insanity it has wrought on mankind. 4. When belief and disbelief are taken out of the equation...the universe begins to reveal itself to you. Most people cannot fathom NOT having beliefs...even though it is obvious that beliefs are what has been and IS controlling us. We are protecting our “belief system” abuser...this is a form of Stockholm syndrome insanity. 5. My use of big T and R. I try to separate mans invented truth and reality from what I call “real” Truth IN Reality. Truth does not exist in the universe so a search for it is futile. Reality...IS...the universe and what we learn of it becomes our personal Truth. Truth exists inside each of us. A “perfect” Truth or knowing of Reality...would be a perfect realization of the universe Reality. I think we have a long way to go to get to a perfect Truth of Reality level. But it is a MOST admirable and desirable quest...which epitomizes my study and research.

  • @stevenunua2118

    @stevenunua2118

    7 жыл бұрын

    Reality IS the universe. Truth exists in your head just as beliefs do. So do we consider thoughts and emotions part of the universe or Reality? Are Truth and beliefs actually real? This is up to each individual to decipher for themselves.

  • @ndpenname
    @ndpenname8 жыл бұрын

    I love this talk so much.

  • @wahnano
    @wahnano3 жыл бұрын

    Education opens the mind, while indoctrination closes it. Peace!

  • @freddan6fly

    @freddan6fly

    3 жыл бұрын

    Yet flat earthers and YEC believes claims they are open minded. I think they are so open minded that their brain fell out.

  • @wahnano

    @wahnano

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@freddan6fly: The Sun rises and sets each day." This sounds like a statement about the Sun. But it is actually a statement about us, about our planet. It tells that we and our planet is moving, not the Sun.

  • @SStupendous

    @SStupendous

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@freddan6fly Flat Earthers.. those things still exists? A 15th-century sailor would laugh if you said the Earth was flat.

  • @freddan6fly

    @freddan6fly

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@SStupendous Check "SciManDan" the most famous debunker of flat earth on youtube.

  • @SStupendous

    @SStupendous

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@freddan6fly All you need is someone older than 7 to debunk it.

  • @alacrit6676
    @alacrit66768 ай бұрын

    As an anecdote, being a kid, the only thing you heard was “I'm making the first communion because of the gifts” − That was South Spain, predominantly right-wing, 2005

  • @Me-wk3ix
    @Me-wk3ix5 жыл бұрын

    You know, he really does kind of have a point. I feel like if we understood where other people are coming from, we could foster more understanding. I don't think there is a case for ignorance being bliss.

  • @karlhansson1731
    @karlhansson17319 жыл бұрын

    First: brilliant! Second: my friend has a severe form OCD and is currently crying in the bathroom because of her sharing almost every idea mr. Denne discussest, but his beard is off center...

  • @GraduateMonkey
    @GraduateMonkey4 жыл бұрын

    5:53'Democracy depends on informed citizenship, informed consent.' Priceless. This makes a lot of sense. This explains why bad things happen in democratic societies such as electing the wrong politician )

  • @stoopidapples1596

    @stoopidapples1596

    2 жыл бұрын

    This is why democracy fails. Because the ruling class can just misinform it’s citizens and people won’t recognize it.

  • @Charlie-wl2qt

    @Charlie-wl2qt

    2 жыл бұрын

    Exactly. It's why(well, one of the reasons why.., it's a little more complicated) Socrates himself was opposed to Democracy. How can you expect uninformed, or misinformed, commoners to Democratically decide who should rule while being completely ignorant?

  • @VaughanMcCue
    @VaughanMcCue12 күн бұрын

    Thanks for keeping his wisdom alive

  • @cre8ivartist
    @cre8ivartist10 жыл бұрын

    This is already in the UK education system. Kids learn about all the main religions as well as differing denominations of each religion. They are taught what Creationism is. All of this in Religious Education class. In science they are taught evolution because that, of course, is proven fact. Dennett is extremely wise to propose this and it perfectly fits the First Amendment. It teaches tolerance to young people and at the same time encourages them to think critically and independently about the world around them: allow them to make up their own minds as to what to believe. No wonder so many conservative Christians in America would be against this, it makes it harder to spread their poison!

  • @RikardPeterson

    @RikardPeterson

    6 жыл бұрын

    In Sweden too, since the 60s. It's slightly odd to hear him talk about it as if it's such a radical idea (which I guess it is in religiously extreme countries like the USA or… Saudi Arabia?).

  • @mytube001

    @mytube001

    6 жыл бұрын

    I went to school in Sweden in the 80s, and "religion" as a school subject was then still very much "Christianity, and some cursory stuff about 3-4 other world religions".

  • @norbertkasko1438

    @norbertkasko1438

    6 жыл бұрын

    mytube001 In Hungary at the begining of the 21st century the same. We learnt about old religions like Greek mythology, ancient Egypts gods, etc. But when we reached the point in history when Christianity was born we doesn't learned about another religions that are still exists.

  • @enigma7070
    @enigma70705 жыл бұрын

    I could listen to Dennett all day long. He's a rare voice of reason.

  • @aljoschalong625
    @aljoschalong6254 жыл бұрын

    I also thought the proposition to be hilarious. Not ridiculous, just the oposite: I think the proposition is great. I find it hilarious to think about the likely outcome, if it could be installed: So many parents would be so disappointed that their children turn out to be atheists after having heard of all the different fantasy tales.

  • @benjamingilley9629

    @benjamingilley9629

    2 жыл бұрын

    Imagine if they did that for evolution too. Imagine if they actually had to be honest about what they actually know and what they believe to be based on faith. It’s the biggest cult in modern history by a long shot.

  • @aljoschalong625

    @aljoschalong625

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@benjamingilley9629 I know, you live in America. But still: Information is not so hard to come by. You shouldn't brag about you utter lack of education, it makes you look like an idiot.

  • @logans.butler285
    @logans.butler28512 күн бұрын

    Gone, but never forgotten. I will always regard him as one of the greatest atheist philosophers of our time. Rest in Peace good man 😞

  • @janicemurphy7878
    @janicemurphy78787 жыл бұрын

    He looks a little like David Letterman's older brother both of them were smart but in different ways

  • @NikolausLife
    @NikolausLife8 жыл бұрын

    What film is he talking about at 18:25?

  • @FloorEncer

    @FloorEncer

    7 жыл бұрын

    transcript @ www.ted.com/talks/dan_dennett_s_response_to_rick_warren/transcript?language=en "By the way, I find -- Homer Groening's film presented a beautiful alternative to that very claim. Yes, there is meaning and a reason for right or wrong. We don't need a belief in God to be good or to have meaning in us. But that, as I said, is just a difference of opinion. That's not what I'm really worried about."

  • @NikolausLife

    @NikolausLife

    7 жыл бұрын

    I guess I should clarify...Which of Homer Groening's films is he referring to?

  • @isthisshit4real
    @isthisshit4real4 жыл бұрын

    I took a world religion course in college, so did my brother. We both independently decided to take the courses at different colleges. He is older than I am. We grew up in a home that was warm, loving, intellectually stimulating, and NOT focused on religion. We did go to church a few times when we were young, then stopped when we got older and too busy. Our parents encouraged us to select our own religion when we became adults. My brother and I are both non-denominational Christians. I think we were both heavily influenced by the woman who took care of us when we were children - she was there when we came home after school or if our parents went out for the night. She was much more than a "babysitter." She was older than out parents. She was the kindest and most devout woman I've ever met. Her living spirit was so beautiful. I NEVER, EVER saw her angry at another person. She was my comfort AND my protector when I was a shy, vulnerable child. She chased away ANYONE who bothered me. She glowed with her love of God. If that isn't inspiring, I'm not sure what is.

  • @onedaya_martian1238

    @onedaya_martian1238

    3 жыл бұрын

    I know a Muslim lady in Egypt who was the same. Should I believe in Allah ?

  • @PBAmygdala2021
    @PBAmygdala20213 жыл бұрын

    Religious adherence is expression of the right amygdala in the limbic region of the brain: threat detection, fear, group loyalty, and submission to authority figures.

  • @HelloTuuuurdz

    @HelloTuuuurdz

    2 жыл бұрын

    Whoa

  • @MrAdryan1603
    @MrAdryan16035 жыл бұрын

    What an amazing, brilliant man. You just can't deny this kind logic. LOVE it! Cheers

  • @jessewallace12able
    @jessewallace12able5 жыл бұрын

    As a Christian, I am in much more agreement with Dennet than Rick Warren. People like Rick Warren do not work on behalf of Jesus with their books and mega-churches: they work on behalf of themselves.

  • @andrewheffel928

    @andrewheffel928

    5 жыл бұрын

    Really? In what way does Rick Warren benefit himself from his church? Do a quick Internet search, Google Rick Warren net worth. He does not take a salary from his church. His income comes from the books he writes. And he donates most of that, in fact, over 90%. No fancy car, house, or bank account for Rick Warren. He is in it to serve God.

  • @jerryhewes
    @jerryhewes4 жыл бұрын

    Thank you Dan Dennett. If you want to know more consider the role of principles. What would happen should we identify and apply our Principles of Existence?

  • @kylehibshman6619
    @kylehibshman66192 жыл бұрын

    This sums up my main issue with religion pretty well. It's the epistemological irresponsibility of the whole thing. "Dont think, just do what the magic book says" is dangerous and foolish.

  • @commonchristian917

    @commonchristian917

    2 жыл бұрын

    Thanks for the new vocabulary word :) I will say, I am a Christian and I totally agree with you - any religion that says "don't think" is very dangerous. Unfortunately, in every faith (especially, it seems, in Christianity), there are charlatans that do exactly what you say - they misdirect, misquote, misrepresent, use psychological devices, 'thought-stopping' tactics, etc. to get their audience to think what they want them to think about, not what the Word of God (yes, I believe the Holy Bible) wants them to think about. A true, open study of Christianity and what the Bible actually says and teaches, though, yields very interesting results. If someone were going to generate a fake religion, the Bible would have been the absolutely WORST way to do it -- the writers (especially of the New Testament) were portrayed as weak, ignorant, deceptive, petty, and afraid. Jesus, claiming to be God, picked an apostle that later betrayed him, and let Gentiles kill him (isn't he God? If so, why so weak?) Matthew, a Jewish tax collector (they were quite literally the considered traitors by Jews) authored one of the Gospels and wrote it to Jews (couldn't they have used someone more noble?) . Another primary writer, Paul, was a Pharisee and advocated the jailing / killing of Christians until he was converted AND apparently a bad speaker. Couldn't they have gotten someone more appealing to write this stuff down? Christianity teaches you can't do ANYTHING of your own effort to save yourself from God's wrath (that's not very encouraging), that you should love even your enemies (wow that sounds weak), to not be showboating your obedience to God (wait, I do this stuff and don't even get CREDIT for it from other people?), and you may actually lose your family or even your life if you follow Christ. Sorry, but if *I* were going to make a religion up -- Christianity is literally the worst way to do it. Yet here we are ;) I invite you do some honest research. I did the same when I was ~20 or so and it's fascinating. Thanks!

  • @kurtisdaroule8245
    @kurtisdaroule82458 жыл бұрын

    I love this guy.

  • @Noone-of-your-Business
    @Noone-of-your-Business5 жыл бұрын

    Finally someone who addresses the evolutionary origins of religions. He needs to elaborate on that _much_ more.

  • @Ronald0GasparRios-cf8ek

    @Ronald0GasparRios-cf8ek

    11 ай бұрын

    Frazer- Rama dorada

  • @alonespirit_1Q84
    @alonespirit_1Q843 жыл бұрын

    Yes, "Philosophy of Religion" particularly kills off a lot biases, prejudices and superstitions regarding a religion, so does "Comparative Mythology", Symbology, Analytical Philosophy (Especially Jungian works and Campbell's Books) and so on. It's all about interpreting and understanding the metaphors before we blindly discard them.

  • @publicopinion3596
    @publicopinion35964 жыл бұрын

    I think also the keys to culture is language and the environmental adaptation and ethics of that group