The best option really is to fail the quest at the start and let Myers die, even Johnny hints towards the fact that V did the right thing by staying out of it.

@Xxsorafan

7 ай бұрын

kurt would have killed songbird before she could escape though after she finished being useful to him

@wilhua3083

7 ай бұрын

@@Xxsorafan indeed, though without doing the DLC, V would have no idea and no investment

@Jakkaribik1

7 ай бұрын

Nah Myers could give you all what you want Power Influence and a Save place out of NC

@gdbalck

6 ай бұрын

@@Jakkaribik1 Myers and Hanako are two sides of the same coin. Nothing she does is without a price or to her gain.

@Jakkaribik1

6 ай бұрын

True Myers seems to be more Welcoming than Hanako what just Speaks Crime Boss with all the Hustlers on the Streets .. Myers in the sense is more Decent because she has Public Resources even normal people could use.. @@gdbalck

Ever since I got the Arasaka ending,I started trusting Johnny more and when he compared NUSA to corporations, I realized we are fighting the same corrupt org with a different skin. Reed is a loyal fool like Goro. Myers is a two faced manipulator like Hanako. Moral the story is never trust any Institution and listen Johnny. I’m glad I sent So Mi to the Moon.

@marine0014

7 ай бұрын

And you send songbird to mr blue eyes… bad ending for songbird too..

@wilhua3083

7 ай бұрын

@@marine0014 she found Mr. Blue Eyes herself. We don't know the motives behind him but if Alt is anything to go off of, not all AI is irrationally cruel and out to kill humanity. We see Mr. Blue Eyes during the Peralez quest, and in the Sun ending, giving V their last job to go to the Crystal palace. I'll take these hopeful outlooks over the definite nightmare that is working with soulsucking govs/corps.

@led5177

7 ай бұрын

never trust a corpor

@folkzombie3248

7 ай бұрын

Lol songbird isn't innocent, she literally lies and tricks you the entire time, misleads you into going on a literal whole mission, risking your life for a small hope of living, and then she takes it away and uses It for herself, she would of never met reed without doing what she did as a net runner, which endangered the lives of all her friends with no regard for them. She agreed to go because of a consequence of her own actions, then she has you help her murder an entire stadium of innocent vendors, including children like Tommie who was helping his dad sell clothes. Then she reveals she tricked you expects you to let her live, and leaves you to die after wasting weeks/months of the short time you have left, if you betray songbird she STILL kills hella people by going cyberpsycho, gets Alex killed, before she did that reed 1000% would of helped her and most likely helped her escape, again if you betray her she still lied and led you on, and at the end she selfishly wants you to become a literal ENEMY of the NUSA and give up your chance to live by killing her, if you dont both your lives get saved and reed keeps close tabs on her and literallly offers v a shot at a normal life since he cant be a merc anymore. People simp so hard for a person because she's a "damsel in distress" and completely ignore the pile of shit songbird drags you through

@viljaminieminen6925

7 ай бұрын

@@folkzombie3248I couldn’t have said it better myself.

All i’m saying is that whatever I chose, this DLC broke me. It’s so well-written but it tore my heart to make whatever choice I made. I got all the possible endings and there wasn’t one I clear cut think should be the de-facto ending. They’re all good and make sense in their own way. The DLC is aptly named, phantom liberty, it rings true.

@HikariSakai

7 ай бұрын

There's an extra Main story ending after doing the DLC btw, one that saves V

@GrandRiserOfficial

5 ай бұрын

WHICH ONE @@HikariSakai

@HikariSakai

5 ай бұрын

@@GrandRiserOfficial make sure you pick to side with Reed and he'll let you get surgical treatment that will save your life permanently but there's a slight catch which I'll let you figure that out. It's not a terrible ending per say, but lets just say most of the people you knew kinda abandoned you for the dumbest reasons tbh.

@ggoddkkiller1342

5 ай бұрын

If we could only convince Reed it wouldn't be so bad! I kept yelling damnit Reed let us pass but nope, stubborn lug doesn't listen..

Not as good as selling Ciri but oh well...

To be fair So Mi is just another V, so I can kinda understand all of her doings. As for Reed, I never understands his stubbornness, if he truly care about Songbird and hate Myers as much as he claims to, then why the hell can't he just let her go and call it a day ?

@xLetalis

8 ай бұрын

She did lie to V the whole time tho

@chriscormac231

8 ай бұрын

@@xLetalis there's a damn good reason the deepest circle of hell is reserved for betrayers

@normaaliihminen722

7 ай бұрын

She is not another V. She manipulated V all the way from the beginning. She promised the cure for V only to use actual V’s muscles to sweeten the odds of her preferred outcome.

@wilhua3083

7 ай бұрын

@@amar-sinalbasri7087 So Mi is just another V, just looking out for themselves. If there was a cure for being used as a personal Blackwall WMD for soulless govs/corps, I'd give the world for Songbird to have it, V can and WILL find another way. Reed on the other hand has already lost all his ideals, the country he's died for no longer exhibits any of the traits he's fought for, just another Goro-like diehard to a corp that doesn't value them, yet still loyal to a fault. The Tower ending is also brutal for all the wrong reasons. In the end you end up just like Reed, everything you fought for and held dear vanishes, including Johnny.

@AdilDIlyas

7 ай бұрын

Yeah Reed doesn't deserve to be killed like that. Wish there was a happier ending, for all parties involved.

Tbh the stubbornness of Reed to give Song to FIA made me more mad than her lying to us the whole time. like why he cares so much about Myers and all that... especially that he said he forgave Songbird for the treason. After that chat 4:00 I was like 'aaigh man frick off'

@gdbalck

6 ай бұрын

Coupled with the fact that Myers forced So Mi to essentially sign his death warrant 7 years prior - yet he serves Myers still. That and his "caring" for So Mi's not real, it is - as she says - merely to make himself feel better about the fucked up choices he's making. She's his great white whale.

The "good" ending where you save Song felt so underdeveloped storywise compared to if you had sided with Reed. I think my preferred ending is when Song dies, Reed rethinks his whole life and ideals, Myers lost, V won't get the cure and Alex dies. No one wins in this game. Personally, based on how I experienced the story. I see Reed as a respectable, loyal and stubborn man who will abide by his promise. But that doesn't mean he couldn't lie to himself. Song on the other hand was quite manipulative and a really damn fine liar. Since the beginning, she has been kind to you and shares so much to you at such a fast rate that it feels... off to me. After I knew that she was the one behind the plane crash, I looked back at how she lied to our faces and how convincing her lie was. That's why I couldn't trust her. Also, she is a very selfish person who would do anything to save her own life. She is far less respectable than Reed but she is more understandable

@gdbalck

6 ай бұрын

Johnny had his number from the start, he saw himself in Reed. He wasn't wrong.

I feel like V having the corpo backstory, along with saving songbird and leaving with panam is the best story and ending to V - much more character development since he went from being a disposable asset for Arasaka to a Nomad, surrounded by family and friends who love him It also seems poetic with Edge runners - V gets vengeance for Rebecca by killing adam smasher and redemption for david by choosing to love someone till the end

@AdilDIlyas

7 ай бұрын

Agreed!

@toragic3432

7 ай бұрын

I agree with you except I feel like don’t fear the reaper ending is still arguably the best ending in cyberpunk. You storm in the most well guarded corp in all of night city and single-handedly take down the strongest (in lore) merc in history. All without sacrificing anyone else.

@kristiyangrigorov5232

7 ай бұрын

​@@toragic3432V doesn't seem happy with this ending tho. At least to me. Literally the nomad ending is the best one imo

@cynicalmemester1694

4 ай бұрын

​@@toragic3432it's a dumb fan fiction ending.

31:23 - V's alerting signal slowly vibes while Mr. Blue Eyes just lurking. When I was on this checkpoint for the first time I thought that was a bug with sound, but later it became clear. CDPR, you're the best!

@gdbalck

6 ай бұрын

Still get chills seeing him up there.

@animegamergeek1427

5 ай бұрын

Where is he?

@InfectiousViper

Ай бұрын

I didn’t even notice that in my playthrough! Wow!

@fantasyandambience

5 күн бұрын

​@@animegamergeek1427 stop exactly at 31:24 top right corner on top of the escalate

@animegamergeek1427

5 күн бұрын

@@fantasyandambience that's crazy 😂

I guess what I like about this DLC is that there are two very different types of people. Those that either side with So Mi, and those that Side with Reed. And honestly? I respect that.

I do understand Songbird, her alternatives were worse than death itself. She was boxed in, she could not trust anyone because everyone sees her as a tool and the only one person that she trusts, Reed, was a broken and loyal lapdog of Myers who absued both for her own end goals. Her actions were not just and you see that she wrestled with her choices throughout the game. If she was really that bad, she would not have told you the truth in the train. Right at the end, she knew what she was saying and gave you the choice over her fate. Girl did not even want to kill Myers and thought she could trust a monster like Hansen. She is too pure for this cruel world and just shows that being honest... does not pay off in Night City. Imo this is the best end. You free Reed from the prison that he is in, save Songbird (probably) and save yourself from a worse fate and most of all, you stick true to your own ideals and make sure that you do not become another Reed.

@shinrugal

8 ай бұрын

I agree completely. Even Johnny said that if he had stayed in the army and not deserted he would've been "just like Reed" which should tell you where Reed's mindset is, also Alex lives in this ending and you get a nice truce with her at her bar.

@ScoopMeisterGeneral

7 ай бұрын

Beautifully put.

@Shupao77

7 ай бұрын

Both characters are really complex and flawed. Pretty well-written both of them. Really hard choice depending on who you resonate with irl.

@viljaminieminen6925

7 ай бұрын

Reason why she did not wanted Myers to be dead is because if she was killed then there is no point of strong arming her to let go songbird go. She has way too much dirt on Myers and if Myers is killed then that dirt becomes as useless as actual dirt.

@sebastian6121

6 ай бұрын

SIMP, songbird was just common net runner who overrate her real skills, V went to blackwall and beyond and came back with no problem because he is a chad

Can't explain why. But sending Song to the moon made me feel really content. It was not a choice I would have made irl, and yes, I was angry when she exposed her lie on the train. But then I shook it off and thought to myself "Alright. Let's finish this." Also, man, refusing to hear Reed out on the bridge *really* makes his final moments much sadder than they have to be. Guy's voice broke with sorrow right before I flatlined him :c

@xLetalis

8 ай бұрын

Yeah the ending of the DLC is pretty well done

@wilhua3083

7 ай бұрын

I would have made the same choice in a heartbeat. V saying they would have helped even if she told us sooner stands true. She's been through more than V can imagine, being used as a personal WMD by a cruel gov(corp), boxed in their cage, she deserves her one shot at believing in what can save herself, V will find another way.

@CrimsonRayne

7 ай бұрын

reed is so broken even after the two years. when you give somi to reed on the shuttle entrance. he said your not who i thought you were. the alternative meant reed dying so somi could live. he expected to die at that bridge... thats what kinda blows my mind. hes dissapointed in V if you gave her up. personally, i think he wanted to end it as long as it meant somi lived. Also 1 bullet was enough to kill Reed? like what?! an NUS top agent flatlined by one bullet. yeah right, he wanted to die

@The_Endless_Now

7 ай бұрын

@@CrimsonRayne "He'll hang himself." -Johnny Silverhand, other ending Great analysis of that bridge scene there, Rayne

I made the decision to side with Songbird the moment Reed and Alex just shot those two french siblings in cold blood even when they were unconscious. That was too fucked up. Reed did not seem like the good guy to me anymore. He also confirmed it at the end when he was willing to kill V in order to give Song in to the FIA instead of trying to save her together. At the end, So Mi fully opened to V and said she does not want to die, unlike Reed who was willing to die in order to give her in to the FIA. Reed had a choice, So Mi didn't. She reached out to V from the very beginning because she needed help and I felt V had to keep his promise. She was the better person and deserved to live more than Reed. For me, this was the most satisfying ending.

@ShinForgotPassxXx

8 ай бұрын

Right at the end it shows how far Reed has strayed from his ideals when he sees killing innocent civilians as just part of his duty. You can see that it is killing him inside bit by bit. He is just another too pure of a person and that is why he can be easily controlled by Myers. I am willing to make an argument that Reed WANTED V to kill him. He is a vet, a top of the line killer with the best implants and skills of the business but he constantly turns his back to you while you have a gun. He could have gone for a boss fight but instead just went for a slow wild west gun draw. I believe that he subconsciously wants someone to put him down because he could never escape this circle and he cannot forgive himself for what he has done and will continue to do.

@jakub_paints6775

8 ай бұрын

This was exactly what I was thinking but was it the right choice?

@esdev92

8 ай бұрын

​@@jakub_paints6775 I believe it was the right decision. Reed had a choice and he chose to side with the FIA, accepting the consequences of it. Songbird had no freedom of choice, others wanted to do it for her. She would die either way (physically or mentally) because of others, which would make it even more tragic. She went through hell in the FIA. So Mi just wanted to escape it all and finally get to live. We don't know for sure if sending her to the Moon actually did help her in the end, but it was her wish and I choose to believe she is well and free now. V has nothing on his conscience either, he did best he could for both Reed and So Mi.

@dra911

7 ай бұрын

Regarding Reed & Alex. Yes, the way the French siblings were executed was shocking - I knew then they were both rotten to the core. But when Songbird revealed her lie, I realised she was just out for herself from the very beginning and wasn't that much differrent to the others - happy to put a complete stranger in harms way. Think about it: Why is her life more important than my own, or the hundreds of others that were squashed on the way to the shuttle? I turned her over and cut a deal. Harsh lessons in this game. With that said, I have not played further than that... It will be interesting to see what happens next. Is Songbird saved to stand trial I wonder? It would be interesting to have a side-quest related to that in the future.

@aameeable

7 ай бұрын

@@dra911 yeah, So Mi did seem selfish for how far she went to keep herself alive but at the same time it is an identical parallel with V, especially if you choose the Corpo lifepath. Then you can understand where she comes from. Just to survive, V was very willing to level anything that came in front of him, from beginning to end. Risking the lives of those around him just to make sure he lives. So Mi has the same mentality. In this sense I think it basically kind of came to the conclusion that as V, it is as if youre looking in a mirror when you see So Mi, so you become the bigger person and send her to the moon.

Bruh I gave Songbird to Reed after I learned that the cure was one-time use. I was sooo pissed off when she said that so I figured there was no point in helping her out anymore.

@RayoSombrio78

4 ай бұрын

Same here. She gave us fake hopes and that is the worst.

I chose to hand Songbird over to Reed purely just for the fact she wasnt honest with V, even after saying she would be honest earlier in the story, she still mislead V and gave him false hope to try and save himself. It's not about the amount of people she's killed to save herself that upsets me, its not the fact she betrayed everyone else around her, its the fact she betrayed the one person she really and truly trusted the whole time that gets me.

@DEViL_X1612

2 ай бұрын

its never about betrayal its about motive of betrayal also V had mikoshi alt herself as help from mikoshi and so mi didnt mislead V. v is fuckin legend andhave cure already alt just need to raid arasaka and V even did that sun ending then how you can say she mislead? if she wanted to free from president of country only V would take fight with president she needed that from us and what in return? just a free life if you get to play cyberpunk with whole map but you cant leave h8 apartment at all do you still prefer to play ? think open dont cry this game started from betrayal from dex so betrayal is not so new thing here reason of betrayal matters

I was all aboard supporting her, but when she said she was the only one who gets cured, i was angry. She kept appealing to my emotions, manipulating me, saying how she trusts me and only me. Screw losing a "girlfriend" if I can live my full life

For me Reed>Songbird, while none of these people are good, V included lol, Reed at least didn't work to fuck me over constantly and actually wanted to help me survive, while songbird by the time I reached the party she still kept spewing obvious bullshit to manipulate me, yeh no thanks, if you are willing to use me to survive, il be sure to do the same. So ended up just getting other ending, it's nice to see that both endings are quite different after u choose to help or betray Reed. + New game ending that comes from handing Songbird over is for me the best written one with the biggest emotional weight to it, hits you in the feels so hard, while V lives on to do whatever.

@kacperperzynski7488

7 ай бұрын

I agree with you, deal with him is solid. In the ending he has some regrets and wants to help V and offers him a job, noone else cared after those 2 years! (Except Vic, but he had no power to do anything). The only thing i miss that they didnt call Panam and tell them that coma is taking longer

Honestly, the Reed/Songbird choice is, for me, probably the hardest choice in any RPG I’ve ever played (and I’ve played a lot). On the one hand, Reed is absolutely and dogmatically beholden to a corrupt government and is a ruthless killer, even though he genuinely want to help Songbird, and despite being the master spy, he is probably one of the most honest characters in the setting. On the other hand you have Songbird, who constantly manipulated you, is a walking WMD, and doesn’t really care who will die if it means she survives, but is only doing this because she was never given a choice other than serve or die, and do you really want someone like Meyers controlling her? And in the middle of this you have V, promised a chance at survival by both parties. Damn, even Johnny admits he has a hard time choosing who to side with, despite being staunchly anti-NUSA. What a well written choice, there’s real-time good one here.

I sided with Reed, it all goes to shit. By the end I decided to respect her decision and kill song so she wouldn't go back to Myers. There really isn't a perfect good ending. Either Alex dies or its Reed or songbird, this game is a masterpiece

I saw a comment from a guy who summed up quite well why I sent Songbird to the moon: "in a world of spies and betrayal, V shows empathy by saving her even after learning of her lie ". I like the idea of ​​making an indifferent gesture and no longer just to get something in return.

@gdbalck

6 ай бұрын

I also had an interaction with Mr. Hands before having to choose where, I am paraphrasing here, Mr. Hands essentially says that people really shouldn't pass judgement. It's akin to passing gas - at best a temporary relief, but repugnant to anyone unlucky enough to witness it.

@DEViL_X1612

2 ай бұрын

commands respect for guy like doing and not expecting anything in return is only those can do who is capable of doing it

at first, i choose to betray So Mi in the spaceport because her betrayal is pissing me off, then i realize that Myers will probably use her again to simply fulfill her whim that can endanger the world and the net decided to reload and sent So Mi to Space but keep choosing the dialogue that makes V sound pissed, but still poor Reed

Song is easily my most favourite character from the whole game. Even her interaction with V is just different. It's like V and Johnny, only difference is that Song is still alive. The understand each other. The fact that she did not tell me the whole truth? Expected. I learned what they forced her to do, how they just abused her for years and years and would continue until there's nothing left. She would have no chance at all. I was with her the whole time and by the end, the decision to ultimately save her and show big middle finger to every other party present came in a heartbeat. Ever since we got what we needed my sole goal was to get her out of the NUS reach ASAP and butcher anybody who dares to disagree. Gave her what nobody ever would - a second chance.

I chose to help Reed bc I believed he really wanted to save So Mi. He had his flaws but he was a good guy at heart. I couldnt betray him, not after So Mi did.

@animegamergeek1427

5 ай бұрын

Same

@cattercrown

5 ай бұрын

it’s the better story line imo and it feels real

well, I usually think that sending Songbird to the moon is a good decision, however you take too many lives for that, innocent lives of those who were simply going to take a trip or were facility staff, staff not armed. Even if you return to the place later, you can see how the victims cry. So well, I feel sad for Reed and happy (if everything works out for her) for Song, but we tend to forget what you did to get there, if you had gotten there without sacrificing innocents it would make it more satisfying and... right for my. I would have liked a happy ending for the two of them, Song and Reed, but at one point Johnny tells us that won't happen :( and sadly its true

For how many side quests factor in whether or not you use non-lethal weapons it is a bummer you can't non-lethally shoot Reed even with a modded gun.

Mister Blue Eyes at 31:24 hiding in plain sight.

I chose this path because betraying So Mi would make the next quest into a horror game and I’m a bitch when it comes to those games. But seriously, I saw it as V’s path to try and save their own skin. Would we as players do the same thing So Mi at a chance to survive from the relic? I didn’t blame her for tricking us into helping. Honestly any path you take is intriguing and I’m glad this DLC was so fleshed out. I honestly might start another playthrough soon

After all the fucked up things songbird did you guys still chose to save her???? Crazy

@isaac3045x

6 ай бұрын

Cant blame guys for simping or can you......

@DEViL_X1612

2 ай бұрын

@@isaac3045x those who dont understand says its simping its not simple answer is motive of fucked up things understanding someones motive is simping then my guys you need some brain to understand things

My first reaction to Songbird's lie was to immediately call Reed, lol. I was always on the side of getting Songbird out (why would I be loyal to the NUSA?) but to be told there was no cure for me at all after all the carnage we had endured... It was just too much. She used V right from the very beginning and we owe her nothing. With that said, I did reload and try the alternative. I'm amazed there was no way to get to Reed, to convince him to let Songbird go. Is he just such a good lapdog, or do they really have something over him?

A long awaited video. Thanks X. Keep it up man

from how I see it. the three of em - myers, so mi, reed, they all manipulated V for self gain. Myers acted like some sort of saint during the start of PL, but then shows her true colors later on. All of her lies were just so you would bring her So Mi, since shes her valuable weapon. Reed wanted "OUT" of his sleeper state, and the way he thought of leaving it is by pleasing his Owner(Myers) like the dog he is. All that crap Reed says about saving So Mi and just simply letting her face the consequences of her actions in a fair trial? They were full blown lies, Reed knew that if So Mi was caught, shed be scrapped and weaponized, which was basically killing her and playing puppet with her brain. So Mi lied to V, about the plane crash, about the cure being 100% effective when in truth it was still in its proto stages, and about it being available for both her and V. So Mi lied and manipulated V throughout the entire game just so she could finally gain the freedom shes always longed for. Basically: Myers lied so she could keep her weapon of mass destruction, a weapon that could touch the destructive power of the blackwall. Reed lied so he could get back to who he was, a dignified and glorified spy for the NUSA. So Mi lied so she could earn her freedom. They were all soooooooo incredibly selfish, if I had the choice to just f off and leave them all to their lying whims. I would've done so, but I couldn't so instead I chose to help So Mi, simply because she's the only one to confess about her manipulation - 34:58 .

Doing this at level 31 is crazy

That moment when she tells you you are a two faced snake ☠️ Bruh you are doing the same

As much as I like Idris Elba... So Mi was my personal Lucy, so I had to kill him and send her to the moon. For me, it was by far the best ending of Cyberpunk overall. We may die anyway, later on, but we at least made sure to save her.

Спасибо за подробное прохождение!

Man this dlc is really tough, it plays with your feelings and perspective, theres no really the good or bad or perfect ending, everything imo is dependent on your own perspective. On ny first playthrough, i chose to betray somi as i have mixed feelings about her and reed keep his priorities straight eventhough sometimes its very unexpected imo, then i kill songbird at the end knowing all about her memories and suffering its best if she free from all of those after all thats what she asked for right? I respect her and imo it comes a good perspective for me, saving song mi means you let her be used again by myers and NUSA, killing song mi, in the end reed finally realized and said "i have nothing to lose" well he can finally start a peaceful life. Finally looking at all the endings, i really think theres no ideal or best ending. It really comes down to your perspective and what choices you have to make for the sake of these guys.

My own opinion I think killing Reed and sending Songbird to the moon was the best ending for me. Reed was always struggling with what he had to do but never stopped kept being a loyal hound to Myers even after she tried to have him killed. So killing him was a mercy. And I never felt betrayed by Songbird, a drowning man will always grab someone and bring them down with him. Desperation. I'm happy ending with Judy and the nomads. And Alex gets to live.

@wilhua3083

7 ай бұрын

Indeed, Reed already lost all his ideals but seems to cling onto saving Song as an atonement for all he's wronged, but in the end still acts on FIA's behalf. Song deserves her one chance at saving herself even at the detriment of V after all she's fought for, V can and WILL find another way, a better way.

@gdbalck

6 ай бұрын

@@wilhua3083 it's almost as if, from the way he talks about her and his actions, so long as she is alive then all the fucked up shit he's ever done is alright - even if that means she's condemned to a hellish existence worse than death - one she'd rather die than submit too. Can't see him in a positive light.

It is quit an impressive traid from Songbird to tell V the truth about the cure at the end. She had no reason too and V could have betrayed her. She did really trust him. She is a traitor and a killer like anyone else but still more innocent minded then others.

@cornpop838

6 ай бұрын

“Innocent minded” > casually kills a stadium full of people so she could live while lying to literally all parties involved > ok

@walkertalker3232

6 ай бұрын

@@cornpop838 lol cry dude

@PandoraWolveCrow

5 ай бұрын

@@cornpop838 that's exactly what happens to V since the beginning game. So.... Min so and V are same and in a same boat..... They just want to live no matters what

@animegamergeek1427

5 ай бұрын

​@@walkertalker3232 How's that crying when it's the truth? 😂 She neutralizes a stadium for her survival, but people cry about Reed & Alex neutralizing the twins in order to get in & rescue her

@walkertalker3232

5 ай бұрын

@@animegamergeek1427 cry

What happens to Alex if you help Songbird escapes, but then give her to reed at the spaceport? I know she lives but does she contact you afterwards like Reeds does? Just seems like she disappeared 😕

@xLetalis

5 ай бұрын

I don't think I heard of her again ;[

@urfriendlyfboi6748

4 ай бұрын

​@@xLetalisWhen you send the songbird to the moon, she contacts you after two or three weeks from a unknown number and tells you to go to her favorite spot where you find a souvenir from the moon and a ripperdoc stuff. So she lives and watches you and the cure worked

wow i didnt know you could shot him in the chest like that wonder if you shoot his gun Reed can survive?

V casually climbing on reeds car ... imagine reeds reaction...

Damn, handing her over and asking for nothing left Johnny speechless!

i betrayed Reed but at the end i gave Songbird to him because i truly believe he wants to help her and also he promised a cure for me

I found a secret when you call reed are numbers in the wall if you call you can hear a melody and a interaction and one is awesome. idk if you talk abaut that

I gave songbird to reed after she told me about matrix, i wanted to live for panam and aldecados. Also whatever shit reed done at least he didnt betray me, i kinda needed a person that i could trust. Previously he got "killed" for his team. There are no good/bad characters. Also reed said that songbird would be a chess player that has brilliant moves and despite that tragic losses, as a chess player myself that got me 😅

Hey! If you ever make a video about Easter eggs in Phantom Liberty, I'm playing it now, and when you get to Dogtown, on your way to the crash site you hear someone speaking polish. If you go there it's Michal Kincinski and Marcin Iwinski, and if you don't know who they are I'm not your friend anymore :)

They way I see it is that Phantom Liberty isn't your story (V), its Songbirds. You two are the same people, with the same goals. Hence why she reached out, she is desperate and had no friends. Her story ends with your help or lack thereof, either free to the Moon or becoming brain in a jar. Yours end with the help of your friends in Arasaka tower. And from my POV even with all the lies and manipulation; that caged bird should go free and get one more chance in life.

Put her on the Moonrocket. You know why? First, because she told me the truth: she could have kept it hidden from V, but she took the risk and told me that the cure was single use. She put her life in my hands. Do you know how crazy it is? Sure, she could have told me sooner, but can you blame her for having serious trust issues when her whole life consisted of "who will exploit me next" episodes. Second, she reminded me of a certain Lucy Kushinada from "Edgerunners." Doing the same was... poetically resonant. I did not take her to the Moon, but, in a way, I was there with her. Like David, V stayed behind to become a legend. And Johnny was finally not sneering at my decision.

I was quite unsure which way I'd go. But I just couldn't betray So Mi. But when that phone call from Reed came, I was like shit I'm going all the way, fuck NUSA.

Shooting reed in the head is way more cinematic.

People in the comments comparing Myers to The Arasaka’s are clueless. The worst thing Myers did was mess with the black wall, whereas Saburo built as prison for people’s conscience. People are willingly singing their future away in the hopes they will be able to beat death. On top of the engram being manipulated whoever the owners want, the people pay Eddie’s for that privilege. NUSA versus Arasaka is just another version of the Cold War, we know who won the Cold War, right? Even Yorinobu rebelled against his father, he knew. Alas, I’m siding with the NUSA.

The FIA Clinic is way better than Arasaka on the moon. The FIA war able to safe my life, but the devil ending on the moon was not able. By the way: The FIA Clinic mirrored a part of my past, so I was really shocked during playing when happened what happened..

I felt like its the right thing to do to help free her and help her escape to the moon because if she were to go back with reed she would ended up being a slave to the government again and they are clearly bad guys, you can tell it from how Myers acts that she is not a good person and only wants to advance her own agendas and so even if i have to end up killing Reed i will always chose to help So Mi. Also the alternative mission is scary as shit and no way im doing that again more than once lol

I think sending So Mi to the Moon, even after she betrays you, and even if she's stepping woefully underprepared into Blue Eyes' world, is still the best outcome. I'll be damned if I'm sell my soul to Arasaka for a "cure", why should I sell So Mi's to the NUSA and Militech for a two year coma and a guaranteed visit from the feds when they'll inevitably need more "assets" for whatever project they're cooking up. So Mi gets to now live with the consequences she's brought upon herself, hopefully she can use that experience to not make the same mistake with Blue Eyes' plot. The idea of putting So Mi down in the Reed ending as a "Greater Good" is also too _corp_ sounding of an idea for me to get behind, I'd rather fight for some small amounts of tangible good than try to make myself above it all for a "greater good."

Is it just my impression or Song and Reed relationship is a skewed version of Ciri and Geralt? A gifted child everyone fights for and wants to use, and her mentor. Reed fails though because the system was skewed and unfair from the start. What is left is selling Ciri to the Emperor for the sake of principles.

If you give up Songbird, do we ever find out if she is saved by Reed and the NUSA scientists to stand trial? There could be a side mission to get her out of a prison sentence or (presumably) a death sentence!

@kelley1083

7 ай бұрын

No, Reed tells V he's not in contact with her anymore

@dra911

7 ай бұрын

Yep, I finally played it through. He implies she goes back to work though... Maybe an idea for the next DLC update!

I did save her and exported her to the FIA she should not get off easy for all the Pain she could do in the Future. She seems like the one who only cares about her own well being.

I gave her back to Reed and walked away. Ive been fucked over like that irl.

why are the rest of cyberpunk netrunners so bad compared to V?, he literally reintegrated an AI demigod (delamain) from his multiple parts and created the perfect AI (delamain dad) while so mi is supposed to be the best netrunner but yet don't know how to do it.

Space is pure freedom So Mi

@xLetalis

8 ай бұрын

or death along the way...

@killmonger5097

8 ай бұрын

@@xLetalis she’ll make it 😭 I just hope Mr. Blue eyes doesn’t screw her over

@TheGrace020

8 ай бұрын

😭GOES HARD

@hellcat1401

8 ай бұрын

​@@killmonger5097You can't trust AI. And sadly our world Irl is starting to trust AI.

Which graphic settings you are using?

@xLetalis

5 ай бұрын

I think everything except for a few settings are maxed, and ray tracing is completely off

I just revisited this DLC and for sure this ending maybe the best ending. Look hear me out first of all Alex didn't die which the other ending is Second this ending unlock the DLC ending for main Quest which was also best ending for main quest too Third you'll have more info for the NSU just like NC Corp one But if you prefer the Character arc/past/info choose the other one And last i like action shooting and SIMP so yeah :D

♥️

@TheGrace020

8 ай бұрын

Based Exysa existing 😎

The PL ènding suck its just like the suicide ending it got no closure at all. V just betray Johnny after all they been thru also him and Johnny didn't even get to kill Adam Smasher so this whole ending is incomplete... me i gave songbird up cause she is a liar a traitor, and the Hansan bossfight and the Maxtac bossfight were badass cant get them if i dont ""betray""her didnt take the cure end with the Rogue ending or the aldercaldos these are my 2 favorites

@The93Momo93

7 ай бұрын

if you do his side missions you will have a very peaceful parting with Johnny, he won't hold getting the cure against you

I tried 7 different times to kill Reed and in each option he always killed me, I was crying so hard but I had to give So Mi away. I was so pissed to learn you could actually pull the trigger and help So Mi. That's what I wanted to do all along. There should be a side note though, it may seem like you're helping So Mi but you're potentially letting her face a far worse outcome. The game hints that Blue Eyes is the one that bought So Mi's ticket and he's the one that's going to "experiment" on her. So it may seem like she's free whereas she also may not. Still though, I'd hate to give her to the FIA for them to use her as a guinea pig for god knows how long. There were 2 crucial moments that led me to side with So Mi, the first one is Reed's mystery stubbornness to both staying loyal to the FIA and trying to help So Mi at the same time. I decided that he might only want to help So Mi for himself, for feeling guilty and nothing else. He really is a mysterious and well-written character. The second moment was when Reed and Alex killed the two twins for basically nothing. I was soo shocked and speechless. I know the twins were criminals as well but they really didn't need to kill them. It gave me strange vibes and made me think that Reed is just addicted to his "mission". For the record, I was sceptical and distant with So Mi throughout the whole game and even Misty hints that I should stay away or not trust the person I meet right next to the person of a certain tarot card (I don't remember what was called but it was at the beginning of the game where you meet with So Mi) so against all odds, I decided I want to help her and by the time I learned that she lied to me this whole time, I was already crying so hard and was just focused on saving her no matter what. Overall, this expansion was truly incredible and CDPR really showed what they're capable of.

Do you get a cure if you make the deal with Reed? The video doesnt show it.

@xLetalis

6 ай бұрын

yes

Bro this is way more fun to play than that garbage ass Alien Isolation mission. Holy shit.

I only sides with rees for alex

Morally I think the best option to fully help Songbird and do what she asks to do, at least I felt the best while helping. Also fuck them Corpos and NUSA

IMO the best ending in PL is to send Songbird into the moon just like what david did edgerunners

Saving Song So Mi is the right choice, Reed isn't going to save So Mi, he's going to give her to Rosalind Myers a War Criminal and to Myers, Song is a thing, a possession a weapon of mass destruction. If you dont seperate Song from The NUSA, they'll kickstart a technological darkage! NUSA would have her poke at the Blackwall till the Blackwall breaks and the Wild AIs in the original Net are released at which point anyone & anything connected to the net will be instantly dead... talking millions and the end of everything in the world!

I betrayed her at that point, I mean she betrayed us first so she gets what she deserves lol

@xLetalis

8 ай бұрын

yeah, she quite literally lied to you the whole time

@willbaggiins9441

7 ай бұрын

Exactly

@josephrolli3909

7 ай бұрын

@@xLetalis As does Reed. Only he's lying on behalf his duty of Myers, not for his own survival. Turning in songbird in validates her (understandable given her life is at stake) assumption that lying was the correct course.