Cybersocialism: Project Cybersyn & The CIA Coup in Chile (Full Documentary by Plastic Pills)

Any description here must be prefaced by gratitude to the couple hundred people that made this project possible. I hope it lives up to the vision I presented to you all, those months ago.
If you want to see content like this show up online, it needs your support. I have gained some experience these past 4 months, particularly that big projects are a bad idea for small channels. Unfortunately I am yet beholden to a shadowy algorithmic god who does not reward production value or effort, only the frequency of uploads. You can help by either buying a ticket to the bonus content, or by sharing it around if that isn't viable, and maybe then I can do more like this in the future. There are already a bunch of videos of the creation process on Patreon. / plasticpills
We have some follow-up content on the Plasticpills podcast. Here is the first episode on a series about Cybernetics and Systems Theory • Cybernetics & Systems ... , and here is a link to the companion episode for this documentary: • Project Cybersyn & Lat...
The public podcast can be found wherever you get podcasts (PlasticPills - Philosophy & Critical Theory). All exclusive episodes are up on Patreon.
Translations by/traducido al español por Carlos Salinas, Traductor de la Universidad de La Serena, Chile; contact for ESP/ENG (salinas.carlos073@protonmail.com)
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Works Cited
If you are looking for a reading list, start with Eden Medina's "Cybernetic Revolutionaries," which is the definitive study of the Cybersyn project. (Maybe you can find it at your local indie bookstore? Ha. Maybe Barnes & Noble is a less exploitative employer? Ha. Here's the Amazon link but if you're moral you'll wait till the revolution to order it): amzn.to/3fvES2l
If you are led to believe this is all propagating conspiracy theory, here is official, mostly unredacted US Senate Committee Report from the mid 1970s: www.archives.gov/files/declas...
Stafford Beer's "Brain of the Firm" explains in detail the application of viable systems theory to organizations, and in it, Beer offers his reflections on Project Cybersyn post-hoc: amzn.to/3yY5pwG
Other sources cited include:
"The Pinochet File" by Peter Kornbluh (amzn.to/2WSB0C1)
"Chile 1973: The Other 9/11" by David Francois (amzn.to/3ftgiPC)
"Successful Neoliberalism?" by Ashley Davis-Hamel, paywalled by an academic conglomerate here: www.jstor.org/stable/41887539
Timestamps
0:00 Intro
7:51 Cybernetics
12:04 The Designers of Cybersyn
20:11 Project Cybersyn
28:08 The Empire Strikes Back
46:57 The October Strike
50:22 Democracy Dies in Chile

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  • @DiegoRuzzarin
    @DiegoRuzzarin2 жыл бұрын

    This is a master piece! Congraz on the work Pills. Hope we can do something togueter soon. Alguien mas llego aqui por mi recomendacion?

  • @danielgalvan6411

    @danielgalvan6411

    2 жыл бұрын

    Yess asi es! Por el Diegito

  • @gervontaaleman2340

    @gervontaaleman2340

    2 жыл бұрын

    Si aquí ando por ti

  • @luiskojima

    @luiskojima

    2 жыл бұрын

    👌🏼👍🏼

  • @mariselamyrie177

    @mariselamyrie177

    2 жыл бұрын

    ¡Sí! Yo llegué por recomendación tuya y he amado este documental. Gracias por hacernos llegar esta bella y dolorosa obra de arte. 🤌🏾✨

  • @depaquillo

    @depaquillo

    2 жыл бұрын

    Yo llegué aqui por tu recomendacion Diego, lo acabo de terminar y bueno, con todas las proporciones guardadas veo a mi México sin un Allende, pero con todo el intevencionismo de los estadounidenses asentado gracias a los gobiernos de derecha que hemos tenido. Me da un p..to coraje cómo no vamos y les ponemos en la m primero a los prostitutos de ideología que se benefician de traicionar a su pueblo.

  • @gnnrclvrt
    @gnnrclvrt2 жыл бұрын

    Allende’s last words made me cry : ‘ (

  • @mariapaulamacedo4858

    @mariapaulamacedo4858

    2 жыл бұрын

    always gives me chills and makes my eyes watery :c

  • @ionlyhavebadmemes

    @ionlyhavebadmemes

    2 жыл бұрын

    same

  • @chris.hartliss

    @chris.hartliss

    2 жыл бұрын

    Yep

  • @dicitencellovoyais7914

    @dicitencellovoyais7914

    2 жыл бұрын

    loser

  • @claragallardo4258

    @claragallardo4258

    2 жыл бұрын

    Los que vivimos el gobierno de Allende somos los testigos directos y sin tergiversar la verdad, el Pronunciamiento militar con Pinochet fue lo mejor que pudo suceder y la gran mayoría de chilenos de todos los colores políticos nos alegramos de poder salir del nefasto comunismo , no opinen si no lo vivieron !!!

  • @1Dimee
    @1Dimee2 жыл бұрын

    Brother this is your Magnum Opus

  • @greenplanetgone3861

    @greenplanetgone3861

    2 жыл бұрын

    ... so far!

  • @websterbatista-lin600
    @websterbatista-lin6002 жыл бұрын

    I'm an economist and I was listening to this while programming an economic analysis. Here's the dirty secret of neoclassical economic: Basically all economic analysis literally begins with imagining how a system such as Cybersyn would handle an economic situation and then examines how the market fucks it up. The trick is then to say that a system such as Cybersyn is impossible, so the fucked up market outcome is actually the best achievable outcome. This is not an exaggeration.

  • @Zhicano

    @Zhicano

    2 жыл бұрын

    Jesus Christ

  • @Bojoschannel

    @Bojoschannel

    2 жыл бұрын

    I swear i sometimes find neoclassical economics hard to understand not because it is hard to understand itself but because of how stupid it is

  • @smokyondagrass2353

    @smokyondagrass2353

    2 жыл бұрын

    Have you ever heard of the Lange model

  • @Attalic

    @Attalic

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@smokyondagrass2353 LMFAOOOOO

  • @smokyondagrass2353

    @smokyondagrass2353

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@Attalic why laugh?

  • @RamiroFlores298
    @RamiroFlores2982 жыл бұрын

    Pills, I'm chilean. Some family members were imprisoned and killed during the dictatorship. That period in the chilean history has always been very relevant to me... It was incredibly touching watching your documentary. Excellent work. Thank you for showing us an angle that is really not well know about that period... So many futures lost to the capital-thirsty US of A

  • @kwenteradradenraynmakradve8327

    @kwenteradradenraynmakradve8327

    2 жыл бұрын

    You know about Chile neuroscience mkultra nanotech

  • @scienceium5233

    @scienceium5233

    2 жыл бұрын

    We must overthrow the crapitalist dictatorship

  • @CariMachet

    @CariMachet

    Жыл бұрын

    It’s not really capital hungry it’s more blood thirsty mass murderers for fun

  • @alexbaker3071

    @alexbaker3071

    Жыл бұрын

    Indeed many democratic futures were lost to them . Just the case is Mossadegh and the Coup that followed him in Perisa .

  • @notanothermichael4676
    @notanothermichael46762 жыл бұрын

    Unironically the real "this is what "they" took from us" moment

  • @shaanalam3872
    @shaanalam3872 Жыл бұрын

    “A future trapped in the past”

  • @daltonsantanalima93
    @daltonsantanalima932 жыл бұрын

    This made me cry. I am a Brazilian historian, and while I'm typing this, a neofascist c*nt occupies the presidential chair of Brazil, and his highest in command, the economy minister, is committed to the same ideology of those Chicago boys. Almost 50 years have passed and Latin America still is US pocket. Thank you very much for this documentary. It will for sure be recommended to all my friends. It's sad not all of them speaks English nor Spanish. If you ever want to put Portuguese subtitles on it, I would gladly help. Todo poder ao povo!

  • @conveyor2

    @conveyor2

    9 ай бұрын

    You're more in China's pocket now, comrade. No doubt you enjoy that!

  • @benxamin13

    @benxamin13

    8 ай бұрын

    I cried too. Power will eventually return to the people and freedom and joy will return too!

  • @Gawdzillest

    @Gawdzillest

    5 ай бұрын

    Who are Chicago boys?

  • @dal5556

    @dal5556

    Ай бұрын

    @@GawdzillestChicago school of Economics - Friedman, Hayek, Neoliberalism, etc

  • @canaldoreno

    @canaldoreno

    Ай бұрын

    He's back with Elon musk this must spread around

  • @noirmythos
    @noirmythos2 жыл бұрын

    This story is not unkown (in part) for me. I'm chilean and is part of our story, but there are so many things not known (or with a twist of truth). Loved the documentary, it made me cry. I cried remembering m parents and the things they said about this. I cried while listening to Allende. And I'm still crying about the way those who profit don't care about what they destroy or what they take. Thanks, I've been so invested in the work you've done in your videos and podcast in various themes (I'm a psychoanalyst myself so the works on Lacan were quite interesting). Keep doing what you do pills, we'll keep listening.

  • @jstevinik3261

    @jstevinik3261

    2 жыл бұрын

    I have want hear more about your story, especially on the experiences on your parents, if you are comfortable to tell (you don't have to, though).

  • @hopebringer2348

    @hopebringer2348

    2 жыл бұрын

    Debemos votar por Boric, hermano mío! Es la mejor opción para quienes soñamos con salir de este modo de vida

  • @jstevinik3261

    @jstevinik3261

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@hopebringer2348 Too bad Jadue is win the first round.

  • @hopebringer2348

    @hopebringer2348

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@jstevinik3261 Jadue lost

  • @jstevinik3261

    @jstevinik3261

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@hopebringer2348 I know :(

  • @cesardonis94
    @cesardonis942 жыл бұрын

    I’m Latin American and I grew up knowing the story of Allende and the people of Chile. Growing up in Canada it always amazed me how nobody knew nor cared about this part of History.

  • @estebancastillo4840

    @estebancastillo4840

    2 жыл бұрын

    Not that anybody cares, the fact is that they have been try so hard to hide this part of our history and keep to themselves any information, including the name of the pilots that attacked the Palace

  • @calmao666

    @calmao666

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@estebancastillo4840 not even i, a Chilean, knew that very relevant detail:/

  • @NevetsTSmith

    @NevetsTSmith

    Жыл бұрын

    I'm canadian, though not Latin American. All of Allende and the Cybersyn project in Chile covered in school was limited to a brief paragraph in an old text book that boiled it down to "They tried a cybernetic form of government, but it didn't work out so well." It's a tragedy, and ought to be a crime that it's so under and misrepresented. One day we must struggle for the same vision, preferably before the whole world goes to hell in a handbasket.

  • @user-uu7og7vv7w
    @user-uu7og7vv7w2 жыл бұрын

    I am a Chinese,in my motherland government has been a revisionism country,country is developing but cost is the dream.The dream to the equal society.The students learn socialism learn Marxism in schools,but their lost in the society of the capitalist.I also had deep doubts about socialism and felt it was very difficult to achieved.Before this video,I know some about Allende,but is first time know about his Project Cybersyn.Even Allende’s story is a tragedy.But his Cybersyn let me see a clearer path,before this I still can’t find the question about how to control socialist society.Very thanks you to let me see this.

  • @davidcruztoribio2297

    @davidcruztoribio2297

    2 жыл бұрын

    I'm from Mexico, we have now a leftist goverment , I see a lot of similarities on how USA uses media to atack the goberment, is frustrating how the libertarians are creating a movement against everything that is now under USA believes, we see China not as an example to follow, couse we believe (we don't know if is true) that Chinise goverment is too autocratic. But we really don't know what to believe about china, would be great if you share about how is tha life in chine about restrictions, and politics.

  • @Helperbot-2000

    @Helperbot-2000

    Жыл бұрын

    well the simplest answer to how to control (which i assume you mean govern?) a socialist society is that it remains the same as capitalism but without the leeches of ceos on the economy, the workers earn the profits their labour creates

  • @cortanathelawless1848

    @cortanathelawless1848

    2 ай бұрын

    That's what I find saddest about socialists that Stan china, their imagination seems highly limited. What worth is your socialism if it just reproduces capitalism.

  • @cfh1995
    @cfh19952 жыл бұрын

    As a teacher, in Argentina, once said in a class I was in full of U.S. students before proceeding to lambast the Nixon administration, Pinochet, and Kissinger: "Let me show you our 9/11; the day that signaled the end of hope for so many of us." (Didn't matter that he wasn't Chilean; even before Videla he understood what it meant for the surrounding countries). Brilliant video, brilliant editing. Beer almost had me crying at the beginning.

  • @elchupacabra1406
    @elchupacabra14069 ай бұрын

    Man learning about Allende's story and how Cybersyn was massacred makes me so glad that I'm not American and helped refuel my desire for supporting public infrastructure. Its sickening what the US empire was able to get away with in the last century

  • @libertangel
    @libertangel2 жыл бұрын

    I'm chilean and it pains me deeply that I was raised ignorant of the truth. My childhood was lived in Pinochet's regime and I had no idea of all of this, being too young, sheltered and privileged with a kind family. Now that I'm reaching 40, I have hope of a change but am still in fear of history repeating itself. The new social blow out even took place in october, is it a sign? I don't now, but I pray that Allende's dream will be reborn. We deserve better than the hell U.S. have brought to earth with this brutal imperial capitalism. Thank you for your video.

  • @politanene

    @politanene

    2 жыл бұрын

    I'm Chilean, I'm on the same page as you, happy to see what was banned for me during my childhood, I never knew about any abuse and the cruelty during the dictatorship, and also never imagine the corporations' power. I recommend you to read Jorge Baradit's books, they are really informative. Viva Chile!

  • @libertangel

    @libertangel

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@politanene ¡Los voy a leer! Viva Chile.

  • @smokyondagrass2353

    @smokyondagrass2353

    2 жыл бұрын

    Reading about project cybersyn always made me cry 😭. Like the star trek future was like literally being set up in Chile and it was destroyed. I never want to hear there is not an alternative.

  • @PC42190

    @PC42190

    2 жыл бұрын

    Aguante Allende

  • @Theorychad99

    @Theorychad99

    2 жыл бұрын

    I recommend reading Lenin

  • @LighthoofDryden
    @LighthoofDryden2 жыл бұрын

    One of the most important videos I’ve seen on KZread. It’s tragic because the vision was stolen, but inspiring in that we have the pieces to revive it, possibly even better, if we have the will. This should be required viewing for everyone in the US especially.

  • @ClaytonLivsey
    @ClaytonLivsey2 жыл бұрын

    It is absolutely mindblowing that you put out content of this quality so consistently, for free. Thank you Pills.

  • @martins3993

    @martins3993

    2 жыл бұрын

    Patreon is a wonderful thing.

  • @AL_THOMAS_777

    @AL_THOMAS_777

    2 жыл бұрын

    👍👍👍

  • @joeymcauley1
    @joeymcauley12 жыл бұрын

    Simultaneously the most inspiring and depressing video ive seen. We need Big Data for the people and we need it fast.

  • @jeremiahsinag9520

    @jeremiahsinag9520

    2 жыл бұрын

    If applied correctly. the video textbooked explained that use case is important: use big data for the capital, or for its people? And im kinda being cynical here given the fact that the last 6 - 10 years of big data was nothing but for corporate interests, and nowadays surveilance and phrenology.

  • @jeremiahsinag9520

    @jeremiahsinag9520

    2 жыл бұрын

    @N-Gnoid TV no, i mean, Big Data in the actual usecase of the word: aggregation of data to be used in analysis-statistical models. Like cybersyn does. Not yknow... "Data" Then again, modelling and the cyber is values neutral, that's the point of the video. My real issue here is, is there actual usecase Big Data like this today? Or to keep it simple and on theme: why there isnt another cybersyn? what stop us from making communial kyberos? sure your TPB would go a long way but it aint enough when it comes to managing a society. What we need is actual social data. And where's that? And why isnt now? And worse: why the dialectical pathways of ideology lead the cyber into this surveillalistic, in support of the capital? And from that, we can build our action plan from there. It says a lot that CHAZ turned to horticultural than say... This (a bit of a ad hominem, if i may in the parenthesis: *do you even know what those sites do?* like, at all? they're mostly data storage of... *Anything* not even curated. So for making that as an example... Just baffles me. And making examples of "using linux and adblockers" just prevents the capitalist machineries to be exploited by people. You're conflating what the word "data" means in this context and idk if this is my sleepy arse talking but it infuriates me deeply... Added salt to wound that one accuses of being a couch analyst, at least in my reading of your comment. Why i put this here? Idk. In the end, FOSS is just a structural platform. FOSS or not, we already have a stable platform to build the Cyber. The question is of *usecase*, and you missed the point)

  • @nicolasparra9860

    @nicolasparra9860

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@jeremiahsinag9520!

  • @IriSmarchitOleroAnAl

    @IriSmarchitOleroAnAl

    Жыл бұрын

    that would be very energetically expensive, but it's kindof already happening

  • @jaimeernesto2684
    @jaimeernesto26849 ай бұрын

    To this point I'm just leaving a comment so that the algorythm can spread this video.

  • @superspiderdum
    @superspiderdum Жыл бұрын

    bro you just changed my life

  • @wraithwrecker_
    @wraithwrecker_2 жыл бұрын

    This is just incredible. This highlighted a side of Allende's administration I wasn't previously aware of. Congratulations on the positive reception, this documentary is so so SO unbelievably good. Thank you for all your work.

  • @cerebralflex8447
    @cerebralflex84472 жыл бұрын

    Your editing and script were phenomenal, sir. Once this is open to the public, I hope it blows up. You've inspired me to look into Latin American politics and U.S. intervention. Keep up the good work!

  • @xenumror3097

    @xenumror3097

    2 жыл бұрын

    i use to say that when americans surpass the american simulacra of the americancentrism and exceptionalism and look outside of its borders, specially to the latin america (since we're cousins and neighbors) and acknowledge how capitalist american imperialism fucked up our 20th century and still do not only thru neoliberal propaganda in form of capitalist realism but as well as hybrid war operations (im brazilian and the democrats was still messing around here the last decade, providing training programs by the CIA to federal brazilian prosecuters as lawfare methods of hybrid war leading to political and economical crisis provoking political shift and therefore so foreign capital could loot our resources), then maybe we can start imagining new futures for this continent and the world

  • @arnoldkotlyarevsky383

    @arnoldkotlyarevsky383

    2 жыл бұрын

    needs more visibility

  • @ClamideaViruz

    @ClamideaViruz

    2 жыл бұрын

    you can check out "the open veins of latin america" by Eduardo Galeano, but this book is more focused on colonialism. You can read about "A narco history" it's about narco and intervention

  • @dieselphiend

    @dieselphiend

    2 жыл бұрын

    All "revolutions" are merely wars by proxy..

  • @sarahahamed970
    @sarahahamed97011 ай бұрын

    Allende's last words had me in tears.

  • @BlakeZeb
    @BlakeZeb2 жыл бұрын

    I can’t find the words to express how impactful this masterpiece was on me, especially as someone ignorant of South America’s history, and the depths of US imperialism..

  • @sempressfi

    @sempressfi

    2 жыл бұрын

    Yeah, this was very powerful. Even having previously been at least familiar with what the US did to Chile, it still left me crying and enraged. While I no longer feel shock when learning about something the US has done to other countries (I mean hell, look at what it does to itself/its own people here at home), somehow it is still shocking that humans can do this to each other.

  • @ionlyhavebadmemes
    @ionlyhavebadmemes8 ай бұрын

    Coming back today hits different. 50 Years. 50 Years since they stole the future that could have been.

  • @tomw6926
    @tomw69262 жыл бұрын

    What an awesome video! I'm a systems engineer, my job is designing and the improving cybernetic systems in the companies I've worked for. God I wish I could have the chance to work on a project like CyberSyn that helps people instead of just maximising profit for shareholders.

  • @AL_THOMAS_777

    @AL_THOMAS_777

    2 жыл бұрын

    👍👍👍

  • @anthonysteele8932

    @anthonysteele8932

    9 ай бұрын

    This may be something that you can contribute to. Look up a guy named Peter Joseph, founder of the Zeitgeist movement. He’s been a huge proponent of project cybersyn and has been working tirelessly to help being about real economic change at the structural level.

  • @anthonysteele8932

    @anthonysteele8932

    9 ай бұрын

    This may be something that you can contribute to. Look up a guy named Peter Joseph, founder of the Zeitgeist movement. He’s been a huge proponent of project cybersyn and has been working tirelessly to help being about real economic change at the structural level.

  • @pumpkinsoup5679

    @pumpkinsoup5679

    6 ай бұрын

    You could put together systems development with 10 times the potential of cybersyn.

  • @snoa18
    @snoa182 жыл бұрын

    While Allende is one of the most admirable figures in our history in Chile, for some of us it's very hard to no think that Fidel Castro was at least partially right. Allende was faithful to the bitter end to his ideals and to the institutions that *should have* been for the betterment of the Chilean people, but the economic powers and US imperialism were never going to play by the rules like he did and everyone knew that from the start. His last speech on Sept 11 always makes me very emotional. In one hand because of how powerful it is and how hopeful it is for the future even in the most horrifying times, but also because it's heartbreaking for what could have been and the horrors that followed for the next 17 years of dictatorship and later 30 years of post-dictatorship impunity, keeping most of the Chicago Boys' economic policies that keep us oppressed to this day, and currently with Pinochet's successor pseudo-dictator Piñera that kills, tortures and imprisons protesters just like Pinochet did before. Amazing video. The algorithm recommended it to me and it caught me by surprise. Keep up the good work! Instant subscribe.

  • @Vivacious_Lenin

    @Vivacious_Lenin

    2 жыл бұрын

    agreed Castro was definitely correct in the way that you have to get your hands dirty to fight imperialism

  • @Opaso

    @Opaso

    2 жыл бұрын

    Well said. Hope the new constitution will improve some things in the society. However, the path is long and many Chileans still lives in fear.

  • @smokyondagrass2353

    @smokyondagrass2353

    2 жыл бұрын

    In some ways I think Castro was right but in others I think Allende made a pretty accurate calculation. Remember by 1973 the u.s. has overthrown a bunch of governments in Latin America surrounding Chile. Like if there was like a Cuban style cyberrevolution the U.S is definitely gonna get those countries to invade to help the fascists. I think Allende was trying to avoid a Spanish Republic situation. Granted the soviets were on their way to send in arms before the coup happened so if Allende did arm the workers they might be able to hold out a bit. At least until Argentina gets couped.

  • @My-nl6sg

    @My-nl6sg

    2 жыл бұрын

    Allende, for all his brilliance, loyalty, idealism, optimism, should have put as little trust in the state institutions of Chile built under and for capitalism, as little as he should have trusted US government institutions that served US capital solely. Long live the revolution, long live the people, long live a dictatorship of the proletariat to come!

  • @camaradamanuel5025

    @camaradamanuel5025

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@Opaso It won't. The system will not change just by action of a tiny CC.

  • @TheTopHatCatShow
    @TheTopHatCatShow2 жыл бұрын

    I honestly can't properly iterate how powerful this documentary was for me. Allende's final speech literally had me in tears and I commend you for including the whole thing. Reminded me that a better world is possible. Massive props to you.

  • @herpaderp3109
    @herpaderp31092 жыл бұрын

    I never leave a comment in this platform, but for this I make a happy exception. Dear PlasticPills, your channel has single-handedly made me more motivated to fight for a better world wherever I can reach, starting with myself and my values, and going onward to every single action I involve myself and others in my daily life. This documentary alone has given me a heap of strength to keep on believing in a better future, since there was before a truly daring and amazing attempt at equality and sovereignty for the people. Thank you for such amazing content, from the comedic analysis of The Bachelor, to this masterpiece of a documentary talking about a moment in history where a good man, in a high position of society such as a president, did all the good deeds he could, and more, for the people he served. All the best to you from a portuguese fan, grateful for all the knowledge you've given.

  • @fakejasonlawless
    @fakejasonlawless2 жыл бұрын

    Oh man this sounds futuristic even by today's standard

  • @LordOmnipraetor
    @LordOmnipraetor2 жыл бұрын

    I don't think anyone has said this on your videos, but I am so immensely thankful that you've put the script into the closed captions. My SO is hard of hearing (uses cochlear implants) and relies much on subtitles for videos. Because of your good work with the closed captions, she can watch most of your videos without problems. I just wanted to say thank you for this small gesture that really helps others follow along with your narration

  • @stevesmith4901
    @stevesmith4901 Жыл бұрын

    The speech by Allende in the end was quite moving.

  • @d3loused
    @d3loused2 ай бұрын

    I’m currently reading “The Chile Project: The story of the Chicago boys and the downfall of Neoliberalism” and you nailed it right on the nose. Great job with this video!

  • @SinbathSparrow
    @SinbathSparrow2 ай бұрын

    I hate that this video has been suppressed. It's an absolute gem

  • @thegrumpypanda1016
    @thegrumpypanda1016 Жыл бұрын

    I'm reading the shock doctrine and what happened to Chile is just heartbreaking.

  • @anacidcommie382
    @anacidcommie3822 жыл бұрын

    Just finished the whole thing. Beautiful work Pills, in every way. The editing, the pacing, the script... all god tier. I actually started crying at the final speech. Thank you.

  • @ben9975
    @ben99752 жыл бұрын

    I have studied this kind of thing for the last 5 years and this is some of the best work I've ever seen done on the subject. Congratulations on pushing us forward

  • @dbmorganizing
    @dbmorganizing7 ай бұрын

    Such an informative and damning piece.

  • @vicentekfdrw4875
    @vicentekfdrw48752 жыл бұрын

    Awesome video. I am chilean and my father was a militant of the christian left and i showed him your vídeo

  • @georg5475
    @georg54752 жыл бұрын

    yoo I saw you keep based on the screen for a little bit longer lmao

  • @JohnTaylor-fh4et
    @JohnTaylor-fh4et2 жыл бұрын

    Plastic Pills, you again knocked it right out of the park. All power, to all the People. We are Revolutionaries. RIP Chairman Fred Hampton.

  • @epicbluerat9999
    @epicbluerat99992 жыл бұрын

    These corporations, the practices of US the government, the fascists in the US, makes me feel disgusted to be a US citizen. Long live the Chileans, long live Allendes legacy.

  • @AL_THOMAS_777

    @AL_THOMAS_777

    2 жыл бұрын

    👍👍👍 . . . all those invoved were so humble and honest (IMHO). . . but there is always a kind of DEVIL who destroys i t . . . . with big "fun" . . . so sad indeed . . .

  • @alexandraa5424
    @alexandraa54242 жыл бұрын

    This is hands down one of the best videos I’ve seen on KZread. The script, editing, visuals… everything is done masterfully. I didn’t want it to end. THIS is the content I came here for. Very eye opening, emotional, and inspiring. We learned about Allende in both my history & Spanish classes, I can say for certain we didn’t learn any of this.

  • @wsethdalton
    @wsethdalton2 жыл бұрын

    Content aside, the editing, graphics and overall post-production value are superb. Incredible you could do this all yourself in such a short time. But the content is even more impressive. I've been listening to General Intellect Unit's Reading Group on Brain of the Firm and, accordingly, this was right up my alley. Your film captures a tragedy, but is indeed a beautiful defense of a "lost cause".

  • @veritas4104
    @veritas41042 жыл бұрын

    It saddens me deeply that this man's sacrifice has gone unnoticed though history.

  • @AL_THOMAS_777

    @AL_THOMAS_777

    2 жыл бұрын

    But this will change s o o n I think. With these wonderful videos !!

  • @zardule
    @zardule8 ай бұрын

    this is mind-blowing. thank you. some of the stuff ever posted on youtube in my view.

  • @georg5475
    @georg54752 жыл бұрын

    damn this got me sad and somewhat hopeful at the same time

  • @JorgeJimenez-mk1gn
    @JorgeJimenez-mk1gn2 жыл бұрын

    Each second I watch, each second my head thinks "The good and honest people always end up losing these dirty wars"

  • @marcelaviviana3215
    @marcelaviviana32152 жыл бұрын

    As a Chilean, I can't thank you enough for this amazing documentary you've made, thank you for showing this part of our history to the world with excellent compilation of evidence and information.

  • @jimmyisawkward
    @jimmyisawkward2 жыл бұрын

    It’s insane that this only has 56k views

  • @mikethespike056

    @mikethespike056

    2 жыл бұрын

    holy shit

  • @AL_THOMAS_777

    @AL_THOMAS_777

    2 жыл бұрын

    Lets have some 24 months and half of the world will see it . . .

  • @lucasdeabreueleuterio9789
    @lucasdeabreueleuterio97892 жыл бұрын

    "Well, I would say that, as long-term institutions, I am totally against dictatorships. But a dictatorship may be a necessary system for a transitional period. At times it is necessary for a country to have, for a time, some form or other of dictatorial power. As you will understand, it is possible for a dictator to govern in a liberal way. And it is also possible for a democracy to govern with a total lack of liberalism. Personally I prefer a liberal dictator to democratic government lacking liberalism. My personal impression - and this is valid for South America - is that in Chile, for example, we will witness a transition from a dictatorial government to a liberal government. And during this transition it may be necessary to maintain certain dictatorial powers, not as something permanent, but as a temporary arrangement." Friedrich Von Hayek, El Mercurio Chile, 1981

  • @smokyondagrass2353

    @smokyondagrass2353

    2 жыл бұрын

    Democracy Is good, as long as it doesn't interfere with the wealthy, or the corrupt. Then it has to go. (Not my thoughts but what he meant)

  • @lucasdeabreueleuterio9789

    @lucasdeabreueleuterio9789

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@smokyondagrass2353 exactly...

  • @jstevinik3261

    @jstevinik3261

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@lucasdeabreueleuterio9789 Hayek is an honest pro-capitalist and proves that facism is capitalism in decay and need for autocracy to defend it from class struggle.

  • @snoa18

    @snoa18

    2 жыл бұрын

    That's exactly what happened. We didn't transition to democracy, just to dictatorship-lite, now with elections. 30 years later after the end of Pinochet's regime, we're barely going toward true democracy and defying the dictatorial powers still at place that have us with political prisoners to this day.

  • @JSSMVCJR2.1

    @JSSMVCJR2.1

    Ай бұрын

    @@snoa18 And Democracy is Socialist?

  • @jackr4507
    @jackr4507 Жыл бұрын

    Idk if you know this but Edward Snowden has seen this, he logged it on letterboxd

  • @notsalty001
    @notsalty0012 жыл бұрын

    Allende's last words always bring me to tears, Viva Chile.

  • @franciselrojo2922
    @franciselrojo29222 жыл бұрын

    Holy hell, this is absolutely gripping..

  • @oliverwhite712
    @oliverwhite7128 ай бұрын

    Absolutely superb.

  • @mohamadraeesi9484
    @mohamadraeesi94842 жыл бұрын

    This story is so similar to the coup against mosadegh in iran by the CIA, Makes me think if cubans or the USSR didn't supress oposition against them what would have happened to all of them. Great Work on the video

  • @mikethespike056
    @mikethespike0562 жыл бұрын

    I had literally NEVER heard of this system... Never, ever. Looks like we're still ruled by those who abolished it.

  • @AL_THOMAS_777

    @AL_THOMAS_777

    2 жыл бұрын

    What do you think my friend ? They are so brutally mighty . . . .

  • @distortiontildeafness

    @distortiontildeafness

    Жыл бұрын

    They don't want us to know. They want to keep us ignorant and make allies look like enemiesb

  • @NO-LIVAS
    @NO-LIVAS7 ай бұрын

    I come back to this video time and time again. I show anyone will listen. The line about why does Amazon operate more efficiently than our own government is a real hook. Genius. If you've contributed even one great thing to society today plastic pills, it's this video right here. Thank you

  • @othaderekhernandezpena2723
    @othaderekhernandezpena27232 жыл бұрын

    Such a masterpiece. Although it’s a tragic story, hearing Allende’s last words gave me hope. A hope that we can and will build a better future. Socialism will win!

  • @aerobique

    @aerobique

    2 жыл бұрын

    heLL yEaH! besides one important thing that might come across as a little shocker at first,: there's no political ism needed [outside of research and history books.. ] nor are "ism's" helpful at this point, at all. Why?because, by default, these historical ism's operate 1. "in system" as polarizing force, a mode of conflict, and 2. they will not in ahundredyears® get normies aka about everyone else on board. but Bold, visionary hope✊ through reason and rationale, from outside of the old ("in-system") Us vs Them infantile antagonistic deathtrap of the past, can. Needed is, yes, great stuff, *"Cybernetics"* ^ Aka a Sustainable/"public health" system-design approach, legitimated and powered not by group vs group political conflict-games - but the scientific method, ✅ done. hopefully : grasp, internalize ..tell the others, ty x

  • @funatish
    @funatish2 жыл бұрын

    you have set a new standard for youtube creators on these political analysis/essays/documentary style videos. I am not joking, this is probably the best put together doc I've seen in a while not just in youtube. the way you contextualized and scripted the whole thing was perfect, when the final allende speech ended i think i even sobbed a bit. being latin american, i could always somewhat relate to the struggles the countries herr faced during the 50s, 60s and 70s, but your work here made me intellectually and emotionally invested in it in a way i didnt expect. thank you. keep doing what u do.

  • @namevilladelangel9557
    @namevilladelangel95572 жыл бұрын

    Great video, but I would have liked it to mention at the end the great transformations chilean people are finally achieving. The chilean uprising was the single most important latin american event from last year, and the constituyente is going great right now, and although maybe Cybersyn hasn't revived, Allende was right, the free people passed through the great avenues once more.

  • @smokyondagrass2353

    @smokyondagrass2353

    2 жыл бұрын

    Cybernetic socialism 2.0 plz do not coup. Also the u.s. a while back sent arms to the Chilean police

  • @camaradamanuel5025

    @camaradamanuel5025

    2 жыл бұрын

    No, the 18O amounted to nothing. There was no revolution, no organization, not even a communist party behind of it all to fully take us to power. The CC was just a resource to try calm down the people, it hasn't worked either. Anyway, the system will be the same, and opression will stay. All thanks to the shitlords politicians we have. Igualmente, el sistema inevitablemente se quebrará de manera ineficiente y desordenada, cayendo en un cáos el cual solo el anarquista promedio podría disfrutar. Han tenido miedo de la verdadera revolución, nos han llamado adoctrinadores o vende humo, ya verán que salga quien salga, Boric, Sichel, Provoste, todo seguirá exáctamente igual.

  • @ZenBen_the_Elder
    @ZenBen_the_Elder Жыл бұрын

    This brought me to tears over the future that we were denied. Have the balls like Allende to hold to the truth when the sh*t hits the fan.

  • @MrNagano00
    @MrNagano002 жыл бұрын

    I used to go to my friend's roof to watch the building where project cybersyn was supposed to operate.

  • @virtuallybeige5597
    @virtuallybeige55972 жыл бұрын

    This is nothing short of incredible. You've gained a lifelong fan for sure. It's so well-constructed, like not only the research that to be done, but the rhetoric, and structure. Bravo!!

  • @burhanhussain8697
    @burhanhussain8697 Жыл бұрын

    I am late but man it so sad to see what happened to Chile. It really hurts knowing that such an amazing system that was there for the people of Chile was sabotaged and ruined by the greed of some bourgeoisie.

  • @ProletarianPower
    @ProletarianPower9 ай бұрын

    Whoever can look at what is possible and say that capitalism is the best we have are horribly confused

  • @tsarXadam
    @tsarXadam22 күн бұрын

    The intro got me emotional, I suspect this video is gonna fuck me up.

  • @Requiredfields2
    @Requiredfields22 жыл бұрын

    39:05 "Make the economy scream." Richard Nixon - this is so fucking twisted and evil.

  • @zadig08
    @zadig082 жыл бұрын

    Was going to have this on in the background during work but, at 3:00 in I can already tell that it's a piece that deserves full attention so I'll have to wait. Thanks in advance!

  • @levn7327
    @levn7327 Жыл бұрын

    Amazing work! Thank you so much for your effort. As a Colombian I feel most of the things here represented so well our fights against the extractive forces of capitalism. We will continue !

  • @keanuclark4833
    @keanuclark48332 жыл бұрын

    This was the most important thing I've ever watch.

  • @Ehelon
    @Ehelon2 жыл бұрын

    This is amazing! The speech part in particular gives me chills. You should post that part separately so you can post it around. Or at least make the part starting at 1:01:01 into a webm or something easily spreadable!

  • @calmao666

    @calmao666

    2 жыл бұрын

    the whole speech of that fatal day is available on youtube(there's an extract read by noam chomsky laying around, really stuff!)

  • @kshproductions7996
    @kshproductions79962 жыл бұрын

    Beautiful work! His final speech decades on still ignites more than ever before the passionate flames of revolution, of a better world.

  • @somnitek
    @somnitek2 жыл бұрын

    Wow. You nailed it, plasticy pilly. This was a masterpiece I instantly want to devise some series of excuses for in order to get other people I know to watch it -- but like actually allowing themselves to be engaged by it, not feeling like they were lightly coerced by some overbearing buddy to watch it, ya know? Really solid.

  • @sparkpoi
    @sparkpoi2 жыл бұрын

    This is fabulous work - thank you so much for doing this tragic story the justice and depth it deserves

  • @rhysjones3038
    @rhysjones30382 жыл бұрын

    Honestly, masterfully well done, watched it several times already.

  • @nighteule
    @nighteule Жыл бұрын

    Wow, so much work put in only for a criminally low view count! Beautiful documentary, thank you :)

  • @tadeoriverosk
    @tadeoriverosk2 жыл бұрын

    A really hard to swallow plastic pill. Amazing video. Thanks for this work.

  • @nigelharvey640
    @nigelharvey6402 жыл бұрын

    26:45 I’m not from Chile. I knew nothing about this. My mind was spinning with the innovative potential for this idea. At that time, after the gun shot, I cried. It hurt so much, because it represents how cannibalistic this world is. Thank you for teaching me about this. I will try to make good use of this in some way that won’t end in me just being killed. You’re doing powerful work man

  • @Clockworkcityofpain
    @Clockworkcityofpain Жыл бұрын

    This should be played everywhere, all the time. I loved it. The quality of your work and research is incredibly. Thank you for taking on this project.

  • @everettworld1765
    @everettworld17652 жыл бұрын

    I haven't heart that, my knowledge of Chile starts with Pinochet and I'm truly disgusted, once again and not surprisingly, by US involvment in independence of other countries to the point that killing, bribing and doing anything necessary to stop other countries from creating anything other than capitalist state, even one country cannot have other state than democratic-liberal.

  • Жыл бұрын

    Im Chilean and this is a secret for many chileans because the majority of my country has pinochet tendencies

  • @neologicalgamer3437
    @neologicalgamer34374 ай бұрын

    I cannot legally express my plans

  • @eerie87
    @eerie872 жыл бұрын

    I’m so glad the algorithm recommended this video. You’ve done an incredible job!

  • @DeathToMockingBirds
    @DeathToMockingBirds2 жыл бұрын

    Gripping account of Allende's rise, the first democratically elected socialist, and the embryonic efforts to computerize the planning of production. It consciously avoided pitfalls demonstrated in the USSR's model, with a bottom-up automated decision system, where central decisions were expected to only happen in case of crysis, from anonymized and aggregated data. The description of how these systems are common today, serving the interests of international corporations, managing millions of employees for the profit of their owners, really brings into focus how the objectives governing our society are skewed against our interests. The book "The People's Republic of WalMart" touches on how it we could change this too.

  • @brandonmiles8174
    @brandonmiles81742 жыл бұрын

    One of the best models from the past that has modern parallels proving something very similar could be a project that would truly be successful for taking the people into a place of prosperity and democratic functionality, if removed from the private sphere.

  • @monitorhead1324
    @monitorhead13242 жыл бұрын

    This, indeed, is my ideal of an upload. Thank you all for your long awaited efforts. I wish I could show my gratitude by at least joining the patreon, but unfortunately I live in Iran (and believe me, I’ve tried) and because of the sanctions, i cannot make ANY oversea transaction.

  • @ananamusly

    @ananamusly

    2 жыл бұрын

    Bitcoin always works 😉

  • @mylesjeffers6148
    @mylesjeffers61482 жыл бұрын

    This is incredible work and I'll be sure to send it around! I'm only 20 minutes in but it's already articulating what seems so obvious to me. Humanity already knows that nature is the master designer; from aeroplane aerodynamics to slime mold railroad systems to enzyme catalysed chemical reactions. The fractal patterns that are repeated all around us in nature should act as a blueprint for us. The government control of society should be analogous to the brain control of the body, it's so simple. Sprituality will lead you to the same conclusion, the answers are already within us

  • @japiro14

    @japiro14

    Жыл бұрын

    The field they're describing is actually "system dynamics" its was developed in the 1950 already. Cybernetics is too wide of a field

  • @NoaManic
    @NoaManic2 жыл бұрын

    If anything Allende is the perfect example of why Reformism can never truly win, never truly create a Social Revolution. Regardless of the good intentions of people like Allende, we must learn from the past and see that this is impossible. Whenever we rely on the existing, Bourgeois framework, we are subjected to it even after "victory" (an election), where the Reactionary Right will violently and brutally rid the country of the new Socialist government. Even today we have seen this in Bolivia for example.

  • @afgor1088

    @afgor1088

    2 жыл бұрын

    the way i see it reformism will exist no matter what we do. even in the USSR there was a period of reform, it wasn't a case of one day private production the next worker ownership through soviet councils there was a gradual if rapid process. so it makes more sense to define revolution as a fundamental change in the system and reform as maintaining the system. from that perspective Allende was undeniably a revolutionary. the reason the revolution failed was because of American dominance, no matter how revolutionary you are you cannot fight off a force that disproportionately strong when it's truly committed, you have no allies & it's on the same continent as you

  • @NoaManic

    @NoaManic

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@afgor1088 That's incorrect. Cuba, despite all its flaws, still defended themselves against an enormously stronger force during the Bay of Pigs and the hundreds of assassination attempts on Castro. The track record is clear: the revolutionaries who understand what Engels said when he talked about how revolutions are inherently authoritarian and violent (although not even close to comparing to the current murderous system) have succeeded way more than those who aim to simply win a Bourgeois election. Why would the Bourgeoisie just let you take over without any resistance? That is very naive and illogical. Workers in Chile were prepared to fight and die on behalf of the Unidad Popular-government, but Allende disarmed them in favour of his reformism, a reformism that cost him, and tens of thousands of Chileans, their lives.

  • @distortiontildeafness
    @distortiontildeafness Жыл бұрын

    Very good. I'm part of the 3rd or 4th generations from the generation if Chileans that got betrayed and slaughtered by the system.. this is a historical lesson that revolution isn't possible and we need to be willing to defend a workers revolution with arms, unfortunately. My grandfather and father both were essentially exiled in fear of possibly disappearing and getting tortured This was well produced , I wish u had gotten into more detail on the workers organizations happening despite the reactionary forces doing everything they could to discourage and sabotage them short of killing and and torturing them. If you want another insightful documentary on chiles social revolution leading and during those years of allendes presidency I highly recommend The Battle of Chile parts 1 2 and 3. A must see

  • @jacobulickij1754
    @jacobulickij17542 жыл бұрын

    the last thing I wanted to see today, in the best way

  • @GraafBerengeur
    @GraafBerengeur9 ай бұрын

    I have tears in my eyes

  • @nopasaran191
    @nopasaran1912 жыл бұрын

    Without a doubt the best KZread video I’ve ever seen. A masterpiece. Bravo.

  • @mothra727
    @mothra7272 жыл бұрын

    ngl cried during allendes speech, pretty good, covers a lot of the same ground as the book "cybernetic revolutionaries", tho it's a little too edgy 4 me if ur making a sequel then I hope you make it on the contemporary cybernetic systems at amazon/mcdonalds/walmart/whatever, like that book "the people's republic of walmart" but 80% less radlib brained and 100% more deluze pilled.

  • @ammanite
    @ammanite2 жыл бұрын

    One of the best documentaries I've ever seen. Thank you so much for creating this. Fantastic work. I'm gonna share it with everyone I know.

  • @Incrediblefatslug
    @Incrediblefatslug2 жыл бұрын

    So this is how the famous Helicopter serial killer rose to power.

  • @ComradeDt
    @ComradeDt Жыл бұрын

    1 year later, only 100k views. Absolutely ridiculous

  • @potter892
    @potter8922 жыл бұрын

    no way you just did that; incredible work I cried

  • @unclassedmedia
    @unclassedmedia2 жыл бұрын

    I needed this. thanks for coming through with it.

  • @andreskreuzburg7232
    @andreskreuzburg7232 Жыл бұрын

    Soy chileno me da pena ver esto. La Historia ya no es nuestra y las hacen las grandes multinacionales

  • @ray5338
    @ray53382 жыл бұрын

    So worth the wait and the pace was really great. Thanks for putting it out there.

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