The three rules that I got from this video - 1. sell all cows at 27 months (after birth of calf) 2. Feed Beef cattle Hay for most profit 3. Feed Diary cattle TMR for most profit Thanks, FC, for a well-presented video.

@That_Gaming_Kid

3 ай бұрын

I was hoping someone would sum up the vid

@ozanerdemdemirel3026

2 ай бұрын

❤

@nunosantos00

Ай бұрын

I have a mod pasture with auto water and i bought 1 milk cow and one meat cow both small. When full can have 25. I feed hay bales. I will wait until they grow and reproduce and keep feeding hay. When the cows start to produce milk i can sell the milk and i can sell the meat ones too and thanks to this video i know the right time. I will only use hay because it's easy and free to get,no need to bother with TMR since i need hay,sillage and mineral and a mixer...more expenses and milk cows will produce more as they get old. If milk is not good i work with meat cows and sell the others. I have sheep and horses too.

Duuuuuude, are you sure you're a cop and not an accountant? Thanks for the information... Always learning. Stay safe buddy and stop resisting!

@FarmerCop

8 ай бұрын

Id probably be making more money if that were true haha. Thanks brother! And will do! :)

@FastDuDeJiunn

7 ай бұрын

i did this kind of stuff as a kid. it not complicated just time consuming. i def appreciate the people who do this for me now for youtube. i not a fan of the internet....... but it does make gaming easier when it comes to stuff like this. i used to play original gran turismo. i had a notebook full of laptimes, setups and each car i ran on tracks. i spent im sure 100s of hours just running practice laps each track and playing with setups..... 20 some years later i still got the notebook just for laughs. that said my uncle has ps4 gran turismo game. he wanted better setup. i did quick search online within 5-10 mins we had car running a lot smoother. obviously each person has dif style etc so dif setups pref in the final but we had good baseline to work with at least.

@diesel4ever273

7 ай бұрын

​@@FarmerCopAre you a real life police?

@bragenjones130

6 ай бұрын

@@diesel4ever273yes he is

@bragenjones130

6 ай бұрын

Love you content too

Cows are immensely profitable in the right combinations. Two decently sized fields. One for grass, which you can mow 3x a year when seasons are turned on to produce hay and silage and one for a straw yielding grain (preferably barley because of the high yield per acre). Fed the cows tmr and either sell the milk or buy a dairy production to turn it into cheese and/or butter. Get a chicken barn with just enough chickens so the yield of barley feeds them for a year and sell the eggs and buy or build a BGA for the manure and slurry. They fit together so well.

I did this testing way back when, nice to see it's all the same - one way to game things, is to have a general production hay barn, and a ready for sale TMR barn - move the cows you plan to sell to the TMR barn the day before you sell them (the increase is immediate) and gain the value as if you'd fed them TMR for life. Incidentally you could run a grass barn and put the kiddies in there, until they get to milk production stage (or breeding stage!!).

This is super helpful!!! I absolutely love numbers and seeing it broken down like this is truly beautiful for me. Thank you so much. I just started playing about 2 weeks ago and your videos have made my life so much easier. Keep up the great work!

@marcdewinter2154

8 ай бұрын

Your life ? Really ? :D :D :D haha

Appreciate all the work to figure this out. I enjoy making the TMR on dairy farms mostly for rp purposes. Also I don’t know if this was a real Farmer Cop video, none of those tractors crashed 😊 keep up the good work and stay safe with the job sir.

Nov. 3, 2023 Thank you for taking the time to make this video and perform all these tests. Greatly appreciated. Take care sir and Stay safe.

I really appreciate the time and effort you put into these videos as since i got FS22 ive been playing with seasons on and on hard mode/start from scratch only and recently got my cows finally. So far ive only played on silverrun forest (first map i played on) and elmscreek. I have about 5 times the hours on elmscreek than i do on silverrun because i been wanting to get into the animals portion and dont have the desire to try to create fields and place building for animals on silverrun.

I found your channel a few years ago from your tests! You’re always so thorough! Thank you! So interesting and entertaining

Good to know. I've been thinking about adding cows to my farm and was getting ready to have all the necessary stuff to mix up TMR to give to them, but now I can just skip that step and just give them hay!

@taylormay420rodgers

8 ай бұрын

Unless your wanting the most milk out of the dairy cows, then feed them TMR.

@AaronTyska

8 ай бұрын

@@taylormay420rodgers true.

@DaleBouwman

8 ай бұрын

Same, thinking of starting Cows as well and always stop at Farmer Cops channel to know what to expect.

@john-t_smith7781

8 ай бұрын

Taking the fun out of the game

@AaronTyska

8 ай бұрын

@john-t_smith7781 Your idea of fun and my idea of fun are not the same. Just because I'm going to do things differently than you doesn't make me wrong or that I am having less fun. It's like a child complaining to their parents that their sibling is playing with a toy incorrectly when that sibling is having just as much with the toy as they did, just in a different way. It is a silly notion.

Wow!!! That’s a ton of info. Thanks for taking the time to share.

Thanks for putting that out. Really helpful comparison and not a result I was expecting to see

Cool! Thanks for doing this testing. I have always been curious about the numbers with the cows.

Sweet. TY for all the hard work you have done. It is very appreciated.

I always appreciate your test videos like this. Thanks for sharing these tips 🙌

Thanks so much. Ive been debating if i wanted to do Hay or TMR (Silage/Hay combo) for cattle. This helped a lot

I’m just about to expand into cows for the first time ever. So much appreciate your timely info!!

@taylormay420rodgers

8 ай бұрын

I'd be lost without farmer cop ... I had to use his video to make TMR until I got it memorized 😅

@FarmerCop first off, much respect for the time and effort on a video and calculations like this. i've dabbled with similar things before and would like to discuss things i noticed that i disagreed with. I'd be more than happy to discuss numbers for cows or any other animal in depth as well if desired. your tmr formula calculation has a minor error in it, largely affecting your profit results, your calculation shows silage*percent + hay*percent + straw+percent, resulting in 229 per 1000L, correcting the straw portion to Straw*percent should equal 173 per 1000L which means you're about $350 high on total feed for dairy cows, and $400 high on beef cows. in my experience as well, you can min/max your tmr mix to 50% hay, 20% silage, and 30% straw (tested on console, all mods off) which would be about $134 per 1000L resulting in almost $600 cheaper feed on dairy cows, and $800 cheaper on beef cows @1:20 you mention cows not needing straw. in info i've found from other people, and tested myself, not giving dairy cows straw, results in a multiplier of .9 on milk productions, so for hay fed 108 w/o straw vs 120 w/straw. or tmr fed 135 w/o straw vs 150 w/ straw. also, from what i've seen cows produce the same amount of slurry w/ vs w/o straw, but obviously only produce manure w/ straw. At adulthood a dairy cow consumed 95L of straw in return for 15L of milk and 200L of manure per month also, your discord link in your profile shows as an invalid invite, if yours is still up and running, i'd love being able to be part of a community where things like this can be discussed in depth

Cheers heaps just started cow farming this saves alot of hassle 👍

Great guide and definitely surprising how good the Hay does!

Great as usual! Thanks a lot for your work!

Other than that, excellent work on compiling this data. Helps me out quite a bit on my save games.

Great video and very helpful again. Thank you.

As someone who does this as a job, I enjoyed this very much, cause usually people assume more means better. Myself included (yes I also get caught in said net).

I keep both milk and beef cows until 37 months. This allows them to reproduce twice. Also the beef cows take until 36 months to top out at 3500 dollars I think.

@FarmerCop

8 ай бұрын

That also sounds like a great time to sell them as well :)

@CannedGoodzComedy

4 ай бұрын

How many calves can a cow have?

Great info! Always enjoy your videos.

Great video. I was looking for this exact information on beef cows specifically

Thanks this is super interesting and helpful! Love the spreadsheet too 😀👍

Thank u very much

Awesome video and information. Thank you.

So, What are you saying then 😂😂😂😂😂 this has just come at the right time as just about to start over again and was going to do a dairy farm this time so this is great thanks 👊

Awesome job!! That is the reason I almost always feed my cows hay only. I have an idea for a follow-up or part 2 on cows. I know on base game, the best time to sell to get the max profit (before the prices starts dropping) and get the max calves is 36 months, but I have yet to learn what it is with the enhanced animal mod. So, it would be a really interesting video that I don't think anyone has done yet, is using the enhanced animal mod and accounting for the best time to sell them but account for when calves are born and what is the most profitable way to feed them.

@Lonewolf23-26

8 ай бұрын

I’m curious about the enhanced animal mod and it’s affect on this as well!

@vninga

8 ай бұрын

In enhanced animal TMR most likely beats hay cows by quite a bit. With enhanced animal mod(EHM) you don't want to sell your dairy cows for profit but rather when their milk production decreases. In EHM cows eat a lot more feed, but produce a ton more product (milk in this case). In EHM I was making about 2-3k in milk per cow per day using TMR on normal. Farmers spreadsheet is based around selling at 27 months because that's the most profitable for base cow price, but that really only applies to beef cattle since I don't care about the dairy cow price rather than my daily milk production. I tend to sell closer to 4-5 years, because the first 16 months of a cows life cost me 30-40k in milk profit alone. You better off selling all calf's and buying adult cows from th store when you need to swap old cows out.

Great test FC👍 alot of hours behind these numbers, which were surprising👍

For milk cows if you provide straw for bedding, you will get more milk. Feeding hay instead of 108 you will get 120 and for feeding TRM instead of 135 you will get 150.

I started your recommendations about 10 days ago. Hay for cows, TMR for dairy, which I was doing already. After about 3 to 4 days, playing, I noticed all my cows in #1 to #8 pens (Texas) all had 0% health. They were on Hay only. I had to go back to TMR. I had already started to divest myself of extra TMR ingredients, silage, and straw. I'm cutting TMR a little close on supply. Their eating almost 325k per day. It might be cheaper to feed hay, but I don't see how if they are at 0% health. This video is the only one I have had an issue. Other than that, good info.

@FarmerCop

Ай бұрын

You have to make sure that the percents for feed helpfulness shown in this video are the same as whatever map you play on, some maps this does not work

Thankyou Farmer cop,also look forward to the horse video as that is also an animal iv never tried

Farmer Cop… this was helpful. Thank you.

And here i thought hay was for horses... Thanks for this awesome guide

nice video, i always find it easier to make sillage so i usually go with 55% sillage 15% straw and 30% hay.

@johnbradley2879

8 ай бұрын

I like to run as much straw as possible and as little silage as possible, I think it's like 28-30% straw 25-28%silage and the rest hay

Bro your spread sheet is what the farms I help finance send us. I hope these videos are making you some decent money because that was some high quality data you gathered.

I will be interested to see sheep as I did that test myself. I wish we could distribute the products like factories without a mod though. I also did so fun calculations when it comes to time spent making a crop vs profit. I didn't account for turn around time because that can vary per equipment, but I might add a 2 second penalty per. I did it for a ha that is 100x100 to see what is the most profitable per ha for time spent. Sure potatoes are the highest per ha but you have a 6m planter vs Oats were you have a 12m direct drill that also fertilizes. A 3m harvester vs a 15m harvester. Anyways, thanks for the video.

@BracaPhoto

5 ай бұрын

Do you have any new findings ? I started yesterday

@NevFTW

5 ай бұрын

Do whatever makes the game fun for you honestly. Everything makes profit.@@BracaPhoto

interesting video, i tend to sell my animals around the 36 month time, for cows & pigs i find they seem to top out for price around that time, not sure on horses though.

Wow, didn't think that would work. Typically, i buy TMR from 82 studio's buy station and just sell silage i make.

Very good analysis, thank you very much for the research :-).

I don't know how to let you know this other than posting it here. Sorry in advance if you think this is the wrong venue. However on your spreadsheet I found an error (probably a fat finger error). On the profit sheet in cell J39 you are adding the straw figures instead of multiplying like you did for Silage and Hay. Which ends up changing things just a bit 🙂 for the TMR figures.

Using the expandable pasture mod, i use a single pasture that can hold 2000+ cattle, and a 200 animal barn. You dont have to feed the cattle until 1 month before you want to sell, being that they dont die but gain age. Pull what you want to sell a month early to the barn and with TMR they are 100 percent health and can sell at full price.

Great video. I would love it if Giants would include Hereford and Texas longhorn cattle

Just want to point out that this depends on the map/barns your playing/using. Some maps/barns, have different % for different feeds. UMRV Dry creek farm barn has silage available as feed on 80% (same as hay in this test) , but hay is on 70%. If you are feeding them hay on that map in those barns, that means that their health will stay at 0%, they will not reproduce and will milk less. (Results from my current UMRV hard setting playthrough).

@FarmerCop

3 ай бұрын

Very true. This imformation is for base game cows that match what the base game has

nice vid my friend

I appreciate the test, data is good. Any chance you could do the economics including the slurry and manure production being sold to a biogas plant? That money adds up and compared to solid or liquid fertilizer, it is way better to sell as much of the slurry/manure as possible. Reg fertilizer is way cheaper by comparison plus digestate is a free by product but you can sell that too(?) Anyways thanks for this test and look forward to more

@FarmerCop

8 ай бұрын

I thought about that, but i would if you plan to do that just add in what you make from slurry or manure to the results on here

So overall it is more profitable to do milk cows by a long way if you keep them past your suggested sell date since you get multiples for free since it doesn't cost you anything for the new cow they have. So after a few years and all the extra cows for free the profit must really start building up rapidly especially if you build other cow homes and fill them with the birthed ones.

@FarmerCop

8 ай бұрын

Yes you would make a lot if you held onto the milk cows even longer

There should be a daily fee for dairy cows. Beef cows require less attention per day and fewer supplements. Dairy farming is for mega farms these days. Mostly because of the costs and tiny profit margins. As far as FS22, I'll be switching to the cheaper hay with both beef and dairy. Thanks for taking the time to make this.

If youre bored, id love to see this test done with enhanced animal system and straw / manure.

I love this video, so when I'm doing milk cow it's better to feed them TMR. Than when I doing beef cows, sell them at 27 months and feed them hay. If I understand the video

Disclaimer: Maybe this went over my head. I'm new to the game and have not done any ranching yet. Trying to do some research before I invest in cattle on FS22. The small boost you get from having a calf on TMR is erased after the second month? What is the point of TMR with beef cattle? Second gen. calves have a small boost too. Does that get erased by the 3rd month, too? Or does it make sense to finish a cow on TMR at reproduction (27 mo.) to get that small bonus? How many calves can 1 cow have? Does the cow value go down after a certain amount of time? Like I said. Maybe I missed something.

Can you test this on alma with silage? I would like to see what difference silage vs hay vs tmr would be

Two questions: When there’s birth is it only one cow that’s being added or the same number of cows that you have? Of the profits tabel it seems that milk cows are more profitable ?

TMR is good to ramp up the growth and then you can sustain with hay. Or at least that's how I do it.

I just started Fs22 today I was wondering if there’s a way I can use a Front wheel loader straight off the bat. I’m trying to use it am I allowed to purchase and use it on the first level on careers or do I have to finish every level first? If you can please let me know, thank you!

Only 30 seconds in so I’m not sure if you’ve mentioned it; but the mod “animal food calculator” will tell you how much food per day and year your animals eat. It’s a handy mod to have honestly.

What is the most effective way for reproduction (regarding any animal)? Should I sell half the stock the day before reproduction, or is it better to sell all and just buy new?

How did you calculate what it costed to make the hay on the profit sheet?

Is it 16 months or year for the diary cattle to start producing milk ?

I'm fairly new to FS22. I went on the Erlengrat map, and they have 4,050 for hay and 7,200 for grass,and you can't put any more food in. My question is does it need to be 4,050 & 7,200 to get 100% effectiveness? The only other FS games I've played is 15 & 17 and this is MUCH different than 15 & 17.

Yeah, but I pad out my TMR with lots of straw, and I use silage for the biogas plant as well. I don't sell my cows currently, since I'm trying to expand the herd on the cheap through reproduction. They're dairy cows, producing milk for productions.

@CannedGoodzComedy

4 ай бұрын

Is there a limit to how many calves one cow can have in a lifetime?

@Skorpychan

4 ай бұрын

@@CannedGoodzComedy Nope. A cow is a cow.

@CannedGoodzComedy

4 ай бұрын

@@Skorpychan and yearly food consumption is like 1-2 bales of hay/head? Seems like a good deal to keep some forever.

I think once you add in the fact that they produce more slurry with TMR that makes up the extra costs to produce the TMR. But I am surprised how close hay is to TMR

@FarmerCop

8 ай бұрын

They also produce slurry with hay just slightly less

Really you could call this a game error. I’m sure the intention is that if you feed them better, you make more money off what they produce. Perhaps an accountant needs to go over this game so as to make it “add up”. 😅. I’ll be parking the TMR mixer. Which while fun to use at first, becomes a real chore after a while. I guess like real farming. Lol

Wow thats interesting. I wonder if Giants did this on purpose?

I’m just happy we can feed them just hay for 80%, I think it was fs19 where silage gave you 80%

I found an error in the spreadsheet, Profit Sheet J39. Last part of the formula should be +(K37*J37) not +(K37+J37)

i'm guessing that this isn't using the dairy to increase milk profits. cause last time i roughly ran the numbers on that the TMR increase in milk was worth it

I do like the concept, but they need to make it more realistic. You should be able to make tmr, or even just feed silage. They should also make a section for feeding grains as a supplement. There should be a daily hay requirement and then you supplement a ration per head of alfalfa, tmr, corn, ect. That would be awesome, because we feed hay and supplement with alfalfa or grain. I really hope they come out with calves in the next game, so you can go through realistic cycles.

@FarmerCop

7 ай бұрын

There are mods to make tge feeding more realistic but they will never make it super realistic for the base game because they dont want to over complicate it

Am I reading the chart right that TMR even on dairy cows reduces total profit compared to straight hay? 🤯

Farm supplies production. Grass feed is better than a tmr. Why the game doesn't reflect that is beyond me. This factory makes hay and silage from grass like real life. Then makes tmr from those. So lets use the 1k cow pen for example. 1k are your breeders you feed. You have pens 2-4 are hold overs for 36 months of free grazing you don't need to feed. Pen 5 is your feed lot to get health up for sale price. So for mowed grass you get a tmr quality price for your beef prices. Side note: why isn't there a tmr production that uses poplar?

actually start to reproduce milk at 12 months in my experience. I thought the game says 16 months but I see them make milk at 12. at least mine do.

I keep cows for milk only. So essentially I should be feeding them Hay only. I buy the TMR from the buy everything mod silo because I ain’t found a mod yet that can make TMR fast enough for a 300 cow barn. But Hay is cheaper and only a little less milk produced.

@utredsontrucking1246

8 ай бұрын

Farm supplies. The hay loft that makes tmr from grass

@jbones2121

8 ай бұрын

@@utredsontrucking1246 It can make 150,000 liters a day or thereabouts?

@FarmerCop

8 ай бұрын

Yea if you have slightly more cows and only feed hay youll save money and get the same amount of milk

@Nashinator14

8 ай бұрын

The "field products factory" by farmerjeb is rapid too, loads of ways to make silage, can make hay and make TMR from the two (+ more) at the same time, just be warned it is a bit loud when it runs

Hope your doing horses as well!!

@FarmerCop

7 ай бұрын

Thats the plan :)

Fantastic test! Does anyone know if enhanced animals affects these results?

@lorenyoder8696

7 ай бұрын

So, I did my own little test. With enhanced animals, tmr will increase mile production by aprox 25% for both beef and dairy breeds, which is the same difference as base game. (In enhanced, both types will produce milk, beef will have less milk, but more valuable bulls.)

So I just started the video, but judging by the 94.6 million dollars I would say the cows are treating you well!

So, if you want to sell COWS, feed them hay. If you want to sell MILK, feed them TMR.

Hey nice video , but if you don’t give them straw they produce 10% less milk from what i know

@FarmerCop

8 ай бұрын

Straw does not affect productivity it only makes it so they produce manure instead of slurry

@J3ttt

8 ай бұрын

@@FarmerCop i saw someone else’s video saying that that’s why, i may be wrong as well.

Wonder if you could switch to TMR for the last 2-3 months to get that extra bonus with out the long term investment?

@abominablesnowman646

8 ай бұрын

I believe you can you could also wait until the last month before you sell if you are doing beef cows milk cows you would still need to atleast feed them hay and its not like its hard to make hay

Please make a test with Enhanced Animal System.

This is awsome info but... you kissed the minarel feed adative to TMR

@FarmerCop

8 ай бұрын

Nope i tested that in a different video, mineral feed has no affect on anything, its just for if you want the added realism

Theoretically TMR is the cheapest, because you need up to 33% less grass which you will be able to sell as silage.

Do you have any mods on? i didnt do any testing but i was under the impression that dairy cows produced milk right away. Futher more i can tell you that dairy cows go down in sell price when they get older, i dont have the specific age but it's before the hit 60 months

@FarmerCop

8 ай бұрын

They will produce right away if you buy them at 12 months old. No mods were on

I mowed my grass and stored it in a Bunker. It is now saying chaff. Can my cows still eat it? If not, what should I do with all that chaff

@FarmerCop

8 ай бұрын

Compact the chaff, cover it (an option will appear once its compacted just open the help menu) and then it will ferment to silage, you can also watch my silage tutorial for more info

Why would you sell the milk cows at 27 months rather than several years so you don't have the lack of milk the first several months?

Curious on how the mineral feed might boost the profit??

@FarmerCop

8 ай бұрын

It doesnt at all, it just costs extra, ive tested that in a separate video

What am i missing here? I've got 60 cows that i can sell for 86k at 39 months, and then to buy the "fresh" batch it costs me 93k. Is the idea to buy the younger cows and then raise them? That doesn't seem worth doing given they won't produce milk while consuming food for more than a year. What is the idea behind selling cows at 27?

@HucklberyTaz

8 ай бұрын

Thats starting with newborn... selling after they calve gives you a free set of cows. Milk priority I would start with older cows on TMR, you will instantly start production.

All very interesting and much appreciated. I'm sure that you must know that the Karma !6 Feed mod will give you 100,000 litres of TMR for a mere 4500 $ or so. I personally use this method. Is this considered cheating?

Welp, guess im going to be a cowboy now

Ok So if you want cows to be born and milk, use tmr and only hay for the sales

Hey nice video, but the cows dose produce 20% milk if given tmr. Did you facture that in the calculations. It ses 100% efficiency but that isn't what is in the true output.

@FarmerCop

7 ай бұрын

Yes that is factored in. If you look at my data it shows cows on hay produce less milk

What if you feed with just silage?

@FarmerCop

8 ай бұрын

It will just go into the hay category

What if I have too much sugar cane and they want it?

@BozidarMarkovic-wq3sh

8 ай бұрын

Uuh give them a little bit 😅

Less I missed something you have started with newborns ... with that said I believe the results would be slightly different starting with productive cows. ???

@FarmerCop

8 ай бұрын

The results would be slightly different but the only thing you would save on is time before they start producing, overall profit will still be almost the same

@HucklberyTaz

8 ай бұрын

@@FarmerCop Fair enough, however, time is money lol. You can buy Beef stock at 12m feed them TMR and sell the next day at a profit. (Assuming take all free ingredients to make feed.) Plus their fertilizer.

Has anyone experienced animals dying or producing less with old age?

also the the price of the cow is tied to health x age. So if you feed grass from 0 to 25 and then feed them TMR or hay on that day then the next day they will have 100% health and sell for the same amount they would if you had fed TMR from birth..... ITS BROKEN.

@FarmerCop

7 ай бұрын

Its not broken, it works fine if you raise cows like your supposed to do lol

Im only in it for the trophy 🏆 not the money