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Court orders Florida man to continue paying child support for child that's not his
Florida Dept. of Revenue successfully filed an appeal to a court order making Joseph Sinawah of Jacksonville continue paying child support for a child that's not his
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If a man isn’t the father he shouldn’t have to pay money
@primalwerewolf9356
4 жыл бұрын
exactly
@kazi1
4 жыл бұрын
Ye
@claysinacori7347
3 жыл бұрын
That woman doesn't give a shitt she's getting a f****** money still she hasn't come on TV or did an interview she's getting that money that she supposed to lay in the f*** back
@DanielPerez-oc8qs
3 жыл бұрын
And the question is Where the child father is? Making more kids so another guy pay for his child support. And stupid system can let him get away with it. Common sense. Not your kid not your responsability. She may not even know who the father is.
@Will.Flavell
Жыл бұрын
Well he wanted to be with that woman.
Sue the IRS.. When in court they say "This isnt about you, child needs to be supported".. tell them "great, you pay it then".
@xijinping3317
3 жыл бұрын
That costs money most men don't have
@russellleblanc1539
3 жыл бұрын
@@xijinping3317 depending on how good the case is some lawyers will take your case for for free (exposure) or a percentage of your pay AFTER you win.
@Elijah1916_myhighway
3 жыл бұрын
Exactly. They likely make more money than we do anyway.
@MrSmith-on1qz
2 жыл бұрын
I don’t know why you would sue the IRS. They don’t have anything to do with it. You would have to take it to family court and then the man will surely lose.
@miguelbermudez5426
2 жыл бұрын
@@russellleblanc1539 happened to me: my ex wife cheated and got pregnant by another man. Court ordered DNAtest proved it wasn't mine as I refused to sign it anyway. Not only did i serve her with divorce papers afterward but the judge (female) had the nerve to tell me "Your wife and child need your support, shame on you for abandoning them." Idgaf but I did tell the guy's wife and she cleaned him out in the divorce after I sued him for breach of contract.
Just remember, a government powerful enough to give you anything is powerful enough to take everything away.
@EddieLeal
3 жыл бұрын
Sad but true. Careful what rights you give up for the sake of "safety"
@ianbattles7290
Жыл бұрын
@@EddieLeal "Those who would give up liberty to gain safety will lose both and gain neither."
"$83/week... a 1/3rd of my paycheck." Geez, thish guy had nothing and they were still bleeding him dry.
@elchingon6759
3 жыл бұрын
If he was down to his last dollar, they’d take 50 cents from him. They don’t care about him.
@ianbattles7290
Жыл бұрын
@@elchingon6759 If he had a penny left, they'd cut it in half
If the DNA test proves that he is NOT the father, then he should not have to pay, whether he has signed the birth certificate or not. The child's natural father should be informed and held accountable for the child.. If problems such as this continues, DNA testing will be required when every child is born. That way everyone will know who's the Baby Daddy...
@emilyrose9854
3 жыл бұрын
They actually have something referred to as the cuckoo birds law not the actual name just people who really f****** hate it and it's in different parts of the world especially here in America and Canada basically it says that the biological father can be present but can revoke his parental rights mainly being financial responsibility especially if the mother allows it which means the biological father can be sitting there playing house with the baby mama while the guy she lied to is forced to pay child support it's so insane men on incel group forums which who is ever going to listen to people like them and others can't think of all their names do highly suggest that men get paternity test before putting their name on the certification which is honestly solid advice but here's the problem cuz no system supports it basically if the baby is still in the womb you're going to have to ask the mother and if she's trying to hide this to benefit from it she's going to deny it and she has the right not to go through a paternity test and withhold the baby same situation if after the baby is born you tried to sneak one I mean you can do so without her knowledge but if she's insistent that you sign that birth certificate before you even get to hold the kid she's basically holding a Schrodinger prize you don't know if this child is yours without getting the test but you can't get the test done without being able to have the baby because the mother again is holding it hostage threatening that if you do take a paternity test no matter what the outcome is you're never going to see the child because you didn't put your name on the birth certificate and honestly nobody wants to go through Court proceedings
@EddieLeal
3 жыл бұрын
I'd sell what ever I could to hire a private investigator and find the real father and get his name blasted all over social media.
@sj122s
3 жыл бұрын
@@EddieLeal A lot of men would.
@silverblade357
3 жыл бұрын
@@EddieLeal The sad fact is that the birth certificate is also a legal document. You put your name on it, you are declaring that the child is your responsibility. In several states, getting removed as a parent or guardian is a legal nightmare, seemingly by design.
@danielstarr8957
3 жыл бұрын
Paternity test should be automatically done upon birth for every child.
These laws would change OVERNIGHT if these judges started being named as the father on the birth certificate...
Courts are getting even lazier. "It doesn't matter this isn't yours, some one has to pay for it."
@FishFreddy
Жыл бұрын
Courts will say "In the best interest of the child" not the best interest for a man who isn't the father and doesn't want anything to do with the child. Just a male ATM. A free ATM is in the best interest of the child and of the state. They don't care the man has to suffer financial losses and gets hurt emotionally.
MGTOW!
@TheRealWorldNews247
4 жыл бұрын
Yeap
@mikec360
3 жыл бұрын
All day
@mrmightyz6501
3 жыл бұрын
Yes sir
@dsmksmk4715
3 жыл бұрын
all the way .and everyday ..# redpill
I'm going through the same thing in Hillsborough county FL, contacted news outlets. I didn't get none of this attention.
@dsmksmk4715
3 жыл бұрын
feel sorry for you bro
@nordicwarrior2176
3 жыл бұрын
Well imagine alot of desperate man are also calling for help. You're not the only one.
@Scratchingforcash
3 жыл бұрын
Take your DNA test and child support receipts with you as proof.
The judge followed the law. But, what does that tell you about the law? What is legal is not always moral, logical, or ethical.
@jeremydunn9978
2 жыл бұрын
But if your married and your wife bangs another dude haha guess what your liable. That is messed up
@yungblod8975
2 жыл бұрын
When tyranny becomes law it's our responsibility as citizens to fight back
@ianbattles7290
Жыл бұрын
@@jeremydunn9978 At that point id apply for asylum in a different country on the basis of political persecution.
@NSUScooter
Жыл бұрын
What law is that?
@mikel9735
Жыл бұрын
@@NSUScooter Florida state laws pertaining to the establishment of paternity and the presumptions of paternity. In addition, you then also have to consider the family rules of procedure under the State of Floridal. Furthermore, there are provisions for disestablishment of paternity, but that can be quite complicated as well because it often depends on the willingness of the other legal parent and the other prospective father assuming the petitioner can even find that person to provide notice to appear at a hearing on the matter. But, since you seem to be so curious I can get a little bit more specific for you so you can go on and do further research to satiate your curiosity. Chapters 742(Determination of Parentage), 63 (family law), and 39 (child welfare/juvenile dependency) statutes all have provisions dealing with the substantive law governing establishment of paternity. Now again, because you asked and I am sure you really want to know you also have to consider the Florida rules of Juvenile procedure as well as the Florida family law rules of procedure. Of course, that will depend in which forum such a matter is addressed. And, just so I don't leave this out, you also have child support cases which are governed by the department of revenue in the State of Florida. According to this video, it would appear that this matter was dealt with in a family Law Court. So, they would have relied on chapter 63, potentially chapter 742, and the Corollary Florida's family law rules of procedure. Thank you for asking.
Courts do this with "The best interest of the child". You can't make random men responsible for a child which isn't theirs. Only two ways: 1) They are the biological father and need to take responsibility. 2) They aren't the biological father and choose to take custody and responsibility. Besides that, no responsibility.
Women can be such monsters sometimes. Ruining a man's life and don't even care.
I would not pay a penny of child support for a kid that wasn’t mine. Good luck to anyone willing to waste their time and money trying to get me to pay.
I think I'd just move abroad and start over if the alternative was giving a third of my earning for 18 years.
@fhenlizhao5406
2 жыл бұрын
Best alternative but they try to make you a fugitive for not giving in.
@ianbattles7290
Жыл бұрын
@@fhenlizhao5406 I would apply for asylum in a different country on the basis that my government is trying to enforce a false reality.
I Warn all the young men in the family to please never sign a birth certicate until after the DNA Test! And considering these days! Get it before anything else even if it has to be done behind their backs! If not and the courts get into place then life will be hell! For sure!
She should return the money
Someone start a patreon for this man
@EddieLeal
3 жыл бұрын
He should have done that from the get go. Have to put the pride aside and get your life back.
Actually this is a common problem. Child Support has nothing in common with the mother or child. Its simply a debt that must be paid by someone.
@welovemarbles7191
3 жыл бұрын
Make the mother pay it then. She created the child too
@ChildSupportMadeSimple
3 жыл бұрын
@@welovemarbles7191 The statute was not designed for mothers (1975).
@ChildSupportMadeSimple
3 жыл бұрын
@@welovemarbles7191 The child support program was designed with mothers and children.
@henrypeterson7411
3 ай бұрын
It’s because the state doesn’t want to work to find the actual father
@SandTguy
3 ай бұрын
@@ChildSupportMadeSimplewell isn’t that convenient.
Its a society in decline.
@ammalessingtaweesak4316
2 жыл бұрын
Why this happen in America ...from Culture or Rise of Feminism ?
@Will.Flavell
Жыл бұрын
No wonder why there’s American men looking for women in Asia, Eastern Europe or Latin America they must be fed up with feminism and the discrimination against good honest hardworking men.
@TheWinterShadow
Жыл бұрын
@@ammalessingtaweesak4316 Both
Twist: state DOR doesn't forward the money to the mother but keeps it instead
Courts:"Hey you!! You have enough cash in your bank account, pay us the child support or go to jail."
@atiashaunbaker3792
2 жыл бұрын
Hey you !! 😂😂😂😂😂. Your the chosen one .... Now run us your pockets
The system is so screwed up, did this man ever get justice?
When you have to paying for someone else Netflix account.
@atiashaunbaker3792
2 жыл бұрын
Yeah a when you prove you dont watch Netflix and they say screw you, pay anyway
You will notice very few women are posting comments here in support of the vast majority of the men here who are collectively in agreement about the Judical bias against fathers in the family courts. Doesn't that just prove alone that the vast majority of women are in favor of this discrimination against fathers of children in broken relationships because it works better for them than it does for the fathers of their children ?
@ianbattles7290
Жыл бұрын
Yeah why aren't there any feminists getting angry about this case?
@Mushroomgurl90
2 ай бұрын
@@ianbattles7290because feminists are not for men, however, I'm a woman, NOT a feminist and I totally support doing away with child support. I do not find it okay that a woman can decide she doesn't want a child, have an abortion but when the father doesn't want the child, mainly to avoid dealing with a toxic ex, they are forced to pay. This is definitely not fair.
Child support as a whole should be outlawed. Maybe then people will be more responsible about who they have kids with. And if people really need help, find a church or a charity.
@atiashaunbaker3792
2 жыл бұрын
In theory you are correct . but, child support is a multi million dollar a year racket that lines the pockets of many gov employees including judges . and abolishing child support means overloading the welfare system. So I doubt child support goes away any time soon.
he should sue the lady
@ianbattles7290
Жыл бұрын
He should sue the baby.
Imagine this, Man A and woman A love each other and want to get married and have a life, but they realize they don’t have enough money for a child. Woman A has a plan to seduce, deceive and make man B to marry her (since he has much higher income). They get married and then she goes ahead and have a child with man A (her true love). Even if man B divorced her before the child was born or after realizing the child was not his, he is still responsible and will be forced to pay child support. Man A and Woman A can continue their life with their child knowing that Man B will pay child support which will be based on his income (which is higher than theirs). So man A and woman A are very happy living together. Is that how it works now?
Another example of why I will never be with a woman again. Ever. Nope never
this is why we have hitmen
How about we get rid of child support and let these independent women raise the kids on there own like they deserve.😂
What happened to equality? Where the feminists? Weren’t they supporting equality? 🤦♂️
When the law is useless and won't help you, you have no choice but to call the news and put some light on this ugly mess.
Omg. This is ridicilous.
They should made New laws that protects men from paternity fraud 💯
WTAF how can the IRS do this what the hell do they get off.
So it's the real child's father duty to pay back ....
@ianbattles7290
Жыл бұрын
Yeah, why isn't the ACTUAL father being held liable? Why does HE get to skip out on HIS legal responsibility?
why don't that lawyer do freebona to help that man since he know whats wrong. u guess thats asking to much huh
With teeth like that I would have threw the case out of sympathy.
@bobi966
4 жыл бұрын
Whats wrong with his teeth?
@setalight7290
4 жыл бұрын
@@bobi966 lol you joking right?
@kazi1
4 жыл бұрын
Lol
@benstandard
3 жыл бұрын
lol
Jeez that dude is broke AF if 83 bucks is a third of his pay. I blow more than that washing my cars in a month.
The government waste money left and right but would rather hang the bill for a child around the neck of a man who isn't even the father because they don't want to pay benefits out to the mom.
Where is human right group when you need them? These men have no human right. They need to pay for a child that is not their. They need justice. Can't believed nobody speak out against these type of laws.
@andersrobertsen7610
Жыл бұрын
Because they're men. The patriarchy sides with women
These laws that allow this, is like being illegally tax
Wrong on so many levels I would just go to jail & never pay a single dime & fight this every step of the way till the law is changed
I thought this was Michigan at first
Never sign the birth certificate
I am going through the same thing,i sgned the birth certificate thinking the child was mine and after i got a DNA test found out that i was 99.9% not the childs father.I am still paying and am behind 60 grand for a child that the state knows isn't mine.
Why?
Looks like signing the birth certificate seals the deal....best to always get a DNA test before doing so, unless the child is your clone.
The mother should give back the money every time she receives it.
@michaelvandyke6715
2 жыл бұрын
Hahahaha, that will never happen....
That goes to show you its not for kids its for the state
Somebody would get hurt... don't know who... but definitely not taking that shit
@KJisonit
Жыл бұрын
Love this statement
Time to sell everything... And leave the country.... Good luck my guy...
This is just sexism 🤦♂️
Let the poor man off the hook so he can save some money to fix his damn teeth. DNA results clearly show the child is NOT his, but his teeth are rotting your honor!
Airplane tickets are much cheaper
Im sorry im going to jail. Im not paying a dime.
Honesty I would've just moved abroad if I was in his shoes
I almost felt bad for the dude...until he said he signed a birth certificate before he had a paternity test. No sympathy now. Hope he learned his lesson for next time.
@georgemendez6760
3 жыл бұрын
if he does that he risks ruining the relationship. it's sometimes best to sign it then do the dna test later in secret.... why should only the mother be able to sign the birth certificate at birth? it should be both!
@benstandard
3 жыл бұрын
@@georgemendez6760 because if you sign it first you're liable to pay child support. that's why you don't sign it first. if these ppl look down on you for protecting yourself then they're not worth having in your life anyhow. if these men don't look out for their own better good then no one else will.
@georgemendez6760
3 жыл бұрын
@@benstandard if you ask me it's best to sign and just do it later, putting myself in the girls shoes i'd feel heavily betrayed if my guy didn't sign so i wouldn't want her to feel that way.... if it turns out that it's not my kid then it's easy to say that i was lied and tricked into signing it and i'll probably even go as far as saying that i wasn't the one who signed it and that it's forged.... if one party already lied i guess it's only fair if both lie.... either way, i wouldn't be held responsible for the child support if i do things accordingly
83 bucks is a third of your pay? You need to make more money
That's not right
How would she feel it happened to her son?
I hope that lady gives the money back to him, ha! So wrong.
I mean $83/week isn't even enough to do anything with. He signed the birth certificate but he's still a total bum. Take him off the child support, he can barely care for himself!!
Where is the men Rights?
Women should go to prison for this
Welcome to the risks of living as a man in America
This is just evil it is not his son this why men don't get married
This must be another example of male privilege
What happened to this guy? Hope he got to stop paying and got that money to fix his teeth
Let this poor man off the hook. I hope they stopped the child support for him
I would be pissed!!
Louisiana is very very very bad about doing that ,monroe ,,west monroe
He looks like Lucky from King of the Hill.
They don't care! Your name is on the bc, that's all they need to get you to pay cs.... Been there done that, over $23,000 paid out!!
Sickening
Messed up system.
UNCONSTITUTIONAL
Just who is responsible for a man that isn't the father to pay child support for a child that isn't his, that is why DNA testing should be mandatory for all child births to prove that whoever is the rightful father has to pay.
I’ll be mad asf couldn’t be me
Young men need to be taught in school: if a woman claims she's pregnant with your child, assure her that pending A DEFINITIVE ESTABLISHMENT OF PATERNITY VIA DNA TESTING you will abide by whatever child support agreement is reached, and that you are immediately ending all direct communications with her and she is henceforth to communicate with you through your attorney. Do this and there's a 80% chance you'll never hear another thing from her.
Bruh that’s not fair they can’t do that
Oh the privilege ls men have ...
In cases such as this, the state mantra is that it’s not so much about fairness, but the child’s welfare which is paramount. This being the case, I’ve wondered why not dun the child’s biological grandparents, aunts, uncles, adult brothers and sisters, first cousins etc for a percentage? After all, they actually _do_ share the child’s DNA, in the case of full brothers and sisters up to 61%, with an average of 50% (average percentage shared DNA for: biological aunts, uncles and grandparents 25%, first cousins 12.5%), and it therefore the child’s well being _does,_ in effect, contribute to their posterity (unlike "not the father" who, having no biological investment, can receive zero biological/evolutionary return). In nature crows and many other species share responsibility for offspring with whom they share DNA. IMO, following this example would seem more logical than sticking some poor cuckolded schmuck with the responsibility. And, after all, it is "all about the child".
@retiredtidepodeater3339
3 жыл бұрын
Doesn't work that way. Regardless of the DNA shared, said relatives are 0% responsible for the creation of that child.
@bentaylor6995
2 жыл бұрын
@@retiredtidepodeater3339 This dude in the video is 0% responsible too he still has to pay
Modern day slavery
The mother is a coward .
We live in barbaric times.
I hope he won't commit suicide like the others.
So who are the father of these children... Women
Jennifer Brooke Reynolds
LOL Troll is a crazy narcissist thats here to amuse us. for everyone troll we have 1000's of supporters . Trolls are easy to block, LOL
Wtf man
Man I really hope this guy doesn't pay cuz seems like they might be trying to set a precedent n if this dude pays then parents and companies will be able to say look see it's not as bat shit insane as it sounds and u think cuz some judge already ordered it before and the dude paid it and shit... I think he needs to use all the money he was supposed to pay in child support and use it on a lawyer and I hope he sues the mom and gets he's money back and then some for all the emotional trauma of raising and loving a child and then have all that stripped away cuz some dumb chick he lost he's family found out there not even really family so he will probably never get to see he's child again and even though it's not he's I know he has to love the child and be devastated that not just the mom left with the kid or anything he got the kick in the nuts while down... Emotional fraud is way more devastating than financial fraud to most sane humans... This shits wild I don't even care so much about the money cuz I know me and any sane lawyer would get out of it or in no trouble for paying it like a normal parent...
Sad that even gay men are not safe from being named father by default to pay child support.
I'm just saying if the child is no longer alive then you ain't got to pay child support I'm just saying.. and it's all the Court's fault
Women continue to prove that they ain’t shT
Reason I never sign to tht DNA
@charlesliles5816
2 жыл бұрын
I never took a DNA test and they made me the father. No signed birth certificate or nothing. Been taking child support out of my check for 6 years now. I have 3 children that I pay support on. 2 in NC and 1 in Florida. The one in Florida just raised my support to 650 a month. I was already paying $1044 a month. They had a hearing while I was incarcerated and have denied me a new hearing. I support 2 small children in the home with me and I'm married. I can't afford $1500 a month. Can't get help out of nobody.
I remember this same BS 30 years ago. A man forced to pay child support for a kid that isn't his even the kid ??😮. Who is he ? He is not my Dad the poor guy who is forced to pay ? His piece of shit Lawyer said " I am not going to do anything about this garnishment. It's just garbage. I seen another one where this Dame was expecting a child put another man's name on the birth certificate and the kid isn't his forced to pay child support. Stupid Dame ,. That's pretty shitty of that BS
Show us the B
Ion gonna lie. He did sign the birth certificate
I feel bad for the child being dragged into it the child didn't ask to exist in this manner😢