Cyberdemon vs 10 Arachnotrons - Monster Infighting - Doom II Retro Battles
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Multiple Doom II battles between the Cyberdemon and 10 Arachnotrons, each with different variations such as numbers and difficulty level. Same monster infighting and Nightmare respawns is disabled.
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Doom Retro Battles involves several Doom and Doom 2 battles, a fight club or battle simulator of sorts, between various units and unit compositions, each with different variations such as weapons, numbers, difficulty levels like Ultra-Violence and Nightmare, etc.
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8:53 Arachnotron with PTSD after being the only survivor of its platoon.
Imagine if the Arachnotrons' plasma gun had the same rate of fire as that of Doomguy's...
@karllykos
Жыл бұрын
I think that’s how it is with Doom 64 - they have double the firepower, and the plasma rifle that you use seems to have been slowed down considerably.
@DinnerForkTongue
Жыл бұрын
I tried it. Made most levels downright unplayable.
9:06 this is such an incredible visual spectacle
@darkpawdingo5331
Жыл бұрын
It is like one of those things that show random patterns to swinging objects. So crazy the amount of firepower the Arachnotrons can put downrange.
When I played the Doom games as a kid I was obsessed with getting monsters to fight each other but it was often such a pain in the ass to setup the fights. I even tried to figure out how to make my own levels but wasn't able to figure it out. Even today when playing Doom 64 I like to try and get monsters to infight just to observe. This channel is like a dream!
@UnUsuarioSinNombre
Жыл бұрын
Have you tried binding keys? Try to put in the doom console bind (any key) "summon (any monster)" With that, you'll be able to summon monsters quickly and without opening the console constantly.
That concentrated plasma from the Arachnids on nightmare is no joke
"Throw any bullet hell challenge my way and I can manage" 11:45
11:46 Arachnotron: team up the Cyberdemon #14 ? The other 99 arachnotrons: *team up Cyberdemon #14*
The Arachnotrons just melting Cyberdemons at Nightmare stats
Nightmare is no joke. If the barrage comes in, it comes in. No questions asked. No answers given.
@normanred9212
Жыл бұрын
Unless you know this one, you can use decorative objects like Torches Lamps etc to hide behind and all projectile attacks will be blocked while Hitscan goes through them
@DinnerForkTongue
Жыл бұрын
@@normanred9212 Not in vanilla Doom, and not with the correct compatibility flags enabled. Decorations are only obstacles to actor movement, they do jack against projectiles.
6:43 very satisfying to see the plasma bolts fire in currents like this. interesting also that they tend to zero in on the same target with some exceptions. good to see two of Doom's best projectile snipers battle
Doom II: Bullet Hell on Earth
It's sad how much more of a threat the arachnotrons are compared to the spider masterminds. I like how these videos are progressing
@cwp24
Жыл бұрын
They will always dominate in numbers
@DinnerForkTongue
Жыл бұрын
Luckily there are ways to tweak the Spiderdemon and make her an absolute menace. No need to add projectiles or flight or nothing, all you need is to decrease her reaction time from the insane half-second (15 tics!) that, I should add, repeats every single time she gets a pain state.
@1StIwY1
Жыл бұрын
My exact though, Spiderdemon equipped with that clunky minigun, while these arachnotrons have a way effective weapons.
@adambrown6669
Жыл бұрын
To other monsters at long range and in numbers sure, but vs. the player the mastermind is more of a threat, it's pretty easy to dodge an arachnotrons projectiles but impossible to dodge a wall of hitscan.
@showsjohn
11 ай бұрын
Problem for mastermind is how easy it is for an enemy to break its attack. It's got a huge, clunky hitbox
This to me proves the Cyberdemon and Spider Mastermind both need energy resistance, lower pain chance, and secondary attacks
@adambrown6669
Жыл бұрын
They are both resistant to explosive damage, pain chance is ok as is given how fast they can kill a player but a secondary attack wouldn't be too bad, maybe a chance for the cyberdemon to fire a homing rocket with weaker homing than the revenant, and the spider mastermind could get some telekinesis type thing wherein it periodically marks you like the arch vile and whilst marked its rounds are much much more accurate, and then give them both massive damage melee attacks, something like the bosses from Duke nukem so if a player gets too close they die
@DinnerForkTongue
Жыл бұрын
No, there's nothing wrong with the passive stats of either boss demon. The only thing the Spiderdemon needs is a shorter reaction time. Cybie is super well balanced in all areas already.
0:03 Arachnotrons: "Okay, we got 'em now!.. er.. FRED! GET OUT OF THE WAY! YOU'RE BLOCKING OUR SHOTS!"
What I find really interesting is the way the Arachnotrons concentrate their fire upon a single target. You can see it even with the Ultra Violence stats. They seem to all choose the same target. Compared to the other monsters, they seem to show the most coordination.
@DinnerForkTongue
Жыл бұрын
That's because of AI routines and the limited RNG.
@mikosoft
10 ай бұрын
The enemies are numbered internally so they just go up the list each time they kill something
Haha, I just found this channel yesterday evening and after watching some "battles" I thought cyberdemon vs arachnotrons would be cool, and here it is :D.
There is a lot of friendly fire on the cyberdemon side. I guess because the arachnotrons have bigger brains. Love these vids!
One day. One day we need a mega huge map, pick four monster categories, spam 100 of them each onto said map, and watch the chaos while sipping a beer.
Should do a health bar mod, so each enemy has a bar, and we can watch it deplete from fire/plasma onslaught.
@Bagheera2
Жыл бұрын
This
@gretzelschnitke5108
Жыл бұрын
Поддерживаю. Можно общее здоровье сделать у обеих групп вверху экрана. Так же бы предложил ввести и битвы трех групп разных.
@anthonymentalewicz5143
Жыл бұрын
No
@bleach186
Жыл бұрын
@@anthonymentalewicz5143 why?
Don't know why but this is quite satisfying to see. 👍
Аж жалко в конце кибер демонов стало. Окружили со всех сторон. Отличный канал и битвы. Делай дальше - я посмотрел все видео. По думу вообще огонь. Можешь и другие части игр попробовать. Так же порекомендую канал и видео всем знакомым. И предложу попробовать организовать битвы трех групп.
That "BWAH BWAH BWAH BWAH" plasma sound of the Arachnotrons is permanently engrained in my nightmares.
What we can take away from this is that a fully upgraded unmaker harnesses the power of roughly 100 arachnotrons.
@DinnerForkTongue
Жыл бұрын
So a BFG is the power of 200 Arachnotrons?
crazy light show i liked it.
That was fun.
Imagine the same battles with the DOOM 64 versions of these monsters. The Cybers AND your computer would be squashed.
What a carnage!
The concentrated fire on nightmare is impressive!
Aaah those mechanical lil devils! On nightmare skill, the Demon didn't even manage to come closer!
Little critters did better than I thought. That mass-plasma death rain is quite the sight!
@DinnerForkTongue
Жыл бұрын
Arachnotrons are a huge threat to anything that can't proactively dodge plasma bolts.
whats more scary is that NM arachnotrons DON'T waste time kill staggering one target unlike the UV stats where they just scatter targets
cyberdemon luckily just takes cover behind all the arahcnotrons
I didn't expect the nightmare ai to work so strongly against the cyberdemon since he didn't move around at all and have the arachnotrons body block each other's shots.
Great
So many deactivations😮
Big Bois vs. Electronic Spiders
In the last fight they were able to kill like 4 cybers almost at the same time at the beginning
Arachnotrons on Nightmare: You ever hear about this game called Touhou? Goes a little something like this.
Can different assets from different games be tested? Pej: Doom 2 vs Doom 64 Arachnotrons?
젤 좋아하는 배경음악입니다
Cyberdemon: Doonguy, may I barrow your plasma rifle?? I need 2 of that. Both CD and Arachnotrons had bigger size. In UV difficult, they'd like to move around, but may block their own teammates fire; in NM difficult, Arachnotrons didn't moved, most of them can firing freely.
Arachnotrons in the middle and cyber demons around please.
if it weren't for the burst 3 shot overshoots. he would be a bit more dangerous
Arachnotrons have such cute baby blue eyes! 🥰🥰🥰
Seeing the cyberdemon die makes me extremely sad
Don't move. Just spray.
Always hated to meet the spider-tron... here's why
Mother Demon vs Cyberdemon
Minotaur vs Spiders
Placement could make a world of difference, I'm not complaining just saying
Just the mob I was curious about which brings me to my question, nothing to do with the fight but how much damage does the Arachnotrons plasma it shoots do? Does it do more than the DOOM guys Plasma Rifle? Or equal? Or less? I always thought it might be more powerful than the DOOM guys Plasma Rifle
@Sicklxy
Жыл бұрын
they’re the same. 5-40 Damage.
@marklarz4399
Жыл бұрын
Same damage, but Arachnotron's have slower rate of fire
@Shadowtrooper09
Жыл бұрын
@@Sicklxy that’s cool now I don’t know about you but I thought that would be cool if we could use their Plasma and not just the DOOM guys, cause why not either use green or blue that’d be sick I know there’s a mod Brutal DOOM that let’s you rip the Revenants Rocket Launcher off and use it and the Mancubus Flame Cannon too and let’s say you get 50Plasma Energy to use, this doesn’t have to be like a helpful game changer or anything I thought it would just be cool though you would get more ammo from the Arachnotrons along with the Plasma Cells and boxes full of Plasma
@darkpawdingo5331
Жыл бұрын
A guy to look up for some really cool DOOM info is Decino. He does all kinds of analysis videos on DOOM, from the original to DOOM64 and beyond.
@darkmarine23
Жыл бұрын
@@darkpawdingo5331 I've watched a few of his videos and now I'm curious about how he would analyze these fights, especially the archvile fights.
nightmare is where the amount matters
The problem with these sustained attack enemies is they don't have the sense to move around and get a clear shot. Chaingunners are even worse, because they end up killing each other and thinning their own ranks.
Bit unfair to put the cybers in the center without also putting them on the outside for comparison. Whoever's in the center gets wrecked
@mendaliv
Жыл бұрын
A big part of it is that the cybers, especially at distance, pump way more rockets at an arachno than is needed to kill it and only retarget once it’s actually dead. On nightmare because a lot of the cybers don’t get aggroed by different arachnos they keep iterating to the same next enemy. By the time they’re all targeting different ones and spreading out their fire they’re pretty much dead. Also because nobody’s really moving the cyber’s splash damage is basically useless. But even if that were addressed the arachnotron is just too damn powerful.
UV, too frequent cases of Arachnotrons getting in the way of their own kind's fire that cost them the majority of their matches. Nightmare, more aggressive Arachnotron firing was too much for Cyberdemons to handle.
Aracnatron the real threat
see, when they attack from range, they do much better. if they just charge at him he hits them with a full rocket salvo and they block eachother's shots!
plasma gun is busted af
a bit biased towards arachnatrons, this one. they're spread out, so they don't take any splash, and they're far away, so cyberdemons overkill a LOT, plus they all have a clear line of sight with their target. later on they even start with a surround from even further away. that's their ideal scenario
max 360p quality lol
@joshuasharrock466
Жыл бұрын
Try reloading the Max for me is 1440P
LEARN HOW TO STRAFE!!