"Cracka Barrel" is too low! The Old Man's Garage Malibu played a bad trick on Moroso Trick Springs!
As we're fond of saying here around the shop, anything worth doing once is worth doing twice so let's take this G Body front suspension apart again! Unfortunately for us, and Bill, the Moroso Trick Springs for the front of this car although they give excellent travel aren't rated for the weight this thing carries over the nose. Steel bumper, steel fenders, hood, all the accessories, and a small block... it's just too much weight and crushing the springs down to the bump stops.
So, back to the old setup we go! These old springs SEEM to be the original ones to the car and have the nose pretty low even as is. Seeing as we still have them in 1 piece and a stiffer Trick Spring isn't available for a few days... The Old Man's Garage Malibu is going back together with "stock" springs so he can keep on rolling. Unfortunately with the change in ride height there WILL be a few adjustments needed on the alignment though not much so a quick little touch up on the rack and she's ready to roll.
For those who are curious as to the tool we use for the coil spring installation and removal that is from OTC, part number is..
OTC 7045B
Huge thanks as always to all our subscribers, followers, fans, and customers who have made our business successful and gotten our channel to where it is today. Special thanks to the SRC / Street Racing Channel / SRC Garage / Old Man's Garage / Junkyard Digs folks for showing such amazing support for us over the past several months. Without all of you we wouldn't be anywhere near where we are today. We hope you enjoy this one!
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Spring Compressor for those interested! OTC 7045B
It is good seeing something other than a hack doing work on KZread! Keep up the great work!
@LucoreAuto
Жыл бұрын
That's one thing we try to show on our channel is the RIGHT way to do stuff, as a business that stands behind our work it's THE most important thing. Not knocking the sketchy/creative/KZreadr way of things, it's just not for us 😉
@peskypeet
Жыл бұрын
@@LucoreAuto 100% Appreciate people like you. I can't tell you how many times I've seen mechanics who just don't give a damn.
Rich, you know you`re never supposed to drop your nuts!! Great job as always!!
@LucoreAuto
Жыл бұрын
Sometimes it happens, OK, all the time it happens! Not sure if it's old age... or just gravity.
Great post! thank you for taking the time to make this.
I don't understand what the problem could be, you know old man Bill drives ever so gently,. I heard him say before how he feathers the throttle!
@LucoreAuto
Жыл бұрын
Heard that recently too, the whole family is quite gentle and reasonable on the throttle peddle don't ya know?! ;)
@jasonhastings5538
Жыл бұрын
Sunday drives!!!!😁😁😁
@franker1111
Жыл бұрын
I feel popping the ball joint would have been much quicker, but I no you no what your doing. That's an awesome spring compressor
@LucoreAuto
Жыл бұрын
@@franker1111 Big Big fan of that thing, money VERY well spent. No more sketchy spring installs!
@LucoreAuto
Жыл бұрын
@@jasonhastings5538 with nice leisurely fuel sipping peddle pressure.
Please post where you got your spring compressor. That is nicest one I've ever seen. Slick Rick right there!
@jameswoodward6312
Жыл бұрын
10-4...!! I'm curious if it's universal ( lb/in ) or diameter ?? I'd be a nice piece for sure
@LucoreAuto
Жыл бұрын
Put the spring compressor info into a pinned comment on here as well as the video description. Nice OTC piece you can get for a very reasonable price. 👍
Excellent service
I'm Ready to see Billy's truck on the rack
@LucoreAuto
Жыл бұрын
Rendering it right now should be up for tonight 😀
That clown spring goes with Bills clown foot,lol I'm sorry almost wish I hadn't heard Billy say that.Good video 👍
Rich you are such a good sport, shit happens for sure when it comes to cars.
@LucoreAuto
Жыл бұрын
Yessir, that's just hot rodding. Most things don't go according to plan, roll with it adapt and overcome.
I less put new ones back in William 😂 great video love this car family who's been building it.
Good show!
Great job Rich sure would like to know what you did with those calipers to make them so free and how much longer you had to make sway bar end links keep the videos coming
@LucoreAuto
Жыл бұрын
We're going to make a brake video to address that question here probably next week. Didn't realize quite how many people were interested in that!
@brucefrye8799
Жыл бұрын
Thanks in advance for the brake video because I myself am very interested
@gasparsperformance9841
Жыл бұрын
Definitely looking forward to that video
@whereisamerica7384
Жыл бұрын
@@LucoreAuto very interested in the brake video. Thanks
Another fine job Rich.
@LucoreAuto
Жыл бұрын
Thanks Keith really appreciate it and your supporting us!
Nice work.
Gravity is a great drinking game
@LucoreAuto
Жыл бұрын
Only for those with a very strong liver 😉
You're a funny dude Rich!!! Thanks for this alternative way to change out those springs. Done many, and that compressor looks like gold...may consider one
Nice job Rich , your videos are always interesting and educational .
Those springs had to be miss boxed. Good video!
@LucoreAuto
Жыл бұрын
Not misboxed just weren't up to the task of how much weight this Malibu carries across the nose. They have a weight rating and this Ole girl is a BIT heavy up front 😉
I need to invest in a compressor like yours..!! Oh boy it looked simple. Being a mechanic , I love watching how you tackle things and using " COMMON SENSE'!! Thanks for letting us ride along !! Btw...that Winalign is getting easier by the day!!!
@LucoreAuto
Жыл бұрын
Thanks James, just posted it in a pinned comment on here. Have a feeling OTC is going to sell a few of those things after folks watch this video! BEST investment a mechanic can make is a good tool to make your job simpler and SAFER!
@jameswoodward6312
Жыл бұрын
@@LucoreAuto Yessir...!! I worked for Chevron Corporation for years and a tenant of operation was " Use the right tool for the job " !! That tool is the easiest I've ever seen !! So , you should be " compensated " for your time!!! IMHO!!! Thanks for sharing your tools ...!! You could have easily kept it a secret !!! Thanks , Brother
I love that car...love watching its journey...that family,Bill especially,can build a street car...now Uncle Rob and Billy build the real fast stuff,And Gen 2 Garage does some fun stuff...I can't wait til spring and all these money pits get out and earn their keep....nice work Rich...must feel good to be trusted with their fleet of vehicles...Bill sent me here a while ago and I have enjoyed the content,best wishes from Minnesota...
So Rich has the ( best damn garage in town) after all...I would go out of my way to take my cars to lucore automotive for service
You are a natural !! I pretty sure that comes with knowing what you're doing !! Keep up with the good content !!
Love those wheels also that year of Malibu. Wrench on brother. Good to watch quality work.
Was waiting on this 2 parter
Great content, I appreciate the fact you explain things. Someone that has a street rod that from time to time that needs a little help with things.
I to love my OTC spring compressor the more it gets used the better it gets. I'm real proficient changing springs in s10's and g bodies LOL.
@LucoreAuto
Жыл бұрын
It's amazing how much time is saved once you find a great tool to help you get a job done. We're certainly loving this thing and have already done MORE than enough work with it to justify the purchase price
“I’m gonna win… I just don’t wanna bleed doing it” Can’t tell you How many times I heard that from my dad underneath a car.
@jasonhastings5538
Жыл бұрын
Yes!!!!!!😁😁😁
Should just get some Springs for a V6 Malibu. That's what I always use.
@LucoreAuto
Жыл бұрын
The stock springs ARE V6 springs 😉
@MichiganQuadTrailsTales
Жыл бұрын
@@LucoreAuto Oh I did not realize that, then they should be good to go!
@LucoreAuto
Жыл бұрын
@@MichiganQuadTrailsTales well... they are also likely original to the car so.... more than 40 years of doing their job 😉
I'm just waiting for the 1/4 panel to buckle
@markwise9868
Жыл бұрын
Needs a cage for sure!
Nice Job Rich. I was hoping you might show the trick for the front calipers to spin freely. but totally understand if you cant for legal reasons. Thanks for the vid and stay safe.
I Have had really good luck using stock springs with a lot of miles on them(stock shocks too)with my 98 T/A with a Moser 9" rear removing the front sway bar up front, adding a huge UMI rear sway bar and cheep subframe connectors, adjustable rear bars for instant centering. The huge sway bar in the rear actually keeps the car from swaying and rolling on the street and track! With 28x10.5 Hoosier ddr2's I get 1.53 60 foot times with just a 98 mph 1/8 mile.
Great video as always! Educational 👍
Sure looks bad ass low like that but the ride ,it’s all about the ride 😳😳😳😳😳😳😁😁😁
Only to get the groceries on Friday.....Lol you work on anything Rich.
Lol all of that was awesome, but I never got to see you tighten the control arm nuts. It’s driving me crazy.
I think Bill just does this to generate more youtube content.
@LucoreAuto
Жыл бұрын
Not even remotely. He was extremely disheartened and apologetic for the extra work and time we had to put into redoing this
Thanks for another great video you guys always do a great job on everything you put your hands on keep up the great work. Wish I were closer to get an alignment on my street/strip 1968 camaro like Bill's it a 10 second N/A street car nobody around here knows how to align a street/strip car
You need to send that brake caliper trick to Jimmy Dale !! He's having fits with the calipers on the Magic Johnson Mustang!!
Nice job like all the information from the videos and awesome to share what tools you use for others to know what ones the need or should have to do the job the safe and right way
You think gravity attacks you a lot? I'm only 5'7"... Pfft ... I blame gravity for that B.S. 😅😂🤣
Many, many years ago I was reading an early 70's Pontiac service manual and it recommended taking those two bolts out to change the front coils. I was putting front coils under my 56 Chevrolet so I thought I would try it. Worked great. Didn't need a spring compressor because of the geometry of lowering the inside of the A arm instead of the outside. I was laying on my back and just used a floor jack to lower the A arm slowly. I guess if you are going to be replacing the ball joints and or bushings maybe doing the outside is better but it sure seemed easier to me because I didn't have a spring compressor and didn't need one. May not work on all cars.
Looks like Exit 27, AKA Summit, Tallmadge (originally Owatonna has the best price on this Owatonna Tool Company compressor, was acquired by Sealed Power Corporation (now SPX Corporation) of Muskegon, MI. In December 2012 SPX was purchased by Robert Bosch GmbH and OTC became part of their Bosch Automotive Service Solutions division. Hopefully Bosch is smart enough to NOT screw up the OTC product line. Until about 3 minuets ago I thought the name was Ottumwa, for Radar" O'Reilly home town, In Iowa. Huh, screw around & learn sumthin..
Years ago I had to use 1" rubber coil spring spacers. They worked and fit great.i don't know if they would help the Malibu or not.
Part# 47170 is what he needed (big block Malibu and/or Camaro)…but since his has AC, they go by weight. Those are rated at 2100-2200lb front end weight👌🏼
@RealSteelStreet
Жыл бұрын
I daily drive with them on a C1500 with a BBC & AC…matched my 5” drop rear with no cutting. My truck weighs 2500lbs out front, so I KNOW it’ll keep his off the bump stops! Possibly actually WILL have to cut those a little for his car 🤷🏻♂️ Remember, if they say “small block Malibu” they’re referring to a gutted/lighter drag type car. But, as I said they have a specific weight rating and at 3800lbs his car should be 2100-2200lbs on the front based on 55-58% guesstimate👍🏼 They drive just fine when rated correctly!
Maybe lube will help your tool from getting stuck great video Rich ✌️
@LucoreAuto
Жыл бұрын
Yessir! Proper lubrication is important!
Correct me if I'm wrong, but shouldn't the stock style vulcanized rubber control arm bushings/bolts be tightened down with the vehicle sitting at its' normal ride height? If you tighten them down at one end of its' travel, it will overly twist the rubber like a torsion spring, change ride height, and cause rubber to prematurely tear out when flexed through full range of travel. Aftermarket polyurethane style bushings pivot like a hinge, and you can tighten them down in any position of travel.
I know how you feel Rich when you drop your nuts I lost 1 and I can safely say it was from gravity lol keep up the awesome content and as always be safe 👍
I can't wait until you put out a video on your brakes and the tricks you use on the old man's car if it's doable I might just have to try it on my car if for anything else it's got to help out the fuel mileage on my car
Yep I had to run rubber spacers along time ago.
@dondotterer24
Жыл бұрын
There wre 1" if I remember
The hard way!
Why not a 1 - 1.5" spring block? Wouldn't that give you the clearance with the added range and spring rate for the application?
I hope my nuts never go to Neverland sorry I couldn't help but to go there 🤣 you guys are great lucore automotive = QUALITY STANDARDS 🙌
I usually just take the upper ball joint loose pull caliper easy love them otc spring compressors.
I am waiting to how you fixed he's disk brake drag . Bill said you did this in his video
I was wondering what happened with Austin videos of the 2500 2500
@LucoreAuto
Жыл бұрын
Still working on the edits for Day 2, should be ready to go for next week. It's a biiiiig video with a ton of footage to edit together. Gonna get it out as soon as we can though!
I'm surprised Bill hasn't put tubular control arms with a coil over shocks on loose some weight on the front. I bet if he put fiber glass bumpers on would help , if Bill lost 50 lbs he would be faster /every 100 lbs is a 10 of a second . Good job
Hey guys good video as usual! Bill explained that rich has a little trick he does to the brakes to get them to free wheel very good. What exactly is that? It’s pretty unusual that factory brakes have hardly no drag like that. Thanks
Nice. #!!! 😊😊😊
Pretty sure there were v6 springs as well? Not sure of what's going on with all the different aftermarket options anymore, never had the inclination to experiment with them. If it was mine, I'd go with jounce bars. Jegs has an interesting brace kit. They may also offer an underhood kit.
Rich I am waiting for you to fix the speedometer and fuel gauge in Miss vickies c10
Can you show us how you modified the front brakes to roll with minimal resistance?
@LucoreAuto
Жыл бұрын
Going to make a video next week to specifically address that. Didn't realize it would be such a hit!
@nimrodisthefuture
Жыл бұрын
@@LucoreAuto still waiting on the brake video😮😮😢
What is the part number on the longer sway bar links?
Great Tradecraft sir, you do nice work indeed.
That car was originally a V6 so they're V6 Springs
@LucoreAuto
Жыл бұрын
Indeed. AND likely the original ones from 1979!
@eds1990sporty
Жыл бұрын
@@LucoreAuto I had a 78 Malibu. It came with a V6. I put a 30 over LT1 engine in it. I had to swap out the V6 Briggs for the B8 Springs. I smooth out the knurls on the control arm bushings when I replace them which allow the front end to come up a lot quicker
Hey what are y’all taking on the Hot Rod power tour this year?
I can't remember if that was a factory v6 car or not. If it wasn't would the v6 springs have been a good compromise?
@LucoreAuto
Жыл бұрын
It was indeed a factory V6 car and these are those original springs from 1979... so they sit pretty darn low as is. There are likely options ahead in the near future 😉
anyone else see that rubber gromet fall off the top of the spring as he was trying to get his spring compressor free.....lol opps wonder if that went back???
Why not adjustable spring buckets?
Hey Bill, can you use a big block coil? and then just cut off a coil or two to set it at the right ride height??
@davidpittman5649
Жыл бұрын
I mean can you just cut, one or two coil's off, to set your ride height, that you want or need??
just did springs on my third gen boy were they sacked out
Rich who makes those lights that you use?
Watched Sick Week, the carnage was real for the racers...Just noticed No belly pan , or was it removed for upgrades?
13:20 what would grow the channel is give people a chance to win a cool car purchase some merchandise for each 5 dollar spent giving them a entry or two.. That mustang bill just got will make them enough to make things better and buy more cars and trucks
Those rims are really nice I wonder why bill don’t use the center caps.just a thought
@dirtfan05
Жыл бұрын
Because he doesn't have rear caps to show he has aftermarket axles, he figures it matches that way... caps on the front would look way better IMO.
Y did u put new different springs in it but not new different shocks?
How is it that you can do an alignment on scabby well worn tires and yet alignment shops ALWAYS insist on new tires? Are they just trying to sell new tires?
HOWdy LUCORE, ... Have you considered taking up the SPORT of " YO-YO " ? LOL I'm surprised that there is no OTHER Alternate SPRING to utilize ? COOP the WiSeNhEiMeR from Richmond, INDIANA ...
What size front tire is he running
Was hoping you were going to go over the brake "trick" you did to lessen drag. Bill mentioned you did something on his channel but didn't say exactly what you did.
@lb9gta307
Жыл бұрын
Figure out what GM did to the 1980 and up D154 calipers and you'll know.
What about that caliper trick???
No expert butt wouldn't big block springs help with more weight to the back end. Ps wish you were closer to me. You know your trade
Should have just upgraded the front springs to an 80s Monte SS coils
Looks like you got your cardio doing that?
What ever happened to the wrecked Capri face car...
@LucoreAuto
Жыл бұрын
Sitting quietly in storage waiting for a nose transplant 😞
@michaelgray2987
Жыл бұрын
@@LucoreAuto thank you
How are u guy doing with that toxic train stuff
come on rich tell us
Funny, it don't look like a fiat! 😉
Rich, I’m disappointed, I’ve always imagined you to talk to yourself all the time while working like your doing on the videos!
BILL. BILL. WE KNOW HOW TO DO FRONT END WORK AND ALIGNMENT S
Doesn't it irritate you when you install the parts the customer provided and they're the wrong parts? I hope you didn't change the springs for free.
Cool 😎. KZread I’m not a bot ! Quit removing my first comment.
@LucoreAuto
Жыл бұрын
No you're not! Promise it's not US doing it!
@Amxracer
Жыл бұрын
@@LucoreAuto I’m seeing it more and more on the pages I follow so I switch up my first comment so it’s not removed . I always try to give support to the KZreadr’s with “ like, share , and comment. It takes a lot work to be a content creator . 🤩
I wish they was a lukor around me
I ALWAYS USED A MOOG SPRING COMPRESSOR,IT HAD A LOND TUBED SOCKET LIKE INNER TIE ROD TOOL.USE AIR GUN ON IT,REPLACED ALOT OF BIG BLOCK SPRINGS