Ludendorff really was all about military. He would visit the Belgian fortresses during his "vacation" to study them in more detail. He was pretty dedicated/obsessed.

@egeerdem8272

5 жыл бұрын

thats the thing that separtes military geniuses and ordinary officers

@mr.ramfan8100

4 жыл бұрын

The glorious defeat of the wermacht was, basically, his doing...

@felipesubiabre314

4 жыл бұрын

@@mr.ramfan8100 id say it was the Kaiserliche Marine who lost the war, they never tried to break the blockade (well they did, once, in four years of war)

@Neater_profile

2 жыл бұрын

That's what It takes to be at the top.

@Aurelian369_

Жыл бұрын

hey now, we can’t judge when we’re the nerds who watch ww1 content for fun

"Ludendorff had no friends." I'm not surprised.

Fun fact. Ludendorff was born April 9, 1865. The very same day Robert E. Lee surrendered the Army of Northern Virginia to Ulysses S. Grant at Appomattox Courthouse.

@scottklocke891

5 жыл бұрын

LMMFAO

@thoughtfulpug1333

5 жыл бұрын

I thought that was a lie for a second. No, that is actual facts. Wow.

@mr.ramfan8100

4 жыл бұрын

I'll be damned! Thank you for that...

@wyattbottorff2473

4 жыл бұрын

@@mr.ramfan8100 I'll second that

So Crown Prince Rupprecht was somewhat comparable to the French Pétain, ensuring that his troops at least had the basic levels of comfort instead of Ludendorff, who did not care for the soldiers' lives of well-being, as long as the war was fought. Incredible how there can be so much division among the command within one army.

@zeppelinboys

2 жыл бұрын

not really. the Army attracts all kinds of people. from megalomaniacs, control freaks, over cautious/or ambitious, people with opposite ideas on how limited resources should be spent, even division on what the goals of the war should be

@derrickstorm6976

Ай бұрын

​@@zeppelinboys your comment was so generalising it's entirely useless 😂

@sloths-df3gf

Ай бұрын

I seem to recall that the British preferred the Bavarians to the Prussians, and that the Bavarians didn't much like the Prussians either!

Knocking on the door with ....a pommel! What luck the fort didn’t collapse after being ended so rightly.

@JDahl-sj5lk

5 жыл бұрын

CAP198462 Wrong channel.. or maybe not, I guess everyone’s heard that meme.

Hey thats so cool. Crown Prince Rupprecht was my Great-Grandfather and a great man. Mein Grossmama Editha Princess von Bayern would tell me about him. She loved him very much. I live in Canada now with my family so my German isn't great but we still managed to get some of the paintings of him and family heirlooms. Its so cool that you are talking about him!

@LukeBunyip

5 жыл бұрын

And equally, it was cool that those of us that don't know that much about him, got to hear about him.

@TheCimbrianBull

5 жыл бұрын

Have you ever visited Germany and Bavaria?

@vortex8742

5 жыл бұрын

That’s so cool

@schimertp

5 жыл бұрын

yeah I have many times to visit my relatives. Many of them still have estates. My Uncle Franz is Duke of Bavaria although he has no actual power.

@TheCimbrianBull

5 жыл бұрын

@@schimertp Wow, that's some awesome family history! Thanks for the reply. 👍

I like Rupprecht more, just he's more human than Ludendorff.

@MrShaneVicious

5 жыл бұрын

Yeah that's odd , a Crown Prince caring more for the common soldiers than the commoner General.

@kingsofserbiangameplay1623

5 жыл бұрын

@@MrShaneVicious, Yeah, some people just have more solidarity than others.

@TheCimbrianBull

5 жыл бұрын

I really like the name Rupprecht!

@11Kralle

5 жыл бұрын

Rupprecht had the means to appear more humain, Ludendorff had the skills and the urge to be usefull on all military matters. These two individuals represented the true difference in Germany: the diligent north opposing the self-endulging south. (no need to guess, where my ancestors belonged to)

@leeboy26

5 жыл бұрын

Ludendorff sounds like the type of dour militarist that plagued Germany for the entire 20th century.

I came to the same conclusions as Rupprecht about Ludendorff's military capability when the spring offensive started. I have studied a lot of wars but have left WW1 to be studied later in detail as it's so complex.

Ludendorff was one of those people who do bad things not out of malice, but out of willingness to do whatever is they think is necessary.

@Edax_Royeaux

5 жыл бұрын

In principle, there's barely any difference. Cruelty out of malice or cruelty out of pragmatism is still just cruelty.

@siestatime4638

5 жыл бұрын

He is still doing bad things, regardless of his rationalization.

@decem_sagittae

5 жыл бұрын

A realist? True. There is no place for emotions in politics, diplomacy and warfare. You have to be pragmatic, methodical, cold and calculated. Rupprecht was a soyboy betacuck.

@brwnipoints

5 жыл бұрын

If you dig deep enough to the mind of any human who has performed acts of cruelty, you will find that rationale to be true in all of them. No one ever believes themselves to be evil

@adriansz343

5 жыл бұрын

Megas Archon Alexandros Vlahos Idk dude, it was exactly that kind of behavior that caused the German people to revolt. Not sure where you get that idea about Rupprecht from, but from what Indy said his successful command of his men definitely earned him his rank. Cheers mate

Is a video about Kaiser Karl I of Austria Hungary planned? I would really appreciate it since so little is ever mentioned about him.

@gomolynaiojnikong204

5 жыл бұрын

would be great

@ericcarlson3746

5 жыл бұрын

Sadly so little time remains. As I write: the war is over in 4 days

Just rewatching the entire series again because why not

@the12th68

5 жыл бұрын

Indiana Jones indeed

@ricklolkema3340

5 жыл бұрын

Well, it's a great show but how long will that take?

@the12th68

5 жыл бұрын

Long

@indianajones4321

5 жыл бұрын

Rick Lolkema so far I’m in Spring of 1915, I’m binge watching The Great War

@the12th68

5 жыл бұрын

And How long has that taken?

My favourite general is Indy Neidell.

@warriorcrab1319

5 жыл бұрын

I'm positive I didn't read that the way it was intended - there's a typo there, right?

@kingsofserbiangameplay1623

5 жыл бұрын

@@warriorcrab1319, YEP, lol

3:34 damn Luddendorf reminds me of Flo. I now kinda want to see Flo cosplay as Luddendorf with moustache.

@ringo1692

5 жыл бұрын

😂😂😂

@TheCimbrianBull

5 жыл бұрын

Ludendorff went with the flow and reincarnated as Flo!

@ericcarlson3746

5 жыл бұрын

Markus Linke sans beard as Kaiser Karl I

There is a journal entry somewhere about Ludendorff’s sons dead body. If I remember correctly he kept one of the son’s body with him in his office or close by. It was said that it comforted him and he wrote to his wife about it as well. Though I can’t find the journal entry from him, it does paint a picture how much 4 years of war can have on a man who’s been fighting it since day one.

Rupprecht seems to have been the only royal commander of this war that actually deserved his rank. Every other royal who held a command in the war was criminally incompetent. Much respect to him, despite his own political leanings

@soulscanner66

5 жыл бұрын

Problem was that he was proven wrong about Russia being too large and powerful to conquer. The problem was the civilian leadership at the top. The Kaiser wasn't strong enough to make the two work together.

@ericcarlson3746

5 жыл бұрын

weren't the only other 2 the Crown prince and Albert of Wurttemberg? I suppose others held lesser ranks

@MrShaneVicious

3 жыл бұрын

Crown Prince Wilhelm was a decent commander.

@DanielEscovedo

3 жыл бұрын

@@MrShaneVicious Also Leopold von Bayern was a great commander.

@zeppelinboys

2 жыл бұрын

a constitutional monarchy in Bavaria with Rupprecht at the head still had great support into the 50s, and told king George that Rupprecht considered Hitler insane lol

And 100 years later most bavarians still like austria more.

@GerackSerack

5 жыл бұрын

And so does the rest of Europe...

@karlkarlos3545

5 жыл бұрын

Oh, please, please, please join Austria. And take Saxony with you. Nothing would make the rest of Germany more happy.

@commanderboreal1343

5 жыл бұрын

CSU 35%

@cv4809

5 жыл бұрын

@@karlkarlos3545 Bavaria is the most German part of Germany

@joehoe222

5 жыл бұрын

@@GerackSerack well, Austrian cellars...

Great effort from Indy to take care for even the right pronounciation and emphesis of words like "OBERSTE" Heeresleitung which might take quite a lot time to get it done the right way and the excercises for that. It makes the descriptions a lot more vivid or catches a german far more when suddenly the pronounciation switches to native german. He did it for such a long time but this time I recogniced it why it catches me so often when he describes interactions. Well done !

Dear Indy and team, I've been watching the show for going on 3 years now, and I've been enthralled since then by you're masterful , insightful, and sobering recounting of this war that claimed the lives of so many millions of young men my age. I want to congratulate you all from the bottom of my heart for the nearly 5 years of hard work and dedication you have put in to such a momentous project. My question for out of the trenches is, would you guys ever consider publishing a book on The Great War? It could essentially be an edited collection of your weekly scripts in book form. I think that it would be an incredibly comprehensive yet equally accessible title, that would cover both the most important and well known events of the conflict, as well as the obscure and oft ignore theaters and details that were none that less intriguing and important. Again, thank you for many years of knowledge and entertainment. With Regards. -Max

Finally one video about Ludendorf

Beyond the scope of this channel....but not beyond the scope of Between 2 Wars. ;)

So exciting to enter into the minds of great leaders to discover both their glory & their misery... and that a British general & Ludendorff actually met to talk about what people call "war" & they call "work". Cheers Markus for your significant & exciting research !

Ludendorff has to be the most powerful Quartermaster General in history.

For the first time I have some grudging respect for the Crown Prince . I would like to hear more about his career .

Actually, if you dont know Indy, Rupprecht's Chief of Staff was Hermann Von Kuhl

Nice to see my cousin Rupprecht was less useless than the rest of our family. This more than makes up for your omission of the brief reign of King Mindaugas II of Lithuania, my great-great-grandfather.

@phaudraig

5 жыл бұрын

@@sithersproductions I am also descended from a pope and an anti-pope - but since all the royals are so inbred all across Europe, once you're related to one of them you're related to the lot.

Wait he really said that? "Get the tactics right, and you win battles. Get the operational art right, and you win campaigns"

I have always loved military history.... Then served 8 years active duty in the United States MARINE Corps. One thing has not changed, Being(or getting to be) a General. Is more about politics then any real skill. The sadness is that, the real warriors die for this follie.

@johngalvano5895

5 жыл бұрын

yeah but war usually weeds out the bad generals and the cream rises to the top. look at the french rev/napoleonic wars, civil war, wwi, etc

@sahaynam6470

3 жыл бұрын

At the low low price of hundreds of thousands of lives.

When Indy says “beyond the scope of this channel”. I take a shot. I am now a hardcore alcoholic.

Is this the guy that saves Christmas?

@malikcagatay7923

4 жыл бұрын

I came from the timeghost's video and I was looking for that comment😁😁

WHERE ARE THE SUBTITLES?? ARGHHHH..I NEED THEM (I am Deaf...)! Please, I am a loyal Patreon diehard supporter of the TGW :-/ .

Is it still possible to catch up until November 11th if I start in 1914 now?

@indianajones4321

5 жыл бұрын

Player 1 yes I’m doing it. Already on week fifty after six days

@ICULooking

5 жыл бұрын

only 1 way to find out

@astrobot4017

5 жыл бұрын

@@ICULooking Just have to quit my job, then I have plenty of time ;-)

@thebenis3157

5 жыл бұрын

Player 1 I mean, you don't necessarily have to finish it before the 11th

@johnsproule1645

5 жыл бұрын

Watch at 1.25 speed (or higher if you can still enjoy it) and you'll cut your screen time by 20%. Indy looks a little over-caffeinated, but he still sounds great.

Super vidéo sur le caractère très obtus de Ludendorff ..! Merci , thanks !

Nice. Just saw a lecture about the Spring Offensives and Ludendorff's lack of operational strategy.

I recommend Sebastian Haffner " The German Revolution 1918/1919 (9th edition upwards) for Ludendorff‘s more than accidental involvement in the "Back Stab legend" and the following consequences.

My 2nd great-grandfather fought in the 3rd Bavarian division in the 6th army with Crown prince Rupprecht. I still have his medals, including a first class Iron Cross. He fought in the battle of the Frontiers, in the Somme, Verdun, Ypres, and the German attempts of 1918. He was wounded but went back to the frontline. Then, after the war he left to Brazil to restart his life with his wife and kids.

Next on WHO DID WHAT IN WW1: Captain Edmund Blackadder, aka The Flanders Pigeon Murderer

There is a new bio of Rupprecht that has come out earlier this year titled " Haig's Enemy" Note Rupprecht commanded the German 6th Army not the 3rd which faced the French for the entire war.

Is it too late to ask if there could be a shout out to the Petróczy-Kármán-Žurovec? (Otherwise known as an experimental Austro-Hungarian tethered helicopter/observation platform thingy)

I see you upheld your promise to talk about the nonsense that was the Dolchstoss legend I inquired about...1 1/2 years ago? This war has been going on for too long, but the end is nigh. Thanks for all you guys work.

Hi Indy and the crew! I was told stories of my great grandfather in ww1. He was an officer in the gurkha regiment in the british army. So Indy I was wondering where were gurkha soldiers sationed and what roles did they play?

What day is it? The date! What yeeeear?!

@MichaelCollins1922

5 жыл бұрын

"Sonofabitch took my pants!"

@rarevhsuploads4995

5 жыл бұрын

"Your clothes, give them to me. NOW!"

@indianajones4321

5 жыл бұрын

“Come with me if you want to live”

those were the days!

That shell at 1:32 was absolutely brutal

There is still time to do an episode about mannerheim on this channel. If you wait to do it on world war two, his exploits in the great war might be impossible to fit in.

@shrillbert

5 жыл бұрын

I'm surprised that they didn't do Alvin York yet, myself.

@ringo1692

5 жыл бұрын

@@shrillbert well, they just started bringing the Americans in, there's still time

@TheCimbrianBull

5 жыл бұрын

shrilbert They did actually talk about Alvin York just recently in the episode about the Lost Battalion.

@shrillbert

5 жыл бұрын

Yes, but I meant as a Who Did What special.

Hoping for a special on Enver Pasha and the Ottoman Sultan soon. Keep up the great work!

@ahmadniam3568

5 жыл бұрын

This is Great War, not Pacific War Ashigara san

"Get logistics right, and you win wars." -Me I'm still bothered by the portrayal of Ludendorff in the recent Wonder Woman movie. Somehow, "enemy soldier" just wasn't enough, they had to make him a (literal) cackling maniac. And sprinkle a nice dose of nazification on to him, to boot.

@impalabeeper

5 жыл бұрын

And the Ludendorff in Wonder Woman looks a lot more like his subordinate Max Hoffmann.

@larryclyons

5 жыл бұрын

Well he was a strong supporter of Hitler, and given some of the accounts of the German general staff towards the end, Ludendorff was pretty much out of touch with reality.

@Kumimono

5 жыл бұрын

Certainly, but the depiction was way too much.

@larryclyons

5 жыл бұрын

Eventually I'll have to see it, but franks I have yet to see an American film about WW1 that doesn't depict the Americans as super soldiers who won the First World War all by themselves.

Ludendorff and Hindenburg had the best bromance ever. Damn shame their friendship soured. RIP

Hi flo!

I want to see the monarchs restored one day...

You guys should review Peter Jackson's 'They Shall Not Grow Old' that came out the 16th

I always wondered why Erich Ludendorff does not have a noble "von" in his name despite being a noble. Has anyone an idea?

@merdiolu

5 жыл бұрын

He was not a Prussian aristocrat , his family had middle class origins and had no estate and not from Junkers class. During his career he was more interested in climbing military hierrarchy ladder by merit

Yes Rupprecht finally ! Can we get an episode for CP Wilhelm ?

I think the whole “tactically brilliant, operationally poor, and strategically bankrupt” idea of the German army was due to the thinking of the eastern thinkers of the High Command. Ludendorff was definitely out of touch with the reality on the ground and seemed to not care about the bloodshed from the costly offensives. It seemed that Foch was an overall better strategic thinker than Ludendorff. Although you have to keep in mind the total deficit of resources that the Germans had to deal with after 1916, even after the Brest-Litovsk treaty. By 1918, the only way, I think, Germany could have won the war was a negotiated peace without having the grand ambitions of the high command.

@varana

5 жыл бұрын

Although when he gained power in the OHL, it was to replace Falkenhayn after the disastrous bloodshed at Verdun. He didn't care in other ways than Falkenhayn.

Perhaps we could hear about the Beer Hall Putsch on another channel very similar to this one, but focused on World War 2... hmmm

I honestly feel like this would’ve been better as two episodes.

"So be it." Once everyone was agreed to the more brutal schema, they became the-wait for it- "So Be It Union". I'll let myself out . . . through Siberia.

I think I can see myself liking the Crown Prince. I wonder what if Crown Prince Rupprecht had Ludendorff's job and Ludendorff had Rupprect's job. Would they're opinions be the same or different. I think it would be a really interesting to see something on that. great job.

Will you be doing a Who did What about Bernard Montgomery?

Cool

Kronprinz Rupperecht was a truly admirable Royal. A man of morals and competence in a burning world

can you buy Ludendorf's book?

@varana

5 жыл бұрын

In German, yes. Not sure about English.

Im wondering if you could do a special for oott on famous generals who lost sons to the war ?? like you mentioned of Lundendorf

Big fan

Tactics without strategy is just noise before defeat.

Can you do a video about the Revolution 1918 in Karlsruhe in the Home state of Max von Baden

5:29 Intensive crippled hand hiding

Can someone from the Great War please point me to the show where they talked about Prince Rupprecht and the reindeer please thank you

Max Hoffman is the man.

Can u guys do a Scotland special PLEASE

@decem_sagittae

5 жыл бұрын

Where was Scotland when WW1?

@CJ-fz9fq

5 жыл бұрын

@Megas Scotland is part of Britain.

I thought you said that Mackensen was the best general.

Could you tell something about the book in the background, Ludendorff reine .. something something.

@TheCimbrianBull

5 жыл бұрын

It's called "Meine Kriegserrinnerungen, 1914-1918".

@varana

5 жыл бұрын

It's the book Indy's talking about for a bit, written immediately after his resignation - the title translates to "My War Memories".

Does the special for Paul von Hindenburg exist? I don't see anything

Every time I watch this show it reminds me of the great Martin war a documentary about aliens it would be cool if you guys would like to do a Halloween special about it.

I don't know if someone suggested, for A Who And What in ... Alfred Dreyfus from the Dreyfus Affair?! I know me serviced in WWI.

Great episode as usual! Can we have a femal bio next time? It's been a while... Prehaps Louise de Bettignies a french spy/information network manager ? ☺

There's a question I've always wanted awnsered. Are the stories about the "Wild Deserters" A group of feral deserters of both sides that prowled no mans land true?

Last time i came this early the 6th army was still fighting at stalingrad

I have family from east Prussia, sad to say it no longer exists! By the way indy is your last name German?

Imagine your a Dutch guard and out of nowhere the crown prince stands before you with his luggage, asking if he could apply for asylum in The Netherlands.

2:28 What is the deal with the Pickelhauben with the square tops? Anyone know?

@martinsantavy8971

5 жыл бұрын

They are typical for uhlans (lancers), a type of cavalry units that were original formed in poland, but were used by almost every army in ww1

Do Sgt Alvin York

Are Ludendorff's memoirs worth a read? A lot of generals wrote rather self-serving memoirs.

@varana

5 жыл бұрын

His are no exception. Always to be taken with a healthy truck load of salt, esp. the parts about 1918 and his fall from power.

Did Ludendorff end up in Hässleholm, the small Swedish town?

Jeez Indie you want some coffee? Still great content but man do you look exhausted

Indy, please make a video on French West Africa and another video on French Indochina. Please do so before your channel ends. Please respond to my comment.

Kind of how one death lead to millions. Lots of empires died wit their legacy but new nations were born form their ashes

What's the exact difference between tactical, operational and strategical?

@barrygray3615

5 жыл бұрын

le Beast Tactics are used to win battles in furtherance of the goals of an offensive (or defensive) operation in order to win a campaign. Operations are used in furtherance of the goals of a strategy to win a war. Strategy should come first, otherwise operational and tactical efforts are wasted.

November 11 is going to be a sad day

1:33 is this real footage. If so rip the guy in close right

@edlaprade

5 жыл бұрын

Looks more like a propaganda reel.

I just thought of a question. I wonder how much wargaming assisted both sides of the war, and in what way, in their planning and preparation for offensives and the responses to them?

@TheCimbrianBull

5 жыл бұрын

Wargaming was used by the Prussians/Germans and later adopted by other armies. There's an informative Wikipedia article about it.

Check our Indy’s other channel World War 2 if you want to learn more about what happened after the war in World War 2!

They Shall Not Grow Old

So in other words, the German High Command cared more about ego than winning.

Ludendorf was from a Junker family. They were not nobility, but they were landed gentry. They were not poor farmers, but well-off landowners who managed their estates. They dominated the Prussian military. He pretty much personified the attitude of a whole class of Prussian society. I think the Junkers are worth mentioning in this video.

What happens after ww1 is over

I thought Lundendorff was only in gta v

What are the plans for THE GREAT WAR after 11,11,2018?

@acediadekay3793

5 жыл бұрын

There is only one plan... TOTAL GERMAN VICTORY !!!

@nicobruin8618

5 жыл бұрын

They are also already doing world war 2. You should check it out.

@larryclyons

5 жыл бұрын

They're also doing the inter war years. Very interesting.

@scottklocke891

5 жыл бұрын

@@larryclyons damn right it is.

@LukeBunyip

5 жыл бұрын

Apparently, Flo is going on a holiday.

Question for out of the trenches; did the Russians have ANY competent officers except for Brusilov? You'd think with an army that size there must of been at least some half way descent Generals or at least officers

@Oxtocoatl13

5 жыл бұрын

I think the competent officers are overshadowed by the incompetence of the highest leadership. Even very capable underlings can have a hard time saving the day from the useless aristocrats in charge.

@Edmonton-of2ec

2 жыл бұрын

Grand Duke Nicholas Nikolaevich wasn’t half bad. But ofc, he was sacked and the Tsar took personal command of the army. And we all know how that ended

If Rupprecht and Ludendorff worked together on the Spring Offensive, Germany would've had a better shot at winning the war.

Make a montenegro before the war