Dambe Boxing: Spear and Shield concept
Dambe boxing as it relates to spear and shield fighting as well as exploring its effectiveness in the larger context of unarmed combat.
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Dambe boxing as it relates to spear and shield fighting as well as exploring its effectiveness in the larger context of unarmed combat.
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Totally makes sense now. I was wondering why dambe boxing was so ‘uneconomical’ but from the perspective you show it is an efficient movement way of moving.
Good video Bro. Da'Mon. The addition of the kicks used in Dambe adds another potentially powerful dimension to this. One thing that I haven't explored, which I should, would be the augmentation of the traditional Dambe kicks with those from Ngolo (Capoeira's traditional form). The use of parrying in Dambe boxing seems to be somewhat exceeded by the use of evasive movements. Therein there may be a great deal of compatibility with Ngolo principles. It's also pretty obvious, based on the body mechanics, that Dambe's strikes also mirrors the striking angles for small blades--wrist knives, daggers, and so forth.
it is good that you keep your cultural traditions alive. important to understand the difference between time frames as well. what worked and how it worked ages ago verses now. I enjoy watching more traditional Japanese styles but I understand they were designed for an age past and people don't dress and fight that way anymore, so those technique, to remain relevant to modern fighting much change to adapt to life now. tech. designed to combat armored warriors wielding swords or other non used weapons will not be as effective. we don't fight off horse back and we don't fight with spears and shields anymore. your video was wonderful and it makes much more sense than watching a tough man contest were they only swing wildly their right hands at people doing the same while neither defend.
Excellent video. While there are tons of Dambe fight videos, yours is the only one I've found that actually attempts to analyze technique. I wish there were other videos like this for Dambe. Have you covered Laamb? I've watched several matches and would love to see an analysis of technique.
I recently started to box and i unknowingly started to box like this, So i am happy to see someone do the style properly so i could learn.
This is very similar to how classical Pugilism has similarities to sword and buckler . As a man who studies classical Pugilism I got a real love for Dambe
When I look at Dambe boxing, it remind me of how Jack Johnson boxes. When I compare the two side by side. Maybe Dambe boxes share in some relation to "Knocking & Kicking." If I can remember the Nigeria slaves were taken to the Virginia coast All the way down to the north and South Carolina coast even Georgia and Florida coats. And I believe most of them lived on the Gullah Island. Also there is a dance call the Charleston that uses a lot of set up like kicks.
@sulaak
4 жыл бұрын
But Dambe is a Hausa sport and majority of Hausa's slaves were trafficked to Brazil and called Male. Majority of Nigerian Slaves to Virginia were from Eastern and Southern Nigeria (Igbo's, Kalabari and Ijaws)
I saw a few videos of Dambe boxing ealier and this really makes sense of the system. Subscribed to lean more about African martial arts.
Interesting. I watched some dambe fights over at Dambe Warriors and noticed the wide, almost club-like swings. Made me wonder if the wraps were weighted or restrictive in some way, but it actually makes a lot of sense if the movements are derived from spear techniques.
Good bro you have african fighter ancestors in you keep going like that my brother
@DaMonStith
8 жыл бұрын
+mbara60 Thank you brother. I really appreciate it.
@lindasullivan90
7 жыл бұрын
Da'Mon Stith There are also kicks in dambe. I understand you said you weren't an expert but you should know that. Or maybe you just didn't have enough time to show them ?
@DaMonStith
7 жыл бұрын
Mommabare Su thank you. i know that there are kicks in dambe but this video was focused on how dambe boxing ia connected to spear ans shield fighting.
@lindasullivan90
7 жыл бұрын
Da'Mon Stith Oh okay! It would be cool if you one day made a video on dambe kicks. Because alot of people think its just one handed boxing when its more like one handed kickboxing.
@m0nkeyb0i72
6 жыл бұрын
Mommabare Su can you tell me what involved dambe? What is allowed? What style?
I saw a video by vice a long time ago about dambe. I just watched a video on youtube and it got me thinking about how it would hold up against our boxing techniques and other martial arts. Very interesting
This makes so much sense now. I’ve loved watching Dambe for a while now but never understood it’s origins. Thank you for sharing this!
Good to see someone givin African cultures some exposure. Keep it up
I'm researching this style for a novel I'm writing and I wanna say thanks so much. You gave so much useful information and I love how you used the spear and shield as a visual representation for how it carries over into the form
Hey, from first, I never knew that our people have fighting styles, but knowing this Dambe boxing style it's very interesting and I'm starting to learn more about it so thanks.
Good demonstration of the techniques, and good explanation of the connection between the empty handed and armed forms. Also, thanks for introducing me to Dambe boxing.
Very nice! I was wondering about the link between the two and you clarified it simply.
It's really interesting to me how you have a shield that's just slightly bigger than a buckler and yet with your lower underhand stance you are able to cover so much of your body from a potential opponent. I can't help but wonder how this added to a HEMA sword buckler style could almost replace a full sized round shield.
Beautiful video. Big like 👍🏾
Makes perfect sense. You illustrate the concepts well. Looking forward to trying it out in training.
👏👏👏 Brilliant demonstration. Thank you for your care and articulation. Fantastic, fantastic!
It may look a little weird, but it also looks like a couple of guys could beat the snot out of each other, too. I'd be interested in seeing this, in fact I'm going to search and see if I can find a match right now. Thanks for showing us this. It's pretty interesting.
@raykemet8114
7 жыл бұрын
what's so weird about it
@ChateauLonLon
3 жыл бұрын
@@raykemet8114 Speaking for myself, a complete novice to the world of combat sports, only familiar with more conventional and popular styles in the West and East - boxing, judo, muay thai, all that - this art feels very unlike most of most of what I've seen. I don't claim to know much, if anything, but I can certainly say I've never seen strikes like these. It's really interesting.
Very cool. You definitely seem like you know what your talking about. Good job on your presentation as well, your videos are very easy to understand and listen to.
Nice as always bro. Your a pioneer man ;)
@DaMonStith
8 жыл бұрын
+Siônmarc Simpson Thank you brother!
This is very informative. Don't stop making these videos!
This is awesome. Thank you for sharing. Super cool to know some of the concepts of this martial art and why it translates the way it does in combat. Good stuff.
Great video on a little know art
Hello. New subscriber here. Very much enjoyed this as ive been watching dambe for a while now. Nice break down. I liked the comment about the similarity of dambe to Jack Johnson' s boxing. I've seen a picture of Johnson holding an opponent's head while throwing the uppercut that was nearly identical to a still of a young dambe fighter doing the same thing. Growing up in Virginia I saw most brothers fight this way--lead hand parries and opens the path for the rear bomb. But I also saw some fight with a stance and tactic almost identical to Guadeloupe's game of "Bènedin" in which the lead hand loops to throw the big bomb. Have you seen Bènedin? What do you think of this game?
I love this, definitely following!
Dambe and la lutte needs to be combined together in a school, these arts have a nice balance to create a realistic and effective warrior, for UFC even.
@temujin5743
2 жыл бұрын
I know that you meaned senegalese wrestling with la lutte, but la lutte means wrestling in french, and it can be confusing if you would call only senegalese wrestling lutte
How did it feel to do this publicly?
Very interesting and nice art definitely could learn a lot of useful stuff from it!
@DaMonStith
8 жыл бұрын
+Roger Debitto Thank you for the compliment. We will be posting some more videos soon. Thank you for checking us out.
can you tell me if there are any books on African military systems of the precolonial era all so if you know how these people lived what they be leaved in and things on that level i am making a comic about 3 or4 of that african kingdoms and the more i know the better
Thank you sir very good explanation.
@DaMonStith
6 жыл бұрын
dounga99 thank you
This would be valuable against a fighter who corners you alot from constant pressure
I like that brother keep up the good work
@DaMonStith
6 жыл бұрын
sidneylewis christ Thank you brother. I appreciate your comment. If you are interested in training with us we are located in Austin, Texas and we have a distance learning if you are interested.
Very interesting!
@DaMonStith
8 жыл бұрын
+Sir Caco D. Mon Thank you.
Same situation as before the Hausa people would the same large rectangular shields as the Tuareg but because materials and time i had demo with what i had. The isn't about Hausa spear and shield per se but a look at Hausa boxing and how its movements relate tov spear and shield fighting. In Hausa boxing the defensive hand is opened and referred to as the shield and attacking its bound and called the spear thus the movements are supposed to be descended from spear and shield.
@nicolasgodines1129
6 жыл бұрын
Have you ever tried Polynesian martial arts? I feel like you would find them interesting. I'm a Native Hawaiian living in Hawai'i and it would really make me and probably other Hawaiians happy to have our traditional martial art, Lua, be featured in a video by a mainland channel.
Great video man, very informative. One question though, surely if you're primarily striking from the right, wouldn't your opponent just learn to put his defense on that side?
Peace Brother, keep it up. D.M.M.
great!
Some good foot work mate. Do you think Dembe boxing is just another way to practice spear and shield, onj;y a lot safer?
I noticed a very close similarity with European renaissance bare knuckle boxing techniques and savate stances with your style. It's quite interesting how most styles have such similarities yet remain unique in their own aspect. I have still seen the problem though with parrying a simple jab + straight combo with only one hand up and one hand down. Everyone I know who trains in savate and bare knuckle boxing complains about this. Have you encountered this problem and how did you solve it?
@raykemet8114
7 жыл бұрын
many martial arts are simliar to each other simply because it only so many ways you can move your arm, leg, etc when you only got well two arms and two legs. it all boils down to human anatomy.
This is briliant :)
@DaMonStith
6 жыл бұрын
Smartatak Smartatak Thank you. I am glad that you liked the video.
What are some possible solo drills for this?
i am so glad i found your channel. I appriciate being able to see african martial arts. if the stick and shield arts were used for the empty hand wouldnt the rear hand be higher though, much higher, like the rear hand in zulu impi. i feel it would provide a much more loose composition and advanced applicatory affect.
@DaMonStith
7 жыл бұрын
laine white welcome to my channel and thank you for your question. in this case I am comparing shield and spear position in relations to dambe boxing were the lead hand is called the shield and the bound represents the spear. I found some interesting correlation between the two.
@lainewhite341
7 жыл бұрын
yeah my bad i was going to put that comment on the egyptian boxing one but couldn't find the video haha. i would imagine the same answer applies. Thank You.
What about combining Dambe with Ngolo and principles from Zulu Stick fighting and Tahtib.
nice
Any pict or vid that shows real shield and spear that used in this technique?
@DaMonStith
5 жыл бұрын
rahman massewwa email me at austinwarriorarts@gmail.com
hes got a really interesting video on eyptian boxing
Spear soldiers combine with large kite shields instead of small rounded shields, in my opinion.
Reminds me of sticky palm in Chinese Martial arts
@DaMonStith
8 жыл бұрын
+Bob MiLaplace Interesting comparison. Thank you for stopping by.
@bobmilaplace3816
8 жыл бұрын
Da'Mon Stith Its cool I think it makes sense since Dambe as in the video is a dueling art.
I like, I like
@DaMonStith
8 жыл бұрын
+howard33072 Welcome and thank you visiting our page. Test cuts with the mambele coming soon!
From what I have seen they swing it (the spear-hand) naturally than just 'striking'. It's different.
@DaMonStith
3 жыл бұрын
If we're comparing my movements to theirs then there's a big difference considering that I have different movement influences that are one based on my culture and two based on my purpose of doing these movements. For one I am very purposefully looking at these techniques and their correlation to shield and spear and then taking it completely out of it's traditional combat sport context. That's enough to make the differences very pronounced. Now I also think that the term swing naturally over simplify what they are doing and implies that there's little thought or strategy to their fight. I could be completely off base.
I´ts very interesting what you explain on these video. I noted that some positions that you show here, I seen in egiptian and greek pics of boxers; bouth cultures used shield and spear. I´ts only a theory but boxing may have an African origin, in dambe or similar sport, and spread as a way to train for war, because train with a spear is more dangerous than bare handed, plus is unexpensive.If you see in a famous picture of mycenaean boys boxing, they uses globes, but in one hand only, and they are kids. warriors training for future shield and spear fighting? what is your opinion?
@juanmanuelcoria79
7 жыл бұрын
And may be older. In these period was a popular sport in other places also, like Babilon, and mediterranean world. I gues that may be a tribal sport in sub saarian Africa much earlier.
I wish they'd bring a league to the U.S., but I also know that they'd water it down. Probably pads and headgear, lol
It can be use in MMA (Mix.Martial.Art) but weak against Muay Thai. First Boxing Karate. And other.
@tyronechillifoot5573
2 жыл бұрын
It would probably just look like Kick boxing
Would this really be effective in fighting though? Would this work in an MMA match??
@Speedofdark339
3 ай бұрын
Depends on the type of dambe fighter Some are bouncy and light on their feet
The ancient Minoans in Europe had a similar style with one hand wrapped. Could of got it from Africans. www.google.com/search?q=minoan+boxer&tbm=isch&source=iu&ictx=1&fir=jMuMUBXJWspOmM%253A%252C0KpUE8ymUggbFM%252C_&usg=__0rVJVI41wKzhQqft0y7mpSJ2DNo%3D&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwig5o38yqjaAhUn4IMKHZ4EBP0Q9QEIOTAH#imgrc=gILWwPTJqCsLoM:
this is not new to African American fighters. Look at fighters from Jack johnson to Larry Holmes. look at the position of their feet and you will see. although the lead is used to extend the reach of the fighters jab these days it is the same art in a different arena. Look at Thomas Hearns and its evident.
@DaMonStith
8 жыл бұрын
Great observation. Thank you noting that parallel.
senegalese lutte is better in my opinion but dambe is more entertaining for sure