I’m really loving your videos. They are thoughtfully organized and don’t contain a lot of unnecessary talking. Your pros and cons for each item are clearly detailed and you do not seem to have a bias toward any particular brand. Great channel.

Once again, I love your reviews Rob! I like the fact that you're not not bias and you give honest reviews with FACTS!!!! KEEP UP THE GOOD WORK!

@ConcordCarpenter

5 жыл бұрын

Thanks ROB

I certainly appreciate these videos and the depth you go into on video and alternatively in written form. I always comment on the videos you create where the effort, thoroughness and conclusions are basically unquestionable. Really appreciate such content from you guys all for free, I always watch the ads on your vids regardless of length (if long look away lol). Watching from London, UK. Would love to see a few more brands - if indeed there are any major ones in your part of the world....Makita, Milwaukee or Stanley? Thanks, Thumbs up Rob & Team.

Great review thank you for your time and patience in going through them- trying to pick out one today I'll might go with the Bosh as the Dewalt has been out of stock

I changed the Bosch for the Bosch 12v laser and there’s a big difference in brightness and features , the plumb bob feature on these lasers has come in so useful its excellent ! Also the Bosch 12v connects to your phone and you can alter the brightness and other things like turning it on and off and switch between lines and if you have the RM3 remote mount you can use your phone as the remote.

Who's already in the 12v DeWalt platform? 😉 I bought the Bosch gll2 for $30 two years ago. I also have the Bosch gll2 150 Eck I bought for $180 (new off of eBay). I have used them in laying tile, framing, septic leach line grading, fencing, cabinet installation, etc. I remodel and build new. I have also only changed the AA batteries once in both units (I turn them on, make my marks and turn them off). Battery costs are not an issue so the 12v DeWalt is definitely overkill. The thing I like the most about the Bosch is the ability to only have on the horizontal or vertical lines by themselves and to lock it while it's still on and turn it sideways just to shoot a line when laying out treads or some other design. Thanks for the comparisons of these higher cost lasers. It confirms mine do everything the bigger ones do, just maybe not as bright or far reaching.

@christophercrawford2736

4 жыл бұрын

I’m on their 20/60 V platform. Makes me not want to get those offensive lasers. Don’t wanna carry around another battery and charger

*Love it, try to make use of it as much as I can. I use a camera tripod to shot the laser at different elevations. I've used it to level Mosaic tiles, center garage door opener, and hang picture frames.The beam of light is bright enough for indoor use. The red laser beam can be difficult to see in well lit areas if your shooting the beam more than 20ft away, but I don't need to shoot the laser more than 20ft, so works great for my needs.*

YES!!!!!!! HOPEFULLY YALL DO THE BIG LANDSCAPE LASERS!

Another outstanding review Rob. Thanks again for sharing. All the best from North London UK

@ConcordCarpenter

5 жыл бұрын

Thanks Trev

As a sheet metal worker the 12volt green dewalt has been the best all around laser chalk line I have used. Battery life is great, line brightness is good, accuracy is better than usually even need, and the range is great indoors. Anything beyond 75ft and I’m reaching for a rotary laser anyway.

Can I ask for another metric?How far away from the wall does a laser need to be to display a verticall line on the celing? (Standard height)I bough a Bosh entry level cross laser and was unhappily supprised to see that the device needed to be quite far away to display the line high enough to the ceeling. In thight spaces like bathrooms, this is bad.

In regards to the Stabila- (I just purchased it last month as a birthday gift to myself) when you tested it, and you used the feature to turn the lasers on with the pendulum locked- did they always flash with a strobe-like effect? I tried to contact them to see if this was normal but just realized they never got back to me. Standard level and plumb are rock solid after self-leveling. I was just curious since the strobe can be a bit annoying, especially if I were to want to strike a line at some particular angle like for a stair railing or such.

HI, I'm a pro joiner, i have an old 20yrs+ Stabila 03050 Self-levelling Compact Laser, it has no bag, it's always lived in the van rattling around on it's rubber corners, it still works as new 👍 it only has a vertical line & a horizontal dot, I've had a few cross line lasers but they died quite quickly so a couple of yrs ago i bought an expensive cross line Bosch, that died about a yr ago, don't even think it reached it's two yr birthday 😕 Sick of buying rubbish I'll def be buying the Stabila, I should have done so yrs ago, My Stabila hand levels along with my laser are still going strong after all others have fallen. The Stabila 1m with die-cast frame is 30yrs old & still the one i trust.

Good video Rob. Always excellent work from you guys! I have a video request. I noticed in this video some of the scenes show strapping on the ceiling. That’s something we don’t do here in the Midwest or in the south where I used to live. Can you guys do a video on the benefits and why you guys use this system? Also how you do it, how thick the strapping is and is it strong enough to hang drywall from, etc. Basically anything you would teach an apprentice on the subject. I hope that is something you guys can do. All the best! Ron

Hello, I think you are the first person on KZread to mention the quality of the laser line itself...it would be great if you elaborated a little more on the laser line itself, how thin or thick it is in mm, how sharp, how equally the brightness of the laser line is distributed... observe the entire line... such a review would be much appreciated

Is Bosch the only one that will shine the laser in a diagonal line, in a slope, to install a stairway handrail or adjust slope of a deck?

I have an old Stabila red dot laser placed on a tripod. The red dot is visible outside. I have also purchased the Bosch green laser, with tripod and horizontal and vertical lines, that are visible inside BUT virtually invisible outside. I had to use a sheet of Xerox paper to barely see the green line on the target. For me, the green laser is only good inside.

I’m looking at purchasing my first laser for use mostly inside my house but possibly outside as well for use building a new deck. What color laser would you recommend? Do you have a video to review indoor/outdoor lasers?

Fantastic This has helped me a bit more in my research

can these lasers be used to align & square wall plates on concrete slab ?

Where is the comparison test(for example, line accuracy test, line thickness(DCE088G’s line is too thick), laser flickering as DCE089G’s laser flickering, line brightness, etc)part in movie?

Great review/test as usual. I wish you had included the Klein unit.

I am looking for

can you use a different brand's receiver for the builder's level?

Can they be used for floor tiles. Two perpendicular and a diagonal line on the floor

I am looking for a outdoor visible laser that's a 90 degree corner laser for laying out J bolts on wet concrete footings that's at different height......yea I know a bit tricky......for steel beam construction, anyone knows of one thanks

I have the green and red 1st AA battery line lasers and I often go to 100' with no change in accuracy. The only down fall with the green laser is the line gets very thick over 75' so I tend to use the red.

I couldn’t believe it when you said the stabila had a 15 hour runtime , I have the bosch green laser that has the red plumb bob out the top and bottom and it only lasts a few hours at best !

I have the Bosch 15m model and LOVE it!

@ConcordCarpenter

4 жыл бұрын

Me too!

Good review! How come you didn't test or mention the Bosch 12v?

Perfect timing ..thank you

I have the DW089K for few years. It's a Red laser. it's almost impossible to use outside except in the shadow and close to the wall. How would you rate the green laser power compared to the red ? Which one would you pick for exterior use ?

@ConcordCarpenter

5 жыл бұрын

Better but still not great on a bright day

Amazing , it would be awesome to have un updated comparaison with Milwaukee and Makita thank you for all these great reviews

@ConcordCarpenter

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the idea!

i love how much technology is advancing and making trades easy and fun. growing up i thought nothing would replace corded tools and bubble levels. but look how foolish i was lol i wonder what's next solar/light powered tools, constant wireless charging perhaps? can't wait

How do you use the cross laser level on the roof pitch 12 12 so that you can put your metal roof panels on straight? the line goes left or right nephew go off center. How do you know where center is to begin with?

@ConcordCarpenter

5 жыл бұрын

not sure

I Bought the Bosch and Feel Good About it... A Thin Line for Finish work... Greg

i don't understand why you have so little subscribers...your channel is in the top 3 out there

Can the Stabila laser be used with diagonal cross lines?

Another great video.

Great review. Bang for buck. Im Going to try the Huepar from Amazon. Wish me luck!!!

@ConcordCarpenter

5 жыл бұрын

Good luck Sir

really nice review, it was missing the Sola lasers though!

@ConcordCarpenter

3 жыл бұрын

Next time!

A sawzall blade screwed to the wall works great for the magnet base

@ConcordCarpenter

4 жыл бұрын

Great Tip

@djfglobal3377

4 жыл бұрын

That is a fantastic tip

@christophercrawford2736

4 жыл бұрын

Does it have to be Sawzall or any recip blade?

Nice job thanks well done

Very well done.

Good review

The Bosch also comes in 12v worth it in long run save alot on batteries

Can the dewalts laser beam be locked so the laser doesn't move around or self level?

@ConcordCarpenter

5 жыл бұрын

Don’t thin so, but honestly can’t remember. I should have mentioned that

Always a great review Robert. I would though like your thoughts on the Johnson which seems similar to the Stabila. I recently purchased the Bosch and hope I find it useful and long-lasting tool. I purchased mine at Home Depot and it came in a little bag like the Stabila.

@EM-fi2qg

5 жыл бұрын

All the Home Depot's in California have removed the Bosch laser in favor of Dewalt unfortunately.

@ConcordCarpenter

5 жыл бұрын

heystarfish100 we didn’t look at Johnson , PLS or Hilti which are also good lasers.

Hi Robert, I’m a tile contractor in NY this relates to your Wedi video you put out about 2 years ago I think but my question is when you want to use wedi board do you just make that call and add it in your cost or do you have to get the ok from the client? This is something I’m trying to get better at I want to use these new systems but a lot of customers don’t even consider them due to cost pls your thoughts and I just subscribe love the videos

@ConcordCarpenter

5 жыл бұрын

Both - Im leaning on just making the call and using one product.

@rmtile7126

5 жыл бұрын

If that is the case and let’s say I like shlutter your saying I should buy it and use it and just charge the client that extra cost for materials?

@ConcordCarpenter

5 жыл бұрын

RM Tile yes! You need to educate and sell them on why Schluter is the best. You only use the best because of ..... xyz features. Make sense?

@rmtile7126

5 жыл бұрын

Yes makes sense thank you!

@ConcordCarpenter

5 жыл бұрын

I make the call - it's my level of quality, so I factor it into my costs.

Is there a laser that can do a cross on ceiling , im an electrician and i use 2 laser for place my ceiling ring light espacially when i have many in line , just wonder if one can do the job of 2 at a time

@kirbyspencer538

3 жыл бұрын

You are looking for a 'three plane' laser, instead of a cross-fire. Do yourself a favor and get the vertical plumb dot in it as well if you do lots of ceilings.

If at all possible, please do a comparison review on 360 degree lasers.

@ConcordCarpenter

5 жыл бұрын

Chuehue Yang it’s on our list

@chuehueyang143

5 жыл бұрын

@@ConcordCarpenter Awesome!!! Keep up with the great videos. I watch every one of THEM!

@ilonestarsoldier8552

5 жыл бұрын

Hiltis PM 40-MG will be the best at that

What an excellent video.

Most accurate...that’s all I needed to know

@2cthetruth

3 жыл бұрын

Onyx, another hack besides yourself is to smear peanut butter downtown and let your dog clean up the mess.

great vid thanks!

MY stabila 300g laser went out of accuracy after 3 months, Sent it in for warranty and they refused. Guarantee that soft case is the problem as it gets no protection from anything. just riding around in my van probably screwed it up. Waste of 350$!

@ConcordCarpenter

5 жыл бұрын

sorry to hear that

@kodicochran5251

5 жыл бұрын

Should've bought a Hilti

@eddymetaldiy4035

5 жыл бұрын

yomaybe you can fix it kzread.info/dash/bejne/eXyEmaOle9i9eaQ.html

Hilti PM 40 mG the best for today and 360° lines.

Pls180 just went out of level so I’m in the market.Was so happy to see this review since I was interested in the Stabila . Price is never a concern with me as long as I’m buying quality I run dewalt on pretty much 90% of my tools but I am going with Stabila because it’s for interior carpentry and I don’t want a laser line that is an 1/8 or 3/16 wide.

@wildtwindad

5 жыл бұрын

Send the pls bak. They will send u a new one stat. I do it every 2 yrs or so.

@gtjr1975

5 жыл бұрын

wildtwindad why do they send u a new one? Are they guaranteed for life or something ? TY

@wildtwindad

5 жыл бұрын

@@gtjr1975 Not exactly sure now. Pls was bought up by fluke tools so some of the warranties may have changed. Give them a call is all I can say. I love mine and have been waiting for a green line pls but it may be a while.

Great review, thanks Rob! It is too bad that none of the lasers has the option of being powered by popular rechargeable USB power banks. Dewalt has done a great job integrating into their 12 volt line, too bad Bosch hasn't taken a similar approach with its tri-lobe style batteries.

@craigfinno551

5 жыл бұрын

Hilti does the usb recharching

Does the Bosch laser level's vertical line go upto the ceiling??

@ConcordCarpenter

5 жыл бұрын

Kripesh Sasi yes

Love my dewalt multi line green laser DCE089D1G-XE

A great review on green lasers. Another option is the the Dewalt DW088LR red laser, I use it every day at work to measure out of plumb and level surfaces for shower glass and mirrors. The red laser has a finer line than the green, but I measure from the edge of the line anyway. They are very versatile tools, and much easier than lugging around spirit levels. The DW088LR comes with a 12v battery box that uses 4 AA batteries or it can use the 12v Lithium Ion rechargeable batteries. It's priced at only $177.00, because it doesn't come with the two rechargeable batteries and charger. They are fairly efficient on batteries anyway, using the laser roughly an hour a day, standard batteries last almost a year. I believe the locking pendulum is very important to ensure the accuracy long term, and wouldn't buy a model without that feature. I've been impressed with the versatility, reliability and accuracy of this tool in everyday use in the field.

@ConcordCarpenter

5 жыл бұрын

and PLS or Hilti

For future reference, IPxx means Ingress Protection, with the trailing two digits defining the level of the protection. Essentially the type and size of elements that can 'access' the device being rated.

Where can I get the green battery dewalt for 157

@ConcordCarpenter

5 жыл бұрын

Craig Finno look at Amazon, prices change

Great review. I wish more of the old school carpenters would use these tools, but some people are stubborn as mules lol!

@whitacrebespoke

5 жыл бұрын

kookiemoose I’m 36 and only work on heritage buildings. I work with my eye a lot as it never lies. That said if I was setting footings or forms I use my 360 big lazer you’d be surprised how much more a decent old school water level or spirit level can be in the correct hands. All that said I’ve got an interior fit out to do on a barn conversion soon and am looking to possibly buy an interior lazer.

@kookiemoose

5 жыл бұрын

Adam Lynch that’s great. I use spirit levels almost everyday, and I trust them. They do however become cumbersome in certain applications where a laser does not.

@BiggMo

5 жыл бұрын

Adam Lynch - agreed, Heritage buildings rarely have level and plumb structures to start with. Parallel trumps plumb when installing something that gonna look pleasing to the eye. You have to know how to cheat.

@whitacrebespoke

5 жыл бұрын

Gr8 M9ds parallel every time. If it looks right it is right.

@BiggMo

5 жыл бұрын

Adam Lynch : sometimes splitting distances is Necessary, like in a narrow space between corners of different angles - experienced carpenters know how to manipulate the eye.

If you're short on time, skip to 11:50 where he gives a great summary.

which laser level would be best for pitching pipe (plumbing) everyone wants self leveling but i need oneo that i can pitch ??

@ConcordCarpenter

5 жыл бұрын

felipe dos santos Dewalt or Stabilia

next up, the top level 3x360degree lasers?

@josegomez6549

5 жыл бұрын

That's what we all wanna know

Do not forget to throw PLS lasers into the mix.

@ConcordCarpenter

5 жыл бұрын

wildtwindad great laser, first one I ever owned

@ConcordCarpenter

5 жыл бұрын

yep were doing some now

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Accuracy of 1/8” in 30’ - i guess that could be acceptable for some applications, assuming you can get consistent registration off a fuzzy line and eliminate human error. But I’m so OCD I just cant get behind using a laser for everything, despite its convince. I know its awkward, but for accuracy you can’t beat an old school water line level. It’s not always just about speed.

@ConcordCarpenter

5 жыл бұрын

Gr8 M9ds water lines don’t lie or need line of sight

@BiggMo

5 жыл бұрын

A Concord Carpenter / ToolBoxBuzz - if your channel is looking for review ideas - i would love someone to end the LineX vs Rhino lining debate. I have a new work truck to get sprayed and I’m not sure which to use.

@BiggMo

5 жыл бұрын

Sidowse : do you know the difference between a water level and a spirt level?

@BiggMo

5 жыл бұрын

Sidowse : your description of a water level is a little off. On its most basic design, its just a vented container and thin flexible clear hose of ANY length attached to the bottom edged. Purge the air from the hose, Place the container anywhere in the room (central is standard) with the surface of the water at the exact height you want to mark and ANYWHERE you walk in the room the water level in the hose will always exactly match the level in the container. You could mark a wall 50, 100, 200, 300 (wall, room whatever) feet long with with an accuracy of about 1/32”. Your only limited by your length of hose and the sharpness of your pencil.

@ConcordCarpenter

5 жыл бұрын

Oh man - old school - LOVE IT

Well done.

You didn´t compair vertikal laser angel range,

very useful

If I made a video comparing KZread tool comparison reviewers. You would win in all categories

@ConcordCarpenter

5 жыл бұрын

well.... why don't you? ;)

@ConcordCarpenter

5 жыл бұрын

Logan - thanks!!

IP = Ingress Protection. Great vid btw, I was between buying a red or a green dewalt. For what i require Il save the $100 and buy a red one. Thanks for the info.

@ConcordCarpenter

5 жыл бұрын

Aled Jones - The IP Code, International Protection Marking, sometimes interpreted as Ingress Protection Marking, classifies and rates the degree of protection provided against intrusion, dust, and water by mechanical casings and electrical enclosures.

''Its powered by two AA batteries'' continues to put 3 batteries in

Great video thanks!

IP Rating means Ingress Protection Rating.

How can you compare lasers and not put PLS in there

@ConcordCarpenter

5 жыл бұрын

we're reviewing them now. There' so many laser out there including Hilti, etc

@pacemetalfab

5 жыл бұрын

@@ConcordCarpenter , looking forward to seeing your Hilti review.

IP ingress protection

I know this doesn't have anything to do with lasers... but I don't see any comparisons on KZread for thickness planers. I have no doubt, as with all your other comparisons, it will be the most thorough and best on KZread. Soooo..... please.....

@ConcordCarpenter

5 жыл бұрын

A lot of folks have asked the same thing. I'll certainly consider it

@ConcordCarpenter

5 жыл бұрын

Coming out soon - Planer H2H

"Luuke, I am your Fahther" whoa-pah

IP stands for 'Ingress Protection' - not International protection rating

@ConcordCarpenter

5 жыл бұрын

The IP Code, International Protection Marking, sometimes interpreted as Ingress Protection Marking, classifies and rates the degree of protection provided against intrusion, dust, and water by mechanical casings and electrical enclosures.

@markhardacre1

5 жыл бұрын

A Concord Carpenter / ToolBoxBuzz IP (or "Ingress Protection") ratings are defined in international standard EN 60529 (British BS EN 60529:1992, European IEC 60509:1989). They are used to define levels of sealing effectiveness of electrical enclosures against intrusion from foreign bodies (tools, dirt etc) and moisture.

@ConcordCarpenter

5 жыл бұрын

@@markhardacre1 Same language Mark - different approaches ..... The IP Code, International Protection Marking, sometimes interpreted as Ingress Protection Marking, classifies and rates the degree of protection provided against intrusion, dust, and water by mechanical casings and electrical enclosures.

@markhardacre1

5 жыл бұрын

Can’t argue with that, You say Potato .... good video bud 👍🏻👍🏻

@rickwookie

5 жыл бұрын

@@ConcordCarpenter "...sometimes interpreted as Ingress Protection...", well yeah because the 'I' in 'IP' stands for "Ingress", always has. It's never stood for "International".

Why couldn't DeWalt go with the much more common 20 volt batteries? I have lots of 20 volt tools and batteries already.

@maxp5422

5 жыл бұрын

12v batteries are affordable

@gregorylondos534

5 жыл бұрын

I believe the 12-volt battery is more compact than a 20 volt...

@brianmoore581

5 жыл бұрын

Obviously 12 volt is going to be the smaller battery, but it's not like the 20 volt is heavy. Based on price alone, this tool is not aimed at the homeowner market. I would assume that most folks with an interest in this tool are professional or at least higher end handymen, so they have probably already committed to a battery like DeWalt's 20 volt tools, meaning they already have multiple batteries on hand for all their cordless tools. Battery price and weight become pretty much irrelevant in that situation. I glanced at battery prices on Amazon and it seems that the difference in price for 20 volt and a roughly equivalent amp hour rated 12 volt battery is about $15, so not really a big deal anyway. I just don't want to have multiple types of batteries and chargers to worry about and replace when they die. I already upgraded to DeWalt's lithium 20 volt tools from their old 18 volt NiCad batteries several years ago. I have a lot of batteries already that are interchangeable in all my tools. I doubt that I am alone in that regard. I think most of the people who might have an interest in this particular tool are probably similar to me. Why not just make it a 20 volt tool? That's my opinion.

IP stands for Ingress Protection. Just sayin'

@ConcordCarpenter

5 жыл бұрын

That's how you learned it in laymen terms. The IP Code, "International Protection Marking," sometimes interpreted as Ingress Protection Marking, classifies and rates the degree of protection provided against intrusion, dust, and water by mechanical casings and electrical enclosures.

great

The Dewalt AA is not near as bright as the Bosch. I did the test myself. Also the front/down beam hits the floor closer on the Bosch. I got the kit with tripod stands

@ConcordCarpenter

5 жыл бұрын

Frank B interesting! This was more of a casual test than compared to our head-2-head tests, that are very strict on test criteria’s. The judging of brightness was subjective, and two of us independently ranked the lines and compared notes. Additionally, we included a photo of what we saw/voted on - shown several times in the video. Now you have me wondering if the BOSCH sent their unit with older, not as powerful batteries. In our testing the Bosch unit indicated low battery before the others. I’m gonna get fresh batteries and test this again.

@frankb8616

5 жыл бұрын

That was the first thing I thought as well with the Dewalt, that the batteries were low or not as charged as the Bosch batteries but we changed them and still.. also the Bosch was slightly fatter and blurry where the Dewalt looked as if it constricted and redefined itself after the level stopped moving making a tighter line to go by. I'm still happy with the purchase I just wish it matched the Bosch in brightness. you may want to run the test in moderately lit daylight.

IP stands for Ingress Protection, iirc.

@ConcordCarpenter

5 жыл бұрын

Edgar Hume correct it’s used to define levels of sealing effectiveness of electrical enclosures against intrusion from foreign bodies (tools, dirt etc) and moisture.

@ConcordCarpenter

5 жыл бұрын

Edgar Hume The IP Code, International Protection Marking, sometimes interpreted as Ingress Protection Marking, classifies and rates the degree of protection provided against intrusion, dust, and water by mechanical casings and electrical enclosures.

Red is still good, ive used dwo89k, by far the best laser dewalts ever made(opinion) going on 5 years, day in and day out

@ConcordCarpenter

5 жыл бұрын

z fuhq I still have one

You tested it and you agreed. It came in second place. And I'm not sure that it's even in second place.

Not having a rechargeable battery is a deal breaker . Most of these lasers only last a day.

IP stands for Ingress Protection, not international

@ConcordCarpenter

4 жыл бұрын

Christopher Crawford thanks

Ingress protection

first is always bosch (boss). employee... always second... maybe third, except u married bos's daughter.

У меня Stabila

I don’t care for Bosch lasers. Inferior quality when compared to DeWalt and twice the price for what you get. The magnets on the back of a Bosch line laser I used was so weak i wouldn’t trust it to hold up a picture on my refrigerator. Also, green lasers definitely has greater visibility over red. I install ceilings for a living and that green is just a pleasure to work with. Even in direct sunlight

@maxp5422

5 жыл бұрын

I have to disagree with that they are comparable id say the Bosch is stronger

Plus or minus 1/8" in 30 ft is not very accurate for laser work. Also the distance of use stated on the box is bogus. !46' and at 32' the red line was invisible. These are crap.

The second dewalt has no place in your comparison it makes no sense go put a 1 12 v platform laser in there. It's like testing 12v drills and then adding an 18v and saying the 18v is the best

stabila all the way .

Oh yeah…………🗣MACKEATER!