Damian Lillard analysis | How his unlimited range is breaking NBA defenses
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How good is Damian Lillard right now? Should he be in the MVP conversation? This detailed film breakdown & scouting report of the Portland Trailblazer star guard breaks down the effect of his incredible outside shooting range while incorporating analytics & stats to assess his overall impact.
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that graph really shows how insane curry was in 16 lol
@krlllx
3 жыл бұрын
@D Thomas not the original.
@felipemasas
3 жыл бұрын
Best offensive season of all time by far
@angelsosa5903
3 жыл бұрын
That curry was insane dude was shooting the lights out from 3 greatest shooter i ever seen
@adamv9892
3 жыл бұрын
D Thomas definitely not the original, yes the greatest, but Dame has more range
@blakemasters5742
3 жыл бұрын
Adam V no he doesn’t, curry been doing those deep shots for years bro
"The ability to penetrate" *moans*, cmon now Ben
@far06c
3 жыл бұрын
Lol he’s trolling us
@thebookinthehead4573
3 жыл бұрын
There is only one God, and there is only one way that people can reach God. That way is through Christ Jesus, who as a man gave himself to pay for everyone to be free. This is the message that was given to us at just the right time. 1 Timothy 2:5-6 ERV
@justinwright3977
3 жыл бұрын
The Book In The Head 🙏
@SI10379
3 жыл бұрын
@@kentonmcbride when u think ab it there's sm sus phrases in basketball. "Good / Hard D " , " A sweet stroke" "penetrate" "wet" etc.
@JM1992
3 жыл бұрын
Just trying to be Stephen A Smith
3:24 "Now there is the question of whether these are _good shots_ ," he says, immediately after showing the clip on Paul George.
@injusticeanywherethreatens265
Жыл бұрын
I could taste the shade lmao
What impresses me most about his range is that his 30 footers are smooth and fluid like he's shooting a normal 3. Normally to shoot from that range players need to heave their body into it and that throws off their mechanics a bit and lowers their shooting percentage. Lillard has some real strength in his body to keep his form at that distance.
@greatness7619
3 жыл бұрын
Lebron does it too If you search you’ll see him pulling from half court like its a normal jumpshot🤣
@wallstreetzoomer
3 жыл бұрын
A lot of players can do that lol, but of course only Lillard (and Curry) can make them at a 40 percent clip.
@leilaziani9833
3 жыл бұрын
@@wallstreetzoomer For now tho. I see Trae and Robinson making those on a consistent base in a couple of years.
@GANGLYMAN117
3 жыл бұрын
@@leilaziani9833 i don't think Trae is going to be as much of a sniper as people think. Though he certainly loves pulling from deep he only makes 33 percent. His college 3 percentage was never great either. Watch Bens vid on Trae he explains why Trae might not be a 40% shooter.
@Zaghzackio
3 жыл бұрын
TheHumbleNarcissist trae is only 21 hes gonna get better. Curry was still in college at this point in his career
Those hand offs certainly tug on the d, thanks Thinking Basketball.
@Richbeans115
3 жыл бұрын
This finished me
@Zaghzackio
3 жыл бұрын
Lmfaoo sus
@migz23
3 жыл бұрын
They also pull out bigs
@adambryant8416
Жыл бұрын
I fs thought the whole comment section was gonna be saying that. Guess not lol
@TheRealAbraxas
Жыл бұрын
“Tug on the D” 💦💦💦
I love that their mistakes/ imperfections are shown in these videos as well. It really puts their game into perspective and shows the nuiances of the game.
Skip Bayless be like: bUt cAn He AcTuallY hIt a tHrEe ?!
@kronmeicrumbs
3 жыл бұрын
I'm surprised he had time to critique Lillard. I thought he only had eyes for Bron.
@mrsialeipata8615
3 жыл бұрын
@@kronmeicrumbs he gotta find someone else for when bron retires
@frank26436364
3 жыл бұрын
Nur der svw
@schmonghonnes1682
3 жыл бұрын
@@frank26436364 ehre die werder Fans sind überall 💪🏽
It’s amazing to watch Dame’s game improve throughout the years. Especially since his rookie to now. Great vid
Favourite bball youtuber with a vid on my favourite player. Thankyou Ben!!!
@4:20 "Curry's perpetual off-ball gravity" is very well put. It is a sign of an MVP-level player that the threat of the havoc one is capable of creating is bigger than the actual damage that it may cause. Developing that may be the next step in Dame's game. Then he may reach closer peak-Curry status.
@t4d0W
3 жыл бұрын
An elite players' ability to command respect off ball is what makes them a potent ceiling raiser for their team in the playoffs.
GOAT nba analysis channel. Love the stuff you’ve been doing been a fan for a year now.
Can you make a video on the evolution of basketball defence and how much more skilled you have to be , to be a good defender in today's NBA
@michawirkus9030
3 жыл бұрын
this is great idea. boomers don't get it.
@jorgecueva9239
3 жыл бұрын
Completely agree
@siddharthgundala4285
3 жыл бұрын
@@michawirkus9030 exactly defense today is so unappreciated...what players like kawahi and Marcus smart do on tue defense end is so amazing considering the limitations
@Oppenheimer1967
3 жыл бұрын
Siddharth Gundala Kawhi is an all time great defender. Marcus smart no so much lol. There were a lot better perimeter defenders in the 90’s than Marcus Smart lol.
@jorgecueva9239
3 жыл бұрын
I think that what he means is that back in the day you could physically interfere more or just clothesline people and be considered an above average defender ( not saying all good defenders where like that) while today to be a good defender you can't play physical basketball so you have to have sharper response and a better game sense than in the 90s
Channels like these really ignite my passion to analyze basketball. Love the content
When everyone’s healthy, I only have Harden, Durant, and Curry clearly better than him offensively.
@aidanl3137
3 жыл бұрын
What about lebron? Passing is also an incredibly important component for an offensive engine
@momothunder9544
3 жыл бұрын
Curry not better no way curry a better shooter but daim more complete offensively
@navia810
3 жыл бұрын
@@momothunder9544 being the best shooter of all time isnt an understatement
@hockeytaperoom771
3 жыл бұрын
I think they’re on the same level right now, when Lillard is hot like this. LeBron doesn’t have the shooting for me to comfortably say he’s clearly better. But if Lillard regresses back to his mean, LeBron probably barely has the edge
@paulcervantes528
3 жыл бұрын
@@hockeytaperoom771 i completely agree
I already know this is going to be a great video
Great analysis! Dame has really taken his game to another level.
I’ve been waiting for this one!
nothing to say except i really love your videos. keep doing what you’re doing.
1:02 i felt that MMMM, i had to replay it 5 times, that was so damn smooth!
Top quality content again 🤝I think what we need next is some playoff Doncic& Mitchell analysis, if they proceed.
love this channel, best hoops content on youtube
You are becoming the best basketball KZreadr. Smart and educated videos. No bias. Just facts! Keep doing your great work.
@aidanl3137
3 жыл бұрын
David Tous. Always has been
Great in depth analysis. Dame is insane.
Best basketball channel on KZread. I love your videos
* sees that David Aldridge writes for The Athletic * *THANKS DA, GREAT INSIGHT!*
I 100% agree !! Dame is just different 💫
I was waiting for this
A video ab my fav player from my favorite Basketball channel?!?!? GOOOOOOOD MORNING
Watching clips with crowds is so jarring now. It's strange to think how quickly I've gotten used to the bubble environment as a viewer. Great video!!
I wish u posted more I love ur work
Everyone one of these videos is a gem
Would love to see an analysis of some legacy NBA stars.
Love this mans knowledge of the game.
You know what I love about the all the Curry talk with Dame? Curry's gonna come back looking for blood. We'll see him taking more deep threes to prove a point. Whether he'll be able to prove it at this age is a different story. But I sure hope he will
@Princeofknowelege
3 жыл бұрын
My only concern with Curry is he is getting older and injuries are starting to bother him again.
@precisism1804
3 жыл бұрын
I don’t see age being an issue unless injuries come into play. Steph’s game isn’t at at all predicated upon athleticism, and the age he’s at right now is around when many all-time greats peaked in terms of skill.
@kingdinodragonite3470
3 жыл бұрын
@@precisism1804 no but aside his shooting, his best offensive skillset to get buckets are finishes and drives. He's making 65% of them. Once he gets older, he might be a spot up shooter only because he can't drive past guys easily like he did in 2016 if he's older.
@stevenwhiters8928
3 жыл бұрын
Lol curry only shoots the deep threes when he gets hot curry actually normally gets slot of Easy shots because of his off ball movement. Then after he heats up he just hit everything. dame on the other hand start off jacking
@hyperactive9148
3 жыл бұрын
They like the same age bro I think curry only got a year or 2 on him
Fire vid
YES best b-ball analysis out there
In the modern NBA, you have to be A faster, More reactive thinker, to be a good defender. With players abilities to spread the floor; with 3 point shooting; you need a lot of eyes in the back of your head and great court vision and space awareness, to cover both the paint and get to the edge man as well. In the 80s and 90s The ERA I grew up watching, The 3 point shot was hardly a factor. It was all about the big man down low and the physical nature of the game. You had to be tough as nails and Solid as a rock to survive and do well in that ERA of NBA basketball. Cause if you could not bang with the big boys down low, you were not gonna contribute much on defense. Exceptions being Pesky Guards and wings like MJ Scottie Stocton etc. Who made it a habbit of stealing your lunch money so much you starved to death. So yes, To be a great defender in the modern NBA takes a much higher level of skill sets then the past NBA. They got these poor boys running around like chickens now don't they? thanks Stephen Curry!
And he has a perfect and (most) beautiful shooting form.
"Isnt too far off from peak Curry" ummm looks pretty damn far off to me.
@taterz4502
3 жыл бұрын
3%is that far
@rygesa
3 жыл бұрын
@@taterz4502 he said "9% better" but that dot is closer to 8.5%. Steph is at 13%. That's a big 4.5% difference. Nice try.
@taterz4502
3 жыл бұрын
Andreas Ryge nice try? i was confused and i like currying
@taterz4502
3 жыл бұрын
Andreas Ryge curry
@rygesa
3 жыл бұрын
@@taterz4502 oh sorry. I thought you were implying there isn't a big difference.
"His defense is another story for another day", he says, right before delving into his defense.
Can't wait for Ben's top 10 players of the season like he did last year, it might be surprises with Durant and Curry out
Banger
Why don`t you upload your podcast episodes on youtube?
How you gonna analyse him and not mention his 40inch vert, he's one of the most frequent dunkers of any pg literally ever.
i love the way you tell both his good and bad things about his game. Other KZreadrs just overrate him.
He really is a good ball handler as well I don’t think I have seen commit an egregious amount of turn overs. The little efficiencies can add up in a good way sometimes.
Gotta do a video on defensive player of the year
He's been balling i hope he get a chip this year for all the doubters
Lillard offensive game is my second favourite in the leauge after Curry Both are really enjoyable
Not a single mention of his incredible ability to take care of the ball? The man has a 126 ORTG on the season. That is INSANE
@Oppenheimer1967
3 жыл бұрын
8th seed
Do one of Duncan Robinson plz. I wanna see somebody talk about how amazing he’s been in his rookie season.
I cannot wait to see Lillard and Curry match up next season. Those two imo are the best guards in the league.
Great thumbnail
do an analysis on PG's playing so far
That looks like some weird alternate universe Dame Lillard in the thumbnail lol
The best basketball channel on KZread?
8:25 damn he got YEETED
kick out to the open shooter always seems to be Gary Trent Jr #underrated
3:45 That's crazy... everything after 2:45 seems unbelievable.
How is the screen at 2:02 legal with a base that wide?
I think the best way to defend this type of threat is with very physical guards. They will make crazy shots and there is not much you can do when they pull up, but that physicality will wear them down throughout a series. The best example of this would probably be the cavs in 2016, when they were relentlessly physical with the warriors, especially as it went on. Dame is tough, but even his shot will start to break down at some point when facing that sort of defense.
@Oppenheimer1967
3 жыл бұрын
Ask Jrue Holiday and Rondo :)
Great vid. I loved your old thumbnails. Please go back to that format.
Can you please do one for Lu Dort? Thank you.
nice
"Now there is the question of whether these are good shots."
IDK about that in many of the games in the bubble dame, sometimes guarded the best player on the other team and did pretty good. I feel like he is good at defense when the blazer really need him but he doesn't want to waste his energy
@Oppenheimer1967
3 жыл бұрын
He’s a minus defender.
Omg 16 Steph was something else 😳
I admit I busted out laughing when he said "tug on the D".
Imagine watching this 2 years on as Dame has just had the best offensive season of his career.
Can you do a video why freethrows are so hard?
Can we get a tatum vid soon? your vids are the best
Hey Thinking Basketball, it would be cool if you made a video on comparing dame with Steph curry, since many people are comparing him with Steph, and even saying that dame has surpassed Steph ( personally I don't believe that )
@qwikscopez6619
3 жыл бұрын
There isn't a man born from his mother that can shoot better than Stephen Curry
God damn, that was the sneakiest ad read I've ever seen.
It's always a good shot if it goes in:)
Elite shooting in a point guard opens up a lot
Watching this while watching lakers drop 80pts on 1st half
Conclusion: Lillard shines when Curry is out and not around to overshadow him
@hoodielexballard8102
3 жыл бұрын
Bruhhh 🤣 this man is great stop curry is a all time great we know there’s other players to “he’s a threat from the logo “
@jaychulo1936
3 жыл бұрын
Simple he just keeping the seat warm for curry 😎💯
@misaelintriago5434
3 жыл бұрын
@@hoodielexballard8102 I think people just get annoyed when someone other than curry gets the spotlight and they call it "disrespectful" lol. Like let him get all the attention right now 'cause once curry is back everyone is going to forget about Dame again
@hoodielexballard8102
3 жыл бұрын
Misael Intriago ye curry out rn curry is a better player then dame ye but dame puts up 60 and it goes under oh curry could’ve done that no doubt but this man underrated that’s all I’m trynaget curry fans to see
@Splackavellie85
3 жыл бұрын
Hoodie lex Ballard How is he overrated? If anything, he’s a bit overrated since the bubble. And could you try typing in normal English next time?
If the Blazers manage to upset the Lakers and the Rockets overcome the Thunder, we will get an interesting duel between the step back three and the logo shot in the second round
Who is better between Curry and Dame. I only trust you to determine who has a better range or the better 3 point shooter. Thank you
So with this defence theory I think Portland make big moves to help him Covington Giles Derick Jones help to make the Portland defence more power
Dame content? liked
lu dort defensive breakdown?
I always put him behind Kyrie and Westbrook on point guard rankings before but this year, he's clearly the best at his position.
@Oppenheimer1967
3 жыл бұрын
Westbrook is still better.
@imdbtruth
3 жыл бұрын
Luka is a PG, and Luka is the best at his position.
I agree what he is doing is incredible he's very Steph Curry-esque Steph Curry Lite if you will
Dame = killer
“Those hand offs tug on the d” bro cmon
I would like steph offensive analysis
wow
"The tug on the D" was great, ignore everyone who says it was bad
Yo thinking basketball how come you took down your kawhi leonard video?
@or1343
3 жыл бұрын
Which one
@offrow
3 жыл бұрын
@@or1343 he had an analysis video of him a long time ago
@offrow
3 жыл бұрын
@@Soosss i hope so
He's the new Clyde Drexler. Offensive powerhouse stuck in Portland. If he ever gets out of there he will get a ring.
8:26 we're just gonna ignore this insane block...
@marco5030
3 жыл бұрын
He's 7 foot tall and just runs and blocks, that takes no skill...
@panner11
3 жыл бұрын
It may have been ruled a goaltend
@jebinm4706
3 жыл бұрын
goaltend?
5:00 "draw out bigs and tug on the D" PAUSE
I need that old background music though man
@rafikz77
3 жыл бұрын
It’s in the video description
Bro what’s going on at 0:04 is just wtf 😂
Lillard and Young are the best players in the NBA, redefining the game to eliminate their weaknesses.
Nurk is the perfect teammate for Dame!
Look at dames eyebrows!
What is a good shot? One that you have a good chance of making, for Lillard these are good shots. Even if he only shoots 30% (He shoots over 42% from 30ft out, better than the rest of the league), it will still help create spacing for Blazers offense.
@Oppenheimer1967
3 жыл бұрын
Blazers and Dame are extremely overrated lol
Damien lillars deep range dead eye badge is gonna be HOF in 2k21