PC: makes noise above 1db Enthusiast: UNACCEPTABLE

@AAFroes

4 жыл бұрын

Justin Roiland's voice

@DumbguyMc

4 жыл бұрын

yeah never understood this when my headphones are noise cancelling, running dead by daylight with my fans at 100% using msi afterburner, i still cant hear them at all and theres 8-10 of them in my case

@ChrisPBacon9

4 жыл бұрын

I just used all Noctua fans and it got me close enough. Those things are insane

@notthere83

4 жыл бұрын

Indeed! It was quite painful for me to migrate from my gorgeous fanless machine to a laptop...

@turtlelore2

4 жыл бұрын

*PC parts developer releases part with 0.01% improvement over previous model* Enthusiast: MY COMPUTER IS TRASH NOW GOTTA BUILD A BRAND NEW ONE

14:24 "You can probably hear it" *turns up the volume to try to hear it* "GET ACCESS TO AMAZING GAMES!"

@Angga-vd6hf

4 жыл бұрын

Yep

@nikopfalzer2987

4 жыл бұрын

I love this channel for stuff like this. Everyone's personality is upbeat and I wish I had a work environment like this. :] I'm very envious of Linus' employees, they all deserve to have the great career they have. Linus is a great boss IMO, sorta reminds me of a little more serious Michael from the office Haha, he just knows when to be serious :]

@zacharycorriveau200

4 жыл бұрын

I read this comment first, still had to see if I could hear the bubbles by turning my volume up all the way. Still funny.

@h3s128

3 жыл бұрын

LOL idk why this comment made me laugh so hard..

@SergePupko

3 жыл бұрын

RIP ears... but at least that plug has now cured your tinnitus as you can't hear anything other than Linus in your head. 😂

"They're waiting for you, Gordon. In the test chamber"

@mrtuvok5578

4 жыл бұрын

power to stage 1 cache in 3 2 1

@outlinedbudgie4812

4 жыл бұрын

@@mrtuvok5578 WRRRRRRR

@zander07

3 жыл бұрын

ITS NOT SHUTTING DOWN!

@kodykj2112

3 жыл бұрын

WORT WORT WORT

@jameslovern9575

3 жыл бұрын

Hello Gordon!

Linus (ocztony here) I had a 4 board system for testing in a workshop, indirect water to water cooling as well as 4 outside mounted 360 rads in series, the loop actually coped with over 1kw spread over the 4 boards with ease, in the winter I could actually sub 0c cool a CPU or 2 for well over 4 hrs depending on outside temps. A closed loop 150w system is easy, just don't think overclocking and 100% load permanently. For say a HTPC yep well doable, 2 rads and the right design of block on the video and that can be cooled also. It's all about the block and rad design to get flow moving quickly. Shame I did not keep any pics, the pc stuff is a past life for me now. BTW the rad needs to be cross flow, rad tilted down from the horizontal, hot in the high end and cold out the low end, around 20deg from horizontal is best. If you want to move a ton of heat mount the rads outside ;)

@juniorslothsix5562

5 жыл бұрын

interesting, maybe a specially made case would work...

@twistedkap3882

5 жыл бұрын

Tony Leach was

@burtsimmons9691

4 жыл бұрын

Tony Leach no one wants to read all that garbage ab your potato pc

@iqcq2063

4 жыл бұрын

Dang man your smart to come up with this

@BeatSkippingRedGoat

4 жыл бұрын

yeah, that was what I was thinking when I saw him having the rad on the box tilted with the tubes up. Linus would get more cooled liquid get to the heatsink, if he tilted it the other way as you say in BTW. as he has it a lot of cooled liquid stays in the rad and only a small amount circulates, and it does not get enough time to cool down enough. some basic physics classes could be useful for Linus :)

Linus: "..By sitting through this.." Me: *double taps screen to fast forward 10secs *Video jumps to theme music

@daydream605

5 жыл бұрын

I knew one day that comment would arrive. We've all done it.

@_carter

5 жыл бұрын

LTT Just hearted a comment about skipping their promotion...

@lucasnestler6933

5 жыл бұрын

You totally didn't do that. Nobody does that. We all bought a PIA account right now. Right fellas?

@panquemadol

5 жыл бұрын

what the fuck that literally just happened

@CattleRustlerOCN

5 жыл бұрын

Triple tap went straight to mobo unboxing, noob

"TRULY SILENT COMPUTER!" *it's making bubbling boiling noises the whole time.

@oceanbytez847

4 жыл бұрын

well the final product may be better. Also worth noting boiling noises are WAY less noisy than several fast blowing fans.

@namefighter8426

4 жыл бұрын

@@oceanbytez847 also they can be relaxing lol

@mysticmarble94

4 жыл бұрын

@@namefighter8426 You gonna have tonpee the whole time while gaming 😂

@PandaMan02

4 жыл бұрын

The calyos case was quieter. i think that got cancelled though.

@112523

4 жыл бұрын

@@oceanbytez847 i have my entire system done with air cooling and i dont hear my system at all. maybe if i start focussing on it but otherwise i dont hear it

No moving parts Water: Am I a joke to you

@talhamunir1364

4 жыл бұрын

Water is not a "part"

@adamkent639

4 жыл бұрын

@@talhamunir1364 is it not

@talhamunir1364

4 жыл бұрын

@@adamkent639 what u mean

@okkomp

3 жыл бұрын

Water is part of a part but not a part. And its not even water

@chickencurry7642

3 жыл бұрын

What about the fans, though???

I usually have a stand fan running in my room when I use my comp. Never heard my pc fans. Drown out the pc fans with MOAR FANS

this looks like a click bait .... clicks on the video

@LinusTechTips

5 жыл бұрын

Actually real... :o

@Pantosoft

5 жыл бұрын

Linus Replied!

@loukask.9111

5 жыл бұрын

@JECubing They're trying to do that more often lastly, it seems. Probably have people looking at the comments for some time after having uploaded a vid.

@TheLilPorkChop

5 жыл бұрын

O mai gawd. HE LIIIIIIIIIIIIIVES!!!!!

@IbrahimMohammed-dd7xf

5 жыл бұрын

@@LinusTechTips actually yah ... as in case of LN2 as it is technically boiling at -195 ... but this ... this looks like fail ... prototyping for more than 3 years and still did not work out and why the hell people send u stuff that they surely know that it has almost zero success rate ? i mean do u actually give them ideas so they can work on?? then where the hell is their RND?

I still think that the Vodka cooled PC is the best one yet. As long as your PC doesn't get hotter than 26°C, there should be no problem, comrade.

@aeinarrkrigsson

5 жыл бұрын

Vodka > everything else

@kiyoponnn

5 жыл бұрын

Boris.

@danielkrogh9748

5 жыл бұрын

stay cheeky breeky

@TheCatpirate

5 жыл бұрын

@@danielkrogh9748 *Cheeki Breeki

@CollinTheSav

5 жыл бұрын

Yet it had a pump of sort.

12:15 - Linus finally reading the manual how to arrange the setup for something which heavily relies on physics and therefore of course on the positioning of its elements...

@kleetus92

2 жыл бұрын

And then continually moves it around destroying any steady state flow characteristics it's trying to use...

This is called thermosiphoning. It was used in a lot of early water cooled engines (Ford model T for example).

@arkie87

4 жыл бұрын

thermosyphons are the best syphons

@ThomasLancheros-kg1nl

4 жыл бұрын

Yea I knew that

@TheSpidersoftheworld

3 жыл бұрын

i have done the same thing with 3m's submersion liquid drain out your radiator add the 3m liquid start the pump up to get the sir out of the lines you want to tryed the system full with 3m liquid got poor performance but if you fill up just the lines and leave the radiator 1/2 full wow its night and day difference this is with no pump circulating the liquid .

@ghoffmann821

3 жыл бұрын

Except the early Ford engineers understood that return path must be lower than supply to the condenser....

@jesusisalive3227

3 жыл бұрын

Its a very cool concept, the pressure or lack there of inside the tubes makes a huge difference.

0:44 -zed 1:57 -zee The Canadian language is a complicated one.

@jakenkid

5 жыл бұрын

Any language that uses 'zed' is wrong. Letters don't have a spelling, there are no extra sounds in a letter, and they don't require other letters to be pronounced or spelled. So 'zed', simply put, is grammatically, and historically incorrect. Just sayin'.

@oneleggedrussianpeasantboy8243

5 жыл бұрын

@@jakenkid How do you spell "zee" then? Let alone "double-you" (w)? 😄

@jakenkid

5 жыл бұрын

@@oneleggedrussianpeasantboy8243 w isn't actually a proper letter. As it is literally the combination of two letters... Dern, foiled again...

@oneleggedrussianpeasantboy8243

5 жыл бұрын

@@jakenkid How would you define a proper letter?

@jakenkid

5 жыл бұрын

@@oneleggedrussianpeasantboy8243 additionally, I don't understand the question of 'how do you spell 'zee' then?', as letters don't have a spelling (with the exception of trying to express the pronunciation of a letter phonetically), since they are the tools used for spelling... Asking that is like drinking your pee to stay alive, it doesn't work...

Next up: CPU Cooling with Holy Water

@arsh6082

5 жыл бұрын

the JESUS CHRIST rig

@LermaBean

5 жыл бұрын

@@arsh6082 Complete with priests who are a little extra touchy today

@richardstrange8439

5 жыл бұрын

​@@arsh6082 the Pope Supercrux 100 ghz ,500 extabyte RAM, 35" 256 monitor, 900 nonabyte Plasma HD.

@idklike3210

5 жыл бұрын

Speedwagon Foundation if holy water was to exist or does exist, then I don’t know what doesn’t allow it to happen.

@jonathanwessner3456

5 жыл бұрын

The normal stuff? Or the pope blessed stuff?

Think I just perforated my ear drum, held phone speaker to ear to hear bubbling and Linus screams "Get access...." 🙉

Love how Linus keeps the intro ad spot exactly 5 seconds so that we can double tap it out

Linus should do his interpretation of The vodka cooled PC

@zxmusefabrication6134

5 жыл бұрын

I can see... MOAR SILIKON!

@amenadiel4060

5 жыл бұрын

check Life Of Boris channel , he already did it

@ronylouis0

5 жыл бұрын

@@amenadiel4060 yes that's the point, Linus should do his version

@MiGujack3

5 жыл бұрын

Maple Syrup cooled PC

@arachnenet2244

5 жыл бұрын

Technically speaking, there's a big chance the liquid in this cooler was alcohol so who knows?

DeSinc jumpscare! Btw whats with the Half Life references?

@syvar1886

5 жыл бұрын

As soon as I saw it i paused the vid and looked on the comments for DeSinc himself lol

@jvyden4

5 жыл бұрын

WE ARE THE 1%

@FlameSoulis

5 жыл бұрын

Hey guys, DeSinc here, we're about to start this Tech Tips video.

@wavyreece2015

5 жыл бұрын

i stoped and waited to look at the comments when i saw the garrys mod half life death animation

@sourkarim9725

5 жыл бұрын

Half-life source to be exact

I've done that in 2003 inspired by heat-pipes, using freon. Worked well on my Athlon XP. It works mostly like heat-pipe + some convection action. My was made with one 22mm diameter copper pipe.

Literally looked down on my phone, video went silent - looked up to see this: 5:10

Are we going to ignore that intro or what...

@popotofyn

5 жыл бұрын

HUEGH, STAHP

@TheLilPorkChop

5 жыл бұрын

I dunno wut u mean

@nowonmetube

5 жыл бұрын

Dude I haven't eben watched the whole video yet

@CarbonPanther

5 жыл бұрын

@@popotofyn Have I been that much of a burden?

@Felix-ve9hs

5 жыл бұрын

Desinc here?

I don’t know why there are so many Half-Life memes this episode... But I love it.

@Monkeyman12534

5 жыл бұрын

What was the thing at the beginning. I've only ever seen it as DeSinc's profile pic

@namirPL

5 жыл бұрын

@@Monkeyman12534 He often comments on their videos so maybe they wanted to give back. Or whoever edited this might be a fan of him

@mr0o

5 жыл бұрын

@@Monkeyman12534 it's the "einstein scientist" npc

@ExReDeTM

5 жыл бұрын

@@Monkeyman12534 exactly what i was thinking

@necrobynerton7384

5 жыл бұрын

Maybe they became big fans of half life. ...maybe air conditioners... no...

Proper tweak would be to mount the radiator in a way where the thick hot tube is positioned on the top and the thin tube at the bottom, fluid convection works better if the hot fluid enters radiator from the top and and becomes heavy due to cooling by the radiator thus exiting the radiator from the bottom creating a naturally circulating fluid due to heating(by cpu) and cooling(by radiator)... good luck !

@kleetus92

2 жыл бұрын

I was going to say the same thing... the conventional radiator is the problem here... Only other way around it, sorta, would be put the radiator sideways.... so the hot was on top and the cold side was on the bottom, but no case is going to allow that configuration.

@ak3t0n

Жыл бұрын

@@kleetus92 What he said

The water's in a vacuum, hence the seals, where it boils at >27 degrees Celsius; it's a flexible heat-pipe and the water-movement is called thermosiphoning, and as the radiator also has a hot and cold end it too should be oriented accordingly (like in the photo), with the top becoming the hot end where the vapour condenses and falls, running the fans helps also :). Nice to see an old idea finally realised even if not given the best chance, there's a problem in getting the temperature down which I encountered in my own crude attempts, and it's hard to tell from this one if the makers have solved that.

5:10 Linus.exe has stopped working

@recker1130

4 жыл бұрын

Not responding is much better

@TheWoundedWarrior

4 жыл бұрын

Apparently the 'Ignore' command works pretty well with Linus. I'm just glad the 'Abort' option wasn't selected! Not to mention there is no 'Fail' with Linus

@j.s.radhakrishnan2006

4 жыл бұрын

Linus.exe more like HEV_SUIT.exe

@ygobe2

4 жыл бұрын

X Æ A-12 Prototype

I guess someone on the editing team has been on a DeSinc binge watching session?

@TSGZeroHundred

5 жыл бұрын

Seriously

@imo098765

5 жыл бұрын

Linus was going on holiday and this is what happens to LMG

Well, they could use ethanol and get the boiling temp down to 70ºC...

@TravisHammeng

5 жыл бұрын

And be nice and flammable

@hailzanzibar4881

5 жыл бұрын

sounds perfectly safe

@SianaGearz

5 жыл бұрын

Why stop at Ethanol? Acetone, for better fireballs! Pentane! Isoprene, for fireballs on mere contact with air! Chloroform, for obvious reasons! Diethyl Ether, for that genuine dentist experience! Don't you want your experimental coolers to also be fun when they go wrong? On a more serious note, it's pretty difficult to ignite ethanol in this use, it is actually remarkably safe. Like if you had an open flame inside your cooling loop, for sure you'd set it alight, but i'd say you have bigger issues if you do? And it's just a wee little fireball, blink and you'll miss it. And by the way, i'm sure someone will comment ohnoes acetone & plastic tubing, well don't use polycarbonate hardlines - polyethylene, polypropylene, polyamides, siloxane, plenty of polymers are completely immune to acetone, and usually to an extent to other solvents too. What it really is? Fluorinated ketone, must be.

@anagraphical_angel

5 жыл бұрын

@@SianaGearz ok

@olegtitov6679

5 жыл бұрын

@@SianaGearz Looking at stable boiling at about 66 C when in BIOS with no load the chemist in me immediately concluded that the liquid inside is methanol (boils at 64.5 C at atmospheric pressure)... It's cheaper than any of the fluorinated stuff and has much better heat of vaporization.

As a chemical engineering student that was recently learning about heat transfer with steam, this is quite an entertaining video that applies some of what we learned.

3:49 Hey, Vsauce, Linus here.

@haxalicious

5 жыл бұрын

cc8egnsx Or am I?

@crispy8346

5 жыл бұрын

@@haxalicious (Vsauce music plays)

14:26 *turns up volume to hear bubbles*... GET ACCESS TO AMAZING GAMES!!! EDIT: THANKS FOR ALL THE LIKES GUYS

@bokajllensch661

5 жыл бұрын

r/ShittyDesigns

@mehpersonguy0

5 жыл бұрын

*i'm gLAD YOU ASKE*-- -wait, that was a Humble ad read from elsewhere... whoops-

@troy4340

5 жыл бұрын

I think we all got fooled with that one

@RichardGrim

5 жыл бұрын

Lol

@dannyliles2315

5 жыл бұрын

Master samwhale T benno is a celebrity

In Rural fire operations, we work with dump tanks, what's fun to show off is when you can use a hose, and move water from 1 tank to another, without a pump being used.

I think it is supposed to work like the bubble-pump in a coffee-maker. There are stem bubbles forming that float up pushing the liquid as it expands. That's why it should be mounted vertically with the large pipe up, liquid+steam takes more space than just liquid.

I want more Linus with Half-Life please.

@tituskriswanto5110

5 жыл бұрын

do you know DeSinc

@BonkedByAScout

5 жыл бұрын

Bedeep de beeep beeeeep

@tituskriswanto5110

5 жыл бұрын

@@strawberrysoup1 search it on youtube

@zacharyzubiate6619

4 жыл бұрын

Desinc is my dad

@NonsensicalSpudz

4 жыл бұрын

@@tituskriswanto5110 and thats the game basically over

Boiling liquid cooling requires the condenser/radiator to be mounted with the liquid outlet lower than the gas inlet so that circulation can occur without bubbles of gas fighting the returning liquid. Turn the radiator slightly on its side so that one outlet is at the bottom and turn the cpu so that the gas can exit at the top. Top to top, bottom to bottom. Duh!

@djritter11223

4 жыл бұрын

Would love to see this retested as you said. I was thinking the exact same thing.

@nwimpney

4 жыл бұрын

Really, what this needs is a crossflow radiator so the vapour line enters at the top, and as it condenses, it runs down to the bottom of the rad, and returns to the block as liquid. I've experimented with a similar unwicked heatpipe in the past, but mine just used a large hose, instead of a proper circuit with a return. It worked well to a point, but because there was no force to the flow putting liquid back onto the block, it would eventually cross a threshold where there was a continuous bubble, and the cooling mostly stopped.

@TheOrganicartist

4 жыл бұрын

@komulista as a scientist i felt bad for the engineer who made this. Linus could at least have had enough respect to read a little bit, the lack of that small effort just makes me sad.

@manw3bttcks

4 жыл бұрын

I'm suspicious about the radiator, you'd think this thing would need as special radiator, this radiator looks like a plain old forced liquid radiator.

@Samqdf

4 жыл бұрын

@@djritter11223 Retested with the fans actually on would of helped a whole lot too

wow this was actually cool the application of this technology would be endless thanks for the content

Linus: But will it work? *Random stroke attacks*

precariously holding a radiator at odd angles whilst the motherboard is balanced dangerously on the end of the table.,.. mmk

5:12 Someone make a 10 hour loop of this please.

@mytube001

5 жыл бұрын

Memeify the hell out of it! :D

@craterfacelancaster

5 жыл бұрын

I think I'll need Linus's permission for that...

@iMidnight_

5 жыл бұрын

Thinking Tinker I’m ur first sub c

@hijomojo

5 жыл бұрын

10hr videos take days to upload, so here's a high-res gif instead: imgur.com/Ba44zZo or direct link: i.imgur.com/Ba44zZo.gifv

@Tio-Nino

5 жыл бұрын

You do it. Don't be lazy.

Your segway to the sponsor adds are legendary! never change it :)

Would probably improve flow and cooling with a custom rad that will allow gas in the top and liquid out the bottom in a vertical configuration

really wish he'd rotate the rad so the liquid return tank would be on the bottom. I feel like that would help the circulation of the liquid.

@pederb82

5 жыл бұрын

RaphYkun Finally someone who understand what convection is and how it works. :) you are very much correct. Linus failed because of him holding the radiator in the wrong orientation. Heat rises, cold sinks. :) water always tries to be closest possible to +4 degrees Celsius on the bottom. :) hence the water will flow.

@razeel2000

5 жыл бұрын

That was exactly what I was thinking. Caught myself tilting my head whenever the wrong side of the raditor was up. :D I am curious how practicable this concept will be in the future. Hope it will be, because I like silent PCs.

@Beregorn88

5 жыл бұрын

You, and everyone else with basic understanding on how gravity work...

@Herezjush

5 жыл бұрын

he is usually doing shit tono of DIY stuff, why he didnt use plywood frame to hold radiator nad mother board right way? or use anthony to hold it for him, for hours of testing and benchmarks...

@Khrenan

5 жыл бұрын

I think he is just not used to gravity. He drops things all the time too

I did some research on non-powered cooling, and while I can't remember half of it, I do remember that you needed a long "cooling space". Some houses in warmer climes tend to keep a long line of hose snaking below their house, connected to their fans/heat gatherer. The idea is that the long distance of the cooling space ensures that one tube is "hot" and the other slightly less so, if you have two tubes both the same length, there isn't enough difference between the two and you just have two hot tubes and not enough circulation.

@peterkiss1204

5 жыл бұрын

Actually if you just put the lower end of the returning tube under the heatsource, it won't lead vapor out as bubbles travel upwards in the liquid. While the vapor tube should have a small protruding edge into the radiator that elevates the end of the tube above the sinking port (upper end of the returning tube), therefore prevents liquid flowing back. The main problem with this cooler is the pressure probably isn't lowered enough in the system to get the water boil at a significantly lower level than at atmospheric circumstances. And that type of radiator was designed with pressurized water in mind. Those flat liquid channels don't really clean up due to the capillary effect keeps some liquid in them further reducing that small contact surface the vapor could condensate on. I tried this exact method before, but with better tubing and ethanol coolant (has much lower boiling point, doesn't corrode metals and prevents any life form from growing in the loop), but wasn't really impressed with the results. Although I didn't give up the project completely as I'm working on a different radiator design.

Linus - 14:23 bubbling actually makes noise, you can probably hear it. Me : turns the volume up to Max Linus (intentionally screams) - *GET* *ACCESS* .:":":".:":'::'';.....

@affectedrl5327

4 жыл бұрын

stolen comment

The bubbles in the tubes are giving me flashbacks to the scenes with bane in Batman and Robin

Lol gotta love the half-life sound effects

the person who edited this clearly watches DeSinc

@LinusTechTips

5 жыл бұрын

I'd say he owes me a couple references now.

BTW, another awesome effect with these type of heatpipe designs is that boiling occurs from the differential, not from the absolute temperature. If you put ice on the radiator, it will cause the fluid to boil faster, which will condense on the cold rad, and flow back down as very chilled liquid.

I love the occasional HL references throughout so many Linus videos

gods, just hold the radiator sideways so the hot gasses go in the top and the cooled liquid pours out the bottom and you'd be there but he kept holding it flat destroying the damn flow. .... at least he didn't drop it. :/

@vitorkiguchi4670

5 жыл бұрын

@LeftBrainChoice That's not air. And he can't open the circuit, it came sealed. Even if he could, that doesn't matter because the circulation mechanism of the coolant depends on the bubbling of it.

@chaikachan5820

5 жыл бұрын

Exactly. Holding the radiator flat had it trying to work both ways in both tubes, and not giving the liquid the full loop of the radiator to cool down. On it's side with the hot 'air' side going in the top of the radiator with the cold 'water' side down should improve it a bit more.

@Macestrom

5 жыл бұрын

@LeftBrainChoice it's a passive phase change cooler using water.

@robertvanderbush737

5 жыл бұрын

I was just gonna say the same thing, I've seen stationary engines cooled using this method and it works great when properly setup

@JayMaverick

5 жыл бұрын

Ah thanks for pointing that out! Was wondering about that. Another question - should this thing be 100% filled with water to work optimally? I mean, at some point the water inside will evaporate, right?

I am so thankful to Linus making me feel better about my assembling skills 😉❤️

Built a rig 11+ years ago with a lian-li case and Vapochill LS Lightspeed phase change unit - a lot of dremeling and filing involved (I wanted watercooling for my gpu too). It was a noisy bit of kit and took a minute just to fire up the cooler and get the cpu down to sub-zero. I could be wrong, but the process/science of cooling I am guessing isn't far of here with an evaporator head boiling off liquid and drawing heat away.

I could think of this working as a hybrid system, the block is also a massive laterally spread out heatsink with heatpipes and then also the tubes come out into a bigger rad, it would be massive and bulky but I would wager that would work pretty well

Lol i thought you were taking a break. But seriously I really admire your persistence. I can never ever upload at your speed. Keep it up.

@mattearenzi8972

5 жыл бұрын

lol

@psychobotLoL

5 жыл бұрын

he did, YT is 2 weeks behind

@manospapad2087

5 жыл бұрын

Do people still don't understand that youtubers pre record videos?

@danman9847

5 жыл бұрын

hes done this every video hes just a moron lol

1:13... Me and my dad used to work on a very old car (1908 FN)... so old it didn't have a waterpump but it had a giant radiator: when water heats up it gets lighter and moves up, it goes in the radiator and by means of passing air by either the car moving around or the fan, the water gets cooled condenses and moves back into the engine and the cycle starts over... this is is called "thermosifoncooling"

@richardprice5978

5 жыл бұрын

some early ford motor car company / usa made models are that way or just a rad fan and no belt driven pump

@richardprice5978

5 жыл бұрын

ps. its a crapy idea for a ice engine as it doesn't let you make big horsepower ( without damaging it ) but it does have quicker warm up times to normal operating temperatures

@KayoMichiels

5 жыл бұрын

@@richardprice5978 Yeah... back then, the engines looked more like modified steam cylinders.... cars where nothing more than just 2 steel beams and some wooden cladding...

my brain is just screaming for you to hold the radiator vertical so the vapor can travel the full length

Should the radiator not be on its side? With the "hot" intake pipe on top and ""cold" output on the bottom.

@dr1verman

4 жыл бұрын

I was in stitches when he kept his radiator flat.

@1drumshark

3 жыл бұрын

YES

@Lindaine

3 жыл бұрын

I don't get it, should the fan face forward?

@MrNlce30

3 жыл бұрын

@@Lindaine It's more to do with water flow rather that the direction of the fan.

Actually the der8auer's prototype has a tiny reservoir and seems to be a bit better. We will see :)

@brentgreeff1115

5 жыл бұрын

that is a spectacular system build

@rokadamlje5365

5 жыл бұрын

That uses some Notec fluid with boiling point around 30 i think.

@acquacow

5 жыл бұрын

@@rokadamlje5365 novec

@youMarv21

5 жыл бұрын

@@acquacow www.pcper.com/news/General-Tech/Computex-2018-CaseKing-and-Der8auer-Debut-Phase-Shift-Cooler-AIO-Prototype

Should've turned the radiator sideways with the hot tube above the cold tube. The photo y'all showed seemed to have it that way too.

@wingracer1614

5 жыл бұрын

Wouldn't really matter. This is phase change, not really convection. If you just had to have a continuous flow, a one way valve would take care of that.

@stephenfoster2532

5 жыл бұрын

It actually does matter. For passive systems, having the radiator in a downflow configuration works better since that is the natural flow path for the fluid that is being cooled. Further both conduction and convection are involved. Conduction is the primary mechanism getting the energy from the processor into the fluid and convection is the primary mechanism cooling it back off in the radiator. In the radiator, the tubes near the entry of the hot fluid may be multiphase, but if the radiator is effective, the tubes near the outlet should be solid liquid. Interestingly, you could easily do this with water if you fill the system, then lower the pressure in the system with a vacuum pump. Lower pressure drops the boiling temp of water. With the right combination of temp and pressure, you can actually make water exist in all three states simultaneously. It's the critical point of water. A one way valve would most likely prevent the system from operating. Yes, with the passive systems you have flow, but the only head pressure developed will be the velocity pressure generated from the momentum of the fluid itself. A one way valve, regardless of the type, will induce a pressure drop to great for the passive systems to overcome and thus flow will stop. Changes in pressure are what generate flow.

@PsychoticusRex

5 жыл бұрын

Thank you. I thought i was the only one who saw that.

they should use iso-pentane as solvend, it boils at 28°C degrees so the cpu block technically won't go much over 28 degrees, altough you will need some beefy fans to cool them enough to prevent overpressure of the system altogether which is very dangerous. Cooling will be great as long as you can cool the solvent to get liquid again.

i have one pump less gaming rig set up with r-141b coolant in it. the way i achieve it is the system it self has an internal vacuum pressure, check valves so that the flow is in one direction, expansion valves and all copper pipe connection. the principle is temperature/pressure differential.

levels are crucial in this system. The bubble outlet must be located above the liquid return in the waterblock on the cpu and the bubble tube must reach the radiator above the connection of the returning tube to the cpu. Otherwise the gravity can't help to the circular flow of the fluid in the circuit. Water must not be the fluid and the filling microtube should be because it uses a fluid within a subatmosferic pressure that allow boiling just above room temperature but well bellow the Tjunction of the CPU. That allows evaporation in the upper side of cpu block, vapor entering the upper side of the radiator, condensation along the radiator, liquid flow by gravity to the lower connection on the radiator and descending also by gravity to the lower port of the cpu block. Fluid must be less viscous than water to improve flow and bubble trapping. that means the radiator must have a different design, so condensation can accumulate in the exit port of the radiator. I know it because that idea came to my mind 2 years ago but i dont have any engineering education so i just dismissed it

@3zdayz

5 жыл бұрын

I'll just add a quick comment on that; all of the orientations except the best one were used. The skinny pipe should be at the bottom of the resivoir, and the fat at the top, not at the same level; that will let the vapor-side be vapor in the top, and liquid side mostly liquid... in the end the pressure is 99% the same throughout the system so I'm not sure how you'd ever 100% get it to 'flow'. Put the radiator on its side, with the pipes one above another; a direction that it would like never be mounted in a case.

@Nsixtyfourlink

5 жыл бұрын

@@3zdayz That is exactly what I was thinking would be the best orientation. So this cooler could be a bit better but it would have to be in a custom case or perhaps a wall mount, like, situation.

@RyanCianfarani

5 жыл бұрын

To quote Meek Mill: “There’s levels to this shit”

@dalehorton7748

5 жыл бұрын

great looking response, until you spelled subatmospheric with an f :P

@jdubayou9498

5 жыл бұрын

Should’ve had the radiator sideways like in the picture@ 12:55

Linus builds multiple computers a week why does he always make every build seem like its his first build with him fumbling around w everything

@carlososorno

5 жыл бұрын

For the memes...

@Srb003ds

5 жыл бұрын

@Anon 1 lmao why do you sound so mad

@orkell8195

5 жыл бұрын

he actually does not build multiple pc's a week, he puts together some test benches. He rarely builds for youtube.

@carlososorno

5 жыл бұрын

@@Srb003ds the dude is mad MonkaS

Venturing more into the more boiler side of HVAC has me thinking of ways to do this essentially. You could even use one pipe if the orientation was right you can have hot and cold water flowing opposite directions in the same pipe.

Maybe some kinda hybrid unit can be developed to help with idle temps.

> point of video is to remove all moving cooling parts, including fans > adds inefficient passive heatsink but puts 2 fans on it anyway

@jacquesb5248

5 жыл бұрын

there is case that is mostly heatsink

Task Manager in Win10 has always reported wrong CPU speed for me. Compared to CPUZ and HWiNFO64

The radiator needs redesigning with the larger hot input to the radiator higher than the smaller output to thermal properly. Old houses used to have a back boiler above the open fire and this used the same principal to circulate the heat to radiators without a pump

LMFAO when you did that pause before the first sponsor i felt so awkward it made me laugh wtf.

It’s so helpful how Linus always makes his sponsorspots 10 seconds, so you can click the quickskip without losing any of the video

Cooling by boiling is not particularly new, that's exactly how fridges work.

@Youjellyman1

5 жыл бұрын

How fridges, most home AC's, power plants, car AC's, heat pipes, etc. work

@virtual-adam

5 жыл бұрын

Einstein refrigerator.

Large tube on top to carry the vapor, smaller tube on bottom to carry the liquid return. Gases have a higher specific volume than liquids. Also need the vapor return line to be on the top side of the radiator so that the liquid return can be more easily gravity fed. This is a common type of set up for steam condensing systems or other industrial applications. Especially for refrigerant cooling applications on large scales where the efficiency vs capital cost makes sense.

use one cooper tube for hot outside and isolated larger for back with vertical radiator to use all surface for exchange ;)

I LOVE the half life editing!

@themotorfreak1

5 жыл бұрын

DESINC?!?!!?!?

I wonder how a one direction flow valves would do in this to force the liquid up one tube and down another so a more effective cold-hot side would be in effect.

Linus you need a custom built radiator. The mounting of the condensate must be such that the inlet of water and vapour needs is on top, with sufficient vertical height from the cpu block, and the liquid on the bottom, this effectively allows a continuous and stable water circulation thanks to the static head of liquid over the radiator. Industrial Steam boilers are often made on this principle, without the need of any pump.

I would have the hot come out the high side of the radiator, and change the radiator alignment for a sideways mount, with the hot-in located above the cold-out. This way the gas pressure forces the liquid out the low side of the radiator back into the low side of the waterblock. A one-way thermostat valve like you find in a car engine would also help immensely.

"Instead of having the two forces work AGAAAANST eachother..."

11:11 Linus be sounding like Sir David Attenborough lmao

I understood it properly and going to make one for my self.... itis total game of specific boiling point ... done that before once but for another thing but this time for cpu

The old 2 cylinder John deer tractors used this principle for cooling. They had no water pump however I believe it’s more efficient to have a water pump

Any super critical liquid in that should work and one large pipe would work better. It's soldered due to the vapor pressure of the super critical fluid. I really hope they are using something other than butane or propane since those have vapor pressures near 100 psi

I love how he goes straight to prime95

i cant even begin to to tell you how much i love this channel

Jeeeeeesus thanks god you turned that bench vertically. I was screaming that since the video started.

Guessing that's 3M Novec. I've done the same thing with methanol before. Only worked at higher temp due to the boiling point.

@wobblysauce

5 жыл бұрын

Novek does get around these days.

@nickopedia5669

5 жыл бұрын

I would think acetone with its 56C boiling point would do quite well at a 50% fill (as it boils, the pressure will increase and I'd guess it'll stabilize at about a 70C boiling point when at full tilt). Just have to ensure the plastic tubes are compatible and wont get eaten, and that everything is positioned properly (unlike Linus in this video lmao. He almost hit it at the very end when he got the radiator tilt correct, but he still missed the positioning in relation to the CPU)

@RexinOridle

5 жыл бұрын

@@nickopedia5669 Acetone tends to destroy pretty-much everything other than metals, especially at higher temps.

@nickopedia5669

5 жыл бұрын

@@RexinOridle according to plastics international, ECTFE, Flourosin, PTFE, PPS, Polypropelyne, HDPE, and nylon 6/6 all get and A grade for chemical resistance to acetone. We can pretty much ignore all the flouromers due to how absurdly expensive they are, but HDPE looks the most promising, as does PP, PPS, and Nylon 6/6 (although due to a lesser extent because of their higher absorption rates meaning the acetone may need to be added every 2-3 years instead of maybe 5-6 years) Another nice thing is that HDPE tubing is a very readily available item from the hardware store, and although not super flexible (unless you can find bellows-style hoses like in the video), it is easy to form with a heatgun to do a "hardline" style setup.

@nickopedia5669

5 жыл бұрын

And crap now that I've done all this research I'm seriously tempted to do this to the old 160 watt LGA775 workstation. The only issues I can think of is that my radiator (an old heater core off a car) has unknown plastic end tanks, and making a new non-acrylic top plate for the water block. (that part is easy enough on the CNC machine, but my surface finishes have to be really good to seal to the copper base plate with the weak clamping force that the 4 small bolts can provide).

1:21 By sitting through this sponsor spot. • • • • Skips 20 seconds forward as always.

@nowonmetube

5 жыл бұрын

Actually I didn't this time, because I was curious which VPN provider it would be

@jeder6915

5 жыл бұрын

by skipping 20 seconds, you probably missed probably the best intro there was to date

@FalloutNewNarwhal

5 жыл бұрын

@@nowonmetube Not NordVPN for once.

@Lambda_Ovine

5 жыл бұрын

I watch them twice.

It's called thermo-siphoning. Early automotive water cooling works the same way. Liquid used in the thermal solution had very low boiling temperature. The boiled liquid turned into gas and carry heat away from heat source. Once the gas cooled, it return to liquid state and continue the cycle all over again.

you have to have the rad mounted on it's side with the in/out above one another, if they're at the same level the thermo-pump movement via cooling suppression has to have a hot top and cool bottom out, it's only recommended for cards that natually run at about 20 degrees from ambient temp. like of you put a heat sink along the out side the radiator will be doing the majority of the thermal movement for the water, that's a nifty system! will not work if the in/out are level with one another from the rad.

ask der8auer. This may be 3M novec.

@victorunbea8451

5 жыл бұрын

doesn't look like it. 3M has about 55degC boiling point but the CPU stays between 68 and 100+ degC, plus those Novec grade A-holes made it incredibly hard to get the juice in anything less than bulk (or maybe that's just in Europe) It looks more like an alcohol. Could also be water at a reduced pressure as well but those hoses look too flimsy for negative pressure fluids. Trust me, I've had the idea ever since I saw Novec submerged server racks and I've researched the possibility

@sasjadevries

5 жыл бұрын

@@victorunbea8451 Well, there are different types of novec, usually the label says NOVEC-XXXX with 4 numbers at the end. Different novecs have different boiling points, and it could even be a mixture. Apart from this NOVEC is just a brand name, 3M is not the only company to sell this molecule. And since it's convined as soon as it starts boiling the pressure increases, and it takes the boiling point with it. But still my intuition tells me it's something way cheaper than novec that's inside that loop. Obviously Linus didn't do any tests to let us guess what's in there, like squeezing the line so that we can see how flimsy it actually is. If it was a line that you can't squeeze down at all no matter what temperature it's at, then it would be capable of holding a vacuum for example.

Linus trying to sound smart while also not knowing what the fuck is going on really makes me happy.

Seems like a dye that changes color with temp would be handy or at least entertaining with the clear tubing

This is amongst one of the most interesting videos that I have seen. This, in my opinion, is what separates LTT from Jayz and Bitwit. LTT experiments with far more new equipment and is not just building a new pc everyday.

I mean technically its been done. Liquid Nitrogen, which ive seen people attempt cooling solutions, is a boiling liquid. Just happens to boil at -320.4°F or -195.8°C LOL

@greebj

5 жыл бұрын

Derba8er has a few videos using some kind of 3M Novec fluid with a boiling point of 61C. There's even one where he dunks an entire laptop in a bucket of it - while powered on - (but because there's nowhere for the gas to go, results sucked)

@kopai555

5 жыл бұрын

you need radiator to be completed vacumed and 100% no air while you got cooling liquid that got so low boiling point to be working at best efficiency i think (likes copper heat pipe) @bennyg

@kian8382

5 жыл бұрын

@@kopai555 that could make a big difference really, by decreasing pressure the boiling point will become lower, helps when idling; and while boiling it will help maintain a much healthier pressure inside since no one would like that mysterious liquid blown out.

@kopai555

5 жыл бұрын

@@kian8382 Yup exactly and if you got big fin/heatsink to remove heat out those vapor will condense to liquid faster

@bigchungus7050

5 жыл бұрын

@@kian8382 doesn't increasing pressure lower the boiling point?

You have both pipes at the same level. The intake side should sit lower than the hot side. Since heat rises yada yada yada, once cooled by the radiator it should go through the cold side and come up from the bottom.

Speaking of pump - if submarine nuclear reactors can be cooled by natural water circulation (to some level of output).

Used to hang out with OCZ Tony during Cebits. Was a great guy. Missing the old OCZ and their staff...

Am I the only one that rewatched that intro like 3 times because it made me laugh😂

@marlonpinto2824

5 жыл бұрын

10 times and counting

@sebaprime6411

5 жыл бұрын

Its a reference to Half Life

Exciting times we are living in. I would love to see a TRULY silent computer. Now, that's right around the corner.

@redrock9319

5 жыл бұрын

Mobile?

@jr_kulik

5 жыл бұрын

I remember seeing a showcase on this channel of a computer case that’s basically just a giant heatsink, it weighed 50 pounds but it cooled any CPU completely fanless.

@itIsI988

5 жыл бұрын

Except for the coil whine and electrical noise...

@devinchaboyer

5 жыл бұрын

my potato laptop is a TRULY Silent Computer, it has no fans and has eMMC storage, so completely silent, it's a Acer Spin 1

@itIsI988

5 жыл бұрын

@@devinchaboyer Same with my Surface Pro until you unmute it

Holy Moly. Haven't thought of Xtreme systems in forever. I remember OCZ Tony and Mushkin Greg. Back in the old days. God we are all getting old! I can't remember if Greg was on xtreme, but I remember he was very active on the NCIX forums.

This was pretty neat!