Pam would never have left Christopher, made zero sense to end things this way.

@supremlyfoxylass

11 ай бұрын

Agreed. She never would have left Christopher.. disappointed in the writing..

@janicedelorenzo4924

10 ай бұрын

Because it is only a show,that's why it was done that way

@userfridaywiggly18943

10 ай бұрын

Agreed , the writers really mucked this up ! Out of character for Pam ! I would’ve rather she just vanish than to bring her back like this !

@erickamccarroll9574

9 ай бұрын

Fr

@erickamccarroll9574

9 ай бұрын

They should’ve just left her dead, her character Victoria Principal left the show and her death ending was perfect. Now they’re just twisting things up, the new Dallas and the last 2 or 3 seasons were horrible.

This was a crazy story line. Pam not returning to see her son ? Sounded more like she was in a witness protection program or something.

Despite the notion that Pam would leave her only child, which was absurd, this scene is sad. Even cliff didn’t deserve this. The show definitely lost something when Victoria left

@MrCraigblaze

6 жыл бұрын

Well she dis tell that show to "kill" of Pam...I think that Margret Michael's would have been a GREAT Re cast ..But after the season 7 ..Recast of Miss Elle ..Disaster..I think the show Just stayed away from the recasting,,!!..XD

@MrCraigblaze

6 жыл бұрын

Yes she did..From 1989-90 As the Pam lookalike..Margaret Michael's got the part do to Patrick Duffy's help..Margaret was also on The Daytime soap as well.. Santa Barbara in the 80s..As well as Leigh j McClousky.. I still to this day Wonder why Bobby picked April over her..??..XD.I would be a fly on the wall back in October of 88 If Victoria Watched this episode and said "What"??..XD

@MMAfighter38113

6 жыл бұрын

MrCraigblaze I would’ve recast her as Pam too. It would not have set well with many loyal viewers, but the Pam character was as substantial to the show as Sue Ellen and Ms Ellie were. It would’ve been better than killing her off.

@seand2711

5 жыл бұрын

@@MMAfighter38113 I agree they should have recast Pam with Margaret. She even had Victoria's mannerisms and speech nailed. Would have been a believable replacement after a fiery cash crash.

@aph1976

4 жыл бұрын

I agree that Pam never would have left her son especially after what she went though with her own mother under normal circumstances but those weren't exactly normal circumstances.She probably wasn't in her right frame of mind after the car accident and maybe by the time she did get her head straight she may have thought Christopher was better without her and maybe she even thought Christopher hated her for leaving him which might have been believable.

They should have replaced Victoria Principal with Margaret Michaels permanently. Not only does Michaels bear a strong resemblance to principal, but she did an excellent job in the role. I was really hoping that Jeanne O’Brien was going to end up to be Pam. The show was never the same after Pam left. She would never have left Bobby and Christopher simply because she was scarred.

@GeorgeCarlinWasAGod

Жыл бұрын

Well that is the world of "Hollywood" for ya.

@darrinbaker00

Жыл бұрын

After the Donna Reed fiasco, there was no way the producers were going to recast another major character.

@swolfe9668

Жыл бұрын

The head honchos of Dallas had a huge beef with Victoria and trying to get her to stay, when she left on her terms they decided to do away with the Pam character

@jazmorrison9030

Жыл бұрын

@@darrinbaker00they did with John Ross and Christopher

@darrinbaker00

Жыл бұрын

@@jazmorrison9030 You obviously missed the "major character" part of my post.

I was moved by Cliff. He really loved his sister with all his heart, a love that someone like Bobby could never understand. He was vulnerable, that was plain enough to see. How terrible for him! Really felt for him here.

@rolltide9547

Жыл бұрын

She was not his sister.

@MyFreddy68

Жыл бұрын

@@rolltide9547 Yes, she was!

@rolltide9547

Жыл бұрын

@@MyFreddy68 Wrong they had different fathers how are they full brother and sister. She is his 1/2 sister not sister.

@randalcook325

Жыл бұрын

While I always disliked Cliff so much, and loved it when JR knocked him down to the dirt, this scene was so devastating for him. I did feel bad for Cliff. He truly loved his sister. Her decision to not go back to Dallas and to not tell Bobby, Christopher and Cliff that she only had weeks to live was a hard and very personal decision for Pam. But I think it was only hers to make.

@gildan958

6 ай бұрын

​@@rolltide9547ils ont êtes élevés ensemble

I hated the way Victoria Principal ended the show. Pam, never would have abandoned Christopher. This is a very touching scene and you can see how deeply moved Cliff was.

@jazmorrison9030

Жыл бұрын

She retired from acting

@PungiFungi

Жыл бұрын

Yes, when Linda Gray announced she was leaving, she made sure that Sue Ellen left with a bang with her head high. Principal should've at least done the same thing, or hung around long enough so Pam can get a send off that she deserved, like founding Mark Graison again, actually had a baby and decided to leave Southfork to live in peace...ANYTHING but THIS.

@charleshendren3961

Жыл бұрын

In the new Dallas it was discovered that the reason Pam didn’t go back was because she found out she had pancreatic cancer and didn’t want her family to go through losing her again. It was found out that she died just a few months after this.

@walterschivo9123

Жыл бұрын

It is terrible, but at the same time, Victoria was experiencing a lot of back problems and it was hard for her to act. It's never easy to write off somebody from a show like that.

This whole scene was ridiculous! I was not exactly a Cliff Barnes fan, but not even he deserved this. This was way too much. And I think this show was wrong for killing off Victoria Prinicpal? Pam just told him he was not coming back, she was divorcing Bobby and leaving her child behind. That's not the Pam i know or anybody else knows.

@statman99

5 жыл бұрын

Victoria Principal LEFT the show to pursue other things. THEY didn't kill her off, SHE killed her off.

@MrCraigblaze

5 жыл бұрын

She did tell the show to kill Pam off ..True. We should thank the show that we got on more year of Pam..!!..XD

@maineindividual5202

3 жыл бұрын

@xxHistoricallyHauntedxx possibly yes. But as popular as principal was it may not have worked. I don't agree with them killing her off either. Nor did I agree with Bobby being killed off. Never kill legacy characters off. Ever. It shouldn't be the actors decisions at all what happens to thier characters

@GeorgeCarlinWasAGod

Жыл бұрын

Well sometimes people change. Especially after a traumatizing event. I know from my own personal experience there are things I normally would not have done before I lost my spouse which completely traumatized and broke me. I know I am no longer the same person I once was before the death of my own spouse. Plus I no longer have the same beliefs and outlooks on life that I once had.

As an older brother, with a younger sister, my heart breaks for Cliff.

A bad ending for VP. DALLAS was empty after her decision to leave the show. In my option DALLAS was all about Bobby Pam J. R and Sue Ellen.

@donaldcrabbe7404

2 жыл бұрын

The series' original premise centred on Bobby and, Pamela. J.R. was meant to be peripheral; we, all, know what occurred.

@jwatwater

2 жыл бұрын

100%

@helderbento7991

3 ай бұрын

​@@donaldcrabbe7404The series revolved around Bobby and JR and their dispute over Ewing Oil. Everyone else were prop stage

Sadly she only had 3-4 months left to live. Boy was she ice cold to Cliff. Odd scene

@jazmorrison9030

Жыл бұрын

Cliff would give her money for years with out telling nobody

@gdquint

Ай бұрын

​@@jazmorrison9030Actually, I remember Pam offering to buy Cliff's share of Ewing Oil for $200 million while it was still in litigation. All three siblings were set for life after Rebecca Wentworth died.

Even though Victoria Principal was missed, I could have accepted Margaret Michaels. She had enough physical resemblance. It is too bad Jeanne O'Brien did not turn out to be her.

@dancastro6873

3 жыл бұрын

That would've been awesome

The problem I had with Pam's exit storyline was it was so out of character for Pam. Pam leaves town and files for divorce and Bobby never once questioned it or tried to track her down to talk to her face to face. He just accepted it and said to the family, "we'll never talk about Pam again" and moved on with his life.

@Emmenem68

3 жыл бұрын

Exactly, this was beyond ridiculous. As if Bobby wouldn't investigate the disappearance of the love of his life any further and sign the divorce papers just like that. Didn't he care what happened to her. She could have been kidnapped by Katherine or anyone else for that matter.

@karenconnor6682

3 жыл бұрын

And also Cliff didn’t fight her decision - that simply isn’t Cliff. He’s like a dog with a bone when there is something he wants... and he just gave up... so sad 😭 I wish this actress had taken on the role x

@salt27dogg

2 жыл бұрын

@@karenconnor6682 And I especially didn’t like how they brought this actress Margaret Michaels to play a Pam look a like to put closure . I wished Victoria P came back for a cameo in 2012 series not even to see Bobby but to see Christopher . It would’ve been great . She almost accepted but didn’t at the last moment to come to the new show

@blackmountains6645

2 жыл бұрын

@@salt27dogg That would have been brilliant! Even as a ghost or a dream.

@GeorgeCarlinWasAGod

Жыл бұрын

@@Emmenem68 You and many others are reading way too much into this. It is Hollywood for crying out loud. It is not uncommon for a lot of story lines in a lot of TV Shows to make no sense sometimes.

This was the dumbest storyline--why not just RECAST Pam?! After being abandoned by her own mother and her struggle to have a child, and finally having Christopher, there’s no way Pam would desert her son and her brother.

@shacks29

2 жыл бұрын

They tried several times to get Victoria back but she refuses to return....even after that scene they didnt show Pam die they had still the hope that at some point Victoria would return thats why they never recast.

@jwatwater

2 жыл бұрын

@@shacks29 Man, all they wouldve had to do was just get rid of the "new" Pam. They should have consulted the people at Dynasty.

@shacks29

2 жыл бұрын

@@jwatwater This would have been a rude move ...cant remember when they did this on Dynasty?

@jwatwater

2 жыл бұрын

@@shacks29 Fallon, Steven, and Amanda were all re-cast in Dynasty cause the actors left the show. Rude, but so was Victoria leaving.

@shacks29

2 жыл бұрын

@@jwatwater Fallon and Steven were not a direct re-cast took Seasons to bring them back and for Amanda the Actress got fired its not the same as hiring a replacement and then fire it again if the OG actor changed their minds...thats a Dallas thing (Miss Ellie) lol

Pam would have never been that cold blooded but after Linda grey departed the show went down hill...

@GeorgeCarlinWasAGod

Жыл бұрын

You don't know that for certain. People do change sometimes. Especially after a traumatizing event.

Losing Victoria Principal was clearly what began to truly break _Dallas_ however if producers had been smart, they would've kept Margaret Michaels on as Pamela. Yes, she matched the look Principal had, and they could have continued on with the plastic surgery storyline, and that the trauma of the experience changed Pamela in ways that made her harder. Instead, they did what they did and it was just bad.

@maineindividual5202

4 жыл бұрын

Don't think anyone could replace Principal . Not long term anyhow

@DegrassiInstantStar

4 жыл бұрын

@@maineindividual5202 We'll never know, because they never tried. Knowing Michaels' acting, I do believe she could've done a good job as re-adjusting the character of Pam.

@mrbigfan4182

3 жыл бұрын

@@maineindividual5202 NEVER!

@hotgritz4sho

3 жыл бұрын

I think they definitely could’ve shaken things up a bit if the producers kept this actress as the long-term re-cast because there was still so much story to tell. It was rough loosing Pam and more importantly Victoria Principal, but apparently she was ready to move on. I wonder if more money and a better storyline would’ve changed her mind..?

@dancastro6873

3 жыл бұрын

@@maineindividual5202 Tanya Roberts would've been a good choice

The fact that she kept wanting a child and willfully ditched her son makes zero sense.

@fayewitt9881

Жыл бұрын

I agree! Pam wanted a child so badly so how can she just willingly leave that child that she wanted so badly I mean it makes no sense and another I thought made no sense is why have her go to the doctor and find out she can carry a baby till term just to have her get into that accident which eventually caused her to leave that child that she had, the only child she had in the first place I mean it makes no sense at all none of it does but I think the show was going down the tubes ever sense Patrick Duffy left and then the way they brought him back and it just kept going down hill from there ever sense. I think the show was about at an end before it actually ended I actually surprised it lased as long as it did.

@GeorgeCarlinWasAGod

Жыл бұрын

It's a fictional TV Show. Not reality.

You were wrong, Pam. Christopher never got over being abandoned by his mother.

@hotgritz4sho

3 жыл бұрын

We learned that sad truth in the “Dallas” reboot which delved even further in the storyline and sadly Christopher “died” in a fiery car explosion too.

@maineindividual5202

3 жыл бұрын

@@hotgritz4sho although I didn't agree with Christopher being killed off it was a great nod to his mother's exit

@GeorgeCarlinWasAGod

Жыл бұрын

@@hotgritz4sho The 2012 Dallas was a continuation of the original series. It was NOT a reboot. If it had been a reboot all of the original characters (actresses and actors) would have been recast. Plus a reboot is when they completely give a Classic TV Show a whole new start from the beginning.

after the Donna Reed/Miss Ellie debacle - quickly followed by the Wes Parmalee nonsense - producers were wary about how to deal with the Pam resolution - and made a complete mess of it.

Cliff was very emtional he really loved his sister very moving

THIS IS WHEN DALLAS HAD STARTED TO LOSE IT'S TOUCH.....

@deesee3622

4 жыл бұрын

it died here as far as I'm concerned! pam and Bobby were so beautiful, now we're stuck with psycho JR and dumb sue Ellen and all the other riff raff

@batdude811

4 жыл бұрын

@@deesee3622 the TNT series was worse with JR's death and what followed thereafter.

@sheiladavis6523

4 жыл бұрын

@@deesee3622 That was another fun , interesting & exciting time of Dallas also like🎇WOW 🎆 👏 👏 for J.R. & Sue Ellen ☺ - ☺April 11 ,2020

Happy 40th anniversary DALLAS

@MrCraigblaze

6 жыл бұрын

Yes 40 Years ago ..April2,1978..!!..XD

@GeorgeCarlinWasAGod

Жыл бұрын

@@MrCraigblaze Stop using stupid text language such as "XD" I find it very annoying. It is also a constant reminder of why I hate texting and text messages.

This scene was totally unrealistic of Pam. The producers were obviously in a jam and avoided killing Pam off instantly to leave the door open for VP to return especially after Bobby's death dream. But VP wanted a clean break and had no intention of returning which left producers with a real headache as Pam would never abandon her family. Hence they cooked up this terrible twist. VP was way too iconic to re cast Pam . I dont think viewers would have taken to MM or anyone else in the role.

The show went downhill after this. I never understood why they didn't just get this lady to play Pam. She looked enough like her, voice was close, the story line was set up for her to have a new face, why not? They didn't give a damn about recasting on Dynasty, it worked (mostly).

@mainlymusicman

Жыл бұрын

i cant see any other face being pam

@ncjuppiter9595

2 ай бұрын

The only Dynasty recast that wasn’t a total disaster was Steven, and some people didn’t even accept that. The recast Fallon and Amanda were awful.

A. Pam would never let her family think that she has abandoned them to save them from the pain of her dying. She’s smart enough to know that it would be healthier for her child to lose her through death than through abandonment. B. Cliff is smart enough to know that something is up here. Even if you accept the premise that Pam has fallen in love with her doctor, he knows that Pamela would NEVER abandon her son (especially since their own mother abandoned them). And he would at least say, “OK - so you’re not coming back to Dallas. Why does this mean that our relationship is over? Tell me what’s really going on.”

@GeorgeCarlinWasAGod

Жыл бұрын

it's called "Fictional Writing". Not the real way life actually works.

@jaredjlinden

Жыл бұрын

It’s called “Bad Fictional Writing.” “Good Fictional Writing” is also often not the way life actually works, but isn’t so unbelievable that you have a whole thread full of people questioning it.

@PungiFungi

Жыл бұрын

@@jaredjlinden that’s the difference between a story that is plot driven and one that is character driven. If the story was written with what the characters would do based on what is already established in regards to their personalities, Pam would never just leave.

@fayewitt9881

Жыл бұрын

I can't believe that Cliff just let it go at that without really no exception like why are you doing this? How can you just abandon your own child, a child you yourself clamed you wanted so bad and especially how can you with all heart abandon your own child when you yourself knows what that's like? What's really going on? I think Pam at least owed Cliff that much sense she planed on casting him and the rest of her family especially the child she calmed to love and wanted so badly out of the remainder of her life I mean Pam just made no sense, you would think because she's dying she'd want to be with her family for the remainder of the time she's got left not want to be away from them but then the Pam character never made any sense, it never made any sense to me why she kept leaving Bobby whenever things got too tough for Pam to handle and a lot of times it had to do with J.R. trying to break the two of them up but by running off all she was doing was letting him win and the time when her half-sister came into the picture by leaving Bobby then all she was doing was setting herself up to lose Bobby forever to her half-sister. I mean Yes! She's had problems, she was abandoned by her mother when she was a child, we all have of some sort but we all don't go leaving our husbands when things get too tough to handle but I don't know maybe her accident was a good thing to have happened cause it got Little Miss Runaway When Things Get Too Tough To Handle Pam out of Bobby's life for good now he can get somebody else that wouldn't do that shit to him every time you turn around I mean maybe if the accident had never happened, maybe things would have been different I mean who's really to say, they had been through a lot together this time I mean they didn't have just J.R. to deal with this last time but also Pam's half-sister Katherine who was trying to get her mits onto Bobby I mean it's different when they have had just J.R. to deal with but this last time when they were broke up it wasn't just J.R. that was in on braking them up but also one other person, Katherine.

Glad to see this storyline carry over to Dallas 2012

Fake Pam looks like real one.

@salt27dogg

3 жыл бұрын

They should’ve brought Margaret Michaels for a cameo with Christopher in the new Dallas

@TheEwing69

3 жыл бұрын

Very similar, it would have been a very believable recast. The final 3 seasons would have been MUCH better, with this Pam

I'll never understand why Dallas couldn't have cast Margaret Michaels as Pam..Slight difference but after a crash like that, it would have been better story..

@greggbarnette5316

3 жыл бұрын

i agree 1000 percent... VP is Pam Ewing...but they should have a given a replacement a try ..and plus at this point souring viewers anymore would have not been too risky. (a lot viewers were disgruntled and stopped watching after the entire 85-86 season was written off as Bobbys dream) ..the ratings had already dropped the previous season (86-87) because of this as well ...

@mrbigfan4182

3 жыл бұрын

@@greggbarnette5316 They made two attempts with this actress but the fans were rooting more for Bobby to move on than a recast and April was the choice. No way could anyone else have played Pam!

@hotgritz4sho

3 жыл бұрын

Mr Bigfan April could never replace Pam and fans are fickle. They should’ve stick with the recast and paired her with new characters. Built a whole new storyline with Bobby on the fringes looking in, developing her relationship with Christopher.

Deep down, Pam was actually very selfish. Whatever anyone says, she always put her own wants before Bobby's and Christopher's. I get why she didn't want to return to Southfork but they deserved to know the truth.

Dallas went through and portrayed every facet of the human experience!

how Pam's character ended was stupid. Pam may have felt it was for the best but Her son never got over being abandoned

And then this actress returned as a Pam lookalike in a later season.

@maineindividual5202

4 жыл бұрын

Didn't she play a realtor Bobby looked at houses with?

@drlee2

4 жыл бұрын

@@maineindividual5202 Yes, that's the same character. Bobby saw her in public while he was having dinner with Phyllis one evening, then did some digging, found out she was a realty agent, then tracked her down and uses the buying houses thing as an excuse to meet her.

@mrbigfan4182

3 жыл бұрын

@@drlee2 I recently heard the plan was to see if the fans would go for a recast or prefer Bobby move on, which was why they brought her on a second time. They had anticipated Season 13 being the last so the attempt was to have Bobby living happily ever after and there was more of a chemistry with him and April; a chemistry he didn't have with Jean or Kay or Tracy! Also, when the lookalike came on in Season 13, how does Cliff not reference anything about seeing her the previous season. Did they forget he went down to see her?

@PungiFungi

Жыл бұрын

@@mrbigfan4182 Sheree Wilson was the best actress they brought on board for the later years, she is like a chameleon; she shared chemistry with every male actor on the show.

Do we have these scenes from the HD remaster, possibly?

Pam would not of wanted to lose bobby again or give up christopher

@aph1976

4 жыл бұрын

Under normal circumstances Pam never would have left Bobby or Christopher but it wasn't exactly normal circumstances because she may not have been thinking straight after the car accident.Plus after learning she had cancer she may not have wanted them to watch her die and grieve for her all over again.

Daaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaamn this is sad.

I think Cliff really wanted to cry when Pam told to forget he ever had a sister and to live his own life he wanted for her come back home with him.

In a way this scene rings true. Pam always had the flight or fight response when it came to hardship in her life. Remember when she threatened to kill herself when she couldn’t have a baby by standing on a ledge? Plus Pam and Bobby’s relationship was always plagued by pride and misunderstandings, specifically their divorce and then this their biggest obstacle. I can buy in a way Pam not wanting to be seen while recovering from a massive fireball (kind of dumb they didn’t kill her off in 1987 but they left the door open for her to return, if you’ve seen that tanker scene no one could survive that), and wanting to heal and do it on your own, but Bobby’s pride and stupidity was too much surrounding all this. He never once thought of looking for her, a woman pumped up on all kinds of pain drugs, and further traumatized by being disfigured and having no one around to support her (Pam’s choice but still), clearly not in her right mind. As far as recasting her, two words. Donna Reed. The producers didn’t want to go through this again. They always hoped Victoria would come back. But there are ways to get around this, specifically in the TNT version. Pam is alive and well and lives off screen. But then that would satisfy me, other viewers would want to see her. I don’t think we will ever see Dallas again in our lifetimes, but the only way to lay the where’s Pam question to rest, with no more expectation, was to kill her off.

@worldsokayestflightattendant

Жыл бұрын

I also always thought that, thier is no way anyone could survive the truck tanker explosion My gosh the damn thing blew up.

@Dennisanyone-

Жыл бұрын

@@worldsokayestflightattendant agreed lol. Dallas really got stupider starting when they wrote off an entire season as a dream. Even if she survived the initial impact, it would’ve taken minimum 10 or 15 minutes for paramedics and an ambulance to get there. She wouldve been severely burned and in horrible shape, or most likely dead. Much worse then what happened. Look what happened to Anne Heche and she still ended up dying. But they wanted a good cliffhanger out of it, that’s what they got. Divorcing Bobby and leaving town would’ve been the smart move. Victoria disliked the writing after her first five years. I’m sure she was relieved to get the hell out of there. But they really disrespected the character with all this nonsense.

Can u improve the volume? I can't hear it very well.

I think Dr Gordon had diagnosed Pam with cancer here.

@dancastro6873

3 жыл бұрын

I think so too

@TheEwing69

3 жыл бұрын

He did, she had pancreatic cancer, she died 9 months after this scene, in June 1989. Explained in TNTs reboot.

Dang. Why couldn't this actress have taken on the roll for Pam and kept her character on as a regular. Hmmm.

So who is this actress?

@stephenalanmoore7278

2 ай бұрын

Margaret Michaels.

Wish they would have add CC in English so it could be understood by those of us that are hearing impaired. PLEASE ADD CC in English

@mainlymusicman

Жыл бұрын

whats the point of even watching tv if you cant hear?

So unlike Pam so unrealistic of Pam to leave Bobby and her long awaited son. This is when the show went down.

although maybe a better pam replacement,than say donna reed was for miss ellie. I think margaret michaels would have suffered "your not victoria principal" syndrome if she had taken on the role full time. she does have a striking resemblance,but fans simply not wanting pam to die wouldnt have been enough in the end and she would have ended up like donna reed

@HunterBidenCocaineBag

5 жыл бұрын

But Margaret Michaels was great on the daytime soap "Santa Barbara" when she played Santana Andrade!

@dancastro4732

5 жыл бұрын

Plus she was on an episode of Charlie's Angels in season 4

Was this during the time Victoria Principal as experiencing back pains and wound up leaving the show altogether?

What a cold hearted move on her part. Cliff, Bobby and Christopher deserved better.

Why couldn't they hire this actor to replace Victoria on a full time basis while they work on a better exit for the character if they didn't wanna keep Pam anymore?

She sounds like she is in pain when she talks!

@dancastro6873

3 жыл бұрын

Pam was badly burned and her larnyx suffered considerable smoke damage

Was this doctor the same doctor that played on bold & the beautiful a few years later in the Angela & Stephanie story line back in 1989?

@travisjames3517

5 ай бұрын

Yes.

Really bad exit - we should have seen Pam pass when she was in the automobile crash . The producers should have known nobody but Victoria could play that role . and then to hint that Pam was alive for the DALLAS reboot ... ugh

How can she leave her son.

Pam was dying of cancer. But, she took the coward's out.

They wanted Principal to come back to the latest reincarnation of the series, but she just drop dead refused no matter how much money they offered her. I have to hand it to her . . the story was over and she thought it was ridiculous. Of all the flying off the wall hippocracy in Dallas; "Pamela Ewing's" was so profound and outrageous; I hated her the same way people hated JR. Maybe the show would have worked if she came back.

Ken doesn't get the credit he's due!

They should have Brought Margaret Michaels back as Pam Ewing .They ended up bringing her back as Jeanie O'brien anyways

They should've killed off Pam in the 1st episode of the 11th season

Frankly, as a young child, I didn’t think Pam survived the crash. I think that after the controversy of the “dream season”, I think Dallas opted to not kill her off, in case Victoria made the decision to to return, as Patrick had. It just prompted this to be such a bizarre storyline. Which was unnecessary, and too similar to what you’d expect from some daytime soap opera.

Sherri J Wilson was so beautiful back then

I think Cliff actually tracked Pam down in Houston after her accident not Canada. 2:44

this was the moment I quit watching Dallas.

She's the Great Value Victoria Principal

If you look at Pam's face at 3:40 you can still see some of the burn scars on her face

@Peteerh

6 жыл бұрын

Yes, many of burn scars are already seen in her face. Unfortunately this was a terrible accident, and that's a miracle that even her survived this explosion and third degree burns. But I think too that the cast could recast Pam's character by Margaret Michaels to the end of the series.

@Peteerh

6 жыл бұрын

Also, I can't even imagine what went through in her mind when she first saw her face after the doctors remove the bandage from her. That could be terrible sight for her :(

@Feisenbach

4 жыл бұрын

@@Peteerh Nothing went through her mind. Pamela Ewing is fictional.

@mrbigfan4182

3 жыл бұрын

@@Peteerh they tried to see if that would work and it didn't. Overall the fans were not happy with a possible recast and preferred to see Bobby move on. I for one rooted for him and April within the first few episodes of season 11.

if Pamela was really disfigured then I can understand why she left. She did not want Christopher to be afraid her and she would have felt, it's unfair for Bobby to be married to a disfigured woman. They should have kept it that.If they had wanted to bring her back, they should have brought her back as a disfigured woman having given birth to Bobby's baby or something.It makes no sense for Victoria Principal or any other to come back as Pam, looking like nothing happened to her face because there's no way Pam can justify why she left. So they made her sick and dying. Still made no sense why she left.

Margaret Michaels who played this Pam, also played Pam lookalike Jean the estate agent who Bobby had a fascination with.

Thought Margaret played pam part brilliantly and ken brilliantly as usual good acting

I love how on all these soap operas the character has a disfiguring accident; where they have plastic surgery...And then they have a new actor playing the role

i dont know if i can continue watching dallas after this... is it even worth finishing without pam?..

Yes they show have recast Pam with her

She was blessed to be alive

@dancastro6873

3 жыл бұрын

Agreed since 60% of her body suffered 3rd degree burns

@GeorgeCarlinWasAGod

Жыл бұрын

Yeah like this life is so great. Maybe for you and you along with others do not speak for people like myself. It truly amazes me how so many people are afraid of death. For some people living is suffering. Death brings peace for those who have suffered horribly in this lifetime.

This absurd story still could have a happy ending with VP playing Pam one more time. I actually heard a VP interview where she said she would have come back for the series finale if Leonard Katzman would have guaranteed her that it was indeed the last episode of the series. He couldn’t do so b/c CBS hadn’t made the final decision to end the show when the last episode was being produced. After it was shot, CBS cancelled the show which is why the series literally ended on a cliffhanger. In hindsight, if CBS had told Katzman that there would be no season 14, I’m sure he would have wrapped it up in a satisfying manner. All he had to do was have VP show up at Southfork and knock on the door and when he opens it have Pam say “hello Bobby”. Then, show the final credits. We all know how their story would have ended.

Pas de sous titre en français dommage

And her raspy voice is perfect because it explains the problem that happened with the explosion to her trachea changing her voice. It actually seemed to work and was realistic and also yes, she looked a lot like Pam I would have accepted her, and Pam would’ve never left them even though Mark did the same thing to her. That is especially why she would never do that.

They really tried hiding her face behind the dark chair and bright lighting behind her, knowing television picture quality then was shit

Yeah, rewatching this of course it's ridiculous Pam would do this under normal circumstances. I am thinking though they could have played this differently and had this women as a recast with exceptions I really don't go for recasts. However this women did kinda look close enough to the Pam character and her personality and voice sorta close. As I said they could have played it differently though for the recast since she looked differently could have explained it was due to extensive plastic surgery (s) but they would have required changing of the storyline.

@mrbigfan4182

3 жыл бұрын

By this point Bobby had moved on, and I for one was rooting for him and April!

Thought that jeri gaile rose McKay would of played pam Ewing very well saw a episode of cliff and rose together though of episode s with Ken and Victoria they had that brother and sister chemistry together

I lived all these years as a casual Dallas fan and never knew there was a "fake" Pam.

One thing about Cliff, he always loved his sister.

Actress that play Pam leave the show? Why did she leave Bobby and her son John Ross

Exactly, Pam would never have done this, would never have lived on...,.

This should have never happened. It makes no sense. Call it, another one of Pam's dreams. They should have brought her back as a badly disfigured women in the new Dallas.Now, that would have been worth watching.

We saw that women in the hall of oil meeting leading by cliff before donna come in with Bobby to take cliff's place.

I, really, dislike making this comment, about my favourite dramatic series but, I don't know how Ken Kercheval was able to keep a straight face, throughout this scene; just, not believable/credible/satisfying, for a viewer.

Kind of Ironic Dr. Gordon would be the first name of Gordon Cahill, father to Alex Cahill, and the girl with Cliff was APril Stephens before Alex Cahill.

The producers should have replaced Victoria with Margaret Michaels as Pam as soon as she left the show to make it as seamless as possible for the fans. That was huge mistake on their part, IMHO. They lost a lot of viewership because of this, not just because of the "Dream Season" without Bobby, then suddenly coming back the following season. I believe the series would have lasted much longer beyond 1991 if it weren't for those two hiccups. Dallas was never the same after 1987. It lost most of its credibility among viewers.

Sad that they ended her role on the show this way.

This version of pam was cold and heartless

I will never understand the writing after the accident and Victoria leaving. She and Bobby went through all that trouble getting a baby for her, not to mention all the trouble Bobby put himself into with getting their son illegally in the beginning. And Pam doesn’t feel she doesn’t owe that little boy or Bobby any kind of explanation is just selfish and unbelievable to me…

The coldness of Pam to Cliff (and Christopher and Bobby) wasn't believable. But what was even more ridiculous was when Bobby saw the Pam lookalike in later episodes and said she looked just like Pam did after her surgery. It was ridiculous because Bobby never saw Pam after the surgery!!!

@mainlymusicman

Жыл бұрын

i think he just thought she looked like pam , not necessarily pam after the surgery

@citygirl5705

Жыл бұрын

@@mainlymusicman When Bobby showed her to Cliff, Cliff said she looked just like Pam AFTER the surgery. So she obviously looked very different, therefore, it still made no sense that Bobby would said she looked just like Pam. Bobby even showed her a picture of Pam and she said "That's me!!"

@mainlymusicman

Жыл бұрын

@@citygirl5705 i dont think you can directly apply the obvious difference between the new actress playing Pam and Victoria principal as the same difference Bobby sees when he sees her. you basically have to assume that pam still looked somewhat like pam after the accident - to Bobby. we dont really have a gauge of how pam's appearance changed because it was a totally different actress. the effects of burns on someone's face would not be to the extent of making them look like a totally different person.

Did pam and April ever meet?

@carmenfrisicaro9890

4 жыл бұрын

Yes, at the 1986 Oil Baron's Ball

@mrbigfan4182

3 жыл бұрын

Cliff brought April to Bobby and Pam's wedding after Jamie caught them together!

Dallas after Bobby came back ( I realize that it was the ONLY way for Bobby to return, for it to be all a dream) but after Victoria Principal left, they knew that no amount of money would have made her return to the role. The writers as the show went on, became weak and ridiculous. They sadly turned the JR character into another Cliff Barnes. Proof is how they ended the series.. It was no longer the greatest drama in history, it became a shell of its former self. They teased us with the fact that VP would come back.

As much as a weasel as he could be my heart broke for Cliff here, he grew up close as siblings could be with Pam, he'd lost his father, their mother, his other sister ended up being a psychotic evil bitch, Pam was the only one he had left who'd been there from the beginning, ups and downs but always supporting one another, he lost a big chunk of his life in that room there.

She couldn’t bare the fact that her face was so messed up.

i prefer to pretend that pam never had that accident and she never had cancer she never die the last canon episode of the og show is the episode before the episode where the accident happened and the reboot isn´t canon

Once the show lost Pam then Sue Ellen in the season afterwards, there was no strong women left & the show when downhill in fairness

that isn't victoria principal very sad

if i was in charge of the sequel series i would pretend that the episode where pam as the accident and every episode after that never happened and i would have bob and pam being divorced since the actress didn´t want to come back but maybe she would come back if the sequel had ignored her accident and every episode after that

Can't hear a freaking word even with volume cranked to the max

Why didn’t Victoria Principal come back for this scene?

Ce que tout le monde oublie c est qu à la fin de l entretien avec cliff, elle avoue a son docteur qu elle a un cancer du pancréas donc irréversible, donc la nouvelle actrice ne pouvait incarner Pamela, de plus Victoria principal a bien négociée son départ et les producteurs voulaient son retour ou l espérait, de toute façon c est la seule actrice qui s en est très bien sortie, elle a créé ses cosmétiques ses parfums, ses vêtements et Marie à un riche chirurgien esthétique

Spoiler alert. That's not Victoria Principal but another actress. Cliff didn't recognize this was not his sister.

She was selfish but i understand her. Christopher was not her real son but Bobby at least deserved to know the truth he loved Pam more than anything. She was the most lucky having Bobby. But i understand with the accident she was all burn, that accident changed her from a sweet person to a cold person. And the fact that she didin't had a child of her own that's sad. And she had only months to live what makes me confused is all the operations to make her at least presentable for what? To have few months to live? Sad tragic end for Pam Ewing.