Dalai Lama on consort practice and crazy wisdom

In 1993 a group of western students asked Dalai Lama to sign a declaration that teachers not sleep with their students. he wouldn't aand now look where we are today.

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  • @K.0.D.
    @K.0.D.4 жыл бұрын

    Jetsunma Tenzin Palmo asking HHDL, translated by Thupten Jinpa; what a trio!! 🙏🏼🙏🏼🙏🏼

  • @olofaxelsson7996

    @olofaxelsson7996

    3 жыл бұрын

    Indeed! Rejoicing that this gathering took place.

  • @danielx40

    @danielx40

    2 жыл бұрын

    Back when the phd was still a monk..

  • @wumaofiftycent-eq3bf

    @wumaofiftycent-eq3bf

    Жыл бұрын

    🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻

  • @aidanharrison3888
    @aidanharrison38884 жыл бұрын

    I had to walk away from the NKT , many years ago . Before things went crazy , and FPMT were still involved , I had a decent grounding in Buddhist thought . However when it did go crazy , I had to get out . When someone asks you to be an idiot , stop reading books , or break the vows they have just given you . How can I justify harming others in the search for Enlightenment ?

  • @mysteradio

    @mysteradio

    3 жыл бұрын

    would love to hear about your experiences. if you're interested in sharing, please email me: amoroso@nevada.unr.edu

  • @enstigatorofficial

    @enstigatorofficial

    29 күн бұрын

    Yes, NKT is a false dharma teachings.They make some critical errors on the most basic tenants. I am glad you escaped!

  • @backwardthoughts1022

    @backwardthoughts1022

    27 күн бұрын

    ​@@enstigatorofficialno dullwit, they have some very soon teachers.

  • @samallison5692
    @samallison5692 Жыл бұрын

    A young person must be protected from abuse by those given guardianship roles

  • @gekiryudojo
    @gekiryudojo9 ай бұрын

    thank you you are holiness and Jetsuma for this insight ❤

  • @mountaingoattaichi
    @mountaingoattaichi2 жыл бұрын

    Great question regarding crazy wisdom🎯

  • @korashortss
    @korashortss4 жыл бұрын

    That the point.... majority of westerners who follow Buddhist tend to believe blind faith to any teacher. It happens due to not knowing the Buddhist tradition follow in Nalanda. You can give respect to any teacher but must always be very skeptical only intellectually by asking questions and observing whether the teacher properly practicing the teaching taught by Buddha.

  • @aidanharrison3888

    @aidanharrison3888

    4 жыл бұрын

    It is not often that we get the truth on the internet . So thank you very much . I have seen so many lost people . I mean kind hearted compassionate people over the years , taken for fools by people with a certain agenda . What can I do ? Nothing . Just say my prayers .

  • @nukustudio6882

    @nukustudio6882

    3 жыл бұрын

    From my experience, African, and practioner of Tibetan Buddhism for many years, the teacher is relevant, his only duty is to guide one with the meditation practice. The practice is the teacher.

  • @SusanHopkinson

    @SusanHopkinson

    2 жыл бұрын

    I don’t think we can say this is a uniquely Western issue. I have spent many years in India witnessing blind faith in astonishingly dubious teachings. When people want someone to remove their suffering rather than becoming responsible for their own situation they will believe just about anything 🙏🏻

  • @alankuntz6494

    @alankuntz6494

    Жыл бұрын

    None of of this was taught by buddha

  • @backwardthoughts1022

    @backwardthoughts1022

    27 күн бұрын

    ​@@alankuntz6494vows weren't? youre a bit stupid.

  • @tenzinthinley4005
    @tenzinthinley40054 жыл бұрын

    A person can only misuse or abuse his or her power only when that person is put in a position to do so by others. Some Tibetan lamas abused their power because they were empowered to do so by others. His Holiness message is that don't empower them from by doing due diligence from beginning.

  • @camillep9346

    @camillep9346

    4 жыл бұрын

    Tenzin thinley Of course, you are blaming the ‘victim’, here - this is unjust. Any teacher holds a position of influence and power and the onus is on THEM not to overstep the boundaries of ethics and intimacy which consequently interferes with the learning of the student, the fundamental basis of their relationship and connection. If a sexual relationship must occur, respect to other students, and the involved student, means the deeper connection must develop outside of the dynamic of teacher/student - perhaps later......

  • @easytiger266

    @easytiger266

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@camillep9346 Not sure if you're a communist propaganda troll, But ultimately, the point that Thinley makes is that, we are responsible for our self. We cannot control other peoples behavior and actions, but we can control ourselves. So the Dalai lama is advising caution and a skeptical attitude before committing to the guru/student relationship. The dalai lama is not responsible for every single Buddhist master and every single Buddhist school. He holds no authority over them.

  • @camillep9346

    @camillep9346

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@easytiger266 your response is totally unrelated to my comment. I note that u don’t type HH Dali Lama with due respect. Thank u for calling me a ‘troll’ or ‘communist’ - what are the qualities suggesting these and what do they ‘mean’. Buddhism 101 is us taking responsibility for our own happiness. Teachers behaving unethically IS their problem and unacceptable.

  • @sekubambadomino1671

    @sekubambadomino1671

    2 жыл бұрын

    The issue is we.must, particularly the west attributing wisdom only to Tibet

  • @gekiryudojo

    @gekiryudojo

    9 ай бұрын

    thanks, that was an interesting insight.

  • @karanvasudeva5424
    @karanvasudeva54244 жыл бұрын

    Robert Thurman is funny!

  • @PS-qn4oz
    @PS-qn4oz3 жыл бұрын

    I can barely hear anything.

  • @enstigatorofficial

    @enstigatorofficial

    29 күн бұрын

    yea so hard to understand

  • @keschoetenyang1427
    @keschoetenyang14273 жыл бұрын

    🙏🙏🙏

  • @Juice7777
    @Juice777711 ай бұрын

    Audio is no good. I can barely hear them and accents are too heavy. Need a transcript please in clear English

  • @BasicBuddhist
    @BasicBuddhist2 жыл бұрын

    .I think that Jetsuma Tenzin Palmo is my new hero. She opens it up for healing, pierces the boil. I do think the Dalai Lama is a bit dismissive though...

  • @bladvagsrgyallo2053

    @bladvagsrgyallo2053

    Жыл бұрын

    Yes, unwise and immature of jetsunma to bring esoteric teachings on a pedestal where everyone will be confused by it because most won't understand it, but good on her as this issue of senior monks abusing disciples is controlled. However rare it might be. Well explained by His Holiness, but reluctantly because he knows many idiots will think they'll gain superpowers and practice tantra with insincere motivation and become mad.

  • @ugyendema2775
    @ugyendema2775 Жыл бұрын

    🙏🙏🙏😇🙇‍♀️

  • @IntellectualParkIP
    @IntellectualParkIP4 ай бұрын

    ❤❤❤🙏🙏🙏

  • @dogsquadindia
    @dogsquadindia4 жыл бұрын

    Jinpa la, this must be a very old video-- what year?

  • @mysteradio

    @mysteradio

    3 жыл бұрын

    1993, i think.

  • @charlesrae9653
    @charlesrae9653 Жыл бұрын

    Ah! the equivocal Dalai Lama...

  • @kreexp
    @kreexp9 ай бұрын

    Everything is as it as. The path is not the path which is the path. It’s on the principle of “I think, therefore, I am not.” The universe has its reason beyond your mind can rationalize.

  • @dadon4thjan
    @dadon4thjan Жыл бұрын

    Is it possible to see the full video please,

  • @RK-ec5de

    @RK-ec5de

    Жыл бұрын

    All videos can be found in full here meridian-trust.org/tag/1993/

  • @dadon4thjan

    @dadon4thjan

    Жыл бұрын

    @@RK-ec5de thank u so much

  • @mariosampaio108
    @mariosampaio1083 жыл бұрын

    dont mistake the nature and scope of the teachings with hyerarchical institutionalized organizations

  • @anniewilson9186
    @anniewilson91863 жыл бұрын

    "i am told by a superior it is not my place to write about nuclear war...that is for the bishops. i am told by a moral theologian that the bishops cannot possibly write about such things without the help of the moral theologian. meanwhile most moral theologians are too concerned with protecting their reputation. soon they may not have a reputation to protect." - dr. louis happy 2020!

  • @jbzrs
    @jbzrs2 жыл бұрын

    the victim will has no fear

  • @linkinpark2112
    @linkinpark2112 Жыл бұрын

    i can not understand anything being said

  • @sangaytanchong6337
    @sangaytanchong63372 жыл бұрын

    Things are not what they seem. So doing crazy thing is like having guts to jump from cliff in dream, knowing it's dream. 🙏🙏🙏

  • @shepthedog4099

    @shepthedog4099

    Жыл бұрын

    We are not talking about abuse in a dream but in reality and the harm it causes an individual.

  • @richardprice9730
    @richardprice9730 Жыл бұрын

    🙋‍♂️😠 See the problem is immature pre oedipal and oedipal conflicts unresolved,sex reactive repression is a curse on humanity as much as dysregulated sex ie predatory behaviour 😳

  • @fingerprint5511
    @fingerprint55112 жыл бұрын

    This is why I turned to Theravada, Forest Tradition, none of this idiocy that is that Lama.... ocean of wisdom indeed ...

  • @backwardthoughts1022

    @backwardthoughts1022

    Жыл бұрын

    lol sucks to be you

  • @backwardthoughts1022

    @backwardthoughts1022

    27 күн бұрын

    one graduates from theravada to sautrantika, to this nalanda buddhism. they explain theravada much better than most theravadins.

  • @teresadewi2144
    @teresadewi21448 ай бұрын

    If it is about reaching the state of dispassion, consort is not needed. You only have to interview divorced couples. Lots and lots of stories which will make you avoid marriage. Or try living with abusive, manipulative PRETTY girls. Beautiful but devilish at heart. Sooner than later dispassionate state will be achieved by you. No yoga needed.

  • @oksam7667
    @oksam76674 жыл бұрын

    No student has the capacity the « tools » spiritual awareness to check on a Master. You can Check a Master only if you have the same level of realization as He! YOU don’t choose a Master, He chooses you!

  • @sharapzangpo6067

    @sharapzangpo6067

    Жыл бұрын

    Should we wait until someone chooses us

  • @tenzinluding

    @tenzinluding

    Жыл бұрын

    There is always a way to check a pseudo master or genuine master for an unbiased and reasoning mind in time … there are so many indicators or parameters to gauge 🙏🏼

  • @infinitelight465

    @infinitelight465

    10 ай бұрын

    Who chooses Buddha to be Buddha? Ridiculous serfdom mentality of old elite Tibetan power structure held by monks to control majority of people.

  • @peterbarker8249
    @peterbarker8249 Жыл бұрын

    ...a monk eh?..

  • @peterbarker8249
    @peterbarker8249 Жыл бұрын

    .e

  • @chaztatz-xj3wx
    @chaztatz-xj3wx Жыл бұрын

    I'm Mani padme hum

  • @peterbarker8249
    @peterbarker8249 Жыл бұрын

    ...budda who ?

  • @konstantinNeo
    @konstantinNeo Жыл бұрын

    Why is the need for the translator when hhdl can speak english?

  • @__Henry__

    @__Henry__

    Жыл бұрын

    Looks, here, that the Dalai Lama can speak just some English and so needs assistance.

  • @peterbarker8249
    @peterbarker8249 Жыл бұрын

    ..what is a student teacher..

  • @tendorji
    @tendorji4 жыл бұрын

    The person who made His Holiness, very uncomfortable, I forgive you. If you want to know more, you should have asked a Tantric Master, such question. Clearly, this is not a question for H.H. Yet, when H. H laughs, I am sure, he forgive you.

  • @bladvagsrgyallo2053

    @bladvagsrgyallo2053

    Жыл бұрын

    @Chaim Mendel everyone makes everyone else. Jetsunma, as achieved as she is, has also made a good point but is confused about what is the line that defines tantric practice and abuse, like he said, sexual organs can only be used by tantrics who see no difference between feces and feast, it is not possible to comprehend such acts for a normal conformed person. But she was wrong in bringing up esoteric, tantric practices on a public platform as it is create doubts and confusion about buddha dharma as people will only look at it superficialy.

  • @quenar
    @quenar3 жыл бұрын

    why was Dalai Lama speaking about Lama from completely discrete school?

  • @bladvagsrgyallo2053

    @bladvagsrgyallo2053

    Жыл бұрын

    Because he was asked

  • @freyasmith9588
    @freyasmith95884 жыл бұрын

    Do NOT “spy” on anyone. A better word here is investigate. I repeat do NOT “spy” on anyone. Bad karma, poor means.

  • @freyasmith9588

    @freyasmith9588

    4 жыл бұрын

    Investigate, observe, inquire...

  • @bladvagsrgyallo2053

    @bladvagsrgyallo2053

    Жыл бұрын

    Thank the Lord you got what he meant 😅

  • @bfhwhataboutthecavesdude6162

    @bfhwhataboutthecavesdude6162

    Жыл бұрын

    relax, dude , everyone knows what he meant.

  • @toddm6999
    @toddm69994 жыл бұрын

    But of course empowerment text is nothing to do with Buddhism and a gross and unlawful act under the Pali canon as breaking of the precepts on sexual misconduct....in short it's crap!

  • @kaungzawhan2000

    @kaungzawhan2000

    4 жыл бұрын

    That’s why no monk will ever do it!You do realize that Tibetan monks also have to follow the Mahasamgika Vinaya which is pretty similar to the Pali Vinaya.If only ever,it’s done symbolically.And also,it’s not sexual misconduct,it’s root downfall(parajika).Maybe stop being a Theravada supremacist especially when you don’t even know heads or tails of what you’re talking😏

  • @backwardthoughts1022

    @backwardthoughts1022

    Жыл бұрын

    theres so much scholarship on this topic now that this sort of stupid view of tibetan buddhism really requires strong laziness and ignorance

  • @rajgopalsood1276
    @rajgopalsood12764 жыл бұрын

    Do you know This man was on pay roll of CIA

  • @SusanHopkinson

    @SusanHopkinson

    2 жыл бұрын

    He wasn’t being paid by CIA, he was being protected by them, so money was (and might still be - hard to know) spent on preventing the Chinese from killing him. The CIA were training Tibetans in Tibet in the late 1940s and early 1950s until they simply dropped them altogether and left them to their fate as China gradually overtook Tibet and caused HHDL and hundreds of thousands of others to flee.

  • @alankuntz6494

    @alankuntz6494

    Жыл бұрын

    better than on the pay roll with the chinese communist

  • @alankuntz6494

    @alankuntz6494

    Жыл бұрын

    Did you know Tibet has flourished since the Chinese tooK control.You should see it now and how the people are really happy and not under the thumb of fuedal Lama control and manipulation. There lot's of videos about it. They've even rebuilt monastery's in Lhasa. They all have running water and electricity and don't have to use yak poop to make their yak butter tea. The Chinese have made a pureland heaven out of the place. China saved Tibet. They can't be all so bad.

  • @robford3211

    @robford3211

    Жыл бұрын

    @@alankuntz6494 Yes Chairman Mao did a wonderful job of getting rid of apron 90 million people during the Cultural revolution, he makes Hitler look like a small child

  • @englishzone3016

    @englishzone3016

    Жыл бұрын

    @@alankuntz6494 HongKong flourished after British took over,before that small fishing village,when China took back it was commercial capital of world.

  • @phoenixthundertarot3738
    @phoenixthundertarot37385 ай бұрын

    This man is a liar! I had a teacher take advantage of me and the only way out was 15 years of fighting This man is lies He shows you nothing this is comedy 😂😂😂

  • @thanakritsuwan6348
    @thanakritsuwan6348 Жыл бұрын

    Do Buddhism practice asceticism?

  • @K.0.D.
    @K.0.D.4 жыл бұрын

    Jetsunma Tenzin Palmo asking HHDL, translated by Thupten Jinpa; what a trio!! 🙏🏼🙏🏼🙏🏼