Damn, the guy who still had the presence of mind while ON FIRE to think of an escape plan that wouldn't kill him outright was a true pimp. Good for him.

@unusualbydefault

4 жыл бұрын

not sure if he'd do the same again after what awaited him in hospital

@bens3509

4 жыл бұрын

I cant even imagine wtf he went through bro

@13orrax

2 жыл бұрын

IMAGINE THE SMELL sdorry caps

@tenthdimension9836

2 жыл бұрын

@@13orrax you couldn't hit the back key on your keyboard? It was easier to write sorry? Dummy!!!

@cliveramsbotty6077

2 жыл бұрын

@@unusualbydefault agreed. in my head i always think 'great the person survived' but then i consider how utterly devastating it can be to a person's life when dealing with major injury and trauma... i hope the quick thinking worker has made it through the horror.

"Florida law does not require state or local governments to provide public employees with safety training, or to comply with OSHA safety standards." Ok so Florida is basically saying that public employees are expendable. Nice.

@artgoat

5 жыл бұрын

That was Jeb Bush fulfilling his promise to reduce the cost of government, by skimping on training and safety for public employees.

@blackhawkorg

5 жыл бұрын

They made themselves expendable by not using common sense. You are responsible for all your actions when governed by the laws of physics. One sniff of that tank should have told them all they needed to know. Never assume anything...

@gkess7106

5 жыл бұрын

Thanks Republicans, for smaller governments.

@TaintedMojo

5 жыл бұрын

Thanks to the republicans, Florida is a bit of a third world shithole

@roryjones95

5 жыл бұрын

@@blackhawkorg common sense can only be applied with proper knowledge of your work environment

I'm a HVAC technician and the state of Florida is aware of the effect of corrosion on condenser AC coils due to salt in the air. No excuse that the flame arrester should not be prone to corrosion also. This job was death waiting to happen.

Kudos to CSB. At least there is one agency that does its job transparently and well.

@iorfidaskye

5 жыл бұрын

Shit. 11 years ago? Are you still alive?

@IslamDueren

5 жыл бұрын

Lol

@johnballs1352

4 жыл бұрын

@@iorfidaskye Shit. Arbitrary amount of time. Are you still alive?

@obamagaming6642

3 жыл бұрын

@@johnballs1352 Shit. Interminable passage of circumstances. Are you still alive?

@mercoid

3 жыл бұрын

@Lazys The Dank Engineer ... Their job is to investigate and report. The reports are there to inform the public AND our elected officials. The problem is our public is too apathetic to care and our politicians are too corrupt to do anything about it. Any “power” the work of the CSB that can be brought to bare, is in our hands. They are an invaluable source of discovery and information.

Even with a good flame arrestor the PVC and hot work can be a real problem. All it takes is one hot chunk to land on the PVC pipe.

This is just like a final destination scene. Quite scary...

@drrisen-9442

3 жыл бұрын

Most of the stuff CSB produces is.

@ferdrewflores3014

3 жыл бұрын

It was FNL dd ! 😌😔😣😫😵😵😵🥶

Most of these accident can be linked to those who claim to be in charge. Management seldom knows anything about work being done. They only think in dollars.

@GigsVT

4 жыл бұрын

this was the government.

@redmudpei

4 жыл бұрын

@@GigsVT even worse, they don't think about anything

@samneal7679

3 жыл бұрын

Oh, they know more than you think. They just don't have an invested interest in the consequences, because 1) it's not profitable to do so, and 2) they are not the ones rolling the dice with their lives and health.

@ZelosZelo

3 жыл бұрын

yup..I lived there for a while, everything is about the $$$, do it as cheap as possible, fast as possible and thats all the project managers worry about. So the contractors underbid jobs, cut corners to save money and cost worker and civilian lives on many, many occasions.

@FarnhamJ07

3 жыл бұрын

​@@ZelosZelo Yep. It doesn't matter if it's business or government; money makes the world go round. The state has just as much reason to cheap out on safety - the less they spend on 'boring' stuff like that, the more they can spend on cool new shiny toys, or just siphon out for themselves. Politicians aren't corrupt just for the hell of it!

What they should have told you: "Methanol burns with a clear flame, but is colored orange here for illustration."

Funny how this year (2021) EXACTLY this same accident involving the same sort of tank filled with methanol at a waste water treatment plant happened in the UK 🇬🇧. Amazing how industries don't learn from each others mistakes.

In heaven: "I died of methanol." "Have you drank it?" "No, it ignited....."

Well that escalated quickly! R.I.P. to those who died that day and I wish well to any whom survived that tragedy that could have been avoided

And what did Florida do in the wake of such a deadly accident? They ignored the CSB's recommendations and still offer no legal protection to it's public workers. This just goes to show you that what's good for the goose is not good for the gander.

They were using a torch above a RACING FUEL TANK. How does one ignore maintenance on something called a "flame arrestor"? They used PVC pipe. I'm at a loss for words.

@raymondleggs5508

5 жыл бұрын

The flame arrestor was rotten and basically wasn't there

@artgoat

5 жыл бұрын

It's interesting that they knew enough to install a flame arrestor, but not enough to realize that the aluminum flame arrestor was incompatible with the methanol. It's like well-intentioned people who use galvanized pipe for propane, because they're not aware that propane attacks zinc.

@Dutch3DMaster

5 жыл бұрын

@superdrummergaming: A couple of years a go a huge fire started at a chemical company (ChemiePack) in Moerdijk, The Netherlands after someone had gotten the task of "defrosting" a pump used to pump over a highly flammable chemical with a gas torch. That day the torch ignited the fuel and caused a small fire that soon spreaded to storage containers containing much more of the same liquid and other liquids that (again, against safety regulations) were stored at an open space of the terrain instead of in specially assigned storage spaces with oxygen-removing fire-suppressing systems that could be activated in case of a fire. Investigation later turned out the "defrosting" process had grown to be common practice (against all safety regulations) at the company, but it was mainly the storage of the same very flammable chemical on the open space that caused the fire to get out of hand quickly. When the first employee reported the fire at the fire department she was clearly not informed well enough and only mentioned there was a fire at their company, which, according to the reaction of person on the telephone at the fire department was perceived to be a small fire. A second employee who called maybe just a minute later (when security camera footage synchronized with the calls showing the fire already getting totally out of control) was able to mention the location on the terrain of the company where the fire was at that time, but was (because of not following safety regulations) unable to tell the fire department what they stored there (and thus, if they could use water or not, which it turned out they should not have used because the chemical was lighter than water and floated on top of it, either washing away unburned or burning on top of the water). Some small waterways around the facility turned an awful kind of red in the following days after the accident, indicating some chemicals had leaked into the surface water. There are mistakes being made everywhere as soon as regulations are being ignored, unfortunately.

@Kuzyapso

4 жыл бұрын

@@Dutch3DMaster what are your recommendations?

@frankvandendool882

3 жыл бұрын

@@Dutch3DMaster I was there that day. Working in the steel recycling company across the road. That was the biggest campfire I've ever seen! The next day all the little canals in the industrial area were all kind of colors. Unbelievable how stupid some people can be. Chemiepack was known to don't care about safety rules.

Thank you USCSB for educating us all!

I'm having a hard time believing, that the City didn't know about the tanks, needing to be inspected regularly.

Waste water and exploding are two things I never wanted to see in the same sentence

@adrianhenle

2 жыл бұрын

Yet that is the reality in which my toilet exists every day.

Damn, we have a Waste Water Treatment facility in our Fire District, when I was a Firefighter I always cringed when we got a call for there. Thankfully nothin too serious the Managers and Workers do a good job of mitigating any big accidents. NFPA is basically a guideline but....you ever go to Court concerning NFPA those guidelines hold up as laws.

I love watching thease videos you can learn so much my heart does go out to the ones who lost their lives

Respect to the guy who survived

@noelcosgrave113

4 жыл бұрын

And RIP to the two who didn't.

@mattlogue1300

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah bad way to die

@haruhisuzumiya6650

Жыл бұрын

Quick thinking saved his life

amazing that the tank itself was essentially intact. that would’ve been gnarly shrapnel

What is the scariest thing about methonol not only is it highly toxic but burns with clear flame.

@peterolsen269

2 жыл бұрын

I don't know where you get these ideas? Methanol is like Isopropanol and Ethanol. One is used on cuts and abrasions and the other is what is in Vodka. Methanol is not highly toxic as long as you don't drink it. We used it in Aviation for several things, it's not even really that volatile compared to other flammable liquids such as MEK or Acetone. People are getting this stuff confused with Nitro Methane which is for "top fuel" dragsters.

@adrianhenle

2 жыл бұрын

@@peterolsen269 Incorrect. Methanol is toxic by skin exposure and vapor inhalation. The NIOSH exposure limit is about 1/5th of a teaspoon skin exposure. It also forms explosive mixtures with air at room temperature. Nitromethane is more poisonous and chemically reactive, but that doesn't make methanol safe (also nitromethane is actually harder to ignite and explosive in a narrower range of mixtures with air). It's also true that methanol flames are very difficult to see, as it burns a very pale blue and generates no smoke.

@peterolsen269

2 жыл бұрын

@@adrianhenle1) Methanol is a nondrinking type of alcohol (also known as wood alcohol and methyl alcohol) which is mostly used to create fuel, solvents and antifreeze. A colorless liquid, it is volatile, flammable, and unlike ethanol, poisonous for human CONSUMPTION. 2) Methanol can also degrease the skin, which may cause dermatitis. Symptoms of ACUTE methanol exposure may include headache, weakness, drowsiness, nausea, difficult breathing, drunkenness, eye irritation, blurred vision, loss of consciousness, and possibly death. Notice how I NEVER said it was SAFE. Notice how it says "Consumption" not "Contact". Notice how the warning says ACUTE. Don't misquote me and then argue with yourself. I've been in more toxic environments than you can imagine. Try being in a booth when shooting catalyzed paint and vaporized high risk solvents like Acetone. Try having high temperature, high pressure, vaporized Phosphate Ester based hydraulic fluid suddenly filling a closed work environment. I'm just saying, all this hyperbole is getting to be exhausting. The main point is know your environment and what the required measures are to safeguard yourself. Good day Adrian Chemist.

Wait they don't have to comply with OSHA? Well thank god I know that now. I wont be working or living in any of those states

This videos are interesting and informative in how to avoid an accident at work thanks to the brave men and women that have made some mistakes that show others how not to do it and remember that safety is number one priority

Safety training,routine inspection and maintenance = lives! I hate that it takes someone to lose their life for new regulations to take place but these poor men punched the time card expecting to go home and to their families. Simple oversights are wicked and merciless!!!

@johnm2056

Жыл бұрын

This is where the saying comes from of: "Safety rules are written in blood of the injured and the dead"

So the material that the flame arrestor plate above the tank is made out of readily corrodes to the chemical they were storing inside the tank... Bro what.

I lived in Florida for several years. Florida government is not very good around Ft. Lauderdale, miami, broward and beyond. Things there are done in the cheapest way possible. They put up a big front, making things seem to be on the up n up. Blasting the news about improvement and how things are so good, but behind the scenes, the companies they hire to do most of the work cut every corner possible. They do this because they underbid a job, which was the only way to get it. And cutting the corners is the only way to make any profit. A perfect example; there was a walkway over hwy 141 that collapsed before it was even finished because the contractor used a cheaper concrete, skimped out on some of the steel reinforcements that go into the concrete, and rushed the job so much there was an alignment issue getting the ends to meet up in the right place. The walkway took 10x longer then it was supposed to and It ended up costing some lives when it collapsed. ... so no, it dont surprise me 1 bit. and oversight is not on purpose, oversight caused by trying to be as cheap as possible is on purpose, and the results are a direct reaction to the people in charge trying to save a buck. IOW the workers had no choice, nobody cared about safety, just getting the job done, on time and as CHEAP as possible.

small question why were they creating heavy sparks directly on top of a flammable gas vent?

I once heard a saying from long ago: "Kill a man, hire a man. Kill a mule buy a mule". Meaning, people are cheap and expendable because there will always be those who need a job lined up ready to take that mans place. You need to spend money to buy/replace a mule, so do everything you can to protect them from injury or death. I've never forgotten that quote.

05:00 steel is obviously stronger than PVC, but not strong enough to prevent it from breaking in case of an explosion such as this one.

@jordanbell4736

2 жыл бұрын

They specifically say it would likely have remained intact. What is your judgment based on? Be more humble.

@pedrolopes3542

2 жыл бұрын

@@jordanbell4736 You don't know me, I think you should take your own advise and show more respect for others. My remark (which is not a judgement) is based on experience.

I had no idea that an aluminum flame arrestor was incompatible with methanol so I probably could have made that mistake. I think I would have known not to weld over it though

I does not work remotely about chemical plant. But it is so exciting to watch the CSB accident animation.

@cheechmarin4812

2 жыл бұрын

U and me both!!!

@cheechmarin4812

2 жыл бұрын

11yrs later. You still watch csb? Just wondering...

@bbsonjohn

2 жыл бұрын

@@cheechmarin4812 sometimes

Is there no way to check for presence of fumes that does not involve open flame? It's like checking for landmines by stomping on the ground... Reminds me of the Buggs Bunny cartoon working in a WW2 shell factory as a 'tester' by hitting each shell fuse with a hammer.

Jesus, even without a hot work program you would think most people would hesitate to shower a tank like that in sparks.

@johannesbols57

Жыл бұрын

Good God, no HWP or pre job safety planning. I guess City maintenance people just weren't aware of that kind of safety culture.

@likeabunnie

6 жыл бұрын

Patrick B yeah... Scary to see that they were "not aware of the need to inspect..." and hadn't since the installation 13 years earlier... horrible injuries and deaths, entirely preventable... :(

They built a super fun skatepark right next to this

"Florida law does not require [...] to comply with OSHA safety standards." Is...is that optional...?

@mattatwar

Жыл бұрын

Section (3)(5) of the Occupational Safety and Health Act of 1970 specifically excludes Federal OSHA's authority over employees of State and local government.

The place was called Buffoon point?

@whiteknightcat

5 жыл бұрын

Um, no. It was Bethune Point.

Every person who ever advocates for rollback of regulations or elects someone who advocates removal of regulations needs to be strapped in and forced to watch the entire USCSB playlist clockwork-orange style.

@paulmvn5431

5 жыл бұрын

Do you really think that requiring a certain amount of parking spots per allowable restaurant square footage despite the presence of a firelane or the need for a permit to install a sign on the outside increases safety? How about the need to aquire a permit to practice interior design?

@artgoat

5 жыл бұрын

@@paulmvn5431 You'd think "what a bunch of maroons, requiring permits to install a sign" until a 1200 pound signs over a parking lot comes crashing down on a windy day on YOUR car (or your kids), because the installer didn't bother with engineering on the supports.

@paulmvn5431

5 жыл бұрын

The sign isn't checked for safety. The permit is there for money and so the city doesn't get "overcrowded" with signs.

@johnballs1352

4 жыл бұрын

@@paulmvn5431 you lost, bug boi

@comcfi

4 жыл бұрын

Shitlib

don't really think using PVC pipe is a mistake here. First, it is always more important to prevent the fire. Secondly, is it certain that using steel pipe will be mitigating the consequence? The pressure is definitely high, steel pipe may transfer it to somewhere downstream where can be even more dangerous.

Defunding The Chemical Safety Board Is A Bad Idea And Likely To Increase Chemical DisastersUnfortunately, the 2019 budget proposed by the Trump administration zeros out funding for the USCSB. Its requested fiscal-year funding, $12 million, is modest for a government agency. Likewise, the 2018 budget also proposed to defund the USCSB. This sustained effort reflects an ongoing de-emphasis on chemical safety - as a second example, Environmental Protection Agency Administrator Scott Pruitt has indefinitely delayed bans on the use of three hazardous chemicals, shown to be toxic to human health. Chemical production is an essential component of modern society. This does not mean that there is not room to improve practices in manufacturing, storing, and shipping chemicals, and in ensuring the safety of those who work in or live near chemical plants. The vantage of an independent group is crucial for identifying those aspects that can and should be improved. Defunding the USCSB, which provides this indispensable independent perspective, is likely to hinder efforts to identify the causes of chemical accidents - especially in low-regulation locales. Moreover, it is also likely to worsen our ability to respond in previously unforeseen events, such as the heavy flooding of Harvey, that may be exacerbated by climate change. Finally, it is likely to cost lives in future incidents.

@johnballs1352

4 жыл бұрын

Good.

@4nciite

4 жыл бұрын

Nice fantasy.

@samneal7679

3 жыл бұрын

@@johnballs1352 web.archive.org/web/20191020213008/www.safetyandhealthmagazine.com/articles/16670-csb-harwood-grants-back-on-the-chopping-block-in-trumps-fy-2019-budget-proposal google is your friend 🙃

@derfo2072

3 жыл бұрын

3 years deep and its all Trumps fault. Go fuck yourself, dude.

@jacksonbaker4492

3 жыл бұрын

Which other sitting president is currently trying to remove regulatory boards at the behest of the industry? I only know of one President at the moment, but I suppose there could be more.

Didn't people consider that welding near a tank that was venting flammable chemicals AS DESIGNED might be a bad idea??

Why would the manufacturers of the the mechanism specify PVC use for the pipes n such instead of steel?

From what I've just seen her the State of Florida is guilty of negligent homicide I'm not covering state workers under OSHA guidelines

Anyone got the list of the 25 states they referred to at 5:58?

@REXXSEVEN

4 жыл бұрын

What is an OSHA-Approved State Plan? The Occupational Safety and Health (OSH) Act covers most private sector employers and their workers, in addition to some state and local government employers and their workers in the 50 states and certain territories and jurisdictions under federal authority. Those jurisdictions include the District of Columbia, Puerto Rico, the Virgin Islands, American Samoa, Guam, Northern Mariana Islands, Wake Island, Johnston Island, and the Outer Continental Shelf Lands as defined in the Outer Continental Shelf Lands Act. Private Sector Workers OSHA covers most private sector employers and workers in all 50 states, the District of Columbia, and the other United States (U.S.) jurisdictions - either directly through OSHA or through an OSHA-approved State Plan. State Plans are OSHA-approved job safety and health programs operated by individual states rather than federal OSHA. Section 18 of the OSH Act encourages states to develop and operate their own job safety and health programs and precludes state enforcement of OSHA standards unless the state has an OSHA-approved State Plan. OSHA approves and monitors all State Plans and provides as much as 50 percent of the funding for each program. State-run safety and health programs must be at least as effective (ALAE) as the federal OSHA program. OSHA provides coverage to certain workers specifically excluded from a State Plan (for example, those in some states who work in maritime industries or on military bases). To find the contact information of the OSHA or State Plan office nearest to you, call 1-800-321-OSHA or go to www.osha.gov. The following 22 states or territories have OSHA-approved State Plans that cover both private and state and local government workers: Alaska Arizona California Hawaii Indiana Iowa Kentucky Maryland Michigan Minnesota Nevada New Mexico North Carolina Oregon Puerto Rico South Carolina Tennessee Utah Vermont Virginia Washington Wyoming State and Local Government Workers Workers at state and local government agencies are not covered by OSHA, but have OSH Act protections if they work in states that have an OSHA-approved State Plan. OSHA rules also permit states and territories to develop plans that cover state and local government workers only. In these cases, private sector workers and employers remain under federal OSHA jurisdiction. Five additional states and one U.S. territory (Virgin Islands) have OSHA-approved State Plans that cover state and local government workers only: Connecticut Illinois Maine New Jersey New York Virgin Island

Is this Clyde video? He was the crane operator

Scary, cannot even blame the workers for not smelling the gas. In another video in this channel, one of the cause of accident is workers only using their sense of smell in detecting gas presence, little did they know that smelling the same gas everyday make their smell desensitized to that gas odor.

Man I feel bad for the crane operator, the fires directly shot at him from the tank. Any other place he could have stopped and he'd have been at least somewhat more safe and could've survived...

I don’t know why I watch these at weird times in the morning high as fuck, But they bizarrely interesting

How did the explosion inside the tank not rupture the tank shell?!

@surf2257

2 жыл бұрын

Right, it never exploded, it ignited inside the tank by not creating enough pressure to bust it open. Some hoses disconnected because the bottom tank was bending and pushing the tank up. Explosion would probably have the tank flying 300 feet in the air.

so it was a big flamethrower?

y'know.......a short section (20cm.) of stainless pipe with a roll of stainless mesh (18cm.) inside would have a better flame barrier.

If tank was empty before the hot work, then would be no boom. Plus the valve should be installed on the top to prevent methanol escape from the vent.

@EvanDent

3 жыл бұрын

Only if it was then purged. Othwise gases might still be present

@WadcaWymiaru

3 жыл бұрын

@@EvanDent But gases could escape compare to liquids...

I love the voice of the woman at 0:50

✔ Home Office work ❌ Shipyard worker ❌ Farm worker

Never heard of a "CEO" of a government agency. amazing the tank did not totally explode

I watch these to fall asleep 😂

Is it still true that 25 states don't follow osha?

If you know there's a tank of methanol underneath, you don't spark up an oxyacetaline cutter. Did they not know? It would have been labelled surely?

Stronger AND tougher.

Why is methanol used in wastewater treatment?

@jamescouture775

4 жыл бұрын

www.methanol.org/wp-content/uploads/2016/06/Methanol-Denitrification-Why-Do-Some-Wastewater-Treatment-Plants-Need-To-Remove-Nitrogen.pdf

When budgets get tight safety is always the first program cut. How about CDM, a premier wastewater engineering firm's design? Nice work, ended in deaths. But it brought the project in on budget.

I see they activated Robot Hall for this investigation

How do you not know that methanol is flammable?

@Sashazur

4 жыл бұрын

I doubt the welders even knew *what* was in the tanks, let alone whether it was flammable or not.

@Astromyxin

4 жыл бұрын

​@@Sashazur I know, that's precisely the problem. If you don't know what's inside the giant bomb with PVC pipe sticking out of the side of it, maybe ask someone if they could potentially explode if they try to weld in that particular area, which happened to be, in this case, above a giant bomb. These are details you really need to get hammered out before the welding/cutting process begins.

The cheapest thing to do is always nothing....with the rollback of regulations this type of incident will become routine!

How in the hell would anyone ever think that was a good idea?!?!

Why were the tanks not purged prior? Oh nevermind.

I work at a waste water treatment plant. This is spooky

There is just so much wrong with this incident. It's understandable why so many workers die on the job as management is so complacent with their safety.

Surprised thathe fumes in the tank did not prevent combustion by displacing air containing O2. Surprised they even had a flame arrester where one would never expecthere to be flames.

Nobody on site knows that methanol is flammable? Everybody should know this kind of basic chemistry in modern society. protect themselves and others.

Plastic piping?

The third guy was wise after their mistake! that was smart of him to have thought of running thro9ugh the roof to an area where he could descend or jump at a safer height. I thought the guy in the mobile crane could survive or escape easily upon seeing the ball of fire explode above the tank. Well the first guy had the worst instant death! But crane driver had really tasted hell fire. I wish he can bypass hell after this incident for real.

@alanj9391

6 жыл бұрын

The "ball of fire" above the tank was added for the animation, in reality methanol burns without much of a visible flame.

what the heel were they using a torch on a roof that power shears could have safely been used

@5.43v

3 жыл бұрын

@D Early isn't acetylene expensive?

This is how the convo should go: Boss: "I want you to go cutting steel above these tanks." Worker: "Okay, what's in the tanks?" Boss: "Methanol." Worker: "Okay. Both tanks are drained and inerted?" Boss: "No, one is full." Worker: "..." Worker: "..." Worker: "..." Worker: "Well, they'd better get drained and inerted first." Boss: "No can do." Worker: "I have a short list of recreational anatomical impossibilities you might enjoy." Boss: "Well, if you don't like your job ..." Worker: "Money's no good to me unless I live to spend it, so I'm not taking a torch to God's own Molotov cocktail. Get those tanks drained and inerted, or at least fully air-flushed -- or else job upshove arsewise. I've got my FU money put aside, so I'm good either way." Boss: "..."

@mjallen1308

2 жыл бұрын

That’s the problem. Most people don’t have any FU money put aside. Most can’t afford to lose a job.

These videos just aren't the same without Sheldon Smith narrating.

When regulations aren't enforced this sort of thing is bound to happen. I can't help but think lobby groups for the companies involved are to blame, forcing the states to not enforce "costly" saftey standards and regulations.

If I may... The "Training" people receive is Half Ass'd and Severely Inadequate for Life/Safety Purposes! Enforcement is Key in these issues and Needs to be Strictly Enforced. And this includes anything between OSHA Guidelines to Personal health risk and Safety.

Was any one held responsible and punished for this tragedy,?

@TheTrainChasingPoet1999

4 жыл бұрын

Nobody is held responsible for any of these things.

Jesuskeyrist. No one is looking over the other guys shoulder to make sure all is well. No systems engineer checking things out. No one with an eye to safety first. Sad.

You would think they would have used a circular saw with a diamond tipped blade to cut the roof off instead of a torch

@johnd5398

3 жыл бұрын

Would have produced the same hot sparks.

All this seems pretty typical lack of maintenance and care that is involved with city facilities.

That one lady sounds just like Roseanne Barr.

Terrible experience of lift operator, he was cooked alive 🔥🔥🔥. No OSHA because you work for public?! Crazy

Close these old plants down and start rebuilding new plants. Start replacing parts 2-4 times or more a year and start upgrading the safety equipment

@iorfidaskye

5 жыл бұрын

We already can't keep up with China, good luck

@artgoat

5 жыл бұрын

Good luck getting the voters to pay for that. They'd rather see workers die then have their water bill go up five cents a month.

@johnd5398

3 жыл бұрын

You clearly have never worked in any type of industrial setting. These suggestions are ridiculous.

0:45 Who is this enchantress? Ursula from the Little Mermaid

@REXXSEVEN

4 жыл бұрын

Thats mean. LOL.

@TheTrainChasingPoet1999

4 жыл бұрын

You must be a big hit at parties, Austin.

Pretty sad how mistakes or flaws can lead to death and that's when the lawyers come in to take advantage of the situation. No system is flawless and you should know that before taking a dangerous job.

Only 11 employees? Less than one person per million gallons of water treated daily. No wonder it wasn't checked

Jack Lewis (robocop) at 00:45

Using a torch or welder on top of a tank of flammable liquid is asking for death.

the ciddy?

Did theyvhave a FLAMABLE safety sign anywhere on the tanks? I think the welders cary an obligation as part of their job to know these safety risks. Its kind of like feul delivery drivers. They either knew or should have known that it was careless and wreckless to let shards of sparks rain down on a storage tank that might contain unknown liquids. Abybody see the video about the propane storage tank explosion at a gas station? When propane vapors entered the store, everyone locked themselves "inside" the store for safety. They all perished. Sad. 😥

@johnballs1352

4 жыл бұрын

Nah, all liability is on the company imo. They lost their lives, let's not forget about that

Why is the video quality so low on these? This one is at 240p, some are at 360p. Kinda fuzzy. 720p would be ideal (really no need for hi def for these)

@aaronfield3543

5 жыл бұрын

Actually, oddly enough 720p is described as HD, or high definition. 1080p is described as FHD, or full high definition.

@tomarsandbeyond

5 жыл бұрын

@@aaronfield3543 I know. Regardless of what they are called, too few pixels makes it hard to see details, while some KZreadrs use more pixels than necessary.

@aaronfield3543

5 жыл бұрын

@@tomarsandbeyond I definitely agree. 480p at the very minimum should be used

@delipete123

5 жыл бұрын

This video is more than 11 years old. Videos degrade over time and lose pixels. It was 1080p when it was first uploaded

@tomarsandbeyond

5 жыл бұрын

@@delipete123 r u joking? that's not how it works.

Wait a minute, I thought only corporations cut corners and failed to maintain safety equipment.

@UnitSe7en

5 жыл бұрын

The government is a corporation.

@artgoat

5 жыл бұрын

When voters continually vote for "cheaper smaller government" the government complies by cutting corners and hiring less-experienced people.

I want to down load many video clip for work safe

@povmcdov

6 жыл бұрын

Contact the CSB. I believe they have DVDs available.

It is bad enough to get private companies to follow safety guidelines. Wouldn't be too hard getting City and State government to follow such guidelines some they are normally the enforcer rather being enforced.

Once again, we see how equipment for handling highly dangerous materials has been designed, operated and maintained by brain dead mickey mouse amateurs. Wouldn't a professional welder want to know what's in a tank that he's going to be showering with sparks? Is there anyone on the property who's bright enough to ask the question, "What would happen if...?" The CSB has produced hundreds of accident reports during its 20 year history. They present the results and conclusions flatly, with absolutely no sense of shock or mockery. But you've got to imagine the meetings they've attended in which highly trained investigators are falling out of their chairs at the stupidity of chemical industry workers who cause these spectacular accidents. I'd LOVE to attend just one meeting for the entertainment.

@artgoat

5 жыл бұрын

You assume that the guy operating the cutting torch is an AWS certified, trained, professional welder. Most likely he was someone with enough general knowledge to know how to run a cutting torch. Frankly, I'm befuddled about why they were chopping the roof up with a torch. Most sheet metal roofs are attached by screws. If they were just replacing the roof, it would have been trivial to dismantle it with a battery drill motor, no torch required.

@spambot7110

3 жыл бұрын

@MrPLC999 let me guess, if you had been in the Grenfell tower fire, you would've simply left the building, eh? asshole.

How do cities get away w this? We had to give burn permits at caterpillar even if they were outside and over a 1/4. Mile from anything that would burn

probably pump some nitrogen to make it not so flammable....?

They keep calling the place "Buffoon Point" on the video. LOL makes sense

@tcolondovich2996

5 жыл бұрын

Must be a nickname for the city or something

What an absolute clusterfuck :(